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George Carlin Dead of Heart Failure

ashamanq was one of many who noted that comedian George Carlin has died of heart failure. Most famous for his "Seven Words You Can Never Say On TV" routine which resulted in a landmark supreme court ruling, he was a true voice against censorship, and also one of the funniest men ever. He was 71.

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  1. Smiling down. by davidpack01 · · Score: 5, Funny

    I think he's up there now, smiling down at us.

    1. Re:Smiling down. by suso · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um, I think you mean. May his body decay into the earth as nicely as fucking possible.

      Anyone who mentions "up there", "god", or "soul" in this article should be modded down.

    2. Re:Smiling down. by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Excepting for the fact that he would have called you a fucking moron for even suggesting that there is an "up there".

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      I drink to make other people interesting!
    3. Re:Smiling down. by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
      I just heard about this....man too bad. I spent much of my youth memorizing his records.

      I've only got 7 things to say about this tragic loss of one of my favorite guys for humor and social commentary:

      Shit......piss, fuck, cunt, cocksucker, motherfucker....and tits.

      R.I.P. George.

      :(

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    4. Re:Smiling down. by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Funny

      "I think he's up there now, smiling down at us."

      And God is patting him on the back saying: "Thanks for trying to clear up the 10 commandments thing".

      --
      And did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage? - Pink Floyd.
    5. Re:Smiling down. by HungSoLow · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We need a '-1 Dumbass'

    6. Re:Smiling down. by Gordonjcp · · Score: 5, Funny

      Obviously, his soul is smiling down from Joe Pesci's roof, where it got stuck.

    7. Re:Smiling down. by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Informative
      "Frisbeetarianism is the belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck."

      --George Carlin

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    8. Re:Smiling down. by cashman73 · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Having just watched his March 2008 HBO Special, he's certainly not, "smiling down at us." I think he's got better things to do now,...

      Jeebus, though! Tim Russert is barely in the ground and then the greatest comedy legend of all time goes belly up! This is turning into a lousy month!

      Carlin was certainly one of the best. I can remember seeing him at ODU back in the early 1990s ('93 or '94?). He was as funny then as his recent tours today. The world will be a different place without him. R.I.P., funnyman!

    9. Re:Smiling down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I guess you prefer it if we state:

        He's probably looking up at us from down there and saying, but it's a dry heat.

    10. Re:Smiling down. by Pvt_Ryan · · Score: 3, Funny

      He is officially an Ex-Carlin

    11. Re:Smiling down. by davidpack01 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I guess you haven't seen his last HBO special "It's Bad For Ya". 1:30 - ~2:35 http://youtube.com/watch?v=FvImP6P_czc

    12. Re:Smiling down. by sorak · · Score: 4, Informative

      Um, I think you mean. May his body decay into the earth as nicely as fucking possible.

      Anyone who mentions "up there", "god", or "soul" in this article should be modded down.

      Hey, George Carlin has a bit about that phrase. GP's reference is not disrespectful.
    13. Re:Smiling down. by Verteiron · · Score: 5, Funny

      Smiling? I bet not, but if he's got that kind of view, he's probably doing something on us.

      Sure wish it'd stop raining.

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      End of lesson. You may press the button.
    14. Re:Smiling down. by Aadomm · · Score: 5, Funny

      We sure do...

      --
      Mention the Lord of the Rings one more time and I'll more than likely kill you.
    15. Re:Smiling down. by cowscows · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Earlier this morning I was thinking about how with as much media as we have these days, and the so many types of "celebrity" that exist, soon we're quickly approaching a future where someone famous is going to be dying pretty much constantly. The cnn.com homepage will become just a slideshow of who died today, while real news websites will decide that it's not worth the trouble and maybe just move those sorts of stories to a little sidebar somewhere.

      --

      One time I threw a brick at a duck.

    16. Re:Smiling down. by SQLGuru · · Score: 4, Funny

      Why? There are plenty here already.

      Layne

    17. Re:Smiling down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Reminds me of Vonnegut talking about Asimov:

      I am honorary president of the American Humanist Association, having succeeded the late, great, spectacularly prolific writer and scientist, Dr. Isaac Asimov in that essentially functionless capacity. At an A.H.A. memorial service for my predecessor I said, "Isaac is up in Heaven now." That was the funniest thing I could have said to an audience of humanists. It rolled them in the aisles. Mirth! Several minutes had to pass before something resemble solemnity could be restored.

    18. Re:Smiling down. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I hope they put that on his tombstone.

    19. Re:Smiling down. by harks · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mr Conductor has gone to that great train station in the sky.

    20. Re:Smiling down. by gnick · · Score: 5, Informative

      Carlin was of Irish descent and was raised in the Roman Catholic faith.[22][23][24] - Wikipedia

      Anybody who mentions athiesm in a thread about a Christian's death should be modded flamebait or troll. Have a littlke respect, for God's sake.

      I'm not sure whether that's just a weird joke or not, but here.
      From the same Wikipedia article:

      Although raised in the Roman Catholic faith, Carlin often denounced the idea of God in interviews and performances, most notably with his "Invisible Man in the Sky" and "There Is No God" routines. In mockery, he invented the parody religion Frisbeetarianism for a newspaper contest. He defined it as the belief that when a person dies "his soul gets flung onto a roof, and just stays there", and cannot be retrieved.

      Carlin also joked that he worshipped the Sun, because he could actually see it, but prayed to Joe Pesci (a good friend of his in real life) because "he's a good actor", and "looks like a guy who can get things done!"[40]

      Carlin also introduced the "Two Commandments", a revised "pocket-sized" list of the Ten Commandments in his HBO special Complaints and Grievances, ending with the additional commandment of "Thou shalt keep thy religion to thyself."[41]

      --
      He's getting rather old, but he's a good mouse.
    21. Re:Smiling down. by tritonman · · Score: 5, Funny

      What? George Carlin Dead? I only have 7 words to say about this... SHIT PISS FUCK CUNT COCKSUCKER MOTHERFUCKER and TITS!

    22. Re:Smiling down. by phpWebber · · Score: 3, Informative

      To those who don't get the reference:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PiZSFIVFiU

      You may unsaddle your high-horse now.

    23. Re:Smiling down. by XorNand · · Score: 4, Funny

      I once had a first date with this *very* right wing girl I met at a party. When I picked her up, there was a typical uneasiness in the car so I switched on the radio for background noise. I immediately jumped to turn it off when I realized that I had left my Carlin CD in my CD player. She'd never heard any of his stuff and prompted me to turn it back on. I warned her that his stuff isn't for everyone but she insisted. Well, ok then...

      ::sound of audience clapping as Carlin takes the stage::

      (slight pause as he waits for the applause to die down)

      "Why... Why is it that most people who are against abortion are people you wouldn't want to fuck in the first place?"

      That was truly one of the greatest facepalm.jpg moments of my life. Suffice to say that the rest of the evening was a bit awkward.

      --
      Entrepreneur : (noun), French for "unemployed"
    24. Re:Smiling down. by CastrTroy · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Isn't that the funniest thing about this guy? His comedy routine is quite vulgar, and not anything for children to see, yet he did some time playing Mr. Conductor on the Thomas the Tank Engine show. It's really weird when you think about it. Also reminds me of Bob Saget. His actual stand up comedy routine stuff is quite a far stretch from his Full House and America's Funniest Home Videos stuff.

      --

      Anthropic principle: We see the universe the way it is because if it were different we would not be here to see it.
    25. Re:Smiling down. by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Even in all his rantings (he got a little less jovial after his wife died) he really didn't mock the individual specifically for believing something... he mocked the powerful, the privileged, and those who wanted to make a buck off the spritual nature of man... (the Pope included.) In other words, he poked holes in the pompous blowhards who think they know better than we do about ourselves and our own lives. If I got anything from his comedy (besides a sore side from laughing so hard), it was this: You are the individual... stop following others and looking to others to answer the questions _you_ have to answer. "Eyes on your own paper..."

      It was posted earlier w/r/t Joe Pesci... "Pick your supersition and enjoy yourself..."

      If you didn't, he probably would have fun at your expense, I guess. ;)

      --
      It's the Stay-Puft Marshmallow Man.
    26. Re:Smiling down. by LS · · Score: 3, Insightful

      First, i recognize that the GP is joking and that George Carlin was an athiest. Anyway, if this article was about a christian, would you say that "Anyone who mentions "decaying into the earth" in this article should be modded down"? Or if it was a buddhist would you attack athiestic or christian beliefs? I'm actually agnostic, but my point is that what happens after death is not decided by the beliefs of the dead, it's in the mind of the living, as no one really knows...

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      There is a fine line between being a cultivated citizen and being someone else's crop. - A. J. Patrick Liszkie
    27. Re:Smiling down. by pilgrim23 · · Score: 2, Funny

      Tut Tut! is that any way to speak around Thomas the Tank Engine?

      We will miss you Mr Conductor...

      --
      - Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum.
    28. Re:Smiling down. by Chanc_Gorkon · · Score: 2, Funny

      As George would say no they don't always go in threes. They go in a series of ONES!

      --

      Gorkman

    29. Re:Smiling down. by geminidomino · · Score: 2, Funny

      Look on the bright side.

      George probably saved you, in the long run.

    30. Re:Smiling down. by jedidiah · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Carlin's religiously inspired angst is not just some sideline. It's a
      key part of his personality and his work. Ironically enough, the
      Catholic institutions that he despised so much probably did him a
      remarkable amount of good considering his personal background.

      --
      A Pirate and a Puritan look the same on a balance sheet.
    31. Re:Smiling down. by elrous0 · · Score: 2, Funny

      At least you didn't have it on the "Rape is Funny" bit.

      --
      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  2. Those seven words... by sakdoctor · · Score: 3, Informative

    Shit, Piss, Fuck, Cunt, Cocksucker, Motherfucker, and Tits.

    Tits is now depreciated.

    1. Re:Those seven words... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      speak for yourself buddy...

      _I_ still appreciate tits.

    2. Re:Those seven words... by suso · · Score: 5, Funny

      Tits is now depreciated.

      Only your mom's are.
    3. Re:Those seven words... by this+great+guy · · Score: 3, Funny

      Oh shit you beat me to it motherfucker. Fuck. I am really pissed. Your mom is a cunt with big tits.

      Oh yeah I almost forgot: Cocksucker!

    4. Re:Those seven words... by cayenne8 · · Score: 3, Funny
      "Tits is now depreciated.

      Probably due to George Carlin. He makes an argument for its depreciation in his routine."

      "And tits shouldn't even be on the list..I mean, it sounds like a snack!!

      New...Nabisco TITS!!

      Cheese tits....onion tits....TATER Tits!!

      --
      Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    5. Re:Those seven words... by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Funny

      And tits shouldn't even be on the list..I mean, it sounds like a snack!! For some men, it is.
      --
      It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
    6. Re:Those seven words... by deniable · · Score: 3, Funny

      I really like the new Nabisco Tits. They're my favorite snack.

    7. Re:Those seven words... by tomhudson · · Score: 4, Funny

      >>>Tits is now depreciated.

      >>>Probably due to George Carlin. He makes an argument for its depreciation in his routine.

      >deprecated, moron

      Depreciation: assets with finite lives lose value over time.

      Deprecated: features that are superseded and should be avoided.

      Q: What does an 80-year-old have between her tits that an 18-yer-old doesn't?
      A: Her bellybutton.

      Sounds to me like tits are assets with finite lives that lose their value over time ...

    8. Re:Those seven words... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Tits is now depreciated."
      Tits have always depreciated. Their value is inversely proportional to their sag coefficient. I think you meant deprecated.
      --
      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  3. Sad :( by TimeForGuinness · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A philosopher who was funny...he will be missed. (lifts glass) Cheers, TFG

  4. We'll see him again by Nursie · · Score: 5, Funny

    He's just gone into the future to the time when the Wyld Stallyns music forms the basis of society.

  5. A great man is lost by thegrassyknowl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    We held a little ceremony here before. Carlin was a truly great man. A voice against censorship and generally against rampant stupidity as well.

    May his memory live long and someone crop up and continue on in his great tradition of telling the 'system' to go fuck itself.

    --
    I drink to make other people interesting!
  6. Best Summary of Religion by copponex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You will be missed, pal.

    "In the Bullshit Department, a businessman can't hold a candle to a clergyman. 'Cause I gotta tell you the truth, folks. When it comes to bullshit, big-time, major league bullshit, you have to stand in awe of the all-time champion of false promises and exaggerated claims: religion. No contest. No contest. Religion. Religion easily has the greatest bullshit story ever told.

    Think about it. Religion has actually convinced people that there's an invisible man -- living in the sky -- who watches everything you do, every minute of every day. And the invisible man has a special list of ten things he does not want you to do. And if you do any of these ten things, he has a special place, full of fire and smoke and burning and torture and anguish, where he will send you to live and suffer and burn and choke and scream and cry forever and ever 'til the end of time!

    But He loves you.

    He loves you, and He needs money! He always needs money! He's all-powerful, all-perfect, all-knowing, and all-wise, somehow just can't handle money! Religion takes in billions of dollars, they pay no taxes, and they always need a little more. Now, you talk about a good bullshit story. Holy Shit!"

    -George Carlin

    1. Re:Best Summary of Religion by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful
      One of the few comedians who stayed completely relevant over the span of many decades. He was also able to reinvent himself on several occasions, and each time very effectively. In the early 60's he was part of a vanilla Lewis and Martin-type comedy team, in the late-60's/early 70's he became a cutting edge counter-culture comic, and in the 80's he became a great comic actor. Truly amazing.

      I was watching him in Dogma just this weekend. That opening with him introducing the "Jesus Wow!" campaign still cracks me up.

      He'll be missed.

      --
      SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  7. Semantics by Darth_brooks · · Score: 4, Interesting

    "Get 'on' the plane, get 'on' the plane..."

    "Fuck you, I'm getting *IN* the plane."

    I started listening to "Class Clown" in 3rd or 4th grade. I always liked his insight, even if he did seem to get quit bitter over the past few years. I always liked his take on growing up in Morningside Heights. He always said that saying you were from a place like Morningside Heights would get you beat up, so he liked to say he was from "White Harlem."

    His routine on "Shell Shock vs. Post Traumatic Stress-Disorder" rings very true.

    --
    There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em.
    1. Re:Semantics by Alzheimers · · Score: 5, Informative

      Good choices, though I was always a fan of the Baseball vs. Football routine.

      And he's right on about Hockey:

      Hockey comes to mind. People think hockey is a sport. It's not. Hockey is three activities taking place at the same time: ice skating, fooling around with a puck, and beating the shit out of somebody.

      RIP man.

    2. Re:Semantics by Praxx · · Score: 4, Funny

      His airplane bit is a classic.

      "I listen very carefully to the safety lecture, especially that part where they teach us how to use the seat belts. Imagine this, here we are, a plane full of grown human beings, many of us partially educated, and they're actually taking time out to describe the intricate workings of a belt buckle."

      "'In the unlikely event of a water landing...', Well, what exactly is a water landing? Am I mistaken, or does this sound somewhat similar to crashing into the ocean?!"

      "Which brings me to terminal - another unfortunate word to be used in association with air travel. And they use it all over the airport, don't they? Somehow I just can't get hungry at a place called the Terminal Snack bar. But, if you've ever eaten there, you know it IS an appropriate name."

      The great thing about Carlin is that it's obvious when he goes overboard for comedy's sake, so his comedy about the obviously overboard is always relevant. Rest in peace, George.

      --
      http://www.policystew.com/
  8. Other words... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Tonight's forecast...........dark, continued mostly dark throughout the evening with widely scattered light in the morning.

    Temperature at the airport is 73......which is stupid 'cause I don't know anyone that lives at the airport..."

    --
    Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    1. Re:Other words... by richg74 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I also liked his comments about writers that always want to put in something about clouds. This is a paraphrase, from memory: "Always they have to talk about clouds ... 'The clouds hung low and gray over the horizon, like huge, loosely-formed gorilla turds.' ... Enough ... skip the clouds and get to the fucking."

  9. Re:Stern by Sooner+Boomer · · Score: 4, Interesting
    "He was a bit cynical in his later years...".

    I thought he was funny 20 years ago when he was topical. In his recent stuff, I just saw him as a bitter old hippy, taking cheap pot shots at the Republican establishment. I saw no humor or insight, just a bunch of cursing, whining, and hypocrisy. The early stuff, the routines that made his reputation, were outstandingly funny.

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    Chaos maximizes locally around me.
  10. God Damnit! by squarefish · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I had to convince my girlfriend a few weeks ago that we should get tickets because he's one person I would really like to see before he, ahmen, dies. So we spent ~$160 for great ticket to see him at the Chicago theater on Oct. 11. I have no more words for this.

    --
    Creationists are a lot like zombies. Slow, but powerful and numerous. And they all want to eat our brains.
    1. Re:God Damnit! by _PimpDaddy7_ · · Score: 4, Funny

      There are two words, as George would tell you...
      "You're fucked"

      RIP George...

    2. Re:God Damnit! by smchris · · Score: 4, Interesting

      At least you got the tickets. I decided at the last minute that 500+ miles round trip was too much for Jimi Hendrix in '69. Ditto when my parents said, "You've been working all summer without a break. Why don't you take the car this weekend and see this Janis Joplin singer?" Can't be that many double losers. Gotta see 'em when they're still here.

  11. In vein of the man himself... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    With nothing but contempt for modern humanity and politics, I highly doubt he'd want anyone to mourn.

    So I'll tell it like it is.
    Today an great man died.
    He was a foul-mouthed rat-bastard hippy conspiracy theorist.
    May his soul be blessed by whoever gives a damn.

  12. Re:Stern by Soporific · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I think when his wife died it really changed him and his routines. I still found him funny, but he came off very angry.

  13. Re:Stern by Verteiron · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I think he discovered he could make just as much money by making fun of government (which, let's be honest here, doesn't take much effort) and rehashing his best bits as he could by writing tons of new material at considerable effort. And I think he was just cynical enough to laugh at that fact, and exploit the hell out of it.

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    End of lesson. You may press the button.
  14. And don't forget his favorite cheer: by badfrog · · Score: 3, Funny

    Rat shit, bat shit, dirty old twat.
    Sixty nine assholes tied in a knot.
    Hooray, lizard shit, fuck!

  15. If I were in charge of the networks by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I'm tired of television announcers, hosts, newscaster, and commentators, nibbling away at the English language, making obvious and ignorant mistakes. If I were in charge of America's broadcast stations and networks, I would gather together all the people whose jobs include speaking to the public, and I would not let them out of the room until they had absorbed the following suggestions. I'm aware that media personalities are not selected on the basis of intelligence. I know that, and I try to make allowances for it. Believe me, I really try. But still ⦠There are some liberties taken with speech that I think require intervention, if only for my own sake. I won't feel right if this chance goes by, and I keep my silence.

    The English word forte, meaning "specialty" or "strong point," is not pronounced "for-tay." Got that? It is pronounced "fort." The Italian word forte, used in music notation, is pronounced "for-tay," and it instructs the musician to play loud: "She plays the skin flute, and her forte [fort] is playing forte [for-tay]." Look it up. And don't give me that whiny shit, "For-tay is listed as the second preference." There's a reason it's second: because it's not first!

    Irony deals with opposites; it has nothing to do with coincidence. If two baseball palyers from the same hometown, on different teams, receive the same uniform number, it is not ironic. It is a coincidence. If Barry Bonds attains lifetime statistics identical to his father's it will not be ironic. It will be a coincidence. Irony is "a state of affairs that is the reverse of what was to be expected; a result opposite to and in mockery of the appropriate result." For instance:

    * If a diabetic, on his way to buy insulin, is killed by a runaway truck, he is the victim of an accident. If the truck was delivering sugar, he is the victim of an oddly poetic coincidence. But if the truck was delivering insulin, ah! Then he is the victim of an irony.

    * If a Kurd, after surviving bloody battle with Saddam Hussein's army and a long, difficult escape through the mountains, is crushed and killed by a parachute drop of humanitarian aid, that, my friend, is irony writ large.

    * Darryl Stingley, the pro football player, was paralyzed after a brutal hit by Jack Tatum. Now Darryl Stingley's son plays football, and if the son should become paralyzed while playing, it will not be ironic. It will be coincidental. If Darryl Stingley's son paralyzes someone else, that will be closer to ironic. If he paralyzes Jack Tatum's son that will be precisely ironic.

    I'm tired of hearing prodigal being used to mean "wandering, given to running away or leaving and returning." The parable in the Book of Luke tells of a son who squanders his father's money. Prodigal means "recklessly wasteful or extravagant." And if you say popular usage has changed that, I say, fuck popular usage!

    The phrase sour grapes does not refer to jealousy or envy. Nor is it related to being a sore loser. It deals with the rationalization of failure to attain a desired end. In the original fable by Aesop, "The Fox and the Grapes," when the fox realizes he cannot leap high enough to reach the grapes, he rationalizes that even if he had gotten them, they would probably have been sour anyway. Rationalization, that's all sour grapes means. It doesn't mean deal with jealousy or sore losing. Yeah, I know you say, "Well many people are using it that way, so the meaning is changing." And I say, "Well many people are really fuckin' stupid too, shall we just adopt all their standards?"

    Strictly speaking, celibate does not mean not having sex, it means not being married. No wedding. The practice of refraining from sex is called chastity or sexual abstinence. No fucking. Priests don't take a vow of celibacy, they take a vow of chastity. Sometimes referred to as the "no-nookie clause."

    And speaking of sex, the Immaculate Conception does not mean Jesus was concieved in the

    1. Re:If I were in charge of the networks by Yewbert · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And exactly why the Mark Twain award is so fitting for George - Twain has long been for me the model for precise usage of language - and Carlin was a modern example.

      I'm sad to see him gnoe - one less funny (and wise) fucker in the world.

    2. Re:If I were in charge of the networks by 0100010001010011 · · Score: 5, Informative

      excerpt from George Carlin's book, Brain Droppings.

    3. Re:If I were in charge of the networks by CrackedButter · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, you didn't cop out on the effort required for this post. As of yet, I've never come across such a very unique post on slashdot such as yours filled with truths and dispelling a few myths all in one submission. It was a healthy read but I read it all and will take it with me for the rest of my life. The proof is in the pudding as to whether other people will take heed of your words as well. Kudo to you my man. Might I suggest you don't watch television either, also don't you find it ironic that you're so well spoken and articulate considering it has been TV that has driven you to post.

    4. Re:If I were in charge of the networks by sm62704 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And if you say popular usage has changed that, I say, fuck popular usage!

      Don we now our gay apparrel
      Tra la la
      Tra la la
      la la la

      "Is deck the Halls about a transvestite, Grandpa?"

      celibate does not mean not having sex

      Only if "hacker" doesn't mean "cyburgler"

      You wouldn't say, "as welcome as a turd in the proverbial punchbowl

      You would if the phrase had become a cliche'.

      proverbial
      3. of the nature of or resembling a proverb: proverbial sayings.
      4. having been made the subject of a proverb: the proverbial barn door which is closed too late.
      5. having become an object of common mention or reference: your proverbial inability to get anywhere on time.

      Momentarily means for a moment, not in a moment.

      momentarily
      1. For a moment or an instant.
      2. In a moment; very soon.
      3. Moment by moment; progressively.

      Healthy does not mean "healthful." Healthy is a condition, healthful is a property. Vegetable aren't healthy, they're dead. No food is healthy. Unlesss you have an eggplant that's doing push-ups. Push-ups are healthful.

      1. possessing or enjoying good health or a sound and vigorous mentality: a healthy body; a healthy mind.
      2. pertaining to or characteristic of good health, or a sound and vigorous mind: a healthy appearance; healthy attitudes.
      3. conducive to good health; healthful: healthy recreations.

      Race, creed, or color is wrong. Race and color, as used in this phrase, describe the same property. And "creed" is a stilted, outmoded way of saying "religion."

      So in other words, it's perfectly literate buit don't say it because religion pisses the bar code guy off?

      Don't you just hate it when you show your ignorance when ranting about other peoples' ignorance? Sorry, but I'll take the dictionary's word over yours any day.

      --
      mcgrew's razor: Never attribute to stupidity that which can be explained by greedy self-interest
    5. Re:If I were in charge of the networks by droptone · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Interestingly, Mark Twain's Letters from the Earth is a funnier rant about religion than Carlin's more recent stuff.

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      Every post I make begins with the assumption P=~P.
    6. Re:If I were in charge of the networks by amRadioHed · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Languages change. It isn't corruption of the language, it's just language doing what is always has and always will do. Be glad for it, if they didn't change we would still be grunting like our ancient cave dwelling ancestors.

      --
      We hope your rules and wisdom choke you / Now we are one in everlasting peace
  16. Re:Stern by elrous0 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The last 8 years have made a lot of us angry. He's hardly alone.

    --
    SJW: Someone who has run out of real oppression, and has to fake it.
  17. Cock-Sucker by pcguru19 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Well fuck. Who's going to call everyone on their bullshit now?

    --
    STFU & GBTW
    1. Re:Cock-Sucker by oahazmatt · · Score: 5, Funny

      Well fuck. Who's going to call everyone on their bullshit now?

      And suddenly, Jon Stewart feels millions of expecting gazes turn towards him, as he mutters unto himself "Oh, fuck."
      --
      Those who believe the Internet is private,
      find their privates are on the Internet.
    2. Re:Cock-Sucker by Bombria · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Penn and Teller

    3. Re:Cock-Sucker by TeamSPAM · · Score: 3, Interesting

      While not in the same league as Carlin or Stewart, I tend to find the spoken word performances of Henry Rollins to be funny and he has a tendency to point out everyone's bullshit.

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  18. AtlasAxe by AtlasAxe · · Score: 2, Funny

    So who gets all his stuff?

    1. Re:AtlasAxe by The+Angry+Mick · · Score: 2, Insightful

      So who gets all his stuff?

      I'd take it, but I'd have to move some of my stuff, or, buy bigger place to put my stuff and his stuff together.

      --

      I'm not tense. I'm just terribly, terribly, alert.

  19. Re:de mortuis nil nisi bonum but ... by 0xdeadbeef · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Carlin's classic material tended to rant about things he hated, with the implication that he - and those who agree with him - are superior.

    Only the insecure feel the need to apologize for other people's inadequacies.

  20. Re:More info for those of us who aren't in the US. by Ogive17 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Here is a cookie.

    --
    "Action without philosophy is a lethal weapon; philosophy without action is worthless."
  21. I wonder if he got his two-minute warning? by wcrowe · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Two minutes... get your shit together..."

    May he rest in peace.

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    Proverbs 21:19
  22. Re:de mortuis nil nisi bonum but ... by dotancohen · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I am prepared to defend the qualitative difference between the rants of Carlin and those of Hicks, but I should stay on topic. What is this, the fucking Debian list? Go on and rant... George would want it that way.
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    It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong.
  23. And for those who don't get the Joe Pesci referenc by oneiros27 · · Score: 5, Informative

    And here's something else, another problem you might have: Suppose your prayers aren't answered. What do you say? "Well, it's God's will." "Thy Will Be Done." Fine, but if it's God's will, and He's going to do what He wants to anyway, why the fuck bother praying in the first place? Seems like a big waste of time to me! Couldn't you just skip the praying part and go right to His Will? It's all very confusing.

    So to get around a lot of this, I decided to worship the sun. But, as I said, I don't pray to the sun. You know who I pray to? Joe Pesci. Two reasons: First of all, I think he's a good actor, okay? To me, that counts. Second, he looks like a guy who can get things done. Joe Pesci doesn't fuck around. In fact, Joe Pesci came through on a couple of things that God was having trouble with.

    For years I asked God to do something about my noisy neighbor with the barking dog, Joe Pesci straightened that cocksucker out with one visit. It's amazing what you can accomplish with a simple baseball bat.

    So I've been praying to Joe for about a year now. And I noticed something. I noticed that all the prayers I used to offer to God, and all the prayers I now offer to Joe Pesci, are being answered at about the same 50% rate. Half the time I get what I want, half the time I don't. Same as God, 50-50. Same as the four-leaf clover and the horseshoe, the wishing well and the rabbit's foot, same as the Mojo Man, same as the Voodoo Lady who tells you your fortune by squeezing the goat's testicles, it's all the same: 50-50. So just pick your superstition, sit back, make a wish, and enjoy yourself.

    --George Carlin

    --
    Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
  24. Farewell, Sir... by Sabathius · · Score: 2, Insightful

    He dedicated his life to making people think and making people laugh. We should always give people like George our respect and a moment of silence after their passing.

    A great light among us has gone out.

  25. Words to live by by InadequateCamel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    He's moved on, departed from the Big Electron. He was a giant and will be missed. I have taken one of his phrases to heart:

    "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that."

    RIP Mr Carlin.

    1. Re:Words to live by by neuromancer23 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that."

      That's actually a quote from Robert Anton Wilson (see: the Secret ov power), borrowed by George Carlin. Not surprising though since the two were friends and Wilson frequently referred to Carlin as his favorite comedian and Carlin referred to Wilson as his favorite author.

  26. Having just seen "George Carlin: Again!" by kannibul · · Score: 2

    George Carlin did not pass away. George Carlin Died.

    Ironic that we had just watched that HBO special two nights ago...

    I loved his word-play and oddball stuff...

    1. Re:Having just seen "George Carlin: Again!" by kannibul · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Funny, I don't recall Carlin's style to involve personal attacks? He objectified things, but never once that I know of, insult anyone directly.

    2. Re:Having just seen "George Carlin: Again!" by bonehead · · Score: 2, Informative

      Um.... I believe the word you're looking for is "coincidental".

  27. Think of the children... by MrKaos · · Score: 3, Interesting
    Fuck the children...

    RIP George, now you really are a fucking legend

    --
    My ism, it's full of beliefs.
  28. As, I think, Mark, George and gods would say ... by OldHawk777 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Greetings my excellent friends!" Rufus

    "George and Sam exceeded my expectations of simple humans." GODDDD

    The 4D GoDDDD will always be greater than the parochial 3D GoDDD, never as shallow as the 2D GoDD, and really the 1D GoD is just a human word/acronym sort of thing meaning Go-Dogma and totally open to local interpretation/spin.

    "Dogma affected never reason effective." Oldhawk777

    Final words: "Party on and be excellent to one another." George

    George was one of the best of US with the "Right Stuff". %~G

    Sanity by mandate is highly over-rated by US.

    --
    Unaccountable leaders are masters, and unrepresented people are slaves. How do US and EU fare?
  29. Maybe he needed to die by mlwmohawk · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Don't get me wrong, I loved Carlin all my life, but one of the things that was pissing him off lately was the fact that people weren't questioning government or religion as much as they used to be, and by all measure, things are getting worse.

    Maybe this shock will wake up some people. Maybe the inevitable memorials will spark a renewal of the rebellious spirit.

    I only hope so.

    As a fellow atheist, I have come to accept that people only live on as the effect they've had on the world. For a relatively brief time in history, the world had a great jester and poet, lets all take time to remember him in or lives.
     

    1. Re:Maybe he needed to die by Rick+Genter · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Or maybe apropos in order to compare what was said about Tim Russet who passed away the week before? A man of faith and integrity who loved his family versus a man who will most likely be known for the "seven dirty words." I bet we hear an incessant amount of bleeping on TV commemorating his achievement.

      I actually think that George Carlin was also a man of faith and integrity who loved his family.

      I also think that Tim Russert probably enjoyed George Carlin's humor. Russert came across as a fairly intelligent, well-rounded individual. Carlin's humor was all about getting people to think. I think Russert appreciated anyone who made him think.

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      Don't underestimate the power of The Source
  30. Lighten up Francis... by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
    "Yes, we would hate for anyone to interrupt the next few hours of Christian bashing."

    Keep it funny... here's another random quote: "If lawyers are disbarred and clergymen defrocked, doesn't it follow that electricians can be delighted, musicians denoted?"

    --George Carlin

    --
    Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    1. Re:Lighten up Francis... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      And a prostitute can be delayed.

  31. Re:de mortuis nil nisi bonum but ... by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 3, Funny

    "Only the insecure feel the need to apologize for other people's inadequacies."
    I would like to apologize for the highly anal retentive nature of 0xdeadbeef's post. He wasn't breast fed as a child :-(
    --
    Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
  32. man what a bummer by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Funny

    I'm a modern man, A man for the millennium, Digital and smoke free.

    A diversified multicultural postmodern deconstructionist, Politically anatomically and ecologically incorrect.

    I've been uplinked and downloaded. I've been inputted and outsourced. I know the upside of downsizing. I know the downside of upgrading.

    I'm a high tech lowlife. A cutting edge state-of-the-art bicoastal multitasker, And I can give you a gigabyte in a nanosecond.

    I'm new wave but I'm old school, And my inner child is outward bound.

    I'm a hot wired heat seeking warm hearted cool customer, Voice activated and biodegradable.

    I interface from a database, And my database is in cyberspace, So I'm interactive, I'm hyperactive, And from time-to-time, I'm radioactive.

    Behind the eight ball, Ahead of the curve, Riding the wave, Dodging a bullet, Pushing the envelope.

    I'm on point, On task, On message, And off drugs. I got no need for coke and speed, I got no urge to binge and purge.

    I'm in the moment, On the edge, Over the top, But under the radar.

    A high concept, Low profile, Medium range ballistic missionary. A street-wise smart bomb. A top gun bottom feeder.

    I wear power ties, I tell power lies, I take power naps, I run victory laps.

    I'm a totally ongoing bigfoot slam dunk rainmaker with a proactive outreach. A raging workaholic. A working ragaholic. Out of rehab, And in denial.

    I got a personal trainer, A personal shopper, A personal assistant, And a personal agenda.

    You can't shut me up, You can't dumb me down. 'Cause I'm tireless, And I'm wireless. I'm an alpha male on beta blockers.

    I'm a non-believer and an over-achiever. Laid back but fashion forward.

    Up front, Down home, Low rent, High maintenance.

    Super size, Long lasting, High definition, Fast acting, Oven ready, And built to last.

    I'm a hands on, Foot loose, Knee jerk, Head case.

    Prematurely post traumatic, And I have a love child who sends me hate mail.

    But I'm feeling, I'm caring, I'm healing, I'm sharing. A supportive bonding nurturing primary care giver.

    My output is down, But my income is up. I take a short position on the long bond, And my revenue stream has its own cash flow.

    I read junk mail, I eat junk food, I buy junk bonds, I watch trash sports.

    I'm gender specific, Capital intensive, User friendly, And lactose intolerant.

    I like rough sex. I like rough sex. I like tough love. I use the f word in my email, And the software on my hard drive is hard core, no soft porn.

    I bought a microwave at a mini mall. I bought a mini van in a mega store. I eat fast food in the slow lane.

    I'm toll free, Bite sized, Ready to wear, And I come in all sizes.

    A fully equipped, Factory authorized, Hospital tested, Clinically proven, Scientifically formulated medical miracle.

    I've been pre-washed, Pre-cooked, Pre-heated, Pre-screened, Pre-approved, Pre-packaged, Post-dated, Freeze-dried, Double-wrapped, Vacuum-packed, And I have an unlimited broadband capacity.

    I'm a rude dude, But I'm the real deal. Lean and mean. Cocked, locked and ready to rock. Rough tough and hard to bluff.

    I take it slow. I go with the flow. I ride with the tide. I got glide in my stride.

    Drivin' and movin', Sailin' and spinnin', Jivin' and groovin', Wailin' and winnin'.

    I don't snooze, So I don't lose. I keep the pedal to the metal, And the rubber on the road.

    I party hearty, And lunch time is crunch time.

    I'm hanging in, There ain't no doubt. And I'm hanging tough, Over and out.

    -George Carlin, Life Is Worth Losing, Beacon Theater, HBO

    --
    intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
  33. Re:Stern by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The constant litany of lies about America and the war on terror from the Left has certainly made ME and my friends as angry as we've ever been

    You and your buddies are the 25% who are stupid enough to still believe in the Bush Administration. My guess is that you're the kind of person who think never changing one's opinion is somehow a virtue. Good luck with that, fool

  34. And now for something completely different... by cayenne8 · · Score: 5, Funny
    ...back to Carlin Quotes (one of my favorite):

    "But I do mean that. I mean, I think the word fuck is an important word. It's the beginning of life, and, yet it's a word we use to hurt one other, quite often. And uh, people much wiser than I have said, I'd rather have my son watch a film with two people making love than two people trying to kill one other. And I of course agree. I wish I know who said it first, and I agree with that. But I would like to take it a step further. I would like to substitute the word fuck, for the word kill in all those movie cliches we grew up with.

    'Okay Sheriff, we're gonna fuck ya now. But we're gonna fuck ya slow.'

    --
    Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
    1. Re:And now for something completely different... by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 5, Funny

      Go fuck yourself asshole. And I mean that in as nice of way as possible!

      --
      "But this one goes to 11!"
    2. Re:And now for something completely different... by gclef · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or maybe we just like playing with language.

      For example:

      tits.
      tits tits.
      tits tits tits tits.
      titstitstitstitstitstitstitstitstitstits

      It's such a wonderful word, isn't it? It's not a bad word...It sounds more like a snack. (yeah, yeah, I know...it is!)

      (PS: Thank you George for making me giggle during one of my early make-out sessions....the above bit came into my head & totally ruined the moment.)
    3. Re:And now for something completely different... by Zakabog · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Swear words are the equivalent to howling in pain or rage. They're degenerate, and they evoke emotional reactions in other people, causing those other peoples thoughts to also degenerate into mindless, primitive emotional reactions, overriding their capacity to reason things through and act effectively.

      I hope you're not serious. You realize the word "fuck" is as much a word as is the word "existentialism."

      If I was visiting a tribe in Africa where no one spoke English and I went up to the chief with a basket of various gifts, and offered this basket to the chief while smiling and saying in a calm polite voice "I hope you fucking choke on a bucket of cum you worthless pile of shit" the chief would not take offense. He wouldn't know what I said and would only be able to guess that it was something nice, since I said it with a smile, in a calm polite voice, while offering a basket of gifts.

      Now, if I went up to the same chief, screaming to the point where my face was red "Hello Sir! I hope you live a long and prosperous life!" He would take great offense to that, he would think I was angry with him.

      Swear words are just words, they aren't magical, they don't bring down society. If a 5 year old boy never heard the word "fuck" before, hearing it isn't going to turn him into a mindless degenerate. He's only going to know the meaning of the word based on who said it, the context, and how they said it.

    4. Re:And now for something completely different... by Thaelon · · Score: 5, Funny

      Good sir, I'd like to interrupt you if I may? I think it would be in the best interest of several parties if you would cease this particular discourse on the subject at hand. Specifically, it would be in the best interests of myself, yourself, and the general slashdot reading populace if you were to cease and desist your discussion of this matter. The reason I suggest this, kind sir, is that there are valid emotional reasons for using "swear words" as you call them. Further, it can be argued - nay, has been argued - that the only people who are harmed - that is to say, offended by - swear words are people who have chosen to take offense at such things. As such, the burden for negating the harm resulting from "swear words" lies solely with those offended and not with the perpetrators of said offenses. Furthermore, the concision with which the person swearing can convey their point through swearing is considerably increased over that of more intellectual discourse. For example, if you were to drop a hammer on your toe. Would you stop, think about it rationally and attempt to compose a proper message to convey your pain, frustration or anger? Or would you swear, get it over with, and resume your work? Ponder these points for a few moments, I implore you...

      Translation: Shut the fuck up, asshole.

      --

      Question everything

    5. Re:And now for something completely different... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The fact that curse words evoke primitive emotional responses in people is exactly why they're so important and powerful. Like it or not, people are primitive emotional beings, and appealing to that side is often, no, usually the best way to communicate with them.

      Sure, you can try communicating calmly and rationally with people, if you like getting ignored. But if you want results, you've got to hit them in the old lizard brain.

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      Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
    6. Re:And now for something completely different... by FatdogHaiku · · Score: 3, Funny

      Profanity is the last recourse of desperately inarticulate motherfuckers...

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      You have the right to remain sentient. If you give up the right to remain sentient, you will be elected to public office
    7. Re:And now for something completely different... by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 3, Funny

      The difference between uttering a curse word and assaulting someone and threatening them with death?

      Yeah, I just don't see it either. -_-

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      Out of modpoints but really liked a post? 1BDkF6TtmmeZ3yqXbz9yhdYVqRYnwFoXDj
    8. Re:And now for something completely different... by Hatta · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You don't see the difference between mere words and physical violence?

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      Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
    9. Re:And now for something completely different... by Zakabog · · Score: 3, Informative

      Sure, you can try communicating calmly and rationally with people, if you like getting ignored. But if you want results, knock them to the ground, step on their neck, put a gun to their head, and force them to listen.

      What's the difference?


      The difference is that the later is a far more effective method of getting people to do what you want. Although I wouldn't compare swearing to physical violence. I don't even agree with the statement that you have to swear to get someone's attention.

      I'd also like to point out that YOU get offended when someone swears because YOU choose to get offended by the word. If I had just finished a dinner you prepared and I said "Holy shit that was good!" and you were offended, that was your choice to get offended. What's the difference between "Holy shit that was good" and "Wow that was good"? They both carry the same meaning, yet you feel one of them is wrong because there's a swear word in it?

      Maybe this quote might help you understand

      There are 400,000 words in the English language, and there are 7 you can't say on television. What a ratio that is! 399,993...to 7. They must really be baaaad. They must be OUTRAGEOUS to be separated from a group that large. "All of you words over here, you seven....baaaad words". That's what they told us, right? "That's a bad word!!" Awwww. No bad words. Bad thoughts. Bad intentions, and wooooords.

      George Carlin

    10. Re:And now for something completely different... by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Of course it was.

      Last time someone tried to physically dominate me, I saw them clearly, I rejected them clearly, I got my face broken, I broke their nose and their arm and their ribs, and I went to the hospital happy.

      When I'm confronted with manipulators, and I watch helplessly as they twist words and turn my fellow men into blind idiots, it ruins my whole day and causes me to get into stupid arguments with my girlfriend.

      I value integrity far more than safety, any day of the week.

      --
      -1 Uncomfortable Truth
    11. Re:And now for something completely different... by Hatta · · Score: 4, Funny

      Last time someone tried to physically dominate me, I saw them clearly, I rejected them clearly, I got my face broken, I broke their nose and their arm and their ribs, and I went to the hospital happy.

      Clearly that's much better than seeing the letters 'F', 'U', 'C', and 'K' appear on a screen.

      When I'm confronted with manipulators, and I watch helplessly as they twist words and turn my fellow men into blind idiots, it ruins my whole day and causes me to get into stupid arguments with my girlfriend.

      Maybe you should hit her.

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      Give me Classic Slashdot or give me death!
    12. Re:And now for something completely different... by hey! · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Well, your point is that how people react to words depends on how they are said. It's also true that what a word means depends on how you say it. Some ways of using a word don't require assigning any meaning to it.

      The German language has words like "doch" or "mal" which play a kind of grammatical function but don't mean anything specific. The word "fuck" is used by many people in English much the same way. Using "fuck" is not, objectively, any morally less worthy than "doch". It's just that using "fuck" as a kind of rhythmic grammatical filler is not an educated style of speech, whereas those peculiar German words are part of the mainstream dialect. Because it is an uneducated style of speech, "fuck" filled language is often found traveling in the company with stupid, mindless, and ignorant speech. Still, it is neither here nor there in itself.

      Things get interesting when "fuck" is used as a curse. "Bad" language is called "cursing", but it almost never is cursing. "Fuck you" is the rare example of an actual curse. Its emotionally powerful because the sexual connotations of the word give the curse humiliating overtones. "Suck" is sometimes used in "you suck" the same way.

      "Fuck" as a word can only be called automatically offensive if you define "offensiveness" so vaguely it amounts to "anything that bothers me." Some people do think this way. But for me, it's the placing of mindless humiliation on another person that's offensive. Not all uses of the word "fuck" amount to this; not even all uses of the word in a curse do. The use of language to degrade another human being could be the very definition of offensiveness.

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    13. Re:And now for something completely different... by tyrione · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, your point is that how people react to words depends on how they are said. It's also true that what a word means depends on how you say it. Some ways of using a word don't require assigning any meaning to it.

      The German language has words like "doch" or "mal" which play a kind of grammatical function but don't mean anything specific. The word "fuck" is used by many people in English much the same way. Using "fuck" is not, objectively, any morally less worthy than "doch". It's just that using "fuck" as a kind of rhythmic grammatical filler is not an educated style of speech, whereas those peculiar German words are part of the mainstream dialect. Because it is an uneducated style of speech, "fuck" filled language is often found traveling in the company with stupid, mindless, and ignorant speech. Still, it is neither here nor there in itself.

      Things get interesting when "fuck" is used as a curse. "Bad" language is called "cursing", but it almost never is cursing. "Fuck you" is the rare example of an actual curse. Its emotionally powerful because the sexual connotations of the word give the curse humiliating overtones. "Suck" is sometimes used in "you suck" the same way.

      "Fuck" as a word can only be called automatically offensive if you define "offensiveness" so vaguely it amounts to "anything that bothers me." Some people do think this way. But for me, it's the placing of mindless humiliation on another person that's offensive. Not all uses of the word "fuck" amount to this; not even all uses of the word in a curse do. The use of language to degrade another human being could be the very definition of offensiveness.

      Never mind the fact that a notion of a curse has been lost on the masses, including the self-proclaimed elitists who see it as dirty instead of being an actual hex on one's own Self.

    14. Re:And now for something completely different... by LithiumX · · Score: 3, Insightful
      Words represent concepts - a class of object or person, a specific reference, an action, or a modification to any of these. Words are symbolic references to more complex ideas.

      The more extensive your vocabulary, the better you can fine-tune communication. Words are tools. A simple screwdriver is good for most jobs, but you often find yourself using different screwdrivers for different tasks. Sometimes you want a jewelers screwdriver to work on your glasses. Other times you want a large flathead with a strong grip so you can apply torque. A band saw is just as much a tool as a drill, and serves very different purposes - it all depends on your need.

      Sometimes, though, the job can only be done with a good solid sledgehammer.

      Swear words are effectively sledgehammers.

      For example, it is often required that you express distaste or anger - they're everyday emotions that you can't hide from, and they often need to be declared. You have a wide variety of words to use. Simple direct "base" words, like "Angry" or "Mad" get the basic point across but are far too generic to have any real meaning beyond the basic concept. Being basic words, though, they have more emotional impact. There are better words in the core vocabulary, such as "Furious" or "Irritated" - these allow finer grades of meaning, but trade this for a bit of power. As you go up the ladder, you can achieve more and more precise meanings, such as "irascible", "choleric", or "perturbed". In civil communications, these can describe your feelings to a great level of precision. They also lose almost all of their emotional power.

      Say you've done something to anger me, in a situation where it's appropriate for me to express that anger. Not only that, but you're threatening me - in many circumstances counter-intimidation is the only intelligent response (since an appeal will often simply fail, and a first-strike is usually not acceptable).

      There are three basic routes you could follow.

      Do as many well-educated verbose geeks will do, and respond with a well-spoken and wordy response that applies logic and fine shades of meaning to each and every word. In an emotional situation, this is generally useless and shows intelligence but very little understanding of real-world social interaction.

      You can apply your vocabulary, abstaining from actual cursing, but choosing your words for effect. Phrases like "choking on your own blood" or "cripple you for life" keep the wording short and simple, and don't require degrading language. The problem is it's very difficult for most intelligent people to intimidate intelligently without being overtly threatening yourself. This is usually the best course, but it's also the most risky.

      Alternately, a simple "Fuck you", or "back off asshole" will usually work much better. While cussing can fan the flames, once the individuals are already angry then a little cussing really doesn't add much to it. Quite the opposite - degenerating into schoolhouse taunts does a very good job of releasing tension (which is almost always what most fights are about) without actually hitting eachother.

      Vocalization is a mammal concept (at least the way we use it). Speech is a purely human concept. Cussing, though, is most definitely a primate concept - chimps taught sign language invent their own forms very quickly. When you cuss, you tap into primal emotions, for better or for worse. Almost every association you have for any swear word is animal in nature.

      That's why swearing is unacceptable. It has nothing to do with polite society, or problem resolution. It's for the same reason why nakedness offends (because a naked human body loses it's veneer of civilization - naked humans look like any other animal). For the same reason why many cultures dislike extensive facial hair or long scalp hair (it's a reminder that we're still just animals). It's why virtually all of our basic laws - both religious and civil - primarily focus on covering up for t

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      Do not confuse "Freedom of Choice" with "Free Will".
    15. Re:And now for something completely different... by Potor · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You're splitting hairs, so let me make another distinction, one which I think is more accurate.

      I agree that fuck can never be a curse per se, but that's because of a category mistake. A curse is a kind of discourse, and fuck is just a word. But as a word, it contains the connotations you point out. Thus, it remains a curse word.

      So fuck is not a curse simpliciter, but certainly a curse word.

      My point is that you can't make the word as innocent as "doch" (I don't know about you, but I know German), and keep it at the level of a grammatical particle, or mere formless sound. Convention does in fact dictate that this word is taboo, or used to break taboos. To argue otherwise to change reality, not to describe it.

      Of course, I remain open to the possibility that reality can and does change, and that the word may lose its taboo, but only when enough speakers think like you do. But that change will probably not come from native speakers. I have lived in non-English-speaking countries most of my adult life, and work with Dutch-speaking kids in my free time. They drop f-bombs everywhere, at school, at home, in front of me - for them, the word simply does not have that same force abroad. But it will take a long time before that affects us native-speakers (among whom I assume but don't know you number).

  35. Re:Bye Bye Mr. Conductor! by BrianCarlstrom · · Score: 2, Informative

    He was the second conductor, after Ringo Starr: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Conductor#Mr._Conductor_II

  36. Re:The unfortunate corollary... by LordKaT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What fucking world do you live in that you don't have an alternative?

  37. Re:Stern by Deslock · · Score: 2, Insightful

    "He was a bit cynical in his later years...".

     


    I thought he was funny 20 years ago when he was topical. In his recent stuff, I just saw him as a bitter old hippy, taking cheap pot shots at the Republican establishment. I saw no humor or insight, just a bunch of cursing, whining, and hypocrisy. The early stuff, the routines that made his reputation, were outstandingly funny.

    Nonsense. His politics have been part of his routine for over 20 years: back in the 80s, he was criticizing "Ronald Reagan and his criminal gang" (as he put it). Agree with his ideology or not, he's always been topical.

    But yes, he became cankier as he aged. IMO it suited him.

  38. Bad news to wake up to. by FunWithKnives · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This would be shitty news to wake up to any day, but it's even worse on your birthday.

    Along with Bill Hicks, George Carlin was my absolute favorite comedian. What they did was much more than just comedy, though. The reason I loved George so much, just as with Bill, was because, in the process of making you laugh so hard, they also made you think. George had the ability to make you see how ridiculous certain things really were, even if you didn't want to.

    So long, George. You're irreplaceable.

    --
    "We may face a scorched and lifeless earth, but they're accountable to their shareholders first."
  39. He's in heaven now. by DragonTHC · · Score: 3, Funny

    Bwahahahahaha.

    Thanks George for all the laughs.

    make sure to ask Jesus for the big porkchop.

    --
    They're using their grammar skills there.
  40. ... and also one of the funniest men ever. by mikey-tx-dal · · Score: 2, Interesting

    > ... and also one of the funniest men ever.

    Not in the last 20 years he wasn't - just an angry old misanthrope.

    I used to play his (cleaner) bits on-air at the college radio station I worked at in the late 70's - usually right before off-air time at midnight.

    Frankly, I miss that guy, not the one who just died.

    Ex-KNTU-FM

  41. To those who say "grumpy old man"... by TJamieson · · Score: 2, Insightful

    ...and enjoyed his past material should look at themselves. Maybe you've become the very thing George satirizes?

    --
    For the last time, PIN Number and ATM Machine are redundancies!
  42. Are we sure he's dead? by jollyreaper · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm not claiming to have an insight line on the mind of George Carlin but it seems like he'd be the kind of person to announce his death a little early, just so he can stick around for all that follows. And if he didn't do this, he really should have. Nothing would be funnier than seeing his response to comments like "he must be up there now smiling down on us." "What the hell? Who the fuck are you to promote me to your vision of an afterlife just because I made you laugh? Let me tell you something, asshole: when I really do snuff it, if I find out I've got wings and a halo because you liked my seven dirty words routine, I'm coming back and cramming my harp right up your ass."

    --
    Kwisatz Haderach
    Sell the spice to CHOAM
    This Mahdi took Shaddam's Throne
  43. In the Carlin spirit.. by k1e0x · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Carlin always wanted us to look differently at life, so in the Carlin spirit..

    "Today was the best day of George Carlin's life... he died."

    --
    Bringing liberty to the masses. - http://freetalklive.com/
  44. 71 - he must have died happy by rcw-work · · Score: 5, Funny

    "69 with two fingers up your ass"

  45. LEt's send him off with a cheer!! by cayenne8 · · Score: 2, Funny
    Rat shit

    Bat shit

    Dirty old twat

    69 assholes tied in a knot...

    Hurray!!!! Lizard shit......FUCK Now, I know you people like to memorize these things so....

    --George Carlin

    --
    Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
  46. Enough on anti-profanity, more George C. by cayenne8 · · Score: 4, Funny
    "I'm a modern man, a man for the millennium. Digital and smoke free. A diversified multi-cultural, post-modern deconstruction that is anatomically and ecologically incorrect. I've been up linked and downloaded, I've been inputted and outsourced, I know the upside of downsizing, I know the downside of upgrading. I'm a high-tech low-life. A cutting edge, state-of-the-art bi-coastal multi-tasker and I can give you a gigabyte in a nanosecond!

    I'm new wave, but I'm old school and my inner child is outward bound. I'm a hot-wired, heat seeking, warm-hearted cool customer, voice activated and bio-degradable. I interface with my database, my database is in cyberspace, so I'm interactive, I'm hyperactive and from time to time I'm radioactive.

    Behind the eight ball, ahead of the curve, ridin the wave, dodgin the bullet and pushin the envelope. I'm on-point, on-task, on-message and off drugs. I've got no need for coke and speed. I've got no urge to binge and purge. I'm in-the-moment, on-the-edge, over-the-top and under-the-radar. A high-concept, low-profile, medium-range ballistic missionary. A street-wise smart bomb. A top-gun bottom feeder. I wear power ties, I tell power lies, I take power naps and run victory laps. I'm a totally ongoing big-foot, slam-dunk, rainmaker with a pro-active outreach. A raging workaholic. A working rageaholic. Out of rehab and in denial!

    I've got a personal trainer, a personal shopper, a personal assistant and a personal agenda. You can't shut me up. You can't dumb me down because I'm tireless and I'm wireless, I'm an alpha male on beta-blockers.

    I'm a non-believer and an over-achiever, laid-back but fashion-forward. Up-front, down-home, low-rent, high-maintenance. Super-sized, long-lasting, high-definition, fast-acting, oven-ready and built-to-last! I'm a hands-on, foot-loose, knee-jerk head case pretty maturely post-traumatic and I've got a love-child that sends me hate mail.

    But, I'm feeling, I'm caring, I'm healing, I'm sharing-- a supportive, bonding, nurturing primary care-giver. My output is down, but my income is up. I took a short position on the long bond and my revenue stream has its own cash-flow. I read junk mail, I eat junk food, I buy junk bonds and I watch trash sports! I'm gender specific, capital intensive, user-friendly and lactose intolerant.

    I like rough sex. I like tough love. I use the "F" word in my emails and the software on my hard-drive is hardcore--no soft porn.

    I bought a microwave at a mini-mall; I bought a mini-van at a mega-store. I eat fast-food in the slow lane. I'm toll-free, bite-sized, ready-to-wear and I come in all sizes. A fully-equipped, factory-authorized, hospital-tested, clinically-proven, scientifically- formulated medical miracle. I've been pre-wash, pre-cooked, pre-heated, pre-screened, pre-approved, pre-packaged, post-dated, freeze-dried, double-wrapped, vacuum-packed and, I have an unlimited broadband capacity.

    I'm a rude dude, but I'm the real deal. Lean and mean! Cocked, locked and ready-to-rock. Rough, tough and hard to bluff. I take it slow, I go with the flow, I ride with the tide. I've got glide in my stride. Drivin and movin, sailin and spinin, jiving and groovin, wailin and winnin. I don't snooze, so I don't lose. I keep the pedal to the metal and the rubber on the road. I party hearty and lunch time is crunch time. I'm hangin in, there ain't no doubt and I'm hangin tough, over and out!"

    --George Carlin

    And now...he's gone.

    :-(

    --
    Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.........
  47. xrz138 by xrz1138 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I just want to be there when they blow up his body. That was how he wanted to go: gather all his friends and just blow him up. "Look at him go!" "What a guy" This is what the man said. ...but he may have been joking. -- Realisant mon espoir, je me lance vers la gloire

  48. Re:Love, Freedom, Peace by ShieldW0lf · · Score: 2, Funny

    My approach to solving this problem would be to create an engineered language which is devoid of emotive terminology and multiple interpretations. Think 1984.

    After this language existed, I would make it mandatory for all citizens to be educated in it, in the same way we currently mandate that citizens must learn math.

    Then, I would isolate certain sectors of mass communication that must communicate using only this language. Such things as laws, advertising, political speech. For example, it should be impossible for a marketing person to use this language to make you buy a lemon because they convinced you it was "Sexy", or for a politician to make you vote for a bill you don't understand because it makes you "Patriotic".

    I wouldn't make any efforts to squash other languages out of existence, but rather have them exist in parallel to the engineered language, leaving ample means for people to communicate with each other in an artistic and evocative fashion through appropriate channels.

    After this was concluded, it would still be possible for individuals to break the rules given sufficient justification, but people would not have to wander the world constantly bombarded with propaganda in a systematic fashion the way they do now as though it was no big deal.

    I could expand on this for hours on end, dealing with edge cases till the cows come home, but that's the general idea.

    --
    -1 Uncomfortable Truth