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Baby Mammoth Found Intact
knoll99 writes "Scientists unveiled the discovery Wednesday of a baby mammoth found in the permafrost of north-west Siberia. The remains of the six-month-old female mammoth were discovered in a remarkable state of preservation on the Yamal peninsula of Russia in May, a Reuters report said. The specimen is believed to be the best of its kind to date."
some scrambled T-rex eggs, but then again I'm just that type of mutha fuckin balla.
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until they discover a frozen Draenei
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The Jurassic Park-esque cloning talk is definitely going to be the focus of most of the discussion, but have any of the articles mentioned how well the tissues, organs, and fluids are preserved? This seems like an extraordinary chance to find hard evidence on what caused their extinction.
Time to extract the DNA and impregnate an African elephant to mess with nature in a way we shouldn't.
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I've heard that scientists hope to extract DNA from a mammoth and then use that to make one (by means of a female elephant). I wonder if there are still scientists hoping to clone a mammoth, and if so, I wonder if this baby mammoth has some good DNA (to date, all known mammoths' DNA had degraded too much for use).
Sweeet. The warm-a-nazis get to blame both the death and the finding of the mammoth on Global Warming.
They will probably spin it this way, though: "Global warming killed the parents of this poor little baby mammoth, which then died of loneliness and a broken heart. Do you want the same thing to happen to your children?!"
Can't wait for the Disney movie!
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1. Russian vodka
2. Frozen mammoth baby
3. ????
4. Profit
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Let's start a petition: I promised my kids a baby Mammoth ride.
From what I have read about this find, there are probably no cells that haven't been destroyed from the freezing process that would help produce a clone of the animal, there is always hope that some may still be intact.
It seems the the Siberian mammoth population has tripled in the past 6 months...
clone it. clone it! clone it!! what good is all this "science" if we don't CLONE IT!!!
Sure everyone expects the clone expert to generate the best dinosaurs since Noah's ark.
How should it be prepared? I'm sure whatever they decide, it will be delicious.
Not only humans made mamooths extinct, but we also unearth all of their remains so that the next intelligent species after our own extinction won't find any of them, at least not in good shape.
God must have put it there just to drive fundamentalists crazy ;-)
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whenever mankind shows up, the slowly reproducing, tasty giant beasts and megafauna disappear, sometimes pretty quicky
off the top of my head, it happened to
the auroch
the irish elk
the moa
steller's sea cow (wiped out in 30 years, go progress!)
i'm sure slashdotters here could pull out a couple of dozen other examples
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Nobody in that video seems to be too concerned about the girl thawing and starting to rot. I'd expect it to rot in short order.
This was reported on the internet super-crawl-way about 6 days ago!
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The Devil put it there because God is too weak to stop him.
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The MAFIAA is a bunch of mindless jerks who will be the first up against the wall when the revolution comes
A Mammoth? That's huge.
The fact that it is old also works against the clonning...
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didn't we find a frozen male ages ago now we can clone them both, and while i spend my time on the internet reading slashdot so I'm not too familiar with the mechanics of it, get them to mate and produce a whole army of mammoths, for meat and pets and giant woolly steads to conquer siberia.
Dead as a doorknob, but yeah, otherwise intact.
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Biologists are getting good at sequencing DNA very fast. This is done by breaking many copies of the DNA up into little overlapping pieces which are separately sequenced; then these overlapping subsequences are fit together, like a puzzle. A bunch of mostly intact DNA would be a lot like a bunch of mostly intact copies of the same puzzle. I would expect that it should be possible to get a completely correct sequence as long as the DNA in some of the cells isn't too badly damaged. They could also get a lot of help in this process from the sequences of close modern relatives. Synthesizing a complete undamaged copy of the DNA should eventually be possible. Maybe it could be done by doing search/replace using the diff's from a modern relative?
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Dude what the hell are you trying to listen for ..there is no heartbeat it's been dead for 10,000+ years
I want to share this discovery with my children which are very interested in dinosaurs and past forms of life that populated the earth ages ago.
I'd like to have more pictures than the currently released.
If you find a good source of pictures please reply to this post. Thanks.
I can tell that they are going to be very excited about this!!
and they will ask me tons of questions! =:-|
It's ok! Believe me, they will discover something even better!
The next intelligent species will find us and be amazed at how many human corpses they've found lying around next to an artifact with what seems to be a mice-shaped object in their hand. It might take them a while to guess what we were doing, unless Slashdot plans to be around by the year five million.
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Why was it not buried deep in the snow/ground?
(I do not mean to advocate anything, just would like to know).
other example: unfortunately, not you.
Will it blend?
(sorry, i just saw... never mind, my fault...)
Sweet I'll fire up the grill.
I was reading Clive Cussler's Polar Shift yesterday, which has a fictional discovery of a baby Mammoth in Siberia. Then, I click on my /. RSS feed today, and there it is as the first entry.
In the book, I think they were planning to clone it with an elephant.
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Instantly frozen in a historical world wide catastrophe aka the flood!
Jedis are stupid. If they were so powerful, why couldn't they handle counseling for a kid who missed his mom?
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As opposed to all of the ones they've found that have been neutered?
I remember the fuss they made over that mammoth DC recovered a fear years back. They were going to do all this DNA mixing with modern elephants yadayada, and still to this day I haven't heard anything else about it. Great that they found the mammoth baby, but at this point its boy who cries wolf when they claim they can potentially mix the DNA. No more false promises or "possiblies" until proven.
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I know it's sick, but that list of critters made my belly rumble. Mmm... meat.
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What's up with all the "Will it blend?" posts? Did Letterman invent a new game show or something?
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What's the state of the art in DNA from recently extinct animals (like saber-tooth tigers and mammoths)? Are these animals firmly placed in current cladistic taxonomy? Are there still cool things to be learned from their DNA?
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I say forget the mammoth, but send some of that tact over to slashdot, where it's sorely needed.
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Probably no clones, but this will still give researchers a wealth of information. It's very likely the genomic DNA can be sequenced, maybe even fully. There was one study that was able to sequence the genomic (as opposed to the much more resistant mitochondrial) DNA of two 40 000 YO cave bears. It could also be that in the future we will be able to clone just from the sequence information, although this would be quite some time away.
whenever mankind shows up
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On viewing the dead baby mammoth, Bill Clinton stated that he was impressed with its beauty, and wanted to have a date with it.
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IN SOVIET RUSSIA... baby mammoth eats you!!
As we read this, some restaurant in Los Angeles is preparing to offer pan seared baby siberian mammoth with macadamia crusted Hawaiian octosquid.
That would be some nasty freezer burn :(
Their genes can and do carry deceases we're not familiar with. Probably not resistant to Penicillin though.
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So mammoths tasted better or reproduced slower than for example elephants? Bears taste good but don't seem to have been generally hunted into extinction even where humans appeared suddently.
But yes, mammoths may have been easier to hunt than elephants as they hadn't time to adapt to better and better human hunters.
TFA says that for cloning, you must have intact cells. Since Lyuba's (the mammoth's) cells were all burst as a result of cold (the corpse being embedded in permafrost), no cigar this time.
i would respond with qualifiers:
1. the megafauna i'm talking about would be the herbivores
2. the megafauna in the cold climates/ on islands are for more vulnerable than those in the tropics: easier hunting. there are also less food choices in cold climes. and slow reproducing island species are extremely vulnerable to extinction just by being small in number to begin with
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A six month old, frozen, abandoned mammoth? Where were the parents?
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Am I the only one who thinks the title of this article should've been "Baby Mammoth REMAINS found Intact?" I was so mislead :)
They finally found my cousin!
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Well, there's always "never even evolved".
Actually, according to Creationists, that's pretty damn near everything - so I guess for them it's "well done"!
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what about the dodo
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How true. There was a massive extinction of larger animals in North America 10,000 years ago, coincident with a new migration of people across the Siberian land bridge. Giant sloth, cave bear, sabertooth, mastodon, etc. were wiped out. Many claim this was just a coincidence, but I'm not buying it. Try a visit to the La Brea tar pits (my favorite bilingual redundant name) and see if they are still claiming these extinctions had nothing to do with PETA (People Eating Tasty Animals).
Most of the megafauna are also those that didn't co-evolve with humans.
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I *really* doubt that saber-tooth tigers were tasty. That's not the reputation that cats have.
I suspect that people contributed to the extinction of those animals (and of other less spectacular species) not only by eating them, but also by carrying diseases that they had not co-evolved with. Also, in the case of the saber-tooth, e.g., by competing for the same food supply. (Mammoths, perhaps. One of the recorded ways of hunting mammoths is to set a grass-fire and stampede a herd over a cliff.)
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Also coincident with the end of the ice age environment these species were adapted to. The humans back then probably scavenged more than they hunted; easy pickings.
Also, one has to wonder why the buffalo, the moose, and the deer, which replaced the ice age herbivores in North America, weren't wiped out by human over-hunting. They seem a lot easier to kill than mastodon. Maybe it's because humans didn't start over-hunting other species until we developed guns?
That's well known. Pigs and dogs brought by people ate them and their eggs. Slow flightless birds made easy targets. People tried eating them, but found they weren't very tasty.
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i know but still the giant irish elk is also a very famous example if you've ever opened a child's book about
... they have no taste when it comes to food imo
extincted species, and many kids have since everybody loves dinosaurs
but i always thought it were solely the people of the netherlands who were responsible for
the demise of the dodo race, since well to be frank
The girl in the photo is gazing lovingly at the butthole and some old guy is listening to its penis. What kind of zoologists are they!?
crap.
I believe it used to belong to Jeffrey Dahmer. Guess what you're in for you delicious little Dumbo.
crap.
Ozzie was preserved pretty well frozen too, but is only 5000 some years old, slightly older than the oldest desert mummies. Maybe global warming will reveal a human who fell into a crevice and froze to death tens of thousands of years ago. One of side-effects of global warming.
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I believe the extinction of mammoths was caused by the near passage of a planetary body that caused an abrupt alteration in atmospheric pressure and temperature, and slipped the Earth's mantle around. Look into it.
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e arth/2007/07/11/scibaby111.xml
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/
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I suspect that mastadons had a harder time hiding from people, reproduced at a much slower rate than the other animals, and had issues with their food supply relating to the change of climate at the end of the last ice age (they no doubt required a lot of food to survive). That combined with steady human predation no doubt drove them to extinction. However, I don't think humans were the primary cause of mammoth extinction. I imagine that if they reproduced as quickly as horse or deer, and ate much less food, they would still be around today.
What I find strange is that horses became extinct in the Americas, but not in Eurasia. I don't see any cause for that to happen.