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Intel Prototypes World's Thinnest Laptop

aalobode sends us to an article up at BusinessWeek about Intel's design for a new, ultra-thin laptop — almost as thin as a Razr — designed as a fashion accessory. Intel hopes to get the high end of the laptop market growing faster, and so they are particularly targeting female consumers with the new model. It's unlikely that all of the advanced features in this prototype will make it into products, and if they did the resulting laptops would command a daunting price. One feature we can hope makes the cut is built-in cellular Internet access. From the article: "The result, code-named Intel mobile Metro notebook, is less than 0.7 inches thick — about one-quarter of an inch thicker than Motorola's iconic cell phone, making it the world's thinnest notebook. And at 2.25 pounds, it's also one of the lightest small-sized portable computers. Other features include always-on Internet connectivity via various wireless technologies."

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  1. Photos by Bananatree3 · · Score: 4, Informative
    1. Re:Photos by Fx.Dr · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Setting a tiny notebook against a tiny Asian woman kind of negates the 'WOW factor' of such a slim notebook. I would have suggested having Ving Rhames hold it, but that's just me.

    2. Re:Photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, doesn't really capture the scale. I bought one of these, but I set it down at the wrong angle and now I can't find it...

    3. Re:Photos by curtisk · · Score: 2, Informative

      Heres a set of images from the actual article... http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/05/0524_metro laptop/index_01.htm

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    4. Re:Photos by kurokaze · · Score: 2, Insightful

      huh? there was a laptop in that pic? all I saw was the girl :P

    5. Re:Photos by MrNonchalant · · Score: 3, Informative
    6. Re:Photos by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 5, Insightful

      They're making a big mistake if they market it too hard toward women.

      You really don't have to try that hard, chicks love laptops, and if it's thin, light, and looks decent, they'll snap them up by the dozen. The problem is, there's plenty of dudes out there that won't be able to handle that it's marketed toward women--never mind the 2 1/4lb weight, built-in bluetooth + wi-max + 802.11 + EVDO, and 14-hour battery life--if you buy it, you're gay.

      Of course, the only thing they'd have to change is make another cover for it that looks like a wallet instead of a purse and not mention that it's "for women" (what, does it latch on the right or something? keyboard designed for a longer index finger? breast rests?) and they could sell to everyone. Then again, I imagine it'll end up like the Mustang.

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    7. Re:Photos by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      That and its with while a technical achevemet isn't much in the wow field for people. A MacBook Pro is 1" thick and this is .7" Thick. While I am sure it is really tough to get it down to that size it doesn't seem ultra thin. Espectilly comparing an open Laptop to a closed Rasor. The MacBook Pro Open is as thick as a samsung sync closed. While it is thinner not much a wow that is thing. Unless you work normally with Dells.

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    8. Re:Photos by Kijori · · Score: 1

      Unless she's actually a very large Asian woman and it's a clever trick!

    9. Re:Photos by OglinTatas · · Score: 2, Funny

      those weren't "breast rests" in the original mustang, those were "cup holders"

    10. Re:Photos by maxume · · Score: 1

      It's a prototype. They are saying to manufacturers: look what you can do with our stuff. I'm sure someone or another while release one that is charcoal black or whatever.

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    11. Re:Photos by syzler · · Score: 1, Funny

      Where can you buy a tiny asian woman? I've been in the market to find one for a while now.

    12. Re:Photos by exley · · Score: 1

      I would have suggested putting her in one of those sailor school uniforms, and then I probably would have pre-ordered five of those laptops by now. But that's just me.

    13. Re:Photos by Idbar · · Score: 1

      The keys themselves are marked in a futuristic orange font


      Wow! And just when I thought my amber monochromatic monitor was outdated and threw it, it turns out is now a "futuristic" color.

      Anyway, pictures only of one side, with only one usb port. I'm wondering what does it come with on the right hand side.
    14. Re:Photos by Not-a-Neg · · Score: 1

      I particularly like the curvature of the strap. ;)

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    15. Re:Photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yup, and if it's marketed for women, it'll cost 25% more to fix.

    16. Re:Photos by jmoriarty · · Score: 1

      Setting a tiny notebook against a tiny Asian woman kind of negates the 'WOW factor' of such a slim notebook. I would have suggested having Ving Rhames hold it, but that's just me. Ving Rhames rather than the ladies pictured? Dude, that's not only "just you", but you might want to get your own self out of there. That subset of the human population should have a membership of zero.

    17. Re:Photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      elaborate (link) to what you mean about the mustang that you compare.

    18. Re:Photos by BigDogCH · · Score: 1

      Asia

    19. Re:Photos by Nullav · · Score: 1

      As far as I'm concerned, they should at least make a thicker, heavier version to release with this one. 2.5lbs. is a bit too light in my opinion. With the keys set even closer, I'd end up pushing the keyboard down on one side (They're called laptops, remember?).
      I'm also concerned about the durability of something that thin (at least while that wide, as well) - I don't want to snap the damn thing when it hits the ground after I flip it off of my legs by hitting tab.

      I'm even more concerned about the 'exposed' screen. Without any real frame around the screen, it'll be much easier to scratch and even crack.

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    20. Re:Photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey. no jokes about small asian women you insensitive clod. I'm married to a asian woman but she is not small.
      I don't think any man will be caught dead with that cover and strap. However this laptop is creating another trend like the Apple PowerBook G4 Titanium which was cutting edge that was one inch thick and made of gray metal. This would be great size for an traveler which size is important.
      I wonder how long does it last on batteries.

    21. Re:Photos by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, I kinda don't want to buy anything from Intel at the moment, for some reason.

    22. Re:Photos by mythar · · Score: 1

      wow, how very chic. purse-snatchers rejoice.

    23. Re:Photos by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      When the Mustang was first designed, it was intended for the new professional women that were coming around. The younger ones, specifically mentioned were secretaries, with new money. So, it was a fairly inexpensive car, fast enough to be interesting, but proportioned (pedals, smaller seats, etc.) for women. Of course, it turned out to be a really good car, and all the marketing in the world didn't stop guys from buying it. Of course, with that, the car got muscled up, eventually got a V8, and I'm sure you know the rest.

      I looked it up on Wikipedia but there's no mention of that, I remember I saw it on a Discovery Channel thing about the Mustang. Unfortunately what I've put here is about the limit of my knowledge so I can't update Wiki.

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  2. finally ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    something with less girth than me ! I no longer feel inadequate.

    1. Re:finally ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      awesome that you were modded informative but too much information

    2. Re:finally ! by Boarder2 · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately for you, with a 14 hour battery it'll last more than 2 seconds.

    3. Re:finally ! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      AHHHHHhh I also laughed at the informative moderation, the moderation itself was the funny part.

  3. 14 HOURS! by AKAImBatman · · Score: 5, Interesting
    Being super slim is a nice feature in of itself, but then I saw this (emphasis mine):

    Using flash memory in place of the standard hard-disk drive, Ziba and Intel have managed to make this laptop just 0.7 inches thick. The use of flash resulted in a side benefit: the laptop consumes less power and offers up to 14 hours of battery life. At 2.25 pounds, it's also among the lightest notebooks around.

    WOW. Can you imagine having a laptop with 14 hours of battery life? You could pretty much work on it all day, then charge it while you're sleeping at night. Assuming, of course, that the figures aren't overinflated estimations. Still...

    One thing I'm disappointed by is the lack of any sort of specs. (Or am I just blind?) What kind of processor, how much memory, how much flash disk, and what kind of graphics card this thing has are all factors that would figure into purchasing this or not. For my own needs, I think the size of the flashdisk would be the biggest factor.

    I'm not so keen on the purse idea. While it might appeal to some women, I have a suspicion that it would be at risk of theft at all times. Better to use a more nondescript bag than a fancy cover with an external screen that shouts, "Steal me! I'm expensive!"
    1. Re:14 HOURS! by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      I'd buy it if it even had half that battery life. I've seen too many laptops who's battery life is 3 hours. That's when it ships. after 6-12 months of usage they drop to 2-2.5 hours. Try getting through a 3 hour lecture with that. I used to laugh at the kids in university who would scramble for a seat near a power outlet just so they could make it through the lecture without their battery dying. I'd rather just use a pen and paper at that point. Myself I used a palm pilot with a folding keyboard. That thing had great battery life.

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    2. Re:14 HOURS! by jfengel · · Score: 1

      I wonder if that's because of the e-ink display. A display that uses the ambient light rather than requiring a back light can save a lot of power.

      But (at least in the present state of technology) it's probably a crummy video game machine. (In fact, as far as I'm aware, that technology doesn't yet refresh fast enough to play movies properly.)

    3. Re:14 HOURS! by IAstudent · · Score: 1

      It sounds like a lot of battery life, but that's where the "always-on" internet connectivity feature concerns me. Ignoring security concerns, wouldn't having the wifi/cellular signals on all the time reduce battery life? If 14 hours is the life in always-on mode, then maybe battery life won't be that much of a concern. I'd still like to see a way to manually turn wifi on/off on the unit, though.

    4. Re:14 HOURS! by mhall119 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Only the optional "folio" cover uses eInk, the main screen would be a more or less typical laptop screen, though the screen itself extends to the edge of the laptop, there is no plastic "frame" around it like most laptops have.

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    5. Re:14 HOURS! by Mockylock · · Score: 1

      I hope it has a titanium frame... my dumbass would break it in half in a day.

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    6. Re:14 HOURS! by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 5, Funny

      my dumbass would break it in half in a day.

      That's a horrible way to refer to your wife.

    7. Re:14 HOURS! by Mockylock · · Score: 4, Funny

      True, but you don't know my wife.

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    8. Re:14 HOURS! by Lost+Engineer · · Score: 1

      They're making that up. Also, you know the 3 hour laptop shipped with a label that said up to 5 hours.

      Sure, 14 hours... in sleep mode. Certainly not with the integrated wireless on.

    9. Re:14 HOURS! by LiquidCoooled · · Score: 1

      Does it really cost that much energy to listen to radio signals?
      There is a difference between always on and always busy.

      My phone has 3g always on but it doesn't drain my battery much until I start connecting and actually using it.

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  4. ...and of course by JustNiz · · Score: 3, Funny

    they'll release a new model soon that will cost $200 more just because its pink.

    1. Re:...and of course by Timesprout · · Score: 5, Funny

      I am not paying $200 more just because it's pink, now OTOH if they put ponies on it..

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    2. Re:...and of course by Idbar · · Score: 1

      Maybe you can get for $200, another armstrap and use it as a backpack. So people no longer need to use paper to put a "Kick my a**" but use the E-ink! Let's go green!

  5. Neat by tsa · · Score: 3, Insightful

    That is a beautiful laptop. And apart from the Macs, there aren't many beautiful laptops out there IMO. If I were Intel I would lose the screen on the outside. Though it raises the WOW factor a whole lot, it's not practical when traveling, especially if you carry the laptop around like it's a purse as shown on the first picture.

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    1. Re:Neat by garcia · · Score: 1

      That is a beautiful laptop.

      It's "beautiful" if you like wearing what appears to be a woman's handbag over your shoulder. I don't care for the way it looks at all. I want something that 2.25 lbs and connects to wireless networks that doesn't make me look like I'm utilizing a fashion accessory.

      Perhaps they should just sell it like every other laptop except tout its ~14 hour battery life, weight, and thickness.

      The unit's primarily designed for entirely wireless communications with reconfigurable antennae able to switch between the Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and WiMAX links the laptop's envisaged to maintain.

      WiMAX? What about E/GPRS? That would encompass a lot more coverage area than the ill-fated WiMAX.

    2. Re:Neat by ptbarnett · · Score: 4, Informative
      If I were Intel I would lose the screen on the outside.

      If you were to RTFA, you'd discover that the screen on the outside isn't actually on the laptop. It's on the folio case that wraps around the laptop.

      The case also functions as the battery charger, although the contact is wireless.

    3. Re:Neat by ptbarnett · · Score: 1
      What about E/GPRS? That would encompass a lot more coverage area than the ill-fated WiMAX.

      Does anyone bother to RTFA?

      This model's embedded chips let users access cellular, Wi-Fi, or WiMax wireless broadband networks. (Intel is expected to release embeddable chips that access all these networks in late 2007, early 2008.)

      Embedded cellular connectivity could change the way laptops are sold. In the U.S., cellular network technology varies by carrier. So PC manufacturers might have to start selling special adapter cards, such as the Subscriber Identity Module (SIM) cards used by some carriers in Europe. Or the laptops may need to be marketed through the service provider for whose network they are designed.

    4. Re:Neat by hunterkll · · Score: 1

      GSM carriers in america use SIM cards too, you know. Unless that card in my phone isn't, then... well, what is it? :)

    5. Re:Neat by tsa · · Score: 1

      OK you got me there, but the reason why they should lose the screen are unchanged. It will get damaged during travelling.

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    6. Re:Neat by el+americano · · Score: 1

      It doesn't look like a purse without the carrying case:
      http://images.businessweek.com/ss/07/05/0524_metro laptop/image/slide4.jpg

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    7. Re:Neat by swillden · · Score: 1

      OK you got me there, but the reason why they should lose the screen are unchanged. It will get damaged during travelling.

      You think? That e-ink stuff is supposed to be pretty tough, and it flexes so it shouldn't crack like an LCD would. I suppose it might get scratched, which would be unfortunate.

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  6. Strange parallel universe by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 5, Funny

    Anyone else here remember when it was social suicide to even admit you knew how to turn on a computer, let alone use one? Now they come in pink, with armstraps. Somewhere along the line I have slipped into a strange parallel universe. If anyone from my homeworld can read this, please send help.

    1. Re:Strange parallel universe by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

      My kinsman! I fear our homeworld has been destroyed. We are the last of our kind. Fear not however, as our ability to resist wedgies gives us super strength, the ability to fly, X-ray vision and assorted other super powers while on this planet. We should wear red underpants on the outside of our clothes to indicate to all the fact that we are impervious to wedgies.

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    2. Re:Strange parallel universe by j00r0m4nc3r · · Score: 4, Funny

      We should wear red underpants on the outside of our clothes

      Huh? Is there any other way to wear them?

    3. Re:Strange parallel universe by MrNaz · · Score: 5, Funny

      Not for us, my interstellar superpowered friend.

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    4. Re:Strange parallel universe by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some said pink? http://www.cynical-c.com/archives/bloggraphics/hko pen.jpg (when greeted with Error 500, click in the URL bar and just hit enter again.)

    5. Re:Strange parallel universe by bogomipz · · Score: 1

      No, nobody from your homeworld can read this, they don't even know how to turn on a computer, remember?

    6. Re:Strange parallel universe by Garabito · · Score: 3, Funny

      If anyone from my homeworld can read this, please send help

      Are you sure you want to go back there?

    7. Re:Strange parallel universe by dgbrownnt · · Score: 1

      It makes perfect sense! This is why kryptonite ended up being white and pasty...

    8. Re:Strange parallel universe by BosstonesOwn · · Score: 0

      So every slashdotter can be used as kryptonite ?

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  7. For the ladies? by robbkidd · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'll get tarted up if it means I can have one.

    1. Re:For the ladies? by tknd · · Score: 1

      When I was in lecture some years ago, there was a girl in the row in front of me with a really small bag for a "backpack". In it she had notebooks and pens/pencils. However, later in the lecture, she pulled out an ultra slim toshiba portege laptop that was literally the size of a spiral notebook. Though it was running win2k at the time, I was still impressed and immediately wished I had one.

      One of the problems then with ultra portables or ultra thin laptops was the optical drive and no good form of external storage. These days everything is networked and there a tons of lightweight options for external storage (flash media). In fact, I only use the optical drive as a form of backup, not as a way of transferring data since a usb stick or a network connection is much more convenient.

      So if the price is right, I'd buy one too even if it was marketed for girls.

    2. Re:For the ladies? by PatrickThomson · · Score: 5, Funny

      I want a tiny laptop to compensate for my gigantic penis.

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    3. Re:For the ladies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't you mean you want a thin laptop to compensate for your ultra-thick penis?

    4. Re:For the ladies? by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      I want a tiny laptop to compensate for my gigantic penis. Um... *stops looking at 14 lb. laptops*
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  8. Ergonomics by suv4x4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Intel's design for a new, ultra-thin laptop -- almost as thin as a Razr

    And just like like the Razr, the keyboard is flat. And just UNlike the Razr, you'll want to type a lot on this thing, and the flat keyboard will make it a very bad experience.

    I hope the other benefits of the technology (flash drive, 14 hours online battery life), carry on to "thicker" laptops.

    1. Re:Ergonomics by tsa · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have never come across a laptop with a good keyboard. Portability of a laptop comes at a high price. You lose a good screen, good keyboard, good video card... the list goes on. If you want an ergonomic computer, buy a desktop.

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    2. Re:Ergonomics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ..or get an external keyboard.

    3. Re:Ergonomics by MrNaz · · Score: 1

      My laptop is not thick, it is mentally challenged you insensitive clod!

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    4. Re:Ergonomics by LizardKing · · Score: 1

      Nicest laptop keyboards I've ever used are on an RDI Powerlite and older models of Tadpole SPARCBooks. They're actually better than most dekstop PC keyboards that I've used. Shame that my Powerlite only has a 50Mhz processor and is so heavy that your legs go numb after ten minutes of having it on your lap.

    5. Re:Ergonomics by AP2k · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I hope the other benefits of the technology (flash drive, 14 hours online battery life), carry on to "thicker" laptops. Naa, you can keep your flash drives. I actually like having my hard drive die in several years instead of several dozen thousand read/write cycles.

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    6. Re:Ergonomics by suv4x4 · · Score: 1

      I have never come across a laptop with a good keyboard. Portability of a laptop comes at a high price. You lose a good screen, good keyboard, good video card... the list goes on. If you want an ergonomic computer, buy a desktop.

      You're right, but I'm not sure why things should go further downhill. Then, some other posters mentioned we could just attach external input devices.. which is also a good point I guess (but then it's less mobile).

    7. Re:Ergonomics by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      I really like the keyboard on the Tecra M series. Really nice, and actually raised ever so slightly.

    8. Re:Ergonomics by Sparr0 · · Score: 2, Informative

      Say you've got a Flash device that really and truly only can handle the oft-quoted 100,000 erase cycles. Quality Flash should actually be better than that these days, though some of it is apparently rather worse.

      If your Flash device is "4GB" with a formatted capacity of 3900MiB, and you do nothing but write to it as fast as you can - at, say, 30MB/s - you'll still only be able to replace its entire contents every 130 seconds. At that rate, it'll take you 150 days to hit 100,000 cycles. - Dan (corrected for spelling)

      Extrapolate to 20GB, and buy some decent quality flash guaranteed for 200k write cycles, add a dash of write-balancing filesystem magic, voila, 4 years before the drive starts to fail if you are doing nothing but writing to it at high speed all day every day. I don't know many people who put that kind of load on their drives, so let's call it an even 24 years with an average of 4 hours a day of full speed writing. So, what was that about "several years"?
    9. Re:Ergonomics by Dancindan84 · · Score: 1

      Ok, you like thicker laptops for the raised keyboards.

      So, I take it you like BBW for shall we say... the obvious reasons?

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    10. Re:Ergonomics by cerelib · · Score: 1

      Thinkpads have great keyboards. Also, the trackpoint is amazing. I honestly do not think I could ever buy another brand of laptop. I do not know how people put up with touchpads. Hopefully the trackpoint will make a comeback.

    11. Re:Ergonomics by AncientPC · · Score: 1

      What's your definition of a good keyboard?

      Personally I've been happy with laptop keyboards as long as they were full-sized, although this restriction does limit the size of the laptop I'm buying. I'd agree that I haven't found a comfortable keyboard with smaller keys though.

    12. Re:Ergonomics by autocracy · · Score: 1

      Powerbooks / Macbook Pros. They have a keyboard so nice I prefer to type on it over a desktop keyboard. Very low impact, low travel, and the perfect feedback / resistance.

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    13. Re:Ergonomics by treeves · · Score: 1

      My ThinkPad T43 has both, but I usually use the touchpad. I like the location better, or at least it's what I've gotten used to.

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    14. Re:Ergonomics by tsa · · Score: 1

      That's funny, I have a MBP (typing on it right now) and I don't like the keyboard much. And the screen. It more than makes up for those with the OS and everything else though. I'm very happy with the machine.

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    15. Re:Ergonomics by cerberusss · · Score: 1

      Actually I don't think that a keyboard with a slight slope is a good idea ergonomically-wise. Of course it has a big personal element in it, but a tilt means that you bend your wrists slightly upward. The more expensive Kinesis keyboardshave a design where you actually have your fingers lower than your wrists to keep the strain from the wrists.

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    16. Re:Ergonomics by maxume · · Score: 1

      For me, Bluetooth mice are the future. In situations where a mouse just won't work, I prefer a touchpad over a trackpoint, as there isn't a proficiency curve.

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    17. Re:Ergonomics by repvik · · Score: 1

      with >1,000,000 write cycles per block at a blocksize of 64kb with special routines to distribute the write load, "wearing out" a disk is going to take literally ages.

    18. Re:Ergonomics by lakeland · · Score: 1

      The macbook has a good keyboard. Strangely the macbook pro doesn't.

      The macbook pro has a good screen but the macbook doesn't (though, as noted here yesterday, the pro's is not good enough for people who object to temporal dithering). According to comments posted yesterday, Toshiba makes some laptops with screens for such people.

      A good video card is subjective - I consider my 6150 a great video card because it allows me to run a 3D GUI without overheating the case. My aunt has a laptop with a built in 6600 which she got when the 6800 was the best video card available in a desktop, so gamers laptops are available. (And no, she doesn't play games, I have no idea why she got a 6600).

    19. Re:Ergonomics by justin12345 · · Score: 1

      My last 3 laptops have been: First Gen iBook, First Gen Al Powerbook, and First Gen Black MacBook. The iBooks keyboard was a piece of shit, the Powerbook's was great and the MacBook's is so good I have a really hard time typing on anything else.

      I'm not much for 'clicky' desktop keyboards, you have to move your fingers too much. An almost perfectly flat keyboard sounds very appealing to me. I suppose it all depends on your point of view.

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    20. Re:Ergonomics by Jeff+DeMaagd · · Score: 1

      The battery life is partly because they are using the Ultra Low Volt (ULV) chips, which run at about 1.33GHz at most now, but they take a third the power of the 2.33GHz chips. Intel's ULV chips start with a letter "U", so if you can find the processor model, that's an easy way to tell.

      There are several notebooks out there that run 8 to 11 hours, just that they are slower and generally cost more than faster, hotter notebooks that drain their battery in 3 hours.

      I think that more battery life was squeezed out by using newer display technologies and better wireless efficiency.

    21. Re:Ergonomics by Iam9376 · · Score: 1

      You've obviously never used a T series Thinkpad

    22. Re:Ergonomics by westyx · · Score: 1

      I agree with your numbers, but they don't mirror real world usage. In the real world, that drive will probably mostly be full, leaving less room for the write balancing to work it's magic. It's not doom and gloom stuff, but it's not manymany years stuff.

      That's assuming that the write-balancing can only work on free space. Pretty sure that's right, but i can't confirm it at the moment.

    23. Re:Ergonomics by BJH · · Score: 1

      I'm fairly sure that it transparently moves data from "worn-out" blocks to fresh blocks automatically, so it should work across the whole drive.

    24. Re:Ergonomics by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      '' The battery life is partly because they are using the Ultra Low Volt (ULV) chips, which run at about 1.33GHz at most now, but they take a third the power of the 2.33GHz chips. Intel's ULV chips start with a letter "U", so if you can find the processor model, that's an easy way to tell. ''

      Any idea how they compare to a 2.33 GHz chip temporarily clocked down to 1.33 GHz?

    25. Re:Ergonomics by ssstraub · · Score: 1

      Agree 100%. About the only area I think Thinkpads can improve on are the quality of the screen. They're already built like a tank, have trackpoint, an astounding keyboard, and timeless design. I even *like* the IBM-bundled software, because it's useful (Access connections, IBM Predesktop, etc). Imagine getting useful bundled software with a Dell!

      I was very sad to see IBM sell the hardware business to Lenovo. I figure it's only a matter of time now.

  9. Big deal by rindeee · · Score: 4, Interesting

    A couple of years ago I had a Sharp Actius MM20 that was .62" thick vs. the .7" of Intel's latest. Granted there's more to Intel's prototype than small size, the 'ultra-thin'ness was the focus of this sub. And for the record, the RAZR V3 is .54" thick.

    1. Re:Big deal by drinkypoo · · Score: 2, Insightful

      The spec I read said the V3 is around .6 inches and the V3i (what I have - but I lack a micrometer or caliper) is .55 inches. Not sure about the RAZR's linux-based successor, which is coming out soon, but it's even thinner. Regardless, it's really not "almost as thin" as a RAZR; when you're talking about a phone barely over .5 inches thick, .2 inches is a very large percentage of its thickness.

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    2. Re:Big deal by pieterh · · Score: 1

      I am still using a Sony X505 which is 0.38" to .8" thick (it tapers). It cost me $4000 and suffers from a short battery life but is absolutely lovely to carry around and use. A kind of supermodel notebook - beautiful enough to make the uselessness not matter at all.

      If Intel can make something similarly slim, with a long battery life, I'm a client.

    3. Re:Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quote: "This ultraslim lightweight notebook measures just 0.62 inches (1.5 cm) at the thinnest point and weighs only 2.0 pounds (1 kilo)."

    4. Re:Big deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I had a Sharp Actius UM10M. Sounds like the dimensions were almost exactly the same as this upcoming version incl the magnesium shell. The keyboard issues discussed here were resolved with keys that actually raised up when the lid was opened- very comfortable & just the right level of sensitivity. Thing eventually died from a poorly designed power jack. Thing got me totally spoiled, everything else seems huge & heavy now. The tradeoff made in that model- and probably here- was a lack of removable media drives. Shipped with USB CD-ROM only.

      What I don't really understand is who exactly wants 14 hour battery life, anyway- unless you spend all your time on international flights or one-night camping trips, when are you away from an outlet for that long?

    5. Re:Big deal by rindeee · · Score: 1

      In fairness, I'd love 14 hours of battery life. Under Ubuntu (which I currently use) that would translate to like 4 hours! ;) Anyway, if they can truly squeeze that kind of battery life out of it, good on 'em. My primary point being that the 'headline' stated that it's the "world's thinnest laptop". But let's face it, no one is reading this now save for you and I. /. has posted numerous articles since this sub was posted and as such, no one gives a damn. :) Truth be damned.

    6. Re:Big deal by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      Not sure about the RAZR's linux-based successor, which is coming out soon...

      When, exactly is it coming out? And where can I read about it? My girlfriend is getting ready to buy a new phone...

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    7. Re:Big deal by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      When, exactly is it coming out? And where can I read about it? My girlfriend is getting ready to buy a new phone...

      I don't know many details... "Many markets" in July, QVGA, up to 2GB MicroSD (earlier models go up to 1GB) and 500MHz, 2mm slimmer, that's all I really know.

      Try google, buddy. :)

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  10. Core 2 Duo by Bananatree3 · · Score: 1

    It sports a Core 2 Duo processor along with WiFi, WiMAX and Bluetooth connectivity.

    1. Re:Core 2 Duo by level_headed_midwest · · Score: 1

      It would have to be a Core 2 Duo ULV, either the 1066 MHz or 1200 MHz model. No other Core 2 Duo would be able to run for 14 hours in that thin of a laptop.

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    2. Re:Core 2 Duo by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 1
      No other Core 2 Duo would be able to run for 14 hours in that thin of a laptop.

      Why, would it keep hitting its head or something? I'm missing your point. Why would the thinness keep it from running that long?

    3. Re:Core 2 Duo by sarahbau · · Score: 1

      Thin and light = small battery.

    4. Re:Core 2 Duo by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      It would overheat. Thinner means smaller heatsink (even if there is a heatpipe involved), you know.

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    5. Re:Core 2 Duo by shmlco · · Score: 1

      Flash HDD + LED Backlight - Optical Drive = Doesn't need a big battery.

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  11. Yes, but... by securityfolk · · Score: 1, Funny

    Will it play World of Warcraft??

    1. Re:Yes, but... by jandrese · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Since it's apparently made for Women, I'm guessing no.

      More accurately, I'm betting they're using the case to dissipate heat (which is going to be tough when it's covered in pleather) so they really can't afford to stick any sort of high end graphics in there. I'm betting keeping that Core2 cool will be work enough. The 14 hour battery life is another good indication that it won't play games very well, although it looks like they managed that by not putting an optical drive on there and filling up half of the case with battery.

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    2. Re:Yes, but... by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      Oddly enough I was looking at buying a new warcraft machine for myself today... I want to make sure it will perform in black temple. Too many crashes after patch this week.

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    3. Re:Yes, but... by shmlco · · Score: 1

      "... although it looks like they managed that by not putting an optical drive on there and filling up half of the case with battery."

      Flash-based HDD and probably LED backlighting for the screen.

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  12. need more ways to spend my cash by I_am_mccool · · Score: 1

    I like the idea of these... but based on how many $300+ phones I have managed to kill over the past 4 years I think these really expensive tech items are going to stay in the fashion accessory type market. Unless they can be made more durable and modular for upgrades / repairs.

    1. Re:need more ways to spend my cash by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Since you seem to keep buying them, exactly why would they change?

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  13. Quote from the article... by Starker_Kull · · Score: 1

    '...but people familiar with the matter say a PC maker will announce plans to start manufacturing the machine later this year.'

    Apple makes PCs, right?

    Seriously, the day someone makes a computer about the size and weight of a real notebook will be great. Most of the computer notebooks that are in the comfortable reading range (12" screens plus) are just a little too heavy (3.5 lbs. plus). It doesn't sound like much, but when you carry it around all day, along with the rest of the crap required in modern life, it adds up.

    1. Re:Quote from the article... by Chirs · · Score: 1

      Just curious what you consider "the rest of the crap required in modern life"?

      I carry my keys and my wallet. Maybe a pen. No phone, no pda, no laptop. My watch died last year and I haven't replaced it.

      Oh, and I do linux kernel development for a living.

    2. Re:Quote from the article... by Starker_Kull · · Score: 1

      Just curious what you consider "the rest of the crap required in modern life"? I carry my keys and my wallet. Maybe a pen. No phone, no pda, no laptop. My watch died last year and I haven't replaced it. Oh, and I do linux kernel development for a living.


      I'm an airline pilot - so, perhaps my stuff requirement is a bit higher than most - but, in general:

      1 - The cell phone is an absolute necessity; I don't have a landline, as it's overpriced and would be underused. With my schedule shifting around so frequently, and the fact that I rarely am near a desk, it would be impossible to stay in touch without it.
      2 - Laptop computer: my schedule is generally communicated to me via a brower-based communications system, schedule changes and requests have to be done through the same. I maintain a few small apps in Python, so I like to work with them on the road. I correspond by e-mail. I like working with my photos. Etcetera, etcetera, etcetera - since I'm not home frequently, everything I wish to use a computer for.
      3 - Wallet: I've reduced this to a money clip, so it doesn't tend to accumulate stuff
      4 - Pen: you might have to write something down every now and then
      5 - Notepad: 4 doesn't do much good without this
      5 - Book: airlines = lots of waiting around. I don't like getting bored or sucked into watching TV.
      6 - Watch: To show up places on time. They get picky about that where I work.
      7 - Keys: So I don't have to break into my apartment or car on a regular basis.
      8 - Backpack to carry the above.

      And this is when I am NOT going to work.
  14. Always on Internet Connection? by DoohickeyJones · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "Other features include always-on Internet connectivity via various wireless technologies." Hmmm, by automatically joining unsecured wireless access points, perhaps? Turn on your laptop, commit a felony! (According to some Michigan prosecuters, at least)

    1. Re:Always on Internet Connection? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      In order to be successfully prosecuted for a crime, the prosecution generally has to show intent. Having your laptop accidentally connect while you're passing by a store does not (or at least should not) constitute an intent to defraud internet access. In the case of the guy in Michigan, he was parking next to the store every day and deliberately using his laptop on their WiFi without patronizing the establishment. Even when that's not illegal, it is rather rude.

    2. Re:Always on Internet Connection? by contrapunctus · · Score: 1

      So if I were extending a baseball bat from a car window and didn't intend to hit a mailbox (or person), it shouldn't be a crime?
      What about getting on a plane and the laptop uses a cell phone signal.

      (I'm trying to be funny so please don't take this too seriously)

    3. Re:Always on Internet Connection? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      No worries. We have laws to protect against those who intend to be stupid. Holding a bat out the window of your car sounds like a recipe for involuntary manslaughter to me.

    4. Re:Always on Internet Connection? by DoohickeyJones · · Score: 1

      Yes, it (the prosecution) generally needs to show intent to commit a crime.
      Clearly, the man had no intent to commit a crime.
      (And here, we mentally rehash all the examples made yesterday)

      If I walk in to a stranger's unlocked house, it is possible that I could be shown to have implied intent to trespass, since a reasonable person would generally know that you don't walk in to someone's home uninvited. It isn't a sure thing, though. I might argue that I thought it was the home of a friend (who happens to live next door, and who I had only been to visit once, five years ago. I just got confused.)

      If I drive across somebody's private property\private road because it connects to a public road, and there isn't any signs indicating that it isn't a restricted access area, you will have a very, very difficult job showing intent.

      That is essentially (in my mind) what happened here. He saw a public access point, there was no indication that it was restricted, he could easily access it in a public place...and lots of places do, indeed, have free wireless access points that absolutely anybody is welcome to use.

      So how do you propose to show he had implied intent to commit an (obscure) crime?

      Ah well, I was making a lame joke, not trying to resurrect a pointless arguement. Have a good day!

    5. Re:Always on Internet Connection? by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

      Yes, it (the prosecution) generally needs to show intent to commit a crime.
      Clearly, the man had no intent to commit a crime.

      He intended to use the WiFi service of a local business without patronizing that business. The law says it's illegal to use the WiFi service of a local business without patronizing that business. Therefore, he intended to commit an illegal act, even though he was unaware that it was illegal.

      The fact that he was unaware of the law probably weighed on the judge's decision to go easy, but so did the fact that the guy was bumming service. Would it have killed him to go inside? Of course not, but he probably would have been thrown out if he didn't purchase anything. Thus we get back to the fact that his actions were morally questionable to begin with, and that he was probably aware of that fact.

      In the case of accidental connection, there was never an intent to connect to the network at all, much less bum service. So it would be far more difficult to prove intent. (And besides, how would they track you down in the first place? The guy got caught because he was obviously helping himself to WiFi service day after day.)

      Sorry for the response, but I figured it was worth clarifying. :)
  15. FYI: Magnesium case by ciaohound · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Champagne-colored" or not, the use of magnesium is encouraging. The thinness is worthless if it's not sturdy enough to withstand being sat on, stepped on, jammed in a bag or purse, or even just twisted in your hands. I have never bought myself a laptop, because the real road warriors require sturdier case materials than I care to spend, but I worked with a lot of old GRiD laptops and, man, they could withstand rough handling. Not dropping -- mag will shatter -- but just about anything else users could dish out.

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  16. Sony already did this 10 years ago by lobiusmoop · · Score: 0

    With their Vaio PCG range of laptops. Beautiful hardware. With a modern harddrive and memory maxed out they still make usable and ultraportable laptops.

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  17. getting close by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to where i'd actually use a laptop.
    i still hate the keyboards too much, though.

  18. Ultra Metro Man by simpl3x · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The details look suspiciously mac like, and I would much rather have a tough shell than a screen on the outside so that I can carry it without a sleeve. I'm jitter enough thanks to my Blackberry!

    One day I'm hoping for that Powerbook 2400 replacement...

    1. Re:Ultra Metro Man by s.bots · · Score: 3, Funny
      From TFA:

      Ziba hopes to see the computer sold with a special protective folio that, at first glance, looks like a fashionable cover for a personal diary. The folio, which clings to the laptop with embedded magnets, is equipped with contacts that connect the laptop to an external digital screen. The screen is on the case. You can still get a "manly" tough ass case or build your own out of the skulls of your foes.
  19. Does it come with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    1. Re:Does it come with by freeze128 · · Score: 1

      The male version will be titanium with a black leather case and a chain for a shoulder strap...

      ...Uh, wait... Maybe that's the bondage slave version...

    2. Re:Does it come with by BoothbyTCD · · Score: 1

      ...Uh, wait... Maybe that's the bondage slave version... Will it come pre-loaded with GIMP?
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  20. Thinkpad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I'll stick with my Thinkpad X60s, thanks. Right around 8 hours of battery with the extended life battery (running Linux), a 12.1" display, about an inch thick, and just over 3 pounds.

    1. Re:Thinkpad by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      I'll stick with my Thinkpad X60s, thanks. Right around 8 hours of battery with the extended life battery (running Linux), a 12.1" display, about an inch thick, and just over 3 pounds.

      Which battery setup are you using? The 8-cell? I can't remember if the X60s has an add-on battery pack for the bottom or if that's only for the T60 units.

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  21. Interesting by mgabrys_sf · · Score: 1

    Apple rumors are pointing to an ultra-portable Macbook with flash memory instead of a hard drive and an LED backlit display that was to have an insane profile. Looks like a peek into the next generation of hardware from not just Wintels but Macs as well from a concept standpoint.

    Sexy as hell, but I'd like to see specs and of course - ultra thin screens aren't my thing in the real-world. One trip through the airport and CRACK. Anyone remember the first generation of titanium Powerbooks? Yeek!

    My (black - non-pro) Macbook at least gives me some confidence that if some gorrilla at the Xray machine plops something on my bin I'll have a computer that still works when it comes though the other side.

    1. Re:Interesting by RazorDaze · · Score: 1

      I've had a Sharp MM20 for a few years now, and it's about as thin and light as what they're talking about, and it's made it through dozens of airports and daily road-warrior abuse without any more problems than a damaged power connector, (from getting wrenched about while plugged into the car charger) which was covered by the extended warranty.

      It's not fast / powerful, but it's great at writing, emailing and research, which is everything I need a school / work computer to do. I'd imagine that a magnesium-encased, flash-drive version would be even more durable, so if this makes it to market, it'd be a worthy successor.

      The nice thing about a lighter computer is that they don't hit the floor quite so hard, and they're pretty easy to keep a hold on them. And I know from previous experience that a $3000+ price tag will keep your grip pretty tight.

  22. So where by Demona · · Score: 1

    are the affordable (not necessarily 'cheap') laptops, using LinuxBIOS to boot minimal X (in under 10 seconds) that can login over the network, using no local hard drive or flash drive (of course you can always add those), with CPU's that don't run hot enough to cook your sperm, with a battery life actually measured in days instead of pitiful hours?

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    1. Re:So where by Anonymous+McCartneyf · · Score: 1

      Those laptops are all headed to "developing" countries.
      If you hadn't specified Linux, I'd also consider citing Toys 'R' Us for its educational selection.

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  23. Careful.. by sqldr · · Score: 0

    You'll turn my ultra un-cool alienware bulimic. All this "size zero" is unrealistic and degrading to more average sized laptops.

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  24. Cue: Seinfeld by GillBates0 · · Score: 3, Funny

    It's not a purse, it's European!

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  25. Reminds me.. by ackthpt · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Reminds me of when I bought my ultra slim Sony Vaio laptop, with a Pentium 300MHz processor. I thought it was pretty cool. Eventually I grew tired of waiting for it to boot up, load programs, do anything. Maybe if it comes with a tight Linux distro.

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    1. Re:Reminds me.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      From the screenshots, it looks like it's running Vista.

    2. Re:Reminds me.. by BosstonesOwn · · Score: 0

      Does this mean we can tag it "destined to fail" ?

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    3. Re:Reminds me.. by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 1

      Those aren't real.

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  26. Re:Attention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or else what?

  27. Re:FYI: Magnesium case by Garridan · · Score: 1

    Yeah. I've got an otter box for my ~16in widescreen laptop. Together, they weight a frikkin' TON. But, it's waterproof, and protects the laptop when dropped. Which, sadly, happens a lot since the hooks on the shoulder strap are so shittily designed. However, I can jump up & down on the thing with my laptop running inside, and nothing gets hurt. Except me, if I land wrong. But that hasn't happened, yet.

  28. Laptop == Cellphone by boylinux · · Score: 1

    Small end laptops and high end cellphones are starting to look an awful lot like fraternal twins nowdays.

  29. Lithium-Ion battery + Magnesium Case = BOOM! by Brit_in_the_USA · · Score: 1

    Am I the only person with some High School chemistry knowledge that is very worried about wearing a huge chunk of magnesium with a Lithium-Ion detonator^W battery attached to it....

    1. Re:Lithium-Ion battery + Magnesium Case = BOOM! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Am I the only person with some High School chemistry knowledge that is very worried about wearing a huge chunk of magnesium with a Lithium-Ion detonator^W battery attached to it....
      Not all magnesium burns as nicely as the stuff your teacher probably did the demonstration on. For example, http://www.simson.net/hacks/cubefire.html">here some people try to set fire to the iconic NeXT Cube, without much success.
    2. Re:Lithium-Ion battery + Magnesium Case = BOOM! by Beyond_GoodandEvil · · Score: 1

      Am I the only person with some High School chemistry knowledge that is very worried about wearing a huge chunk of magnesium with a Lithium-Ion detonator^W battery attached to it....

      Probably since this is most likely a magnesium alloy, thus no more likely to oxide very exothermically than the aluminum case on your old laptop should the lithium ion battery short and catch fire.

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    3. Re:Lithium-Ion battery + Magnesium Case = BOOM! by ciaohound · · Score: 1

      I think the likelihood is about the same as the lithium inadvertently acting as a mood stabilizer.

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    4. Re:Lithium-Ion battery + Magnesium Case = BOOM! by Sparr0 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Magnesium in a proper alloy for a computer case is rather difficult to ignite.

    5. Re:Lithium-Ion battery + Magnesium Case = BOOM! by Brit_in_the_USA · · Score: 1

      Ncie link. They did manage to ignite magnesium alloy, so it is a possible risk.

      BTW - did some research.
      Ignition temperature of Magnesium = 473 C
      Ignition point of Aluminium = 760 C


      Temperature of Lithium Burning = 760 C
      Temperature of Magnesium Burning = 2204 C (!!)


      So I stand by my worry that a Lithium battery fire could ignite a magnesium case fire. And add the worry that the temperatures woudl be MUCH greater.

    6. Re:Lithium-Ion battery + Magnesium Case = BOOM! by Sparr0 · · Score: 1

      Alloys do not melt or ignite at any predictable function of their components' melting or ignition temperatures. Field's metal is the most fun eample of this, due to it's melting point of only 144F, despite all of its component metals having melting points above 300F. Magnesium+Aluminum might not burn at all, or it might only ignite at 3000C, or it might ignite at 300C.

  30. Targetted a PC-version of the RAZR... by jojoba_oil · · Score: 1

    Well it seems they hit their mark, dead-on even. It's slim, it's hip... Hell, you even wear it at your hip when not using it -- just like the RAZR. I must admit that even I am interested in this; and I'm typically one to avoid/crack-jokes-at PC rice-rocketeering. (Your PC has a window with a blue glow? Does that add 5~10 horsepower?!)

    However, this thing does not look durable in the slightest. Granted I treat my stuff with respect, but the typical American PC user gets real careless real fast. Not to mention that the cousin RAZR has enough reliability issues without being abused. Here's for hoping that this Metro PC doesn't inherit the RAZR issues -- Cheers!

    1. Re:Targetted a PC-version of the RAZR... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I get an extra 200MHz, thank you very much.

    2. Re:Targetted a PC-version of the RAZR... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have to agree, though this looks nice, I wonder if it can handle being dropped. Do they have a "Soviet Surplus Steel" version of this thing?

  31. Re:Attention by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Or else what?

    Or else I'll install Windoze Vista on my boxen.
  32. High-End meand High-End by Nom+du+Keyboard · · Score: 1

    Why would you leave great features out of a high-end product? I thought the whole idea of high-end was that you got all the good stuff with it.

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  33. For the resto of us: by Psicopatico · · Score: 0

    [...]is less than 0.7 inches thick[...]
    That's 17.78 millimeters.

    And at 2.25 pounds[...]
    That's 1.020 grams.

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    1. Re:For the resto of us: by Qubit · · Score: 1

      I think you confused grams with kilograms...

      0.7 inches = approx. 18 mm
      2.25 pounds = approx. 1.02 kg

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  34. Best munchies for coding... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Oh crap, I've just bitten into my laptop!

    Yum, salsa...

  35. ...ummm ...ponies? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    I am not paying $200 more just because it's pink, now OTOH if they put ponies on it.. I agree, although I'd prefer mine to be preloaded with a selection of porn that features good looking human females not ponies. Are you from the Shetlands by any chance?
    1. Re:...ummm ...ponies? by 42Penguins · · Score: 1

      And so on.

  36. "Fashion Accessory" by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 1

    I'm not so keen on the purse idea. While it might appeal to some women, I have a suspicion that it would be at risk of theft at all times. Better to use a more nondescript bag than a fancy cover with an external screen that shouts, "Steal me! I'm expensive!"


    The summary states that it was designed as a fashion accessory. Do you know what 'fashion accessory' means? It means something a woman wears that shouts, "Steal me! I'm expensive!" Just ask my wife.

    1. Re:"Fashion Accessory" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      so you wear your wife as a fashion accessory?

  37. I've been noticing this for a while by Glowing+Fish · · Score: 1, Redundant

    I've been noticing for a few years now that laptops are in high demand, often by people who don't seem to have a really great reason for wanting them. It seems that a lot of the demand has to do with people wanting something that looks cool and will allow them to show off in coffeeshops.

    And it seems like the manufacturers realize this, and are playing to it.

    The biggest problem with laptops is proprietary parts. There are many people who have broken their power supply, battery, screen, keypad etc. and desperately want a new one. But because these parts are proprietary, its often hard to find the right one. Companies should be introducing more standardization in laptop parts now.

    But instead, they are probably just going to decide on ways to make them MORE fashionable. Which I am sure will run them well in the shortrun, but fashions change. What are these companies going to do in a few years when laptops are no longer quite so hot, and people are more used to them, and more critical, and ask more questions about durability?

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    1. Re:I've been noticing this for a while by businessnerd · · Score: 1

      Standardization is good, but I think there are some serious drawbacks to it in the laptop market. While I would love to be able to build my own laptop in the same way I do with my desktops, part of inovating the laptop market is making it more mobile. Laptops were introduced because people wanted mobile computing, but today's laptops can still have a lot of room for improvement. Even this new thin laptop has room for improvement on just mobility alone. The great thing about the proprietary parts, is that you can make them in any shape you want, standards be damned, to shrink your machine down. Even if all laptops were to jump to one standard now, I don't think we really have any good standards. Hardly any of today's quasi-standard laptop parts would work in this new thing.

      I see laptops following more of a PDA/Cellphone form. Laptops will be just another mobile device, or even THE ONLY mobile device (they can do it all in one small package). The parts will all become tightly integrated and they will be so commoditized that you won't even try to fix it if it breaks, you would just replace it.

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    2. Re:I've been noticing this for a while by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 1

      I bought a laptop. I didn't need to take it anywhere, I don't need another computer at work, it barely leaves the house. Still, I find it much more usable than a desktop. I've always enjoyed the way I could sit anywhere in the house and surf the net, play some games, or do some programming. It gives me something to do on the toilet (where I am right now). I realise that I probably fit your definition of people who don't need laptops, but I honestly can't imagine returning to desktops. No way, I've seen the light.

      That said, if you're a PC geek, I appreciate that a desktop provides the best expandability, but that isn't exactly me, and it definitely isn't most people out there.

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  38. Keyboard by gilesjuk · · Score: 1

    Making a laptop thinner is good so long as the keyboard doesn't suffer. Laptop keyboards can be flimsy enough as it is.

  39. Computer Purse by Kuvter · · Score: 1

    I think I speak for all the guys on /. when I say:

    I want to go shopping for a purse!

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  40. Re:Photos, aka MY logic is trapezoidal by ReverendLoki · · Score: 1

    How do you know she is tiny ? You sound like a typical western male, filled with stereotypes about Asians.

    Not at all... they just compared the woman to the tiny notebook computer.

    And no, I've never thought of logic as being circular, more as a rectangle... er, why do you ask?

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  41. Fashion Accesory? That's so cute! by iminplaya · · Score: 1

    It will go so well with my Lady Smith.

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  42. HP Sojourn / Mistubishi Pedion a decade ago by pz · · Score: 2, Informative

    The HP Sojourn (a rebadged Mistubushi Pedion) explored this corner of the design space in the very late 1990s, just about 10 years ago. I've owned a few of them. Fantastically thin at 0.72 inches (just 0.02 inches thicker than the claimed thickness of the new Intel device), with a then state-of-the-art 2 or 6 GB 9 mm disk drive and Pentium II 233 MMX processor with 64 MB of main memory. Very nice display, too. 2 PCMCIA slots, one USB 1.1 port, but no network interface. Excellent support under Linux including sleep and hibernation modes. To achieve such a slim form factor, the keyboard was chicklet-style (not unlike the HP calculators) which really didn't appeal to the power user. It was marketed to executives with the even-then astronomical pricetag of USD 6k. I bought my first one used at USD 1.5k (they were really bad at holding their value); currently you see them on eBay for under USD 200.

    These are really, really thin. With full-sized keyboards and 12.1 inch displays. Slimmer than many padfolios. I never understood why that part of the design space wasn't more fully populated, as it's such an obvious (to me) win to have a really light, really thin, computer with a full-sized display and keyboard. Perhaps we're coming back to it.

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  43. Gold trim? Champagne-colored? by amper · · Score: 1

    What is this? The 1980's?

  44. Caveat by rs79 · · Score: 0, Redundant

    There's a parellel here from the wristwatch world.

    Originaly wristwatches were smallish pocket watches on straps (think "luggable". They were for women and no self respecing man would wear one. Then WWI came along and men in the trenches were ordered to wear one Suddenly it was ok for men to be seen wearing one. They were still pretty big though. As time went on the "arms race" was for smaller and thinner watches. By the time the 50's rolled around they were not much more in size than two quarters stack on each other.

    This was more of a fashion statement than anything else and companies like Omega and Rolex made reasonably sized watches even while maintaining other lines that were oh so thin.

    Concord took it to the limit with the "Delirium". They were very very thin. The mark IV was SO thin you couldn't actually wear it without bending it.

    I worry about things being too small. I hear the same complaints about cel phones.

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  45. Remotely Exploitable harddrive destruction feature by EraserMouseMan · · Score: 1

    From TFA, "The computer also is built to enhance security, boasting a fingerprint reader and a mechanism that lets users kill a hard drive by remote control ."

    This quote was under the subheading "The Wow Factor".

  46. The sucky thing about the cell Internet access... by Crazy+Taco · · Score: 1

    The sucky thing about the cell Internet access is going to be the price. You will of course have to sign up with a cell phone company for some sort of plan, and those companies regard "data" as their goose that laid the golden egg and are constantly jacking up prices. You will get charged by the megabyte or even kilobyte for downloads, and as most of us know, even visiting a site like slashdot sends down lots data in the form of html text, scripts, etc. Visit (or even accidently visit) a site that needs to send down a flash file and your wallet will really be hurting. This current model for data fees will kill you even on a phone, and at least with a phone most people don't surf the web too much or download all that much data (due mostly to the small size of the screens and small storage space). Give them a laptop with an always on connection and a web browser (which they will use to naively surf the web like normal) and they will just get destroyed.

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  47. My Prediction: Prototype Macbook by datapharmer · · Score: 1

    Here's my prediction: This is the prototype for the New Macbook Pro.

    Go ahead and call me crazy, but this has happened before. Remember Intel showing of their mac mini look alike... well turns out it wasn't just a look alike but we didn't know that at the time.

    There is more to it than just that too:

    It has an optional e-ink screen on the outside - remember all those people shouting for an apple tablet? Well know it is an option.

    What about that "connection-less charging pad, allowing the batteries of phones and PDAs to be recharged just by placing them on the notebook." I do recall apple mentioning something about a new phone... and forget the PDA and think updated ipod. It would mean you could wirelessly charge the ipod and it has bluetooth (apple seems to stick by bluetooth in its computers, so why not add the capability to ipods so they can sync wirelessly too and have wireless headphones (which there have been requests for.

    It has a slim profile and is obviously being marketed to the hip asian market for ultra-thin computers (a market apple wants to reclaim).

    It has insane battery life, flash memory, and Wifi - all things apple said they want in their laptops.

    Mark my words, it might not be the exact computer they offer but I'd put money down it is a prototype.

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    1. Re:My Prediction: Prototype Macbook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mac or not, still, it will use "Intel" processors.

    2. Re:My Prediction: Prototype Macbook by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      It has an optional e-ink screen on the outside - remember all those people shouting for an apple tablet? Well know it is an option.

      Having an extra screen on the outside has (or should have) nothing to do with it being a tablet. As the owner of an X60 tablet, I can tell you that having a digitizer on the main screen and a swiveling hinge are the requirements. E-ink would only be useful on the main screen (although, of course, it would make the computer useless for games or video).

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  48. Re:Remotely Exploitable harddrive destruction feat by AKAImBatman · · Score: 1

    That's becoming a common feature in laptops today. The reasoning behind it is that the thief is probably after the data more than the laptop itself. However, if the laptop is worth a mint itself, the perpetrator will simply wipe the machine and resell it.

  49. Friends quote by edson+at+lies.cl · · Score: 0

    Joey: is not a purse!! it's a "man's bag".

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  50. Ouch by ksd1337 · · Score: 1

    Wow. An anorexic laptop. What will they come up with next?
    I know, an anorexic OS! It would hate to hog memory... OK, that was pretty lame.

    In Soviet Russia, laptop slims YOU!

  51. This should be sold as PDA replacement by Scott7477 · · Score: 1

    Since this would have a keyboard you could type on with more than your thumbs, you could get rid of your old laptop, your PDA, and your Blackberry. This would be what I am looking for in a laptop; e.g. it is thin enough to fit into a briefcase yet has good battery life and storage. With this I could take notes, write, work on spreadsheets anywhere in an unobtrusive manner. This product should be re-targeted at business customers.

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  52. What I want to know is... by VinB · · Score: 0

    Does it come in chocolate?

  53. Magnets? by Silentknyght · · Score: 1
    from TFA:

    The computer comes with a diary-like folder that attaches to the laptop via magnets Am I missing something here? Wouldn't magnets in close proximity to the laptop damage the display and/or the data? If true, it seems like a vain thing to do for the sake of accessorizing.
    1. Re:Magnets? by datapharmer · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I have a laptop. It has speakers. The speakers have magnets in them and they are INSIDE the case. I'm not too worried.

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    2. Re:Magnets? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      >Am I missing something here? Wouldn't magnets in close proximity to the laptop damage the display and/or the data?

      No. It's not a CRT display, so there is no electron beam to deflect magnetically. Also, as the magnet is permanent, the shielding on the hard drive also shunts away such permanent magnetic fields. There is probably SOME amount of magnetism the case of the hard drive cannot shunt away, but they've (I assume) checked to make sure the hard drive won't be affected by the size of magnet near it.

      This is why your ancient disk/videotape bulk eraser either uses a rotating permanent magnet or an electromagnet, so it can generate the alternating field that randomizes data.

  54. Re:The sucky thing about the cell Internet access. by lmnfrs · · Score: 1

    Which is why mobile phone companies offer unlimited access plans for phone or laptop users. The laptop plans are expensive to most, but for users with money to spare (those who might buy a fancypants laptop) they are perfectly reasonable.

  55. huh. looks a lot like a MacBook Pro. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gotta wonder whether the rumored sub-micro MacBook makes it to market first, too.

    -p.

  56. Pfft. by ksd1337 · · Score: 1

    It will certainly help computer repair services and shops. Watch them get a surge of pursetop repair requests every 28 days.

  57. One whole USB port by texwtf · · Score: 1

    Looks like it might have a headphone jack too. No wonder they're comparing it to a phone instead of other laptops.

  58. Transmeta made it happen several years ago by kindbud · · Score: 1

    Sharp's Actius MM10 notebook (review, run Gentoo on it) is about 6 years old now, and it's just as thin as the Intel prototype. It had one of the first Transmeta chips, the Crusoe at 933Mhz. I own one, and it still gets used to this day. It runs Linux now, because only that OS supports WPA2 with its wireless chipset (Prizm2). I love this thing so much that when it's display got damaged I payed for an out-of-warranty repair.

    The newer MM20 model is slightly thicker, has a built-in optical drive, and runs a Transmeta Efficeon core.

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  59. Panasonic Toughbook by Jeff+Carr · · Score: 1

    Very expensive for what you get if you're rating the computing power, but amazingly tough.

    In 1998, I was in Guyana, riding in the back of a 2 1/2 ton military truck. I was (stupidly) typing with one hand and holding a sat antenna out of the back with the other, sending a message. We hit a bump, and the laptop flew out of my lap, dangled from it's serial port for a second before falling and ending up face down, open, and running, into the wet soft sand of the "road" at probably around 20 miles an hour or so. Picked it up, wiped the mud off the screen, reconnected it, sent the message, and tried to act casually unsurprised. It was still working over a year later when I left the military.

    I don't know that that would be repeatable, but it sold me, on Toughbooks.

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  60. thin? by zymano · · Score: 1

    It's not that thin. There are others out there near that width.

  61. Not the thinnest by jwdb · · Score: 1

    Seems people have forgotten Sony's VAIO x505: tapered from .75in at the back to .3 at the front and weight 1.85lb. Problem was, it was only sold in Japan and in very limited numbers in the US.

    Personally, I'd love a good ultralight. Give me a small machine any day - something you can flip open on the bus or train without a second thought. Rip any entertainment (so you can dump the optical drive) and run any computationally-intensive tasks on a remote desktop via ssh.

    Jw

  62. Magnets by jon_anderson_ca · · Score: 1

    The folio [cover], which clings to the laptop with embedded magnets, is equipped with contacts that ...

    Not something you'd expect to see in a description of a computer... but then again, this isn't a typical computer (there's no hard drive).

  63. Seasonal laptops by miller701 · · Score: 1

    Yeah, if it's white or black, women will need to buy two laptops, white for summer and black for fall/winter. Can't be caught using a white laptop after Labor Day, you know (US Seasons and holidays, no silly comments from the Aussies and Kiwis, OK?).

  64. Thickness by miller701 · · Score: 1

    When things get under an inch, small differences make a big difference in how it feels in you hands. Compare a 1st Gen iPod vs a current one. There's a huge difference in the feel of it.