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Firefox 3 RC1 Out Now
Jay writes "Firefox 3 Release Candidate 1 is out now. If yours didn't auto-update, then get it while it's hot! The release came a bit early, with Computer World noting: 'As recently as last Saturday, Mozilla's chief engineer said that although the company had locked down RC1's code, it was planning to publicly launch the build in "late May."'" My copy just downloaded — restarting after I save this story. God I hope it's better than the last beta.
So is firefox 3 going to crash as much on Linux as Firefox 2 has been? Its been almost as bad as Netscape 4+ were. Actually I take that back, it is worse than it was as far as stability goes. Why are we going backwards? When I use Firefox in Windows, it much more stable.
"So simple a grandmother can use it"
This is offensive. I am a grandmother, and a C programmer.
What was wrong with Beta 5?
Seems to work flawlessly here on my Eee PC 701. I never installed XP on my Eee so I can't compare it to that, only to the FF I have installed on my desktop, and the stability is the same - no complaints, no crashes so far.
"The agriculture ministry is not in charge of Gundam" - Japanese ministry official.
Does anyone have the changelog compared to beta 5?
It takes a man to suffer ignorance and smile
Be yourself no matter what they say
What has changed since beta5? Grannies might not be interested, but geeks are...
The only problem I saw on Linux was the growth of the "urlclassifier3.sqlite" file. When it grew over 20 MB, it was necessary to delete it.
Were there other problems? Because apart from the above, I used the last beta every day on Ubuntu, MS Windows, and OS X and had no problems.
Rich And Stupid is not so bad as Working For Rich And Stupid.
Firefox 3.0 RC1 is not out yet. There is a build 1 for RC1, but RC1 is not expected until near the end of the month.
For the last year, I have consistently seen on the Windows version an annoying bug. If one tab takes forever to load, any other tab will not load a new page either. I find Ebay is one of the worst to bring it out. If you switch to using IE in a tab, that tab will show about:blank.
I can understand some websites may make a Firefox tab crap out but it shouldn't affect the rest.
MOZILLA FIREFOX END-USER SOFTWARE LICENSE AGREEMENT
Version 3.0, May 2008
A source code version of certain Firefox Browser functionality that you may use, modify and distribute is available to you free-of-charge from www.mozilla.org under the Mozilla Public License and other open source software licenses.
The accompanying executable code version of Mozilla Firefox and related documentation (the "Product") is made available to you under the terms of this Mozilla Firefox End-User Software License Agreement (the "Agreement"). By clicking the "Accept" button, or by installing or using the Mozilla Firefox Browser, you are consenting to be bound by the Agreement. If you do not agree to the terms and conditions of this Agreement, do not click the "Accept" button, and do not install or use any part of the Mozilla Firefox Browser.
During the Mozilla Firefox installation process, and at later times, you may be given the option of installing additional components from third-party software providers. The installation and use of those third-party components may be governed by additional license agreements.
1. LICENSE GRANT. The Mozilla Corporation grants you a non-exclusive license to use the executable code version of the Product. This Agreement will also govern any software upgrades provided by Mozilla that replace and/or supplement the original Product, unless such upgrades are accompanied by a separate license, in which case the terms of that license will govern.
2. TERMINATION. If you breach this Agreement your right to use the Product will terminate immediately and without notice, but all provisions of this Agreement except the License Grant (Paragraph 1) will survive termination and continue in effect. Upon termination, you must destroy all copies of the Product.
3. PROPRIETARY RIGHTS. Portions of the Product are available in source code form under the terms of the Mozilla Public License and other open source licenses (collectively, "Open Source Licenses") at http://www.mozilla.org/MPL. Nothing in this Agreement will be construed to limit any rights granted under the Open Source Licenses. Subject to the foregoing, Mozilla, for itself and on behalf of its licensors, hereby reserves all intellectual property rights in the Product, except for the rights expressly granted in this Agreement. You may not remove or alter any trademark, logo, copyright or other proprietary notice in or on the Product. This license does not grant you any right to use the trademarks, service marks or logos of Mozilla or its licensors.
4. PRIVACY POLICY. You agree to the Mozilla Firefox Privacy Policy, made available online at http://www.mozilla.com/legal/privacy/, as that policy may be changed from time to time. When Mozilla changes the policy in a material way a notice will be posted on the website at www.mozilla.com and when any change is made in the privacy policy, the updated policy will be posted at the above link. It is your responsibility to ensure that you understand the terms of the privacy policy, so you should periodically check the current version of the policy for changes.
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IranAir Flight 655 never forget!
This is really good news. Will be updating ASAP. Btw, never ever had any stability issues with ff3 on linux, while opera handles flash very crappy these days (and flash v.9.0.124 doesn't work at all in it). IMHO, the only problem of FF3 now is that some extensions are not yet ported (notably, firebug :( ).
http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/3.0/releasenotes/
Slashdot posts don't include swearing in the story summaries, so why is it acceptable to use the word 'God' as an expletive? I find it very offensive and it reflects poorly on a site which I have enjoyed for a long time.
Disclaimer: I realise that it's very unpopular to be a christian on slashdot at the moment, so please don't start a flamewar about the relative merits of belief vs athiesm.
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Can you turn off the "Awesomebar"?
No?
Not interested.
I am sorry for offtopic post, but Firefox was a bit of regression for me. The new page info doesn't contain outgoing links. I haven't used it much in fact, but few days ago I needed to paste few links into wget and found that out.
;-) I installed the web developer toolbar in the end, but it's not very nice to copy it from there and it comes with a lot of other stuff I don't really need.
Yes, I know they are planning an extension for that, but I wanted to use it now (I have Ubuntu) and I would like to note - try to find extension using google which will list links on page.
Why is there such movement in OSS lately that thinks that removal of features will be an improvement for users? It's strikingly similar to Wikipedia's deletionist movement. Organization of features/information, not removal, is the key.
I've been running this build now for 4 days straight going to countless sites that use every which plugins for movies and flash and javascript and so far considering it hasn't crashed on me in windows I'd say it's pretty solid.
:)
Although I am running a Q6600 with 4GB. But Beta 5 used to crash on me every 2 hours.
Now to business,
Firebug Official for FF3 Please
Thanks to Firefox 3 betas I've managed *finally* to convert my wife to use FF. Only if I could get her using something other than Microsoft Live Messenger or get Messenger working with Wine I could get rid of our last WinXP installation.
Still it only scored a 71 safari scored 74. I don't see what it couldn't score 100% on the test. Closed Source Browsers such as IE, Safari and even Opera I would expect not to reach 100% because they need to make a browser that satisifys demmand but for these open source products I would expect them to try for full computability at least for bragging rights.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
So is firefox 3 going to crash as much on Linux as Firefox 2 has been
I have been using Firefox 3beta 5 for a while and haven't had the crashes when visiting Gmail, that I had experienced in Firefox 2.x. I had experienced one or two crashes when running certain Javascript. It should be noted that I do have the "Web Developer" and "Firebug" extensions installed. In general its stable enough for my needs.
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
beta5 -> RC1 was just bug fixes, as far as i can tell. And while SunSpider does help indicate javascript performance, ACID3 is fairly pointless, testing for CSS & html compliance is more relevant:
http://www.css3.info/selectors-test/test.html
FF3b5 & FF3 RC1 are the same 36/43 7unsupported (373/578) though as they wont be fixed till FF4
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I tried updating twice it downloads the 2.9meg update and then says it can not update. Anyone else have this problem on OSX ? I guess I will keep using beta 5 until release version of FF 3 is out.
I had a similar issue, but with digg. NoScript stopped it crashing so I could at least read comments.
while the actual culprit is Adobe Flash.
Jerks will be jerks, tho... Adobe and the complainers that is.
Go to about:config and create a new boolean entry called "extensions.checkCompatibility". Set to false.
Beware, while most of them still work fine some old extensions will most definetely kill FF3. (Google toolbar, I'm looking at you!)
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this rc doesn't import the bookmarks from version 2
Firefox 3 always starts maximized in Mac OS. Anyone else notice this annoyance? Better yet, anyone know how to change this behavior?
Btw anybody on ubuntu 7.10 needs to install ca-certificates, for automated bug reporting to work #407748
sudo apt-get install ca-certificates
That should fix, "there was a problem sending your bug report".
IranAir Flight 655 never forget!
I'm not sure exactly what was wrong... something was corrupted for sure but a variety of javascript was simply not being processed. Flash wasn't loading, possibly due to lack of javascript as so many flash embeds are done that way now....
In any case if you have any problems on OSX you might want to try moving all your prefs and addons/extensions/etc anything mozilla or firefox and starting up FF3 RC1 as a brand new install.
I only use FF to test websites (love safari) and occasionally to do some rigorous script debugging with firebug. So I don't have any bookmarks or other settings I care about. You may want to find out how to save those things for re-import later if you use it daily.
A fool throws a stone into a well and a thousand sages can not remove it.
It's kind of a lot of work for something that's basically tits on a boar for 99% of users.
Jesus is coming -- look busy!
On MacOS the Sunspider test is faster than on Safari 3.1 - 2616 as against 2900~
(It is a bit difficult to tell whether it "feels faster" as I am on a Mac Pro dual quad core 6gig Ram and everything feels like shit off a shovel....)
I'm surprised at the number of people with stability problems. I tried 3.0a1 and I had instant crashes in AJAX web apps, so I decided to wait until b1 which turned out to be a good decision, because it was much more stable. Each beta has been increasingly better. I still get a couple crashes here and there but I am betting it's due to Flash or an add-on I'm using.
On Linux I use Swiftfox, which is a recompiled Firefox optimized for individual processors so it can be even a little faster than Firefox 3. Only problem is they occasionally push out a nightly build over their update package source thingy (I tend to prefer the public beta releases) but nothing that has been unstable yet.
If you're having stability problems, you really have no right to complain until you at least TRY to fix it since Firefox gives you the tools to do so. To use another car analogy, it's like complaining your car doesn't slow down fast enough so you need a different one but you haven't even tried using the brakes yet. Well not exactly but I needed to use a car analogy. Anyways here's some things you should try:
If you still have problems it's likely a problem with Firefox, in which case I suppose you could complain, but it would be more productive to file a bug report to increase the chances of it being fixed. To quote GLaDOS, "Thank you for helping us help you help us all."
It does work with FF 3 RC1. Granted to get the latest version to work you have to go about it a round-about way.
.xpi is just a zip file, so open the zip and find the install.rdf file. In there there's a section like this:
I have my add-ons compatibility check disabled in FF via the config (though I believe this would work fine even with that enabled).
To get the newest version, you have to go directly to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/downloads/file/15109/firebug-1.05-fx+fl.xpi via a link and save target as like this
The
[-- Firebug --]
[em:targetApplication]
[Description]
[em:id]{ec8030f7-c20a-464f-9b0e-13a3a9e97384}[/em:id]
[em:minVersion]1.5[/em:minVersion]
[em:maxVersion]2.0.0.*[/em:maxVersion]
[/Description]
[/em:targetApplication]
Change the [em:maxVersion]2.0.0.*[/em:maxVersion] line from 2.0.0.* to 3.0.0.*
This will make FF think it's a valid add-on (If you don't do this and just have the compat check disabled the add-on or something knows it's not compat and won't run).
Beyond that, it's currently telling me there's 12 Errors with the comments/replying setup lol
Especially as passing the ACID test for the sake of it will not actually improve the user experience.
ACID 3 passes should come naturally, there shouldn't be the webkit style rush to pass because its only improved the browser as a side-effect instead of passing the test as a side-effect.Its like learning the answer's to a test instead of actually learning the material, sure you'll pass the test but when you go out to do some real world work/browsing, it wont of helped.
This all combined with the fact that ACID doesn't test standards compliance, as a firefox user I'm glad they're not wasting their time on it.
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Webkit, the KHTML-based rendering engine behind Safari, is open-source, go fetch it from webkit.org and build it / see for yourself. Its nightly builds have been rendering acid3 100% for quite some time now. Wipe before extracting information.
3866.0ms for Safari Version 3.1 (5525.13)
After like 10 years I'm still reading the "works on my machine" posts with no mention of the machine type.
;)
I call them the "Well, its raining HERE" comments.
You need to identify the (OS::distro) and plugins in use for these "Release [ ] suxx0rs!!!" posts to have any meaning.
I generally find that if that question is answered, it's some guy running the L33tware distro in 24MB of RAM on a Transmeta Crusoe who is enraged that his opensource software crashes, and no, he hasn't logged a bug because God told him that it is destiny to always have bugless software AND will be Lord of Faerun in time.
(No offense to parent
Your comment leads me to believe you've never done any significant software development work. Consider that the Acid3 test was released at the tail end of the Gecko development cycle. This puts Mozilla in a bad position, because they were already at feature freeze and didn't want to further delay the final release. So, shooting for Acid3 compliance at this point would be the height of stupidity.
The Acid3 test is also a bit controversial in its own right. Acid1 and Acid2 addressed broad compatibility with several core web standards, without regard for any particular browser. In contrast, Acid3 covers an odd mix of quirks chosen to intentionally highlight bugs in different browsers. Acid3 also includes a random mix of features from things like SMIL and SVG, which are enormously complex standards not supported in their entirety by any major browser. That also means that Acid3 can be gamed by simply implementing just enough of a feature to pass the test, but not enough to be genuinely useful in practice.
Simply put, Acid3 is a much less useful test than the previous versions. I have no doubt that Mozilla will eventually pass, but they won't delay the Firefox 3.0 release and have made it clear that they won't play the partial implementation game to beat the test.
Call me crazy but shouldn't a piece of software not be labeled a release candidate when it still has a list of known issues. I realize that big software shops (I'm looking at you Microsoft) do this all the time and will even release a product with a whole bunch of known issues still unresolved (again I'm looking at you Microsoft) but it seems to me that you wouldn't label something a release candidate until you were at a point where you thought all known issues were resolved. Hence the title release candidate. If nothing no new serious bugs or security holes are found this is it.
It would be "nice" if the plugins developers would KEEP UP with the growing revisions of Firefox. I haven't been able to use FF on the Mac yet, since the plugins I depend on are slow to be updated.
Yeah, I know you can hack the install to override it, but come on.
Opera 9.50 Beta 2 On Kubuntu 8.04 KDE 4:
Acid3 test: 78/100
Don't know what numbers to post from the SunSpider test.
I apparently still need to wait for compatible versions of "FireFTP" and "Download Embedded" to come out. :\
"He who can destroy a thing, controls a thing." --Paul Atreides, Dune
It seems really, really slow. Is anyone else seeing this?
It depends on the religion... in my religion the more you use God as an expletive the more beer volcanoes and stripper factories you will get in heaven... so please explete as much as you can
I used this daily since beta 4 on Linux, superiorly sweet. After getting used to the awesomebar (I don't know, but I imagine some sort of guy shouting AWWWWWYEEEEEAAAAAAAAH!!!!!! when I think of the bar's name...) and the smart bookmarks/tagging I can't go back. My experience has been quite stable...after I disabled flash. Only one random crash a few weeks ago in a site with faulty code. I am very happy so far.
Also, if you don't dig the Linux skin or some Stylish (such as Vista Theme) doesn't work, I have seen a small fix in http://hetdegon.deviantart.com/ (of all places...), just replacing the linux chrome.jar from a windows version. (Seriously, why is the linux skin so abominably ugly?)
Swell. Google Earth's download page is still crashing it.
Forget Flash which is notorious for eating CPU time. Just turn it off through a utility known as Flashblock until you need it. Then you can save CPU cycles for other more important tasks.
"Flashblock is an extension for the Mozilla, Firefox, and Netscape browsers that takes a pessimistic approach to dealing with Macromedia Flash content on a webpage and blocks ALL Flash content from loading. It then leaves placeholders on the webpage that allow you to click to download and then view the Flash content."
Of course, high end commercial packages will be here for a while.
What the OSS movement has done well is to provide alternatives to commodity software so that the ancillaries don't smoke your budget. OSS can also provide add-ons that the mainline vendor has not built into their official package releases.
Applying what I have learned through this site, I have completely replaced IE as a browser, and because MS-Office 7 is so silly, *almost* replaced that with Open Office (the 3.0 betas are out, and can handle the new extensions.)
Now when we buy software, at least I can be satisfied when it's spent on first-tier applications rather than the result of a 25-year old weasel deal in Seattle.
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I'm just hoping the new version displays the web the way that IE does. I realize most everyone on the blog is just Pro anything free and Anti anything MS, but when I first starting using FF, I noticed all over where images and items on websites were out-of-place. I then switched back to IE and everything looked right. If FF can just produce all websites as consistently as IE, I'll make the switch.
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Not quite.
Somewhere around Beta 3 and 4 in Windows, Yahoo Mail was giving me fits. One of my work sites was also rather nutty-rendered.
Beta 5 was at least better, and I am sure RC1 will be at least modestly better still, so now we're back on track.
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A bit early? It was originally promised in late April!
Bugs can still lie dormant, but when someone eventually becomes motivated to fix it, they can usually get their results out faster without having to deal with private company politics.
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Pictures at Eleven - Robert Plant's first solo album. It was about fifteen years before I realised it was referring to US television news.
[ ]Half Empty [ ]Half Full [x]Twice as big as it needs to be
I think about "Trust Grids". It's about who has what agenda.
On one corner, I was late to understand, but I watched enough of MS's tricks unfold live to absolutely distrust everything they do.
My verdict is out on Apple.
Some of the famous OSS icons have their special situations, but I feel that their mistakes are somewhat easier to both see through and counteract afterward.
Because I have no programming skill at all, I have to trust someone; I currently trust the independent coders as a cohesive whole to produce purer code because that's in their best interests long term.
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I, for one, welcome my C-Coding grandmotherly overlords.
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With FF3rc1, the "flash" ad at the top right of the page is all black, and FF is clearing space for it too far to the left, wiping out a third of the text of the top article.
If like me you prefer typing urls and find the Awesomebar intrusive, this is how to make it so you don't feel the urge to rant like the AC above.
1) Download Oldbar from Mozilla.org https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227. This makes it look like the FF2 addressbar.
Then, open about:config and:
2) Edit this key browser.urlbar.maxRichResults and set the value to 5 or 6.
3) Most importantly create this key: browser.urlbar.matchOnlyTyped type Boolean Value: true
The Awesomebar will now behave almost like the FF2 addressbar.
Cultist of the Average Middle-Aged Ones
So it's not my imagination that the "new form" makes it more easy to accidentally post as AC by not having an on-demand login field?
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I'd opine that it is more important; promoting "alternative" software to the management types requires a tricky blend of eye-candy and stability. Most of my discussions went easier when you can say "This software does _____"
I'm seeing a lot of remarks about flash, and if a particular important reference site you you just happens to have that magic combination of elements to take you down, it's a tough initial impression to erase.
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Two of my favorite / most-used extensions are DownloadHelpder and TabsOpenRelative.
Both of them are broken in this new RC. I installed it (before knowing that), and at least it was kind enough to say after the update was complete that a) these extensions don't work and b) that the program would seek updates periodically to find if a new version *does* work.
Would have been a lot handier to know that up-front though; I wouldn't have done the upgrade, actually, if I'd known that.
timothy
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OK, I feel like a right idiot asking this, but I'm new to Linux and am still finding my way.
How do I install this update?
I downloaded firefox-3.0rc1.tar.bz2, but it only opens with the archive manager. I've extracted everything into a new folder, but nothing there seems to install the package.
There's a file called "updater", but nothing happens when I click on it. Clicking on the file named "Firefox" starts Firefox, after going through a EULA dialog at least the first time, but the b05 package is still what usually runs. Is installation not actually necessary?
"Check for Updates" under Help/About is grayed out.
I Googled for "firefox rc1 install" and several variations thereof, and remain unenlightened. It almost seems as if this update should happen automatically and transparently, but it's not happening for me.
Yes, I am using an account with admin powers.
I'm running Ubuntu 8.04, and ran the update manager before obtaining the FF release candidate.
Current FF version is 3 b05, which came with Ubuntu.
What am I missing?
I have to say, mysterious installation has been one of the major thorns in converting me whole heartedly to Linux. Sometimes it happens automagically, sometimes I can't figure out how to do it at all, and often I can find no information about how to install/update a package. Over and over, install instructions go no further than "download and install", which doesn't help much if the install doesn't start itself.
In the wrong hands, sanity is a dangerous weapon.
That's why Memorial Weekend is much anticipated.
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FWIW, RC1 for Windows imported only a few of my v2 bookmarks and won't allow me to import a backup html of them into v3. It also blew out my v2 cookies. Just a heads up for those considering installing RC1 - backup your bookmarks and cookies. I had to uninstall RC1 and reinstall v2 just to be able to use my bookmarks.
"There is nothing more unequal than the equal treatment of unequal people." - Thomas Jefferson
good thing the acid test doesn't mean anything, or else I might care :|
..they had different names for which browser on which OS. Just saying firefox gets confusing, because they are different. -> "what ya driving?" "a ford" "well ya, but *which* ford, the one that just had the huge recall, or what?"
Frankly, I'd like to see a major split/fork and have the FF linux devs just go their own way and be done with it and not have to be part of trying to make stuff work on windows so they can have universal releases all the time. And change the name.
Also, correct error handling is part of being standard compliant.
Which bit of the meaning of "Beta" didn't you get?
Well, since this is about FF3? It's supposedly FASTER on javascript parsing & processing now, than Opera 9.27 is (& yes, it's been legitimately tested, so I have to concede that in betas & release candidates, FF has done well in THIS area so far vs. Opera)...
.pdf files lately)...
However, for how long?
Opera's "Ruled That Roost" for forever & a day, for speed overall + javscript processing, & Opera 9.50 beta has a really good shot @ overtaking them there (IF history is ANY indicator, & it usually is)...
HOWEVER - the thing is though, about javascript?
(Heck, if you pay attention to ANY security sites?? It's one of, if not THE most used attack vactor in webbrowsers, email clients, & even Adobe
Personally?? I keep javascript OFF for any sites (which, for me, IS MOST OF THEM) that do NOT absolutely demand it for practical function (not just "eye candy" stuff) - stuff like online banking &/or shopping sites qualify here, but that's about it...
APK
I agree.
Here's a good example of how useless ACID3 is:
http://blog.codedread.com/archives/2008/03/26/webkit-nightly-not-smiling/
Webkit gets 100/100 on ACID3, which includes SVG tests, yet webkit only gets 5/116 on SVG animation compliance.
Implementing the bare minimum to pass acid3 is a disservice to everyone.
Eric Meyer also has a bunch to say on how acid3 is a "missed opportunity"
http://meyerweb.com/eric/thoughts/2008/03/27/acid-redux/
Bah, what the OSS movement should have provided is an open platform where every software maker could compete just on merit, both closed and open source. Just let the better software win.
That would attract all developers from open and proprietary platforms and doom Microsoft faster than any current strategy.
Right now Linux is hostile to closed source and that of course, makes closed source companies hostile to Linux.
We are Turing O-Machines. The Oracle is out there.
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Anyone with same problem? Windows XP plus Firefox3.0RC1
"You are temporarily on the classic version of Windows Live Hotmail due to an error encountered during login. Before trying again, please clear your cache and cookies."
FF beta seems okish on my Ubuntu install. Only niggle I had was none of my add ons would work with it, but I kind of expected that anyway.
After installing FF3/RC1 I ran the Acid 3 test [acidtests.org] and the SunSpider JavaScript Benchmark [webkit.org]. RC1 scored a 71, the same as Beta 5. The SunSpider test came up 4698.6ms for RC1. On Beta 5 it was 4757.2ms. Not really much of a difference as far as tests go. I was hoping for some better results, but overall RC1 seems responsive and stable.
I am using RC1 on MacOS X 10.5 and find it beach balling a fair amount. I never had this issue with beta 5. It has gotten so bad that I am tempted to go back to the beta until this is sorted.
Jumpstart the tartan drive.
There's so many add-ons/extensions these days, you really expect them all to keep up?
I'm sure many of them that had previously updated for the 3.0 betas just have to bump their version from 3.0pre to 3.0; others may still be working on updating to 3.0 for the first time.
Depending on what parts of Firefox they extend that may be more challenging/time consuming.
Expect quite a few to be updated as soon as it dawns on the authors that 3.0 RC1 is out. If they don't know it's out, they won't know to update it yet. If you believe that's the case you could help them out by throwing them a message "RC1 is out, if possible bump your version and go through your tests to make sure nothing broke," assuming they've updated to 3.0 betas previously.
-HobophobE
Nothing laughs forever.
I hope I can save you the time of looking for the latest dev version that installs and works without problems in RC1...
http://groups.google.com/group/greasemonkey-users/browse_thread/thread/d686360296d0f7cf#
The current version available from mozilla.org refuses to install. You can install the dev version without having to turn off 'compatibility' checking.
I just can't live without "Disable Text Ads" from Userscripts.org. Getting rid of IntelliTXT, Adbrite et al, really makes
the pages safe to mouse-over again! Script: http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/3637
Though I agree it shouldn't be high on the list of priorities.
upon the advice of my lawyer, i have no sig at this time
I'm not sure what they changed in this version, but I don't have all these extensions yet the update killed my firefox. What was worse, it killed my 2.0.0.14 install as well, and it took me a long time backing up and killing all my local Mozilla profiles in order to just get the 2.0.0.14 version working.
I hope the hundred or so error reports that got sent during my testing helps them unfuck this release before it goes gold. This is the kind of broken update I've come to expect from Microsoft, which is kind of why I use Firefox to begin with.
I just tested FF3 RC1 with Acid 2 and it didn't render properly. Beta 5 passed Acid 2 RC1 doesn't... does anyone else find that strange?
1. Thanks for letting me know about swiftfox. I'm going to have to check that out.
2. Very nice troubleshooting tips and also the known issues info.
upon the advice of my lawyer, i have no sig at this time
Beta 5 has working DPI, but that's stopped in RC1. Most people won't notice, but I'm running a CRT at 1600x1200 and everything came up postage stamp (just barely readable if you squint). Changing the fonts helped a bit, but every new page had to be resized manually.
I found that changing browser.screen_resolution in about:config mostly fixed it, but all the buttons and stuff at the top of the browser are still too small, and some pop up menus are tiny.
-WolfWithoutAClause
"Gravity is only a theory, not a fact!"Issue one and I'm not sure what it is, but youtube and flash video seems fishy - despite me installing the same plugin it suggests on a fresh install (which normally works under 2)
:(
(Videos load, won't play just kinda sits there showing the first frame)
Second issue, not Mozillas fault - oh god I'm dying without google browser sync
(Also RC1 killed compatibility with 'tabs menu' which is a brilliant little tool, it gives you 'tabs' up the top - much like 'windows' so you can change to whichever tab you like quickly)
What are you talking about? I've been using the "new form" back since beta days, and I've never had any problems with accidently posting as AC. PEBKAC, perhaps? Or an ID10T error?
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Oh, we certainly get all sorts at Slashdot
Maybe you shouldn't have cheated on your English tests. Then you'd still be in Internet Explorer's grade where you belong.
Watch this Heartland Institute video
Installed it, caused my PC to hang. Then found out that adblock doesn't work. So, back to beta5 again
Use Ablock Plus, it works with FF3rc1. I also personally find it handier than Adblock.
Cultist of the Average Middle-Aged Ones
By 'machine optimized', do you mean:
.avi it animates (partially also here on this note to make it "1 moving part only simple" also), so the screensaver plays the series intro. back from RAM, not disk, for more speed/efficiency (the new series intro. of the tardis vectoring thru a wormhole/time-tunnel, etc.))))
Using INLINE ASM (inline assembly code) directives & code in say, C/C++ (Delphi can do this also, but I am fairly certain that FF is built in C++, correct?) for say, the x86 platform, & thus gaining speed MAINLY based upon that (instead of say, a "better algorithm/engine/technique")?
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Fact is, I did that type of work for this screensaver:
APK Doctor Who ScreenSaver 2008++ version 1.0:
http://www.drwhodaily.com/community/index.php?showtopic=386
For that program, when possible? I used Inlined Assembler code (via the ASM directive which Delphi also supports) for the best in speed.
(@ times, & @ others? Well sometimes, I did have to "rethink" how I structured or coded various routines (sometimes using inline assembler, instead of higher-level object-oriented Delphi code (or, even Win32 API stuff), & then, for the SLOWEST ones, I would try to (& many times did) redo them + eventually used multiple thread design & internal storage of the
In the end, it did net me better performance on a VERY OLD test system a pal of mine owns no less, who is also a fan of this series!
By the use of "hi-res multimedia timers"?
Well, it's kind of an "old-school" way of "profiling" your code... & by that, I mean that I 'ticked off' the time each routine took & wrote the output to a file each time via the use of high-resolution multimedia timer counts (which I registered w/ the system & ran in my code) to get those numbers to work on my slowest routines, & it tended to work out well... well enough so that the code runs on a system as "low/slow/old" as a CELERON Pentium II @ 400mhz w/ only 64mb of RAM on it no less...
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Anyhow - on FF3 being faster @ JAVASCRIPT PROCESSING?
Well, iirc, I read about it here in fact, in regards to FF3 being faster than Opera (finally, for once) in the area of javascript processing, but... I cannot recall the exact details!
Thanks for the 'refresher/update' on this note...
APK
No it was a troll, as it got modded as such. But the point was to point out that Open Source projects by being open source and popular doesn't make the product any better then closed source apps. I am personally sick of hearing Open Source is superior Closed source is inferior technically crap It is SOFTWARE and the Developers make the quality not the stincken license.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
OK at least people understood what I said. Vs. your sentence while possibly spelling and grammatically correct, makes no sense.
If something is so important that you feel the need to post it on the internet... It probably isn't that important.
"The web browser isn't your problem. Instead you should seek the help of a doctor to determine if you are a good candidate for some type of mental illness."
Anger problem?
Definitely an employee at Opera could build a vulnerability into the next version. There is no evidence, apparently, that such a thing has happened, but it could happen, especially if there are financial problems at Opera.
Note that everyone uses GnuPG and TrueCrypt for EXACTLY the same reason. The openness gives greater security.
First you said AdBlock Plus is unsupported. Now you say you've always been using it but it doesn't work. Of course, now I understand perfectly.
What a fool believes, he sees, no wise man has the power to reason away.
Ah, some truth on Slashdot. Refreshing. By engadging in a war on everything closed source open source advocates are screwing the pooch and throwing the baby out with the bath water.
I have a tab that causes Firefox to (near) freeze, which means 100% CPU load and a restart of FF.
I'd certainly love a way to find out which tab causes this.
Bye egghat
-- "As a human being I claim the right to be widely inconsistent", John Peel
And Thunderbid 3.0 alpha 1 is out too.
Firefox 3 Beta 5 worked on my comp and when it auto-updated to version 3 RC1 it crashed and never ran again. Now I'm without Firefox again. Today is a sad day for me.
Please try this and file a bug report:
1. Enable session saver (Options/Main/Startup: "When firefox starts": "show my windows and tabs from last time")
2a. Enable "clear private data on exit" (Options/Privacy/Private Data: Enable checkbox "Always clear private data when I close firefox")
2b. Click the "Settings" button and make sure "browsing history" is selected.
Now open a few tabs to different pages, then exit and restart firefox. What happens? All of your tabs from the last session are gone.
Expected behavior: history of past sites should be cleared, but the CURRENT sites that are open should not be.
Actual behavior: All history is cleared, as well as the tabs that were saved in the session.
Rationale: If the user doesn't want to have tabs re-opened when they start the browser, they can disable session saver.
This is a bug but because of incorrect logical thinking, it has been marked "wontfix". You can see the bug here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=398817
This is a privacy bug because it removes the ability of people to clear their history while still retaining sessions, and therefor people will disable clearing of history altogether.