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Group Hopes to Rename Street After Douglas Adams

interstellar_donkey writes "Despite the recent brouhaha over the renaming of 4th Ave after César Chávez, a Portland group is pushing to rename a local street after the late writer Douglas Adams. The street? Why, 42nd Ave, of course. According to their website, the renaming will reflect Portlanders' commitment to the arts, respect for the environment, desire to provide technological access to all, their passion to further education to all people, and most importantly remind Portlanders DON'T PANIC. This appears to be a serious movement, with preliminary paperwork already in the works."

223 comments

  1. Holy Crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Is this the first story to feature a period at the end of the title?

    1. Re:Holy Crap! by noidentity · · Score: 5, Funny

      Is this the first story to feature a period at the end of the title?

      Good thing it's not at the beginning, otherwise it wouldn't have shown up.

    2. Re:Holy Crap! by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      ls /. -Fail

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    3. Re:Holy Crap! by Gordonjcp · · Score: 4, Funny

      Only until the dupe shows up.

    4. Re:Holy Crap! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Can anyone tell me why we are able to moderate each other's comments"

      So retardedly stupid flamebait ones like yours can get moderated as such?

    5. Re:Holy Crap! by jc42 · · Score: 1

      Hmmm ... that period doesn't show up on my screen. Does this mean that my browser (SeaMonkey) is broken? Should I file a bug report?

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  2. Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by Per+Abrahamsen · · Score: 3, Insightful

    It would be so much more in the spirit of Douglas Adams.

    1. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by Auraiken · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or rename ALL the streets to "DON'T PANIC". I think that might be more like him. xD

    2. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be so much more in the spirit of Douglas Adams. Hilarity ensues in the winter, when snow collecting on the bottom half of the street signs causes them to appear to say "Go stick your head in a pig" in the local Native American language.
    3. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by Martian_Kyo · · Score: 1

      Agreed!

      Where are you now?
      Don't panic!
      I am not panicking, I am just asking where are you now?
      Don't panic!
      Look...i am not panicking...
      and so on and so on

    4. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by MiniMike · · Score: 2, Funny

      Better yet they rename it "DON'T WALK" - I can already see the crowds lined up on every corner, just waiting...

      Of course, there would still be plenty of people crossing in the middle of the block (maybe looking for a telephone to clean...).

    5. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny
      You haven't seen Portland's traffic - it's more appropriate than you think ;)

      /P

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    6. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by cskrat · · Score: 1

      Yes, the one-way streets downtown are laid out in a manner that ensures that you'll never be able to make a left hand turn where you need to. And the surface streets are confusing enough that it takes several hours of exploration in order to get back on the interstate traveling towards wherever you came from. Often times it's best to just travel north until you can turn around at Jantzen Beach if you intend to go south or south until you get to the Lake Oswego area if you intend to go north.

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    7. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by Penguinisto · · Score: 1
      True, true... and let us not forget that recent construction only adds to the fun.

      (...and yet my wife still looks at me funny when I say that I really don't feel like going down there for anything... maybe I'll make her drive it next time).

      /P

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    8. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by cskrat · · Score: 1

      I suppose I should say something nice about travel downtown while I'm here. If you park at a MAX station in one of the less crowded sectors of the city then you can pretty easily hit a lot of the more interesting areas via lightrail and foot. That's what I usually do whenever I head downtown.

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    9. Re:Rename the streat to "DON'T PANIC" instead by DiEx-15 · · Score: 1

      Or how about:

      1) "Mostly Harmless"
      2) "So Long And Thanks For All The Fish"
      3) "Arthur Dent"

  3. A better suggestion by fliptw · · Score: 5, Funny

    Call the intersection at 6th and 9th 42.

    1. Re:A better suggestion by Shooter_PA · · Score: 1

      42 - The answer to life, the universe, and everything. Portland? - The question. I should to Portland open a bar that serves Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters and recitations of the poetry of Paul Neil Milne Johnstone.

  4. If only... by lobiusmoop · · Score: 1, Redundant

    it was at the corner of 6th and 9th...

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    1. Re:If only... by PinkyDead · · Score: 2, Funny

      You will of course need a "TomTom" the size of a planet to find it.

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    2. Re:If only... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One small problem: 6th and 9th don't cross in Portland.

    3. Re:If only... by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      A TomTom the size of a planet! What, it'll tell you where you are relative to the centre of the galaxy; a line diagram, maybe, of the entire unimaginable infinity of the universe with a very tiny marker that says "You Are Here" on the front?

      Hmm, might not be such a bad idea; I know a Vogon construction company that'll do it for half a bajillion quatloons, if you're interested. We'll have to get rid of the Earth, but no great loss there, surely.

  5. Respect for the environment? by Osty · · Score: 1

    How does naming a street after a humor author have anything to do with the environment?

    1. Re:Respect for the environment? by kaos07 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Adams was pretty famous for his environmental activism, in particular campaigning on behalf of endangered species. There's more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Adams#Environmental_activism

      The point they're trying to make is that by renaming the street in his honour, they are both showing respect to the man and what he stood for.

    2. Re:Respect for the environment? by sopuli · · Score: 1

      They could hardly put in the proposal that they would like to rename the street because DNA was such a hoopy frood. So instead they probably figured that since he wrote "Last chance to see" they'd put in the bit about the environment.

    3. Re:Respect for the environment? by rucs_hack · · Score: 4, Informative


      For those who are interested, Douglas gave a lecture just a few weeks before his tragic demise. You can watch it here:

      http://webcast.ucsd.edu:8080/ramgen/UCSD_TV/5779UniCalSanBar.rm

      I've been a fan of douglas adams ever since I caught the very first broadcast of episode one of Hitch-hikers on the radio by pure, joyous chance.

      I was somewhat surprised in later years to realise that it was actually his factual work 'Last Chance to See' that was my favorite of all his works (thought the Dirk Gebtly books are a close second). I never much liked the h2G2 books, I prefer the radio play.

    4. Re:Respect for the environment? by achtzwerge · · Score: 2, Informative

      The irony is, his last speech had the title "Last Chance To See"

      Having read most of his books, I wish he was still around

    5. Re:Respect for the environment? by Tim+Browse · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I was somewhat surprised in later years to realise that it was actually his factual work 'Last Chance to See' that was my favorite of all his works

      It was his favourite, too.

    6. Re:Respect for the environment? by JCSoRocks · · Score: 1

      And pissing off every poor sod that actually lives on that street. I don't understand the obsession with renaming streets. If the people are famous enough to warrant it, then clearly, most everyone already knows who they are and you aren't really accomplishing anything by naming a street after them anyway.

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    7. Re:Respect for the environment? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... on radio by pure, joyous chance.

      Did you later come to realize you were subject to the actions of the Infinite Improbability Drive?

      Whatever you do, DON'T PANIC! Perhaps you should lay down.

    8. Re:Respect for the environment? by LrdDimwit · · Score: 1

      So long, and thanks for all the fish, Mr. Adams. You will be missed.

    9. Re:Respect for the environment? by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      So long, and thanks for all the fish, Mr. Adams. You shall continue to be missed.

      Fixed.
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  6. In my city... by SetupWeasel · · Score: 4, Funny

    All streets will be named Douglas Adams. Only the hoopiest of froods will manage to find their way.

    1. Re:In my city... by w3c.org · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh, that would be ok. Just follow someone who knows where he's going.

    2. Re:In my city... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Kind of like German cities where half of the streets are named "Einbahnstraße" and there are directions to it everwhere!

    3. Re:In my city... by proverbialcow · · Score: 1

      You'll never arrive where you wanted to go, but you'll find you always end up where you needed to be.

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    4. Re:In my city... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's nothing compared to the number of towns in Germany named Ausfahrt.

    5. Re:In my city... by ross.w · · Score: 1

      Seems to be a street name that upsets people too. Always, the oncoming cars are full of people sounding horns and screaming abuse.

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      If my call is important, why am I talking to a recording?
    6. Re:In my city... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or like here in Montreal where all bridges are named "Pont", and Montreal being an island, their is a LOT of "Pont / Bridge" (+ directional arrow).

      "Just take a left after the Pont bridge."

  7. In next weeks news... by Tastecicles · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...another group has started preliminary paperwork to have 23rd renamed "Illuminatus", and a Prostitute Action Group are to rename 68th "We'll Owe You One".

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    Operation Guillotine is in effect.
  8. Doh! Flanders! by CranberryKing · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually Matt Groening is from Portland,OR and many of the Simpsons character are named after streets in Portland.

    1. Re:Doh! Flanders! by clickety6 · · Score: 3, Funny


      As a former resident of Portland, I can confirm this is true.

      I was born at 2727 Comic Book Guy Avenue but we moved to 1634 Nahasapeemapetilon Street when I was about 5.

      Some characters are even named after the local nicknames for streets.

      The area where the down and outs hang out were obviously called Itchy Way and Scratchy Street.

      And the nickname for the road with the local gynecological clinic gave us the name for Springfield's mayor.

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    2. Re:Doh! Flanders! by pipingguy · · Score: 1

      Except for most of the family members, who were named after Groening's real-life family. "Homer", his real father, is from Saskatchewan. That explains a lot.

  9. Bad link by EvanED · · Score: 5, Informative

    I would strongly recommend not clicking that.

    1. Re:Bad link by Al_Lapalme · · Score: 1

      Arrrhhhh! Why did you post that??? I wouldn't even have looked at his link, had it not been for your comment. After reading your warning, I just had to... Seriously folks, don't click that link.

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      Al
    2. Re:Bad link by hey0you0guy · · Score: 1

      Someone actually tried to read the article? Is this Slashdot?

  10. NOT WORK SAFE by Almahtar · · Score: 2, Informative

    The link above got blocked by my stuff, but very little research reveals it's something you don't want to click on anywhere, especially not work.

    1. Re:NOT WORK SAFE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't clicked it, but looking at the link's http address I don't understand how it could be a bad troll link?

      What am I missing?

    2. Re:NOT WORK SAFE by FredDC · · Score: 1

      It's abusing google's "I feel lucky" functionality to send you to some inappropriate site like goatse. I've no idea which one this is, and don't care to find out either...

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    3. Re:NOT WORK SAFE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It fucks up your browser and makes you force to kill the person who posted it!

    4. Re:NOT WORK SAFE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, thanks :) I was wondering, but I wasn't going to ignore a good warning to find out.

      (I've managed to exist for years on the net without ever having encountered goatse or any of the other shocksites. Caution has saved me from irrevocable brain-pollution).

    5. Re:NOT WORK SAFE by MadKeithV · · Score: 1

      It's a link to a google search for a specific term (contactlog) where the first hit is automatically opened, and links to a very unsafe site.

    6. Re:NOT WORK SAFE by Carbon016 · · Score: 1

      DON'T PANIC!

    7. Re:NOT WORK SAFE by xtracto · · Score: 1

      lol, not work safe indeed.

      The link makes my Firefox crash in Linux. However Opera did open the link (with javascript/java and images disables) and it is a GNAA last measure web page with grotuesque pictures.

      You can get an index of the available pictures (a la "index of/") here. But BEWARE: THEY ARE VERY GROTESQUE AND NOT SAFE FOR WORK, they include goatse man, tubgirl and other wonders of the GNAA.

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    8. Re:NOT WORK SAFE by Neil+Hodges · · Score: 1

      It looks like NoScript saved me once again, since I also use Firefox on Linux. I wonder if Opera would be okay with JavaScript enabled on that site...

  11. I Am Against This... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Troll

    I don't even live in Portland and I am against this kind of tomfoolery. I can imagine that Portland is like my city, which is not unlike any American city in this regard...

    As my city was settled and grew, the consusion over street names grew as well... name conflicts with avenue, place, etc.. similar sounding names, etc. A number of comissions were formed, which worked very hard with the outlying suburbs to come to agreement on standard street names. To resolve all of the confusion and come up with a logical system.

    That has all since changed with the partial renaming of streets in the inner city to honor a plethoria of people. The problem is compounded when it goes from numbered streets (5th, 6th, 7th) to a name like César Chávez. It's not even whole streets but rather a few blocks here and there! Such tomfoolery adds confusion not only to those who live with it, but visitors as well.

    You might love Douglas Adams but your grandchildren will curse you.

    1. Re:I Am Against This... by Silver+Sloth · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Boring, boring, boring.....

      The metropolis of London has no numbered streets, no grid system and numerous name conflicts - the number of 'High Streets' is - if I remember correctly - in excess of 50 and we Brits manage fine. And how can you live in a town which hasn't, at some point in its history, featured a 'Gropecunt Lane'.

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    2. Re:I Am Against This... by FredDC · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I live in Europe, and we have had names for our streets since... Well, since the streets were placed there. And I can tell you that we're not hopelessly getting lost all the time. The human brain is quite capable of linking names to places...

      Naming a street after someone is a great tribute to that person, and in my book Douglas Adams deserves to have more than 1 street named after him. 42 of them in fact!

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    3. Re:I Am Against This... by Xiaran · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If any street in London is to be renamed it must be in Islington. As a resident of the area DNA used to live Id suggest one of the side streets off upper street... maybe near Hotbalck Desiatos(for those that dont know thats a real estate agent... the real estate agent came first). How does one get the ball rolling on renaming a street in London? Id be up for a petition or whatever. Actually Ive come over quite serious all of a sudden. If anywhere has a street named after Douglas then it should be in Islington. If anyone has any ideas please mail be at kilgoretrout11235@yahoo.com

      Oh and did you know threadneedle st used to be a gropecune lane?

    4. Re:I Am Against This... by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      I live in Europe, and we have had names for our streets since... Well, since the streets were placed there. And I can tell you that we're not hopelessly getting lost all the time. The human brain is quite capable of linking names to places... The human brain is, however the grid system is rather handy. For example "4242 Don't Panic St. South". Odds are it's 42 blocks south of city center, with the nearest cross street being 42nd. No grid system is perfect, there are almost always hills, ravines, rivers, lakes, junk in the way.

      One can learn the streets of a city, but an intelligent syntax and order are there to help out those who are not so intimately familiar with your city. A good layout a person without a map can establish direction of travel and ever be hopelessly lost, well for the most part.

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    5. Re:I Am Against This... by JoshJ · · Score: 1

      There are several streets in Atlanta with "Peachtree" as part of their name (not all of which are listed here), including Peachtree Creek Road, Peachtree Lane, Peachtree Avenue, Peachtree Circle, Peachtree Drive, Peachtree Plaza, Peachtree Way, Peachtree Memorial Drive, New Peachtree Road, Peachtree Walk, and Peachtree Valley Road. West Peachtree Street is not the western branch of Peachtree Street, but a major parallel north-south street located one block west of Peachtree Street running through Midtown. Others include Peachtree Battle Avenue, commemorating the Battle of Peachtree Creek, Peachtree-Dunwoody Road running between Peachtree Street and Dunwoody, Georgia, and Old Peachtree Road, which traces part of the route of the original Peachtree Trail for which the road is named. Some of these streets intersect with Peachtree Street, others are extensions of it, and some are nowhere near it.

      Good enough?

    6. Re:I Am Against This... by cheater512 · · Score: 1

      I hear the gridlock is fun too with a grid system. :)

    7. Re:I Am Against This... by ettlz · · Score: 1

      And how can you live in a town which hasn't, at some point in its history, featured a 'Gropecunt Lane'.
      Is that near Shepherd's Bush?
    8. Re:I Am Against This... by jrumney · · Score: 1

      Are there different streets in different parts of the city that are all called Peachtree Street (or Road, or whatever, the important thing is that they are exactly the same)? Is there a Gropecunt Lane? If the answer to these questions is no, then thank you for playing, better luck next time.

    9. Re:I Am Against This... by xaxa · · Score: 1

      And how can you live in a town which hasn't, at some point in its history, featured a 'Gropecunt Lane'.
      Is that near Shepherd's Bush? Shepherd's Bush is in west London.

      'Gropecunt Lane', now Threadneedle Street, is in the City of London (the area of the ancient city of London). The Bank of England is on Threadneedle Street.

      About 20 minutes on the Central Line (London Underground, i.e. subway train) will get you from one to the other.
    10. Re:I Am Against This... by Xiaran · · Score: 1

      The story I heard was that gropecunt lane was a generic term appied at one point all over the country. Not just threadneedle(tho thats the most famous). The only remaining one left is in Kent and has been change to just be grope lane.

    11. Re:I Am Against This... by jrumney · · Score: 1

      The metropolis of London has no numbered streets.

      Try telling that to the residents of 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th Avenues, E12. Or 1st, 2nd and 3rd Avenue, W10, E17, W3, RM10, EN1 and HA9, 1st and 2nd Avenue, SW14, E13, NW4....
    12. Re:I Am Against This... by ettlz · · Score: 1

      Well that'll teach me to lob cheap puns and innuendo around on Slashdot.

    13. Re:I Am Against This... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is your apostrophe key broken? Or are you just so unsure of the correct usage that you figured it'd be safer to just leave them all out?

    14. Re:I Am Against This... by prattle · · Score: 2, Insightful
      The metropolis of London has no numbered streets, no grid system and numerous name conflicts - the number of 'High Streets' is - if I remember correctly - in excess of 50 and we Brits manage fine.

      "Manage fine"? When the tube got bombed in 2005, the bookstores quickly ran out of A-Z books (detailed city map books) 'cause commuters couldn't find their way home without them.
      In a rational sort of city, the natives don't walk around with maps.

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    15. Re:I Am Against This... by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      I don't even live in Portland and I am against this kind of tomfoolery. I can imagine that Portland is like my city, which is not unlike any American city in this regard...

      Trust me... Portland is like no other American city (or any other human settlement for that matter) on the planet.

      It's kinda charming that way :)

      /P

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    16. Re:I Am Against This... by aegl · · Score: 1

      Try a search on google maps for "muirhouse drive, Edinburgh, Scotland". Sadly their map doesn't show the true horror as it fails to list the names of many of the small cul-de-sacs

    17. Re:I Am Against This... by Eevee · · Score: 1

      You'd love Arlington, Virinia then. There's a 19th Street North, 19th Road North, 19th Sreet South, and 19th Road South. Or there's 20th Street North, 20th Place North, and 20th Road North. And the best part is...these names all get used for multiple road segments that aren't connected. Or there's the spot where 20th Rd N runs into a T-intersection with...20th St. N and 21st St. N. That's right, a (small) stretch of road changes name in the middle!

    18. Re:I Am Against This... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "If any street in London is to be renamed it must be in Islington. As a resident of the area DNA used to live Id suggest one of the side streets off upper street"

      I used to live on Barnsbury Street (off Upper Street). I once found a book on the history of Islington and discovered that in the 18th Century Barnsbury Street was actually named 'Cut-throat Alley'. Now there is a name worth getting reinstated!

      I also did Douglas Adams' tour of Islington twice. He was a very funny and interesting man.

    19. Re:I Am Against This... by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      I live in Europe, and we have had names for our streets since... Well, since the streets were placed there. And I can tell you that we're not hopelessly getting lost all the time. The human brain is quite capable of linking names to places... The human brain is, however the grid system is rather handy. For example "4242 Don't Panic St. South". Odds are it's 42 blocks south of city center, with the nearest cross street being 42nd. No grid system is perfect, there are almost always hills, ravines, rivers, lakes, junk in the way.

      One can learn the streets of a city, but an intelligent syntax and order are there to help out those who are not so intimately familiar with your city. A good layout a person without a map can establish direction of travel and ever be hopelessly lost, well for the most part. So now all we have to do is to raze all the messy European cities built along those twisting centuries (or millenia) old roads and ways and rebuild them along neat grids.

      No reason why it shouldn't work. :)

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    20. Re:I Am Against This... by zakezuke · · Score: 1

      So now all we have to do is to raze all the messy European cities built along those twisting centuries (or millenia) old roads and ways and rebuild them along neat grids.

      No reason why it shouldn't work. :) Sigh...

      No one is proposing that Europe tear up their cities and replace them. I can't say that American cities are immune to generalized unplanned quarks of travel.

      I am saying that the grid system, as in the first two digits of an address which correspond to house number, the rest the block number, is very handy. Proper, or at least consistent use of the words Avenue, Boulevard, Court, Drive, Road, Lane, Way is also very handy. I'm looking at a map of Liverpool and notice whether a road travels east-west, north-south, or diagonally it's usually named a street.

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    21. Re:I Am Against This... by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      Proper, or at least consistent use of the words Avenue, Boulevard, Court, Drive, Road, Lane, Way is also very handy. I'm looking at a map of Liverpool and notice whether a road travels east-west, north-south, or diagonally it's usually named a street. Sounds pretty consistent to me ;)

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    22. Re:I Am Against This... by El_Oscuro · · Score: 1

      Especially GW parkway from the Pentagon to Rosslyn. It is almost impossible to stay on it without accidentally winding up the wrong way going to Great Falls or Washington. But nothing compares to Fairfax county. In Fairfax county, I think the address and street naming system is used as a source of Brownian Motion for the Infinite Improbability Drive.

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  12. They need something else by VincenzoRomano · · Score: 1

    There should be also a marble and bronze monument to either DNA or to the Answer.
    We'd need to do this in every civilised city of the Universe.

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    1. Re:They need something else by FredDC · · Score: 4, Funny

      We'd need to do this in every civilised city of the Universe.
      Let us know when you find one, ok?
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    2. Re:They need something else by petes_PoV · · Score: 1
      We'd need to do this in every civilised city of the Universe

      We already have earthman. It's just that none of them are on your planet

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  13. Good for business by denzacar · · Score: 3, Funny

    I can see business booming in that street if renamed.

    Restaurants, holistic detective agencies, sandwich stands, towel and fish shops...

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    1. Re:Good for business by Fizzl · · Score: 1, Funny

      towel and fish shops...

      I've heard about fish'n'chips, but this is something completely different!
    2. Re:Good for business by laejoh · · Score: 0

      I still remember the British wrapping their chips in a newspaper. So nowadays it's a towel?

    3. Re:Good for business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I still remember the British wrapping their chips in a newspaper. So nowadays it's a towel? The chips (and fish) are wrapped in greaseproof and brown paper. The newspapers are only used as insulation on the outside to keep things warm on the way home.
    4. Re:Good for business by GospelHead821 · · Score: 1

      You say this as a joke, but if somebody opened up "Arthur's Sandwiches" on 42nd Street in Portland, I'd plan a vacation around it. I'm already planning a vacation to Philadelphia sometime to eat a $100 cheese steak sandwich. As a sandwich enthusiast AND a fan of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, that would make a great vacation!

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    5. Re:Good for business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unfortunately there will only be room for at most two restaurants: a burger bar at the beginning and a very fancy reservations-required joint at the end.

    6. Re:Good for business by Klingonjester · · Score: 1

      The Moon and Sixpence Pub on NE42nd should do a bang up business selling pints of bitters and bags of peanuts. If they expanded their wares to towels as well they could make a killing in the last seven minutes prior to the new by-pass.

  14. So... by morgdx · · Score: 2, Funny

    So that's where I left my towel.

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  15. good bye, and thanks for the fish by someone1234 · · Score: 1

    Look this up, grasshopper.

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    1. Re:good bye, and thanks for the fish by FuzzyDaddy · · Score: 1
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  16. Spelling differences by youthoftoday · · Score: 5, Funny

    No doubt being in America they're going to try and call it Doglas Adams or some other such vowel-mangling.

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    1. Re:Spelling differences by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, my name is Douglas, you insensitive clod!

    2. Re:Spelling differences by Tim+Browse · · Score: 3, Funny

      No, Americans would call it Doug Adams. After all, that's what they always seemed to call the man, no matter how much he hated it.

    3. Re:Spelling differences by rhenley · · Score: 1

      That's Dugless, you neanderthal...uh, niandurthul.

    4. Re:Spelling differences by operagost · · Score: 1

      Youe Briytes suiree diou louvee youir voiweils!

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    5. Re:Spelling differences by RealGrouchy · · Score: 1

      No doubt being in America they're going to try and call it Doglas Adams or some other such vowel-mangling. At least they'll be able to fit it onto the sign, which is more than could be said of the Welsh attempt to rename a street after him!

      - RG>
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    6. Re:Spelling differences by youthoftoday · · Score: 1

      No, that wouldn't be an issue. The Welsh have a long history of long names. They've developed the technology to do it.

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  17. renaming is retarded by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The renamers have no respect for people and businesses already living and doing business on those streets.

    Let them propose the name for NEW streets.

  18. Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by sethawoolley · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I live on 34th and NE Stanton, just 8 blocks (20 blocks per mile in Portland, so .4 miles away), and AS a resident, I HEAVILY support this measure. I used to work on 42nd and Broadway and am involved in the local business community there.

    I'm also an atheist and an environmentalist, as are most of the people here. Well, there are a lot of lesbians, too, at least according to the Census Bureau factfinder website (I have no idea how they found that out, but it's true, for I bought my house from a couple).

    It actually came up because the Hispanic community wanted to rename Interstate Ave after Cesar Chavez (since Union was renamed MLK), which the people on Interstate thought was dumb, so it met with heavy public protest. The Mayor and Council were all for it, and then the public found out.

    Since 42nd is a kind of major street, it would be very cool to have it renamed after Douglas Adams! We could open a Don't Panic Coffee Shop (or electronic gadget store).

    I think the only major complaint would come from "42nd Street Station", a little mini-mall just off Sandy Blvd that would probably have to change their name!

    It just needs some money to pay for paperwork, so please, donate!

    1. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 1

      I'm also an atheist and an environmentalist, as are most of the people here. Well, there are a lot of lesbians, too, at least according to the Census Bureau factfinder website (I have no idea how they found that out, but it's true, for I bought my house from a couple).

      OK, for those of us trying to follow along at home, WTF does any of that have to do with the subject at hand? I'm a straight Christian evil conservative and I also like DNA and would vote to name a street after him.

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    2. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by onemorechip · · Score: 1

      Well, maybe a restaurant in the mini-mall could capitalize by renaming themselves "The Restaurant at the End of the Universe". (BTW Griffith Observatory in LA has a "Cafe at the End of the Universe".)

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    3. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by Anonymous+Freak · · Score: 1

      What's bad is that it wasn't "the Hispanic community" that tried to have Interstate renamed, it was mostly our illustrious mayor. (Ironically, our current mayor's governing style reminds me of another man with the last name Chavez.) Yes, I'm sure there was at least one person of Hisapnic descent involved, but this wasn't a citizen-started renaming the way MLK, Rosa Parks Way, or Douglas Adams Boulevard are.

      As for "42nd Street Station"? Why would they have to change their name? It's already inaccurate as it is. (It's "42nd Avenue", not "42nd Street".)

      My thought was that one of the small one-or-two block long streets in the Hollywood district right next to 42nd Ave (like, say, the small alley that is 41st Place,) should be renamed "The Universe", that way someone can start a small deli in the old Fred Meyer building, and name it "The Restaurant at the end of The Universe". :-p

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    4. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by Seumas · · Score: 1

      I'm so damn glad this finally made it to Slashdot! Very cool!

      It should be pointed out that the Aaron Duran (the main guy behind the project) is going about this street renaming the proper way. He is raising money for the $1,000 fee, filling out the paper work, seeking support of Douglas Adams' surviving family, seeking comment from local public and businesses. Meanwhile, the Cesar Chavez rename was being ramrodded through by the city council without any of the necessary legal bureaucracy. I can see why some people might not like the idea of renaming a street after Cesar Chavez, but I think the main problem a lot of people had with it is not the idea, but the way it was being pursued.

      It should also be noted that should the rename fail, the money donated to the effort will be re-directed to a fund for saving Rhinos (which Adams was a big fan of).

      As a native Portlander, I truly hope this succeeds. If any city embraces his mentality and his work, it has to be Portland. Even though some business guy commented in a news article about the difference between renaming a street after "galaxies and space and stuff" and suggesting that Douglas Adams was not a real person. Seriously . . . WTF?

      If you're interested in keeping informed, there's also a MySpace page for the effort:

      http://www.myspace.com/rename42nd

    5. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I live in Portland too, but I am neither an atheist, an environmentalist, nor a lesbian. Nor is anyone I associate with. In my experience people associate with others who are like them and so they assume that everyone else must be like them as well. So, I think when the parent says "as are most people here" he/she means "as are most people I associate with".

    6. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      I think the only major complaint would come from "42nd Street Station", a little mini-mall just off Sandy Blvd that would probably have to change their name!

      Err, why would they have to? ;)

      /P

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    7. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by barkingcorndog · · Score: 1

      I think the only major complaint would come from "42nd Street Station", a little mini-mall just off Sandy Blvd that would probably have to change their name!
      42nd Street Station shouldn't have to change their name. After all, Belmont Station is on Stark now.
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    8. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by barkingcorndog · · Score: 2, Informative

      My thought was that one of the small one-or-two block long streets in the Hollywood district right next to 42nd Ave (like, say, the small alley that is 41st Place,) should be renamed "The Universe", that way someone can start a small deli in the old Fred Meyer building, and name it "The Restaurant at the end of The Universe". :-p There already is a Pub at the End of the Universe
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    9. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by sethawoolley · · Score: 1

      You're free to move away whenever you want to. Do you live in my hood? Probably not.

    10. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by MachineShedFred · · Score: 1

      What's odd, is on SE Gladstone St, there's a whole bunch of $ESTABLISHMENT At the End of the Universe places. Here's a couple addresses to look at on Google StreetView:

      3304 SE Gladstone St. Portland OR - The Shop at the End of the Universe
      SE 28th and SE Gladstone St. Portland OR - The Pub at the End of the Universe

      So either SE Gladstone St. is the end of the universe (meaning that Reed College is off the edge, but we already knew that), or there's something else going on.

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    11. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hrmmm? You said something about lesbians? I heard it, just now "Blah blah blah town-full-of-lesbians."

      So what happens next?

    12. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by ehlo · · Score: 0

      Since 42nd is a kind of major street, it would be very cool to have it renamed after Douglas Adams! We could open a Don't Panic Coffee Shop (or electronic gadget store).

      Or, A Restaurant At The End Of The Universe.
      Or, even cooler, a Bar At The End Of The Universe, the signiature drink being a Pan-Galactic Gargle Blaste.
    13. Re:Well, I AM from Portland, and it's in my hood by dangitman · · Score: 1

      We could open a Don't Panic Coffee Shop (or electronic gadget store).

      No, it should be a towel store.

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  20. I get dibs... by rodney+dill · · Score: 1

    ... on the towel store on that street.

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  21. Of course, by SinVulture · · Score: 5, Funny

    One of the many changes involved in the paperwork is actually that a residential area will be bulldozed to make way for a highway overpass to the new Douglas Adams Avenue.

  22. Street numbers maybe boring but... by zubernerd · · Score: 1

    Street numbers maybe boring, but as the parent stated

    ... adds confusion not only to those who live with it, but visitors as well

    If I'm visiting a city using a street numbering system that is consistent, I find it is easier to get around. That is, let's say I'm going up 22ND AVE, and I just passed 45TH ST, there is a damn good chance that the next street is 46TH ST (or 44TH depending on the direction of the numbers) without having to constantly look at a map to know which street is next.

    And yes, if you are a long time resident of a city, you can get around just fine without numbered streets, but you could probably get around with streets labeled with pictograms or hieroglyphs, or unnamed streets, but damn, a visitor or a new resident would have a hard time getting around.

    I lived in a city with a fairly logical street numbering system for a long time, and I still found it convenient even after living there a while.

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    1. Re:Street numbers maybe boring but... by kitgerrits · · Score: 1


      Numerical street names may make sense in your city, but not this may not always be the case.
      Not all cities have rectangular blocks of buildings.
      Worse, Amsterdam (where I live) is mainly circular in nature.
      There is exactly one set of numbered streets, which are simply named in order of appearance when you travel across the highway around Amsterdam. (S101 - S118, starting at the northwest river Amstel and going up counter-clockwise)

      What if there is a fork in the road?
      Will it become 42.5th street?

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    2. Re:Street numbers maybe boring but... by Neil+Hodges · · Score: 1

      If it's forked, the street will either be given the next free number (Street ID) in the city, or be called 45-NG.

  23. Public acceptance of atheism by acb · · Score: 1

    I read that, even now, a majority of Americans would not be willing to accept an atheist holding public office. Would they be willing to name a street after an outspoken atheist?

    1. Re:Public acceptance of atheism by sethawoolley · · Score: 1

      They would where I live! Just 0.4 miles from 42nd! I used to work as the sysadmin at the largest (I think) employer on 42nd. We also legalized gay marriage until the courts overturned it. You have to understand, here we have the second highest circulating library in the country, more bookstores per capita than anywhere in the world, the largest book store in the world (size of a city block) and a 14% vote for Bush rate county-wide in the last election. I'm sure now that number's even lower. Check out: http://www.unitedstatesatheists.com/ Based out of Portland.

    2. Re:Public acceptance of atheism by mamono · · Score: 1

      Also, the highest number of strip clubs per capita in the country.

    3. Re:Public acceptance of atheism by kchrist · · Score: 1

      And I hear Cingular bought their new slogan "More bars in more places" from the city of Portland.

  24. My judgement by PietjeJantje · · Score: 3, Funny

    Using Dirk Gently's I Ching Calculator (please do follow the instructions), I came to the following conclusion regarding renaming the street:

    THE JUDGEMENT OF KING WEN:

    28. EXTREME OVERLOAD
    The Environment Is Demand Temporarily Load With Many Events, Ideas And Situations, Which Your Consideration. You/They May Fight In Your Attempt, To Solve Problems. If Problems Is Not Bothered From Misunderstanding And Lack At Assessment By Other At Your Attempts, To Solve. If Your Poise Maintain Will Help You, To Follow. Do Not Use Powerful Methods. His Flexible And Prepare You For Fast Passages.

    THE COMMENTARY OF THE DUKE OF CHOU:
    Line 2: With The Right Companions, You Can Reach Almost Everything

    1. Re:My judgement by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      28. EXTREME OVERLOAD

      Cripes, man! That's the I-Ching for 42nd in Portland? Stop by there at 8am on a weeksday sometime... that's not prophesy, it's observation!

      /P

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  25. 42 ?? by PermanentMarker · · Score: 1

    When asked why 42th street, the computer answered:

    "I think the problem is that the question was too broadly based..."
    "Forty two?!" yelled Loonquawl. "Is that all you've got to show for seven and a half million years' work?"

    "I checked it very thoroughly," said the computer, "and that quite definitely is the answer. I think the problem, to be quite honest with you, is that you've never actually known what the question is."

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  26. Gladstone Street shirley a better choice? by threaded · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Why not rename Gladstone Street, it already has The Pub at the End of the Universe. http://portland.citysearch.com/profile/11495658/portland_or/pub_at_the_end_of_the_universe.html

    1. Re:Gladstone Street shirley a better choice? by tholomyes · · Score: 1

      As well as the Shop at the End of the Universe, a few blocks down, but I don't know if that place is ever actually open. I'm two blocks down from that pub, though, it's got a lot of nice quiet nooks to do some writing in and an ever-changing selection of good ales.

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    2. Re:Gladstone Street shirley a better choice? by emurphy42 · · Score: 1

      While we're on that particular snowclone, Griffith Observatory has the Cafe at the End of the Universe.

  27. In the spirit of "keep Portland Weird" by LM741N · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I would rename a street after Aleister Crowley

    1. Re:In the spirit of "keep Portland Weird" by kchrist · · Score: 1

      That would be 93rd st, then?

  28. And not ... by TaoPhoenix · · Score: 1

    "No, it's not DougDoug, it's TomTom".

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  29. What about... by gandhi_2 · · Score: 1

    intellectual property? Can you really start coffee shops et al. named DON'T PANIC that serve the Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster without being sued by the IP holders?

    1. Re:What about... by Xiaran · · Score: 1

      The pubs around Angel and Islington used to have a thing called the Dont Panic kit. It was an envelope for of flyers and vouchers for stuff in the Angel area. Ive no idea weather they got permission or not but the lettering on the envelope was very reminiscent of the letter on the UK version of the original HHGTTG.

    2. Re:What about... by RoverDaddy · · Score: 1

      I'd expect to find a Pan Galactic Gargle Blaster at a pub, not a coffee shop, unless you're guessing the active ingredient of the PGGB is caffeine?

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  30. Portland, Oregon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bunch of goddamn stoners.

    1. Re:Portland, Oregon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better than a bunch of God Fearing fundamentalists.

    2. Re:Portland, Oregon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better than a bunch of God Fearing fundamentalists.

      Portland's got those too, boyo.

      Actually, Portland is the last of the major West Coast port cities that hasn't been taken over by poseurs and uptight white assholes.

      Portland's still a nice town to have beer in.

      And Oregon always produced the best dope.

    3. Re:Portland, OREGON by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Bunch of goddamn stoners.

      What bugs me is people always just call it "Portland" - they feel no need to disambiguate.

      "Portland", as far as I'm concerned, is in Maine... Nice of Oregon to name their city after it, though.
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    4. Re:Portland, OREGON by faedle · · Score: 1

      Portland, Maine: population 63,882. While the biggest city in Maine, and probably a regional economic center, not a major city.

      Portland, Oregon: population 537,081, with a metro population exceeding 2 million. Third largest city in the Pacific Northwest. Significant shipping port for grain and lumber. Home of the NBA's "Trailblazers" professional basketball club. Considered a pioneer in aggressive urban planning and transit-friendly development.

      We might have been named for Portland, Maine.. but we've grown a little since the 1850's.

    5. Re:Portland, OREGON by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      Portland, Maine: population 63,882

      Portland, Oregon: population 537,081 Nevertheless, a little disambiguation would be nice. When the headline has no mention of what Portland you're talking about, and I have to dig around in the article to find out which Portland they're talking about - it's a bit annoying, you know?
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    6. Re:Portland, OREGON by faedle · · Score: 1

      There's more than one city named San Francisco, yet nobody ever needs "disambiguation" there. Nobody ever hears the words "San Francisco" and immediately thinks of "San Francisco, New Mexico."

    7. Re:Portland, OREGON by Tetsujin · · Score: 1

      There's more than one city named San Francisco, yet nobody ever needs "disambiguation" there. Nobody ever hears the words "San Francisco" and immediately thinks of "San Francisco, New Mexico." And, oddly enough, when I hear "Portland" I immediately think of "Portland, Maine" - so somehow that assertion doesn't apply to "Portland"...
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    8. Re:Portland, OREGON by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They don't normally just say "Portland". Every US airport calls it Portland, OR. The people I've spoken to call it Portland, Oregon. They seem prouder of the Oregon part.

    9. Re:Portland, OREGON by brassman · · Score: 1

      Two guys from the East Coast were trying to decide whether to name the town "Portland" or "Boston," and the Portland (Maine) native won the coin toss. True story!

      Ticks me off a bit that when I'm setting my time zone these days that it lists a bunch of cities instead of a nice simple old PST7PDT, and more so that I have to settle for "Los Angeles" instead of "Portland" -- but at least the weather widget for the OS X desktop knows Portland is in Oregon.

      P.S. - Apizza Scholls rocks our world, but the roasted veggie plate at Ken's Artisan Pizza is damn fine, too.

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  31. YOU LEFT YOUR TOWEL!?! by GameboyRMH · · Score: 1

    Don't leave home without your towel!!! :O

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  32. MLK by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

    The irony of the number of MLK streets (roughly 1 per any city of size in the US) is that, if MLK himself was terribly serious about the faith he proclaimed as a Baptist minister (and all the evidence seems to indicate that) he might be more than a tiny bit embarrassed at all the attention lavished on him, rather than the Christ.
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    1. Re:MLK by El+Yanqui · · Score: 1

      That and the fact, as Chris Rock pointed out, those streets are always in the shittiest part of town. Kind of a dubious "honour" really.

      I used to live pretty close to MLK Way in Seattle and can verify it wasn't a nice place.

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    2. Re:MLK by Mantaar · · Score: 1

      Somoene makes a joke about Martin Luther King being a pointer to Jesus Christ and I laugh about it.

      Holy shit, I'm brain damaged, now I know it.

      Thanks for the laugh, Mister, appreciated.

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    3. Re:MLK by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      I graduated from Franklin High School down there, actually.
      This experience helped me to understand that education is something you pursue on your own.
      Really can't rely on the state to do more than provide a few basics.

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    4. Re:MLK by smittyoneeach · · Score: 1

      Wasn't really intended as a joke.
      By the same token, there is massive irony in the notion that the "Bible Belt" portion of the US has shown some massive evidence of racism, for all that racism and the New Testament are antithetical.

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    5. Re:MLK by hey! · · Score: 2, Funny

      Somoene makes a joke about Martin Luther King being a pointer to Jesus Christ and I laugh about it.


      Hmm. Does that make your local MLK Blvd a handle to Jesus? It might be handy if you expect Jesus' address to change.
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  33. Towels by Faux_Pseudo · · Score: 1

    If they pull this off I might have to move there and open a towel shop with a pub next door.

  34. Re:A better suggestion (and a better calculation) by tobozo · · Score: 0

    As my digital calculator watch says, that would be the intersection at 6th and 7th.

  35. Another thing named after Addam's work : The Web by MrNatas · · Score: 1

    Think about it : I blurb on your blog about a wiki mashup No scam or spam, O google No phising nor pharming O youtube Only Boingo, and Linkedin and Jaiku For I am a good netizen All the web is already in Vogon's poetry.

  36. 42 by wile_e_wonka · · Score: 1
    For those of you who don't already know, try searching in Google:

    What is the answer to life, the universe, and everything? It will answer it just like it does math problems or conversions. :)
    1. Re:42 by BronsCon · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Try:

      answer to life, the universe, and everything * 2
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    2. Re:42 by lahvak · · Score: 1
      However, google gets this one wrong:

      answer to life, the universe, and everything / 9
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  37. Re:A better suggestion (and a better calculation) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  38. Priorities by goldspider · · Score: 1

    It's sure comforting know there are groups out there that are tackling important issues like this. Otherwise, I might be inclined to believe that people in this country have their priorities out of whack.

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  39. I just wanted to say... by NorthwestWolf · · Score: 1

    I love you more and more each day Portland!

    1. Re:I just wanted to say... by bobcat7677 · · Score: 1


      As a resident of the Portland area, I have to say all this street renaming non-sense is really getting on my nerves. It's well known that the only reason it's happening is that some local knotheads (AKA the mayor) wants to score some points with some special interest and/or ethnic groups...meanwhile totally pissing off everybody else in the general vicinity who rely on street names for basic things like oh say getting your mail and navigation. Literally millions in tax dollars and everyone's time is being totally wasted on this insanity while real problems like traffic congestion, storm damage, crime and such get shoved to the back burner.

    2. Re:I just wanted to say... by geekoid · · Score: 1

      "Literally millions in tax dollars "

      I think you mean

      "Literally thousands in tax dollars ..."

      It's not even close to 50 thousand dollars, much less 'millions'
      It's a stupid issue, but don't exaggerate the costs, it only leads to fuel the fire of ignorance people already have about government agencies.

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    3. Re:I just wanted to say... by filtur · · Score: 1

      Does the 50 thousand include costs to businesses?

      It's a big mess however you look at it. I think renaming parks and open spaces are far better ideas. It should be a non issue though, there's plenty of other things around here that really need to have money spent on them :)

    4. Re:I just wanted to say... by bobcat7677 · · Score: 1

      No, I mean millions. This isn't just about the cost of printing some new street signs. Just taking into account the salaries of public workers, lawyers, ect involved with the fiasco I'm sure the costs are running into the millions. But as another poster noted, the costs to businesses affected will also be large.

  40. Why do hippies move to Portland? by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For those who have never been in Portland, Oregon, we should explain that people are a little different here.

    Question: Why do hippies move to Portland? Answer: Because there are no jobs.

    The world's smallest park is here, and the world's largest bookstore.

    The spirit of Douglas Adams lives on in the body of Linus Torvalds, who lives in Portland, creating artistic chaos for commercial operating systems. Douglas Adams loved technical gizmos. "Douglas was a keen technologist, writing about such inventions as e-mail and Usenet before they became widely popular, or even widely known." Linus Torvalds makes technical gizmos happen.

    1. Re:Why do hippies move to Portland? by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Don't forget that we also have more strip clubs per capita than any other city (I think), an abundance of coffee shops, used bookstores, microbreweries, an attorney general that is fighting the RIAA, Reed College (where Steve Jobs attended), FreeGeek.org, Chuck Palahniuk, Bruce Campbell (not far from Portland) and geek pied-piper Rick Emerson. Also, I believe Randall Schwartz (of Perl and Intel persecution fame) lives here.

    2. Re:Why do hippies move to Portland? by Penguinisto · · Score: 1
      It's weirder than you think: One of the area's largest employers is... Intel's R&D arm.

      Scared yet? You should be.

      Microsoft and Seattle can have their stinkin' Starbucks, Grunge, and Pike Street Market. We got Voodoo Doughnuts and Saturday Market, bitches... >:)

      /P

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    3. Re:Why do hippies move to Portland? by cens0r · · Score: 1

      I've been to Voodoo Doughnuts, and while the maple and bacon doughnut was good, they aren't as good Top Pot Doughnuts. And I'd say that Pike Place Market beats the Saturday Market, due in large part to the fact it's open every day. If Portland is going to brag, I'd say it should include Apizza Scholls and Pok Pok. We have some good pizza in Seattle, but Apizza Scholls may be the best in the world, and I don't say that lightly. And while we have pretty good Thai food here (I like Thai Tom), it's not close to the level that Pok Pok is at.

      The funniest thing I've ever heard said about Portland is this (I believe it was Chuck Palahniuk, and I'm paraphrasing):
      The West Coast tends to attract the weirdest members of the population, those that don't fit in any where else. Portland being the cheapest of the major cities on the west coast tends to get the weirdest ones who can't afford the other cities.

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    4. Re:Why do hippies move to Portland? by treeves · · Score: 1

      Portland ranks number six among U.S. big cities in tax burden. Hippies love paying taxes, or at least they like someone to pay them.

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    5. Re:Why do hippies move to Portland? by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Portland is also fairly unfriendly to the small business person.

      But we do have perhaps the best public transit and light rail system in the country. I've found nothing like it elsewhere.

    6. Re:Why do hippies move to Portland? by treeves · · Score: 1

      In the US you mean, right?

      Portland is also rated very "green" and is an attractive city (partly because it's green in the literal sense as well - all that rain is good for something).

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    7. Re:Why do hippies move to Portland? by dangitman · · Score: 1

      Except that Torvalds is not a gifted comedic writer, and Douglas Adams was a Mac fanatic. I don't think the comparison holds water at all. Adams was all about using technology creatively, not creating the tools.

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  41. But wait by otis+wildflower · · Score: 1

    He's only been spending the past 6 years dead for tax reasons.. Imagine his shock when he comes back... /snif

  42. I can beat that... by Dirtside · · Score: 1

    ...we named our son after Douglas Adams. Well, one of our son's middle names is Douglas, anyway. About 80% of the people we explain this two have no idea who Douglas Adams is, which I think Adams would have appreciated.

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    1. Re:I can beat that... by SendBot · · Score: 1

      About 80% of the people we explain this two have no idea who Douglas Adams is, which I think Adams would have appreciated.

      Well said!

    2. Re:I can beat that... by Seumas · · Score: 1

      One of his middle names?!

      Jesus, how many names does the kid have?!

    3. Re:I can beat that... by Dirtside · · Score: 1

      Just two. ;) One after Douglas Adams, and one after my wife's (late) father. We figure that when he's older, if he decides he doesn't like going by his first name, he's got two others to pick from.

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  43. What was the question? by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

    What was the question? Seriously I didn't see one, I just saw 42 as the answer.

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    1. Re:What was the question? by ggvaidya · · Score: 1

      Maybe the question was, "Are we there yet?"

  44. Which Portland? by Mercano · · Score: 1

    Which Portland is this? Oregon, Maine, or some Portland in between? While not quite as common as Springfield, there are still a few of them.

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    1. Re:Which Portland? by Simonetta · · Score: 1

      This is the big Portland on the Pacific coast, the one that's 100 miles inland from an ocean. The decision to name the city Portland (as opposed to Boston) was decided by a coin toss in the 1850s. There's two Frankfort cities in Germany, and as you pointed out, many Springfields.

    2. Re:Which Portland? by faedle · · Score: 1

      The biggest one.

      There is more than one San Francisco, and nobody ever seems to get that wrong.

    3. Re:Which Portland? by bennomatic · · Score: 1
      And Portland, OR, is a quadrant city, so there's two 42nd Ave's, on the east and the west side of the river. And each of those is divided into north and south sections by Burnside...

      so are we talking about NE/SE 42nd, or NW/SW 42nd, or both, or maybe just 1/2 of one of those Avenues?

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    4. Re:Which Portland? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      That's because San Francisco is a huge thriving and beautiful city on the cultural and technological edge.
      Portland, Or. OTOH, isn't.

      Unless you count whiny bicyclists, one of the largest areas for pseudo science, and people who think it's alright to trample on people's freedoms in the names of some hippie ideal as an cultural plus.

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    5. Re:Which Portland? by tachyonflow · · Score: 2, Funny

      And Portland, OR, is a quadrant city, so there's two 42nd Ave's, on the east and the west side of the river. And each of those is divided into north and south sections by Burnside... so are we talking about NE/SE 42nd, or NW/SW 42nd, or both, or maybe just 1/2 of one of those Avenues?

      It's too bad there aren't any numbered avenues in N Portland, the fifth of Portland's increasingly inaccurately named quadrants...

    6. Re:Which Portland? by bennomatic · · Score: 1
      Actually, I think there are. I think there's North 1st through, like 3rd. I might be wrong, but I could swear I've seen a sign that matched /N \d/. but maybe I'm wrong.

      And yes, NoPo does belie the idea that it's a quadrant city, but it's kind of a wedge. I think of it as the 5th quadrant, kind of like the 5th Beatle. It's a defining feature of the city, but most people just know about the other four.

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    7. Re:Which Portland? by kchrist · · Score: 1

      I dunno, that sounds like a pretty good description of San Francisco as well. At least Portland is cleaner. And smells better. And more affordable. And populated by friendlier people.

      -- A resident of SF hoping to make the move to PDX someday.

    8. Re:Which Portland? by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      A good rule of thumb is "the one with the highest population." Although that doesn't apply when journalists talk refer to the Federal Government as "Washington."

      "There was a huge march in Washington over men's rights..." Oh really? I've been in Seattle all day and I didn't see-- oh the OTHER Washington!

    9. Re:Which Portland? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I hope you hopes are fullfield, but you may be disappointed it.

      Geek analogy:

      If San Francisco was Amber, then PDX would be many shadows away.

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    10. Re:Which Portland? by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      This is the big Portland on the Pacific coast, the one that's 100 miles inland from an ocean.

      True, but Portland, OR does have a thriving marine port, and the largest ship repair facility on the US West Coast.

      (it all comes up the Columbia River...)

      /P

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    11. Re:Which Portland? by kchrist · · Score: 1

      I'm afraid your analogy escapes me.

      But anyway, I'm not real concerned. I've got a number of friends there already, many of whom have moved there from other cities (including San Francisco), and am pretty sure I know what to expect.

    12. Re:Which Portland? by sethawoolley · · Score: 1

      San Francisco IS on the cultural edge -- the edge of tipping over. Nobody can live there anymore. Just rich snobs and lawyers.

      I lived on Russian Hill for a while, and, damn, I'd walk down to North Beach and it was like everybody wanted to live in the past. It sure has nothin' goin' for it now.

      And as far as technology. It's the peninsula and south bay that have all the big tech companies. Nobody pays for office space in SF anymore. Nobody could get funding.

      And beautiful? If you mean piss and garbage everywhere. Seriously, I'd walk down to Chinatown to catch the bus and, even as late as 10am, people were pissing in corners. The amount of homeless wandering the streets, too. You can't go anywhere without getting panhandled. Thriving?

      Right.

      And you think Portland is for pseudoscience? How? Trampling on freedoms for a hippie ideal? You mean they added a bike lane? What are you talking about?

      San Francisco is on one large downhill slide.

    13. Re:Which Portland? by sethawoolley · · Score: 1

      Sounds like you just need your wife to find a good job here and you're good to go :)

    14. Re:Which Portland? by kchrist · · Score: 1

      Indeed (and nice investigation skills, I might add). Unfortunately, that's a tall order. Not many companies in PDX can compete with Google, I'm afraid, so that good job up there may be a long way off.

    15. Re:Which Portland? by sethawoolley · · Score: 1

      From her blog it looks like all she does is fashion design and arts and crafts. Is she a graphic designer?

      As for Google, it's one of the last places I'd work, but I guess that's because I grew out of the college lifestyle some time ago ;)

      It's true, though, advertising companies do pay pretty well, though it's been my impression from people I know who work there that the pay isn't all that good, and that the "perks" kinda make up for it. So I haven't really been interested in working there for that reason as well. Plus the headquarters struck me as not very urban (I just moved back to Portland after some time in the bay area for work, and toured the Google campus). It wasn't all that convenient for truly biking around _outside_ of the main campus, and it's not very convenient to public transit. You really do have to rely on their private transit if you don't feel like driving a car.

      I bike around 9 miles a day no problem -- done it both in Portland and all over the bay area. I've done the caltrain from SF to SJ commute, I've done the Amtrak commute on the east bay (Oakland to Fremont). I've done the BART commute from SF to Fremont. For a few months, I lived across the street from work, as well.

      Let's just say I'm glad I'm back in Portland. Biking around is calmingly peaceful, even in winter. The air is always fresh. I'm a native of Seattle (around Redmond/Woodinville), so I don't mind the rain.

      And, as you say, not dirty, and it doesn't smell.

      SF'ers, though, are often quite funny. They call people around the city proper "bridge and tunnel people". If you cross a bridge on bike for work, you're cool in Portland, as there are like a dozen bridges to choose from, and they are all neat in their own little way. The bike path streets never have cars racing down them. People drive much more calmly. You don't get shoved when you go to Berzerkeley Bowl (New Seasons and Food Front people are much nicer). You can actually have a conversation with somebody that just happens to come by. It doesn't have a permanent underclass composed of minorities. The diversity actually _mixes_ here, and isn't quite so insular. The most troublesome gangs are the zoobombers who are risky only because they bomb down the west hills at speeds that don't allow them to stop for traffic. If you like brewpubs, Portland is it! The bay area SUCKS for brewpubs. if you like books, seriously, SF doesn't hold a candle to Powell's! Anybody who shits on Portland as lacking culture seriously has their head stuck in the ground.

      So we're not so snobbish. We just spend our free time indulging in good beer and reading books.

      Does SF have a mountain in its back yard? Does it have vegetation that does NOT get brown 9 months out of the year? Portland also has the largest city park in the country. You can literally go for a walk through the forest within city limits. Portland also has one of the best library systems in terms of circulation per person in the country. I used to live above one of the libraries in Portland.

      Sure, if you want an accountant or a lawyer, find somebody who fights off the homeless on market. Do you want hard liquor instead of good beer? Use any of the random corner liquor stores in SF. People just take more time for quality here in Portland. In SF, it's just live to work, work to die, go to a street fair with the same old exhibitors, pot selling, and gay people. In Portland, pot just happens to be growing in a large percentage of garages -- you can grow your own here legally with a medical card. The SF culture is dying.

      And I haven't even begun to talk about Portland's famous mass transit system and urban planning. Does SF have an aerial tram? I think not.

      Portland is where all the people who used to go to SF now go for their real creative thinking.

    16. Re:Which Portland? by Ford+Prefect · · Score: 1

      "There was a huge march in Washington over men's rights..." Oh really? I've been in Seattle all day and I didn't see-- oh the OTHER Washington!

      What, this one? It's the original!

      Earlier this year, I visited Boston for a few days. Sadly, it wasn't the one in Lincolnshire. As a British person, looking at a map of Massachusetts is terribly confusing, what with all the countless borrowed place-names...
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    17. Re:Which Portland? by kchrist · · Score: 1

      She's a usability researcher, actually, she just doesn't blog about work (you know, work to live and all that).

      There's nothing remotely urban about Google's location in Mountain View, or anywhere else down on the peninsula, so you're not going to get things like bikeable neighborhoods or public transit there any more than you'd get them in any suburb. But don't sell Google's perks short -- the shuttle and cafes alone save us a ton of money in transportation and grocery costs. One meal at home per day is much cheaper than three, and riding a free, comfortable private bus is preferable to paying for the train or, god forbid, driving the 101. This stuff helps keep her there but it would be nothing if she also didn't really love her work, and that's the real reason for staying there. For now, anyway.

    18. Re:Which Portland? by Mercano · · Score: 1

      Living in New England, the first place I think of if someone talks about Portland is the one over in Maine. Besides, even the non-localized version of the Weather Channel (the one you get if you have DirecTV or Dish) lists both Portlands in national rundown they give you in place on local weather.

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  45. If only this were truly funny by SendBot · · Score: 1

    This renaming initiative is actually not a bad idea. However, the subject of renaming streets in portland is a very sore one. Just this year, our wonderfully recognizable Portland Blvd. was changed to Rosa Parks Way by the city council who recklessly bypassed our carefully written renaming guidelines by simply voting to not follow these rules in a city council meeting. The sign changes were partial, the prior notice was virtually nonexistent, and it has created a lot of confusion and malcontent. Why they chose to rename portland blvd and not some other less worthy named street like "killingsworth" remains a mystery.

    If that wasn't bad enough, our mayor has been wasting so much time and energy on a failed initiative to get historic interstate avenue rename "cesar chavez ave", creating much hostility and discussions of racism while in the meantime cyclists are being KILLED due to dangerous conditions that have cars turning right into bikes who have their own lane. This, after the mayor tried to stifle funding for safer bike planning (which doesn't even need that much money, certainly less than the SOFTBALL organizations receive).

    1. Re:If only this were truly funny by faedle · · Score: 1

      Killingsworth is, if memory served, named after an influential family who lived in the Overlook neighborhood.

      Portland Blvd. and Interstate Avenue were considered for "renaming" because they aren't named for a "person".

      Portland Blvd. was confusing, in the sense that it is a secondary street that isn't very commercially significant (and before you say anything, I LIVE one block from Portland Blvd/Rosa Parks). It was named before Arbor Lodge and Piedmont were part of Portland. Most of the reason why you didn't hear a big stink about Portland Blvd. is because many in North felt it was a weirdly named street to begin with.

      Now, we have Rosa Parks way.

      What I want to know is this: is the city aware of the pun they created by renaming Portland Blvd. to "Rosa Parks Way?" Portland trivia question: where is Portland's oldest rose garden? Yep, in the park that is, conveniently, now on Rosa Parks Way.

    2. Re:If only this were truly funny by Simonetta · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I live also in Portland and I simply detest these street name changes. This isn't simply a matter of swapping a handful of street signs. There are millions of maps both printed and internet-based throughout the world that are now out-of-date. And with millions of GPS navigational devices being installed in cars and other vehicles, all the software becomes invalid. And with the absurd tendency to change a major street name every few years, none of the software for Portland Oregon is ever correct. Try renting a car from the airport and trying to find an address on Portland Blvd, and then getting lost in Northeast Portland. What a nightmare.

          This street-renaming tendency results from the inability to tell the difference between an empty symbolic gesture and an action that would really make a difference in the lives of the people? For instance, instead of spending tens of thousands of dollars on a street name change for Cesar Chavez, why not spend the same amount of money developing a public domain software program that translates Mexican Indian languages like Maya and Zapotec into English. There are thousand or so Mexicans in Portland and the Willamette Valley who don't speak Spanish but occasionally interact with the locals. A language translation utility would be much more useful to the Mexican people in Oregon than an empty symbolic gesture like a street name change. It would be more in spirit with Cesar Chavez's actual vision of doing serious and concrete things to help his people in their daily lives.

    3. Re:If only this were truly funny by SendBot · · Score: 1

      To quote Tracy Weber, "They honored the mother of civil rights by taking away our rights."

      As for portland blvd. being a weirdly named street, I firmly stand behind the bumper sticker that reads "Keep Portland Weird".

      I don't know what you mean about it being a secondary street or not commercially viable. You can directly exit I5 onto it.

      I'm including a rather long excerpt from this mercury article:

      "Almost no one I knew heard about it," she [Tracy Weber] says, pointing out that only 30 to 50 people attended the April 2006 public hearing, depending on which report you read. Weber didn't find out about the swap until she saw the new street signs on her block, this past January, when it was "over and done with." Residents got a note on March 23, 2007 about the change (there was also a letter sent in December 2006, but Weber says she and several other neighbors didn't get it).

      It's no wonder residents were blindsided by the change: Saltzman circumvented city code to ram the idea through.

      The city code has an entire section dedicated to renaming streets. There are two ways to do it: a long, involved citizen-initiated process, or a quick city council vote that can only be used in limited circumstances.

      The citizen-initiated process involves filing an application with the city, gathering 2,500 signatures (or signatures from 75 percent of the street's property owners), assembling a biography of the honoree, paying a fee to notify neighbors, running the idea past a panel of historians, going before the city's planning commission, and--finally--swaying the city council.

      Additionally, there are criteria for who a street can be renamed after. It must be a real, "prominent" person who has made a "significant, positive contribution to the United States of America and/or the local community." The person has to have been deceased for at least five years.

      The other way to change a street name is via a city council vote. But according to city code, the council is only allowed to change a street name to "to correct errors in street names, or to eliminate confusion." In fact, the city code is very clear that the council cannot take it upon themselves to rename a street to honor a person: "Renaming of a street by the city under provisions of this paragraph shall not be undertaken to rename a street after a person."

    4. Re:If only this were truly funny by Seumas · · Score: 1

      Street renaming isn't the problem. The entire point of having a proper administrative process for applying for, approving and processing a street name change request is that everyone gets to voice their opinion, it's voted on, money is paid to cover the cost of paperwork and signs, people have fair warning to change their signs and business cards and Thomas Guide can update their maps, etc.

      When you encounter the confusion and glitches is when the city council shows utter disregard for this process in some needless and (as you pointed out) empty gesture. Maybe if we name enough streets after someone that isn't in recognition of "The White Man", we can just forget about that whole wiping out the indians and enslaving africans and interring asians thing. Right?

  46. 4th wasn't the original problem. by faedle · · Score: 1

    I'm one of the people who was vocally against the original renaming of Interstate Avenue to Chavez, and a resident of the Arbor Lodge neighborhood that was the most opposed to the renaming. It is worth pointing out that this renaming was a hot-button in local politics. People were called "racist" for opposing the renaming.

    Fourth was brought up as a last-minute compromise that nobody was happy with.

    Those interested might want to read the St. Johns Sentinel, the community newspaper up here in North Portland. Here's a good starting point.

  47. Preliminary Paperwork by scopius · · Score: 1

    "with preliminary paperwork already in the works." The preliminary paperwork has been on file for months, apparently. It's been in the basement of the records office, in a dark room with no stairs leading down to it, behind a door with the sign "Beware of Tiger."
  48. It's an insult... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to place his name on a street in a country that is so nuts and crazy about Creationist I.D. and Religion, that mostly believes in the supernatural, and denies science and facts.

  49. Where is this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Portland, where? It would be helpful if the state/country(?) was listed as well. Doesn't say on the petition either (that I saw).

  50. Yup! by StefanJ · · Score: 1

    Flanders, Quimby, Lovejoy, Kearny . . . it makes walking to the indie movie house on 21st fun!

  51. Speaking as one who lives there... by SiriusStarr · · Score: 1

    ...why the strife?! I see no reason we are obligated to rename streets after dead/famous people. It provides nothing other than a token nod to the arts, or ethnic minorities, etc. allowing us to say we've done our part without actually making any sacrifice. On the other hand, it costs many people time and money, as businesses have to update cards, ads, signs, etc. to reflect the new address, mapping programs will have to update their databases, etc. I live in the city, and I am frankly horrified by the name-calling, vicious accusations, and general uncivilized conduct that these debates have caused.

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  52. Proud of my Slashdot username... by 42 · · Score: 1

    Stories like this make me proud to have the Slashdot username I have.

    1. Re:Proud of my Slashdot username... by Tastecicles · · Score: 1

      I had to settle for one of the three remaining names nobody else had ever trademarked.

      And if you don't get that one, forget I even said anything.

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  53. Really... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think more people are against assholes, not atheists per se. It's just that some of the most vocal happen to be both, but that's by no means exclusive to atheism (cf. Bush & co.).

  54. Maybe I should try this in Minnesota by Tycho · · Score: 1

    I think that renaming County Road 9 or Rockford Road in Hennepin County, Minnesota might be a better idea in some ways. First off, Rockford Road for much of its length is also known as 42nd Ave N. The street originally was a direct connection to Rockford, MN. However the state of Minnesota probably took over a large section of road that used to be known as Rockford Road when it built MN-55 so now some inner ring suburbs are left with a road fragment with the name Rockford Road that really doesn't attach to Rockford, MN. So, in some ways it is an ideal candidate. IIRC few businesses have the name Rockford in their title along this road. However there is a public library run by the county that is known as the "Rockford Road Library" so renaming this would be a nice bonus. For most of its length, Rockford Road is a four lane road with two lanes each direction with left and right turn lanes and a center island. It travels mostly through residential neighborhoods, but there are some strip malls occasionally. Also, since the entire length of Rockford Road is a county road and thus managed by the county renaming it shouldn't be that hard. However, Roackford Road does intersect with Douglas Drive and that might get a bit confusing for some people if the name change went through.

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  55. Re:A better suggestion (and a better calculation) by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 1

    You digital calculator is wrong. Everyone knows that 6 x 9 = 42. Sheesh.

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  56. The intersection of 47th and 47th by The+Monster · · Score: 1

    Here's the intersection of 47th Street and 47th Street on the border of Johnson and Wyandotte Counties in Kansas. The road that runs down the county line is called 47th Street by Johnson County municipalities, following the KC, MO street-numbering convention, but the KC, KS scheme runs perpendicular to the adjacent counties, so WYCO calls it County Line Road. So, from this intersection, you can go East, West, or North, and be on 47th Street

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  57. THHGTTG Radio tapes by Averyge+Joe · · Score: 1

    Does anyone know if the original radio shows from the 70's are available anywhere? I would love to listen to them again.

    Thanks...

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  58. In LA... by A+New+Normalcy · · Score: 1

    The Griffith Observatory has The Cafe at the End of the Universe www.griffithobservatory.org/vcafe.html ...from Thousand Oaks, midway between the observatory and Mr. Adams' last home in Santa Barbara. ...Lorenzo

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  59. True, but Torvalds makes you laugh longer, deeper. by Futurepower(R) · · Score: 1

    "Except that Torvalds is not a gifted comedic writer, ..."

    I agree that Douglas Adams wrote things that were funny. But the fact that someone is taking over the market for inexpensive computers by giving away an operating system he started in his bedroom still causes me to laugh.