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How Do You Manage Your SD Card Library?

txmadman writes "Like a lot of my colleagues and all of my three children, I have several SD , mini-SD, and micro-SD cards for various purposes: cameras, cell phones, my laptop, etc. These things are handy to have around, offer easy and significant storage, but are very easily lost. We have also have run into some instances where it wasn't clear whose SD card was whose, and have also started to see a need for a storage mechanism. I have seen SD card 'wallets' and such, but have never seen anyone actually use one. So: How do you manage and keep track of your SD cards?"

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  1. Labels by FluffyWithTeeth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Put labels on them and keep them in a credit card pocket of your wallet.

    This is seriously not a difficult enough problem to warrant a /. story..

    1. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed.

    2. Re:Labels by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 1

      My Uncle is a photographer, and has literally hundreds of memory cards (not to mention rolls of film for "classic" shoots - those can be absolute murder to keep track of, 'cause they're so freaking sensitive to light!).

      Trust me, it can easily become a huge problem if you haven't thought through a laser-targeted organizational system.

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    3. Re:Labels by UncleTogie · · Score: 1

      My Uncle is a photographer, and has literally hundreds of memory cards...

      Silly question: Does he buy a new card for every shoot? What's his take on data archival as opposed to a huge cash/space/orginization cost on all those cards?

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    4. Re:Labels by rm999 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Having 100s of memory cards around makes about as much sense as having 100s of rolls of used, unlabeled film laying around. Even if your uncle is taking 20 megapixel RAW pictures, he can fit 800 pictures on eight 2-gig cards. In this extreme example, he shouldn't need more than eight cards if he takes 800 pictures a shoot, because the first thing he should do when his shoot is over is empty the pictures onto a hard drive with an automatic backup, then format the cards.

      If you are having trouble organizing your memory cards, you can probably simplify some other aspect of your life to fix the problem.

    5. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      considering the price of a SD card being around 6 euros for 4gb's at most big electronic stores...

      and it's flash so won't break like a harddrive :)

    6. Re:Labels by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 5, Interesting

      He needs to have a number of cards at his immediate use at all times. Large high-resolution raw-format images are big no matter how you spin it, and the prospect of loosing an expensive card (well, probably less expensive now, but rewind five years and let the horror set in) isn't good.

      When you're at a shoot, "oops, I somehow managed to grab ten cards, five of which were full" is inexcusable.

      He organizes it by keeping track, putting things in consistent places, eg. full cards in need of download to the computer go in one place, cards that have been downloaded to the computer can be put in another place.

      Simple habits can fix most problems of organization.

      He needs so many cards because sometimes he doesn't have time to process photos between shoots, and there isn't always time to stop by the store to buy more, either.

      And yes, he archives all data to hard disks and what not. Keeping it on flimsy cards that can easily get deleted by a camera's "clear card" function is a horrifying way to loose your customer's data.

      While not always avoidable, try to keep critical data off cards. We've all seen photos of cell phones with address books in toilets or the fabled $2,000 latte. Do you really want to be the next /. headline "I lost my SD card in the wash and there was data on it I didn't have replicated - can you suggest any good recovery techniques, or am I basically screwed?"

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    7. Re:Labels by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 4, Interesting

      One of his largest client bases are public schools which pay to have pictures taken of all the kids for the student ID cards.

      For some of the larger schools, you're looking at 2,000 kids, and you want a minimum of four to six good photos of each kid. 2,000 times 4 is 8,000 photos.

      Granted, he brings computers and other equipment on those shoots and sets them up on-site (with cool card-printing machines and stuff) but the point is that if he's far away from his studio, he can't go running back to get more cards, and stores don't reliably have cards in stock. The best way is to have many of them on hand. If you're away from studio, you may shoot many different events before going back to process the images, filter out the bad shots, touch up the color (he's a color freak - subtle things that I can't even begin to pick up bug the snot out of him) and do other things.

      If he's out of state (not uncommon) the dangers of being caught unprepared where your professional reputation is on the line are catastrophic. And how does he manage all these little cards?

      Simple habits that scale from managing a house of 10 flash cards to photo studios with hundreds.

      So grab your family, their memory cards, and a sharpie, and establish a system and good habits of keeping track of your things. Nothing is cheaper, and nothing is more effective.

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    8. Re:Labels by aywwts4 · · Score: 1

      When I work on a client's data I keep everything related to it safe and separated until the job is 100% complete.

      Then if my raid array makes a dupe of corrupted files, my hard drives fail, my computer explodes, and my backups degauss I always have the baseline originals, which could potentially be worth thousands and thousands of dollars. When something is worth 4 dollars, there is no way to justify adding an additional risk, no matter how small.

       

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    9. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Agreed, not a difficult problem. I store all information in my head. I got jiga-googolbytes up there. Instant, direct access, extreme low power. Get on board.

    10. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Ok, so he needs a few cards because he isn't always at the computer. How does that equate to "hundreds"?

      Anyone who *really*needs raw mode on the camera can buy one of those nice portable things you stick the CF card into and it gets copied to the hard drive automatically.

      Then you only need one or two cards and the hard drive device.

      Alternatively, he can have a bottle labeled "empty" and a bottle labeled "full". This isn't that hard to need a special story. I happen to have a lot of MicroSD cards, but that's because they are super cheap, and it's much cheaper to buy 4 2gig cards than 1 8gig card.

    11. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hundreds of cards???
      Now, that looks seriously hard to manage!

      To me it sounds your uncle had better invested in a laptop or storage tank. As soon as one card is full, put it into the laptop or storage tank, start copying and continue shooting.

      What's the point of having to grab a handful of cards and only HOPE some are empty?
      Perhaps your uncle is still looking at those cards as films, but that's in my not so humble opinion completely wrong.

      And I have the feeling you are also looking at it from the wrong angle.

      and the prospect of loosing an expensive card (well, probably less expensive now, but rewind five years and let the horror set in) isn't good.

      When you're at a shoot, "oops, I somehow managed to grab ten cards, five of which were full" is inexcusable.

      The more cards you have, the bigger the risk you lose one. Ideally you would only need two cards and a laptop or storage tank.

    12. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "When something is worth 4 dollars..."

      Why do I get the feeling I missed something here?

    13. Re:Labels by johnjaydk · · Score: 2, Informative

      For some of the larger schools, you're looking at 2,000 kids, and you want a minimum of four to six good photos of each kid. 2,000 times 4 is 8,000 photos.

      The only way to handle that amount of pictures is to shoot tethered. That is, directly into an attached computer. Most pro-bodies can do this and You can get wireless kits (wifi) to get rid of the cable.

      Happy shooting

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    14. Re:Labels by icebike · · Score: 4, Funny

      And we all know student photos need the highest possible resolution so they can all look back fondly at the sheer variety and size of each and every zit, whitehead, and pimple.

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    15. Re:Labels by hairyfeet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Actually I have a customer who does those jobs, and you do actually need them to be in high res. Why? Because it makes it easier for him to photoshop out all those zits, whiteheads, scars, etc. And from talking to him he has gotten a lot of business on the side from parents who look at the nice school photos and who are happy to pay the cash to have nice photos of their kid without giant blemishes.

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    16. Re:Labels by dotancohen · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You can't put labels on the cards because then they bind in the devices. But you can write on them with a black marker.

      SD cards support a physical name for their top level directories. Give them each a name in a series (For instance: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, ...) and make a text file listing which card belongs to what. This doesn't only have to work for SD cards, we do this for our USB flash media as well.

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    17. Re:Labels by YourExperiment · · Score: 1

      he can fit 800 pictures on eight 2-gig cards

      Er, what's wrong with one 16GB card?

    18. Re:Labels by theheadlessrabbit · · Score: 5, Insightful

      no, you would need at least 16 cards, but likely more. much more.

      800 shots per job is not an overestimate, it is actually a very reasonable number.

      I use one set of cards for each particular job. each set of cards is numbered and lettered. (1a, 1b, 1c, 1d, 2a, 2b, 2c ...etc.)
      for one job, i use my '1x' set, while the next job, i use my '2x' set.

      use a sharpie, never pencil, to label your cards. different colours can help, too.

      I copy the images to a properly named folder on a hard drive at the end of the night, and put those memory cards into a clearly labeled box. (I use an Altoids tin with some padding material thrown in)
      at the start of the next day, I insert the next set of cards into my camera bag for the next job.

      you ONLY format those cards and re-use them after the job is complete. before then, a minimum of 2 copies of the data must be kept. even after the job is complete, i keep the data on the cards until i need to format them for another job.

      A professional has no excuse for lost data. but even at the amateur level, you don't want to lose your data. those photos could become treasured memories for generations to come.

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    19. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      and the prospect of loosing an expensive card

      Fuck. I'm stopping reading the comments on this story right here. I'm feeling all queasy, might loose my breakfast.

      eg. full cards in need of download to the computer go in one place, cards that have been downloaded to the computer can be put in another place.

      I think I'm going to download that breakfast to the toilet. No wait, thats called puking, right? I think copying data from a card to a computer is called.. copying data. Come on, lets not be too trendy, this is News for Nerds after all.

    20. Re:Labels by WillKemp · · Score: 2, Interesting

      ...and it's flash, so you can't rely on it like a hard drive!

    21. Re:Labels by duguk · · Score: 1

      he can fit 800 pictures on eight 2-gig cards

      Er, what's wrong with one 16GB card?

      Not all cameras support SDHC?

    22. Re:Labels by Blublu · · Score: 1

      Downloading is a perfectly valid word in this case.

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    23. Re:Labels by Llanfairpwllgwyngyll · · Score: 1

      Don't label them.

      Archive the content onto your home SANs or equivalent.

      Ta-da! They're now empty, so it matters not a jot to whom each "belongs".

      > This is seriously not a difficult enough problem to warrant a /. story..

      Oh, SO true!

    24. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then don't use SD cards, use CompactFlash. 32GB SD cards are still expensive ($190), whereas a 32GB CompactFlash card can be had for around $80. Also, the last I checked CompactFlash still has higher read/write speeds. Another option, if you do have a compactflash slot, is to do the hard drive option where yo use the 1.5" (IIRC) IDE harddrive in a compactflash slot.

    25. Re:Labels by easyTree · · Score: 1

      IMO, one downloads something from elsewhere. One uploads something from one's own location *to* elsewhere.

    26. Re:Labels by rixster_uk · · Score: 1

      Apologies - I could have modded that insightful but thought I'd comment instead to say what a good workflow that is (I probably wont use the altoids tin though)

    27. Re:Labels by Hognoxious · · Score: 2, Funny

      But you can write on them with a black marker.

      But my SD cards are all black, you insensitive clod!

      SD cards support a physical name for their top level directories.

      Is this something different from a volume name?

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    28. Re:Labels by machine321 · · Score: 1

      Put labels on them and keep them in a credit card pocket of your wallet.

      I like to load mine with credit card numbers or sensitive government data and lose it on a train.

    29. Re:Labels by theaveng · · Score: 1

      >>>Trust me, it can easily become a huge problem if you haven't thought through a laser-targeted organizational system.

      Oh puleeze. A laser system. Overkill. Back in the era of floppies I had hundreds of floppies. I stored them inside multiple "floppy organizers" with a lock, and it was very easy to carry from place to place. There's absolutely no reason you can't store SD cards using the same plastic cases.

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    30. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I happen to have a lot of MicroSD cards, but that's because they are super cheap, and it's much cheaper to buy 4 2gig cards than 1 8gig card.

      Um, you're a wee bit behind the times. Unless your camera doesn't support the SDHC cards, there's little reason not to buy 8GB for $12-15, or even 16GB for $28.

    31. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then get bigger cards.

      I just bought a few 8GB cards for less than 15 bucks each. There is no need for separate cards for separate shoots since your camera should be automatically labeling and organising images on the card.

      You can get a 16GB for like 25 bucks or a 32GB card for about 100 bucks if you want even more space.

    32. Re:Labels by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      More fully, one downloads from somewhere to one's own location (the inverse of uploading). The computer is initiating the copy process, so it is "one's own location"; as it's the destination, not the source, downloading would be the more appropriate term.

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    33. Re:Labels by Klaus_1250 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Except you don't use 6 euro memory card with 4GB capacity if you are a professional photographer. They're too slow and fill up fast if you shoot in RAW and in high resolution (which is likely if you're a professional). Memory cards used by professional photographers are about 10x to 20x more expensive.

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    34. Re:Labels by Skater · · Score: 1

      I like your setup, but I have a question: Have you ever had a card fail? I had a CF card fail a while back, fortunately at write time, not read time, but I figure there's a chance I won't be able to read a card when I get home...which would be very frustrating (but I'm not a pro so it wouldn't be a problem like it would be for you). In my case, the card was a "professional" series (I think Lexar brand), and they replaced it without question and offered data recovery service. On the rare occasion that I buy memory cards, I buy pro-series cards for the lifetime warranty, and I try to spread around to different brands in the hopes of reducing the chances of multiple failures at the same time.

    35. Re:Labels by hachi-control · · Score: 1

      If I had a badass scar across my face, I'd be extremely pissed off if it was photoshopped off my ID card. However, the way they do it at my school is by taking a still with a video camera (bizzare, huh?),only one, and either making increasing the brightness so much you can't see anything, or making it so dark it looks like your face is covered in a light fur.

    36. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The cameras those pros shoot have a big write buffer in them too(The Nikon D3 has 2gb), so unless you are shooting like a crazy person, the cards write speed isn't a huge deal.

    37. Re:Labels by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      But my SD cards are all black, you insensitive clod!

      So use a silver sharpie, this isn't rocket science.

      Is this something different from a volume name?

      "Volume name" is an OS-specific term, this is Slashdot.

    38. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I do one better. I use a sharpie and Write "Foofle" on mine, "stimpy" on my wifes, and "squishy" on my dogs.

      It's a incredibly difficult and complex task to label SD cards. they also have these highly rare SILVER and WHITE sharpies to go along with the black ones.

      Finally, if you leave SD cards in your pocket, you end up with washed media. But for cameras I leave the camera SD cards in the camera bag.

      All highly complex and incredibly difficult solutions that I don't expect the average person to be able to handle. I'm so glad this is a slashdot front page story... as the SD card blight of 2009 will kill us all!

      I cant wait for the next slashdot story... "How do I turn on my computer"

    39. Re:Labels by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      No they are not.

      I'm a photographer and it's not "murder" to keep track of all those cards.

      Step 1 - throw away all smaller size cards. every 6 months I go through my cards and chuck in the trash or banish from the camera bag any and all cards that are under 4Gig in size. next step will be 8gig. I can shoot an entire 2 day event on a single 16 gig card so having hundreds of these things is insane.

      Next I label them.. I give the cards a number. then I write in my event logbook, I'm shooting on Card number ____

      works great and is brain dead simple to keep track of ALL my cards and what is on them. These are basic tricks used by photographers for decades... I did it with roll film back in the 80's open a new roll? write a number on it and log the number.

      This is photography 101 kind of stuff.

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    40. Re:Labels by Jason1729 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I shoot raw + jpeg on a 12 megapixel Nikon, so I blow through memory space very quicky. I use 8 gig high-end cards (I paid about $100 each for them) at the moment, and some of my collegues laugh at me for putting so many eggs in one basket with those giant cards. They still use 1-4 gig cards so they won't lose so many pictures if a card fails.

      Even raw + jpeg, I'll get about 250 images on a 4 gig (still a good 8 rolls of film before a change), so I don't see why you seem to think professionals want larger cards.

      High speed is the reason to pay so much. In burst mode shooting raw, my camera's good for about 8 pictures with it's buffer and then I'm at the mercy of the SD card. Even a 20 MB/s card limits me to a couple of pictures per second.

    41. Re:Labels by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      You assume way too much.

      6 euro 266X 4gig memory cards are very useable and are NOT slow. I can rapid fire into one writing files as fast as the shutter can go.

      and unless you're some kind of nut firing off 40-60 shots per scene you will not fill up a 4gig card that fast unless you are a rich nut shooting on a 22Megapixel Hassleblad. Most professional cameras are at the 12 megapixel range and most do NOT shoot RAW all the time. Only a idiot photographer would be shooting a sports event in RAW. you need your camera to be able to shoot 4 frames a second and no pro camera, not even my new Canon 1DS can do that in raw.

      Stop reading the photography blogs, most of those guys are worse than audiophiles.

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    42. Re:Labels by pvera · · Score: 1

      Yes, 800 is a very conservative number. On my last two visits to the Smithsonian Air & Space Museum annex at Dulles International ( http://flickr.com/photos/pvera/sets/72157594265546348/ ), I shot over 400 frames without even trying. Just walking once through each section was enough to fill the SD in my D50.

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    43. Re:Labels by Jason1729 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I *really* need raw mode, and I also bring my notebook with me everywhere for backups during a shoot. 2 cards and the hard drive device works perfectly.

      The bottle idea isn't so good because you have to remember which shoot those full cards are from. And your microSD super cheap cards are so slow I wouldn't even think of putting them in my camera (and my camera will buffer 8 raw images before memory speed is even an issue).

    44. Re:Labels by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      800 seems a bit low actually but if you've got the skill to make them count it's a good number.

      I just hope the padding material in your altoids tin is conductive so you don't have an electrostatic problem destorying cards.

    45. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      SD cards support a physical name for their top level directories.

      Correctly speaking, that's the volume label. All digital media supports this, not just USB/SD storage media.

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    46. Re:Labels by morgan_greywolf · · Score: 2, Funny

      Have you ever tried to write on a micro-SD card with a sharpie? If you have, does your day job involve writing people's names on grain of rice?

    47. Re:Labels by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Actually I have a customer who does those jobs, and you do actually need them to be in high res. Why? Because it makes it easier for him to photoshop out all those zits, whiteheads, scars, etc

      The GP was talking about student ID photos, I don't think you'd be allowed to photoshop them somehow even if you had the time. You're talking about instant laminated cards, not giant soft focus portraits.

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    48. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      More correctly, one downloads something when the device receiving the data initiates (asks for) the transfer. One uploads when the sending device initiates the transfer.

      It's a pet peeve of mine... I've played with Allen-Bradley PLCs whose programming software got it wrong-way-about. It drives me nuts trying to remember that it's exactly backward.

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    49. Re:Labels by Jason1729 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Your 8 gig cards are garbage to any real photographer. Not even getting into reliability they're too slow. Think cameras that are writing 20 megabyte+ image files and can shoot 6+ frames per second.

      Suggesting bigger cards is just stupid. A photographer is not going to put a whole shoot on one card because they are not going to risk losing an entire shoot when one card fails.

      When you're being paid $2500 for a shoot, you really don't care if you pay $15 or $150 for a card, you get whatever is best for the job. When are you going to start spouting off how we should back up to 15 cent DVD media? The media I use is about $3 each and the reflective layer is 24k gold. I know I should stop. $3 is just so expensive to store the images for $2500 shoot. I should really risk my reputation to save a few dollars.

    50. Re:Labels by ElSupreme · · Score: 1

      Yeah Blistex last winter gave out little tins with their balm. I got one, because I left my stick at home. Then I figured out it was the perfect size to hold thumb drives. So I went out and loaded up with tins.

      I keep my SD cards in there now. The tin is perfectly wide, and I use a Paper towel for wadding to keep them from rattling around and getting out of order.

      Oh and the 1a 1b 1c is the way to label your crap. I do it, with 1 in black, 2 in red and 3 in blue sharpie. Works great, and can't be beat.

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    51. Re:Labels by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1
      That's easy, just use a series of encoded dots!

      See? Simple, obvious solutions are best.

      ;)

    52. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For the majority of devices, you don't exactly get to choose whether you want SD or CF. In fact, I think devices that give you the choice are actually pretty rare.

    53. Re:Labels by necro81 · · Score: 1

      There are fine-tip sharpies available that are, aside from the ink, little different from felt-tip pens.

    54. Re:Labels by jocknerd · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If one 16GB card fails, you've lost 16GB's of photos. If one 2GB or 4GB card fails, you've lost 2GB or 4GB of photos. Better to have multiple cards around 4GB's than a single 16GB card in my opinion.

    55. Re:Labels by Arthur+Grumbine · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure that many teenagers are going to have "badass" scars. Less "badass" ones are more like it.

      Also, I think you need to spend a little more effort imagining yourself in the position of someone who is permanently disfigured. Even if their scar looks "badass" to a teenage boy, living with it is not quite like the movies.

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    56. Re:Labels by necro81 · · Score: 1

      For some of the larger schools, you're looking at 2,000 kids, and you want a minimum of four to six good photos of each kid. 2,000 times 4 is 8,000 photos.

      I don't know about you, but I was stuck with the one and only picture the indifferent photographer took. I was stuck with it for four years.

      For something like ID cards, it isn't necessary to capture a 12-megapixel image in RAW mode. The output on the ID card will probably end up measuring only a few hundred pixels per side anyway.

    57. Re:Labels by ArcherB · · Score: 1

      The OP said "...download to the computer..." You never download TO anything, except maybe a hard drive or other device to describe where the file was saved, as in "I downloaded it to the flash drive". But even that example is just short for "I downloaded the file FROM the server and saved it to the flash drive". You always download FROM. In this situation, the OP should have said "...UPLOAD to the computer..."

      You upload TO. The only exception is if you use a prepositional phrase to describe the original location. An example would be "I uploaded the file from my work server to our customer's server". Still, even in this case, you are still uploading TO.

      So, it's:

      download FROM
      upload TO
      (with few exceptions)

      Well, that's how I understand it anyway.

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    58. Re:Labels by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      I've never seen silver ink that wasn't thick and blobby and likely to flake off (i.e. not a great candidate for sticking inside delicate machinery), but maybe things have improved since the last time I wrote with one.

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    59. Re:Labels by steveo777 · · Score: 1

      Sounds like a very reasonable plan. I was just at a destination wedding in Mexico and the photographer had a belt with two or three batteries and a room full of chargers. For his camera memory he was using Compact Flash. There were two main reasons. One was that the transfer rate was far superior (66MB/s vs SD at 20MB/s) and that they were easier to label and track. Also easier to recover as they weren't flash but the mini drives. He had another holster for these. I don't know how many he had but for four hours straight he took pictures and never once ran out of space or back to the hotel.

      I have no idea how he backed up all of this, but I'm assuming he at least saved them on a laptop and hopefully an external drive.

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    60. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Pardon my asking, but why in the hell would anyone need to shoot in RAW for school photos?

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    61. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      800 shots per job is not an overestimate, it is actually a very reasonable number.

      Funny you say that - old photography joke:

      What's the difference between an amateur photographer and a professional photographer? The amateur wants every picture to be a great shot. The professional is happy with one great shot per roll of film.

    62. Re:Labels by Kent+Recal · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sneak preview, Tomorrow's headlines on slashdot:

      * Ten good reasons to pull down your pants before taking a dump
      * Ask Slashdot: I keep forgetting things, anyone know a good way to not forget things?
      * How to manage your data, ten good recommendations for folder names
      * Ask Slashdot: What size harddrive should I buy?

      zzZz

    63. Re:Labels by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      I thought that was what I said; at any rate, it's certainly what I meant. ;)

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    64. Re:Labels by home-electro.com · · Score: 1

      I agree. It's probably the dumbest story in a long time.

      How SD cards are different from the rest of the stuff, like clothes?

      Geese, like my colleagues and my family I have a lot of clothes. They are handy to move around, they have significant storage in a form of pockets. But some of them, notably socks, are very easily lost. We have also have run into some instances where it wasn't clear whose socks was whose, and have also started to see a need for a storage mechanism. I have seen shelves and closets and such, but have never actually used one. So: How do you manage and keep track of your clothes?

    65. Re:Labels by interploy · · Score: 1

      Trust me, it can easily become a huge problem if you haven't thought through a laser-targeted organizational system.

      Or he could just buy a hard drive.

    66. Re:Labels by Roland+Piquepaille · · Score: 1

      No wait, thats called puking

      It's "that'S".

      lets not be too trendy, this is News for Nerds after all.

      It's "let'S".

      You gotta love the Internet, only here can you find the analphabets correcting the illiterates...

    67. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Sort of, but your description seems ambiguous if both the source and the target for the copy are located at "one's own location".

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    68. Re:Labels by maxume · · Score: 1

      If you are going to shoot school photos at the top of Mt. Everest, you might as well do it right.

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    69. Re:Labels by ArsonSmith · · Score: 1

      Mine strategy is even easier, keep every one you have blank. Use them as a transport method only.

      except for the one in my cell phone everyone I have is either blank or considered blank and I can recreate any that I would want again from my laptop.

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    70. Re:Labels by maxume · · Score: 1

      It depends a little bit on the reliability of each variety of card...

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    71. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!

      You never download TO anything, except maybe a hard drive or other device to describe where the file was saved

      Precisely... which is exactly what was meant by "cards in need of download to the computer".

      "I downloaded the file FROM the server and saved it to the computer" equals "I downloaded the file to the computer".

      You download FROM the card TO the computer. You download TO the computer.

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    72. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      The comma should be a semicolon, and "News for Nerds" should be in quotes (or italicized), not bolded.

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    73. Re:Labels by MistrBlank · · Score: 1

      Sharpie makes silver markers just for you.

    74. Re:Labels by multisync · · Score: 1

      Silly question: Does he buy a new card for every shoot?

      No kidding. Silly story, IMO. Are people using SD cards for long-term storage? If they are, they are just asking to lose their photos.

      I dump my photos to my file server ASAP after a shoot. I do a nightly incremental backup, and a full backup every week to an external hard drive. "Important" stuff (like someone's wedding photos, for example) get transferred immediately to my storage space at my web host, providing an off-site backup.

      But I know, most people don't make multiple, redundant copies of their photos. I suppose it was no different in the past - people would get their film developed and printed and then store the photos and negatives in the same place. Often that would be a cardboard box in the basement, so if their house flooded they would lose their kid's baby pictures.

      People take a lot more pictures (and video) these days, so in a sense they have more to lose. My advise to txmadman would be to set up a hierarchy of directories - one for each family member - within the My Pictures directory of their computer and get everyone in the family in the habit of dumping their photos to their directory right away. Buy one of those external hard drives or a regular hard drive and enclosure, and use something like DeltaCopy to do automated, incremental backups (you can use the software that sometimes comes with these backup drives, but DeltaCopy offers more functionality and it's "free software"). As soon as they have transferred their pictures, they should format their memory card using the camera, to avoid confusion over whether or not they have transferred their photos.

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    75. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      You're talking about instant laminated cards, not giant soft focus portraits.

      Obviously the parents can buy copies in a variety of sizes. After looking at the wallet-sized and noticing the weird marks on their child's face, they might be interested in having their large copy touched up, and since the photographer kept the original, it's no problem to have that done.

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    76. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ummm, a Sharpie works well. It's this thing called a Pen which, when uncapped and pressed to a surface, leaves black (or colored) marks. You can then use these marks to form things called letters, which group together to become words.
      These words can then be used to identify each card. Cards can be stored in any type of small container, which would be a box-like structure that can open, close, and hold things.

      Must be a reeaaaly slow news day.

      But seriously, the mini cards I have are for my cell phone, I have one because there's no reason to have more. I have one for a small digital camera, and a few others for a nicer camera. I keep the camera cards in each case.

      Oh, and using sd cards for storage is just dumb, they're too fragile & easily damaged/lost. Any data you have on the cards should already be backed up elsewhere.

    77. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I mean... I can understand the need to have a quality product, but you really don't need a 12 MP raw image to touch up the acne and have it look good when printed on an 8x10" glossy.

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    78. Re:Labels by lazyforker · · Score: 2, Funny

      But you can write on them with a black marker.

      But my SD cards are all black, you insensitive clod!

      This reminds me a lot of Hotblack Desiato's ship.

    79. Re:Labels by patSPLAT · · Score: 1

      You can't put labels on the cards because then they bind in the devices.

      Um, yes you can. I use little stickers. This is a pretty trivial problem.

    80. Re:Labels by huge · · Score: 1

      One option is to move the write protection tab to 'LOCK' when card is full. Only move it back to 'WRITE' when you transfer the data to PC and clear the card.

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    81. Re:Labels by mfh · · Score: 1

      "Volume name" is an OS-specific term, this is Slashdot.

      Judging from the sig of the grandparent, he is an idiot and therefore incapable of understanding such generalities. Perhaps if you break it down into monosyllabic bits, his defective chimpanzee brain can grasp the fundamentals of your message.

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    82. Re:Labels by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      Rereading my post, I'm guilty as charged. :)

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    83. Re:Labels by RpiMatty · · Score: 1

      Downloading - Transferring a file from a higher level device to a lower level device. Going DOWN the chain.
      Your PC is above the PLC, so you download the ladder logic to the PLC. Your PC is at the bottom of the list on the internet, so you download from web/ftp servers to your PC.

      Uploading - Transferring a file from a lower level device to a higher level device. Going UP the chain.
      You sending a file to a server, the server is higher up so you UPload. The PLC is below the PC so you UPLOAD the plc program to your PC.

      Is how I understand up and down loading.

    84. Re:Labels by Mr.+Firewall · · Score: 1

      In Soviet Russia...

      Sharpie makes silver markers just for YOU!

      There, fixed that for you

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    85. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Although Websters apparently agrees with you, that usage is antiquated. See wiki for the correct meanings as used today.

      Basically, if the receiving device initiates a transfer, it's a download. If the sending device initiates it, it's an upload.

      Since I'm directly controlling my PC, and my PC is initiating the transfer to the PLC, it is an upload.

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    86. Re:Labels by nabsltd · · Score: 0

      considering the price of a SD card being around 6 euros for 4gb's at most big electronic stores

      In the world of professional photography, 4GB isn't enough to be useful, as it will hold only around 100 16MP+ pictures in RAW mode.

      Also, once you start storing such large files, you need very fast flash to keep up with the camera, and those cheap flash cards just don't cut it.

    87. Re:Labels by nabsltd · · Score: 1

      Only a idiot photographer would be shooting a sports event in RAW. you need your camera to be able to shoot 4 frames a second and no pro camera, not even my new Canon 1DS can do that in raw.

      There are many digital SLR cameras that can shoot 5fps for 2-3 seconds in RAW mode.

      The Sony Alpha 900 can handle well over 2 seconds for 24MP RAW images. See this review for more details.

      The latest incarnation of the Canon 1Ds can handle nearly 4 full seconds at 5fps for its 21MP RAW format: Canon 1Ds Mark III review.

      Admittedly, all the cameras that can handle this kind of speed use compact flash and not SDHC, but all the best digital SLRs use CF.

    88. Re:Labels by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      I have never met a person who shoots on a 1D/s, etc, on an SD card for event photography, either. Interestingly, the current price for a SanDisk Extreme III 4GB CF card is around US$36, just a bit more than would be practical or feasible for someone who keeps around 'literally hundreds' of them.

      I shoot weddings on a 5D Mk II, and I use 4 8GB Extreme III cards, and an Epson "Multimedia Viewer" (portable HDD with screen and CF slot, that allows you to very quickly transfer from CF to HDD so you can re-use the card).

    89. Re:Labels by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 1

      please come from

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    90. Re:Labels by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      LOL. "The dictionary (one which is well known for publishing every year lists of "new additions") is wrong, here's why: cause some random people on Wikipedia said so."

      Gah.

    91. Re:Labels by kandela · · Score: 1

      Oh really? You can write what you need to on a label that small?

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    92. Re:Labels by kandela · · Score: 1

      Personally I like to store them all in a hat. Then when I need one I put my hand in and pull one out without looking. I find this approach to be the laziest.

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    93. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Wiki is correct. Webster is wrong (and that definition probably hasn't been changed in decades). Is that a problem?

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    94. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some of the larger schools, you're looking at 2,000 kids, and you want a minimum of four to six good photos of each kid. 2,000 times 4 is 8,000 photos.

      The only way to handle that amount of pictures is to shoot tethered. That is, directly into an attached computer. Most pro-bodies can do this and You can get wireless kits (wifi) to get rid of the cable.

      Happy shooting

      This is indeed the ideal case. However, a lot of people don't have pro equipment.

      Just get a plastic container, there's all kinds of card cases in every electronics store, and the women's makeup isle has some good cases too. Then put the case inside a ziplock freezer bag.
      Either get some color-coded ones and/or use a Sharpie to label the cases so you can easily ID the full or empty cards.

      Use a sharpie to label each card once with a unique marking. I have mine labeled 1a, 1b, 2a, 2b, etc. just use a consistent system of numbering.

      Do NOT use labels, they tend to peel/tear and will often peel off inside your camera. Not fun.

    95. Re:Labels by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      And yet of the dozens of books I have on wedding photography, my chosen photographic field, not a single one has ever recommended that you shoot an entire event on a single card, especially a two day event. Tell me, Photography 101, whatcha gonna do if your single card / camera falls in the water? Or you get a nice dose of static? Or some kid running around knocks your camera tripod over?

    96. Re:Labels by RpiMatty · · Score: 1

      For the large majority of the population, download means "get it from the internet" which is what Websters says. For them upload means "send it to a website" which again, agrees with Websters definition.
      So no surprise that Wikipedia's definition is based on what the words mean to a large majority.

      I found this on the web, but am not an IEEE member so I can't confirm

      IEEE Std 610.5-1990. IEEE Standard Glossary of Data Management Terminology.
      download (A) To transfer some collection of data from a computer memory to another storage location. (B) To transfer
      some collection of data from the memory of one computer to the memory of a second computer that is relatively smaller
      than the first; for example, to transfer data from a mainframe computer to a microcomputer. (C) 610.5-1990

      upload (A) To transfer some collection of data from some storage location to a computer memory. (B) To transfer some
      collection of data from the memory of a small computer to the memory of a relatively larger computer; for example, to transfer data from a microcomputer to a mainframe computer.
      (C) 610.5-1990

    97. Re:Labels by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      I have a digital Foci unit instead of the epson, larger capacity (120 gig) and actually faster and runs fine unloading a car in my fanny pack while I continue to shoot.

      My 1DS is not for event photography but corporate and studio work, I use cheaper ones for events. In fact some of my award winning photos were shot with my "disposable" Rebel XT while I was waist high in mud.

      I wont do wedding photography anymore. not enough profit and not fun to me. Spending the hours dealing with the client and having to wear a monkey suit is not as fun as being covered in the smell of gasoline and having a top fuel dragster burn out a few feet from you. Or nabbing the shot of some partying bikers at Sturgis.

      My favorite events are skateboraders, they give you tons of opportunities for 20X30 poster size wow shots.

      Corporate pays the most money. Nothing beats getting $1200 and spending 3 hours to take a portrait of a CEO.

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    98. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      While not always avoidable, try to keep critical data off cards. We've all seen photos of cell phones with address books in toilets or the fabled $2,000 latte. Do you really want to be the next /. headline "I lost my SD card in the wash and there was data on it I didn't have replicated - can you suggest any good recovery techniques, or am I basically screwed?"

      I did wash my 1 of my microSD cards together with 2 compact flash cards and they're still useable. In fact the microSD is currently in my phone.

    99. Re:Labels by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Put labels on them and keep them in a credit card pocket of your wallet.

      This is seriously not a difficult enough problem to warrant a /. story..

      And even THAT is far more than most people would ever do. Talk about a non-story. Here's my "routine". My 8GB card sits inside my Canon camera, where it stays. 8GB, even at 10mp RAW file size is far more memory than I need for any one shoot. I'll ALWAYS be near a computer to dump the pics to if I ever need to take 500 + RAW files.

    100. Re:Labels by Hawke666 · · Score: 1

      OK then, what's wrong with four 4GB cards?

    101. Re:Labels by petermgreen · · Score: 1

      I shoot weddings on a 5D Mk II, and I use 4 8GB Extreme III cards, and an Epson "Multimedia Viewer" (portable HDD with screen and CF slot, that allows you to very quickly transfer from CF to HDD so you can re-use the card).
      That sounds like a risky strategy to me, if that portable HDD fails you will probablly have lost most of the photos from the event.

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    102. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      They have.

      and you're being contradictory just to be obnoxious.

      take your sorry ass down to the nearest office supply store and re-acquaint yourself with the latest and greatest in metallic permanent ink.

      Then you can at least bring something more than snide inflammatory comments.

    103. Re:Labels by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      If you think that's a snide and inflammatory comment, then you must be a real soft bastard. BOO!

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    104. Re:Labels by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      "Volume name" is an OS-specific term, this is Slashdot.

      So is "directory".

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    105. Re:Labels by nine-times · · Score: 1

      you ONLY format those cards and re-use them after the job is complete. before then, a minimum of 2 copies of the data must be kept.

      That seems... fine, I guess. But it's not really necessary to keep data on the card for such a long time in order to have multiple copies. Haven't you heard of "backing up your computer"?

    106. Re:Labels by duguk · · Score: 1

      Seems a lot of 4gb cards are SDHC and/or don't work in non-HC cardslots.

      A quick google search, a Sandisk FAQ and even the Wikipedia article we both referenced state "SDHC allows standard-compliant capacities in excess of 2 GB." seem to suggest this might be the case.

      Kingston even state SDHC starts at 4gb. Not claiming I understand why, but I've had some experience of 4gb cards not working in non-SDHC, some cameras don't seem to like anything more than 2GB. YMMV! HTH!

    107. Re:Labels by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      One device will start the copy, and it is that device that is downloading, the other uploading. Regardless of where they are.

      Ignoring quibbles about 'triggering the other end to do the copy', like FTP. You told your end to, in an automated way, tell the other end, so your end still did it.

      When you do this manually, like if you were to SSH into a computer and FTP back to your own computer to get a file from it, it can get somewhat confusing. Arguably, you're downloading to the SSH'd computer, but that can go either way. Likewise, it is very confusing when you trigger a copy between two computers from a third computer, like in FXP.

      So basically anything coming off an SD card is 'downloading', and anything being put on it is 'uploading'.

      Although, in reality, people usually used those terms for 'connections' to existing services, not a storage medium that get inserted into computers. But if you're going to use those in that sense, you're always downloading from them when you copy off them. As storage devices cannot initiate copying themselves.

      And suddenly I just remembered those 'backup' external hard drives where a button press can initiate a backup, which adds even more to the confusion.

      NASA, of course, is completely broken in this regard, and using 'uploading' to actually mean 'up', regardless of who did it.

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    108. Re:Labels by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      Good point. I still don't re-use the card until I "have" to... and I can get around 2,000 shots from those cards, so it's rare that I'd need to, so at that point I've got two copies (then when I get home it goes to a dedicated 500GB drive for photography only, and that night to a backup drive.

      Worst case scenario, the portable is at least in a more controlled environment (not going with me all over the place, kneeling, standing in water, whatever), and hard drive data recovery is less of a black art than CF data recovery.

    109. Re:Labels by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1
      I enjoy the fun of a wedding - it's usually an enjoyable event, and I've only had a couple of Bridezillas (and even then, maybe I've got lucky - most of mine seemed mainly to be overly stressed, and calmed down as they saw that things were capable of running themselves without the bride functioning as an orchestra conductor).

      Definitely, though, I agree with you on other points - it's the photographer and the composition, and the subject that make the shot, not the camera. Some of my more fun photography experiences: sitting in an arena (though still with a 400mm lens) shooting ren faire horseback jousting, being up close and shooting a police dog demonstration from a few feet away as it did takedowns, lying on my stomach on an ice rink in a Broadway theater doing promo shots for a "Nutcracker On Ice" show, with an Olympic ice skater skating up to me and flying over my head, and (as soon as the weather clears) doing some work for a local sanctuary shooting their 6 month old Canadian Lynx.

    110. Re:Labels by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Um, no.

      Download is a verb. Downloading goes from one place to another place. You can add on, or leave off, either or both of those prepositions. (And put whatever other prepositions make sense on there, like the time.)

      I downloaded the file.
      I downloaded the file from X.
      I downloaded the file to Y.
      I downloaded the file from X to Y.
      I downloaded the file to Y from X.

      All perfectly valid grammatically and logically. It's exactly the same with uploaded.

      The difference is the implied preposition. With downloaded, the implied preposition is 'to the subject of the sentence', whereas with uploaded it is 'from the subject of the sentence'.

      Now, there is a difference between downloaded and uploaded, but it's not which has 'to' vs. 'from'. It's which end initiated it.

      I uploaded a file from France to Russia.
      I downloaded a file from France to Russia.

      The first means I, from France, sent a file from there to Russia.
      The second means I, from Russia, asked a computer in France for a file and got it.

      With downloaded, you are speaking from the POV of the computer that asked for the file to be sent to it, whereas with uploaded, you are speaking from the POV of the computer that asked to send the file. And only one of those can exist (Only one person could start this whole thing!), so everything is either an upload or a download, not both. But that doesn't mean you can't clarify either verb with both a 'to' and a 'from' to explain what is meant.

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    111. Re:Labels by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Sync tools are plentiful and easier to understand and deal with than 'backup' tools.

      Incremental backup tools only make sense for personal users if they have big files that change often. Otherwise, they should get a NAS or a external USB drive and simply one-way sync files onto it.

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    112. Re:Labels by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      I never used the term directory. Why do you bring it up? How about namespace?

    113. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      You corrected Hognoxious for using "volume name" after dotancohen said "top level directories". Hognoxious wanted to know if they were the same thing.

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    114. Re:Labels by agbinfo · · Score: 1

      Webster adds the 'usually large' adjectives. This, to me, implies that it's not always the case that the source of the transfer is larger or a computer.

    115. Re:Labels by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      How about carrying a laptop to sync them all to? Much easier than sorting through a dozen or more cards.

      Unless he's a professional, in which case he really should just buy a hundred high capacity cards and just number them and go in numerical order for the entire shoot.

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    116. Re:Labels by multisync · · Score: 1

      Sync tools are plentiful and easier to understand and deal with than 'backup' tools.

      That's what DeltaCopy is - a Windows implementation of rsync. After the initial "backup," subsequent runs only copy the files (or portions of a given file) that have changed, so depending on how much new data you generate on a daily basis, it doesn't take very much time. You can use the Windows scheduler to automate the process, and it's quite painless. It can also work with network shares, something the "backup" software that is typically included with the external hard drives can not do. That's why I recommend it to people who aren't savvy enough to manage a proper backup routine.

      I have set up a number of these devices at our smaller branches, who don't have a "server" on site. One of the machines runs the DeltaCopy service, and the rest connect to it and synchronize daily. I remote in from time-to-time to make sure everything is running smoothly and usually have someone take the drive home at night so they have an off-site backup. Other than plugging the thing in every morning, the user doesn't have to do a thing.

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    117. Re:Labels by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Even if they can't do this, that just means you need a laptop and two cards. (Or three if one fails.)

      This lets you swap out cards, stick the full one in your computer, and keep going while it copies. And it will obviously finish fast enough...it just has to copy one photo in the time it takes you to take one photo.

      Anyone who thinks 'but he might not be able to afford a laptop' is ignoring the fact that a hundred SD cards would cost something like 800 dollars at minimum, and that's assuming they are the current smallest size. If they were moderately sized ones when purchased, that'd be something like $2500. You can buy one of those cheap flash Linux laptop for like $250, and they have SD slots, although it's possible they don't have enough 'disk space'. But a real laptop is like $500.

      There are also devices explicitly designed to solve this problem, external hard drives that operate on their own to move files from SD cards to an internal hard drive. I don't know how much they are, but certainly less than laptops.

      Does anyone feel like we're solving a problem that can't actually exist anyway?

      As for the actual topic under discussion, I actually do have a need for SD storage, although not 'hundreds' of cards. I have a SD mp3 player in my car, and I have four or five cards with different music on them. I solve the labeling problem simply by labeling them A-E, and knowing roughly what I have on each one. I used to do essentially the same thing for VHS tapes, way back when. As long as I know I currently have Christmas music on D, and BNL on A, or whatever I'm good. And worse comes to worst, it's not that hard to check each one.

      However, my actual problem is physically securing them. Right now, I have plastic cases for three of them, but that's a crazy hassle. Is there some sort of SD card holder that holds them in by friction but you can pull them straight out?

      Something like any of the CD solutions, either sideways jewel-case holders, or the flat clear plastic books, but for SD cards? It would be amazingly nice if they were actually designed to be mounted, but I'd take anything. (I collect old 128 and 256 meg SD cards from friends and family, with the plan to put individual albums on them, but I can't actually manage them in my car right now.)

      I can find 'SD holders', but they seem designed to hold, like, two SD cards. And they seem larger than just keeping them in the two fricking plastic cases the cards came in. And they're super expensive...I presume they're for 'I plan to take eight bajillion pictures on vacation, and I'm an ass', vs. 'There is nothing valuable on any of these cards, but I'd rather they stay where I can find them and not slide under the car seats.'

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    118. Re:Labels by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Storage mechanisms for clothes are stupid, you can't ever find anything.

      Just get a very big floor, and throw everything on it.

      Plus, you can reuse clothes by putting them back, and, when you decide to wash, you can easily see which is dirty. (Or, alternately, if you wish to wash everything after wearing it once, just store it in the washing machine after wearing.)

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    119. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      True, but it neglects entirely to point out that downloads are initiated by the recipient while uploads are initiated by the sender.

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    120. Re:Labels by maxume · · Score: 1

      I was, however obliquely, agreeing with you. There aren't really any schools anywhere near the top of any mountain (and to whoever replies with a school near the top of a mountain, the fact that there is a school there indicates that it isn't a real mountain...).

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    121. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The chance that you lose all 16GB is reduced by multiple smaller cards, however the chance to lose some of your work is greatly increased.

      Let's assume that the risk of losing one card is 1%. This is probably way to high, but makes it easier to work with.

      For one 16GB card the chance that you lose all of it is 0.01. For 16 1GB cards it is 0.01**16 = 1e-32.
      This is obviously way, way better!

      But assuming that the cards integrity is good and you don't lose part of the data you also have a 1-(0.99**16) ~= 0.15 chance of losing at least 1GB of your data. While for a 16GB card this chance is 0.

      Combine this with the fact, that you might miss critical moments changing cards, cards can more easily be lost / damaged if you have to constantly take them out of your camera and the sheer convenience of not having to handle 16 individual cards, i'd rather stay with one 16GB card.

    122. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I sorta figured you were.

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    123. Re:Labels by multisync · · Score: 2, Interesting

      If I had a badass scar across my face, I'd be extremely pissed off if it was photoshopped off my ID card

      Not to mention the fact that the purpose of an ID card is to identify someone. Altering their appearance in the photo kind of defeats that purpose.

      I use Photoshop mostly to make levels adjustments and such to improve the quality of the photo, not change the way a person looks. If the subject of an otherwise good shot has a booger in his nose, or some other "temporary" feature that would embarrass them, I'll touch it up, but other than that I leave it alone. I like to say that I use Photoshop to fix my mistakes, not God's.

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    124. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Or, alternately, if you wish to wash everything after wearing it once, just store it in the washing machine after wearing.

      Personally, I feel it makes more sense to store the clean clothes in the washer and the dirty ones on the floor. Maybe that's just me, though.

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    125. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      CmdrTaco, how can you let a n00b like kdawson clutter the front page of slashdot with a terribly stupid question like this? It isn't even categorized as "Ask Slashdot"

    126. Re:Labels by maxume · · Score: 1

      The constant loud beeping gets on my nerves, so I try to keep it in a forward gear.

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    127. Re:Labels by FrankieBaby1986 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't a simple, effective system be to label the cards in hex (for large count, but small number of symbols) and use a journal to 'label' them. Example:

      Label the cards 00 to FF for 256 cards This way only two characters are needed to label the cards, allowing larger writing, making them easier to identify.

      Then use a spreadsheet (printed out) to associate card with Shoot Date, Location and Client. Erase the line on the spreadsheet once the card is uploaded. This eliminates the need to write and erase (with marker/pencil) in the card itself, keeps the cards organized, and whenever your paper spreadsheet wears out, you print a new one.

      And of course, store them in small boxes sorted either perfectly or at least by range (groups of 32: 00-1F, 20-3F, 40-5F, 60-7F, 80-9F, A0-BF, C0-DF, E0-FF)

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    128. Re:Labels by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 1

      Where did you get the idea of using actual lasers?

      A floppy case (I have many) is an example of a specific tool that gets the job done. It's a "laser-targeted" system so to speak.

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    129. Re:Labels by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 1

      See! You use a simple organization system involving force of habit to keep the cards in consistent places! Is it expensive? No. Is it simple? Yes.

      You just have fewer cards than my Uncle, I take it. My family is well-known for being a bunch of stingy pack-ratting scrooges, so I guess it figures.

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    130. Re:Labels by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 1

      My old school and the schools my Uncle services used those pictures for the yearbook as well, so higher resolutions were non-negotiable. Keeping a detailed record of all the shots, an having a way to transmitting the work to the school for the poor yearbook kids to make into a book is also non-negotiable.

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    131. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      DVDs? I don't care how much gold they have, it's not a reliable choice.

    132. Re:Labels by Alchemist253 · · Score: 1

      I have several "Sharpie Metallic" silver pens. They don't have thick ink, the ink doesn't flake off. They are great for marking literal black boxes, like servers and routers.

    133. Re:Labels by revjtanton · · Score: 1

      "This is seriously not a difficult enough problem to warrant a /. story.." Agreed. I just clicked on this story because it was scrolling in my RSS ticker...I figured it would be something more informative or interesting...I was disappointed.

    134. Re:Labels by muridae · · Score: 1

      If you are shooting with a card that only gets 3.5MB/s write speed, you are still going to hit the end of that buffer and be waiting. And before you go into how 'only a crazy person would use a card that slow,' might I suggest that you check out some place like this and see that at least one 133x speed SD card did rate that slow in the nice new D3.

    135. Re:Labels by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      My old school and the schools my Uncle services used those pictures for the yearbook as well, so higher resolutions were non-negotiable.

      Higher resolution, sure. 12 megapixel Raw images, I doubt.

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    136. Re:Labels by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 1

      How would YOU like to be the one to get complained at by an irate school district (some of the most ass-backwards, vindictive people on the face of the planet) that their POOR yearbook class was STYMIED that their pictures DIDN'T LOOK RIGHT because the resolution was too low!

      Nevermind that it's just viewing the high-res zoomed-in version on the computer and that when you're no longer looking at it at 800% magnification on a computer screen it will look just fine.

      If that's not sadistic enough for you, how could you possibly resist dropping 800 GB of data onto a poor unprepared school district? The raw joy in doing that to a school which still hasn't managed to find a single hard drive over 250gb would be absolute techno-thuggish nirvana!

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    137. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't many of the cameras offer direct to computer storage? ie bluetooth, or cable attached or other communication method - bypassing the cards altogether???

    138. Re:Labels by muridae · · Score: 1

      Prior to my cousin's wedding last year, my sister and I were talking cameras. She had brought her new digital, I had my old film one, and we were picking which camera and lens combo to sneak into the wedding, just to add some less scripted shots than the pro would get, and to get pics of people walking in while they were shooting elsewhere. It worked out well, and we got to talking with the pro afterwards.

      She shot, with her assistant, over 8000 digitals in RAW and, I believe, she said 20 rolls of film. It was a long ceremony, and she shot all day before and then took pictures through dinner afterward. But 2000 shots and that few cards still sounds low to me.

      I know that my sister and I topped out the one memory card we had and were deleting pictures as we went. Probably even switched to JPEG just to get through the day. Pity her camera didn't take the cards I had for MP3s and such.

      Now, I manage to get by with just 2 4gig cards. I have filled an older 2gig card in less than an hour, while out hiking. It's easy to just sit with the bracket exposure setting on, rapid firing the shutter while you wait for the deer/turkey/bluebird to poke it's head up and pose. And it helps for those moments when I still find my self muttering "That looked in focus, why didn't they put a split prism in this view finder?"

    139. Re:Labels by Achromatic1978 · · Score: 1

      She shot, with her assistant, over 8000 digitals in RAW and, I believe, she said 20 rolls of film. It was a long ceremony, and she shot all day before and then took pictures through dinner afterward. But 2000 shots and that few cards still sounds low to me.

      9,000 shots in say 12 hours is a photograph every 9 seconds, even for 2 photographers. Presuming her assistant spent half the time assisting, rather than shooting, and factoring in travel from the preparation location to the ceremony, the ceremony to a formal shot location, to the reception, you're probably looking at a photograph closer to every 3 seconds for 12 hours for the entire day.

      At some point, quantity overtakes quality. You need multiple shots of portraits to make sure you don't get blinking, and so you do get 'that moment'.

      There are typically two schools of wedding photography. One, charge a low upfront fee, and make money on selling prints, and two, charge a high upfront fee, and make less money on the prints. I tend to go for the latter - the first seems to be naturally steered towards a mindset of "will this sell"? Those cute, odd, eccentric and esoteric shots happen far less, because the photographer isn't going to make money off them. The latter, you're providing a creative experience.

      At what point, too, does it become fish in a barrel? Stand there firing your shutter every three seconds rarely leads to well composed, nicely exposed, well-framed, suitably aperture adjusted and focused shots for all 9,000 photographs taken. Shoot in Program mode, maybe. You'll get many great shots, but of those 9,000 shots, of which 8,000+ of which will be "thrown away" before the client even sees them (and even for the best of photographers, in such a situation, 2,000+ will probably be completely unusable due to focus or other 'technical issues', and another 2,000+ due to someone blinking, someone getting in frame, etc), how many really "added value" to the capturing of the moment, and how many were realistically a high red, stop motion video capture of the day?

      Or would you like your photographer to spend time walking around, finding that perfect spot to shoot you from, or to sneak up to a balcony and capture an intimate moment of you and your new bride, completely lost in each other, unaware of anything, let alone the camera? If you're firing off that shot every 3 seconds, then it's a lot harder to find that. Add to that, 20mb raw files, you have 160gb of raw data to manage. 10 8 gig cards per photographer. I'm not saying she didn't shoot all that, I'm just talking about the realm (and I admit, I'm biased) of "was she searching for genuinely creative capturing of moments" or "was she shooting the shit out of everything, and digging through the haystack"?

    140. Re:Labels by muridae · · Score: 1

      I've already posted, so I can't mod you up. But this is exactly right.

      Just like there was in film days, the gap between pro photographers and moms who want a snapshot of their kid at the football game is still there. Now, instead of being film speed and "I don't care, the 3200 film makes a nice 3x5 picture", it's about memory cards. Some people do not comprehend filling a 1 gig card in under 100 shots, or needing to shoot more then 1 picture a every 5 seconds, or even dream that by shooting in RAW the picture itself is 15MB and takes a noticeable time to store on the card. They shoot the same point and click cameras that are now digital instead of film, and think that a 10 megapixel image takes up about 1MB. That's because, for them, that's true.

      What the amateur and pro photographers need to learn is that the snapshot people aren't going to learn better, because for them those thoughts are true. What the snapshot photographers need to learn is that what works for them will not work for a pro getting paid to shoot for a living. In the same way that you won't win NASCAR with an actual stock car off the showroom floor, you won't get paid much to take pictures with cheap off-the-shelf parts.

      There, obligatory car analogy made. I hope that helps someone.

    141. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet of the dozens of books I have on wedding photography, my chosen photographic field, not a single one has ever recommended that you shoot an entire event on a single card, especially a two day event. Tell me, Photography 101, whatcha gonna do if your single card / camera falls in the water? Or you get a nice dose of static? Or some kid running around knocks your camera tripod over?

      If you're running a single card, then you have no business taking it out of the camera, therefore when you drop your camera in the water, the card is protected, and at worst you'll be out a body and a lens.

      I've killed cards with static. They still read just fine, maybe I'm lucky but other anecdotal suggests that flash cards fail on write more often then read.

      Same thing with the camera on the tripod. Worse case your out a lens and a body. The flash card will be just fine.

    142. Re:Labels by fm6 · · Score: 1

      Have you actually tried the solution you think is so obvious? I haven't, but I can think of a ton of problems with it:

      • Labels help you remember what you intended to use the card for. They don't help you remember what you actually used the card for. They don't prevent you from forgetting where you put them. Or from them just getting lost, which they're likely to do if you stick in your wallet credit card slot.
      • SD slots tend to be pretty tight. I'd be afraid that the label would scrape off, maybe making the slot useless in the process. Oops, there goes my $300 camera!
      • Can you really write small enough to put a useful label on MicroSD card? And can you read it without a magnifying glass?
    143. Re:Labels by muridae · · Score: 1

      I had a nice long reply, but /. won't let me post it and won't tell me what's wrong with the formating. So, point by point without quotes:

      No, I didn't ask what she charged for the day or by the print. Wasn't my wedding, wasn't my business, and I probably won't be back in that part of the country should I need to hire a professional. I didn't even think to ask if the 8000 was over just that day, from the time the bride showed up to get made up till the end of the reception, or if it included the portraits done at the rehearsal and other gatherings. I'm guessing it was a mix of both.

      As for fish in a barrel, sometimes that's what you have to shoot. No one planned for all the under 35 'kids' to jump in and start boogieing to "We Are Family" halfway through the song, so there isn't time to think out 'where could I go for a better shot?' So, I suspect the bulk of those 8000 pictures were just that, shooting on rapid fire and hoping to get a good shot. But I also saw the candid shots, of the bride getting her hair done, and sneaking around the church to see everyone gathering, and the photographer sneaking past the roped off areas to get to the slightly unsafe balcony. It wasn't just a day of 'snap everything and hope'.

      Myself, I like someone shooting both. Sometimes you can plan and plan a shot, and just never get the people to cooperate. Sometimes you can just set the camera and let it fire by it self, and get a great candid shot of the guests acting like fools. Other times, those pictures of the guests never turn out because they wore a dayglo leisure suit, and the crafty shots of the bride and maids of honor turn out great.

    144. Re:Labels by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      Put labels on them and keep them in a credit card pocket of your wallet.

      This is seriously not a difficult enough problem to warrant a /. story..

      And even THAT is far more than most people would ever do. Talk about a non-story. Here's my "routine". My 8GB card sits inside my Canon camera, where it stays. 8GB, even at 10mp RAW file size is far more memory than I need for any one shoot. I'll ALWAYS be near a computer to dump the pics to if I ever need to take 500 + RAW files.

      Right. All my SD cards call one device Home, and except when plugged into my computer temporarily to add files or something the cards are always in their devices.

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    145. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If one 16GB card fails, you've lost 16GB's of photos. If one 2GB or 4GB card fails, you've lost 2GB or 4GB of photos. Better to have multiple cards around 4GB's than a single 16GB card in my opinion.

      No... if the probability of a failure is 1%. One 16 GB card has a system reliability of 99%. Four 4GB cards have a reliability of ~96%. Do the math.

    146. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Buy a stamp or coin album of the type with the little pockets for each item, there is usually a clear plastic front you can label with a dry erase marker or just label the entire sheet.

    147. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are a fucking moron who obviously hasn't touched a piece of technology newer than 5 years. Modern SD cards handle your lowly 20MB images easily. Just because you work with old failing equipment that can't handle high capacity or do automatic organization doesn't mean other people have to work as idiotically as you do.

      Now kindly go choke on some cocks and die.

    148. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You gotta love the Internet, only here can you find the analphabets correcting the illiterates...

      I've read your crappy science blog and I don't see how you could think you have the high ground here. Please learn to read before correcting others again.

    149. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      as a pro photographer,
      for any pro shoot, ANYWHERE,
      BRING YOUR LAPTOP,
      with your 320+gig internal hard drive (with RAID mirror possibly),
      and shoot tethered!

      Secondarily, get a Hyperdrive or something.

    150. Re:Labels by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      Um, yes you can. I use little stickers. This is a pretty trivial problem.

      The MiniSD card in my Nokia 6288 actually scrapes the plastic of whatever is holding it (scrape marks on the card itself). Nothing thicker than hydrogen atom is getting in there.

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    151. Re:Labels by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      What the amateur and pro photographers need to learn is that the snapshot people aren't going to learn better, because for them those thoughts are true. Very true, but what gets me is all these snapshot people who are spouting here that they know better than the pros and the pros are doing it the wrong way (like the AC on this thread). To continue your analogy, I know that I could not win a NASCAR race with an actual stock car and I know I can't build an actual NASCAR. Why do the snapshot people posting here think they know it better than the pros?

    152. Re:Labels by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      how about a script to watch for an insertion of an sd card, it then copies the pics to the harddrive, erases the card, then makes a noise or something when its finished?

      yer photo guy then just takes pics, when the card is full he inserts it into his laptop, plugs in a spare sd into has camera and take more pics. by the time hes filled it up, the first card is ready for him.

    153. Re:Labels by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Correct. I suppose there's time to read the context or time to be an OS zealot, but not both.

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  2. DS game organizer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    see above

  3. wallets and silver sharpies by PhrostyMcByte · · Score: 1

    I use a wallet and a silver sharpie. Not the Organizational Dream, but it's manageable for now.

    1. Re:wallets and silver sharpies by Technician · · Score: 1

      Im my case, the one for the GPS maps is in the GPS. The one for the camera is in the camera. The one for the MP3 player is in the MP3 player.

      If I need more space for an extended trip, I just upgrade the size and give the undersize one away. There is no inventory of loose cards.

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    2. Re:wallets and silver sharpies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is exactly how I do it too.

      I really don't understand why anyone would have more than a couple of these things in active use, much less dozens. If you are carting around more than a couple of gigs of data, it's time to examine your storage policies.

      I've got 2gb in my phone. 2gb in my camera, and a key chain usb stick with 8gb of encrypted storage. With the proper adapter cable, I can dump from the SD cards onto the USB stick using just my phone as a go between. It's FAR more data storage than I have ever actually used.

      You can't lose the cards if they never leave the device they are used with. You also don't have to try and manage them, because they are already right where they are supposed to be.

    3. Re:wallets and silver sharpies by ZoCool · · Score: 1

      I use a wallet and a silver sharpie. Not the Organizational Dream, but it's manageable for now.

      Not a silly question, and yours the start of a decent answer. A 'permanent pigmented ink' (Nikko make some) marker pen (art shops) numbers each card. Any number, but naturally unique. On my Mac I'd mount the card, open it in list view, Select All & copy. In your favourite spreadsheet paste into the top cell and you get just the file names in the first column. (Does Win do this too?) Next column put card number/CD, VD name, etc and Fill Down. Sort. Bingo! One db. Add other cards, CDs, DVDs et al, adding each copy below the last, then sorting the lot each time. Good macro exercise. One day! With transient data sets like a card I'd also add a date column. I've tried most, & bought some, of the mainline cataloguers - this setup is much faster, dead cheaper, and generally easier to access. My db has about 4k entries now, and stretches back years. Dead easy to find stuff. Put 'em where it's easiest for you; wallet, purse, bank card micro-wallet, what-ever. FWIW

  4. Altoids tin by FranTaylor · · Score: 2, Informative

    holds a whole bunch of them.

    1. Re:Altoids tin by Bazman · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I use a 35mm film canister for the SD cards I use for photography.

    2. Re:Altoids tin by Nirvelli · · Score: 1

      Ironic Much?

    3. Re:Altoids tin by houghi · · Score: 2, Informative

      I do almost the same. As I use mainly microSD it is a very small box for pills. In it also an SD adapter and a USB adapter. This is how you can keep your stuff. If things still get mixed up, buy some paint and give each of them a different color. You only need to have three colours for 4 people.

      For example: pink for the daughter, blue for the son, white for the wife and no colour for the husband. That way marking them is a job of each owner and if they forget, the item becomes automagicaly dads. Mark your stuff or its mine worked in the past and lessons are very fast learned. The kids might hate you for it, but you are not there to become their friend, but to give them valuable lessons for the future.

      Keeping their stuff to themselves will learn them ow to organize things on other levels as well.

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    4. Re:Altoids tin by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      The phrase that came to my mind was the one about rectangular pegs in round holes...

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    5. Re:Altoids tin by jecowa · · Score: 1

      Lesson learned: Write your name on other people's stuff and it's yours!

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  5. Ummm... write something on the label? by WoTG · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's not a new concept... labeling media goes all the way back to cassette tapes. (Eight tracks are before my time, were they writeable?)

    1. Re:Ummm... write something on the label? by GeorgeS · · Score: 1

      Yes. You can write on an 8-track. They actually have much more space to write on than a cassette tape.

      oh...almost forgot...get off my lawn you kids!

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    2. Re:Ummm... write something on the label? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      With the abundance of floppy disks, people appear to be helpless with similar products

    3. Re:Ummm... write something on the label? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not only were they writable, you could gut them and store joints in the empty shell!

    4. Re:Ummm... write something on the label? by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      You had tape? We had to record our music on spools of wire!

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    5. Re:Ummm... write something on the label? by kent_eh · · Score: 1

      Of course 8-tracks were writable.
      My parents still listen to some of their 8-track mix tapes.
      Keeping their players working isn't too hard, though head alignment is a bit of a pain.

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    6. Re:Ummm... write something on the label? by Nethead · · Score: 1

      Very close format to the broadcast cart. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Broadcast_cart which were erased by a bulk eraser.

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    7. Re:Ummm... write something on the label? by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      It's not a new concept... labeling media goes all the way back to cassette tapes. (Eight tracks are before my time, were they writeable?)

      Unfortunately regular SD or SDHC cards are at the lower end of useful label size. MicroSD and MiniSD are even worse. So about the best that you can do is some sort of 2-4 character code on each card, and use some other method to keep track of the contents.

      Some useful card cases are:

      CaseAce 3010 Cardsafe SD Card Holder In DVD Case Holds 9
      Glossa Aluminum SD Card Case

      The aluminum card cases hold 3 SD cards, are slim and sturdy, but are nearly impossible to find anymore (CyberGuys used to sell them).

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  6. whenever i need to find an SD card by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    I put one small ad in a hundred newspapers around the world

    and then i play the waiting game

  7. Why is the title red, you ask? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because it's an emergency. Losing your personal storage media means those drunk photos your friends took of you with your camera when you were passed out will be lost forever.

    Something like Fluffy said, label them if it helps. To store them, I keep what few I have in a CD book, the kind with the transparent, flexible plastic sleeves and a zipper.

    Or you could use a credit card/business card wallet and keep it in a drawer.

    1. Re:Why is the title red, you ask? by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      No.. the emergency happens, when those pics are actually FOUND

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  8. uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I leave them in their damn slot.. be it camera, phone, vibrator, etc... no need to keep multiple ones around... save the data, or delete! jeez... lame noobs....

    1. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      ... vibrator, etc...

      You have an SD card in a sex toy? Damn, they'll put memory cards in anything these days.

    2. Re:uh... by thegnu · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's a dastardly plot to replace men completely. Pretty soon, vibrators will be able to replicate our feeling.

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    3. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uhh....isn't it the men that want to try to replicate the vibrator's feeling?

    4. Re:uh... by VinylPusher · · Score: 0

      Replicating blokes feelings is hardly complex. Hunger, anger, happiness, boredom-level... after that it's just combinations of the 4.

    5. Re:uh... by daveime · · Score: 1

      We'd already BE replaced, if they could design a computer to :-

      1. Order a round of drinks
      2. Unblock the sink
      3. Catch mice and rats

    6. Re:uh... by daveime · · Score: 1

      oops ...

      4. ???
      5. Profit !!!

    7. Re:uh... by ciderVisor · · Score: 1

      Hunger, anger, happiness, boredom-level

      You forgot 'horniness'.

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    8. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lies, no machine could ever be as cold and heartless as a real man...

    9. Re:uh... by AusIV · · Score: 1
      That was my thought. The only time any of my cards are out of their devices is when I'm transferring the data to my hard-drive. I pop it out of my camera, phone, vibrator (????), etc., put it in my laptop, copy the data off, and put it back. No problem.

      I suppose if you're on a long trip and taking a lot of pictures with a camera that doesn't support SDHC (limiting you to 2GB), you might need to swap out cards throughout the trip, but keep them in your camera case and problem solved.

    10. Re:uh... by xonar · · Score: 1

      +1 Hairy

    11. Re:uh... by thegnu · · Score: 1

      We'd already BE replaced, if they could design a computer to :-

      1. Order a round of drinks
      2. Unblock the sink
      3. Catch mice and rats

      This is EXACTLY why I'm hostile to women in the sciences. :)

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    12. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pretty soon, vibrators will be able to replicate our feeling.

      A lot of women would claim that this has already happened. ie We (men) have the emotional depth and range of a vibrator.

    13. Re:uh... by thegnu · · Score: 1

      And I doubt the vibrator would be able to provide that subtle womanizing that takes a lifetime to perfect.

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    14. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I pop it out of my camera, phone, vibrator (????), etc.,

      Maybe it has a camera in it... :D

    15. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's a dastardly plot to replace men completely. Pretty soon, vibrators will be able to replicate our feeling.

      Psh, if they were using it to try to replace men, it definitely wouldn't have a memory card in it.

    16. Re:uh... by genner · · Score: 1

      It's a dastardly plot to replace men completely. Pretty soon, vibrators will be able to replicate our feeling.

      Why would women buy a device that tells them to go make a sammich?

    17. Re:uh... by Abreu · · Score: 1

      You also forgot "kill an allegedly huge spider" and "open a jar of mayo"

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    18. Re:uh... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misread that. What I meant is, I leave the vibrator in its damn slot at all times. Except when other bodily functions claim priority.

  9. A pen by Psychotria · · Score: 0, Redundant

    I know. But, sometimes the simplest solutions are the best. Get a permenant marker and write on the silly things. After they're all appropriately marked keep them wherever... camera bag, wallet, in the device, wherever.

  10. Keep the cards used with the device by syousef · · Score: 3, Informative

    I keep the cards with the device I use them most with.

    MicroSD - my phone or GPS
    SD - Point and click camera
    CF - SLR

    Oh and chuck smaller capacity cards as you replace them (like the ones that they ship with cameras and fit 3 images). They're worse than useless - they're a distraction (possibly at a crucial time in photography).

    I find I don't need thousands of SD cards. I probably have 20 SD cards and 10 CF cards.

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  11. buy high cap. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i buy 16GB or 32GB only. one per device. the microSDHC slots gets the 16GB ones, the 32GB ones go in the SD slots. one per device means no more shuffling and plenty of storage.
    dont buy low capacity cards. the big ones are 30 bux.

    1. Re:buy high cap. by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      Well, there are professional photographers that burn through flash over the course of a sporting event. Though, I'm guessing they just put them in a container of sorts and sift through them all later.

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    2. Re:buy high cap. by MadKeithV · · Score: 1

      At some point though, when you end up with dozens of cards each containing thousands of photos, you're going to spend so much time sifting through the crap that you'll think "maybe next time I should take fewer but better pictures" ;-).
      (Though high-speed shooting at sporting events can really burn through cards when you don't have time to sift them)

    3. Re:buy high cap. by tonsofpcs · · Score: 1

      They make wonderful little boxes that you can plug a real HDD in and plug a memory card in and it will transfer the data from the card to the HDD... or you can just use your computer when you return home. I personally just use one card per device and when the portions it writes get full, that data gets archived and wiped from the card.

  12. Wipe them by dargaud · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Plug them in a PC, move everything over to the PC, reformat the card. Now they are all identical and it doesn't matter who they belong to or if you lose them. Why do you ask ? Incidentaly I use the following Linux/Cygwin script to sort out the files.

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    1. Re:Wipe them by carterson2 · · Score: 1

      Shameless sideline here:

      I need a driver written:
      It has to write to an SD card under Windoze.
      The kicker is, No filesystem, just raw locations.
      Any leads appreciated!

      jim

    2. Re:Wipe them by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      Unless of course the files got corrupt in copying, you have a virus, you're in such a hurry you accidently pull the card out before it's done in the excitement of the shoot, or a hundred other reasons your PC files might not be reliable. We are not talking about vacation snapshots at the end of the day here. We're talking a professional shoot with thousands of dollars and the photographer's reputation at stake. And for that matter, how does your script sort out which shoot the files belong to. That's a stupidly vague statement. Oh, I don't need to organize my cards, I use Elements organizer.

    3. Re:Wipe them by dargaud · · Score: 1

      [...] how does your script sort out which shoot the files belong to.

      By date. Easy enough.

      Unless of course the files got corrupt in copying [...] That's a stupidly vague statement. Oh, I don't need to organize my cards, I use Elements organizer.

      And how does Elements fare with corrupted cards or a corrupted filesystem ? I doubt any better than my little script. At least _I know_ what it does, unlike Elements which manipulates databases and tons of other crap around. Good luck when _that_ gets corrupted. I trust my filesystem when I manipulate files, thank you.

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    4. Re:Wipe them by Hatta · · Score: 1

      If you're that concerned about corruption, edit the script to use rsync instead of mv. Problem solved.

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    5. Re:Wipe them by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      Don't think you actually need a driver, you just need to open \\.\PHYSICALDRIVEn

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    6. Re:Wipe them by Abreu · · Score: 1

      Weirdly enough, Websense blocks your site, claiming it falls into the "hacker" category

      Just thought I'd let you know...

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    7. Re:Wipe them by carterson2 · · Score: 1

      negative,
      There is no filesystem, so opening a drive won't work.
      thanks for replying

    8. Re:Wipe them by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      That's the *physical drive*, not the file system. The file system would be \\.\C

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    9. Re:Wipe them by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      How does rsync help if you drop the laptop on the way home and destroy the hard drive? Wouldn't it be better to put it on the laptop and keep it on the SD card in case you lose the tiny SD card on the way home?

      You're either deliberately or ignorantly missing the concept of a commercial environment.

    10. Re:Wipe them by carterson2 · · Score: 1

      I am thinking you know how to do this?? Would you do it for a couple bucks? Let me know outside of slashdot. gpscruise@gmail.com

    11. Re:Wipe them by Amazing+Quantum+Man · · Score: 1

      Unfortunately, it's been about 8 or 9 years since I've done any device work on Windows.

      But see the CreateFile call, it describes how to open both physical and logical devices.

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    12. Re:Wipe them by carterson2 · · Score: 1

      wow, thanks for that.
      Since it takes me weeks to get a new windows-environment running, I will ask this:
      Do you know anyone (besides you) who might do this for pay?
      I won't bug you further....
      -jim

    13. Re:Wipe them by Hatta · · Score: 1

      So don't wipe the card until you have two independent backups. Is that so hard to do?

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    14. Re:Wipe them by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      Exactly. Then we've recursively circled back to the original article.

    15. Re:Wipe them by dargaud · · Score: 1

      I don't even know what websense is. Should I be worried, and how does one 'beg' to be taken off their blacklist ? Is it because there are executables (freewares) or because there are some jokes ? I doubt it's because of the penguin sex picture !

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    16. Re:Wipe them by Tacvek · · Score: 1

      Your web site shares its IP address with over 4348 other sites, most of which are typo-squatting style parked domains run by the owner of the server your site is hosted on. However, one of the sites hosted on that IP address is probably the objectionable one.

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    17. Re:Wipe them by dargaud · · Score: 1

      OK, thanks Abreu and Tacvek for bringing that issue to me. I reported it to Websense and we'll see what comes out.

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  13. Horde! by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I horde my digital media! People. Do. Not. Touch. My. Stuff.

    Family members taking personal responsibility to know what is theirs and where it is is the only solution. There is no technological substitute for plain-old responsible living.

    Putting labels on cards if they know they'll forget is part of that. Putting their things in their specific corners of the shared domicile are manditory. I infest my bedroom and my computer desk. My dad inhabits his desk of the study and his side of the master bedroom. My brother floats between the sofa, the piano, and his room. My mom Supremely Controls the rest of the house, and of course has jurisidiction as to the aesthetics of everyone else's little corners.

    Do what you (hopefully) learned in kindergarten! Put things back where you found them! Develop habits! My keys always go with my wallet and phone and PDA on the articulating arm base of my computer monitor. I never wonder where they are: they're either on me, where they belong, or stolen.

    Life is very simple when you take responsibility. It's all black and white, easy to differentiate, and on the whole much more pleasant.

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    1. Re:Horde! by UncleTogie · · Score: 3, Funny

      I never wonder where they are: they're either on me, where they belong, or stolen. Life is very simple when you take responsibility. It's all black and white, easy to differentiate, and on the whole much more pleasant.

      Let me guess... there aren't any toddlers or shiny-object-hoarding pets at your house, either...

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    2. Re:Horde! by Captain+Splendid · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's hoard, not horde.

      Fucking WOW idiots...

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    3. Re:Horde! by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 1

      My parakeet would consistently toss shiny objects off the dresser and onto the floor (which was wildly amusing, then wildly painful when she did it when I wasn't watching, then stepped on some nailclippers - barefoot) but sadly she died this summer.

      My dog will be on anything edible (and many things that aren't!) like a liberal on a bailout bill if it's within "snout level". How do I not have my food eaten? I keep track of my stuff and keep it out of range of the dog.

      How did I keep track of my shiny objects? I knew where they last were, and the likely subjects that would have transported them (or in this case tossed them), and thus known where to look to find them.

      I guess it all ties into that whole "Who Moved My Cheese?" theory, that we grow accustomed to "things that are mine" being in their places. If they always are, then it's easy to find. When they're not, you have a centre to start searching from.

      It's easier to comb your house for you keys if you actually know where they were. If I hid your keys in your house, then said "go fetch!" it'd take you significantly longer (and not just because I can be really devious at hiding stuff in stupid places that people never look).

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    4. Re:Horde! by lordSaurontheGreat · · Score: 1

      Ironic, I've never played WoW.

      I know, what are the chances that you find the one person who hasn't played WoW (not even a trial, what can I say, the prospect of grinding levels bores the hell out of me, so I stayed the heck away from the game from the get-go).

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    5. Re:Horde! by castironpigeon · · Score: 1

      4 teh hoard!

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    6. Re:Horde! by Rogue+Haggis+Landing · · Score: 2, Funny

      It's hoard, not horde.

      I whored my digital media! People. Do. Not. Touch. My. Stuff. Because you have no idea where it's been.

    7. Re:Horde! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You live alone, don't you?

    8. Re:Horde! by mordred99 · · Score: 1

      Wow .. I did not even read (the WOW) as World of Warcraft. I know lots of people who say ... on a daily basis ... "Fucking wow, idiots" ... I guess I need my geek card returned for not catching that allusion :(

    9. Re:Horde! by FishAdmin · · Score: 1

      There is no technological substitute for plain-old OCD living....Putting their things in their specific corners of the shared domicile are manditory...My keys always go with my wallet and phone and PDA on the articulating arm base of my computer monitor. I never wonder where they are: they're either on me, where they belong, or stolen.

      There, fixed that for you...

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    10. Re:Horde! by ip_freely_2000 · · Score: 1

      No points to give for a +1 Funny, but lol.

    11. Re:Horde! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i whored mine.

      no one wants to touch my media with where it's been.

    12. Re:Horde! by fruity_pebbles · · Score: 1

      My keys, phone, wallet, etc. are always either with me or on top of the tall cabinet that my toddlers can't reach. Fortunately I don't have any pets to worry about (at the moment).

    13. Re:Horde! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Putting labels on cards if they know they'll forget is part of that

      BAD idea. Labels peel & end up stuck inside your electronics.

      Use a sharpie, if the card is black then get a silver one, etc.

    14. Re:Horde! by NoobixCube · · Score: 1

      For the Hoard! I have to protect my shineys...

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    15. Re:Horde! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's WoW, not WOW.

      Fucking /. idiots...

      FOR THE HOARD!

  14. What's to organize? by nsayer · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I haven't found a need to have more than one SD card per device - that is, one in the camera, one in the Wii (to back up the WiiWare), etc. You just empty them onto your computer every so often (this doesn't work for the Wii, but that hasn't filled up anyway, and it doesn't look likely to anytime soon).

    1. Re:What's to organize? by Jbcarpen · · Score: 1

      (this doesn't work for the Wii, but that hasn't filled up anyway, and it doesn't look likely to anytime soon).

      I'd be interested to know what type of copy protection they use to prevent this. I'd be surprised if it can prevent dd from making a proper copy and later putting it back on the card in a way indistinguishable from the way it was.

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    2. Re:What's to organize? by dougisfunny · · Score: 1

      The Wii does nothing special. It prefers FAT16 I think, but its just a series of folders on the SD card.

      Hopefully when they update it in a few months to allow playing stuff off of the SD card they'll add drivers for SDHC like the people for homebrew did.

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    3. Re:What's to organize? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep, that's what I do, plus an extra 1-2 lying around for when I go on vacation etc. The size depends on the device, but I make sure I won't really need a spare.

    4. Re:What's to organize? by jrumney · · Score: 1

      My spares are the ones that came with devices that I replaced with a larger one. I've got a couple of 256Mb, a 128Mb and I think I have some old 8Mb SD cards somewhere. Likewise I have a couple of old 64Mb and one 128Mb CF cards from an old camera lying around somewhere in case I need a spare card for the SLR in an emergency.

    5. Re:What's to organize? by Chaos+Incarnate · · Score: 1

      I'm still not convinced that they'll be allowing people to play stuff directly from the SD card; I think they'll just allow purchases to go immediately to card instead of being forced to download into main memory.

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    6. Re:What's to organize? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I have five (numbered) cards for my camera. Card 1 lives in the camera by default, the others are used when a shoot fills up the currently in-camera card.

      When the shoot is finished, I cycle the cards back through the camera, copying them to my PC via the camera's connection, deleting each card as I go. Then I do a PC back-up to an external device.

      Effect is that at the end of a shoot I have oodles of camera space free, and copies of the images on two seperate physical devices.

    7. Re:What's to organize? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      I haven't found a need to have more than one SD card per device - that is, one in the camera, one in the Wii (to back up the WiiWare), etc.

      So you're not an active photographer. Some of us actually do fill up cards fairly fast. Especially when you shoot RAW images (recommended on Pentax).

      I ended up using three 8 GB cards on top of the three 2 GB ones I already have for my K10D which is my main camera nowadays. So I no longer have to *always* bring a laptop with me.
      They are labeled on their reverse side with a white pen and have volume labels as well.
      And I carry them in a little neoprene pouch that lives in my photo bag.

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    8. Re:What's to organize? by MasterOfMagic · · Score: 1
    9. Re:What's to organize? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mod down. Not insightful, not helpful. This guy does not understand the problem or the context.

    10. Re:What's to organize? by dougisfunny · · Score: 1

      And then in order to play it you have to copy stuff from the SD card into the main memory? Everything I've read indicated that there will be a patch allowing playing from the card. But who knows.

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    11. Re:What's to organize? by Stavr0 · · Score: 1

      I haven't found a need to have more than one SD card per device - that is, one in the camera, one in the Wii (to back up the WiiWare), etc. You just empty them onto your computer every so often (this doesn't work for the Wii, but that hasn't filled up anyway, and it doesn't look likely to anytime soon).

      Hm? I have moved my Wii /private directory back and from PC and several other SDs multiple times with no problems. What can't be done is transfer an SD from one Wii to another, as they are encrypted to a specific console... in theory. (WAD files, they're not just for DOOM anymore.)

    12. Re:What's to organize? by citylivin · · Score: 0

      "You just empty them onto your computer every so often (this doesn't work for the Wii"

      ? Unless something changed in the year since I used a wii, you could very easily use SD cards for saves and stuff. I even downloaded save games to unlock different things. If they stopped this, I would love to know as I plan to purchase my own wii someday.

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    13. Re:What's to organize? by nsayer · · Score: 1

      I should rephrase it.

      It doesn't work in the sense that transferring the files to your PC doesn't serve any particular purpose, since you can't use those files anywhere except on the Wii on which you purchased them.

      This is in contrast to pictures and videos you take with your camera.

  15. Simple by djupedal · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Card wallet(s) and permanent marker...

    Best to plan on never getting one back if you loan it out.

    If someone shows envy, I turn the smaller SD cards into 'pass it on' gifts and buy myself another, larger one, asap.

  16. Treat Them as Garbage! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Treat your SD cards as garbage! No kidding!

    You do this by using a hard disk copy as the "master", and copying to and from SD, considering that the SD is always "ephemeral", and may get bent, may pop out of the device and be stepped on and lost, etc. So, it is never the host for any critical data for very long.

    And you make darned sure to back up the disk. These days my short-term backup medium is a couple of 1G or larger SATA disks, which I place in a front-loading holder and put in the fire safe after they're written. Long-term backup media is currently DVD, but will probably go to Blu-Ray when the media gets cheap enough. Some of these are stored in a relative's closet, because having all of your backups in one building is stupid.

    Bruce

    1. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by Psychotria · · Score: 5, Funny

      couple of 1G or larger SATA disks, which I place in a front-loading holder and put in the fire, safe after they're written

      Bruce, I have no reason to doubt you; but are you sure it's OK to put SATA drives into the fire? I know it's probably romantic to sit in front of a nice fireplace made from SATA disks, but wouldn't logs be cheaper (NO, NOT the /var/log kind)?

    2. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      I tried to moderate your posting, but there was no "yuk-yuk" button. Sorry!

    3. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by Psychotria · · Score: 1

      Heh. Sorry.

    4. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wouldn't logs be cheaper (NO, NOT the /var/log kind)?

      Of course not. It's Log by Blamo!

    5. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by Laurence0 · · Score: 1

      I do something similar - the only SD media I care about is photos from my camera, and those get copied to my laptop as soon as I get the chance (well, usually - sometimes I'm a bit slack about it). If I'm at home then part of the copying process is to then dump them onto my server across the LAN, which means that if either computer dies, I don't lose the photos. If I'm out with the laptop, this can sometimes take a bit longer, which is probably the riskiest part of the system! Every so often (generally when I think of it, which isn't really ideal!) I stick one of two laptop hard drives in my USB-IDE adaptor and copy them off again, and whenever I visit my parents, I swap which drive is left at their house.

      So, all my photos older than a month or so have an off site backup, and all the others are at least on two computers.

      I used to use CDs (back when my photos would fit on them!), but I've had a lot of CDs rot, so I moved to hard drives and then laptop hard drives, which I believe are more rugged. All my docs and photos will fit easily onto a 40 gig drive, the rest of the stuff on the computers is all replaceable - music, films, OS images etc - so I don't care about it as much, but these days laptop hard drives certainly go up to 250GB, and perhaps 500 (I've not looked recently) so my system is expandable.

    6. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by slmdmd · · Score: 1

      "Long-term backup media is currently DVD"
      ha, you got to be kidding, one scratch or a bad player and it is trash. I hope you are not an sys admin for any company.

    7. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by SpitfireSMS · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Im sorry, I cant see using DVDs as reliable long term backup.
      I have yet to buy a pack of DVDs that last longer than a couple months, even at slower burning speeds.
      The dvds from the last 100 pack I bought only last a week or two at the most, but I guess thats what you get for buying the cheapest ones you see.
      I doubt blank blue ray media will be any more reliable.
      And lets face it, burning 58GB of data will take far too long to do, especially if you have to burn at 2x or 4x speed to retain reliability like in the case of blank DVDs

    8. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by HardCase · · Score: 1

      "Long-term backup media is currently DVD"
      ha, you got to be kidding, one scratch or a bad player and it is trash. I hope you are not an sys admin for any company.

      Now that's funny, right there.

    9. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      ha, you got to be kidding, one scratch or a bad player and it is trash. I hope you are not an sys admin for any company.

      Oh. I suppose then you want me to use recording tape? It's much more reliable then? Even if it was, backup tape drives are horribly expensive and depreciate faster than fresh fruit. I finally demagnitized my Ontrak tapes, and gave them away at the electronics flea market, and that's the last tape drive I'm going to buy.

      Obviously my backups would be in better shape if I carved them into granite with a chisel and shot them into orbit. But the only practical thing I can do is to have multiple copies, at multiple locations.

      Bruce

    10. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 1

      Where is there a scientific evaluation of write-once DVD endurance? This was such a big issue with CDRs, but a quick net search didn't find much.

    11. Re:Treat Them as Garbage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Treat your SD cards as garbage!

      The system drive in my home server is an SD card you insensitive clod !

      (seriously I do take it as ephemeral)

  17. How many do you need? by Chris+Snook · · Score: 1

    My last smartphone case had two SD sleeves built into the cover. I had one card with music on it, and another I used for photos and file transfer. I never had a need for a third card to use both sleeves. My new phone uses microSDHC, so I got an 8 GB card (dirt cheap, even high speed) and never need to swap anything.

    I really have a hard time seeing a need for more than one additional card that doesn't live in the device, unless you're doing something that would justify a filing system anyway.

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    1. Re:How many do you need? by fm6 · · Score: 1

      I've had several phones and PDAs with external SD or MicroSD slots. These come with media players, and if you use them as such, and you happen to have an SD slot in your main computer (many laptops come with them) that's probably the fastest way to load media. And if you're going on a road trip, you'll want to load up a bunch of them in advance. Come to think of it, I'll be on a 12-hour plane ride next year...

      Same with cameras. Had a niece take a trip to Paris, and it took her less than a week to fill up a 2GB card.

  18. Seriously, obvious answers abound. by apathy+maybe · · Score: 1

    Other people have various solutions, label them, have only one per device (which isn't a solution much of the time anyway), don't share them among the family etc.

    But you have the solution in your very question: Something to hold them all.

    I don't use SD personally (though my next camera will be using SD, as Linux based devices can read them, unlike XD cards). My camera is an Olympus, a few years old now. The camera before that was also an Olympus. One of the best things that came with my camera was a little plastic thingy that holds six XD cards. It's great, I've got four cards, and only one can be in the camera at anyone time (obviously). Being able to carry so many cards, without worrying about them (being so small), especially when I won't be near a computer for a while, is wonderful.

    Even if you don't get a plastic or leather thingy that will specifically hold SD cards, it shouldn't be hard to find something.

    Anyway, a quick websearch turns up for example,
    http://www.jacobsdigital.co.uk/images/products/fullpics/00156001-00156250/156046.jpg
    http://www.jacobsdigital.co.uk/images/products/fullpics/00016251-00016500/16474.jpg

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    1. Re:Seriously, obvious answers abound. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      But you have the solution in your very question: Something to hold them all.

      And in the darkness bind them?

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  19. Watching other people's photos by cerberusss · · Score: 1

    Like a lot of my colleagues and all of my three children [...] We have also have run into some instances where it wasn't clear whose SD card was whose

    You will have to look at each and every photo on each and every SD card to figure that out. It could get nasty... Actually, come to think of it, that could be quite enjoyable as well!

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    1. Re:Watching other people's photos by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Never heard of the process of elimination, I suppose...

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  20. No Subject by Orphaze · · Score: 5, Funny

    Like a lot of my colleagues and all of my three children, I have several white, black, and blue pairs of socks for various purposes: school, work, dress, etc. These things are handy to have around, offer easy and significant comfort, but are very easily lost. We have also have run into some instances where it wasn't clear whose socks were whose, and have also started to see a need for a storage mechanism. I have seen sock 'drawers' and such, but have never seen anyone actually use one. So: How do you manage and keep track of your socks?

    1. Re:No Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that ain't the real problem, the problem shows itself after it comes out of the washing machine. which sock belongs to which pair.

      the only way I've seen it to actually solve it... buy new pairs!

    2. Re:No Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Put labels on them and stuff them in a drawer.

      This is seriously not a difficult enough problem to warrant a /. story..

    3. Re:No Subject by DavidD_CA · · Score: 4, Funny

      Like a lot of my colleagues, I have several white and black, and blue children for various purposes: school, work, social, etc. These things are handy to have around, offer easy and significant entertainment, but are very easily lost. We have also have run into some instances where it wasn't clear whose children were whose, and have also started to see a need for a storage mechanism. I have seen child 'drawers' and such, but have never seen anyone actually use one. So: How do you manage and keep track of your children?

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    4. Re:No Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't think socks are such a big problem. At least they don't get stolen by gnomes like the underpants!

    5. Re:No Subject by kklein · · Score: 1

      We have a winner!

    6. Re:No Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The black and blue children store their father in jail after the neighbor sees them.

    7. Re:No Subject by daveime · · Score: 1

      [Tweek's house that night, Tweek's room. Tweek is on the floor and the others are on his bed]

      Kyle: So what are we gonna say?

      Cartman: Why can't we just read the paper we wrote last time?

      Stan: 'Cause then they'll know we didn't write it, dummy! We have to be original!

      Kyle: Does anybody know anything about corporations?

      [the gnomes return, and Tweek gasps. The door opens and the gnomes enter, singing their theme:
      "Time to go to work, work all night Search for underpants, hey!"]

      Tweek: ["We won't stop"] Waah!

      Cartman: ["until we have underpants"] I think my mom is a corporation.

      Stan: ["Yum tum yummy tum day!"] Yeah, that makes sense.

      Tweek: You guys! Sshhhh! ["Time to go to work"]

      Kyle: Well, how about we just say, "corporates should be stopped"?

      ["work all night Search for underpants, hey!"]

      Stan: How do we stretch that into five minutes?

      Tweek: They're taking my underpants!

      ["We won't stop until we have underpants Yum tum yummy tum day!"]

      Kyle: [looking down] Will you stop with the underpants gnomes, Tweek?! We have to here!

      ["Time to go to work"]

      Tweek: [points at the gnomes] Aaaaaa!

      ["work all night Search for underpants, hey!" They open the bottom drawer and go for the underpants]

      Stan: What the hell? ["We won't stop"]

      Cartman: ["until we have underpants"] Well, I'll be damned.

      Tweek: ["Yum tum yummy tum day!"] That's my last pair of underpants!

      ["Time to go to work, work all night Search for underpants, hey!" The gnomes go for the door, and the boys hop off the bed to follow. One gnome stops and faces the boys]

      Kyle: Sshh, don't scare him.

      Stan: Hey there, little guy.

      Cartman: Bad! [whacks the gnome with a stick]

      Kyle: Cartman!

      Cartman: What?!

      Kyle: Why do you always have to hit stuff with a stick?!

      Cartman: Well, look at him. He's all, you know, uh luh look at him. [whacks him again]

      Gnome: Is that all you've got, pussy?!

      Cartman: What?! [advances]

      Stan: Hey, he talks!

      Cartman: Yeah, he called me a pussy! I'm not a pussy, you're a pussy!

      Gnome: You're a pussy, pussy!

      Cartman: Ey!

      Stan: Dude, why are you taking Tweek's underpants?

      Kyle: Yeah, look what you're doing to this poor kid.

      Tweek: Waaaah.

      Gnome: Stealing underpants biiig business.

      Stan: Business? Wait, do you know anything about business?

      Gnome: Sure, that's what gnomes do.

      Kyle: Show us.

      Gnome: O-kay. Follow me. [goes for the door]

      Cartman: Little pussy gnome. Don't call me a pussy, pussy gnome.

    8. Re:No Subject by adamofgreyskull · · Score: 1

      Like a lot of my drawers, I have several white and black, and blue colleagues for various purposes: school, work, social, etc. These things are handy to have around, offer easy and significant entertainment, but are very easily lost. We have also have run into some instances where it wasn't clear whose colleagues were whose, and have also started to see a need for a storage mechanism. I have seen colleague 'children' and such, but have never seen anyone actually use one. So: How do you manage and keep track of your colleagues?

    9. Re:No Subject by Cormacus · · Score: 1

      Actually, funny you should ask. I have n brothers (2 < n < 10), and we have always had a problem with telling whose socks were whose (esp. since they all go into the same loads in the laundry). So whenever new socks were bought, our mother would sit down at the sewing machine and quickly put in a couple of colored stitches in each sock - a different color for each son. Viola! (violin!) If you are wearing socks with someone else's color, you are wearing the wrong socks!

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    10. Re:No Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sock management is a serious issue. I, like many people, have many pairs of all identical black socks. To make sure each sock goes back with its original partner I have sitched coloured threads into the inside of each sock (same colour for each sock in the pair, different colours for different pairs). Crazy? No, just organised. How else could I ensure my socks are all rotated and worn evenly.

    11. Re:No Subject by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Put a ponytailer on each pair. Just buy a big bag of cheap rubber-band ones.

      Be forewarned that I've found rubber bands tend to tear holes in super-thin cheap socks, though.

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      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
    12. Re:No Subject by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Viola! (violin!)

      Voilà.

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      Alexander Peter Kristopeit bought his basement from his mommy for one dollar.
    13. Re:No Subject by Cormacus · · Score: 1

      Merci pour le correction. Je ne sais pas comment on peut faire des accents avec un clavier QWERTY.

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    14. Re:No Subject by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Your keyboard is capable of putting the letters (o, i) in the right order, though.

      (And /. recognises certain HTML character codes. Try &agrave;.)

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    15. Re:No Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is not reddit.

    16. Re:No Subject by Larryish · · Score: 1

      How do you manage and keep track of your children?

      With a Sharpie.

    17. Re:No Subject by Cormacus · · Score: 1

      Your keyboard is capable of putting the letters (o, i) in the right order, though.

      But my fingers clearly aren't.

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    18. Re:No Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need WIFE. WIFE finds, stores, and retreives socks. WIFE can often be installed with DRAWER.

      There seems to be an issue with the version of WIFE that I keep obtaining, as it rarely lasts more than 1 day. I wish you better luck.

    19. Re:No Subject by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like a lot of my colleagues, I have several white and black, and blue girlfriends for various purposes: massaging, stripping, social, etc. These things are handy to have around, offer easy and significant entertainment, but are very easily lost. We have run into some instances where it wasn't clear whose girlfriends were whose, and have also started to see a need for a storage mechanism. I have seen girlfriend 'drawers' and such, but have never seen anyone actually use one. I've also heard of people using handcuffs, but that could get messy. So: How do you manage and keep track of your girlfriends?

  21. Fire safe won't do much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

    Fire safes are generally designed to keep their contents below the combustion point of paper. Hard drives will melt at much, much cooler temperatures.

    1. Re:Fire safe won't do much by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 5, Informative

      Fire safes are generally designed to keep their contents below the combustion point of paper. Hard drives will melt at much, much cooler temperatures.

      Good point. You don't want to be in the sort of situation where it's necessary to call Kroll Ontrak to recover the drive. The fire safe will probably reach an unacceptable temperature in a structure-destroying fire. That's why I have off-site backups.

      Instructions to my wife and child in case of a fire are get out first, do not concern yourself about any disks. This even though some of the forest fires we are subject to give warning before the structure must be evacuated. My critical business data gets backed up out of the state every night, via the net.Bruce

    2. Re:Fire safe won't do much by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      They make fire safes that are specially designed to not reach the temperature where digital media will be harmed.

    3. Re:Fire safe won't do much by Bruce+Perens · · Score: 2, Informative

      They make fire safes that are specially designed to not reach the temperature where digital media will be harmed.

      Yes. I see two hours at 1850 degrees F, for a few hundred bucks. I guess this is a combination of insulation and thermal mass. One has a USB pass through on the safe door, but no power wire, and a resistive loss on the USB power line according to one reviewer, so the drive pocket in the safe is sized for 2-1/2 inch drives. It'd have nowhere to send internal heat, so that's just as well.

      This is making me really like net backups.

    4. Re:Fire safe won't do much by jimicus · · Score: 1

      They make fire safes that are specially designed to not reach the temperature where digital media will be harmed.

      This is very true, but such fire safes do not address the issue of the fire brigade not letting you anywhere near the building until it's cooled down and then when you finally do get in having what little remains of the roof falling on your head while you try to get to the safe.

    5. Re:Fire safe won't do much by YourExperiment · · Score: 1

      My critical business data gets backed up out of the state every night, via the net.Bruce

      That sounds like an excellent idea. Where can I get me a net.Bruce?

    6. Re:Fire safe won't do much by DavidTC · · Score: 2, Interesting

      I always thought people should install fire safes outside.

      Seriously. It's a safe. As long as it is actually secured to the ground via some means, no one should be able to get in. At least not without explosives, and if they're willing to do that, duh, they'd be willing to break some windows to get in, or take a chainsaw to the front door.

      Install it on, or under, your backporch. And you don't have to worry about 'how long' the fire will last. It might get somewhat hot, but obviously not as much as inside the house, and in a fire, the porch obviously goes out fairly quickly when firefighters show up.

      And, as you pointed out, you can actually get to it after the fire.

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      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
    7. Re:Fire safe won't do much by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As an aside: remember that not all fire safes are waterproof. I found that out after our house fire; the fire safe was in the basement, well away from the fire, but the water from the FD filled up the fire safe. I didn't find this out until 3 weeks later, when I opened the box and found all the documents had developed mildew. Luckily I had already made a practice of scanning important documents, and had been able to recover all my data from my hard drives.

    8. Re:Fire safe won't do much by DavidTC · · Score: 1

      Oh, and I should add, this only applies to people in climates where it doesn't get absurdly cold outside.

      Although many people in such areas have an outbuilding they can use, like a well house. It's not really the 'outside' part that's relevant, it's the 'Not inside a building that's going to burn for four hours' part that's important.

      At the very least, if you have to put it inside, put it against an outside wall. A connected garage would be ideal, unless you store flammable crap there.

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      If corporations are people, aren't stockholders guilty of slavery?
  22. Dump to disk by hpa · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Dump them to hard disk, RAID array, what not; then threat the physical media as transient and/or a backup.

    That way you can also index electronically and what not.

  23. Buy big, don't bother. by mcrbids · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I have a 6 MP digital camera, with a 4 GB card in it. I also have an old 1GB card, but I almost never use it - 4 GB is enough for me to take hundreds of pics and a few hours of VHS-quality video with no complaints. So I download my pics and stuff to my laptop every month or so, and it takes about 3 minutes - less than it takes to drive to my local Rite-Aid photo booth. (which is about 1.5 miles away!)

    I think a 4 GB card costs about $10 nowadays, if even that much. And I say "buy big" but 4 GB is pretty ho-hum nowadays. 4x the space costs just $25.

    Seriously, who cares? How many pictures do you TAKE?

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    1. Re:Buy big, don't bother. by jkerman · · Score: 1

      VHS quality? Shoot 1080 or 720 sometime. a feature found on fairly low end cameras these days. i believe a 4GB card is 9 minutes of 720p.

      thankfully, 16GB sdhc cards are ~$30 at newegg lately

    2. Re:Buy big, don't bother. by thegnu · · Score: 1

      VHS quality? Shoot 1080 or 720 sometime. a feature found on fairly low end cameras these days. i believe a 4GB card is 9 minutes of 720p.

      thankfully, 16GB sdhc cards are ~$30 at newegg lately

      Boy, that's less than a dollar per minute!

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      Please stop stalking me, bro.
    3. Re:Buy big, don't bother. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Some people do take a lot of photos, in which case the best solution I came across is an SD cards wallet and a simple filing method - empty cards facing forward, full cards facing backward, empty all of them when reaching one's computer.

      The only case I can think of in which SD cards are worth labeling is when they're used in place of disk-on-keys, with a card reader used to interface them to the computer. In this case, mark them with a pen, and that's it.

      Beyond that, moving SDs from device to device is - to my limited knowledge - pretty useless at this time, so I stick with one SD per device.

    4. Re:Buy big, don't bother. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it takes about 3 minutes - less than it takes to drive to my local Rite-Aid photo booth. (which is about 1.5 miles away!)

      Or you could simply buy a car that does more than 30 mph.

    5. Re:Buy big, don't bother. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you realize how long 9 minutes of video is, especially on a lower end consumer photo camera?

      How long is a song in a piano recital, a few plays of a sports game, singing happy birthday, panning around at a vacation spot? If 9 minutes isn't enough, simply get a bigger card or use a different device.

      Course then you might be like most non-technical people and actually never remove the card from the device and only download what pics/movies you've taken about once a quarter.

    6. Re:Buy big, don't bother. by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Maybe his car stops at red lights?

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    7. Re:Buy big, don't bother. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      When I went on holiday I took 2 x 4GB cards, 1 x 2GB, 1 x 1GB & 1 x 512MB cards, for both me and my partners cameras (10MP & 5MP). I thought that would be enough. We filled up all the cards and had to find a photography shop and buy more cards. Didn't take the laptop on holiday so didn't have an option to transfer the photos. At the time 4GB cards were about £40, (that's a days work after tax and NI) just buying a bigger a card might not be a solution for everyone. People have different needs for cards and sometimes 1, 2, 3 or more are not enough for certain situations and purposes.
       
      I personally use a good (unused) make-up bag to store my cards, it's well padded and lightweight.
       
      For management I would number each card and just use the next number up after the one in the camera has been filled. Keep a piece of note paper if you need to - to write down subjects of the photos next to each card number.
       
      For anyone who will ask how many photos do I need to take - I know I'm possibly a bit excessive but I like to take 2 or 3 of the same subject just to make sure I get a good one. Doesn't happen too often on holiday, but on a night out I often find that I come back with a few bad photos and always wished I'd have taken another one. Or not drank so much and was able to operate the camera correctly. But whilst I was on holiday I didn't want to waste my battery going through and deleting pictures as there wasn't necessarily an option to charge the battery. For example, I went through two batteries whilst on a day out at Warwick Castle, the peacocks kept moving.

  24. Get big ones by yog · · Score: 4, Informative

    4 gig cards are not that expensive and they hold an amazing amount of stuff. Probably 8 gig cards will be pretty standard in a year or two. So just get the largest cards you can afford and you won't need to have lots of extra ones lying around.

    My camera case has about 5 SD cards ranging from 512 megs to 2 gigs, and I really could replace them all with one or two 4GB cards. That's a lot of pictures (but we take a lot of video clips too).

    Why someone needs extra SD cards for a phone is beyond me. My 512 meg micro sd is larger than I would ever want in my flip phone. I guess a smart phone with a 3 megapixel camera would warrant something more capacious. So a 4 gig card should do it.

    This is really not rocket science. It's like those people who used to ask, how large a hard disk should I get with my new PC? Well, the answer was, and still is, as large as you can afford.

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    1. Re:Get big ones by thegnu · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why someone needs extra SD cards for a phone is beyond me.

      I bittorrent on my phone's internet, just to make back the money I spend on text messages the phone carrier doesn't have to pay for.

      No, but really, I put music on my phone. And if you've got a phone with a good camera in it, you can take loads of pictures and video. But still, I suppose, that's all manageable with a single microSD card.

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    2. Re:Get big ones by Z00L00K · · Score: 1

      The 8 gig cards are already better bang for the bucks than the 4 gig.

      But my strategy is to see the cards as temporary storage and nothing else. Dump the pictures to hard disk and a copy as soon as possible.

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    3. Re:Get big ones by an+unsound+mind · · Score: 1

      My phone has a 2gb card - and no MicroSDHC support - so it's as big as it can get.

      It's filled to a point where only around 200mb are free, the rest of it filled with software and music. If I could, I'd pack 16gb of music on it.

      Admittedly, I am a bit of a portable media whore. My Eee and DS have between them two 8gb, a 4gb and a 2gb card, and I have a 8gb stick and only one 4gb stick anymore - used to have two.

      But 8gb cards are 20e, 4gb cards 12e and 2gb cards 7e. And 16gb cards are 40e, whereas 32gb cards are 130e.

      Essentially - in SDHC cards, 16gb cards aren't a bad investment anymore, and 8gb cards are pretty much standard. In SD cards, obviously only 2gb is available - which is pretty cheap too.

      And how large a hard disk should you get with a new PC? Right now, 500gb. Get more of them if you need more space.

      Because the jump from 500gb to bigger sizes is ridiculous. And it's better to have more hard drives you have the space for rather than have everything on one gigantic hard drive.

    4. Re:Get big ones by ConanG · · Score: 1

      I use my phone as an mp3 player with it's integrated fm transmitter to listen to my music in my car. With a 16gb microsd card, it's got a decent amount of storage for that. I also have maps for a large part of the world (several gb of data) on there. I do a lot of world travel and I'm not sure where I might end up. Can't always rely on google maps.

      I'm up in the air at the moment over whether or not to get an N96 now, or wait for the N97 later this year. The big deal for me is the 16gb of internal storage in addition to a 16gb card. With that, I'll finally have a phone with the storage I want. Right now, I feel like I'm a little squeezed in.

    5. Re:Get big ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is a good reason for having multiple smaller cards instead of a single large one. Having the photos divided onto multiple cards means you don't loose all the photos when a card breaks at the end of the day.

    6. Re:Get big ones by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      4 gig cards are not that expensive and they hold an amazing amount of stuff. Probably 8 gig cards will be pretty standard in a year or two. So just get the largest cards you can afford and you won't need to have lots of extra ones lying around.

      My camera case has about 5 SD cards ranging from 512 megs to 2 gigs, and I really could replace them all with one or two 4GB cards. That's a lot of pictures (but we take a lot of video clips too).

      I have two digital cameras, one 6MP and one 7MP. Neither has SDHC support (both are super zoom compacts, one Fuji and one Konica/Minolta) so the maximum SD card size they support is 2GB. This is fairly typical; Some 7MPs, a very few 6MPs, and 8MPs are where SDHC tends to begin.

      Most truly pro cameras take CF, which goes up to 32GB (although the camera might cut off support at 2GB, or 8GB... consult your manual.)

      The real issue is that if you are storing data on CF you are basically fucked anyway. CF is a floppy. It's there to store the data just long enough to get it into a device or whatever. Store your data somewhere else. Transfer it ASAP. If you have an mp3 player and a shitload of cards, what you need is an mp3 player with a ton of internal memory, not a better way to manage cards.

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    7. Re:Get big ones by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      This is really not rocket science. It's like those people who used to ask, how large a hard disk should I get with my new PC? Well, the answer was, and still is, as large as you can afford.

      But bearing in mind that 640TB should be enough for anyone.

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    8. Re:Get big ones by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      So just get the largest cards you can afford and you won't need to have lots of extra ones lying around

      You just get the fastest cards you can afford. Capacity is irrelevant (well unless you have a cheap point and shoot to take on vacation, then you're fine with the 512 meg card you bought when you bought the camera -- and if you have one of those you're also too stupid to realize that in that kind of camera there's no diference between 2 and 10 megapixels because the optical quality is garbage).

      I find it hilarious that you say it's not rocket science and yet you have absolutely no clue what you're talking about or what the issues are. The only thing you mention is capacity and capacity is a complete non-issue.

    9. Re:Get big ones by Cybersonic · · Score: 1

      I have a similar setup with a 16gb SD in my EEE, a 16gb in my Dell Mini 9, 16gb in my Exlim camera, 8gb in my Palm Centro, 8gb in my Blackberry, 8gb in my GP2X, 8gb in my PSP, and 2 8gb SD in my DS (one in the top slot, one in the bottom)

      i have a feeling i will have a lot more gadgets after seeing what is coming at CES this weekend :)

      someone said it earlier in the thread - backup early and often! i learned the hard way in the 80s that regular backups are a necessity

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    10. Re:Get big ones by Cybersonic · · Score: 1

      Or, get an eye-fi SD card, which had Wi-Fi built into it. http://www.eye.fi/

      I have never used one of these however... sure sounds like a cool idea... i expect to see wifi built into the next gen cameras

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    11. Re:Get big ones by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I just looked at a refurb camera under $100 with wifi, I think it was a 6MP Nikon or something, on ecost. In order for it to be useful to help you not run out of memory, you need to have a more complex device with you, so it's a cute feature that saves you from needing your lost cables, but little more.

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    12. Re:Get big ones by steveo777 · · Score: 1

      My phone makes a convenient mass storage device with the 8GB micro SD. Slow as hell but I'm always carrying it and I'm rarely carrying anything else. Admittedly, the transfer speed is very slow, so I'm not going to plug it in and grab that 2GB file in a few minutes (I clocked a 600MB transfer of a movie in just under half an hour). but it works.

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    13. Re:Get big ones by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      I clocked a 600MB transfer of a movie in just under half an hour

      Half an hour? That's something like the speed of USB 1.0...

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    14. Re:Get big ones by steveo777 · · Score: 1

      I'm not kidding. It's supposed to be a 'class 4' SD Micro device. But I'm not sure if that really means anything because this thing is SLOW. I'm pretty sure it's not the phone's software/hardware because the old 2GB card (not SDHC) moved along much quicker.

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    15. Re:Get big ones by Tailsfan · · Score: 1

      Some devices like wiis do not take SDHC's. Also, don't look at me, I only have 2.

    16. Re:Get big ones by chihowa · · Score: 1

      I bittorrent on my phone's internet, just to make back the money I spend on text messages the phone carrier doesn't have to pay for.

      You laugh.

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    17. Re:Get big ones by Abreu · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ...well unless you have a cheap point and shoot to take on vacation, then you're fine with the 512 meg card you bought when you bought the camera -- and if you have one of those you're also too stupid to realize that in that kind of camera there's no diference between 2 and 10 megapixels because the optical quality is garbage

      Just wondering... in your opinion, where do cameras start having "non-garbage" optics? Do any of the "point and shoot" ones qualify? Or do you have to get a DSLR?

      Not meaning to troll or anything, but some comments in this story make it sound like the audio people who swear you never get any decent sound unless you spend thousands of dollars on it

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    18. Re:Get big ones by corky842 · · Score: 1

      Because the jump from 500gb to bigger sizes is ridiculous. And it's better to have more hard drives you have the space for rather than have everything on one gigantic hard drive.

      Looking at Newegg's internal 3.5-inch SATA hard drives:
      $55-100 for 500gb
      $95-220 for 1tb

      It's not that ridiculous.

    19. Re:Get big ones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      try the samsung innov8. 8mpx, 16GB on board, 32GB microsd slot. Garmin Mobile XT on symbian s60v3. Built in GPS. wifi+3G+quad GSM.
      bliss.

    20. Re:Get big ones by karnal · · Score: 1

      The real issue is that if you are storing data on CF you are basically fucked anyway. CF is a floppy.

      I somewhat understand your logic on this, but another part of me says WTF: I have a compact flash adapter and a 4gb high speed card (making a once-poor-man's flash HDD) and in this context, it's anything but a floppy.

      Are you referring to failure rates outside of a device? I can't see them being very high - in addition, if you have the right card, it can transfer as well as some of the 2.5" drives nowadays.

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    21. Re:Get big ones by Jason1729 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The difference between a mid-range Nikon lens and any point-and-shoot is just stunning. There's no games like "maybe your eye can't see it but a photophile can". I understand if I mention the size of the lens, elements, etc and especially price I'll sound like one of the audio fools, so leave that aside. I wish I had some samples on line, but when I take a picture of my dog with a point and shoot, you can see it has fur, get a notion of the texture of the fur, etc, but the fine detail is mostly a blur. When I use my DSLR, I can see every strand of fur. With a portait of a person, I can zoom on the eye and see every eyelash and the pattern of the iris.

      The reason I say no difference between 2 and 10 megapixel, when I zoom in a point and shoot 10 megapixel image, it gets blurry beyond recognition long before it pixelizes; the pixels are much finer than needed and only show that the lens fails. With my 12 megapixel DSLR, when I zoom, it's the pixelizing that breaks down the image and I can see the sharp image degenerating because of pixelization.

      All that only talks about the lens itself. When you get into the body, a point and shoot has a typical 6x8mm sensor. A DSLR has an sensor around 18x24 for a prosumer or 24x36 for a professional model. The effect is that each pixel is physically larger on the sensor, so it can gather more light and be less affected by noise. The result is a picture that's more vibrant and sharper.

      Then there's a lot of other factors, like the dinky flash on a point and shoot (and front light is the worst kind too - it makes an image look flat), I have a wireless external flash, I usually put it around 60 degrees from me and it brings out side shadows that emphasize surface texture and make the picture pop. Or I can put the flash 20 feet away pointing at the background -- ever take a flash picture of a person and have the background come out black?

    22. Re:Get big ones by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, he's referring to failure rates. Any sort of flash memory tends to be notorious for failing at inopportune times.

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    23. Re:Get big ones by ConanG · · Score: 1

      Seems like a more expensive and less capable version of the N96.

      + 8 mp camera (which I don't care about anyway)
      - fm transmitter (as much of a requirement as 16gb internal storage)
      - dvb reciever (nice to have when in EU)
      - N-Gage support.

      Thanks, but no thanks. I've got an s60v3.2 phone already. This wouldn't be much of a step up, besides the camera and internal storage. N97 on the other hand...

    24. Re:Get big ones by filterban · · Score: 1

      4 gig cards are not that expensive and they hold an amazing amount of stuff. Probably 8 gig cards will be pretty standard in a year or two. So just get the largest cards you can afford and you won't need to have lots of extra ones lying around.

      The downside to doing this is that you put all of your eggs in one basket. If that card is lost or fails before you back up the images, you will lose way too many photos. For a pro photographer, that is probably unacceptable risk.

      For casual photographers, though, buying the biggest card you can does make sense.

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    25. Re:Get big ones by jaguth · · Score: 0

      640k is all anyone will ever need for SD cards.

  25. Question to the poster... by Zapotek · · Score: 2, Informative

    Don't flame me but... have you ever thought of actually trying one of those SD card "wallets" you mentioned? o.O

    It seems to me that you posted a possible solution along with your question...

  26. I prefer the pill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm very cautious about data security, so I got this neat little pill that screws apart to store two microSD cards. It's made from a non-magnetic surgical alloy, so it won't set off metal detectors, and it's corrosion-resistant, so I don't have to worry about data integrity if I go out for Mexican food. Now I always have my most important data with me, and there's no risk of confusing my cards for someone else's. I got my girlfriend one too, and she loves it. I believe ThinkGeek sells them.

    1. Re:I prefer the pill by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

      let me just reconsider that "data security" vs. "mexican food" point...

      your data security might just go down the drain in a completly uncorroded capsule.....

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    2. Re:I prefer the pill by MadKeithV · · Score: 1

      Does your girlfriend's one vibrate? ;-)

    3. Re:I prefer the pill by BeaverCleaver · · Score: 1

      I couldn't find them at ThinkGeek. Anybody have a link? Sounds like a nifty, if paranoid, way to keep data "safe"

  27. Throw all of them away, except one by webreaper · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I only have one SD card.

    When it's full, I move the files off onto a large data filing and storage system that came with my PC (called a 'hard disk'). That renders the SD card empty again, and I can start filling it with data, photographs, video etc., and then repeat the process.

    The PC's 'hard disk' can be accessed by an 'operating system' which has lots of functionality that allows you to easily organise the data into hierarchical 'folders', making it easy to keep track of the contents.

    There. Solved that problem for you. Next?

  28. I use surface mount SD card holders by jkerman · · Score: 1

    when looking for a solution for my ds, it turns out its a real problem. there are almost zero microsd storage card solutions out there. not even the crappy wallets!

    So i ordered a pile of surface mount microSD card slots, glued them to the lid of the DS. instant solid storage. i even spent extra (i think $0.50 each total) to get the clicky ones. nice and solid. I plan on gluing a few of these to the top of my camera lens cap once i get around to ordering the SD card sized ones.

    1. Re:I use surface mount SD card holders by ErkDemon · · Score: 1

      What an excellent idea! :) Mod him up, somebody!

  29. The easy way out by davmoo · · Score: 2, Informative

    All of my various memory cards and flash drives, when not actively in use in a device, reside in a giant coffee cup on my desk.

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    1. Re:The easy way out by linzeal · · Score: 1

      Mine are ducktaped side by side on the back of an old notebook in my backpack. I peel off the duck tape and tada.

    2. Re:The easy way out by SimonInOz · · Score: 1

      Me too.

      It's a good job I don't drink coffee.

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    3. Re:The easy way out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      First, write an "If found please call ..." message and take a picture of it. I have a generic jpg I copy to all cards. Rename it so it's the first photo people see and leave it on the card forever. Then write down a title, name, etc. and take a picture of that. If I found a card I'd look at it and seeing a message like that I'd call the number.

    4. Re:The easy way out by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with using a text document?

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    5. Re:The easy way out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I prefer milk and sugar, but whatever.

    6. Re:The easy way out by TeknoHog · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with using a text document?

      What, are you stuck with a 1960 mainframe terminal or something? This is the 21st Century, you're supposed to use GUIs and multimedia for everything, whether or not they are appropriate.

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    7. Re:The easy way out by Larryish · · Score: 1

      whatcouldpossiblygowrong?

    8. Re:The easy way out by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      Well, I was going to suggest an autorun.inf, but I don't think that works for SD cards.

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  30. Leave them in the devices by Mike1024 · · Score: 2, Informative

    I have several SD , mini-SD, and micro-SD cards for various purposes: cameras, cell phones, my laptop, etc. [...] How do you manage and keep track of your SD cards?"

    I have a two-stage plan, which I thought was a fairly common technique:

    1. Make sure my flash cards have sufficient memory that I will not need to switch between cards for the same device. You know, 1000 full quality photos or whatever.

    2. Leave the cards in their devices and keep track of the devices by normal means.

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  31. Use one for everything by Lord+Bitman · · Score: 1

    Why have multiple SD cards per person? They're huge.

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    1. Re:Use one for everything by Jason1729 · · Score: 1

      How about because you're doing a professional photoshoot and taking thousands of picture in one day? And you don't want them all on one card anyway because you don't want to risk losing a whole shoot (and thousnads of dollars and your repuation) to a static spark as you take the card out of the camera? And for similar reasons you want to keep the images on the card until the project you took the pictures for is completed? And with this much money on the table the cost of the card is laughably close to 0 anyway? And for that matter, we're talking $100 cards, not $10 ones because speed counts.

  32. arts and crafts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Old school cigarette case + foam + x-acto knife is a pretty classy and secure meands of storing several sd cards. A business card case/wallet would also likely suffice, i was given a silver cigarett case a long time ago and never smoked.

    1. Re:arts and crafts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds fine. Except for the static electricity risk.

  33. Never Swapped Cards by DavidD_CA · · Score: 1

    I dunno, but I've never had the need to swap out cards.

    I have cards of various sizes in my camera, digital photo frame, and cell phone. But have never had the need to swap cards in and out of devices unless temporarily to load data.

    I buy cards that are large enough to hold all the data I could ever want for that device, and presto, no swapping.

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  34. Long Term Storage Solution by Edinburgh+BookMark · · Score: 1

    1) Toss them in a shoebox, the one you just emptied when you threw out all your old rolls of film and negatives. 2 ) When SD (and its relatives) are replaced by double-plus-good-nano-SD (or whatever), go back to step 1.

  35. rediculous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why is this on slashdot????

    This should be on some AOL board for christ sake.

    1. Re:rediculous by maxwell+demon · · Score: 1

      Why is this on slashdot????

      This should be on some AOL board for christ sake.

      He couldn't find the card with his AOL password.

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  36. I know how by gparent · · Score: 5, Funny

    I stored the info in a database on another SD card.

    However I mislabeled it and lost it.

  37. Are you serious? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Are you $#@!!~@ serious? I tag mine with wildlife tracking locators and stuff them in my sock drawer what the #$%$. Put a label on them, color code them with colorful dots, give them names, buy an SD card organizer from office depot, velco or 3M double tape em to the wall, radiation tagging like in the Dark Knight, buy a 32GB SD card and consolidate your data, keep your SD card in the device you use it in, punch a hole in them and hang it on a gold chain; that's fashionable, secret shoe compartment, home depot bin organizer, hollow out your bust of Richard Stallman and put them in there, remember where you put it........need I go on?

  38. Software solutions by TheBlunderbuss · · Score: 1

    For Windows, there's catfish http://www.equi4.com/catfish/index.html
    For Linux, there's cdcat http://cdcat.sourceforge.net/

  39. A SD Card case works well by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

    I have a little SD card case (from www.7dayshop.com) which is about the size of a cigarette case that can hold 8 cards but I use some of the space in it hold my blue tooth adapter.

    The good thing about it is that it is nice and durable which you want when you are lugging them about with your netbook.

    When I get to more than 8 cards I probably choose to upgrade some of my older cards to bigger faster versions and not bother carrying the older ones around with me.

  40. Learn from the past.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I do the same as I did with my floppy discs. Both the 5.25" and the 3.5" that is. And the solution? Label them.

  41. How do you feed/clothe yourself? by Joce640k · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If a few SD cards leaves you confused...

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  42. Uhhh.. by RichiH · · Score: 1

    Are you serious? Take a pen and write the name of the owner on them.

    Also, do you _really_ _need_ more than one card per device, two per camera? Keeping the old 8 MiB crap around might sound like a great idea to save money, but it's not. If you have many cards for device X, get a bigger card. If you have several of the biggest cards, you will have a case for the device. Stuff the cards into said case.

  43. SD wallets, why not? by ChrisRnlds · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Since you mentioned the SD card wallets, why not buy one and tell us if they help?

  44. Bring out your susie homemaker organizer skills by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    Start with a label maker, add some small boxes (I use an altoids tin).
    If you feel the need to personalize your altoids tin, try paints, glue and ribbons.
    If you don't like just cramming a pile of SD and uSD cards in an altoids tin, then cut out cardboard compartments to keep them neatly arranged.

    Or you could buy an SD card wallet from a camera store.

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    1. Re:Bring out your susie homemaker organizer skills by JBMcB · · Score: 1

      +1 Altoids tin. Just make sure you clean it out first.

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    2. Re:Bring out your susie homemaker organizer skills by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

      My SD cards are mintier than yours.

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  45. easy.... by nekrecart · · Score: 1

    Buy a 16GB card and move all data of your 32MB en 64MB cards to the new one. :)

  46. I don't have a SD card library by Sprotch · · Score: 1

    I just buy the highest capacity card available whenever I purchase a new camera, and I leave the SD card inside the camera. For instance, I recently bought a digital SLR with a 32gb compactflash card. That way I have enough storage for several thousand pictures, and never need to take the memory card out.

  47. Swallow them by Cornwallis · · Score: 1

    That way only YOU would have to deal with this shit. This isn't a story! (Nor is it an intelligent question.)

  48. How do you manage your keycache? by Fizzl · · Score: 1

    With the recent raise of locking devices requiring physical keys, I have found myself with bit of a problem. I have several keys, from my toolbox to my house to my yacht. 'i have heard people use some kind of rings to attach these keys to each other. But wouldn't this be bit of a problem when trying to share said keys with your family? And then what? Where do I put the ring then? Some people have something which they call "pockets" to put all kinds of little items to, but not me. I like to wear dresses but am manly enough not to carry a purse.
    So slashdot, help me out before I find some common sense.

    Yeah. This askslashdot is silly.

  49. News? by muzicman · · Score: 0

    I am really struggling to see how this is news.... or how it matters!

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    1. Re:News? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Like a lot of my colleagues and all of my three children, I have several socks , ankle socks, and longer socks for various purposes: walking, running, around the house, etc. These things are handy to have around, offer easy and significant confort, but are very easily lost. We have also have run into some instances where it wasn't clear whose sock was whose, and have also started to see a need for a storage mechanism. I have seen sock 'drawers' and such, but have never seen anyone actually use one. So: How do you manage and keep track of your socks?"

  50. "get big ones"? Calling Dr. Freud? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Get big ones"

    Maybe you should consider titling your next post a little less suggestively? This is Slashdot, you know!

  51. SD card library? Really? by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    I have 3 cards (I use them interchangeably between my MP3 player, digital camera, phone and PDA).

    Why do you need much more than that?

    Why aren't you dumping stuff to your computer's disk?

    What is wrong with you!

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  52. SD Cards ? by daveime · · Score: 1

    Slow news Day ?

  53. You mention the answer in your question by harl · · Score: 1

    I have seen SD card 'wallets' and such, but have never seen anyone actually use one.

    Use the fucking wallet.

    Seriously? You can't be the first? Why does the fact that you've never seen anyone else use a SD wallet mean you can't use it? Be a trend setter.

    Or how about you write your fucking name on the fucking card.

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  54. This isn't a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This guy really did just ask how to do something as basic as getting up in the morning?

  55. This is what I use for my SD cards. by Deb-fanboy · · Score: 1
    I travel with an Asus Eee and I keep a selection of SD cards with me for data-backups on the move, watching movies, and some more for mucking about with several operating systems.

    I bought two cases which look like this one http://www.7dayshop.com/catalog/images/products/prod_7daycase.jpg

    I have used these for 6 months and they have and coped well with my travels.

    My other sig is witty.

  56. Re:socks by SimonInOz · · Score: 1

    Socks are mysterious - I believe they are subject to similar laws to restaurant bills - and we all know where "bistronmathics" can lead to.

    Each time I run a wash through, I end up with a pile of "lonely" socks. I try to match some with previous lonely socks, and occasionally get [cue cries of glee] a match. But not often. I get mad and chuck the unmatched socks down the back of the cupboard. Occasionally I dig them out and have another go, giving in and throwing them out (which cues the reappearance of the "other" sock, to be mercilessly thrown out at once).

    So where do the socks go - do they hide in the washing machine? The drier? In someone else's sock drawer?
    Or, more likely, surely, in a previously undiscovered fourth sock dimension, little travelled by humans.

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  57. Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by beh · · Score: 2, Informative

    I agree that keeping track of memory cards isn't that difficult (I even actually use a card wallet for some of them - they work fine), especially if you label the cards....

    On the other hand - the rest of your argument is fairly meaningless given the basic question as you don't know the usage patterns of the person asking the question (and which unfortunately wasn't supplied) - and just assume things.

    For one thing - 'on 8 2-gig cards' kind of warrants the question on the best way to organise them as you are talking about sizable number of cards.
    On the other side - you just say '800 20 megapixel RAW images on 16GB(8*2GB)' sounds like an 'impressive' number, but it really isn't - for one thing the size of the raw images depends on more than just 20megapixel - I get ~1000 12megapixel RAW images on 2 8GB cards (at 14bpp). And while even a 1000 images sounds an impressive number - my 5 8GB cards weren't quite enough for a week in Istanbul (in total there I took about 55GB worth of photos). How much you can fit on what cards really depends on the actual usage pattern. Just that I shoot almost exclusively in RAW doesn't mean everyone else does...

    The only good tip I could give someone who juggles around with many cards - apart from labelling them, is to use card wallets and place cards depending on whether they are ready to use (empty) or full: simply put them with the label facing towards you if the cards are empty, and with the label facing away from you if they're full. That way it's easy to keep track of which cards in your wallet you can still use to take more images, and which cards are already full...

  58. Use cheap NAS for primary storage by mrthoughtful · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Don't use SD cards for long term storage. Use them for capture only.
    Having a wireless Network Attached Storage is a great way for all the family to store, without having to use just one computer for access. We have a 4TB Terastation Pro for the family - and HDV, DV, RAW, and JPG capture is stored there. Getting used to uploading a shoot as soon as arriving (back from holiday, or an event) didn't take so long. When going on holidays that will use more than a couple of 16G SDHC cards, we label them A-G and writelock them once they are finished. We writelock our DV/HDV tapes also. And we use a separate storage for empty cards/tapes than we do for filled cards/tapes.

    If your holidays are not remote, you can always use commercial online storage as a temporary cache. Also secure network connections to your own NAS is not really very hard to set up if you belong to the standard slashdot demographic.

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  59. Card sleeve by hcdejong · · Score: 1

    Every one of my xD cards came with a hard plastic shell that holds up to 6 cards securely. The shell is large enough not to get lost easily.

  60. SD card wallets by Nyckname · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I have seen SD card 'wallets' and such, but have never seen anyone actually use one.

    Be the first on your block. Start a trend.

  61. SD cards and Ninnle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use a database application running under the new NinnleWM for Ninnle Linux to keep track of the hundreds of SD cards I use.

  62. SD Chipp0rs by myspace-cn · · Score: 1

    You grab a handful out of the JAR, then you throw them up in the air, whatever lands on your desk, the first one you grab, that's yours, it's the one you'll be using today.

    Give me a break KDawson, you can't be serious, there are much more important things going on in the world today than your stupid SD card collection.

    Maybe you can figure out how to store them in your local polling place's Diebold Electronic Voting Machine? hmmm? Perhaps you'll remember next time we start an illegal war, break the oath of office, drown several cities, shread the Constitution, and steal 65 Trillion dollars twice (by making the people pay it back in tax.)

    I know of one dark hole you could store them in where it will never get lost. It's named after a planet. Can ya guess which one?

    Okay now my serious answer to the question, I manage my library by an air vacuum tube transport system, I simply place the chip into the slot in the front of my computer, and it is sucked up and delivered to a giant warehouse that is run by midget elfs behind my wall, they carefully classify each chip and store each one on steel shelves that are carefully grounded to the green wire. Problem is service is usually slow around Christmas. I never figured out why.

  63. Pelican Watertight Cases. by ammorris · · Score: 1

    The Pelican 0910 Memory Card Case! 8 x SD / 16 x Mini SD. And It's Sturdy.. Seriously. http://www.pelican.com/cases_detail.php?Case=0910

  64. Supersize it by kars · · Score: 1

    What's all this talk about 1 GB or 2 GB SD cards? Come on, 16 GB cards are available for as little as 32 euros, and the 32 GB cards ~100 euros. Buying a dozen of 16 GB SD cards costs less than 400 euros. Surely a professional could cough up that amount.

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  65. Manage? very easily... by hack++slash · · Score: 1

    ...I only have the one which is permanently in my Eee 701, and occasionally loses all it's data for no apparent reason (yay for backups)

    But USB memory sticks on the other hand, now you're talking! I wish they'd produce significantly increased capacity ones at very affordable prices so I could carry the same amount of data around in a single stick instead of spread across 2-4 sticks.

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  66. High Tech solution by jcrousedotcom · · Score: 1

    Fine point Sharpie Marker?

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  67. You can lead a horse to water... by kayakermanmike · · Score: 1

    but you can't make him drink. The same goes for organization. If you haven't seen people use walets, and don't think they will work, then most other solutions won't either. I use multiple wallets to manage my sd & cf (one for each) for photography. I know if I pull out the red one, it's for my sd cards, white cf. Works really well. Also, if the use for each card for static purposes put a label on them.

  68. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    You shoot in 14bpp? What is that, 256k colors? Perhaps you meant 14 bits per channel.

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  69. Solution by salesgeek · · Score: 1

    White lables, a sharpie, a box of index cards, a roll of tape. You can figure the rest out.

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  70. Why do you have so many to begin with? by jimfrost · · Score: 1
    Do you really have that many?

    Once the cards got into the multi-GB range I stopped needing to swap between them, excepting on my DSLR where I want a back-up card (and frames are 8MB apiece, so they eat up storage pretty quickly, although it's rare to fill a 4G card in a single shoot).

    So there's really nothing to manage. Leave the card in the device. Occasionally take it out, copy data to a computer, and use that for archive. Empty card and put it back in the device.

    The idea of managing lots of them seems to presume that the cards are good for long-term storage, which they're not. They degrade faster than any other long-term storage device. If you're trusting them for long periods you should reconsider.

    Regarding figuring out whose is whose, I write on their label with a marker. My last name and the date I put it in service. The date is important: I find that many of the cards start to have trouble in the 2-3 year range. I like to replace them every couple of years. Having said that I do have 4+ year old cards still in service, just not in anything I deem important.

    I don't get the "they don't fit if you put labels on them" comment I saw earlier; excepting microSD cards all of the SD and CF cards I've ever purchased came with a label already on it, and usually they have a spot to write on too.

    This just doesn't seem like a real problem to me these days. It's not like the days when a 32MB card was big....

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  71. try using one type by PermanentMarker · · Score: 1

    well when i saw all the different formats i decided that every device i would buy should be using the same type.

    So PDA Canon camera audio-tower computer all can use CF disk, that's limiting the chaos of many cards.
    Usualy they also just stay in their device, only the camera has extra CF's in its bag
    So when i go on vacaction i've got some reserve backup cards.

    This policy worked well for quite a while.
    Until i bought a Mp3 player, which used SD.. the audio tower could allready handle CF and SD but since the player is the only one using mainly that, there is till not much chaos there either.
    Basicly the scenario i use is every device one, and the remaining ones endup near my camera.

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  72. If the label is blank it's empty by sjbe · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Back when a 20MB hard drive was still a big capacity and everyone had zillions of floppy disks to manage I had a teacher give me a piece of advice I still live by:

    If the disk contents aren't important enough to justify the tiny effort of labeling the disk then treat the disk as if it is blank.

    Saves a lot of hand wringing about whether the files on the disk are important. If it wasn't important enough to take the very simple measure of writing a brief description of the contents of then you probably didn't need the contents anyway. If by some chance you did need the contents your organizational skills/system suck and you deserve the consequences.

    The problem should never be organizing SD cards however. The problem should be organizing and backing up the photos once you have downloaded the contents to your PC. Even if a photographer has 30+ SD (or equivalent) cards with him for a shoot, the contents should not remain on those cards for long after the shoot is done.

    1. Re:If the label is blank it's empty by clone53421 · · Score: 1

      If the disk contents aren't important enough to justify the tiny effort of labeling the disk then treat the disk as if it is blank.

      ...unless you found the disk in the computer lab, in which case you should always examine the contents before erasing it. You never know...

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    2. Re:If the label is blank it's empty by tepples · · Score: 1

      If the disk contents aren't important enough to justify the tiny effort of labeling the disk then treat the disk as if it is blank.

      So how does one label an SD card? Unlike floppies, SD cards don't come with write-on labels, and unlike floppy drives, a typical SD card slot isn't wide enough to take a taped-on label.

  73. really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Seriously /.?

  74. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by Rah'Dick · · Score: 1

    I also shoot exclusively RAW, but until very recently I only had a single 4GB card. When I was at SIGGRAPH this year, I took ~14GB worth of pictures with that card. Since I had my Asus EeePC 900 and a 2.5"-120GB-USB-Disk with me, I just moved all images to the HD every night.

    For organisation... someone else said it already. SD cards should be considered somewhat unsafe storage. There's no reason for me to have several of them, except old cards that I didn't throw away yet, because they're still functional - but I don't carry them with me, I just store them somewhere - empty.

  75. SDHC by LurkingOnSlashdot · · Score: 1

    SD cards that are higher than 2Gig are SDHC and most older devices do no support them. Before you get rid of your old cards, make sure your devices can handle SDHC cards.

  76. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by LordKronos · · Score: 1

    Actually, the majority of sensors used in cameras are Bayer sensors, and for those each pixel only captures one color channel. The raw conversion process then interpolates the other colors into each pixel.

    The only alternative I'm aware of that captures all colors per pixel are the Foveon sensors, and I think the number of cameras that have used those is small enough to count on two hand.

  77. stupid question... by capsteve · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    all the photographers i know have lots of cards, but they usually take the photos off the sd cards right away after the shoot. depending on the shoot, they will cycle cards out so they can develop early shots while taking additional photos. there was a time when a (studio or table top) photographer would call a film house to rush develop sheet or roll film to see how a shoot is going before committing to expending more film. this habit is still prevelent in the form of developing RAW images into jpeg or tiffs for quick proofing to inkjet printers.
    i guess the bottomline is that the SD cards are only an intermediate format and aren't considered permanent archive. anyone who keeps files on SD/XD/Flash/CF/fill-in-the-blank is an idiot. copy your file onto harddrive right away, burn them onto cd/dvd for archive(two copies minimum!).
    as far as memory card storage? i use an old cedar cigar box. it has a certain retro je ne sais quoi...

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  78. Mini/SD storage case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Pelican makes a case #0910 that works okay for SD and Mini-SD (8 SD, 16 Mini). However, there's no good solution for MicroSD that I've found, and since a micro can be made into a mini or SD with an adaptor, it'd be nice to find a case that could hold two dozen microSD's with a space for a mini and SD adapter, plus maybe one of those microUSB readers.

  79. You change out SD cards? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I just bought a few (and fast) PNY 16GB SD Cards on Newegg a few weeks ago for under $40. 8GB MicroSD cards should run about the same for a decent brand.

    That makes it: 1 SD for my HP mini, 1 SD for my camera, 1 spare SD for whatever else I come across, 1 MicroSD for my Blackberry, and 1 MicroSD for my DS. They stay in the devices at all times (except the DS when I'm loading stuff).

    Baring HD Video recording, why would you need to carry any more than that?

  80. Leave them where they belong by C_Kode · · Score: 1

    My camera has one and it stays in the camera. My Blackberry has one and it stays in my Blackberry, and all other devices are the same way. The closes thing I have to a problem is when I upgrade to a larger card for say my Blackberry. Then it's just like kids clothes. A hand-me-down occurs, and the smallest one gets tossed into a small container of old SD cards. Those usually just sit and do nothing unless I find someone who needs one.

  81. Re:Archives by conureman · · Score: 1

    I fill and store my SD cards. I am hoping to start a tag and list system to keep them organised, not critical yet as I've only got about a half-dozen. (I lost a bunch with the camera & bag that Toad got when he took my Volvo out for that wild ride.) IMHO a flash ROM that's been written to once only is adequately reliable to back up the .jpgs that have been stored on HDDs. I have dated each SD to when it was used, I'll start a file describing the contents. Real soon.

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  82. Best way I've seen by Daas · · Score: 1

    This guy here :

    http://www.prophotolife.com/2008/12/19/atn-35-my-first-olympus-dslr-an-e520/

    Uses 35mm slide protector pages, they fit perfectly for CF cards, but you could still use them for SDs.

  83. I have a ton of flash drives... by HaloZero · · Score: 1

    ...and no data on any flash drive is ever permanent. Usually, the first thing I do with one before I start using it for whatever task I've picked it up for is wipe it. There's a folder on my file server of .dmgs - snapshots of 'important' jumpdrive stuff that I'm not confident is being replicated everywhere. But I have convinced myself that ever an SD card, CF card, USB drive, whathaveyou is found, the data onboard is transient.

    These cards are not intended as long-term storage, they're portable medium until you can get the data onto something with more iron. If the data is important to you, transfer it to the drobo, or file storage, or CD or something. Just not on the portable media.

    It's the same old story: backup, backup, backup.

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  84. Eye-fi - Wireless SD by xonar · · Score: 1

    I can't believe I don't see more people using this.

    Eye-Fi

  85. dewey decimal system. by nathan.fulton · · Score: 1

    I use the dewey decimal system.

  86. If only there was a larger storage medium... by theinvisibleguy · · Score: 1

    say about 3 and 1/2 inches, big enough so it wouldn't get lost and could be easily written on with identifying information.

  87. Re:SD or CF by conureman · · Score: 1

    All the cheap, consumer grade stuff have is SD. If I had the money, I'd get nothing but CF for the speed. My little snapshot camera does not support that, but I always get the "fast" SDs.

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  88. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    by "raw conversion process" you mean "what happens in the camera before it even produces a RAW image", don't you? Or are the RAW images really RAWer than I thought?

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  89. Re:socks by mightybaldking · · Score: 1

    I've actually solved the sock problem. When I take out a load of laundry and fold it, I put any single socks right back into the dirty laundry queue. Since I flush the laundry queue at least once a week, eventually the socks will be matched up. If a sock sticks around in the queue for a few weeks, eventually the pair will be declared corrupted, and I'll throw it in the rag pile, where it can be used as a shoe or silver polisher. I have yet to recover a pair from the rag pile.

  90. I don't *have* an SD card library.... by Liet+Hacksor · · Score: 1

    ... you insensitive clod!

  91. Like most folks... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I keep one or two cards as backups in the cases I carry for each device that uses them. Current photos, music, videos, etc., I keep organized on my PC's harddrive and I keep external USB harddrives, including a couple of portables for when I travel, as backups for everything.

  92. Re:Pix by conureman · · Score: 1

    I feel a little out of it, on this thread, with my leetle camera, but I get 1600~ pix on a 2GB SD card. That is quite enough to overwhelm my filing system, I don't even use any bigger ones.

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  93. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by clone53421 · · Score: 1

    Raw image format:

    A raw image file contains minimally processed data from the image sensor of a digital camera or image scanner.

    Raw formats' purpose is to faithfully record both 100% of exactly what the sensor "saw" (the data), and the conditions surrounding the recording of the image (the metadata).

    That said, why would the camera interpolate extra data into the file? It would just take extra space and could equally well be done on the computer.

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  94. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by LordKronos · · Score: 1

    No, the raw conversion process is what happens on the computer (well, it happens in camera when you shoot jpeg, but since jpegs are only 8 bit anyway, that's not relevant to this discussion). The raw file itself is simply the raw data read straight from the sensor (and the EXIF metadata). No processing has been done other than lossless compression. Thats why a 12MP RAW image is typically only 12-20 MB. Once you interpolate the channels and add the extra 2 bits to round up to an even 16 bits per channel, you typically end up with a TIFF file that's 40-70MB, even with compression.

  95. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Minimally processed, I just didn't know how much processing was going on. I do seem to dimly recall from somewhere in the past that some camera companies have gotten flamed for having not-so-raw-RAW images, but I didn't remember the details (I don't actually HAVE a camera with RAW support, hence my confusion. Seems kind of lame that my super-zoom compacts don't have it though. I guess they just don't want you to see just how bad the lens distortion is.)

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  96. Business card book. by ghostis · · Score: 1

    For large quantities of cards...

    Business card books.

    o Keep each card in its case for extra static protection.

    o Label each card.

    o If you need more metadata for a card, write in on a blank business card and slide that in behind it.

    My .02,

    -Adam

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  97. For me, not that many but enough. by jskline · · Score: 1

    I put them all into a zip-able anti-static bag, and that then is placed in the side pouch of our camera bag. The only ones not in there are microSD's that are installed in my sticks that stay with the laptops. Not lost one yet.

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  98. Why Multiple CD Cards? by LandDolphin · · Score: 1

    Transfer the files to your computer then back them up however you wish. Why would you use an SD card for storage?

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  99. Labels etc. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    I use one of those handheld thermal plastic label printer thingies to print labels for SD and CF cards. This is probably not an optimal choice, but many of the cards still seem to have lots of useless vendor-supplied graphics on the card that make handwritten labels hard to read, and using the small font and multi-line mode, you can get several words on the label. Most other labels (i.e. paper) are too thick and will cause mechanical issues when inserting or removing the card.

    The two high speed CF cards for my 40D are labeled "The Card" and "The Other Card". This makes it easy to tell them apart.

    I don't use anything smaller than SD, and definitely prefer CF.

  100. Âa Sharpie? by lsolano · · Score: 1

    How can it be "buy a sharpie", an answer for a /. story?

  101. Think beyond just SD cards by moo-shim · · Score: 1
    This harkens back to the bad old days of 5 1/2" or (SHUDDER) 8" floppy disks. Yes, I am dating myself (heck I STILL have card decks and paper tape programs to scare the youngsters!). There are wider considerations that one should work through:
    1. Archival/backup for when the darn thing goes bad
    2. Inventory of what is where (duplicate detection?)
    3. Simplification of clearing off the card

    There are others, but this is enough. You have to make one major assumption: You are going to lose this card, and it will be at the worst possible time. Whether it is to the washing machine, or just plain wearing out of the card itself, you have to prepare for this.

    So that being said, there are good programs out there for achival. So what would you all recommend?
    I have used Adobe, but what else is there?

    Also can we widen this a bit to indexing and archiving other forms of data, such as source code, music, text documents, and so on? Yes, Google has given us really nice tools for finding the stuff, but....

  102. Re:Archives by LandDolphin · · Score: 1

    Why though? There are much better solutions to store the data then an SD card.

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  103. I hope I see something novel by mzs · · Score: 1

    I simply use a sharpie to label them and I keep them in a draw string pouch in a drawer nearby the TV when not in use. I keep the card reader in there too.

  104. Label them electronically? (there is space inside) by barry61 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I don't find physical devices too hard to keep track of, but which slot are they attached to on the workstation? I find it easier to keep track if I add an Autorun.inf file and an icon (image.ico) to the root directory of the card or stick or whatever. I have never had problems with these files in the desitination device (camera, Mac, Zaurus etc.) but they make handling stuff on the PC which has a lot of attached devices a lot easier. You can iconise pictures with Irfanview - a 16x16 pixel block is all you need, and I guess anything distinctive will do (but I like to make 'em pretty!). The text in your Autorun.inf should look something like: [autorun] icon=image.ico label=Corsair stick (4GB) - you can add your name to the label if that helps sort out ownership.

  105. Wallets by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I actually use the wallets, on top of that I label each card with it's intended purpose (slow cards for storage, fast for the camera) and use a labeling scheme for the volume name that helps me see which is which. I. E. books - 1 for the ebook reader, camera-2, .....

    It takes a fair amount of work but it might be the way to go for you as well.

  106. Small zip-lok by thethibs · · Score: 1

    Go somewhere that caters to coin collectors and buy a bunch of 2" zip-lok bags. You can write on the bag with a ball point or marker.

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  107. I keep mine on my belt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I keep mine in an onion hanging from my belt.
    And I like it.

  108. by Anonymous by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Get or make a small wooden box with an open top that is a little wider than an SD card. Insert dividers as needed for labels(i.e. "RHS Photo Shoot"). Then you can just load it up like a file cabinet.
        For organizing mini and microSD cards you can probably use a microscope slide case. Since microscope slides are 1mm thick and mini/microSD cards are 1mm thick they should fit in the slots the same. Then just follow the same labelling methodology.
        Since SD and SDHC cards are about 2.1mm thick they might not fit in common microscope cases, but the first solution should work pretty well for these.

  109. Wiping? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have another question, should I be wiping from front to back, or back to front? What should my friends and family be doing? What if we get mixed up and they wipe me?

  110. simple solution! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Go with Apple products. They don't accept memory cards. Hence, no problems with managing the cards and no added expense.

  111. Re:Labels and Stereotypes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But my SD cards are all black, you insensitive clod!

    That would be "African American" you insensitive clod!

  112. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by treeves · · Score: 1

    I don't think you'd need RAW files in order to see lens distortion. In-camera processing does not correct lens distortion AFAIK.

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  113. SD Cards by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Buy the biggest SD card that your device supports and always leave it in the device. If you need spares, keep them in the case where you store your device.

    This sounds like the age old question posed by teenagers in movies: "Teen: Mom, I can't find anything to wear!!!", "Mother: If you picked up your clothes once in a while, you'd be able to find something...." Same thing applies to our gadgets and their memory cards, pick them up and put them away. As simple as that....

    David

  114. SDHC incompatibility by tepples · · Score: 1

    4 gig cards are not that expensive and they hold an amazing amount of stuff.

    But 4 GB cards aren't compatible with nearly as many devices because the SD protocol changes for cards over 2 GB.

    1. Re:SDHC incompatibility by joel48 · · Score: 1

      Note that also, there exist 4GB SD cards as well as 4GB SDHC cards, however for devices that don't support SDHC, support for SD cards larger than 2GB is hit or miss. The SD standard actually supports up to 4GB, but as happens all too often, signed vs. unsigned values are ignored/interchanged and some devices don't support the 4GB standard SD cards.

    2. Re:SDHC incompatibility by tepples · · Score: 1

      The SD standard actually supports up to 4GB

      Citation needed. If this is true, I'd like to hear about it.

      but as happens all too often, signed vs. unsigned values are ignored/interchanged

      That, and a lot of devices use only FAT16, which ordinarily doesn't allow partitions bigger than 2 GB.

    3. Re:SDHC incompatibility by WuphonsReach · · Score: 1

      Very hit/miss.

      I have a Canon PowerShot SD550. The 2GB cards work perfectly fine. The 4GB SD cards appear to work, but don't actually work (things go screwy once you exceed 2GB of data on the card).

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  115. Re:socks by YrWrstNtmr · · Score: 2, Informative

    So where do the socks go - do they hide in the washing machine? The drier? In someone else's sock drawer?

    The dryer does actually eat them. Some years ago, our drier died. I thought..."ok, I'll take it apart and salvage any useful parts. motor, pulleys, etc".
    Upon taking the drum out...there was literally a double handful of singleton socks inside the box, and a coupla dollars in coins.

  116. SD / SDHC limits by ErkDemon · · Score: 2, Interesting
    1. "Standard" SD card ranges go up to two gig.
    2. If you buy a card that's four gig or more, it'll almost certainly be SDHC
    3. Some manufacturers of gear with SD cards slots specify that their gear is only specified to be able to take cards up to one gig.
    4. Although four gig "SD" cards tend to be SDHC nowadays, you can still get hold of non-SDHC versions if you look around. Memorybits.co.uk do a 'special' 4gb card that's non-SDHC.
    1. Re:SD / SDHC limits by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nicely summarised, thanks for clearing this up.

      - DugUK

  117. Management versus availability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't know if management is really the issue as much as having the right card at the right time. For this, you should check out http://www.eporterinc.com/. These cases carry 3 SD cards very easily. You could get several as they come in different colors. Put family stuff in the blue case, and work stuff in the silver case or something like that. Anyway, they make it so you always have your memory with you. In fact, the company tag line is "Don't lose your memory!"

  118. SD card storage systems by ErkDemon · · Score: 1
    Craft shops sell multicoloured packs of A4 or A5 foam sheets, the same thickness as an SD card. If you set a row of SD cards in a line, tilted at an angle, that gives you a template to cut around, where each card will fit snugly into the hole you cut in the foam sheet without rattling about.

    So you cut out the holes with a sharp craft knife or scalpel, then glue the sheet to some sort of sheet, backing board or plate. Whether you then glue a second sheet of clear flexible plastic on top with suitable slits on top, or have rigid sheets of acrylic front-and back, or some other variation, depends on how and where the storage system is going to be used. Some people might want A4 storage sheets that will match their existing A4 negative storage-sheet system and binders, others might want a smaller format (A5 or Filofax). The smaller sizes would be useful if you're taking sheets of SD cards out into the wild.

    There are credit-card-sized SD card holders available commercially that are great for carrying cards in your pocket, but not so good for filing.

  119. Why Why Why by RalphTheWonderLlama · · Score: 1

    I just have to say this is a stupid slashdot story. Why is this on here? Figure it out dumbass.

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  120. Professional Photographers Method by umStefa · · Score: 1

    Well as a photographer shooting weddings I generally carry 8 SD cards on me at any given time. When I load them into my SD case I put them all label up to signify that they are empty and ready to go. As I go through cars during the course of a day I put my spent cards back into the case label down to signify that they are no longer empty and need to be downloaded to the computer.

    Most of my colleagues use the same method with their SD or compact flash cards.

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  121. Re:socks by DavidTC · · Score: 1

    It's always amazed me that people think socks just magically disappear.

    Obviously, the dryers are shredding the socks, probably one a load, and producing lint with them.

    I mean, where do people think that 'lint' comes from? Thin air?

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  122. Use a fine point sharpie by sjbe · · Score: 1

    So how does one label an SD card

    With one of these. Should have thought that was obvious...

  123. Throw them away. by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    You need one card per device. Every 6 months (or every new device) you buy one with double the capacity. It costs you the same as the last one and you have the extra space you think you might need. Keep the old one as a blank backup, in case you happen to need more space all of a sudden and find your current card full and a laptop to dump to unavailable. Hell, if your devices use the same size card, you only really need one emergency card, and you clock through the ones you have every 6 months, putting the new, big one in the "prime" device and pushing the stack down through the less used devices.

    I have uSD in 1, 2, and 8 GB varieties, and will pony for a 16 when they hit $40 (then practically my whole music collection will fit on my phone)
      The 2 is in a super small usb reader (Adata) that resides in my wallet for emergency transfers
    I have SD in 1,2,4,8, and now 16GB for my SD cameras, of which I "own" 3 (two for work and one for my daughter). Yup, the 16 is in mine, 8 in daughter's, 4 in the second work camera, I carry the 2 as a backup.

    Nothing resides on my SD cards for longer than necessary, because they have no way to get automatically backed up. Everything gets dumped and deleted from the SD asap. The files then reside on a redundant array (mirrored drives on W2003 or an Unraid array), and get backed up to a removable drive every night with syncback.

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  124. Simplify Your Managment Strategy by digital+photo · · Score: 1

    As others have noted, it's fairly straightforward:

    1) label your cards. Use a perm marker, not a sticker.

    2) backup your cards to a central storage, like your computer's drive, as well as onto DVD(s).

    3) Reduce the number of actual cards you keep around by moving data and consolidating onto larger cards and getting rid of the smaller and older cards. Why risk card failure or worse yet... cards that are no longer supported?

    I used to have to manage around a dozen cards, but over time, I've learned that the best way to keep things manageable is to keep the card count down:

    DSLR: 4 cards ( 16 GB compact flash cards )
    Digicam: 1 card ( 8GB SDHC )
    Celphones: 2 cards ( microSD / SDHC 4GB )

    No dinking arond with 512MB or 1GB cards. Just have the one card and backup/flush the data when you don't need it anymore.

    While you CAN archive onto flash media, it is much more expensive to do that than to archive onto say... a pair of external USB hard drives. As you outgrow them, migrate to a new pair of larger drives, wiping and reusing the previous pair for something else. This way, you always have two seperate copies. Keep one in a safe place, until you need to add files to it.

    You can also make use of a centralized storage mechanism in conjunction with an online data warehousing service like Amazon's S3, which charges on the order of $0.10-$0.15/GB to store per month.

  125. here's how by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have lots and lots of SD and SDHC cards for our cameras. Fortunately, the 3 cameras we have all use the same flash card format (and battery).

    My Canon TX1 can burn through memory at an alarming rate when taking Hi-Def video. For a recent wedding shoot, I had 3 8GB cards, 3 4GB cards, and a 16GB card. I have a little $2 SD card case I got at Wally World that holds 8 cards. I grab this if I know I'll be shooting more than an hour of video.

    Otherwise, we just keep all the cards, batteries, and battery chargers in 1 communal box, with the rule that if you grab a fresh battery, you must immediately put your old one in the charger. For cards, we generally use a PC program called "Stamp 2.8" that pulls the files off the card reader, renames them according to the date and time they were taken, and clears the card for re-use.

    I like having the "useless" smaller cards - they come in very handy for archiving stuff. The 32 MB card that came with the camera is useless for picture taking, but I can copy 15 years worth of email onto it and throw it in my safe deposit box.

    To answer the original question - a $2 zipper case from Wally World.

  126. Seriously by tknd · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I had this problem and realized that the amount of time I spent sorting socks was ridiculous. The solution? Flatten your socks down to 1 or 2 types (white and black) and now the sorting problem goes away. Anytime your socks start developing holes or you feel you need to replace them, throw out the entire batch and buy all identical ones. By now you don't even have to pair up the socks when sorting the laundry. Just throw them in the drawer/basket and you're done.

    1. Re:Seriously by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My solution is to pair them when I take them off, they go through the wash as a pair and come out as a pair and I spend very little time pairing socks.

  127. Metal case by existentialentropist · · Score: 1

    I use SDs for my Palm for music and have found a metal case (which holds 8) works great. Photo stores sell them.

  128. Finally dumped optical media, now dump SD's ! by coretx · · Score: 1

    Why carry several different format cards around ? Get a BIG NAS, and a wifi SD card, and acces your network. No more fysical trouble ! - I am a eurofag == bad spelling && grammar -

  129. Re:socks by SimonInOz · · Score: 1

    Disappearing socks turned into lint? - nonsense. If that were so, it would happen steadily (and it does, you find it on the dryer filter). Thus socks would gradually get thinner - and they probably do. But to suggest that the dryer picks on one sock and eats it is less weird than my theory of an alternative sock universe.

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  130. Slashdot insists I have a subject line by arodland · · Score: 1

    The cards for my camera are in my camera bag. The cards for my other devices are in the devices themselves -- I can't fathom needing more than one card for anything that's not a camera.

  131. Fool proof storage by NoobixCube · · Score: 1

    I have a carefully constructed hill of SD cards, flash drives and DS games. I never lose any since removing one from the hill could make the whole thing collapse. However, when things are successfully removed, they are placed at the base after they're used, a little to the right of the pile, so as things are used and replaced the hill creeps right. I used to do the same with CDs and DVDs, but they're much less... robust... Didn't damage any discs or their data like that, but to look at them you'd be surprised they held any data at all.

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  132. USB SD thumb drives, GBP 1 by ErkDemon · · Score: 1
    My local Poundland sell a transparent USB thumb drive that lets you pull the cap off the end, plug in an SD card and replace the cap.

    So the SD card is in a sealed dustproof enclosure, you can still read the SD label, and you can plug the whole thing into a USB port.

    It costs one pound.

    I ended up buying a batch of them, and a batch of cheap SD cards, and colour-coding the cards, and I use them for stuff where I want access to the latest versions of files on multiple computers, without necessarily wanting those files stored permanently on certain machines. I back them up, of course, but I find that "SD-in-USB" is a good mobile transfer medium for working files. I have one for computer graphics (where I might be updating source code and rendering on different machines), one for job info and cvs, one that I was using for coursework, one for sales data and marketing info, and so on.

    Also, my Mum has one of those Kodak picture frames (which can take one SD card and one USB drive), so an SD card in a USB enclosure gives maximum flexibility. And she's now got one of those ASUS Eee machines, which also has an SD slot & USB. And I just got an Eee Box bolted to the back of my monitor for wordprocessing and browsing, and that has an SD slot, too.

    At some point, I'll probably get a new hifi with SD slot(s) rather than an optical drive. All my CDs are on MP3 anyway, and some of the recent digital radios can record direct to SD. Some SD-equipped players seem to have filesystem limitations, but it wouldn't be too much of a hardship to have different categories of music on their own cards.

    So yes, it is quite possible to end up with a lot of SD cards, even if you don't have a camera or mobile that takes them (I don't).

    I'm not using these things because of a lack of other options ... I have a serious firewire-based multi-HD storage unit for backups and backups-of-backups ... but I like to keep it switched off whenever possible, to reduce mechanical wear and tear (and the risk of accidents). I also usually choose not to network my "fast" PC, because I like to keep it running a minimal set of drivers and disconnected from the internet. I've also ended up with three mobile 2.5" HD caddies, which are handy and portable ... but if anything, they hold too much data, and are too "delicate" to be treated casually. So for relatively small amounts of data, it's nice to have a format that's cheap and shockproof, runs on anything, and lets you take small datasets out and about without carrying a load of unnecessary info with you that amounts to a copy of your entire life history, and "sensitive" info.

    I used to use the "normal" thumb drives for this, but it annoyed me that they were all different designs and shapes and colours, and had inconvenient capacities, and it was difficult to remember what was on what drive at any given time. So these little one-pound "see-through" SD USB enclosures have been great.

  133. Re:socks by DavidTC · · Score: 1

    It doesn't pick one sock.

    Socks are destroyed in a quantum-mechanical manner. Socks don't specifically disappear, or slowly disappear, they just disappear in general, like 'an electron' jumps from one energy level to another, although we all know it's not possible to tell electrons apart.

    It's a statistical disappearance, where 'each sock' (Although we know that socks are, while being washed, actually 'waves' that are indistinguishable from each other.) has something like a 5% chance of totally disappearing, but lint is produced continually from the probability that a sock vanished.

    Sorta the opposite of the photovoltaic effect, where the gradual absorption of electrical energy results in the random emission of entire photons.

    Sometimes, at the end of the wash, enough lint was emitted that the system finds itself minus a sock when you collapse the waveform by opening the door.

    This is, incidentally, why you shouldn't look inside a washer while it's running...you'll lose a lot more socks, up to one every time you peak in.

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  134. Re:socks by SimonInOz · · Score: 1

    Now you're talking! Quantum-mechanical socks, yeah baby!

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  135. Why would you use an SD card for storage? by ErkDemon · · Score: 1
    Quite a few reasons.

    Mobility, security, wallet-scale portability, use on embedded equipment (hifis, picture frames, etc.), use on non-networked home PC's, PC OS backups (that need to be on a format that a PC can boot directly from), shock-resistance, and backups of data that you want kept mechanically separate from your usual backup scheme.

    And for archiving medium-ish amounts of data, where you don't actually know which data formats are going to last the longest, it doesn't hurt to use multiple physical formats. If you can fit an extra backup of all your most important family photos onto a 16 gig card and keep it in your wallet, then why not?

  136. Card Case by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Got me one of these, mostly cause it looks cool.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/388980-REG/Gepe_3853_03_Card_Safe_Mini_Red_.html

  137. The New Floppy Disk! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I have a job where I spend time outside "in the field" (as we put it) and I interact with multiple, SD Card reading devices. These include cameras, surveying total stations, XRF devices, etc. These can create very large files very quickly (250 Mb for one device we have per data point). A laptop is not a practical solution when you're standing knee deep in a polluted stream, so dumping my data to a PC isn't an option in the field, hence I use multiple SD Cards.

    I have a neoprene card wallet that is quite nice and fits in to my pocket while holding 24+ Gb of SD memory. It zips closed and has 6 mesh pockets inside that can hold up to 2 cards apiece.

    I like the layout inside, it's comfortable in my pocket, and floats if I drop it. The only problem is the neoprene's knack for soaking up specific pollutants.

  138. Re:Archives by conureman · · Score: 1

    SD cards are pretty cheap relative to the effort required to upload the data. Also I believe that rewriting over the media eventually leads to increased failure. It isn't meant to be archival media, but it is SO cheap, I have decided not to reuse it. For me, that is the "better solution". It's not really for redundancy or anything. I never re-formatted used floppies either, I guess I must be new here.

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  139. Re:Labels and Stereotypes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm African Welsh, you insensitive clod!

  140. Re:Labels?!? Are you serious?!? by stretch0611 · · Score: 1

    An SD card is about one square inch and as thick as a credit card. A micro-SD is smaller then the fingernail on my pinky. Even if you have labels that you can use, or attempt to use a sharpie, What are you going to write in a space that small that will hold its meaning at a glance?

    Get plastic sandwich bags. toss the cards in there with a piece of paper describing the contents. Cheap and more effective than any other solution so far. If they are zip-lock bags, it will even save the day if you drop them in the bathroom...

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  141. iPorter / mPorter by misterplow · · Score: 1
    I've been very satisfied with the iporter line of mini carrying cases. They go great on a keychain, etc.

    http://www.eporterinc.com/products.htm

  142. With a hard-plastic "recipe box" & 3x5 cards. by ShadowSystems · · Score: 1

    Take a stack of 3x5 cards & write in the upper left area of the card:
    DATE:
    TIME:
    LOCATION:
    SUBJECT:
    NOTES:
    Then take a piece of standard cello-tape, fold it into a loop (so there's a "sticky side" on both sides), and tape a single memory card to the card *label side up*.
    That is your clue that the card is empty & ready to be used.
    Repeat this with as many memory cards as you have.
    Put them all in the hard-plastic "recipe box" 3x5 card container & close the lid.
    Toss it into your camera bag.

    When you get to a 'Shoot Location, set the box on the table, flip open the lid, & lay a few (3x5 Cards + Memory Card) on the table.
    When you use a card, stick it back on the 3x5 card *label side down* so you know that one's already been used.
    When you're done with the Shoot, fill out each card, stick them in the front of the box, & when you get home, deal with them as normal.

    Make new blank 3x5 Cards for each of the Memory Cards you've used.
    Put the freshly-emptied Memory Card label-side-up on the blank card, & put it back in the box.
    Put the box in your camera bag.

    Repeat this cycle for each shoot, and you'll always have a list of what's on each Memory Card.
    Once you've emptied the Memory Card to your computer for processing, write the photo file names on the associated 3x5 card.
    This way you have a perm record of each shoot: When, Where, & What.

    Then you can label the top of the 3x5 Card with a general idea of what the shoot was about (ex: "Soccer Game", "Vanessa on the Beach", etc), & use the 3x5 Cards as a literal "Card Catalog".
    Organize them by similar topics (sports, people, etc), & then you should be able to easily find the names of the photos associated with that topic.
    Finding the photo files themselves is variable as to how/where you store them, but the 3x5 Card "Catalog" will be a complete record of what you've taken.

    My father did this for nearly twenty years.
    Shoot a roll of film, put the film in its canister, tape the canister to a 3x5 card with the Date/Time/Notes bits, & grab a new roll from the next card.
    Get home, process the film in the dark room, & then save the physical photos behind the matching 3x5 card.

    Put a new box of (canisters + 3x5 cards) in his camera bag, & never worry about remembering where or what any particular roll of film was about.
    He kept the notes as he took the shots, and now nearly thirty years later, the family doesn't wonder who is in any particular shot.
    We can flip through the photo album, read the 3x5 card before each group of pictures, and know *exactly* where each picture was taken, when, & of whom.

    Now that you do the storage digitally, you can have an even larger collection of photos at your disposal.
    Which means a LOT more 3x5 Cards, but the principle still holds.
    You'll have kept a record.
    Your family will thank you.
    =)

  143. use pockets from coin album page by dr_blurb · · Score: 1

    I was looking for a wallet for my SD cards, but couldn't find one anywhere (I have an Eee with a couple of extra cards (one for backup, one for Slax, etc.)).

    I ended up using a couple of sleeves of a coin album page: they're the right size, and protect the cards ok.

  144. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    I don't think you'd need RAW files in order to see lens distortion. In-camera processing does not correct lens distortion AFAIK.

    I bet it mitigates it slightly.

    I can indeed see lens artifacts in my JPEGs though :P

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  145. Re:Meaningless stats... (was: Re:Labels) by treeves · · Score: 1

    You could test it. Get a large piece of graph paper and set up your camera in front of it (make sure it's flat, centered and perpendicular to the camera axis) on a tripod. At various zoom levels and apertures, take pictures of the paper in both RAW and [some other file format]. Open up the files in an image editor where you can overlay the photos on a rectangular grid. Compare. You can see barrel and pincushion distortion etc. Note that "distortion" in an optical sense is only a subset of many types of optical defects, which also include things like chromatic aberration (common in cheap optics) that I was not including. Correcting distortion would require some geometric transformation that would vary depending on the lens settings and therefore be very difficult to do, in-camera or otherwise. Conclusion: I don't think you'll see any difference in distortion.

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  146. Does anyone ever read the subject header? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Wow, so many posts and so much effort to NOT answer a question. Reminds me of a joke: Guy goes to the doctor and says, "Doctor, it hurts when I go like this," so the doctor says, "Don't go like that."

    Anyway, I have had similar issues with memory cards before. I'm no expert, but I can tell you what I do.

    I use SD cards with several devices - digital camera, cell phone, USB "thumb drive", portable digital music player (read: MP3 player), GPS unit, and my laptop (or "netbook").

    Yes - you CAN take the 1GB card full of photos and dump them elsewhere. It's just nice to be able to swap them out if you're "in the field" and not near a larger storage device.

    For the music player, I like to have a gig or two of one type of music per card, so I can then swap out cards depending on what mood I'm in. Yeah, yeah - people will say, "Just use playlists, DUH!" But this particular player seems to only do random across the whole device. Not to mention the hassle of dealing with all the mislabeled MP3 metadata.

    For the netbook, I use an 8GB card as a drive. If you want to keep your machine completely "legit" and not have pirated audio/video on it (not that *I* would, of course), it's handy to keep it on a removable piece of media.

    Anyway, here's some stuff I do:

    1) Try to go with a single size (physically) for all your cards. I just get the smallest (microSD) and use adapters to step up to larger sizes.

    2) Make sure your various devices can use the "high capacity" (4+ gig) cards before slapping one in there when you really need one.

    3) I got a bunch of different brands (from Newegg). This let me "label" them simply by using the brand name printed on the card. Then, I just have a little slip of paper that maps the brands to the content. I was also kind of interested to see if any brand in particular failed and was to be avoided in the future.

    4) Sometimes you might have repeat labels (brand/capacity combinations). For that, you can get some brightly and uniquely-colored sticker, cut a sliver, and put it on the top (non-data contact) edge of the card.

    5) I also got them in varying sizes (1, 2, 4, and 8 gig). This lets me use whatever is appropriate for the task. 8GB for movies, 2GB for photos, 1GB for music, etc.

    6) Get a few adapters. Usually when you get a microSD card, it'll come with sleeves that let you use it in a miniSD or SD slot. I Also recommend getting a "microSD-to-USB" adapter, for easier file transfer. In my camera, I have a microSD card in a "Trifecta" (search on Newegg for it) adapter that lets me use it as regular-sized SD in the camera, but then also as a USB card reader, all without removing the microSD card from the adapter (and bypassing any handshaking where the PC wants to use some special photo-handling software).

    7) OK, here's the main thing you were asking about - management. SOME of the cards I will leave in the device (camera, netbok, USB adapter, etc). For others, this is what I did:

    I went to two stores. One was called the Container Store and has... well... containers. I got maybe a half-dozen pill containers to try out for microSD cases. They're usually clear, so you (and the TSA) can see what's in them. Some of them even have threaded tops, so you can screw on the top and be more sure that the container isn't going to pop open.

    The other store was a craft store called Michaels. There, I got a thin piece of foam rubber, cut a little rectangle (or whatever cross-section of the container is), and punched a dozen slits in it.

    Push the cards in the slits. Make sure they're all facing the same direction, for ease of looking through them. The flexibility of the foam rubber lets you "bend" cards out of the way while rifling through them with meaty fingers.

    Then just slide the foam rubber cross-section (with embedded cards) into the container. Put the label-to-contents map in with the cards (or rubber band it to the outside). Wrap a rubber band around the container itself, if you want to make sure it doesn't open on

  147. Organize by SUBJECT: Photos-set, Music-set, Video by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    etc.

    That way you KNOW what kind-of-stuff is on a card, just by looking at it.

    Also, hit http://www.bhphotovideo.com/ and search

    Delkin SDHC Pro

    and you'll find the most incredibly cost-effective cards around ( fast 16GB for about $36! fast 8GB for about $15 iirc )

    It's the same as notes in a notebook: one subject/page, so you can tear out that page and file it in ONE file/place.

    If you want to grab all your music, and you have your music segregated onto the M-cards ( sharpie's good, colored sharpie's better ), you can grab 'em all & sort 'em out on the road ( no, I wanted the other one, with the Rosalind Tureck, or Heinrich Schiff... ).

    Videos on V-1 V-2 etc... Simple, Obvious, Clear, Doesn't Waste Brainforce.

    If, instead, you've got different *kinds* of stuff jumbled onto every card, clarity's boshed.

    Clarity wins, everytime ( ask Apple corp about that, re their UI & apps ).

    Cheers,

        Captain Obvious

  148. He's referring to the act of herding, so yes... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    anyone who is herding SD-cards is horde-ing 'em.
    ( a pod of Wales, a Horde of cards... )

      ( :

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