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Meet the Laptop of 2015

cweditor writes "Like concept cars at auto shows, the computer industry designs 'concept notebooks' to imagine the machines of the future. The 'concepts' may not come to market as-is, but it's likely some of their ideas, components and features will. Take a look at systems you might be using in 7 years. In one, a touch-sensitive screen acts as the system's keyboard and mouse, allowing you to slide your finger across the screen to immediately shut off the display and keep what you're working on confidential. Their associated image gallery includes a prototype for a dual-screen laptop."

351 comments

  1. That's nothing new by Minwee · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I have a "concept model" of a dual screen laptop. It fits in my hand and can play Mario Bros.

    1. Re:That's nothing new by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 3, Funny

      The difference is that it's a gaming machine, not anything that matters. The dual screen is a terr-rrr-rrr-rrr-ible idea and it will never be on a successful laptop.

    2. Re:That's nothing new by edalytical · · Score: 3, Funny

      And it runs Linux! Not to sound like a snob, but I own two because not enough of my friends own their own.

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    3. Re:That's nothing new by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You mean until it is successful, right?

      With vibration, haptic advances, visual, and audio feedback, what is wrong with a second touch sensitive screen as the keyboard?

      Then when you don't need it as a keyboard, it can become a tool-kit, palette, and any other interface you need.

    4. Re:That's nothing new by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      You mean like a tablet PC? That works fine with one screen and wouldn't make any sense to have 2?

    5. Re:That's nothing new by Raineer · · Score: 5, Funny

      No sane computer user would ever have two monitors on one desk, and 640k is enough for anyone.

    6. Re:That's nothing new by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 1

      Why would a laptop be less useful with two screens than a desktop with two monitors?

      Are you therefore arguing it doesn't make sense for anyone to use a multi-monitor setup?

    7. Re:That's nothing new by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      That's because they don't make 3080x1050 monitors. I need a 1600x1050 one and a 1400x1050 one to get that kind of size/resolution. Whereas if you were insane enough to want a laptop 3 times as wide as it is deep, they could just build in a screen that size; you wouldn't build in two separate screens next to each other since they're part of the laptop..

    8. Re:That's nothing new by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speak for yourself, I find myself hooking my laptop up to my desktop monitor for a second monitor for more real estate to increase productivity.

    9. Re:That's nothing new by cloakable · · Score: 1

      Apart from the reason many people (including myself) use dual screens on their desktops - more screen real estate?

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    10. Re:That's nothing new by astrotek · · Score: 4, Funny

      dual screen is useful until you figure out you can watch video on one while you work on the other

    11. Re:That's nothing new by admdrew · · Score: 1

      You're not the only one - I had the original DS when they first came out, then picked up one a DS lite later on. The DS lite fits in a pocket a little easier, and now I've had the older DS to play around with Linux on.

      It helps they're (relatively!) cheap.

    12. Re:That's nothing new by RaceCarDriver · · Score: 1

      It runs Linux too!

    13. Re:That's nothing new by Toonol · · Score: 1

      The dual screen seems terrible until you use it. The DS gained all sorts of extra functionality because of it. It is far more efficient and versatile than fitting a mini-keyboard into the space occupied by the lower screen, for example.

      I wouldn't want it to replace a full keyboard on a standard notebook used for typical purposes, granted. But I think your dismissal is too flippant.

    14. Re:That's nothing new by Allador · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Using a touch-screen as a keyboard is a terrible idea, and only good for very casual users.

      For the typical road-warrior that totes a laptop around, you need a keyboard that you can type on without having to look at it.

      Touch screens work adequately for systems like the iPhone where you need to be looking at the display anyway, but are useless on a laptop where you need to be able to type quickly and move on and off the keyboard without having to look at it all the time.

    15. Re:That's nothing new by suggsjc · · Score: 1

      I tend to agree with you, but you are also assuming that there isn't going to be new tech that makes the touchscreen more usable for touch typists.

      Different but somewhat related is the Optimus Maximus. Yes, it still has physical keys, but they can each change/remap at any time based on what task you are doing. So just because we can't envision how something would work with our current technology doesn't mean it is necessarily a stupid idea.

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    16. Re:That's nothing new by cecil_turtle · · Score: 1

      what is wrong with a second touch sensitive screen as the keyboard? Because it is just not possible to effectively touch-type on a hard surface that has no tactile feedback.
    17. Re:That's nothing new by protolith · · Score: 1

      It might be just as easy for the touch screen to have tactile nubs in a few locations to correspond to specific keys (like the F and J keys on most keyboards) There could be a tactile grid that could correspond to all of the keys as a default keypad setup. or with a couple of reference nubs the key spacing could be adjustable, to be modified to an individuals finger length and reach.

      There is the potential for a touch screen based keyboard to be more efficient than most existing laptop keypads.

    18. Re:That's nothing new by Allador · · Score: 1

      So that works great for the home row. But what about when you make a mistake, or are slightly off? The only way you'll be able to detect it is by watching the screen, then stopping, and looking at the keyboard.

      Then you have the cursor keys and the home/end/insert/delete/pgup/pgdwn keys. Both of those sets I do completely by touch.

      On keyboards where they're rearranged or not in a touch friendly location, my typing slows way down, especially when in an IDE.

    19. Re:That's nothing new by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      "Using a touch-screen as a keyboard is a terrible idea, and only good for very casual users."

      I very much agree. Touch-screens will not be used as keyboards until they can provide tactile response and keys with at least 3mm of travel like modern keyboards. If they can figure that out then I could see "touch-screen" keyboards happening.

      However I could imagine the mouse touchpad becoming a touchscreen.

      I think laptops in 7 yrs will become more like the Mac Air and the Eee PC but with swiveling lay-flat touch-screen LCDs. The need to DVD and CD drives installed within the laptops will disappear as free online storage and faster wireless speeds replace the need to record or install from physical media.

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    20. Re:That's nothing new by Provocateur · · Score: 1

      That is assuming we'll still be using our own fingertips for typing. At 2015, we'll have our fingers coated with a membrane that provides the necessary tactile feedback response to these 'hard surfaces'. They're the new accessory that comes with your laptop. At $1500 for each fingertip. No that wasn't a typo.

      You can also buy the other accessory, the faux airplane tray table for that second monitor, when you *really* need to bring that bad boy on a flight. It comes with an anti-recliner seat post for that bastard in front of you, pretending he's getting ready for liftoff.

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    21. Re:That's nothing new by nbucking · · Score: 1

      How is touch screen or dual screen new? The reason laptops do not use two screens is because they are not energy efficients. In other words the costs outweigh the benefits. What I think of a future laptop is one that you can rollup or put in a binder.

    22. Re:That's nothing new by nametaken · · Score: 1

      There are worse decisions they could make. For instance, apparently in 2015 we're going to be using Windows Vista. I weep for our children.

    23. Re:That's nothing new by Off+the+Rails · · Score: 1

      it is just not possible to effectively touch-type on a hard surface that has no tactile feedback One of the other concepts in TFA has a fully tactile display for blind people. If that kind of technology can be integrated into an OLED or something similar, you get the best of both worlds - a keyboard, second display and handwriting pad all in one.
    24. Re:That's nothing new by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      Tell that to the people who are putting 50GB movies on blu ray disks.. personally I don't want to wait 10 weeks for my movie to load from my S3 space.

    25. Re:That's nothing new by davolfman · · Score: 1

      Software keyboards suck. It's a simple fact of life. It's so much easier to type on something when you can tell you're in between keys by touch, before you click. It would take some very expensive advanced technology, very well developed, in a complete vacuum of demand, to make a touchscreen equal to the real thing. If you want to use a touchscreen for input you're much better off ditching the keyboard entirely and building a better-adapted input paradigm. Maybe something based on multi-touch and finger positioning to figure out which key the user actually wants just before they press it?

    26. Re:That's nothing new by Landshark17 · · Score: 1

      I thought about that when I was reading through the article. Two solutions come to mind:

      1) A touch screen with very lightly raised bumps and ridges where the standard keyboard would be. You could feel your way around even if they keyboard's not there. The obvious downside being that the bumps and ridges remain when you're using another interface. I don't think I'd want to try and draw anything with a stylus on that.

      2) Some sort of combination of the touch screen with the morphing Magneclay of the Saifu. Something that could morph to feel like whatever interface you are using would be pretty nifty, but it seems a little too sci-fi, even for seven years from now.

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    27. Re:That's nothing new by skiman1979 · · Score: 1

      The problem I have with touch screen keyboards is there is no tactile feedback like there is with a mechanical keyboard. Sure, they could make the touchscreen vibrate slightly at each press of a key, but I like the feel of each key sinking slightly into the keyboard when I press it.

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    28. Re:That's nothing new by skiman1979 · · Score: 1

      Good point about the dual screen on the DS.

      I think a better way of implementing dual screens on a laptop would be to have your typical clamshell laptop, but when you flip the lid open, there can be 2 thin screens built into the lid that you pull to either side to have a tri-screen setup. The 2 extra screens can slide in and out. They could be thin LCDs, or perhaps a thin projecter screen of sorts and have two tiny built-in projectors on the left and right edges of the laptop lid that can project the two extra displays onto those screens when they are pulled open.

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    29. Re:That's nothing new by Kelbear · · Score: 1

      A slide-out/roll-out plastic overlay onto the touch screen could supply the bumps described.

      The GUI would have to be designed around this implementation though.

    30. Re:That's nothing new by iamhassi · · Score: 1

      No worries, we have 7 years. Just look back at the past 7 years:

      --My home connection speeds have tripled in the past 7 years while the prices have dropped by half.

      --We were all trolling along wirelessly at 4.5 Mbit/s (~500 kbyte/sec) seven years ago because 802.11g didn't exist yet. Even now 802.11g is outdated with it's measly 23 Mbit/s and 802.11n is right around the corner, offering 3x the speeds and double the range, and WiMax looks even more promising.

      --No one had gigabytes of free online storage 7 years ago. Gmail didn't even exist until 2004 and it started with 1 gig, which was enormous amounts for a free email account at the time since Hotmail only offered 2 megabytes and Yahoo offered 4 megabytes. Now you can get 25 gigabytes of online storage for free. Imagine what free online storage will be like in 7 more years? 250gb? 1 terabyte?

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  2. I'll be dead by then by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Funny

    You insensitive clod!

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  3. Obvious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Does it run Linux?

    1. Re:Obvious question by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 2, Funny

      2015 will be the year of Linux on the dual touch-screen laptop.

    2. Re:Obvious question by TheVelvetFlamebait · · Score: 4, Funny

      But of course! In 2015, everything runs Linux and OEMs ship it pre-installed. We know this because, as everyone knows, 2008 will be the year of Linux on the desktop.

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    3. Re:Obvious question by Hawkeye05 · · Score: 1

      And the year the cubbies win the world series.

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    4. Re:Obvious question by kramulous · · Score: 1

      Sadly not. Those images had Windoze stamped all over them. 2009 may not fair well either. We should just hibernate till 2016.

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    5. Re:Obvious question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seeing this being modded funny makes me sad somehow...

  4. In the future nobody touches anything by jandrese · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Apparently in the future the idea of tactile feedback is dead and everybody just types on glass screens like in the movies. Presumably these laptop designers have not actually tried that themselves to see just how much people actually like typing on a piece of glass with no cues at to where the keys are.

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    1. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My fingers land right on the middle of the keys; there's no fumbling around the edges until I get good purchase on the middle and finally press it. I'd have no problem with no tactile feedback, though it would be really hard to type without looking at the screen.
      Also come on, really? We have an article on the front page about how stupid futurism is and then a futurist article. Trying to appeal to everyone I see. Anyway it's not like all of that has interest to anybody except the PC World grandpa crowd; I'm far more interested in seeing those number of cores go up up up and being able to run xbox 360 games (oh haha I remember that old thing; sent it in 15 times for repairs before microsoft's games division closed) on my entry-level cell phone.

    2. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Since the 50s there have been auto show cars that drive by a joystick, but they never come out. Why? Because the current design works well. A sliding screen you can't adjust for glare? A keyboard with no feedback? To succeed it has to be more than cool, it has to be better. (Or at least not worse)

    3. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by jellomizer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Tactile feedback is kinda overrated. I have an iPhone and I like it. Even typing is fairly easy...(for the small space). Even for a full laptop I doubt that the lack of tactile feedback will be a major problem in the long run. You just have to get use to it. It is funny the Technology Croud who is working with one of the fastes areas of change are often the most resistant to it.

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    4. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by plumby · · Score: 5, Informative

      There's been plenty of research into tactile touchscreens already (Nokia seem to think they're on to something ). I'm sure there will be more within the next 7 years.

    5. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Sciros · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Type a lengthy text message without looking at the phone's keyboard. Quickly. ^_^ I mean, there's a reason there's a bump on the 'F' and 'J' keys on the keyboard I'm using at the moment. A good reason.

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    6. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by kebes · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Agreed. Typing on rigid, flat surfaces is painful and inefficient.

      Which is why a combination of the concepts presented in the article would be far more attractive than any of them separately (I'm surprised the author of the piece didn't pick up on this): One of the laptops is billed as being "for blind people" because the surface can deform to generate bumps that the blind can read. The rest of the laptops have flat touch-screens for keyboards. Which is great for dynamic layouts but sucks for typing.

      But combining them would be amazing. Imagine a keyboard that can reconfigure not only what is displayed on each key (like the Optimus), but also the keys themselves. If this "surface deformation" technology was good enough (and could be integrated with flexible displays) then you could have a surface that acts as a flat screen some of the time (for reading e-books, as a drawing pad, etc.) but generates the tactile relief of keys when typing is required.

      More generally, it could reconfigure to generate new keyboard layouts as required. This would also solve one of the criticisms with the iPhone and iPod touch: you can't operate them without looking directly at the keys. Imagine if in addition to visual changes on the screen, there were bumps and grooves that dynamically appeared so that by touch alone you could feel the current key layout.

      This, to me, is the ultimate future for compact computing devices: we will have screens that can vary both display and topography. Of course the technology to do this will be difficult to "get right" (key topography is only half of typing: you need the keys to "spring" properly)... but there is nothing impossible in principle about having deformable surfaces with integrated flexible displays.

    7. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by megaditto · · Score: 1

      You could type on glass if you are wearing a force feedback glove of some sort, which can range from just giving you a satisfying "click" (through actuators strapped to your your digits) to actually reproducing keboard texture through a smaller equivalent of something like this with a greater feel-el resolution.

      I bet you future notebooks will not have a screen either, but a single stalk with a laser projector that tracks your eyes and beams the image onto you retina (we have the technology right already for this, though not portable).

      I think future laptops will not actually be laptops at all, but rather a wearable exoskeleton-like suit that can support your body and provide faux feel of an office chair, a desk, a keyboard in the middle of nowhere. Something based losely on this: http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/01/14/1621258

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    8. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by nine-times · · Score: 1

      I agree, and I even have an iPhone and *like* the iPhone for typing. Touch-screen keyboard works ok, assuming a situation where you'll be doing limited amounts of typing while paying a lot of attention for short bursts of time. To be more clear, when I'm typing an e-mail or SMS on my iPhone, I'm typing a quick message in particular circumstances, and I feel like I can afford to be a little deliberate in that process. But if I'm going to type a long e-mail or a report or something, I need a physical keyboard. No way around that.

      I'd bet that in 7 years laptops will be thinner, lighter, and more power-efficient. Hopefully the screen will be brighter and easier to read in sunlight, and we'll have better wireless internet. Those are features that pretty much every laptop owner actually wants. The screens might also be touch-sensitive, or I could imagine someone putting an additional screen behind the track-pad to provide additional controls. Hell, I could even imagine keyboards generally having little screens on them like the Optimus Maximus keyboard. But a touch-screen keyboard on my laptop is out of the question.

    9. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by drsmithy · · Score: 1
      p> Apparently in the future the idea of tactile feedback is dead and everybody just types on glass screens like in the movies. Presumably these laptop designers have not actually tried that themselves to see just how much people actually like typing on a piece of glass with no cues at to where the keys are.

      To say nothing of the RSI nightmare from drumming your fingers onto a hard piece of glass all day.

    10. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Psychotria · · Score: 1

      I agree. Additionally, how are you supposed to read the screen when your hands are in the way, and when they're not in the way the screen is covered with grubby finger marks?

    11. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by spookymonster · · Score: 1, Insightful

      It is funny the Technology Croud who is working with one of the fastes areas of change are often the most resistant to it.

      I guess I see your point... in a world where proper capitalization, spelling, and grammar are no longer relevant, being able to hit the right key at the right time is fairly moot.

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    12. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by cbreaker · · Score: 3, Interesting

      As much as people keep going on about their iPhones, you need tactile feedback to type at any speed, and to do it without looking. These screens might work okay for an occasional use notebook but not as a general purpose business machine.

      Not only do normal keyboards provide an excellent method of interfacing with a computer, they also cushion the fingers as you type so you don't experience pain and pressure by tapping away at a hard surface all day.

      It looks pretty as a rendered image, but functionally I'd never own a computer for regular use that didn't have a normal keyboard - unless you could speak to the computer as you would in Star Trek land.

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    13. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by 2nd+Post! · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Why wouldn't a touch-screen provide the bump? Vibration (or advanced haptic technology) can provide that.

      Even better, with a touch screen, EVERYWHERE you put your fingers, initially, is the homerow.

    14. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by mapkinase · · Score: 0, Redundant

      /. really needs "Fanboy" option for mods.

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    15. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      I mean, there's a reason there's a bump on the 'F' and 'J' keys on the keyboard I'm using at the moment. A good reason. You could overlay a transparent film over the touch display with little clear bumps where those keys would be displayed underneath, much like the little clear dot of dried grapefruit juice in one corner of my LCD HDTV that I need to clean off. (I shouldn't eat breakfast so close to the TV.)

      Me, I'd want the entire border of every key raised in that film, and the display smart enough to know that I only want the display to behave like a keyboard when that film is in place and to align the virtual keys with the film's placement.

      Barring that, a display that can raise edges up electrically without having to use a film. Basically, merge the touch display-keyboard with the tactile display for the blind.
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    16. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by PenisLands · · Score: 0

      You're right. I recently got an mp3 player. The buttons are very smooth and level with the surface of the plastic, so you cannot feel which button your finger is on without looking. It bothered me so much that I stuck blu-tack to the surface of each button, so I could use the thing in bed at night without looking at the blindingly bright screen.

    17. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by jammindice · · Score: 1

      Well i guess they were probably thinking more along the lines of voice commands... much easier than typing in the first place... and by then they should have some kind of decently working voice command system in place

      "Open Writer"
      "Begin recording"
      "..."
      "stop recording"

      In that case you would rarely need a keyboard, you could use a finger to click into your browser and just say the domain name, or just open up office and hit the record button or something to that effect and just start rambling on and have it all get written down for you.

      not saying that i would like that but it seems that's where all these designs were headed... voice activation what a wonderful failure.....

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    18. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by moderatorrater · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My fingers land right on the middle of the keys How much of that's because you're constantly getting the feedback of knowing whether you hit the center or slightly off center? At least for me, the tactile feedback keeps my typing from getting sloppy. Tactile feedback is making a big comeback in cars and I expect to see it stay in laptops.
    19. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "To succeed it has to be more than cool, it has to be better." Which is why those highly reflective laptop screens never caught on.

      -Typed while moving my head around to try to make out the article on my glossy laptop screen instead of just the perfect reflection of the building across the street.
    20. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by FredFredrickson · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tactile feedback is making a big comeback in cars and I expect to see it stay in laptops.
      As in, when you hit another car, it gives you obvious physical feedback, such as smashing your face in with the dashboard?

      No but seriously, I'm curious what you're talking about here.
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    21. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by funaho · · Score: 1

      I'm glad to see I'm not the only one that thinks these completely flat keyboards are silly. For those of us who were actually trained to touch type (I took it in high school in 1986) it's very cumbersome to use a keyboard that does not provide tactile feedback and some way of feeling the position of the home row. Ever wonder what the little ridges are for on the F and J keys? It's finger placement assistance for touch typists.

      Best keyboard I ever had was a Lexmark PS/2 keyboard from circa 1995. It was a $105 keyboard at the time that I got while I was working for an IBM reseller. It was full size and had nice firm keys that made a good audible CLICK when you hit them. It was a lot like typing on a typewriter. Unfortunately it died many years ago, and I have never had a keyboard anywhere near that good since then.

    22. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by eclipticalmedia · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Thankfully we don't have the computers today they predicted we'd have 5 years ago.

    23. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Exactly, these "designers" are simply doing a technology circle jerk for the masses.

      Anyone that actually uses a computer will tell you that it is 100% impossible to replace the keyboard. College students will overturn cars and burn them in the streets if they have to type a 1500 word essay on a fricking touchscreen. no programmer will touch the things, and any home user that wants to use it like anything but a glorified TV will also hate it.

      We have complete proof of this right now. Tablet sales suck, nobody wants a tablet pc outside a very vertical market. They are useless as a laptop replacement. voice recognition still sucks massively. Even the best stuff out there fails to even get a 65% success rate and it drops faster as your ambient noise level increases. Plus I would hate the idea of a society where everyone is talking to their PC to write a letter, email or paper, there is too much noise as it is.

      What I want is them to figure out the weight problem, the battery problem ,and get the fricking LED backlighting as well as readability in sunlight working. Other than that the laptop's formfactor is fine (Macbook Air for example)

      Maybe beef up the durability, but you can already buy that. I toss my work laptop 12 feet into the bed of a pickup truck on a regular basis already. (Toughbooks rock)

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    24. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by rolfwind · · Score: 1

      Tactile feedback is kinda overrated.


      No it's not. On the iPhone, the loss of tactile feedback is acceptable because with the limited realestate -- you could either have a fulltime keyboard that would not be used most of the time, or a screen that sometimes shows a keyboard when necessary. Almost nobody will type any serious length messages on the iPhone (or any other phone). It's an acceptable feedback.

      But on the iPhone, I'm getting visual feedback of hitting the correct keys. On a computer/laptop -- I don't want to have to look down at the keys to know what I'm hitting -- I want to feel it. It's much faster

      Oh but you say, what about watching the letters come out on the screen. Fine, except when I'm hitting key combinations that don't show up on the screen right away (Ctrl+C, etc).

      Loss of tactile feedback is only acceptable on devices I don't expect to write full length documents.
    25. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      All this seems strangely similar sounding to the keyboards of cheap computers in the early 80's. You know the ones that almost no one remembers anything about except that they hated they keyboards on them?

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    26. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by NeilTheStupidHead · · Score: 2, Insightful

      My biggest issue with voice activation technology is not the recognition. I have a voice activated mobile phone that understands my commands quite readily. I work in an office with two other people in close proximity; a trio of voice activated computers would be a nightmare of mis-heard or mis-interpreted commands. Though it will doubtless undergo many changes in years to come, the keyboard will remain the primary input method for a very long time to come, especially when there are people that can type faster than they can talk, particularly when it comes to non-natural terms and phrases that are used in many applications such as programming.

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    27. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Kjella · · Score: 1

      I mean, there's a reason there's a bump on the 'F' and 'J' keys on the keyboard I'm using at the moment. A good reason. Funny, apart from making it slightly easier to realign your right hand to the keyboard if you switch from the mouse I never found any good use for them. When you sit down you easily see the position of the keyboard, I guess it's a reminder for those who don't know to put their fingers. For basic typing, your fingers naturally go back to the basic position (up left -> press -> down right) and correcting itself using the tactile feedback of "am I hitting the keys center?". So I don't mean to dispute the value of tactile feedback, I just think you picked one of the more useless examples.
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    28. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by MBGMorden · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I personally can't even stand most modern standard keyboards - I use a mechanical switch/buckling spring keyboard at home and can't stand not having my satisfying "cuh-clank" on every keystroke when I have to use the $10 POS they bought me at work. Laptop keyboards are equally painful to type on. The though of typing on a solid surface is like a futurist article suggesting that we all just start imagining sex instead of using any "tactile orifices". Then again, this is Slashdot . . .

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    29. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by AshtangiMan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

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    30. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by synth7 · · Score: 1

      Actually, I consider tactile feedback to be just as important as you... and perhaps they'll solve that issue right on the display. But what they cannot solve is the fact that touching the display -- ANY display -- invariably results with oily smudges and food smears. I already am annoyed by how often I have to dust a screen and get a cloth to gently wipe down all the fingerprints, errant sneeze spots, and whatever else collects on the screen surface.

      I suppose there'll be a switch that disables the screen for the frequent times you'll need to wipe down the whole mess with a disinfecting towelette.

      Until such time that computers can parse human speech and interact with you directly, it'll still be necessary to use traditional input methods. And even then... there are so many tasks that make keyboard and mouse input so much easier. Having to point with your actual arm and hand requires a lot more muscle activity than mousing around with your forearm and wrist. I can see that carpal-rotator-cuff stands to become the next RSI if we start using touch screens exclusively.

      I suppose this is mitigated by the fact that people who are going to perform heavy duty work will opt for a docking station that gives them a workstation setup that is more conducive to human physiology. Especially having the monitor correctly located with respect to your source materials and desktop. I always find myself hunching forward when using a laptop without external screen and keyboard.

    31. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by jandrese · · Score: 1

      You touch type on your iPhone?!?

      Hunt and peck typing doesn't need tactile feedback because you're looking at the keys anyway. The downside is that hunt and peck is slow (I don't need to hear about that one guy in the office who hunts and pecks at 130 wpm, he's an exception, not the rule).

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    32. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I'm a little curious about his statement, too. To my knowledge, car ergonomics have always been very tactile-oriented, because you need to be able to operate controls without taking your eyes off the road. There have been a few stupid attempts at moving most controls to centralized touch-screen computers, both with some 80s-90s GM cars and more lately with BMW's idiotic and buggy "iDrive" system powered by Microsoft, but those have been very small exceptions on cars with very small sales volumes, not mainstream at all.

    33. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I mean, there's a reason there's a bump on the 'F' and 'J' keys on the keyboard I'm using at the moment. A good reason.

      No there's not.

      There would be a good reason for bumps on keys in those positions if you were using a well-designed keyboard like the Dvorak, so that you could put your hands there as the "home" row. But with a typical qwerty keyboard, it makes no sense to put your hands on the home row, because you so infrequently use the keys there, and spend most of your time on keys on the top of bottom rows.

      When I'm at home using my Dvorak keyboard, I wish the home-row keys did have bumps.

    34. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      While the idea of tactile feedback is important, it is also the idea to bring really to the max the area where you can display information AND interact. Wonder how good some sort of tactile keyboard (flat keys, that can be pressed,even that have borders) could be used as screen. In the worst case, there are a lot of people that use external keyboard/mouses with laptops (and PDAs) today, could be another alternative.

      Personally i like the idea of an all-screen laptop, where the keyboard or whatever media of interaction is displayed along with the info, but in the proposed ones, i prefer the ones that optionally at least can be used with a (mostly?) horizontal keyboard and vertical screen.

    35. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Sciros · · Score: 1

      LOL! The positioning is to establish a point of reference so you can type without looking. The bumps may as well be on arbitrary keys so long as you are aware of how the keyboard is laid out around those keys. Regardless of what layout you think is superior, both benefit from an easy way to initially position your hands.

      I think people who use Dvorak layouts and look for all sorts of non-reasons to state that they do should wear cool patches on their shirts to feel more elite.

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    36. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We have an article on the front page about how stupid futurism is

      Stupid? The article was about how much they got right, hell they even predicted the ionic breeze. So what if we don't have giant domed carless cities? I can pull into a "modemixer"... sorry... "park'n'ride" outside of Houston and take a bus in if I was crazy enough. My microwave might not automatically select what dinner I should have that night and automatically load it from the freezer, but it can automatically pop popcorn and bake a potato. Titanium Oxide coatings clean themselves (and the atmosphere) in sunlight. "Computers also handle travel reservations, relay telephone messages, keep track of birthdays and anniversaries, compute taxes and even figure the monthly bills for electricity, water, telephone and other utilities." Quick, someone tell TurboTax that they're stupid! "Employers deposit salary checks directly into their employees' accounts. Credit cards are used for paying all bills. Each time you buy something, the card's number is fed into the store's computer station. A master computer then deducts the charge from your bank balance." What retarded things to do!

      The point is that if you don't focus on flying car pie-in-the-sky things, and instead look at "what will scratch the itches people actually have", you'll be successful at not only predicting what's coming in the next half-century, but at the entrepreneurship to be first in line when that decade comes.

    37. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by babyrat · · Score: 1

      It's 2015 - why are we still typing????

    38. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Allador · · Score: 1

      Try it some time. Use one of those laser-projector keyboards that will shine a keyboard on anything.

      After the first 60 seconds when the novelty wears off, you realize its just absolutely terrible for anything but emergency use.

      Not to mention: How would a glass LCD screen provide bumps?

      Also, with a physical keyboard, I can tell when I mistype by the feel .... I never have to look at the keyboard, so I can make mistakes, correct them, and keep going without ever having to look at the keyboard. With no tacile feedback, this wouldnt work.

    39. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by travbrad · · Score: 1

      Why wouldn't a touch-screen provide the bump? Vibration (or advanced haptic technology) can provide that. Even better, with a touch screen, EVERYWHERE you put your fingers, initially, is the homerow. I already find most laptop keyboards difficult to type with due to the reduced gaps (and therefore tactile feedback) compared to a standard keyboard. So perhaps a new type of feedback would actually be an improvement. The home row keys thing would be bad for me though, as I've never used them.
    40. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Allador · · Score: 1

      When you sit down you easily see the position of the keyboard Thats exactly it. With a physical keyboard that you can feel the keys on, and have home-row bumps, then you dont ever need to look at the keyboard at all.
    41. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by steelfood · · Score: 1

      Keys don't have to be so rigid. It is possible to make a key that would make typing more like pressing down on a cushion than on a button.

      What I'd be interested in is an interface with true tactile feedback for handwriting, along with serious handwriting instruments (i.e. styli with .5 mm or .3 mm tips). Currently, unless I put a dent in the screen, it's hard to tell whether I'm successfully dragging or not. The issue itself could be remediated with lasers, but I'd rather have that tactile feedback.

      Mental interfaces would be pretty cool too, but we have a long way to go before we can have our player jump as we jump, and turn left when we're thinking left.

      Besides the UI for the blind though, the rest of these are about as innovative as going to a soft-touch keyboard from one of those old clicky IBM model M's. And quite frankly, I prefer the model M's.

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    42. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by moderatorrater · · Score: 1

      What to you suggest? I type a hell of a lot faster than I speak, and then there's the problem of background noise when I use my laptop. Anything else is more science fiction than is actually plausible.

    43. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Grishnakh · · Score: 1
    44. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by smaddox · · Score: 1

      It's going to be tough running a 3 threaded game on more than 3 cores.

      And of course there is the issue that I can't even play pac-man on my phone because the controls suck so much.

    45. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Jeff+Carr · · Score: 1

      Even better, with a touch screen, EVERYWHERE you put your fingers, initially, is the homerow. That's pretty brilliant actually. In addition, it could learn your common typos, and put the keys in the best place for your fingers. The only downside to a keyboard customized for you, would be that other's keyboards would be less intuitive for you to use, but automatic retrieval of a new users' settings via USB key, cellphone, or a file on an website would be created about a week after the keyboard itself.

      I'd just like to change around quotes/brackets for certain programming languages and add some of the special characters I use often, like an em and en dash.
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    46. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      but, with touch pad based keyboards it can sense where all your fingers are and always have you hitting the intended key no mater where you place your hands. It can sense where your fingers are and then start cording them based on pressure.

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    47. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Erpava · · Score: 1

      A small electrical shock or static sensation could serve the same purpose.

    48. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by david.given · · Score: 1

      My fingers land right on the middle of the keys; there's no fumbling around the edges until I get good purchase on the middle and finally press it.

      No, you don't --- but you do get loads of feedback from the shape of the key that lets you know where you hit the key. This allows you to continuously adjust the position of your hands and fingers so that you continue to hit the middle of the keys.

      That's why it's so easy to adapt to a keyboard of a different size. If it was simply a matter of 'knowing where the keys are', it would be impossible. Instead, you continuously adapt based on the kinaesthetic feedback you get from your hands. It's not something you notice consciously unless you look for it --- or until you try typing on a keyboard that doesn't provide those subtle cues.

      Try an eee some time; okay, the keyboard's small, but it's not that small --- it's so hard to type on because the keys are flat. Which is a really dumb idea and I don't know why they did it. But even the eee is better than a real, old-fashioned membrane keyboard... like on the ZX81. *shudder*

    49. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by bazorg · · Score: 1

      that good reason would be helping blind folks use a keyboard?

    50. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by edwdig · · Score: 1

      When you sit down you easily see the position of the keyboard

      Only if you look at the keyboard when you go to use it. I don't. It's usually on a draw under the desk. I sit down then pull it out and place my hands without looking. I also frequently take my hands off the keyboard while at the computer, using the bumps to place my hands back on without looking.

    51. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My fingers land right on the middle of the keys

      with a touchscreen, you can just define the middle of the keys to be wherever your fingers first land :) Just "assume home row" -- anywhere -- and start typing...
    52. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Allador · · Score: 1

      I'm confused, are we talking about the voiceless neckband type of technology that went by a few days ago? Or just general purpose telepathy?

      How would the keyboard know what you meant to hit when you put your finger randomly 'there'.

      Even if it assumed that where you put your fingers first is the 'home row', what about when you type imperfectly? There are plenty of times when touch typing that one finger will be a little off, and hit the wrong key, or two keys at once. When that happens, I can detect the mistake and correct it, without ever having to look at the keyboard.

      In that situation, how would the screen know what I meant to do? Should it assume the right key, or the 'actually hit' key. What about when you hit the presence of two at the same time?

    53. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Sciros · · Score: 1

      Helping folks who don't like looking at the keyboard while typing! I know it must be hard to think about touch-screens outside the realm of the iPhone and Nintendo DS, but if you were to use a touch-screen in place of the keyboard on your table, you'd be hard-pressed not to look at it as you type if you don't want all sorts of typos and what-not.

      Put your hands down on a flat surface and pretend you're typing. Don't look at your hands as you do this. Then actually look down and notice that it's really not that easy to maintain consistent distances without tactile feedback. Hitting a 'y' as opposed to a '6' or '7' becomes rather non-trivial.

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    54. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by babyrat · · Score: 1

      Are you the same guy that said large flash based storage disks or wouldn't ever be available 7 years ago?

    55. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by chriscoolc · · Score: 1

      there's a reason there's a bump on the 'F' and 'J' keys on the keyboard
      In 2015 you'll be paying a subscription fee for the Windows Experience Enhancement Module that blesses your system with F'nJ-bump keyboard compatibility.
    56. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Jherek+Carnelian · · Score: 1

      No but seriously, I'm curious what you're talking about here. Nissan has a lane-departure detector that "rumbles" the steering wheel if it thinks you are drifting out of your lane. They are trying to mimic the feel of the "rumble strips" that are on the shoulder of some highways.
    57. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Jason+Pollock · · Score: 1

      Not provide a bump, HAVE a bump on it.

      Look at the 'F' key, notice that little ridge? How about the "J" key?

      Try touch typing without individual keys. Can you touch type on the iPhone? Try it. Post a reply here without looking at the keys. Keep your head up, talk to the guy next to you and type your reply.

    58. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Brian+Gordon · · Score: 1

      No way when I switch keyboards, I don't adjust. I'm a good typist that can type a word or so a second on my keyboard, but I have to stare at my hands when typing on an unfamiliar keyboard.

    59. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by funaho · · Score: 1

      Well I know what I'm ordering when I get my big paycheck at the end of the month. :-) Thanks for the link!

    60. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Omestes · · Score: 1

      I already find most laptop keyboards difficult to type with due to the reduced gaps (and therefore tactile feedback) compared to a standard keyboard.

      Anecdotally: I found the opposite to be true. When my main computer (with a real keyboard) died I used a G4 iBook for 3 years as my primary box, with its little, flat keyboard. At first I had a problem with it since it was hard to differentiate one key from another tactilely, but after some I had a hard time using regular keyboards since my fingers got used to gliding much closer to the keys, and got used to less travel thanks to the lack of gaps.

      The only real problem I had with the iBook keyboard (and all laptop keyboards) is the varying layouts, such as how they handle the hidden num-pad, and the page control keys (such as "home" and "page up" etc...), and how the iBook had a crappy "feature" that made the laptop specific keys take priority over the function keys. (F1 should be F! first, and not display brightness or volume).

      Then again I never was a "touch typist", being completely self-taught.

      I'm not saying your wrong, but that it is largely a degree of what your used to.

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    61. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by protolith · · Score: 1

      Its really not hard to put bumps in glass or plastic for a touch screen.

      The tactile feel of button location for a default keyboard wouold be easy, the tactile feel of keys being depressed is where teh touch screen would likely fail to be an improvement.

      If teh screen is flexible, corresponding hoes or dimples could be placed behing the button locations to allow the feel of buttons being depressed. I would expect flexy touch screen button holes to be a big step back regarding tactile feel.

    62. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Sciros · · Score: 1

      I can't wait! Yeah, they'll probably manage to swindle folks into buying all sorts of F'n modules, and that's why they're going along with that business plan in the first place.

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    63. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      IIRC, power steering doesn't transfer any vibrations or the "feel of the road" to the driver. This is apparently disconcerting and dangerous for the driver, so they implemented artificially induced vibrations. The drivers now feel like they are driving a car rather than playing an xbox.

    64. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

      Well I am not sure what points he is speaking of but I have noticed in the past 10 years that the sizes of automotive buttons have changed. For a while (maybe between 2001 to 2003) they were getting smaller on many cars. Probably trying to add functionality with just more buttons? But all the newest cars I have seen use large buttons and even larger knobs. I like knobs. Easy to grab.

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    65. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Idbar · · Score: 1

      It caught my attention that the one called "cario" apparently can be used, in the future, while you are driving. Not only that, because people already text message while driving, but it apparently looks like the car of the future is a... kind of look like... a ford escort? Would that be the car we'll be driving in 2015? I hope not.

    66. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I presume the OP is talking about modern power steering systems providing more feedback.

    67. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by meiocyte · · Score: 3, Funny

      mo eadmlo! if mawid etoi can naiej as easy as djej!

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    68. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by uglyduckling · · Score: 1

      uhhh... no - power steering does transfer vibrations to the driver. There's still a direct connection between the steering wheel and the steering rack, but when the steering wheel is turned the power assist kicks in and helps to turn the drive wheels. If you've ever tried to drive a car when the power assist has broken then you'll find out...

    69. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
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      Of course, the alternative would be going into a cafe and trying to search the internet for "alternative specs". I think I'll wait for the direct neural interface, thanks.

      Of course, it would need to have an automatic shutoff as soon as it detects that you are angry. At least when you are typing, you have a while to think about what you are saying. I imagine that the early versions of the neural interface could end civilisation as we know it.

      I mean, how often do you get an email from the boss, and think "what the ^&#@ are you on?!" It's one thing to think it, but another completely as you get the sudden sinking feeling that the boss just got a new email...

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    70. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by weorthe · · Score: 1

      With adequately sophisticated software, it won't matter where the keys are. For longer stretches of touch-typing, the computer will be able to interpret your keystrokes anywhere on the screen by pattern-matching. Maybe even tell which finger is touching the screen by measuring the distances between the taps or even reading fingerprints. Or, to begin typing, you first quickly "set" the keyboard with a single reference tap, which would become an easy habit. Another alternative is static positional typing - resting all of your fingers (or just your thumbs or wrists) on the screen and tapping the fingers up and down to type.

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    71. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by SanityInAnarchy · · Score: 1

      I've got a typing style that I'm not sure I've seen duplicated anywhere. It might be due to dvorak, but I suspect it's just a habit learned... I tend to slide my fingers between keys, especially when I need to hit two keys, one right after the other, with the same finger.

      Example: Take the word "right" -- or really anything with a 'ght' ending. That involves pressing (on a QWERTY keyboard) the u, j, and k keys, in that order. I tend to press that 'u' key, then my finger slides down to the 'j' key, then my other finger hits 'k'.

      Thus, while I do tend to like low-rise, light-touch keyboards (if that makes sense), I do need that feedback. And it might even be difficult to detect such keystrokes properly, let alone make them feel right.

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    72. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by travbrad · · Score: 1

      That's a good point, I used "normal" keyboards from the age of 4-5, and didn't really use a laptop till I was 18 or so. 10-15 years of using anything surely leaves a bias for it.

      I've actually seen a similar thing with guitars. When I started playing I played acoustic and when switching to electric found it to be a bit awkward. Now I play mostly electric and switching to acoustic seems awkward.

    73. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Nethemas+the+Great · · Score: 1

      It might work for Star Trek but I don't really see dynamic touch screen interfaces working out for anyone that needs to do rapid text entry. I don't care how fast kids can enter text messages into their iPhones or similar devices with out definite feedback cues indicating where our fingers are we'll be forced to revert to looking at our hands as we type. You'll never pull 60+ WPM that way.

      I also suspect that with out the "shock absorber" effect of traditional keyboards there's going to be far more repetitive stress injuries.

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    74. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      If you get a REALLY big paycheck, you might consider one of these instead:
      http://www.datamancer.net/keyboards/keyboards.htm

    75. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by blootooth · · Score: 1
      imtuponf this on the iPhone whilsbwatchind the bobcats game. I don't know if in even ckisr.

      Ok now I'm looking and I can type at almost the same rate that I can on my laptop. I don't have to make or approve corrections since it defaults to using what it thinks I meant. I didn't capitalize that "I". Or that one. Or put that apostrophe in didn't. I havent capitalized once. I didn't type that period. Or spell period right. Or spell right right. This keyboard does all that for me. Is it perfect? No. I had to hit the character key to get that question mark. But, it is very good. And it's tiny!

      Imagine this with ten years of tech and use behind it. Oh, you might still use your clicky keyboard, but your kids will make fun of you.

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    76. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

      I have one, and a number of old model ms, it doesnt have the same feel unfortunately. Still a nice keyboard, and it definitely gets used, but I so much prefer the 20-year old keyboards. Next time I need a new KB for another machine I'll spend the time to find another M.

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    77. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by horn_in_gb · · Score: 1

      Two things:
      1. If you can type on your iPhone as fast as you can on your laptop, then you are a slow typist, so your opinion on speed really doesn't matter. You'll probably never get 60 WPM on your iPhone, and definitely not the 100+ WPM that a "power-typists" have.

      2. Predictive text is incredibly useful, but only up to a point. Unfortunately, it sucks if you aren't typing normal english words. For example, try typing this message on your iPhone: "Dear Svrisathana, the composer's name is Shostakovich, and it cannot be spelled Schostakovitch or Shostackovitsch. Will we meet at AX-2470Y or AY-2470X?"

      (To say nothing of foreign languages. Try typing this on your phone: "Ni3 hao3, wo3 shi4 fei1chang2 ben4 de5 lao3wai4")

      Predictive text is nearly useless for the bulk of programming -- sure, variable and function names, auto-suggest, etc. are great, but since the general keywords in languages are short, and punctuation/non-letter keys are very important, touch-typists have a huge advantage.

    78. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by blootooth · · Score: 1

      1. I am not incredibly fast. Therefore I am more likely to represent a larger majority of typists. Industry designs for the broad part of the curve, not the ends. 2. Predictive text is going to be improved. It will support your vocabulary, be available for multiple languages, proper nouns and code conventions. This is not the end of the matter though. You see, fast typists with real programing skills will be ( very quickly ) typing code to make it recognize your fingertips individually, pattern match your typing style, and other as yet untyped features. Look, all I'm saying is that change happens. Keyboards are not the best solution and will be replaced. When and by what I won't guess, but along the way this tech will be made better and better. All of the concerns you pose are valid. But they won't keep the keyboard alive forever. They'll be solved.

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    79. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by m50d · · Score: 1
      It looks pretty as a rendered image, but functionally I'd never own a computer for regular use that didn't have a normal keyboard - unless you could speak to the computer as you would in Star Trek land.

      Not even then, in my book. I've tried voice recognition and given it up, not because it was inaccurate, but because it was slower and more tiring than just typing what I wanted to.

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    80. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by cbreaker · · Score: 1

      Ohh, I don't know. If you could say "Computer, show me the 10 most endangered species on the list" and then "Computer, show more detail on the white bengal tiger" then I'd use the keyboard a hell of a lot less.

      But I agree, right NOW, they keyboard is a lot faster. Sometimes I can even type faster than I can say something.

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    81. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by GargamelSpaceman · · Score: 1

      I've never typed on a hard flat non-keyboard, but just tapping my fingers on my desk for a few moments, I can see what you mean by painful. Maybe not having to depress a key might make me type more softly over time though, but then again maybe some pressure is neccessary for the finger gymnastics of typing. I am also not sure one could get used to having no tactile feedback.

      I've been typing for twenty years, all day every day at work for the past eleven years, and only in the last three years or so have I learned to stop looking at the keyboard. I need all the help I can get!

      Here's what I envision: Your cell phone is your computer. It can be placed on your desk and project against a wall or onto the desk, and it can project a keyboard to type on if you want it to. It can also see your fingers to tell what you are typing.

      For ultra-convenient portability, all you need is the cell phone/computer device itself, but for serious long term use, you would typically have a projector screen for a higher quality image than could be obtained from just projecting on any old surface like a desk or a wall. For added resolution, a rubbery roll-up keyboard mat made of the same silicone as dildoes are made from is laid down on the desk, and the keyboard is no longer projected, giving you more screen real estate and a cushioned tactile surface. The phone/computer detects your finger's position to know what keys you are pressing as before, and it also reads a special dot on the dildo-material keyboard to know the position of the mat. But the keyboard mat is pure dongstuff. It has no electronics inside. They would be like mousepads. Dirt cheap and disposable if they got too dirty.

      If it turns out electronic eyes can't effectively detect keystrokes, then some kind of more intelligent keyboard mat would have to be devised. There might be a tiny version that could be rolled out and stored in the same form factor as the phone device with larger versions optionally available. Dongstuff with imbedded wires still seems like a fairly good way of making one of these things. It could just be scrunched up and put in your pocket.

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    82. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by cynyr · · Score: 1

      Only if you still type as hard as you would on a normal keyboard, I'm hoping these are sensitive enough for me to merely rest my finger on it and have it pick it up. My favorite keyboard to type on so far has been the one on my Fujisu P2110 with a 2mm stroke. I do agree that with out edges/bumps typing would be a slow. There really only needs to be the flex that is already present in most touchscreens (LCD based ones I have used anyways.)

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    83. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      point 1: it'd base it on almost a chording algorithm through identifying where fingers are currently and what keys would be adjacent to there.

      point 2: I'd guess the resolution would be high enough that unless you really overstepped your typing into the wrong key or hit dead center between the two keys the software could pick it out pretty easy.

      I'm not saying you have to like it, or that it wont require a retraining of your typing skills I'm just saying that it is more than possible.

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    84. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by spazdor · · Score: 1

      Those ones had rubberized membrane buttons though, which are very terrible. If such a thing were implemented with new-style capacitance touchpads, I bet we'd like them better.

      Maybe not. That's the point of all this R&D shit, right?

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    85. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by m50d · · Score: 1
      Sometimes I can even type faster than I can say something.

      I'm substantially faster typing than speaking, every time. I attribute this to having taken a weekend, switched to dvorak and learnt to touch-type, a course of action I highly recommend to anyone who does a lot of typing. (I did it because I was having an RSI scare rather than to speed me up, but it's worked very well for that as well)

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    86. Re:In the future nobody touches anything by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      You have never seen a Teenager Text message on a normal phone.

      They are doing this rather rapidly one a 12 digit keyboard. With little feedback. It is all about training and getting use to it. And less if A is Better then B

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  5. here is my reply by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In Computerworld style.. to continue reading this comment please click next [1-20]

  6. dual screen... by TheSHAD0W · · Score: 1

    Speaking about dual screens, it'd be really nice if someone would make a 17" LCD monitor with a folding base for use as a 2nd screen for a multimedia notebook. Just keep it in the bag when on the road and only set it up when you need it.

    1. Re:dual screen... by Culture20 · · Score: 1
  7. Wrong. by youthoftoday · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Given those concept graphics none of those will be my laptop of the future. I won't be using anything with a 'start' button.

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  8. Not to poo-poo, but... by spazdor · · Score: 5, Funny

    This concept art all looks like my first-year 3d design projects. Are they developing new plastics that will automatically produce lens-flares against any light source available? God, I hope so.

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    1. Re:Not to poo-poo, but... by Trent+Hawkins · · Score: 1

      This concept art all looks like my first-year 3d design projects. Are they developing new plastics that will automatically produce lens-flares against any light source available? God, I hope so. In the future, everything will have Bloom
    2. Re:Not to poo-poo, but... by sootman · · Score: 1

      Looking at the pics what caught my eye was this one. 7 years in the future and people are STILL demanding XP instead of Vista!

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    3. Re:Not to poo-poo, but... by andphi · · Score: 1

      Obligatory Penny Arcade reference:

      http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/08/22

  9. 2015? by antikaos · · Score: 1

    Looks more like something I'd expect to see coming out later this year.

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  10. I miss my buttons... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I wonder why people keep thinking that touch sensitive keyboard without real buttons is a good idea for a regular computer...

  11. One thing I noticed... by brennanw · · Score: 3, Interesting

    ... it looks like the laptops of the future all have crappy keyboards.

    It's the whole "gee, look, with touch-sensitive screens we can paint a keyboard on the screen that you can use instead of an actual keyboard!"

    How the heck are you supposed to touch-type on something that gives you no tactile response?

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    1. Re:One thing I noticed... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How the heck are you supposed to touch-type on something that gives you no tactile response?
      These aren't designed for people to work on, they're designed for the mass market of email, youtube, and internet shopping. They're targeted at mainstream users who don't touch type, but can thumb 20 wpm. Fashion accessories for Fisher-Price computing.
    2. Re:One thing I noticed... by advocate_one · · Score: 1

      How the heck are you supposed to touch-type on something that gives you no tactile response?

      by putting a feedback mechanism in the screen to push back and give slightly when the keystroke is registered... and I'd like to note that I'm putting this idea out into the open and heaven help anyone who tries to patent the idea... because as far as I'm concerned, you can't patent the idea, merely the implementation, so someone will have their work cut out trying to come up with a mechanism to do this... and that I would consider patentable...

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    3. Re:One thing I noticed... by gfreeman · · Score: 5, Funny

      "How the heck are you supposed to touch ... something that gives you no tactile response?"

      May I introduce you to my wife?

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    4. Re:One thing I noticed... by autophile · · Score: 1

      Forget the nontactile keyboard. The first concept looks like it's displaying an old CoCo chiclet keyboard. DO NOT WANT!

      --Rob

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    5. Re:One thing I noticed... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      This is the way the computers worked in Star Trek: TNG. Supposedly, while they just looked like reconfigurable flat panels, they used small force-fields to provide tactile response and feel like real keys.

      Since we're a long way from being able to generate force fields of any kind, I think this flat-screen keyboard stuff is a little premature.

    6. Re:One thing I noticed... by DocHoncho · · Score: 1

      Here ya go. Expect a patent though :(
      http://www.redferret.net/?p=9533

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    7. Re:One thing I noticed... by troicstar · · Score: 1

      crappy keyboards and washed out screens with newer poorer contrast and super-reflective coating.

    8. Re:One thing I noticed... by grrrl · · Score: 1

      How the heck are you supposed to touch-type on something that gives you no tactile response?

      by putting a feedback mechanism in the screen to push back and give slightly when the keystroke is registered.


      Yeah it's called the macbook keyboard and it sucks!! I am constantly hitting keys that don't register.

  12. Touch screen keyboards by Toreo+asesino · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is it just me that hates the idea of a touch screen keyboard? I like feeling keys bounce back; it's not healthy for your fingers to not have some cushioning at the very least.

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    1. Re:Touch screen keyboards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As they say, "The bigger the cushin' the sweeter the pushin' "

    2. Re:Touch screen keyboards by CookedGryphon · · Score: 1

      There are ways a touch screen could give the impression of feedback from keys, a morphing surface has already been mentioned, but there's also ideas like: http://code.google.com/p/iphone-haptics/

    3. Re:Touch screen keyboards by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 1

      I also hate the idea of a touch screen keyboard. I have hot dog fingers. I *will* smash my fingers through the keyboard eventually. Plus, I frequently rest my fingers on my keyboard. I don't want to accidentally press a key. One of the things I look for when demoing new keyboards is a good response. I like the click-clack of older keyboards to the mushiness of many of the new ones that have come since the first Microsoft Natural. The only evolution in keyboards I want to see is cool backlighting and LED key faces like on that one uber-expensive keyboard.

    4. Re:Touch screen keyboards by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      Actually it seems to be repeated impacts that cause some of the problems, combined with poor wrist positioning. A constantly bent wrist will crimp the nerve, and a standard rubber-dome keyboard will cause repeated impacts making touch typing painful. Buckling-spring keyboards avoid the impact problem by providing extra key travel beyond the activation point, touch-screen keyboards increase the problem.

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  13. Saifu notebook by mcbutterbuns · · Score: 2, Funny

    From TFA:
    The Siafu concept notebook, designed for the blind by Jonathan Lucas, omits a display altogether. Images from applications and Web sites are converted into corresponding 3-D shapes on Siafu's surface. It can be used for reading a Braille newspaper, feeling the shape of someone's face..."

    Think of the possibilities!
    Oh how the Slashdot crowd would love to get their hands on one of these... literally

    1. Re:Saifu notebook by spazdor · · Score: 1

      Imagine the possibilities for the porn industry. ...And post them here!

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    2. Re:Saifu notebook by Blitz22 · · Score: 1

      I think I'd have to make sure that it only "shows" girl/girl pr0n.

      Not that there's anything wrong with that....

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    3. Re:Saifu notebook by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Think of the possibilities!

      ph34r the goatse.

      guess this would be what it would take to stop people from clicking on anonymous coward links once and for all.

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    4. Re:Saifu notebook by AgentPaper · · Score: 1
      I'm reminded of "Robin Hood: Men in Tights", in which the blind servant Blinkin is reading "Ye Olde Playboy" (on a scroll, and the "centerfold" is a bas-relief of a nude woman) while sitting in the outhouse.

      "Master Robin! You've lost your arms in battle! ...But you grew a nice set of boobs..."

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    5. Re:Saifu notebook by Rebel_lord · · Score: 1

      1 word people ...

      Porn

  14. Hardly "futuristic"... by TripMaster+Monkey · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A whole bunch of "futuristic" designs, and not one that utilizes a flexible LCD.

    With a flexible LCD that rolls up when not in use, coupled with a flexible keyboard that likewise rolls up, one can escape (at least partially), the limiting factor of computer design...that is, having a system that a human can interface with comfortably.

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    1. Re:Hardly "futuristic"... by tilandal · · Score: 1

      Meet the laptop of 1992: http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2007/07/19/forgotten_tech_ibm_thinkpad/ 15 years on an we still use the same basic design. I doubt that another 7 years will drastically change what a laptop is. The reason laptops wont change much is a laptop is designed well for its intended purpose. That was as true 15 years ago as it is today. What other new devices might appear in the future is a different question all together. Laptops are now replacing desktops and PDA's and multimedia devices are replacing laptops. What new devices will emerge in the next decade is the interesting question.

    2. Re:Hardly "futuristic"... by Sloppy · · Score: 1

      Agreed. These things are either too big or too rigid. If it doesn't fit in my pocket when not in use, then it's not the laptop of the future.

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    3. Re:Hardly "futuristic"... by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      How does rolling it up solve anything?

      I'm not the only one that sees no appeal at all in rollable displays. What appeal do *you* see in a rollable display? Do you think we should go back to scrolls and scroll cases from books? Do you not see the similarity?

      Ideally, computing, communications, and encryption would become sufficiently ubiquitous that we don't have to carry our computers around with us anymore (This is already true for many people). Then you don't have the problem of making something both portable and comfortable. You can pick one to zero detriment.

    4. Re:Hardly "futuristic"... by HalAtWork · · Score: 1

      Seriously, how else are we supposed to have an authentic mad fold-in experience on the web?

    5. Re:Hardly "futuristic"... by wsanders · · Score: 1

      Mostly, a rollable OLED screen wont break if you drop it. The biggest advance in mobile computing of the decade will be Real Soon Now when the LCD is dead and gone.

      I for one only ask for ubiquity, like you. $50 per month per device for network connectivity will hopefully be a thing of the past in 2015.

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    6. Re:Hardly "futuristic"... by ivan256 · · Score: 1

      I plastic OLED panel doesn't break when you drop it either, and it doesn't have to roll. Rollable displays will be hard to keep flat, you'll have to worry about creases, etc.

      Light emitting displays are annoying anyway. Ideally somebody comes up with a display that resembles a printed surface.

  15. Confidential....riiiiight by Overzeetop · · Score: 3, Funny

    FTFS: "allowing you to slide your finger across the screen to immediately shut off the display and keep what you're working on confidential"

    Will it automatically hide the box of kleenex and bottle of hand lotion, too?

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    1. Re:Confidential....riiiiight by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will it automatically hide the box of kleenex and bottle of hand lotion, too? Just keep them velcroed to the underside of your desk surface. That way they're always out of sight, and you won't have to fish for the last few tissues: gravity will keep them ready at the box's opening.

      Yeah, I'd better post this as an AC.
    2. Re:Confidential....riiiiight by fr4nk · · Score: 1

      Not to mention that the screen will get pretty gross in this scenario.

    3. Re:Confidential....riiiiight by TeknoHog · · Score: 2, Funny

      That's why they call it "GUI".

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  16. Think Smaller by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What some companies are attempting to capitalize on is the miniaturization of computers into something the size of a Motorola RAZR and utilizing HUD technology. The only real limitation is the power source, considering how powerful small processors are getting, and how solid state are becoming set to replace hard drives in portable computing. It doesn't take long to figure out the potential uses of this technology, and it's being used already (but with clunky computers and HUD displays). You'll probably see early adopters in 2015-2020. This is far more practical than a double-LCD laptop, which seems hardly innovative, and in fact this article should be a joke, since it's setting the bar so low.

  17. On a car steering wheel!!?!? by rminsk · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Cario concept notebook from Anna Lopez can be carried around by its handle, positioned like an easel or placed on a car's steering wheel. Clearly drivers of the future need even more distractions while they are driving.
    1. Re:On a car steering wheel!!?!? by Digi-John · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately you only read part of TFA, stopping as soon as you saw that juicy bit to post on here. The next paragraph says that since the laptop rests against the dashboard, you can only use it while stationary.

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    2. Re:On a car steering wheel!!?!? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      We'll probably never have flying cars, at least on this planet, due to the high energy consumption. It's just not reasonable. But we COULD have self-driving cars relatively soon. Does anyone really doubt that cars will soon be doing a better job of driving than a soccer mom on a cellphone?

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    3. Re:On a car steering wheel!!?!? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I disagree. There's more energy on this planet than we know what to do with. The amount of energy striking this planet's surface every day from the Sun is enormous. The problem is figuring out how to harness all that energy. We have PV solar panels, but they're expensive to make and inefficient. If we could somehow figure out how to do something similar to what plants do, we'd solve our energy problems, since plants are almost 100% efficient at converting solar energy into chemical energy.

      However, I do think we'll probably never have flying cars, not for technical or technological reasons, but because humans are too stupid and greedy to create advanced societies where these kinds of developments can become reality, and instead, we'll probably have another Dark Ages very soon with a giant population implosion (due to war, disease, and famine) and a huge loss of technology, taking us back to horses and buggies.

    4. Re:On a car steering wheel!!?!? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      If we could somehow figure out how to do something similar to what plants do, we'd solve our energy problems, since plants are almost 100% efficient at converting solar energy into chemical energy.

      No, plants are almost 100% efficient at converting the something like 2% of solar energy which is in frequencies they can actually use into chemical energy.

      A green leaf reflects almost all green light and uses primarily fairly narrow bands of red and blue light, although all non-green frequencies have some effect.

      However, I do think we'll probably never have flying cars, not for technical or technological reasons, but because humans are too stupid and greedy to create advanced societies where these kinds of developments can become reality, and instead, we'll probably have another Dark Ages very soon with a giant population implosion (due to war, disease, and famine) and a huge loss of technology, taking us back to horses and buggies.

      The problem with flying cars isn't the energy, it's storing and releasing the energy. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

      I don't see the whole world going dark ages at once. But there's room for a comet or an asteroid, I guess.

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    5. Re:On a car steering wheel!!?!? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      No, plants are almost 100% efficient at converting the something like 2% of solar energy which is in frequencies they can actually use into chemical energy.

      A green leaf reflects almost all green light and uses primarily fairly narrow bands of red and blue light, although all non-green frequencies have some effect.


      Hmm.. good point.

      Well, anyway, my original point is that there's a ton of energy hitting the earth just from sunlight which has yet to be efficiently captured. Plus, even more sunlight could be captured outside of earth's atmosphere, using satellites or the moon, and the energy beamed to earth with microwaves.

      I don't see the whole world going dark ages at once. But there's room for a comet or an asteroid, I guess.

      I tend to be pessimistic that way.

  18. They didn't! by Idiomatick · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "2TB hard disk drive, which should be plenty of room for even the biggest data hog, the experts speculated."

    Who in this day and age would say 'that should be plenty' man i'm looking at having a few hundred bluray-sucessor movies i'm sure that'll be over 2TB. Silly people

    1. Re:They didn't! by jaguth · · Score: 1

      By 2015, 2TB should be enough space for MS Windows 10. *should*

  19. WHOAAAAAAA by atcsharp · · Score: 2, Funny

    By then you linux users should have about 16,000 distros to pick from. Have fun.

    1. Re:WHOAAAAAAA by pharwell · · Score: 1

      Nah, by then Ubuntu will have defeated every other distro in combat. Hundreds of distros go in, only one comes out!

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    2. Re:WHOAAAAAAA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And you Windows users will have just as many "modules" to choose from Windows 7, each with their subscription fees. Have fun.

  20. Tactile response by antikaos · · Score: 1

    I bet by 2015 we'll have smooth touch screens that DO have tactile response. And those concepts are way too thick, I doubt anything's going to be thicker than the Mac Air after 2010 or so.

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  21. Vista?? by ZenDragon · · Score: 1

    Well hopefully we arent using Vista in 2015 as that picture would suggest! haha

  22. Worst ideas ever by Sciros · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Seriously, the people who came up with this stuff are completely unimaginative and idiotic. Tactile feedback for typing is almost a necessity given you *don't f-ing look at the keyboard while typing*!! The only "future laptop" with some actual touch feedback they showed was the oily blob, which I don't even know how to approach. If I want to replace my laptop with an oily blob, I'll gain 200 pounds and sit on the table myself.

    The one that turns into a book viewer if you turn it 90 degrees is a total joke. Seriously, take your laptop right now, turn it 90 degrees so that the break between the two "halves" is vertical, and tell me that's a comfortable way to handle reading material. Unless it's laying flat on the table (in which case it better be quite small) it's completely unmanageable.

    The one they showed slung over the steering wheel of a car, that's just bad. BAD BAD BAD! Hey guys, here's a piece of crap with a touch-screen keyboard you have to stare at in order to use that you can hang right on your steering wheel! And then what, drive and type? That looks like the most uncomfortable thing ever even if you're parked.

    I give all these "laptops of the future" an EPIC FAIL out of 10.

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    1. Re:Worst ideas ever by ZenDragon · · Score: 1

      I would have to agree with you, those are some of the worst designs I have ever seen. Though the oily blob thing we originally intended to give blind people a more interactive interface, its not really intended to be used as a normal input device.

    2. Re:Worst ideas ever by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 1

      Hell, I *don't* touch type, and still want tactile feedback. And with touch screens I tend to not want to stricke it with and force, so I'd be all careful with it and getting about 1 WPM.

    3. Re:Worst ideas ever by chappel · · Score: 1

      I've got one of the (now defunct) fingerworks keyboards (the precurser to the multi-touch, prior to Apple buying them out of existence) and it really isn't that bad to touch-type on - you just have to sit square to the keyboard, or your fingers don't hit the right area of the keyboard on the 'fringe' keys. I love the fact that you don't have to move your hands off the keyboard to use the 'mouse', and the chording makes for great keyboard shortcuts. There is nominal stress, since it takes just the slightest contact with the surface to register a keystroke. I think it would suck to have it on a screen that you were trying to use for a display, though - unless it were some version of the 'Optimus Maximus' with combo oled and multitouch.

      I'd love to see a product with the idea someone had for multi-touch on the backside of a cell phone and a screen on the front, with a 'ghosted' fingerprint on the display to indicate where you were touching - no issues with the hand blocking the screen, reduced fingerprints on screen problems - very clever - although typing would require a whole new technique to be learned before it wouldn't suck.

    4. Re:Worst ideas ever by Ambiguous+Coward · · Score: 1

      In all fairness, the one hanging over the steering wheel of the car isn't that crazy. Realize that, in 2015, cars will drive themselves. I read just the other day that the technology to do so is just around the corner. So, using a laptop like that is actually a really great idea. Also, the cars will fly. That's coming soon, too.

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    5. Re:Worst ideas ever by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

      The one they showed slung over the steering wheel of a car, that's just bad. BAD BAD BAD! Perhaps they are laboring under the discredited notion that every vehicle currently on the road right now will be replaced with fully automated self-driving SMART cars, leaving the driver free to manage other things.

      And then what, drive and type? Agreed. It is bad enough to see people texting on their cell phones today while operating four (4) tons of SUV moving down the road at 25+ mph. Just imagine them trying to edit their spreadsheets on the way to work, the airbag would deploy and smash that laptop right through their face, which might be a fitting end for the self-important ass of a spreadsheet jockey, but small consolation to the passengers of the other vehicle(s) involved in the accident.
    6. Re:Worst ideas ever by Sabz5150 · · Score: 1

      Seriously, take your laptop right now, turn it 90 degrees so that the break between the two "halves" is vertical, and tell me that's a comfortable way to handle reading material. You mean like... a book?
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    7. Re:Worst ideas ever by felipekk · · Score: 1

      Regarding the steering wheel touch screen device: I hope they at least add a function to call 911 when they detect a forehead. I bet this will be the most used feature once you get something that distracting on the steering wheel...

    8. Re:Worst ideas ever by EriktheGreen · · Score: 1

      .... and it doesn't exist anyway. The "magneclay" material is total fiction, and may not be possible.

    9. Re:Worst ideas ever by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 1

      Seriously, take your laptop right now, turn it 90 degrees so that the break between the two "halves" is vertical, and tell me that's a comfortable way to handle reading material. You mean like... a book? I think he means literally like the image on the site, free-standing, not held in your hands like a book, newspaper, or double-wide tablet. What that laptop needs is a built-in fold-out easel.
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    10. Re:Worst ideas ever by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      I could use this laptop to play DNF while the autopilot takes my flying car to my 4 hour a day job.

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    11. Re:Worst ideas ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well said, Sciros. They are ALL crap designs. I'm typing on a $120 Cherry MX keyboard that I bought because I'm a touch typist - imagine what your fingers would feel like after typing for only a few seconds on a bloody screen! How would you feel where the keys are?

      All the ideas were shit - a joke.

    12. Re:Worst ideas ever by Sabz5150 · · Score: 1

      I think he means literally like the image on the site, free-standing, not held in your hands like a book, newspaper, or double-wide tablet. What that laptop needs is a built-in fold-out easel. What's the point in that. I don't think the image was to illustrate a LITERAL use of the laptop, only it's capabilities.

      The keyboard idea is a bit horrible though... I think something like that will be treated more like a tablet PC than a traditional laptop. Breed that thing with a Macbook Air and you've got something.
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    13. Re:Worst ideas ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I DO f-ing look at the keyboard while typing, you insensitive clod!

  23. Still running XP... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    From the pictures it seems that MS has extended the life of XP... as they clearly show XP, not VISTA running...

    Probably the only prediction in this article that's going to come true.

    1. Re:Still running XP... by Warll · · Score: 0

      What are you talking about? The only one which doesn't have the toolbar hidden is running Windows Vista. Now whats really interesting is that you can clearly see a anime derived wallpaper behind the clutter. PS: I'm talking about this photo: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9070218/

  24. yea, and what if you are.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  25. Meh by CSMatt · · Score: 1

    Not interested. I'd rather have a hoverboard.

  26. accessory lighting keyboard by SupremeDiety · · Score: 1

    we don't type in 2015, the keys light up as a result of our brain activity...

  27. Huh? by moosesocks · · Score: 1

    The future of computing is the Nintendo DS?

    Seriously, this is quite a cool concept, although I (like many others here) remain a tad skeptical, especially with regard to the lack of a keyboard.

    On the other hand, if they used the "blank space" currently occupied by the wrist wrests as a visual multitouch interface, a few interesting possibilities open up. New technologies and cost reductions are going to allow us to considerably modify UI metaphors into something quite a bit more abstract. Whether or not this actually happens, of course, remains to be seen.

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  28. small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by JSBiff · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've always thought the idea of dual screens on the Gameboy DS was a bit of a strange idea. I mean, why not just use one screen that is twice as big? Then, games that want to use a 'dual screen' concept can always split the screen in half and draw one set of stuff to one half, and another set of stuff to the other half. But, other games can use it as a single, large screen.

    I personally think it probably comes down to cost - it's cheaper for Nintendo to buy two smaller screens than a single large screen. My understanding of LCD technology is that, apparently, it's difficult to grow the crystals without bad pixels, so that as the screens get larger, they rapidly get more expensive, because it's decreasingly likely that you'll get an LCD panel of a particular size without flaws - so all the flawed ones either get thrown away, or maybe they can cut them down to smaller displays (that is, cut out the bad part and end up with 1 or 2 smaller panels) and sold more cheaply at the small size?

    Anyhow - *my* laptop of the future has a simple white (or neutral color) flap onto which a display can be projected, and the flap can be folded under the laptop when I want to project onto another surface, like a projection screen or white wall. That is, a laptop with built-in projector, not an LCD. (I suppose, ultimately, for power consumption purposes, you'll never have a projector built in, because it would take too much energy to run, but I can dream, right?)

    1. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by c_forq · · Score: 1

      Ever think about size? Nintendo learned a few lessons from the virtual boy, one of the chief lessons learned was portable systems should be portable.

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    2. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by babyrat · · Score: 2, Informative

      (I suppose, ultimately, for power consumption purposes, you'll never have a projector built in, because it would take too much energy to run, but I can dream, right?)

      Never is a really long time...advances in battery capability (or the replacement of what we call a battery by some other power source) coupled with advances in projector technology (ie http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2704,2242734,00.asp ) may make this possible, perhaps sooner rather than later.

    3. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by Amouth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      well if you use a large incedecent murcury bulb then yea.. it isn't going to happen.. but if you use some of the new laser projector tech . then it is more than possiable..

      http://www.audioholics.com/news/editorials/laser-projectors-coming-to-cell-phones-and-pdas

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    4. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      > My understanding of LCD technology is that, apparently, it's difficult to grow the crystals without bad pixels

      Your understanding is certainly a very novel view of how the technology works. Understanding what the "L" stands for in "LCD" might be a good start.

    5. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by eu4ik · · Score: 1

      Does anyone make a folding lcd panel? I rather thought the point of the DS was that you could fold it up for better portability.

    6. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by MetalPhalanx · · Score: 1

      I don't mean to be obvious, but if they have _one_ screen, how would you suggest that they fold it? Cause lack of folding would essentially double the size of the device when it's not in use.

    7. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by FredFredrickson · · Score: 1

      Ok, thanks for missing the point completely. The Nintendo DS has two screens that are whatever size - let's say 3x3 inches. It would take precisely *no additional space* to have instead used one screen that was say 3x6 inches.
      Except that this one folds. a 3x6 requires bigger dimensions unless you can fold it.
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    8. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by Blakey+Rat · · Score: 1

      Zardoz!

      http://schend.net/images/movies/zardoz_tabernacle.png

      In the (terrible) movie, the mainframe computer that ran the "vortex" was named The Tabernacle, and its interface was small crystaline rings incorporating a projector. To see Tabernacle's output, you just aimed your ring at a nearby flat surface. (Or someone's forehead in a couple scenes.)

      Terrible movie, but decent sci-fi prediction.

    9. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by Some_Llama · · Score: 3, Funny

      "It would take precisely *no additional space* to have instead used one screen that was say 3x6 inches."

      except for that nasty crack in the screen when you try to fold it over =/

    10. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by CorSci81 · · Score: 1

      I suspect part of the reason is the lower screen is touch sensitive, the upper isn't. There's a pretty clear difference in the image quality of the two screens (especially after heavy use). I've noticed most games keep most of the action on the upper screen that isn't getting scratched up and reserve the touch screen for displaying things that are more static like inventory or actually using it for the touch functionality. And then there's the point other posters have made that until we have folding screens it's also a size concern.

    11. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Yes, it would've taken additional space. The one screen twice the size model would not fold up to fit in your pocket. It also would've been more expensive extending the touch screen to twice the area, and, for that matter, two LCD screens are a lot cheaper than one LCD screen twice the size anyways. It makes sense from a lot of different angles.

    12. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by gerardolm · · Score: 1

      You all just missed the point that one of them is a touchscreen while the other isn't. Making one huge screen's right half touch-sensitive while the other isn't? Don't think so.

    13. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by jo42 · · Score: 1

      Someone should tell the various social cliques that Zardoz was first at putting 'z' after words (like "needz" from that screen cap). The cliques are copying something that is over 33 years old... Narf!

    14. Re:small dual screens is kind of a dumb idea by bandmassa · · Score: 1

      Anyhow - *my* laptop of the future has a simple white (or neutral color) flap onto which a display can be projected, and the flap can be folded under the laptop when I want to project onto another surface, like a projection screen or white wall. That is, a laptop with built-in projector, not an LCD. (I suppose, ultimately, for power consumption purposes, you'll never have a projector built in, because it would take too much energy to run, but I can dream, right?) Where can I sign up for one of those?! ;-) Seriously, on the projector side, those little Laser projectors that Motorola and BLO have been working on apparently don't use anymore grunt than a largish laser pointer.
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  29. I don't want a laptop at all by geophile · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What I want is my 1TB USB keychain (or iphone) to have my favorite OS, apps, and all my data, and to be able to plug it into CPU/keyboard/mouse/display/diskless/OSless stations in airplanes, cafes, hotels, etc.

    The various Linux-on-a-thumbdrive distributions and products are a step in the right direction. What we really need now is for vendors to design stations that these doodads can plug into.

    1. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by j4s0n · · Score: 1

      Amen.

    2. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by spookymonster · · Score: 1

      Why even plug it in? Why not go with a combo of RFID/Wi-fi/wireless USB when using a Pox - an abbreviation for Public Box... as well as a good mnemonic for remembering proper data hygiene when accessing one ;). Drop your key/RFID reader on the Pox's pad for handshaking, and you're off. When it comes to public terminals, my authentication of it's identity is far more important than it's veracity of mine.

      I could possibly see plugging it into a (power only) port to recharge/reduce the drain on the battery, but trust my 'key to the electronic equivalent of a glory hole? NEVER! ;)

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    3. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by Frequency+Domain · · Score: 2

      You only think that's what you want, until you realize that somebody will have been on the hardware before you and set up a virtualization environment which looks like you own the hardware, but is quietly logging your keystrokes and mining your sensitive data.

    4. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Are you nuts? You're going to trust airlines, cafes and hotels to provide properly-working computers to plug your USB keychain into?

      There's a reason everyone carries a whole computer around with them now, instead of just relying on businesses to provide sharable computers. When such things have been tried in the past, it's been a disaster: the computers weren't well set-up, were infected with viruses, didn't work right, didn't have the software people needed, and worse, had an enormous per-minute charge to use. It's cheaper and easier to just carry around your own computer than try to borrow someone else's.

    5. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      VMWare is actually working on this, by having your OS, apps and data in a virtual machine on a thumb drive along with the VMWare player software for several different OSes.

      Plug in the thumb drive, it launches the virtual machine and un-suspends your OS to the place you were last.

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    6. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by maxume · · Score: 1

      Ok, but I want the brain of my laptop to look an awful lot like a thumbdrive, so that when I get home, I can plug it into my TV, and also use it on trusted hardware in other locations.

      Mostly, if just needs to be really easy for my widget to drive an arbitrary screen and accept input from whatever device happens to be around, to make it easier to show mom those pictures, or give that presentation, or whatever.

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    7. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by Grishnakh · · Score: 2

      Ok, but I want the brain of my laptop to look an awful lot like a thumbdrive, so that when I get home, I can plug it into my TV, and also use it on trusted hardware in other locations.

      That's the crux of the problem right there. You're going to trust the hardware at some public place where anyone and everyone has been messing with it? Even if the CPU is in your USB key, you're going to trust that someone hasn't installed a keylogger to capture your passwords? It's bad enough that we share wireless internet, but at least there your bank and other such websites usually use high-security encryption, and it's fairly easy to set up firewalls. If you're going to connect someone else's computer and monitor to your miniature CPU+storage device, there's simply no way to prevent someone from easily snooping everything you type or see. Keyloggers are already a big problem on public computers: people buy them on the internet for a few dollars, and install them on public computers at places like libraries, then come back later and retrieve them and capture account numbers and passwords.

    8. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by maxume · · Score: 1

      I'll trust the screen.

      For accessing a lot of stuff, if you were using such a setup, you wouldn't really need to input a password on a keyboard, you could just have a key on the widget and use that to authenticate(so, for checking lots of types of email, accessing a bookmark service, stuff that you don't really mind someone seeing over your shoulder, zero worries).

      But mostly, I mean the hardware at my brother's house, or at another location for work(company owned), and things like that.

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    9. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by cmorford · · Score: 1

      What I want is my 1TB USB keychain (or iphone) to have my favorite OS, apps, and all my data, and to be able to plug it into CPU/keyboard/mouse/display/diskless/OSless stations in airplanes, cafes, hotels, etc. I think Apple has taken a step in that direction. Open Directory on OS X Leopard Server allows you to specify thumb drives as the users home directory location. The user simply sits down at a machine, plugs in their thumb drive and authenticate their account from which their files are loaded from the thumb drive. While the OS isn't on the thumbdrive as you suggest, I thought this to be a pretty cool option, especially in the K-12 school district environment I work in. The only downside is the read/write rates to thumb drives would inhibit anything requiring fast read/write access such as movie rendering, etc.
    10. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by weicco · · Score: 1

      I'll trust the screen.

      How do you know it is your screen you are looking at? ;)

      But seriously, information can be stolen by just looking at your computer screen. Add a video recorder between your USB stick and monitor. No need to hack the operating system, hardware, password etc. All the emails you read can be read by others.

      For home use... I'm not sure if that is such a good idea either. If you can already stuff your favorite OS to USB stick with your documents, just plug that in to your brother's computer and reset the computer. Or there could be some system which enables you to switch between operating systems like VMWare does, but in the hardware level.

      I think there is something in your idea but it needs a little more thought.

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    11. Re:I don't want a laptop at all by maxume · · Score: 1

      That's why I mentioned "stuff you wouldn't mind someone reading over your shoulder".

      I get that trusted hardware is really really hard, I'm not pushing back on that, I'm pushing back on the idea that it is absolutely necessary to trust some hardware before it becomes useful(for some things).

      And the speculative stuff is more about where things might as well be if there is 20 years of linear progress from where we are, rather than about where things should go right now(so it should be dead simple to access local storage and processing, rather than depending on a network, even if makes sense to use a network for most things, because something the size of a watch will have absurd amounts of both). In the near term, I find it hard to believe that future versions(the next generation or two even) of Bluetooth or Wireless USB will lack support for video. A version or two after that, and it might even work well. So that's half of it right there.

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  30. Designers show the way... by flabbergast · · Score: 1

    and its more of the same! Its hinged but cleverly! Its a slider instead of hinges! Its glorified Nintendo DS combined with an iPhone!

    Or, they pick the low hanging fruit of "It'll be faster and more efficient!"

    How about stuff like what Andy Van Dam and his students are working on? MathPad lets you use a tablet to write equations and have the computer solve them for you, or draw a primitive sketch and have it animate depending on an equation you wrote. Or there's ChemPad which lets you draw chemical equations and then it generates the 3-d structure on the fly.

    If we extrapolate what their research does today, 7 years from now could be brilliant. In the end wouldn't it be great open up your computer, and start writing on your desktop? And you could write anything and your computer (with more computing power 7 years from now) would be able to contextualize what you're writing and immediately know that the diagram you drew was an animation for your graphics class that was a pinwheel dependent on an equation? Or, perhaps you're a manager and you draw a lot of diagrams and write notes like "Setup meeting with Jim and Susan, 2:30 tomorrow" and your computer can figure it all out and do it for you?
    Yes, designers are great when they get it correct (iPhone is brilliant) but I'm waiting for the computer to understand what I'm doing as well.

    1. Re:Designers show the way... by Psychotria · · Score: 1

      ...write notes like "Setup meeting with Jim and Susan, 2:30 tomorrow..."

      Hmm. Except that most people can probably type faster than they can scribble notes. Wait... you said "manager"; I understand now.

  31. Can't Wait by atcsharp · · Score: 0

    I hope THAT the COMPUTER has REALLY fast CHIPS. Computers THESE days ARE slow. I want LIKE 15 MEGS of RAM?????

    1. Re:Can't Wait by BlackSnake112 · · Score: 1

      I hope you mean 15 Gig of RAM. Since even most video cards sold today have over 15 MB of RAM on them.

    2. Re:Can't Wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yhbt...

  32. Goody... by Drakin020 · · Score: 1

    Yes that's all we need is something that will fit well in your car...Yes more people need laptops in their cars. /facepalm

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  33. Designers by saider · · Score: 1

    I guess these designers don't think about the ramifications of their design. Like the picture of the person who is working on the computer draped over their steering wheel.

    Brilliant!

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  34. those who igniore the past.... yadda.. yadda... ya by Ancient_Hacker · · Score: 1
    HP spent about 200 million on trying to sell a PC with a touch-sensitive screen. Remember the PC and the butterfly? Lots of TV ads and dang little in terms of sales.

    Problem was, people soon figured out their arm got tired, you could not see what you were mousing over, the screen got smudged with fingerprints, and it's hard to click on a little checkbox when your fingertip is ten times bigger.

  35. a morbid future by qw0ntum · · Score: 1

    Looks like we're still going to be using XP seven years from now...

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    1. Re:a morbid future by Xymor · · Score: 1

      With Vista being such a disaster and Windows 7+ looking into becoming paid services, I wouldn't doubt that...

  36. What do I see on page one. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I see a Haruhi Suzumiya wallpaper on the first screen.
    retarded how popular a show it is yet it wasn't that amazing.
    Yuki is such a slut.

  37. in re Cario notebook by OglinTatas · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Cario, I think # 4 in the image gallery...

    If you thought idiots talking on cell phones while driving were dangerous, wait until you get next to some jerk using the convenient steering wheel mount on the Cario laptop.

    1. Re:in re Cario notebook by tick_and_bash · · Score: 1

      FTA:
      "The notebook is connected to the [car's] dashboard so that Cario can only be operated if the vehicle is stationary,"

  38. computer of the future by davidwr · · Score: 2, Interesting

    The computer of the future will be a bionic implant.

    The one right before that will just be a "box" with the thinking parts, a visual display which will either be eyeglass-mounted, a handheld-sized projection device that projects onto a table or wall, a keyboard-equivalent which might be gloves, a flat, rollable keyboard, or even a camera-based sensor that detects where your fingers are, and a mouse-trackpad equivalent which might be 3-d gestures or something that reads 2-d finger movements similar to the keyboard already mentioned. Some computers will have speech, speech/vocal-cord detection and speech-input processing, body-movement detectors for games and more practical applications, and other input and output devices.

    The box will be wirelessly connected to the tubular internets 24/7. Power-recharge will be wireless and will probably piggyback off of body motion, body heat, and other ambient energy sources in addition to supplied power. Capacitors or battries will store power.

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  39. Still no keyboard-less tablets by ekgringo · · Score: 0

    Whatever happened to the idea of a tablet without the excess baggage that a keyboard entails? I'd love to have a small and light tablet-style PC that looks like nothing more than a big screen. Make it dockable so you can attach a keyboard, mouse, external display, etc. You can always use an on-screen keyboard for quick text input in the field. Something like a Nokia N800, but with a bigger screen (at least paperback book size) and more general-purpose (sorry, but Maemo and the handful of applications designed for it just don't do it for me).

    1. Re:Still no keyboard-less tablets by OldeTimeGeek · · Score: 1

      I have a Compaq TC1000 Tablet PC, which has a detatchable keyboard. I've used the stylus with Microsoft's character recognition software and I've used the on-screen keyboard but I always go back to the keyboard for anything other than entering the XP password or entering a URL. It's not very big and it just works better.

    2. Re:Still no keyboard-less tablets by Allador · · Score: 1

      There are plenty of these out there.

      HP just released a nice 11 or 12 inch with a really slick base a lithium polymer battery.

      They get alot of use in medicine.

  40. Touchscreens? No tactile feedback? by HockeyPuck · · Score: 1

    50% of the comments so far are about...
    Ranting about how one can't deal with a touchscreen... no tactile feedback blah blah blah...

    Yet this same crowd loves the iPhone...

    Ironic?

    1. Re:Touchscreens? No tactile feedback? by idlemind · · Score: 2, Insightful

      50% of the comments so far are about...
      Ranting about how one can't deal with a touchscreen... no tactile feedback blah blah blah...

      Yet this same crowd loves the iPhone...

      Ironic?
      Because the usage scenarios for an iPhone and a laptop are identical, right?
    2. Re:Touchscreens? No tactile feedback? by aadvancedGIR · · Score: 1

      To be honest, like a concept car, a concept computer was never meant to be actually used, it's only purpose is to show how cool its architect is by only using ideas so radical that no sane hardware engineer, industrial designer or marketing moron would ever think of using it in an actual product, no matter if the technology is available.

  41. uhh, what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Missing your bus
    The CPU's front-side bus will likely disappear by 2015. The bus acts like a traffic cop, sending data to the different parts of the system at a slower speed than the computational core. In its place will be an integrated controller that makes this distribution of data much more efficient by operating faster.

    As with multiple-core processors, this trend is already under way -- Intel, for instance, has announced that its Nehalem CPU microarchitecture, set to debut later this year, will feature an integrated memory controller, eliminating the need for a front-side bus. However, it will take a long time for this trend to reach CPUs used in notebook computers -- the 2015 time frame seems reasonable, the experts agreed.... "
    umm, doesn't every AMD processor made right now have an IMC? if so, I fail to see how this is a prediction as such. maybe they only asked Intel experts.

  42. Battery Life and Weight please by cliffski · · Score: 1

    Those are the ONLY considerations for me..

    "Most experts agree that future notebooks will be just as limited by battery life as they are now. But that doesn't mean we won't see significant advances in mobile power supplies -- such advances will be necessary to keep up with all the extra power."

    Great, so you will sell me an eight core laptop with 36 times more power than I need, and as a result, the battery life for it will suck just as much as my current one does.
    I want a laptop that lets me surf the web and send email. I don't need an optical drive, I only need storage for maybe 20 gig plus the O/S. What I want is a laptop thats Quiet, lightweight and has a decent battery.
    Apparently I'm not the customer. That seems to be the traveling salesmen who uses his laptop in some penis-size compensation bragging rights game with his co-workers.

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    1. Re:Battery Life and Weight please by starfishsystems · · Score: 1
      I'm with you on this.

      It's funny that there is this tendency to propose solutions before we've had much in the way of agreement on the requirements.

      I expect that any device I'm going to carry with me everywhere should be primarily about portability. The smaller, lighter, cheaper, more long running, more reliable, the better. Oh, and cheaper, because I don't want to spend my life worrying about it. That means let's get rid of any features which are not strictly to the point.

      Primarily, this device is my personal gateway to the net for wherever I happen to be. So it should support robust three-factor authentication. It should interoperate reliably and securely with any local user interfaces within its range, so that its necessarily small size is not a barrier to usability. This means that the interface peripherals must themselves be hardened against tampering, must authenticate to the device, and there must be strong legal sanctions against data capture through keystroke logging, screen scraping, and so on. These are not properties of the device itself, but worth noting because they help to enable it.

      Of course it needs some amount of local storage as a cache against periods of low network bandwidth or high cost of use. I don't suppose there's any point in defining ahead of time what exact amount this should be, but as things stand today I agree, 20 gig seems fine. The number serves to illustrate that it's not all about local storage or local capability. Why would it be? Apart from the coherency issues, I'm not going to organize critical data around a device that could easily be lost or damaged. That sort of data should be stored on reliable servers. Same with massive compute power. I'll get it when I need it.

      The kind of device worth carrying around is the kind that delivers real telepresent identity. Everything that falls short of that is a stepping stone, or more like a millstone. Touch screens in 2015? Terabytes of storage? That's pathetic.

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  43. The future is bleak by dabadab · · Score: 1

    So, in a few years' time I will be using keyboards lacking tactile feedback and glossy, fingerprint-stained displays. I just can't find words to express how eagerly I wait this :)

    OK, so touch keyboards were really a wave of the future in the early 80s and I was somewhat disappointed that my C=64 had conventional keys - at least until I actually got around to try to use a touch keyboard (and decided that it totally sucked).

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  44. In the case of the DS, I get the 'flip-ability' is by JSBiff · · Score: 2, Informative

    I got to thinking about it more, and while my point is generally correct. I also realize that, perhaps in the DS' specific case, the advantage of having two screens is that they are built into seperate housings that are jointed, so you can flip the screen down for storage (much like a laptop design), but my basic point is that, outside of doing something like that, there is usually no inherent advantage to having multiple physically seperated screens, when you can just logically partition a single screen as necessary.

  45. We won't need a keyboard at all in 10 years by TheLazySci-FiAuthor · · Score: 1

    Unimaginative, indeed.

    What with the voiceless phone call alread a reality, how trivial would it be to take the nerve-sensing capabilities of the neckband and make two nerve sensing wristbands and/or perhaps gloves?

    the wristbands would sense your nerve impulses and tell what you were intending to type, even without tactile feedback. Just imagine typing in your head and the signals go to your wrist and finger muscles.

    This is of course skirting the whole concept that one could simply use the neckband to simply issue vocal commands to the computer for a large variety of tasks, and naturally for dictation.

    I've noticed that people never lock their car doors anymore when they are passengers. This is because most modern cars can be remote locked by the driver when they arm their alarms. I have el-cheapo corolla and I have to constantly say, "dude, lock your door" - even to females I say 'dude'.

    In 20 years typing will be a lost art form, like remembering phone numbers.

  46. Seven years? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think I'm currently using the laptop I'll have in seven years, my MacBook Air. (assuming the battery doesn't die and I can't find a screwdriver) Aside from that, the Air looks quite a bit more attractive than this thing. The keyboard on the Air is second only to my old ThinkPad 600e; this "future" glass surface looks about as satisfying as an iPhone keyboard.

  47. All the comments on the keyboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why would we be typing at all in the future?

  48. No thanks by iamacat · · Score: 1

    I don't need a super powerful process or a 2 terabyte hard drive on a laptop. With Wi-Max type connectivity, I can always connect to my desktop or to a leased server for extra storage and computing capacity. What I need is for the laptop to work, that is not run out of battery. I don't know why I would need to wait 7 years either, as a 24 hour battery life is quite achievable with today's technology. Create a Macbook Air type laptop, except make it sicker by adding a fat, full size regular lithium battery on the bottom. Add a second, slower Via processor to the motherboard and make it take over when I am just browsing the web and writing e-mails. Make a reflective dish that concentrates light into a fiber optic cable and let me connect it to screen and shutdown the battery-consuming backlight.

    I got a used iBook clamshell and upgraded it to a modern battery. It gets 8 hours of battery life now. I don't see why a laptop made 20 years later can not do as much.

  49. what about pants? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    ...allowing you to slide your finger across the screen to immediately shut off the display and keep what you're working on confidential.


    That's all well and good, but I still have to quickly think of a reason I'm not wearing any pants.
  50. Concepts by gsmraxe · · Score: 1

    Wasn't it in the 1950s that the auto industry predicted we'd all be operating flying cars by 2000?

  51. Where's my flying car? by Ctrl-Z · · Score: 1

    I suspect that the laptop of 2015 will look at lot like the laptop of 2008, which incidentally looks a lot like the laptop of 1998. Sure, the screens may look nicer, and the batteries will last longer, but the folding keyboard/screen combination has been around for a long time because it just works.

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  52. My future portable device by TTURabble · · Score: 1

    I can only hope in the future my glasses/contacts act as a Heads Up Display.

    Hopefully it will interface wirelessly with my entire life, not only will it put a little green marker over the place I last left my keys (or whatever else I am looking for), but it will place an objective marker on the "Google Mini-Map(Beta)" when I have an appointment scheduled in my calendar. It will also place a giant red exclamation point over my Boss' head when he is alerted to my presence and give me a warning chime so I can run and hide.

    Hell if the future is really bright, the thing will pop up and tell me when my girlfriend/wife is mad at me, and it will automatically direct me to the nearest flower shop.

    1. Re:My future portable device by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Hell if the future is really bright, the thing will pop up and tell me when my girlfriend/wife is mad at me, and it will automatically direct me to the nearest flower shop.

      You've got to be kidding. For tens of thousands of years, men haven't been able to determine if a woman is mad at them until she starts complaining, and now you expect a computer to do this ahead of time?

      Computers are great and all, but I think you're asking a bit much of the technology.

  53. All Runing Windows? by CodeBuster · · Score: 1

    Did anyone else notice that all of the "futuristic" laptops were running Windows?

    1. Re:All Runing Windows? by tverbeek · · Score: 1

      Did you notice what version? Apparently Windows XP will still be in use in 2015.

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    2. Re:All Runing Windows? by jawtheshark · · Score: 1

      No surprise with Windows Vista success and the inevitable delays of Windows 7 ;-)))

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  54. "click click" replaced by "tap tap smudge" by Zekasu · · Score: 1

    It it just me, or does anyone else find it odd, or downright disturbing, that the type of keyboard I'm using now, the type that click and have keys, will be replaced by touchscreen counterparts?

    While I do see the ingenuity in being able to have any type of keyboard at your fingertips, I just don't see me typing very fast without those oh-so-familiar clicking keys that one presses down.

    This reminds me of that "indestructible" keyboard that was sold a number of years back, the one made entirely out of silicone, that you could roll up, smash and what not. Typing on that thing was so awful, so hellish, that I went back to a standard keyboard and returned it to Bestbuy (or wherever I bought it) that very day.

    Touchscreen keyboards just don't seem like they're all that appealing over traditional keyboards.

    Oh, and before you say it, a soundfile of a clicking sound would not compensate for a touchscreen keyboard.

  55. the more things change by commodoresloat · · Score: 1

    In one, a touch-sensitive screen acts as the system's keyboard and mouse, allowing you to slide your finger across the screen to immediately shut off the display and keep what you're working on confidential It's good to see that our priorities are in order -- no matter what technology is available ten years from now, it better be able to hide our pr0n.
  56. finally vista catches on by __aamnbm3774 · · Score: 1

    nice, vista is apparently being used on the Compenion concept notebook here

  57. Modded Offtopic already? by spookymonster · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I'd thought my point was quite relevant, actually... tactile feedback is a critical element in a touch typist's accuracy. The fact that the parent's post had typos showed that, to him, accuracy was not as important as speed (not right now at least). If speed was his primary concern, then it is easy to see why the idea of using technology to improve his accuracy was so easily dismissed.

    It is easy to see how accuracy plays less of a role in a world where thumb typing slang is de rigeur and the excuse of "you know what I meant" is commonplace.

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    1. Re:Modded Offtopic already? by thanatos_x · · Score: 1

      There's also the possibility of auto-correcting spelling. Word does it fairly often if you transpose 1-2 lteters, or put as pace in the wrong place. The only place I can see this not working is password fields and other random digit areas, however these tend to be fairly uncommon, and when they pop up they're usually short. I do think that various combos requiring multiple keys would be slightly annoying. On the plus side the touch screen should be customizable for whatever program is open, so with the exception of programs that you need to type in and use ctrl or shift, there can be shortcut keys like the optimius keyboard. Again Word (and others) are quite good at automatically capitalizing the start of sentences, and I'm sure you could enable automatic capitalization of likely proper nouns or abbreviations.

      To replace the keyboard entirely, one could use voice recognition, and if volume is a concern, they already have something that you can put on your jaw that will translate your movements into words. In 7 years both should be cheap and reliable enough for most use, and I'd be somewhat shocked if higher end PDAs/smartphones didn't make good use of this before then. (There was a phone 3 years ago that had voice recognition for texting, fairly good from what i read about it, so it should certainly be possible now)

      Would either of these solutions dominate the need for a good, tactile keyboard? No. However they both offer advantages over a traditional keyboard, and together mitigate many of the problems. The second solution also requires nothing more than already comes standard on current laptops.

      Computers in the next 10 years will be quite different than the ones today. We've gotten to the point where things are more than fast enough for how we can input information. There will be an upgrade or addition to the mouse/keyboard soon, as well as 'smarter' computers which automatically do certain relatively easy tasks, freeing up the user's time. (think if the average user had a good grasp of unix command line functions)

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  58. Tactile (not only) for the blind? by Teun · · Score: 1

    The Siafu concept notebook with it's tactile surface looks like a very nice idea.

    It really makes me wonder how it would display, say, Pamela Anderson...

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    1. Re:Tactile (not only) for the blind? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You know, Pamela Anderson would be 55 in 15 years.

    2. Re:Tactile (not only) for the blind? by Teun · · Score: 1

      Does that affect silicone?

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  59. It always comes down to batteries... by CohibaVancouver · · Score: 1

    To me, the problems with these 'futuristic' devices always comes down to batteries. Until we develop an inexpensive, low-mass, "safe" battery that lasts a long time, people are still going to be desperately hunting down electrical outlets in airports, no matter how fancy the gadget.

  60. Bye Bye QWERTY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Did anybody else notice that the standard QWERTY will be gone and replaced with QWERTZ?

    1. Re:Bye Bye QWERTY by mrtonic · · Score: 1

      Eastern European keyboards (at least Czech ones) have the y and z keys transposed.

  61. My perfect notebook... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    Flexible screen - folds out for full-sized scrren when I have the room, stays slid into the top cover for a half-size screen when I don't. This is probably an OLED device, shough Sharp at least is working on this sort of display. Note to self, recommend a cell phone with this, so I can have a useful browsing experience in something shirt-pocket sized.

    Jackable to a desktop-style keyboard/mouse/monitor setup wherever I am. Like libraries, work, home office, McDonalds (since by then Starbucks will be passé, and MD's coffee will be better.

    Truly fast wireless - 100MB bi-directional. This is not within sight, WiMax and all are not gpoing to get it done.

    Expandable keyboard - Starts out as slightly compressed notebook size, but pull on two corners and the keyboard expands out to full-size, if I wanna. Think IBM's ThinkPad 'butterfly' keyboard but in both dimensions, not just width. Keys are overlapping with flexible edges and of course debounced so you can strike one and get what you wanted, ignoring the nearby slower, partial presses. You can have the *)(&ing patent, just make this for me, ok?

    Anti-theft alarm - Unless you deactivate it when you pick it up, you get a 120dB+ squeal. For a long time. And off and on forever, or until I enter the right combination of keys, buttons, and gestures. Wait, make that 140dB+. This might make it undesireable to snarf one off my table at McD's...

    Fuel cell or chemical power source - A butane fuel cell would be sweet, but there may be other alternatives. I won't ask for the plutonium pellet lifetime battery yet, too many people aren't ready for true progress.

    Can I have this by 2015, please? Ok, 2018? Never? Hmm...

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  62. Finger Control by Chicken_Kickers · · Score: 1

    "In one, a touch-sensitive screen acts as the system's keyboard and mouse, allowing you to slide your finger across the screen to immediately shut off the display and keep what you're working on confidential." I have an even better idea. I want the computer to restart when I wave my middle finger in front of the screen. This will be handy for BSODs and driver crashes.

  63. Hang on steering wheel! by ionymous · · Score: 1, Funny
    Oh man... I can't wait to be able to hang my laptop from the steering wheel.

    So then when I'm... I mean I can... this allows me too... well it's just so awesome!!!

  64. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 2, Interesting

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  65. A little EPCOT in your Epson by dosymedia · · Score: 0

    The sad truth is that concept models, like science fiction, can only conceive of the future as based on funadamental limitations of the present. Why would someone in the future put a computer in their lap when they can wear it like a bluetooth 'digital mullet' earpiece or as a stylish cap that interfaces with the brain through the skin?

  66. Re:Siafu notebook by tick_and_bash · · Score: 1

    This innovation interests me most, aside from the obvious uses, but taking a step further. It would be an incredible educational tool as well as for the average consumer. Here's the shots they had for this with the article: http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9070218&pageNumber=3 This is probably way down the line, but a true simulation of open heart surgery? Driving tests/lessons without having to take students into the streets? How about 3D maps to help us find our way around? To be honest, I am afraid of the next generation of internet "pop ups".

  67. I won't be using that everyday. by Urza9814 · · Score: 1

    You'll have to pry my Model M from my cold dead fingers before I'll type on a _touch_ screen! Touchscreens are a novelty, nothing more. You can't type if you have to put your hand on the screen, it's rather painful to the muscles and fingers to be typing on something that doesn't move, and the loss of precision is far too great. Your fingers can't click a single pixel. Your mouse pointers can. I wouldn't even be able to properly maneuver my desktop by touch if it was a 40" screen, let alone a 20" (or smaller) laptop. And yes, you would need a different interface, but that means either having less working space as controls take over all your screen space, or having everything embedded even deeper into the maze of menus.

  68. touch-sensitive keyboards? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Yuk. Didn't we learn anything from Sinclair about non responsive keyboards back in the 80's?

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  69. Year of Linux? Not before 2015 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Those images had Windoze stamped all over the screens, so 2008 will not be the year for Linux

  70. projected screens and/or keyboards by peter303 · · Score: 1

    I've seen work on both at SIGGRAPHs. You could project the display output on any surface. A camera would watch the projected screen corners and continuously warp it into a regular rectangle.

    I've also seen a laser draw faux-keyboards on a quasi-horizontal surfaces and detect finger locations and typing-contacts. You make a gesture-detector with this too.

    The benefit of both of theses systems is computer hardware much smaller than a screen or keyboard. Maybe a small cube or pocket-sized device you place on a table-wall in front of you.

    This is probably more 2025 than 2015.

  71. How about no batteries? by antikaos · · Score: 1

    I'd like my future laptop to have a small fusion generator, and a projector capable of displaying a high lumen screen 10' wide 10' away, but maybe not quite in the next 7 years...

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  72. Disappointing by Snospar · · Score: 1

    Is that really all that they think is possible in the next 7 years? I thought we were meant to be accelerating toward a technological singularity, sometime around 2037 (IIRC), and yet the advances they propose are touch screens, virtual keyboards and laptops that work as e-books! WTF? They can do all that stuff right now!

    I want them to showcase the technology that they think might be achievable in 7 years: where's the roll-up paper thin screen, hell, why can't the whole laptop be embedded into the paper thin screen. Where's the wearable HUD or good 'ol VR Goggles?

    Basically they see the laptop still existing in 7 years and it's pretty much the same but has adopted some of the tech-style from the mobile phone industry. Well done. No innovation stagnation here, now move along...

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  73. Maybe I'll actually have a new machine by then ? by waterwingz · · Score: 1

    The way companies keep cutting expenses, I'm pretty sure that my laptop in 2015 will be the same crappy Compaq POS that I'm using today. So I already know what the laptop of 2015 looks like - its in front of me now.

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  74. You are missing the obvious solution. by NotQuiteReal · · Score: 1

    The advantage to a virtual keyboard, is that the keys can simply move to where they need to be as you type.

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  75. keyboard by tregetour · · Score: 1

    I like a tactile keyboard as much as the next fella' and would likely hate typing on one of those touchscreen things ... but I wonder how much of that is just habit. My grandmother was used to pounding on her typewriter and thought a keyboard was flimsy and felt "wrong". Who knows what 10 years from now folks will think.

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  76. iPhone is easy to type by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The iPhone is very easy to type on - and all those people who say you *need* to look at the keyboard to make sure you are hittin the right keys is incorrect. I still manage to text while I'm driving with one hand and not looking. True I may not hit the correct key every time, but with the intelligence of the keyboard it always knows what I was trying to say, you just need to have faith in the keyboard.

    I like the second laptop - only problem is though it is running Vista!! Hopefully by 2015 everyone will have woken up and would be buying the latest "MacBook Touch".

  77. 2015, meet 1981 by Angstroem · · Score: 1

    In 1981 we had machines with foil-based keyboards. On these machines you never knew whether you hit or missed a key -- you either had to constantly monitor the screen or watch yourself typing. Usually the latter.

    Heck, there have been *plenty* of alternative input methods in the 1970s and 1980s, ranging from early touch sensors (remembering those on your TV set?) to a vast number of foil-based stuff.

    They all died out. For a reason: people hate it when they have no tactile feedback. If they press a button, they not only expect something to happen, but also get the instant feedback of a button being depressed.

    I suspect this designer is born in the 1980s. That's the only half-way plausible excuse to come up with touch-sensitive alternative screens as an alternative for keyboards.

    Maybe he will then soon have the brilliant idea of chiclet keyboards and non-standard keyboard arrangements.

    1. Re:2015, meet 1981 by therpham · · Score: 1

      He probably doesn't even know what a chiclet keyboard is. "How do you make a keyboard out of tiny pieces of gum?"

    2. Re:2015, meet 1981 by aXis100 · · Score: 1

      That's very narrow minded thinking. Even with touchscreens, you can still provide meaningful feedback via alternative methods - eg a speacker "click".

    3. Re:2015, meet 1981 by Angstroem · · Score: 1

      I'm tempted to say "don't defend what you've never used".

      Yes, there are methods to provide *some* sort of feedback; never the less, your finger have no orientation of any kind on a non-conventional keyboard. People have already experimented with stuff like this and it always was crap compared to "true" buttons and keys.

      Sufficient experience with completely flat input devices already exists. Exists plenty. And those input devices usually were even *much* cheaper to produce. Still, they've died out (for good!) in the 1980s.

      That has nothing to do with narrow-mindedness, but since you mentioned touch-screens: watch closely, the next time you see someone typing on a touch-screen. Where are their eyes?

      Indeed. On the touch screen. No guidance for fingers, hence eye-control is required.

  78. A more likely scenario... by gillbates · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Is that the laptop of the future:

    1. Will weigh 15 pounds, and have a 21" LCD. But you won't be able to play HD movies unless you buy the Media Package - which will require a special version of Vista and add another pound for the hardware security module.
    2. Will have a battery life of about 45 minutes.
    3. Will have a 2 TB hard drive, half of which will be consumed by Windows.
    4. Will take 15 minutes to boot.
    5. Will have a 1 GHz processor with 16 cores, only one of which will be enabled while on battery power.

    You know, people just don't get it. If I'm buying a desktop, yes, I want all of the bells and whistles and don't care how heavy or how much power it uses. But when I buy a laptop, I'm not buying a mobile desktop. I want something that's light and easily portable. I want something with a keyboard that's usable, not merely "painted on" as an afterthought; tactile feedback matters. I want something which can be opened in economy class on an airline - the last corporate laptop I had was so big that this was impossible - I used my Palm instead. And I want something that can be used for hours on end without a recharge.

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    1. Re:A more likely scenario... by Tuki · · Score: 1

      I agree, there is nothing here that is impressive, and why do all the laptops of the future have to be thicker than the ones available today?

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    2. Re:A more likely scenario... by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 1

      There is a very large market segment that specifically wants desktop replacement laptops. I've owned a few, including a widescreen HP Z series. Christ, I really hated that experience.

    3. Re:A more likely scenario... by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      I am a gamer. If I had a laptop it would be primarily for gaming, and only used for work/school as a secondary function. I would want a 21" LCD. I would want a good video card. I wouldn't care about battery life, because I have a device called an extension cord, and I can't game while driving anyway. I use Linux and WINE, not windows, and thus avoid most of the other problems. The only thing I care about at all is mass, and that's not a major concern as I don't have to walk that far.
      That said, I'm an outlier. Most people will want small and light. Most people wouldn't carry a 4.5 pound keyboard around (Model M) but I would, since it's much, much better to type on. So some things that seem stupid will have a target demographic.

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    4. Re:A more likely scenario... by matt21811 · · Score: 1

      I agree with your sentiment about what you want in a laptop.

      I think your predictions are a little off though.
      By 2015, if trends of the last 5 years continue, flash drives will have displaced 3.5 inch drives for storage per dollar meaning laptops will not have to make any sacrifices in the area of available storage. I think you got the drive size about right.
      I looked at Windows software bloat and MS has never used more than 10% of the "sweet spot" hard drive at the time of release. I wrote about it here: http://www.mattscomputertrends.com/softwarebloat.html

  79. desktop included by Ninja+Penguin · · Score: 1

    as long as my nifty laptop of the future comes default with a haruhi-esque image of anime girls as the desktop i'm sold.

  80. Mod the parent "ignorant" ... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    "But of course! In 2015, everything runs Linux and OEMs ship it pre-installed. We know this because, as everyone knows, 2008 will be the year of Linux on the desktop."
    A troll and a Windows user too! How quaint. In case you didn't hear, the year of Linux on the desktop was a couple of years ago, and it shows no sign of slowing down. I use Linux exclusively, though I support Vista users, usually by providing a shoulder to cry on after they see my Sony Vaio with Linux, KDE, and Beryl. Sometimes I feel bad when they ask what I paid for it, but I don't feel bad for too long :-)
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  81. I want my portable computer... by Hymer · · Score: 1

    ...to be just like SELMA (from Time Trax).

  82. Hardware by fireheadca · · Score: 1

    So long as we're tied to the hardware in this manner - we will continue with a:

    1) display of some sort
    2) input of some sort

    You can throw it into a million fabulous configurations and it will always be the same - just something to lug around.

    When we start using wetware, that's when the real innovation will take place.

  83. no more elbow knocking? by bugi · · Score: 1

    With the touch-screen keyboard, could I change the shape of the keyboard so I don't have to hold my elbows together to type?

    Split keyboards are a godsend for those of us with shoulder spans wider than a foot.

  84. Re:In the case of the DS, I get the 'flip-ability' by edwdig · · Score: 2, Informative

    there is usually no inherent advantage to having multiple physically seperated screens, when you can just logically partition a single screen as necessary.

    The dual screens reduces processing power needs. The 2D hardware on the DS requires far, far less power than the 3D hardware, and is also much cheaper to make. The DS design has 2 2D engines and 1 3D engine. Doing one screen would've required bumping up the power of the 3D engine substantially, and probably would require more RAM as well.

  85. Anal retentive by Jeppe+Utzon · · Score: 1

    Their associated image gallery includes a prototype for a dual-screen laptop. That isn't a prototype. It isn't even a mockup. It's just a concept rendering. A prototype would (commonly) be a fully functional and working test product. In this case that would mean a fully functional computer. A mockup would look like the real thing but non-functional and usually also made out of "fake" materials.
  86. Not new actually... by VanHalensing · · Score: 1

    They actually make dual screen laptops, have for a few years. If you do a google search, there are a few prototypes, and Canova already offers one, or did at one point. It isn't just a concept, I've actually seen one (I guess it could have been a prototype). It runs XP too, so it's been around at least a year or two. Anyways, not new. The writer of this article should probably check the high end market before making claims about tech we'll see 15 years from now, when it's already out.

  87. It's all wrong by howardd21 · · Score: 1
    IMNSHO...the approach taken to these types of articles, and this one in particular is wrong. They tend to take a look at the form and stretch it in all sorts of directions (a blob? A clam shell on its side as an ebook?). But they go conservative on the underlying technology. Why can we only expect 6 cores, and 2Tb of Magnetic disk space/or 250Mb of SSD storage? The technology always outstrips the ability of people to change the way they use it, other than certain disruptive technologies which may make another technology obsolete (cell phones not land lines; wireless not wired LAN, etc.). But for the very personal use, people will not in 8 years switch to a blob, or use a laptop on a steering wheel (though I'd like to try :)). Even with speech input, tablets, etc. - traditional hardware interfaces have not chnaged in 25 years ("here's your keyboard, screen, and main unit...oh it's all in one? Let's call it a laptop, no wait...a notebook"

    They will want:
    • Lighter Devices
    • Better Battery Life/less power used
    • Tactile Feedback from a keyboard
    • Faster Processing, and ability to never see an hourglass
    • Higher amount of storage
    • Faster Connections to other devices or resoucres
    • More Robust Construction
    • Less errors affecting their use
    Then they will try to decide between small surface area (small screen and keyboard for portability) compared to large surface area for usability.

    For me, just make my Toshiba M400 faster, more reliable, lighter, and better battery life, and able to never see an hourglass and I am there.
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  88. Display switch anyone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    a touch-sensitive screen acts as the system's keyboard and mouse, allowing you to slide your finger across the screen to immediately shut off the display and keep what you're working on confidential.

    Riiiiight... because that's so much easier and more reliable than flipping a friggin' switch to turn the display off!

  89. Re:Mod the parent "humourless" ... by LighterShadeOfBlack · · Score: 1

    Hello there. Jokes, ever hear of them?

    Oh, you may notice he never said he was a Windows user. And the "Year of Linux" isn't defined by when you started using Linux. What, did you think we were all sitting around with baited breath hoping this would be the year that Zero__Kelvin gave his mark of approval? I'm not surprised you feel bad when you tell people what you paid for your laptop. A Sony Vaio? Talk about low value for money...

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  90. Vista? by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Heh, I see one of those screens has a Vista logo on it.

    That's not the laptop I'll be using in 2015. Nor anyone else for that matter.

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  91. So, I looked at those designs by kaizokuace · · Score: 1

    And they are pretty much dumb and unoriginal. Is 2015 really just everyone carrying around over sized Nintendo DS's and slider phones? These are not innovative uses of OLEDs which I think will take off once mass production gets cheap. The possibility of flexible OLEDs is also interesting, if a substrate for the screen plus the sealing layers were flexible enough to be rolled then we could potentially fit a computer in like a digital "scroll" or something cool like that. Also I hate this touch screen use for keyboards. You really have to look at the screen to use it. Unless screen topology can be dynamically changed it's useless. I say use dual Power Gloves with like sign language (this will help the hearing impaired as more people will be able to speak to them). I love the power glove. It's so baaaad. Oh one more things. DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS!..er I mean BATTERIES BATTERIES BATTERIES. There are much more efficient battery technologies currently in development and already in existence. The ones in existence are probably being affected by political and corporate pressure from the likes of big oil as their high efficiency threatens oil consumption directly. The only problem with batteries is charge time. If your batteries are efficient enough then you can completely replace oil as a transportation infrastructure with batteries and nuclear power plants. You still need oil to produce a lot of other things. Just nowhere near as much as is consumed by cars and trucks. Ok I guess I should shut up now.

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  92. Please don't tell me by PPH · · Score: 1

    ...a touch-sensitive screen acts as the system's keyboard and mouse, allowing you to slide your finger across the screen .... I don't want to know what that gooey stuff you just smeared on the scrren is.
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  93. In the year 2015... by atomic-penguin · · Score: 1
    1. I hope to God, nobody is still using Vista in 2015
    2. Apparently, in the year 2015, everyone will refer to a tablet PC as a laptop
    3. Unless there are serious advancements in LCD durability in the next 7 years; there might be a bit of a design problem with using an LCD panel as a keyboard.
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  94. Concept notebook? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    At this rate I think I'll still be using my T41 in the year 2015. Too many people are squandering the opportunities for advancement avaliable by utilizing current technology to make better technology on tired pedantic endeavours.

    My timex sinclair had a flat keyboard and it sucked. Instead of a screen the future notebook will **harmlessly** beam neat 3d images into your retnas. (We all finally get to play the wavey funnel game:)

    Instead of a keyboard you can just twiddle your fingers in space (interpreted by an internal ccd) to represent what you want to type or opt for one of those cheezy mind reading HID device.

  95. Re:Mod the parent "humourless" ... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

    "Hello there. Jokes, ever hear of them?"
    Now that I've heard of you, I have heard of one more :-)

    "Oh, you may notice he never said he was a Windows user."
    No. He's clearly running Linux on his desktop. If you had even a moderate ability to comprehend what is going on around you, you could conclude that someone who actually knows what he is talking about wouldn't think something that was a valid joke a few years back continues to be one today.

    "I'm not surprised you feel bad when you tell people what you paid for your laptop. A Sony Vaio? Talk about low value for money..."
    You actually don't have to go out of your way to appear stupid, so don't try so hard at it. I assure you, it will happen as a matter of inevitability :-)
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  96. In 2015 your laptop will be an Amiga by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 1

    ... and why not?

  97. Priority list by BlueParrot · · Score: 1

    Dual screens is fairly low on my priority list. Right now I'd like something like the following

    *Battery life measured in days, not hours
    *Stable and mobile wireless, I'm guessing 3G or whatever comes after that will solve this one eventually.
    *Completely solid state low-noise components ( sort of available already, albeit at a very high price )
    *Improved keyboards. Few laptops have a decent one and I can't imagine a touchscreen will make it better.

    The only major advantage I can see with using a touch-screen as a keyboard is that it would allow you to use the entire keyboard area as a touch pad when you're not typing.

  98. Future looks bleak... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All those laptops run Vista or XP...

  99. You will regret this... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For months to come... HONEY...

  100. I don't know about you... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    but my future laptop looks like a Thinkpad

  101. Pfft... touch screens... by double07 · · Score: 1

    Pfft... touch screens. I suspect it won't be long before computers simply type what we think and I can't see any problems with that whatsoman I'm hungry.

  102. fancy but... by quick_dry_3 · · Score: 1

    "allowing you to slide your finger across the screen to immediately shut off the display and keep what you're working on confidential"

    couldn't I just push a button?

    gestures are cool and all, but that sounds pretty innefficient unless I'm already running my hand on the screen.

  103. The future eh? by Spit · · Score: 1

    In one, a touch-sensitive screen acts as the system's keyboard and mouse, allowing you to slide your finger across the screen to immediately shut off the display and keep what you're working on confidential.

    I've had this exact functionality since the 90's, you can hook a keyboard up too. It also fits in my pocket and the rechargable battery lasts for a month. It's a PALM PILOT!

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  104. All ugly, difficult to use. by JoeGee · · Score: 1
    • The Saifu looks like some kind of Klingon battle implement. It's even an appropriate color. The name might have some kind of nice meaning, but it sounds to me like Ginsu.
    • Speaking of knives, the notebook with the pull-out keyboard is clever, but how sturdy would it be, and why does it remind me of a high tech cutting board?
    • The dual screen notebook is a thick, clunky piece of over-engineering. It looks like a Toughbook, and I'd expect a 5.25 inch hard drive or two could fit in that case. It looks like it came from behind the Iron Curtain. There has to be a Soviet Russia joke in there somewhere.
    • The solar notebook is also quite thick. Didn't TFA say it was actually designed by someone who used to live in an Iron Curtain country? It has that Trabant look. It also looks like it might be pretty easy to throw through a window. Is it insurgency friendly?
    • The "car friendly" notebook. No. I can picture some idiot driving down the road checking their email and typing on their keyscreen. We have a hard enough time with cell phone drivers. Please, let's not throw another device at them.
    If you want something that looks beautiful and is revolutionary, take something like the Mac Air clamshell, remove the hinge, toss the "body", and have a tablet the form and thickness of the Air's display. Make it watertight with an accessible but sealed polycarbonate shell. Make certain it has a multicore CPU, an OLED display surface, solid state storage, with a voice/gestural/touch interface *or* wireless keyboard and mouse for us Luddites. Recharge it on an inductive charging surface, and give it a snap-on easel for easy viewing.

    Make certain it always knows "up" (the term escapes me at the moment, someone remind me.)

    I'd buy one. I wouldn't purchase any of the other ones shown in this article.
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  105. Re:In the case of the DS, I get the 'flip-ability' by TempeTerra · · Score: 1

    The DS screens are not identical. Only the lower screen is touch sensitive so it makes sense to have an interface-dedicated screen and an information-dedicated screen. But I think you're right, apart from form factor and cost saving issues a single screen would be better.

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  106. you are thinking in the box by Khashishi · · Score: 1

    In the future, we may not need keyboards, since some better input system will be developed. You could envision a touch chord system which doesn't require location accuracy. Better voice recognition or brain recognition. Letters could be formed by a variety of gestures. Typing doesn't have to be an up-down motion of the fingers; it could be various finger gestures which don't require pressing down a button. There's no reason why a new system would be slower than traditional typing.

    1. Re:you are thinking in the box by Allador · · Score: 1

      You're absolutely right.

      But you'll notice that none of the concept laptops in TFA talked about any of that.

      They pretty much all had touch-screen keyboards, except for that goo-ball no-screen one.

      My specific complaint which this whole thread has been about, is that touch-screen keyboards are not a pragmatic alternative to mechanical keyboards, despite how they are ALWAYS shown as the future of human interaction. Touch-screen keyboards are to us now what the flying cars were for folks earlier in the century. Every 'futurist' thought they would be ubiquitous. But once you spend 5 minutes thinking about the practical challenges and limitations of such a thing, you realize how silly an idea it is. Touch-screen keyboards fall into this same category.

      This says nothing about alternative techniques, however.

      Personally, I've always wanted to try one of the two-handed items that are like small dumbbells and only have one button per finger, and you type in chords which correspond to letters. Never made the time to get up to speed on one though.

  107. Just like the plastic keyboard protectors of old.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fantastic idea! If only I had mod points... The only issue I can see is where to store the film when it's not in use - if it's detachable, you can imagine how often someone would lose it. Perhaps if it's hinged on it's side so that it sits to (either the left or right) when not in use.

  108. Touchscreen keyboard? Pass. by Nullav · · Score: 1

    Anyone here using those laser keyboards? Enjoy it? Thought not.

    How about putting some work into making fancy new laptops as cheap as comparable desktop systems instead of adding gold, diamonds, baby skin and extra screens to them? Aside from the cost of that, it looks useless for actual work. Drop it? There goes the touch screen. Touch typing? Forget it!

    This is no more the laptop of the future than LEGOs are the building material of the future.

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  109. Easy, Moore's law says: by Daniel+Phillips · · Score: 1

    Sixteen Gigabytes of memory, Eight 6 GHz 64 bit processors, 3.2 Terabytes of disk, 9,000 x 5,000 resolution. Otherwise not much different. Still only 4 hours worth of battery.

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  110. Or, even worse by Anubis350 · · Score: 1

    what I'm doing now, watching futurama on one and reading slashdot on the other (really :-p)!

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  111. Those dual screens and keyboards must be annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    ...otherwise this page would be FULL of comments about the potential uses of the 'Siafu' technology mooted in the article.
    Go on, use your imagination... oh, hang on, you don't need to...

  112. Touchscreens? @_@ by MichailS · · Score: 1

    I'd rather have a shot of Ebola, thanks. Touchscreens is the devils invention for crippling human appendages.

    I don't forsee the QWERTY keymap to go away anytime soon, and as long as people poke at stuff as a means of entering data, they will probably want some sort of moving knobs to poke at. If they want to get rid of the keyboard - for God knows what reason - they will have to come up with something BETTER, not WORSE.

    That haptic thing for the blind actually looks very neat and something I could put to good use myself. Imagine being able to touch hands over Skype!

  113. You sir, are wrong. by remmelt · · Score: 1

    Check out the bottom right hand picture on this page:
    http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9070218&pageNumber=3

    Note the distinct boobie shaped "keyboard."

    NOW say tactile is out.

  114. Why wait?... by PinkyDead · · Score: 1

    Get one now on eBay

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  115. not offtopic! by pimpimpim · · Score: 1

    It's a good point: If everywhere were you type is the home row, then how do you type anything else than f and j.

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  116. Gestures, multitouch, natural writing. by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    Why should we type?

    You could use gestures (3 or 4 virtual keys thell the machine if you are typing numbers, upper or lower case letters, symbols) then you draw them.

    Or with multitouch you need 5 fingers to represent pretty much any letter, combine with autocompletion and you could be "typing" without looking and without needing major tactile points of reference.

    And of course there is hand writing recognition, that is getting better. In 7 years time in may be a solved problem.

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    1. Re:Gestures, multitouch, natural writing. by jo42 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why should we type? Because, you [bleep], typing on a keyboard is the fastest and most efficient way to get stuff into a computer.

      then you draw them You can type any letter or number far faster than you can draw it.

      hand writing Even if hand writing, or drawing recognition was 100%, you can still type a lot faster than you can write. Not to mention you can type for far longer than you can write without tiring.

      All of these alternate input ideas are bottom line stupid. You can type stuff faster into a computer than you could speak it. If voice recognition was 100%, then the computer would need to understand what you are saying.
    2. Re:Gestures, multitouch, natural writing. by Kelbear · · Score: 1

      Better handwriting recognition would be great(especially for making notes or diagrams), or new input methods in general.

      But thus far, only vocal dictation has been (sometimes) faster than my typing speed, but also comes with its own problems of voice strain, flubbed words(not failure to recognize, failure to dictate properly, a vocal typo), additional noise pollution, etc.

      Typing is pretty good as a method, I'd rather see an update to the layout and possible inputs. Some of the keys are a bit superfluous and there are some useful ones that I'd like to be included as a standard. For instance, Scroll Lock is rarely used, but I do need to bind a key globally for Ventrilo so it ends up way over on the Scroll lock button. But what if I need a similar global binding for another purpose? I'm stuck with other keys that already have a purpose/effect, or more likely an unwieldly key combination.

      A sarcasm tag is commonly lamented on the internet because bold, italic, and underlining doesn't give enough context for a statement. You need to rephrase the entire sentence to establish context we can usually deliver by simply raising our eyebrow while saying it. Emotion modifiers on text would make our text communications considerably more flexible.

      However, keyboards are standardized, and so the real innovation here is developing incentives to get ideas implemented across a wide spectrum of devices/media.

  117. 2015?? by octal666 · · Score: 1

    I don't think a laptop 7 years from now will resemble a laptop at all. Maybe the laptops of 2010 will be like those.

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  118. Re:In the case of the DS, I get the 'flip-ability' by skiman1979 · · Score: 1

    there is usually no inherent advantage to having multiple physically seperated screens, when you can just logically partition a single screen as necessary.
    Although it may be minor, one advantage of having multiple physically separate displays is that you can position them to your liking. I have a dual-screen flat-panel display setup at work. Each monitor is turned slightly so when I turn my head slightly to look at one or the other, that screen is facing directly at me. I'm looking at it straight on, instead of at a slight angle. Also, if I prefer, I can rotate one or both of the displays to a portrait orientation instead of landscape depending on what I'm working on.
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  119. Touch Keyboard concerns by Blue23 · · Score: 1

    I use an old IBM model M keyboard - date on the back 03-15-90. It's got the most fantastic key action and tactile feedback of any keyboard I've ever used. (It's also one loud keyboard when I'm machine-gunning across it, but that's not exactly a feature. :) ) I remembering ridiculing the TI-99 and Atari 400 with their "mylar beep-keys" because they didn't have any key action. This is the same, but without even a tactile edge to each key.

    With a widescreen form factor I think they can get close enough to a standard qwerty keyboard (without the num pad) that I won't get upset about the size. I've got think fingers and when I've tried typing on a friend's iPhone it was garbage. As long as it's a good size they should be able to do that okay. But I'd stay away from small form-factor laptops, just like I do now. It's a recognized problem (anyone remember the old Thinkpad butterfly keyboards?), I can't hold it for or against touchscreen keyboards.

    On last concern is what switching to using the touch-screen keyboard area for eBook reading or something - does it come with a dispenser of screen cleanser? I'm sure it'll be rife with fingerprints. I wonder what can be done with materials to retard pickup of skin oils.

    These seem just right for "concept" laptops. Some ideas may be commercially viable and get adopted, others are neat but wouldn't find wide enough appeal to be picked up except in some high-end vanity laptops.

    Cheers,
    =Blue(23)

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  120. OS by Wite_Noiz · · Score: 1

    And yet only one of them uses Vista and 2 use XP... such faith from the industry ;)

  121. XP by osarusan · · Score: 1

    Wouldn't you know it -- the laptops in 2015 are still running Windows XP!

  122. Seven years? That's almost tomorrow. by Fantastic+Lad · · Score: 1
    Hm. Seven years seems to be the average time-span of my computer gear between replacements.


    Back in 2001, (seven years ago), I replaced my trusty 14" Samsung flat screen with a flashy new 21.5" Samsung. --For which, I'll mention for no particular reason, I paid about half the price I did for the old 14", which was about $650 at the time. --The old one, btw, still works perfectly, so I donated it to a friend of mine who was still glaring at a blurry old CRT.

    I originally bought that cute 14" to replace my gimungus 17" CRT monitor for which I paid almost $1200 for back in 1994, (another 7-year gap, and as I consider it now, another price-drop of 50%). That old CRT beast always frightened me a little; it made this huge "BZZZONG!" sound when I turned it on, and it did that high-pitch whine thing which drove me crazy for the 7 years I had it in use. It wasn't working quite perfectly on the day I finally replaced it; the colors were no longer consistent across the screen. In any case, I was happy to give up three inches of screen real-estate in favor of the new flat screen just to MAKE THAT &#$@# HIGH PITCH WHINE GO AWAY. I'd been waiting years for that day, and honestly, I don't know why it didn't arrive sooner.

    Nonetheless, some technology I have is well over seven years old. --I currently still regularly use a little portable word-processor/PDA thing with a full laptop keyboard and an 8.5" screen, an (HP Jornada 820), which was built back in 1998, making it 10 years old today. It's slow and has very little memory, and the screen isn't so great with only 256 shakey colors, but since I use it as a dedicated word processor, it does its job exceptionally well. --Unfortunately, it has a cracked hinge which keeps getting worse even after a makeshift repair job, and I wonder how much longer it's going to last before the screen breaks off altogether. Still, the remaining hinge seems to be holding fast, so we'll see. If I treat it gingerly, maybe it will last until 2015.

    If Asus ever makes their little "eee" series with screens larger than 7", (which is a tad too small for my taste; the 8.5" Jornada screen feels limiting enough as it is), I might consider picking one of them up, though the boot and muck around time is still slow compared to the instant-on my Jornada offers. (It's great being able to flip open the Jornada, hit "On" and have the document I'm working on right there with the cursor flashing in anticipation. Total luxury, and it came from 1998, for crying out loud! I can't stand it when industry abandons good ideas.) --Though, I hear Asus is planning to put out a version with a larger screen sometime this year. I'd like to try out the keyboard, but none of the dealers around here carry the eee, (or even know what I'm talking about when I ask, weirdly enough). My Jornada's keyboard is a perfect size, and the eee's is a little less than an inch smaller, which concerns me somewhat. I'd really like to like the eee, but it just doesn't quite make the grade.

    Maybe I'll just buy a plastic-welding unit to fix that hinge. . .

    Okay, I'm rambling now. My two points I started out trying to make are these; 1. Seven years is in my experience a logical break-point with regard to computer hardware. And 2. Based on experience, I don't expect a whole lot of advancement from the industry between now and 2015.

    Going from CRT to flatscreen was huge, but that was longer than 7 years in the brewing and everybody could see it coming. I can't really see anything new coming down the pike at the moment. I guess the only thing I'd ask is for somebody to make another portable word processor with a lap-top sized keyboard and a decent-sized screen, and with as few moving parts as possible. --Oh, and a loooong battery life. The Asus eee is almost it, but not quite. Maybe another 7 years will do the trick. Here's to hoping!

    Oh, and non-tactile keyboards suck. I bet everybody on the bridge of the next-gen Enterprise had sore finger tips and cringes at the smears all over their workstations. Yuk!


    -FL