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Microsoft Secret Prototype Phone Stolen

bossanovalithium writes to tell us that details are emerging about the theft of a top secret prototype mobile device stolen from an executive's pocket. Time to start watching eBay. "There are fears that leaks regarding the features and early bugs in the software could mar the launch of Windows Mobile 6.5 which the company hopes will give it the edge over the iPhone and the new Google Android operating system. The new product includes support for touch-screen technology similar to that found on the Apple iPhone. Among the features offered in the new service unveiled by Microsoft's chief executive, Steve Ballmer, on Tuesday, is a version of Windows Marketplace for Mobiles, which is set to compete with the popular Apple's App Store and provide easy ways to download music and products to mobiles. "

249 comments

  1. andnothingofvaluewaslost by Spazztastic · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why would they even be giving out a secret prototype to an executive? Shouldn't it be behind a locked door? Or was this just a way to generate hype?

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    1. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Facetious · · Score: 1

      Because that's how Microsoft rolls, and that's the problem with them.

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    2. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Why would they be building a phone; another area that they are not good at.

      See also: Portable media players

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    3. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by vandelais · · Score: 0, Troll

      Since it's from Microsoft, it could be a dildophone with force feedback. Perhaps the unnamed executive wasn't satisfied with their XBOX experience.

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    4. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      It was actually rescued from a chair that Steve Ballmer was about to throw.

    5. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Why would they even be giving out a secret prototype to an executive? Shouldn't it be behind a locked door?

      That's true. And they should have had a sentry gun waiting, maybe had a demo guy or heavy weapons guy waiting as well. Hopefully their scout can bring back the sony prototype phone first.

      On an unrelated note, I've been playing a lot of TF2.

    6. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Or was this just a way to generate hype?

      Reminds me of the South Park episode where they were trying to figure out who was behind 9/11 (started with Cartman saying the Jews did it), and towards the end President Bush said "Ha! and all along the plans were right here in my hands, and you'll never get them!" - then he turns around and yawns while looking over his shoulder and dropping the "secret plans" on the floor.

      Yeah, I could see this being something like that, and if so then they learned from their "leaks" of Windows 7. But that's just me.

    7. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by bjourne · · Score: 5, Informative

      Is it that hard to figure out? They are dogfooding their software by giving out prototypes to employers. It is the best method to get early user feedback. I used to work for a phone manufacturer and regularly brought home phones whose release dates were 6-12 months in the future. All manufacturers does it.

    8. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by sexconker · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      http://www.teamfortress.com/scoutupdate/

      Can't wait.
      Scout is my favorite class.
      I'll be lobbing baseballs at people, chugging energy drinks, and scatter gunning the fuck out of shit. (Scatter gun replacement will probably be a lame nail gun, I need my boomstick.)

    9. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by von_rick · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Things that are "stolen" from M$ usually show up on torrent sites just before the launch of a beta. This being an actual object, it might show up on freecycle lists :-)

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    10. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      Yeah, I'm stuck playing it on the 360. It will be a cold day in hell when I get to play the updates, or maybe sooner if I cave in and buy a new computer that can run it.

      (Before anyone asks why I don't upgrade now, I don't use the computer I have at home already, buying a new one for a single game I already have is something I can't quite justify.

    11. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      Sometimes you just need to do field testing; the Executive could have used the excuse of determining whether or not to continue the project, funding or some such.

      Personally, I hope this spurs a call for anti-theft measures to be integrated into the device. GPS reporting, disabling if reported stolen, so on... Sure, they could be bypassed, but antitheft measures work basically on 'I'm more of a pain in the butt to steal(from) than the next guy'.

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    12. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by krismon · · Score: 1

      Because it's all about the dogfood at Microsoft.

    13. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Well, other than the gact that is wasn't one of their people.

    14. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by catchblue22 · · Score: 1

      This sounds like a publicity stunt to me.

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    15. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by darkpixel2k · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why would they even be giving out a secret prototype to an executive? Shouldn't it be behind a locked door? Or was this just a way to generate hype?

      At least we know their new prototype sucks balls and doesn't have GPS...

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    16. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by PJ1216 · · Score: 1

      I know. I don't want them to get into the phone market. When details were coming out that they were making some handheld device, I was really hoping it'd be a handheld gaming system to correspond with xbox. Imagine being able to hook that up to XBox Live Arcade? A lot of those games could easily transfer to a portable gaming system.

    17. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Phroggy · · Score: 1

      Personally, I hope this spurs a call for anti-theft measures to be integrated into the device. GPS reporting, disabling if reported stolen, so on... Sure, they could be bypassed, but antitheft measures work basically on 'I'm more of a pain in the butt to steal(from) than the next guy'.

      That's how antitheft devices work on cars (where you have several vehicles to choose from and can take the time to evaluate the antitheft devices), not on cell phones (the theft of which generally requires pickpocketing or mugging). If somebody is considering stealing your phone, it's unlikely he'll decide not to because he recognizes it as a model he doesn't want. Once he's stolen it, he's sure as hell not going to give it back to you (although he may toss it, if it's not worth trying to sell).

      For a cell phone, your best bet is to destroy the data and disable the device, making it unusable (and therefore worthless, or nearly so) after it has been stolen.

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    18. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by davidsyes · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      I asked similar questions when i posted this last night, but it seems bossanovalithium had a better write-up or has connection to be posted first...

      yeh, off-topic, but this kind of shit is why i don't bother to moderate. Why bother moderating when for 2 years i never see posted anything i suggest (and, no, before you ask, anyone, YES, i submit to be shared or submit as a story when this stuff has backfired on me...), and when maybe 5 times, the next day, someone ELSE gets posted. Makes me think of cronyims. But, what the hell. My fatal flaw expecting a little better. Like Slashdot posting submissions using only a single submitter name, but multiples, when multiple people submit within 2 to 4 hours of one another, especially since the moderators seem to wait long enough.

      And, no, pretty much nobody here is of big-time-magazine caliber, so the cronyism should stop.

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    19. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Phones have had anti-theft measures since forever. All GSM phones, for instance, have world-unique IMEIs burned into them, and telcos can and will refuse to talk to systems that have been reported stolen. That doesn't stop people who can hack the IMEI, or who use the handset with some provider that doesn't act on theft reports; but the notion is there.

    20. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, I could see this being something like that, and if so then they learned from their "leaks" of Windows 7.

      By "leaks" I'm assuming you are referring to the highly publicized and available to anyone who wanted it public beta program that they were running, and which was advertised on the front page of the microsoft.com website. Are those the "leaks" you're talking about?

    21. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by mcgrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This struck me from TFS:

      There are fears that leaks regarding the features and early bugs in the software could mar the launch of Windows Mobile 6.5

      They're afraid people will find out about their poorly designed, buggy phones. Mod me troll if you wish, but I've seen few MS designs that weren't counterintuitive, ass-backwards, without the end user's needs or wants in mind.

    22. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 0, Troll

      No, the leaks where like 2 or 3 betas were seeded on the pirate bay months before the public beta you are referring to. These were highly publicized too, in the right communities, but although microsoft.com didn't advertise it they did little to stop those that were running the leak (I accidentally let it connect to Windows Update a few times too many back in even August of last year, but nothing ever happened). Ran fine in a VM, but the display drivers haven't improved with Vista compatibility even since then.

    23. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by sexconker · · Score: 1

      It's sooooooooooo worth it though.

    24. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by davidsyes · · Score: 1

      You and i agree. But, Phroggy seems to counter us. (More of my musings/thoughts in my thread which i submitted as a story last night.)

      But, does anyone think there is any truth to the phone being a REAL prototype? And what about any NSA angles on it?

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    25. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by cayenne8 · · Score: 1
      Is phone theft even that much of a problem?

      I've never known anybody who had one stolen....

      I supposed the ones with sim cards in them could be used with a new card (I've just recently learned about these due to interest in iPhones), but, for other ones like from Sprint and Verizon, you cant' really do much with them, eh?

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    26. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Ironica · · Score: 2, Funny

      Well, other than the gact that is wasn't one of their people.

      I have a feeling the above message was typed on that missing mobile device...

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    27. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Cornelius+the+Great · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The phone wasn't built by Microsoft. It wasn't even MS-branded- it was an HTC Touch Pro 2.

      This is pretty much non-news. WM 6.5 beta has been leaked in various iterations and some of the guys at xda-developers have already cooked these into roms for several devices. I've even flashed it onto my HTC Touch Pro just to see what it's like. Guess what, (surprise!) it's slower and even more bloated than WM6.1. It didn't last for more than a couple hours before I got fed up and rolled it back. Honestly, 6.5 didn't add anything useful to 6.1. Just a honey-comb UI that looks crappier/more jerky than TouchFlo/Manilla or Spb Mobile shell.

      I don't really think MS has to worry about trade secrets about its "new and improved" mobile OS being leaked to Apple, RIM, or Google. The only benefit a competitor would gain is a quick laugh.

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    28. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      They didn't, it was an HTC Touch Pro2. This story is nonsense.

    29. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Farhood · · Score: 1

      so wait....the Jews _didn't_ do it???

    30. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Cant be that much of a secret device if they let people take them home.

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    31. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Brickwall · · Score: 1

      Oh, foo. What I want to know is how far could Ballmer throw the phone?

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    32. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      That's how antitheft devices work on cars

      That's how antitheft devices work in general. Bolt locks on a house don't prevent entry, but they either require more complex picking or the burglar to get in a different way, such as breaking a window, because there's a latch holding the window closed. Bars make entering through windows more difficult. Alarms limit the time a burglar has, safes and vaults either require large amounts of time or power tools/explosives.

      If somebody is considering stealing your phone, it's unlikely he'll decide not to because he recognizes it as a model he doesn't want.

      On the other hand, if it becomes known that some brand of phone will disable itself the moment it connects to a network, no matter it's SIM chip, once it's reported stolen, except for reporting it's location via GPS, the smart thieves won't keep them, and won't steal them if they recognize it.

      If it starts becoming a standard feature, people stop stealing cell phones for the most part, because it's not worth it.

      Once he's stolen it, he's sure as hell not going to give it back to you (although he may toss it, if it's not worth trying to sell).

      This can be a good thing if the service reports the GPS location of the phone, if available. Then you just pick it up from the alley or bushes or whatever. Maybe even, with the cooperation of the company(and another phone), cause it to ring when you're in the area to make it easier. A cell-phone version of lojack, basically.

      For a cell phone, your best bet is to destroy the data and disable the device, making it unusable (and therefore worthless, or nearly so) after it has been stolen.

      I mentioned disabling, though I should have mentioned the wiping.

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    33. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      Nice.
      SPB Mobile shell FTW anyway, at least on WM5.

    34. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Firethorn · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've never known anybody who had one stolen....

      Some criminals will steal them in order to make international phone calls for various reasons(like drug deals).

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    35. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Firethorn · · Score: 1

      I'd heard reporting a phone stolen and having the companies disable it to be quite difficult. So I was just going on what I'd heard.

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    36. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Don't knock it, I'm sure they could make one that would work for every day except one every four years.

      Actually their interface is already on phones but I have no idea why - nesting menus on a tiny phone screen? How did THAT make it out of beta?

    37. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I can't comment on whether or not telcos are worthless bloodsucking obstructionists in that area as well(though I have my suspicions); so you may well be entirely correct on the matter. I was just noting that a modestly robust technological means of dealing with stolen phones is available(along with various implementation specific remote deletion services).

      I would be wholly unsurprised if you are correct; but, if so, it would pretty much be a product of organizational issues, rather than tech ones.

    38. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the theft of a top secret prototype mobile device stolen from an executive's pocket.

      Just when you think you have Steve Ballmer by the balls, you find out he doesn't have any.

    39. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      for a free publicity stunt...
      plus most nerds hate execs and think management is dumb...thus making this story believable. (at least in their eyes)

       

    40. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Dan541 · · Score: 1

      It's called Microsoft Security

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    41. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by jellomizer · · Score: 1

      They Realized it was a loss cause so they gave it to the Executive who lived in the highest crime area so it would get stolen as they realize that the insurance payback would be more then the phone itself.

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    42. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may be right. HypeSoft may be getting desperate. If its truly stolen, expect cheap (and I mean CHEAP) Chinese immitations to flood the market in 5,4,3...

    43. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think WM 6.5 supports Flash.

    44. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be a toss-up between him and Russel Crowe.

    45. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is this troll? Retarded mods.

  2. The scheme by 68030 · · Score: 1

    They're just waiting to make the first post from the device be a first post on a story.

  3. The "secret" is by MrEricSir · · Score: 5, Funny

    that it's an iPhone with the word "Microsoft" engraved on the back

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    1. Re:The "secret" is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In other news, the thieves reverse engineered the phone only to find features available in existing phones.

    2. Re:The "secret" is by Vskye · · Score: 1

      Stupid moderators are at it again. How the hell can the parent be marked "Redundant" when NONE of the above comments even mentioned what he said. Someone needs their mod points revoked.

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    3. Re:The "secret" is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Tedious whines are tedious.

    4. Re:The "secret" is by spacefiddle · · Score: 1

      "Redundant"

      You keep usin tha wor... i do no thin it means wha you thin it means...

    5. Re:The "secret" is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe because people interested in objective discussion are sick of all the redundant, predictable Microsoft bashing. Not everybody wants to join in on your little circle-jerk.

    6. Re:The "secret" is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You keep usin tha wor... i do no thin it means wha you thin it means...

      Dude, you really need to clean out the shit from under your keys.

    7. Re:The "secret" is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That ees heese accent, you eegnorant clod.

    8. Re:The "secret" is by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Pro-Microsoft? Anti-Apple? Politically Conservative? == (Score:-5, Flamebait)

  4. not a top secret phone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably was an HTC TouchPro2 or something that is known. As for 6.5, it has been leaked before.

  5. An edge? by illegalcortex · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm not apple fanboy, but explain again how having a phone that will have a touchscreen like the iPhone and an online music store like iTunes is supposed to give Microsoft an "edge" over Apple.

    1. Re:An edge? by MrEricSir · · Score: 4, Interesting

      The real edge is that the Exchange client actually works on Windows Mobile.

      Can't say this for the iPhone, sadly.

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    2. Re:An edge? by Neuroelectronic · · Score: 0

      Well, once they copy what the competitors are doing they can use their monopoly position to force everyone to use it.

    3. Re:An edge? by JasonKChapman · · Score: 1

      If we assume said features would be available on half a dozen different phones from a variety of carriers, then from an OS company's point of view, it's an edge.

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    4. Re:An edge? by Logical+Zebra · · Score: 1

      I wonder if this phone is going to be Microsoft's version of the iPhone--a Zune device that can act as a phone and purchase music from the Zune store anywhere.

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    5. Re:An edge? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 1

      Well, their monopoly position in the mobile phone industry is more has-never-and-will-never-exist than existent.

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    6. Re:An edge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well I think you know the answer to that.

    7. Re:An edge? by Telvin_3d · · Score: 1

      Not if those half dozen models collectively sell less than the competitors single model. In fact, having a dozen moving targets makes the developers jobs that much harder, even assuming the same number of total phones sold.

    8. Re:An edge? by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

      Because Microsoft won't police software and only allow "approved" apps. That, IMHO, is the biggest weakness of the iPhone.

    9. Re:An edge? by Anthony_Cargile · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The real edge is that the Exchange client actually works on Windows Mobile.

      You're talking about Exchange, and you think it's just the client that doesn't work?

    10. Re:An edge? by codepunk · · Score: 1

      I don't like the apple software police either, however I am glad that they do because it ensures that crapware leaky
      apps do not run on the phone. Failure to police the software will result in users ultimately blaming the hardware.

      MS has a impossible task in front of them at this point.

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    11. Re:An edge? by The+Great+Pretender · · Score: 2, Funny

      I believe the 'edge' they are referring to is the one that you walk up to before jumping off without a parachute.

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    12. Re:An edge? by Xest · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The things that might give Microsoft the edge are proper Windows integration (Exchange etc.) which is important in the business world where the majority of systems are Windows based and also the massive hoarde of .NET developers that can easily develop for Windows mobile.

      Whether they will in practice is a different story of course but Microsoft do have some advantages with their platform, the idea is if they can close their disadvantages - i.e. provide the things Apple has, whilst continuing to provide the things they don't have then that would indeed give them the edge.

    13. Re:An edge? by hondo77 · · Score: 1

      Um, aren't there something like 20,000 apps in Apple's App Store? How is this "weakness" manifesting itself?

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    14. Re:An edge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, you can develop apps for Windows CE without having to buy a Macintosh. I call that an edge.

    15. Re:An edge? by ohcrapitssteve · · Score: 4, Informative

      Not to start a flame war or a vocal-minority thing here, but am I alone in having virtually no issues at all with iPhone's ActiveSync capability? I've been using it for work email since day one and haven't had a single issue. What issues have you had?

    16. Re:An edge? by ady1 · · Score: 1

      The exchange feature is not new. It has been in WinMo since the beginning. 90% of the people who have winmo is for that particular reason. However in total, the number of people who need this feature are a minority.

      Again, how does this secret prototype had anything that would give winmobile an edge over iphone (which is overrated itself IMO)?

    17. Re:An edge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's because it's flexible and is used as a watch.

      **Don't start a hoax from this**

    18. Re:An edge? by Low+Ranked+Craig · · Score: 1

      I'm with you. I use it every day, and I've had no issues. Sadly I can't say the same for Outlook 2007...

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    19. Re:An edge? by huckamania · · Score: 1

      Windows mobile already has touch screen support and has had it for a long while.

    20. Re:An edge? by BSDimwit · · Score: 1

      Same here, mine has worked flawlessly.

    21. Re:An edge? by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Not to start a flame war or a vocal-minority thing here, but am I alone in having virtually no issues at all with iPhone's ActiveSync capability? I've been using it for work email since day one and haven't had a single issue.

      This being an open forum, there will always be people complaining about their problems with device nnn - and they'll generally assume their problems are universal and the fault of the vendor.

      In a case like the GPs, for all we know he's using a jailbroken iPhone, or trying to run a bastardized copy of the iPhone OS on a user-modified Palm Pilot for that matter. Or he may not even own an iPhone, but just heard from some guy that the "iPawn's ActiveSync sux0rz". I'm not saying any of this actually represents the facts - just that, when an lone individual makes vague/sweeping comments, we just have no idea of the facts.

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    22. Re:An edge? by stms · · Score: 1

      Because everyone already uses Microsoft so they don't even have to do as good as Apple to have a "edge" over them.

    23. Re:An edge? by nine-times · · Score: 1

      Not sure what you mean. I use the ActiveSync on my iPhone and it works pretty much perfectly. Maybe your Exchange server isn't set up right?

    24. Re:An edge? by MickLinux · · Score: 1

      That's why Microsoft never ships a device in the nnn stage, but instead waits until they can deliver a product with device zzz. At least via web submission, fewer complaints are registered when a device is in the zzz state, and nobody assumes it's the fault of the vendor.

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    25. Re:An edge? by geekoid · · Score: 1

      I think they are getting to worked up about releasing gadgets.
      The first thing I would do is create exchange clients that work with the iPhone.
      Charge 29.99. Why would you want to intentionally lock your product to a few devices when software is where you make your money?

      Seriously, I would love to talk to people on Microsoft's board about this.

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    26. Re:An edge? by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      Not to start a flame war or a vocal-minority thing here, but am I alone in having virtually no issues at all with iPhone's ActiveSync capability? I've been using it for work email since day one and haven't had a single issue. What issues have you had?

      For me, the issue is not what works (email works fine) but what was left out - tasks, meeting invite creation capability; and how the iPhone handles some things such as email sorting. In addition, for some odd reason some of my multi-day all day events don't show up on my iPhone.

      From an exchange usability perspective, as someone who wants his phone to handle all the exchange tasks I do on a laptop; the iPhone is no where near as good as my Treo 700p or w.

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    27. Re:An edge? by peragrin · · Score: 1

      Just for the record the iPhone I am posting this with connects to exchange just fine for work.

      Normally though I set it up for google's exhange for my google calendar, and IMAP for my personal email. I for personal stuff I don't need push email. However every once in a while I need exchange for work. It takes a few minutes to resetup but works great.

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    28. Re:An edge? by Xest · · Score: 1

      There's a difference between using Exchange's basic POP3 server and making use of all the vast array of features Exchange provides though. Most business want the full suite of features.

    29. Re:An edge? by spacefiddle · · Score: 1

      Mod Parent Fu... Ins... Fu... now i know how Tantalus felt.

    30. Re:An edge? by not+already+in+use · · Score: 1

      90% of the people who have winmo is for that particular reason. However in total, the number of people who need this feature are a minority.

      Tell that to the legion of corporate BlackBerry owners who, you know, use their phone for things other than downloading light saber and fart apps.

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    31. Re:An edge? by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 1

      Because Microsoft won't police software and only allow "approved" apps.

      You mean like XBox?

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    32. Re:An edge? by raind · · Score: 1

      Windows mobile in my past experience has been a pain in the ass, much happier with my Blackberry syncing with Exchange and activating wirelessly. ymmv

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    33. Re:An edge? by peragrin · · Score: 1

      other than calendar, reminders, and email, there isn't a whole lot.

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    34. Re:An edge? by smoker2 · · Score: 1

      Aah but does it support multi-touch ? Apple have gone from 1 button is cool, who needs two, to why have you got 1 button, all in 6 years. And so the world turns ...

    35. Re:An edge? by atamido · · Score: 1

      We have several Windows Mobile devices at work, and my iPhone has far less sync issues with Exchange than any of them. Honestly I'm pretty baffled by it.

    36. Re:An edge? by dbIII · · Score: 1

      The REAL edge is that now Microsoft have a version of Exchange that actually works!

    37. Re:An edge? by DECS · · Score: 1

      Yes that's why Apple licensed Exchange ActiveSync. It works with Exchange using the same conduits used by other EAS mobile clients, just like other Windows Mobile phones, PalmOS Treos, BlackBerrys, etc.

      Did you miss that? It was kind of big news a year ago at the launch of iPhone 2.0. The iPhone fully supports all the same remote wipe and management features too.

      Apple / Enterprise

    38. Re:An edge? by DECS · · Score: 1

      Windows Mobile doesn't really have touch support 'similar to the iPhone,' but instead supports stylus-oriented resistive screens rather than finger-savvy capacitance sensing technology used on the iPhone. That results in users needing to press methodically and deliberately on the screen, an entirely different experience compared to the iPhone. Resistance-stylus screens are required to keep alive the fantasy of Bill Gates' future of Tablet PCs, where everyone walks around writing on electronic pads with big screens.

      Never mind that that approach has failed to take off for twenty years now, pioneered by GRiD, developed graphically by Apple in the Newton, briefly sold successfully by Palm before it moved into smartphones with mini keys, and replicated by a series of Windows CE devices that never went anywhere. Stylus touch screens are another videophone, something everyone anticipates for the future despite a long history of deliberate rejection in the market.

      The Case of the Top Secret, Missing Windows Mobile Phone

    39. Re:An edge? by sgt_doom · · Score: 1
      I fully agree with your assessment, in fact, I convinced my boss to carry an iPhone in his trouser pocket, and its rendered him sterile.

      Just so long as it keeps one toxic a-hole from reproducing...the world is a much safer place.....

    40. Re:An edge? by nametaken · · Score: 1

      Not sure what problems you've had, but we just switched all of our users over to iPhones. While it was a popular decision either way, a big part of it was the remarkably GOOD integration with our exchange environment. We haven't had a single hitch with a users phone or exchange integration yet.

      Oh, and you'll have to take my word for it, but there were exactly zero apple zealots in the office before we swapped out their phones. Now people are asking serious questions about mac workstations. That step scares me a little.

    41. Re:An edge? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean the monopoly position on advanced touch screens that Apple is trying to maintain by strangling all competition? re: palm

    42. Re:An edge? by illegalcortex · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he should have been specific and said "need a Windows Mobile phone for this feature."

  6. The thief has spoken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crap, I thought it was an iPhone!

  7. Well one thing's for sure by pwnies · · Score: 5, Funny

    Their new phone wont have GPS capabilities.

    1. Re:Well one thing's for sure by sexconker · · Score: 3, Funny

      I see you're trying to locate a stolen prototype.

      Would you like help tossing that chair?

      </clippy>

    2. Re:Well one thing's for sure by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      Actually, it does. But, the latitude, longitude, altitude speed and heading frequently get switched.

          After correcting the inconsistencies, it last checked in for an update 3 hours ago from:

      Lat/Lon: 47.64408, -122.128556
      Lat/Lon: +47 38' 38.69", -122 7' 42.80"
      Speed: 5mph
      Heading: 180.0

          (All information is +- 500 feet or 5%)

          If anyone can find where this could be, I'm sure the folks at Microsoft would appreciate it. Email to secret.prototype.department@microsoft.com . Make your subject "I know where your phone is."

          Hopefully no one would reverse engineer the device, and leak trade secrets to the competition who would then include those new innovations into their own products, where Microsoft would then be able to sue them out of business.

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    3. Re:Well one thing's for sure by PJ1216 · · Score: 1

      I see what you did there.

    4. Re:Well one thing's for sure by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          Who? me?

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    5. Re:Well one thing's for sure by gmuslera · · Score: 1

      Have for sure accelerometer. Its last report showed that was going down at 10 ms/s^2.

    6. Re:Well one thing's for sure by DECS · · Score: 1

      It will also feature an apparent "global opt out" program on its remote wipe capabilities.

      The Case of the Top Secret, Missing Windows Mobile Phone

  8. My Mistake... by Afforess · · Score: 0, Troll

    The thief is probably regretting his decision right this minute.

    Thief: "Sweet, I bagged another Iphone! Wait, what is this?
    M-Phone:"Welcome to Microsoft Windows Phone Edition. Please Wait."
    Thief: "NOOOO!" (The thief throws the phone in the 1st available dumpster)

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    1. Re:My Mistake... by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      I'd love to have an iPhone, but there is one problem - I'm a man, and as such I don't carry a purse. I've yet to see anyone but women with iPhones.

      I need a phone that will fit in my pocket, preferably a clamshell. The one I'm using now is a candy bar type and it irks me no end; I have keylock enabled so it doesn't go making random calls, which it sometimes does anyway if I stick it in my pocket before the keys lock.

      My daughter had a clamshell phone that opened up like a miniature laptop, that was great - except it was too big.

      I guess I'll have to get another Razr.

    2. Re:My Mistake... by wilburx · · Score: 1

      My iPhone fits in pocket perfectly fine. In three months, I've never had it call or do anything while in my pocket.

    3. Re:My Mistake... by Keen+Anthony · · Score: 1

      Is the iPhone much bigger than the current gen iPod Touch? I own the latter, and it's easily pocketable. it's just that I have to tack on one of those protective silicone slip covers in order to keep it from sliding out of my pockets when I sit.

      I just bought an LG Env2; clamshell type that opens up like a miniature laptop. Very good phone. Love it, except that the speaker phone/speaker setup is less than optimal. It's small though, in the ballpark of the Blackberry Pearl, just shorter. Maybe look into that. Definitely not Razr territory, but it's not a phone you'd have to worry about snapping in half either.

  9. Why bother by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

    All available information, thus far, suggests that 6.5 is essentially 6.1 with an embarrassingly thin layer of reskinning, arguably inferior to various partner's existing efforts(touchflow, etc.).

    What would an industrial spy hope to learn?

  10. The thief has been caught already by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Funny
    The thief has already been arraigned in court for the crime. The judge said "You are hereby fined $500."

    His lawyer stood up and said "Thanks, your honor, however my client only has $300 on him at this time, but if you'd allow him a few minutes in the crowd he will gather all the required monies."

    Oh, and what's the difference between a Peeping Tom and a pickpocket? A pickpocket snatches watches.

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    1. Re:The thief has been caught already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, and what's the difference between a Peeping Tom and a pickpocket? A pickpocket snatches watches.

      What is the difference between a circus and the Dallas Cowboys cheerleaders? A circus is a cunning array of stunts.

  11. Wait a minute... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this some lame publicity stunt whereby Microsoft tries to draw attention to a product that didn't get leaked on the Internet on it's own?

    1. Re:Wait a minute... by whopub · · Score: 1

      Is this some lame publicity stunt whereby Microsoft tries to draw attention to a product that didn't get leaked on the Internet on it's own?

      Well, if it does end up on eBay, it'll be a marketing nightmare if the auction ends without a single bid...

    2. Re:Wait a minute... by davester666 · · Score: 1

      I would say it's more likely that the person will try to use it, get extremely frustrated, and then smash it to bits... But I guess they might try to ebay the bits.

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    3. Re:Wait a minute... by jamstar7 · · Score: 1

      "Gently used", right?

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  12. Unambitous version number by Nerdposeur · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While you're at it, explain why, if WM 6 is ho-hum, and this new OS is better than the iPhone's, it only rates a 6.5 version number.

    I would think you'd need to rebuild WM from the ground up to compete with the iPhone. (The new Palm OS looks fairly promising in that regard.)

    1. Re:Unambitous version number by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Yeah exactly, wouldn't it be better from a marketing standpoint to release it as Windows Mobile 7, thereby cementing in the minds of the people that all things 7 are new and good?

      Windows Mobile 6.5 apparently doesn't even support Capacitive touch screens. It is also lacking in anything really interesting, according to one engadget reporter. It IS kind of pretty.

      Think about it though, in the history of computing, what competitive advantage has Microsoft ever had? Nothing, except momentum, starting with momentum given to them by IBM. It has always been enough for them to make a cheap copy of someone else's technology at a later date, making it 'good enough.' That is there only competitive advantage. And it's worked amazingly well for them. So it is understandable that Balmer would think a product that does nothing other than what their competitors already do would give them a competitive advantage. It always has before.

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    2. Re:Unambitous version number by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah exactly, wouldn't it be better from a marketing standpoint to [..]

      The very same marketing department that kept promising that Longhorn/Vista would have feature X, Y and Z? Resulting in a bloated product that most business stay way clear of upgrading to?

      I suspect you'll find that Marketing Department bound, gagged and dumped somewhere in a dark bunker..

    3. Re:Unambitous version number by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Microsoft's advantages were hard work by Gates in the old days, followed by marketing, followed by market saturation and momentum. Now they still have the market saturation, but they are losing ground to competition because they have been out-marketed by some excellently snazzy Apple products they assumed would always be too expensive and out-momentum-ed some very solid open source products (Ubuntu, Firefox) they probably thought would never be able to compete with their Goliath.

      From the top, down is the only way you go...

    4. Re:Unambitous version number by AlexBirch · · Score: 1

      Wait Vista is Windows 6?
      Windows Mobile is 6?
      The most common version of IE is 6?

      This reminds me of the sign of something...

    5. Re:Unambitous version number by dbIII · · Score: 1
      Even on apple they made the second best basic.

      Gate's advantage was a millionare IP lawyer for a father that let him port other people's stuff to other platforms and get away with it or buy other people's stuff to sell to others to get a monopoly on a hot new platform. The stroke of genius was to extend that monopoly to the clones of the IBM PC. In the server market the stroke of genius was to be just good enough to work most of the time and a huge amount cheaper than the professional end of town.

      Since even Honeywell is still around I'd say MS would be around in some form or another for 20 years even if they stopped selling all retail versions of their software tomorrow. Like Ford they can get away with building a few Edsels without experiencing much pain.

    6. Re:Unambitous version number by ion.simon.c · · Score: 1

      This reminds me of the sign of something...

      ...your mom, advertising her "services"?

    7. Re:Unambitous version number by AaronLawrence · · Score: 1

      Microsoft Office succeeded mostly through hard competing, taking the market off the sluggish, complacent competitors like WordPerfect.
      You could argue XBox took market share off Sony in a similar way, although of course it isn't really a business success yet.

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    8. Re:Unambitous version number by AlexBirch · · Score: 1

      Na, your mom is always paying to go down on my mom... no advertising necessary.

  13. We had the next iPhone killer.... by SupremoMan · · Score: 5, Funny

    but someone stole it...

    1. Re:We had the next iPhone killer.... by wurble · · Score: 1

      I'm guessing the next iPhone killer will actually be the next iPhone.

    2. Re:We had the next iPhone killer.... by dbcad7 · · Score: 1

      Actually the next iPhone killer will be revealed on the season finale of CSI Miami.

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  14. the secret: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    all micro-phones now have a start menu. Earlier this week, MS announced that they had shipped 50 million windows mobile/windows ce smart phone, 40 Million of those from HTC. HTC has been moving to android and symbian, though. The only advantage Microsoft has is with Office and backwards compatability (on the desktop). Legions of blackberry users prove that no one needs office on their phone. MS lost the smart phone.

    1. Re:the secret: by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      BB OS 4.5 includes Documents To Go, which can view and edit word docs and powerpoint presentations.

      Guess there's still a need for office on the phone.

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    2. Re:the secret: by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      It proves the need for compatibility with documents created in Office on the phone.

      A very important difference.

    3. Re:the secret: by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      bullshit. htc currently manufactures one single (and very lonely) android device while making 10 different wm models.

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    4. Re:the secret: by BronsCon · · Score: 1

      Word.

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    5. Re:the secret: by DECS · · Score: 1

      Actually, HTC has made 80% of all Windows Mobile devices ever sold. Which makes it very curious why Microsoft's greatest partner by far has chosen to advocate and pioneer development of Android, making the first (T-Mobile G1) and announcing the second (the Vodaphone).

      The only reason HTC isn't more vocal is that Microsoft paid it to shut up about Android at MWC, just as it did with LG, the other founding member of the Google OHA with Android phones planned , but only chatting up Windows Mobile 6.5 at the event.

      Why did Microsoft need to pay these companies for their headlines? And why are they both still making Android phones if they're happy with Microsoft?

      Microsoft: HTC has made 80% of all Windows Mobile phones
      Did Microsoft kill Android at Mobile World Congress 2009?

    6. Re:the secret: by dunkelfalke · · Score: 1

      Actually, HTC has made 80% of all Windows Mobile devices ever sold.

      uhm, not windows mobile devices, just windows mobile phone edition devices. there are lots of pdas with windows mobile but without a phone function. still, i own probably a good half of all htc models they ever made.

      And why are they both still making Android phones if they're happy with Microsoft?

      because they can? it is an easy task for htc to make an android phone - they basically have to rebadge an existing windows mobile device. most of their older devices can boot android already. it is not that either of them are somehow forced to use a single operating system for their products.

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    7. Re:the secret: by DECS · · Score: 1

      There was never any significant market for Pocket PC / WinCE PDAs. Gartner once talked about the entire market for PDAs as being close to 10 million per year, but that counted BlackBerry phones as PDAs (but not Palm Treos; guess who Gartner was working for).

      Take out Windows Mobile devices and the WinCE pool dries up into a light dusting of ridiculousness.

      No, HTC wants to use Android because its free and unrestricted, not "because they can." The problem with Android is that it doesn't "just work" yet. One thing Microsoft has done in the last ten years of WinCE work is get its phone stack working across a wide variety of hardware. That's why HTC doesn't just poop out its existing phones in Android versions.

      There is a huge amount of work involved in getting any smartphone finished. It's basically a computer running whatever "mobile OS" runs the interface, tied to a self contained cellular unit with all sorts of its own oddities that require lots of time to get working properly.

      The problem for Microsoft is that the world doesn't need that sort of integration. Users want a nice phone that works, not a huge array of slightly different phones that all look like crap.

      The Case of the Top Secret, Missing Windows Mobile Phone

  15. Ebay by Andy_R · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your search returned 0 items.

    0 results found for phone+brown+squirt
    [ Save this searchSaved to My eBay. ]

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    1. Re:Ebay by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Maybe you should try to Google that search string. I'll bet you get a few more results. ;)

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    2. Re:Ebay by hierophanta · · Score: 1

      ok being masochistically curious i had to search google. and the first result is for a pair of shoes from overstock. WTF is wrong with the marketing geniuses who thought of that name?!
      and searching in images (yeah i've got problems) comes up with the brown zune on the front page - now thats more like it!

  16. Unfortunately... by Foofoobar · · Score: 2, Funny

    The crook was hoping for an iPhone.

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  17. Who cares? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

    I've completely given up on the Windows Mobile platform. Slow, buggy, and syncing sucks. And birthday reminders defaulting to 12AM? WTF? Who gives a crap about a birthday reminder notification at 12AM?

    1. Re:Who cares? by pmuschi · · Score: 1

      Amen! This happened to me this morning.

  18. google hired ninjas by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    read the above topic.

    or was it apple?

  19. They'll return it, dont worry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They'll return it in 3 days because of all the crashing, like everyone else that got a Windows Mobile handheld... doh!

  20. how much you want to bet... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    ...It still has a "Start" button and cascading menus. And needs to be rebooted daily. And for some reason, users will just accept this.

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    1. Re:how much you want to bet... by nschubach · · Score: 5, Funny

      My Boss has a WinMo6 phone that locks up when he answers calls from his wife. He calls this a feature.

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    2. Re:how much you want to bet... by sexconker · · Score: 1

      What's wrong with cascading menus?
      Beats scrolling.

    3. Re:how much you want to bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      honestly, I have a samsung SCH-i760 with windows mobile 6.1, and it already has those features...

    4. Re:how much you want to bet... by roc97007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      What's wrong with cascading menus is that there's not enough real-estate on a mobile device to do them well. It becomes an exercise in patience and fine motor skills. It takes a remarkable number of gestures to get to some arbitrary app (up to seven on the WM phone I suffered with for 3 months) and there isn't enough real-estate to put all the apps one commonly uses on the front page. Cascading menus are OK on a PC, endurable (barely) on a netbook, and intolerable on a mobile device. Microsoft apparently thinks that users will endure decreased usability and eyestrain for a consistent interface across their PC, netbook and mobile devices. It appears that in some cases they're right. But I suspect it's because the users haven't adequately explored the alternatives.

      What is important on a mobile device is navigation on a small screen with imprecise gestures. The best I've ever experienced was a tab-based interface (LauncherX) on Palm -- you move between screens of applications by rocking left and right, and rock down to choose an app. I had about 40 apps in 5 categories and could get to any of them in 2-3 seconds. The second best was the iPod Touch -- wiping to different screens of apps is fast and something a toddler could pick up in minutes. Third is Blackberry, (trackball) which only has one "page" but supports hierarchical folders. Even at that, you have to choose your app placement carefully to avoid spending all your time opening and closing folders. The absolute worst is tapping "Start", then "Programs", then "Accessories", then "Entertainment" and so forth. Try another gui -- practically any other current mobile gui -- and you'll find that just about any operation is faster and more intuitive.

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    5. Re:how much you want to bet... by roc97007 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Something like that actually happened to me. I picked a custom ring tone for calls from home, and the only time it would play correctly was just after a fresh reboot. If an audible alert - say, from the calendar - had previously sounded, a call from home would lock up the phone. I'm told it was something about part of the OS not releasing the audio driver or something. The solution was not to use custom ring tones.

      I understand how this could be considered a feature, but you have to go home sometime... If wife can't reach me on the phone during the day, I pay for it that evening. And the next day, and the following weekend...

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    6. Re:how much you want to bet... by MartinSchou · · Score: 1

      You just haven't realised how to use bugs/features correctly. Here's how you'd do it:

      "Just have your mother call me and I'll pick her up at the airport."
      [Set phone to use crashy ringtone]

      [Later that night]
      "I'm sorry honey, but every time someone calls me, my phone crashes. It's this new blasted Microsoft Windows thing ... You know how much I love your mother's cooking. Noone's sadder than me that she was arrested for loitering at the airport"

    7. Re:how much you want to bet... by Narnie · · Score: 1

      I paired my WM5 smartphone with a bluetooth keyboard so I could switch between apps and navigate the start menu. I ended up ditching the SDA for the BB Pearl, and ditched the Pearl for the G1--that's been the best move I've made so far. Note: if the iphone and the sidekick2 made a baby, it would be the G1.

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    8. Re:how much you want to bet... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like you either need to upgrade your phone or your wife.

    9. Re:how much you want to bet... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      I did the analysis, and it was much cheaper to upgrade the phone. (Blackberry Bold -- rings every time, and I've never had to reboot it.)

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  21. Hmmm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How about changing the logo to Steve Ballmer?

  22. Who steals my purse steals... by Marko+DeBeeste · · Score: 2
    ...TRASH. But he that filches from me my good name

    Robs me of that which not enriches him,

    And makes me poor indeed.

    Hence, we have here a less than trivial loss

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    1. Re:Who steals my purse steals... by maxume · · Score: 1

      I bet you breath through your lungs.

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  23. Pics... by desinc · · Score: 1

    or it didn't happen?

  24. I've seen that thing already . . . by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 2, Funny

    . . . like, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_can_telephone

    Those executives have big pockets to hold these.

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  25. Microsoft Marketing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To generate awareness Microsoft pretends it has been harmed, then overcomes the obstacle. Why? Because it keeps them in the forefront of people's minds. Harming Microsoft intrigues you and you start to believe that software only revolves around them. It heightens the release of their new software. Suckers.. hahaha. They've been doing this to you for years.

  26. oops! by OrangeTide · · Score: 1

    I was trying to post a reply but my phone blue screened.

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  27. New lows by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 1

    Man, this is the craziest PR leak strategy *ever*.

  28. I bet Hide-a-pod stole it. by mergy · · Score: 1

    I think they have been waiting for an early release model of the Window Mobile phone to start prototyping after the Zune. http://hideapod.com/

  29. An Engadget Editorial on Windows Mobile 6.5 by alvinrod · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I caught this article the other day and it seems like Windows Mobile 6.5 isn't anything to get excited about or a serious threat to any of the other mobile OS's. Seems like more wishful thinking and promises from Microsoft. They're really not making any headway in this area and probably end up throwing more money into it than they'll get back out. Why don't they abandon some of their non-core businesses and find some uncharted areas to expand into instead of throwing money into non-profitable areas where they have no chance of gaining marketshare or mindshare?

    1. Re:An Engadget Editorial on Windows Mobile 6.5 by maxume · · Score: 1

      They can afford to make a few billion dollar bets a year.

      If you ignore the Nasdaq share price (which may or may not be a good idea...), Microsoft looks pretty good over the last few years. Good revenue growth. Good net income growth. Etc.

      To some extent, they are (in the market) getting punished for their size. In absolute terms, Microsoft has grown their operations hilariously more than Google or Apple, but that doesn't count for much when you start at $10 billion a year in income.

      So maybe they need to make a few mistakes to make sure tat they are taking enough chances.

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    2. Re:An Engadget Editorial on Windows Mobile 6.5 by nametaken · · Score: 1

      They probably want the new os for the sake of the new ms marketplace. I expect that's where the money is at. However, ms shot themselves in the foot by removing the dev tools for mobile from visual studio standard and below. STUPID! You'd think one product team over there would talk to another at least once a year. Instead they sunk themselves.

  30. Article title is completely wrong. by jinx90277 · · Score: 2, Informative

    There is nothing in the linked article which implies that a Microsoft-created piece of phone HARDWARE was lost or stolen. All the article states is that a phone with prototype SOFTWARE was lost or stolen.

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    1. Re:Article title is completely wrong. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wait a minute... you actually READ the article??

  31. Here is one for free Microsoft by space_jake · · Score: 1

    Marketing slogan: It's a steal!

  32. Pirates! by scorpivs · · Score: 1

    Same thing Dr. Rodney McKay says, when somebody else, without his help, comes up with anything intuitively obvious.

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    1. Re:Pirates! by scorpivs · · Score: 1

      addendum: My dog is going to eat my homework and I'm not going to take that test because I'm going to be sick that day.

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  33. They'll find it... by yAm · · Score: 1

    ...a couple of days from now, propping up a table in coffee house in Seattle. The barista was quoted, "The guy was trying to his phone to do something, anything. Then he figured out it would stop the table from wobbling. We haven't moved since it's doing a great job..."

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  34. Whatever Apple does, Microsoft Copies... by Jackie_Chan_Fan · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Microsoft is terrible. I hate Apple, but Microsoft is fucking ridiculous.

    A windows marketplace? Are they going to call the programs... Zapps!

    "Hey man, check out my ZunePhone with my Zapps on it!"

    For once... could MS give us quality? JUST ONCE.. QUALITY.

    I'm actually writing this from within Windows 7 beta, and I was just making the discussion to go back to XP 64 because video playback performance in Windows 7 is garbage.

    1. Re:Whatever Apple does, Microsoft Copies... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm actually writing this from within Windows 7 beta, and I was just making the discussion to go back to XP 64 because video playback performance in Windows 7 is garbage.

      It's always funny when someone bitches about Microsoft uality while using one of their operating systems. It's not like there are no other alternatives. You probably should do something rather than complaining.

    2. Re:Whatever Apple does, Microsoft Copies... by rjolley · · Score: 1

      What?! This beta software doesn't work properly?! UNPOSSIBLE!

  35. Publicity by Cassini2 · · Score: 1

    explain again how having ... is supposed to give Microsoft an "edge" over Apple.

    This is gorilla marketing. This story follows a five step plan:

    1. Phone gets stolen from executive. Leak story to press.
    2. The executive's teenage daughter is arrested by police. She became completely addicted to her father's new Zune phone. She comments: "The new Zune phone is amazingly cool."
    3. Make billions of said phone.
    4. ???? (Sell Zune Phones????)
    5. Profit

    At least, that is the story from the marketing department's internal emails ...

    On a more serious note, does anyone have any idea how Microsoft plans to generate significant sales of Microsoft phones? Being a late mover in a competitive marketplace with entrenched successful competition does not scream "Instant Sales" to me ...

    1. Re:Publicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      4. ???? (Sell Zune Phone????)

      There, fixed that for you

    2. Re:Publicity by admactanium · · Score: 1

      explain again how having ... is supposed to give Microsoft an "edge" over Apple.

      This is gorilla marketing.

      That would explain why the honeycomb buttons are so very large. Gorillas have big fingers.

    3. Re:Publicity by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      This is gorilla marketing.

      So Microsoft is monkeying around?

      Perhaps you meant *guerilla* marketing...

    4. Re:Publicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is gorilla marketing.

      Ballmer's in charge?

    5. Re:Publicity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      On a more serious note, does anyone have any idea how Microsoft plans to generate significant sales of Microsoft phones? Being a late mover in a competitive marketplace with entrenched successful competition does not scream "Instant Sales" to me ...

      Dude it's Microsoft, everything they touch turns to gold.

      O wait, that's 'shit', 'turns to shit'. Carry on.

  36. The highly anticipated Zune Phone? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I heard MS was developing a Zune phone. Do you really think it was lost/stolen? I think the exec, accidentally left it on purpose to be lifted. I expect the thief to return it soon.

  37. Will it blend? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This thief should do the right thing and help us answer the one question slashdot needs answered: will it blend? ;-)

  38. Cell-Tower Triangulation by bezking · · Score: 1

    If this rumor is true, why not call the cell carrier and get them to get a position? After all, a crime was committed here...

  39. If this is anything like the Zune... by Turzyx · · Score: 1

    ...I doubt Apple has anything to worry about.

  40. Microsoft announces new Zune-phone by David+Gerard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer today announced a new era at the Seattle software company, announcing their entry six^Wnine^Wtwelve months hence into the cell phone market with the exciting new Zune Phone, to finally get the company properly into the rapidly changing digital media landscape.

    Ballmer, speaking to a group of trained-monkey analysts and cynical bloggers at the company headquarters today, unveiled mockups prototypes of the Zune Phone, which combines the Zune music player (with wifi for "squirting" songs), a CDMA cell phone, a PDA, an eight gigabyte hard disk, a camera, a laser pointer and a bottle opener into one semi-portable device. It will also allow you to "squirt" music to and from your Windows 7^W8 Service Pack 1^W2 Media Center computer.

    The product underscores the shift the company has attempted to make in recent years from an office supply company to a consumer electronics darling as it aims not to become utterly obsolete in the digital future. "And even Linux fanboys admit our hardware is pretty nice," Ballmer said before the somewhat sullen and cynical crowd. "It's definitely the best music player we've ever made."

    Ballmer called the Zune Phone a revolutionary device that will leapfrog current technology. He said the company expects to sell about 100 million of them next year. "Maybe two hundred million. This is so the coolest music player ever." Unlike the MP3 player market, which the iPod has dominated even with the entrance of Microsoft's Zune, the cell phone market is much more fragmented. "There is not one device that everyone buys," said completely independent analyst Rob Enderle, "but this fabulous device should trounce all comers. I've ordered three already in anticipation."

    Weighing in at only 15 ounces (425 grams), with a 5-inch 640-by-480 pixel screen, the $498 (with three-year $80/month contract) Z-Phone, a rebadged version of the LG Smart Display from 2003 with new firmware, looks like a Classic Brown Zune (to come in mission, chocolate, corduroy and meconium) with a phone touchpad in place of its imitation scroll wheel. It runs Windows Mobile, Pocket Internet Explorer, Pocket Microsoft Office, Pocket Solitaire and Pocket Pool. MSN will supply e-mail, mapping, search and other Internet services to the Z-Phone. It also features an amazing 1.3 megapixel (300,000 pixels interpolated) black and white camera. Battery life is estimated at up to four hours in Microsoft tests.

    To better work with its content partners and ensure that you, the user, can rest safe in the knowledge that the artists and their representatives have been paid properly for all their hard work, Microsoft has limited "squirtable" songs to encrypted WMA files purchased from the Zune Music Store, which can be listened to three times or within three days before automatically being deleted from both the Zune Phone and the Media Center computer. Songs may also be "squirted" between two Zune Phones (though not the original Zune) if both are registered with Microsoft as being linked to that installation of Media Center. Users are advised to purchase Microsoft Zune Secure Headphones ($129), which encrypt the signal between the Zune Phone and your ears, as playback quality is degraded on conventional "analog hole" earphones or when playing back unencrypted MP3 files. Phone calls may be made to or received from any number on the network carrier you bought the Zune Phone from, with only a 99-cent charge for humming a song to someone you call or are called by on the phone or ten cents per use of the camera, laser pointer or bottle opener. Microsoft will also pay $20 from each Zune Phone sold to Universal Music. In addition to the ability to "squirt" songs, the user may "squirt" his calls, which are stored on Microsoft Zune Live servers and cost $40 per month to access.

    In other news, Ballmer said that Microsoft had reached over 600 music downloads since introducing it

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    1. Re:Microsoft announces new Zune-phone by Red+Flayer · · Score: 1

      like a Classic Brown Zune (to come in mission, chocolate, corduroy and meconium)

      Awesome. Truly awesome prose, there.

      I hate to just post acclaim (with nothing to add), but that is fantastic.

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    2. Re:Microsoft announces new Zune-phone by David+Gerard · · Score: 1

      I have a toddler. Trust me when I say IT'S ALL ABOUT THE POO.

      (To keep vaguely on-topic, she loves my cheap Chinese MP3 player, and keeps picking it up and holding it to her head like a phone and talking into it.)

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  41. Windows mobile on HTC phones already. by Dukenukemx · · Score: 1

    I'll have Windows Mobile 6.5 on my T-Mobile MDA before Microsoft even releases it. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=480099

  42. It must be the ZunePhone(tm) !! by IGnatius+T+Foobar · · Score: 1

    Cool, they must finally be releasing the ZunePhone(tm) !!

    Check out the ZunePhone on YouTube!

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    1. Re:It must be the ZunePhone(tm) !! by Qetu · · Score: 1

      I prefer the ofone.

  43. They expect to gain an edge by geekoid · · Score: 1

    in a market place against entrenched device by ..offering the same thing.

    Seriously, MS needs to hire me just to tell people no.

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  44. bet it was the same theif ... by porky_pig_jr · · Score: 1

    who stole Windows 7 Beta. Same old, same old.

  45. The Microsoft phone? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    It could be that what was lost wasn't some partner's phone running 6.5, but an original device commissioned by Microsoft. This actually makes sense, as I could see an exec arguing that many of the problems with Windows Mobile is imperfect implementation by the cell phone manufacturers. (Clearly this is an oversimplification, but you could see that being put on a PowerPoint slide.) A closed architecture would allow Microsoft to make sure that the hardware was tightly and properly integrated with Windows. So, for instance, you potentially wouldn't have the issue with some Windows Mobile devices locking up when the user put it in "vibrate" mode. (I had a phone that would consistently do this.)

    Of course, as someone else pointed out, Microsoft has no history of making cell phones, so the results would probably be ghastly. But you could see them making the attempt.

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  46. Phone? by ouachiski · · Score: 1

    But does it work as a phone? Sure touch screens and app stores are nice but I want mine to work as a phone to.

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  47. Why oh why... by V!NCENT · · Score: 1

    ...keep people hyping and posting expectations when you know they're never met. So how about that Cloud OS MS was talking about? Oh wait...

    People: Microsoft only makes patches and small upgrades. The only thing that is top secret at MS is the source code.

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  48. Fixed it for you by hwyhobo · · Score: 1

    sed -e 's/stolen/left/' -e 's/from/on/' -e 's/executive\'s pocket/Starbucks table/' < TFA

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  49. Seriously, folks... by CompMD · · Score: 1

    I know everyone likes to enjoy a good joke at Microsoft's expense, but nobody here is seriously considering what will happen to the thief if he is caught. Theft of a prototype device from a high profile company is enough to get the FBI involved. This could end up very ugly for the thief.

    1. Re:Seriously, folks... by David+Gerard · · Score: 1

      Yes, he'll be sentenced to having to use it.

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    2. Re:Seriously, folks... by spacefiddle · · Score: 1

      Er. Okay. So? If it was some random jerk stealing a random cellphone who didn't (still doesn't?) realize what he's scored, and he's busted, ha ha, screw you thief. If it was industrial espionage and they're busted, ha ha, screw you incompetent thief.

      The reason i'm not considering what happens to the thief is... i don't really care. Except, perhaps, should opportunity present, to point and laugh.

    3. Re:Seriously, folks... by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      Oh yes, let's combine the ineptitude of Microsoft with that of the Justice Department and expect a quick and successful resolution to the incident.

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  50. Re:andnothingofvaluewaslost Off topic my ASS! by davidsyes · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    To whomever marked me off-topic (regrettably, /. cannot foresee the need to create for each story a category called "unattributable anonymous frack's slights" so that responses of negative sentiment don't appear to be aimed at the thread not really responsible...)

    If every one knows it's cronyism, and accepts it, then i guess it IS offtopic. I never DID think /. was anything approaching democratic. This kind of off-topic slight by someone out there (being allowed to stand as marked) just underscores it.

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  51. Should be easy to find... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just use Google Latitude

  52. Re:The "secret" is Moderators? i'll tell you about by davidsyes · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    moderators.

    To get a story posted here, i've wondered whom i'd have to rim or suck to just ONCE not be fucked over by having a well-worn moderator ALWAYS have his/her submission 12 to 15 hours AFTER MINE get posted, and his is basically a paraphrasing of the parent website.

    It's almost becoming a personal point of shame that i even grouse about it, but it sure would be nice if thunder from on high rocked and lightning shocked those who perpetuate cronyism here. One way to put an end to it is to force them to get out of their heads they're NOT going to be getting CNN or BBC or CNET positions by virtue of having a hard-on-raging, ego-as-big-as-Hoover-Dam, 3,442 published submissions. The way to do it is to make sure that when multiple people submit the same story suggestion within a few hours of each other (ESPECIALLY if the never-published person scoops the frat-rat), the scooped gets listed, but below the one scooping. It could enhance the sense of community many of us may mistakenly presume to be here. Most of us end up just shouting at a writing wall, and a handful of moderators (some good, some retaliatory) ultimately have the last laugh.

    Slashdot needs:

    -- a multi-submitter recognition system
    -- a histogrm of scoring, not "most recent score"
    -- a troll-/flambait-/off-topic-/ outing scheme to prevent hit-and-run whackos having anonymity
    -- better meta-association of comments that often get shoved around out of relation/context to their initial parent
    -- a term limit on standing-moderator status

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  53. hip name by myspys · · Score: 1

    they really know how to name things. not something silly and easy to say like "app store".

    Windows Marketplace for Mobiles ftw!

    *sighs*

  54. Look for it in the nearbye trashcan by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    The pickpocket thought he was stealing an iPhone but shortly afterward noticed it was not an iPhone and chucked it into the trash.

    Or...

    The pickpocket tried to use the phone and couldn't get it to work and didn't want to follow a wizard in order to use a phone... then the phone crashed. "F**k it! I'm getting an iPhone."

  55. What a competition by demon+driver · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one reading "Windows Marketplace for Mobiles, which is set to compete with the popular Apple's App Store" and imagining handcuffs competing with bracelets?

    1. Re:What a competition by kjart · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it's probably too early to call the Windows Marketplace bracelets.

  56. I took itt by strangeattraction · · Score: 1

    this thing is greeat. Thee keybooard worrks good. I can ppostt to slaashdot rightt formm myy hpone. MOobile 6.5555555 kickss aaass over 666.0 that I use tooo hav. Itt is raelly fasttt. ANdd checks mmmy speelling which I foor one needd. Theree are harddlly any bugggs. All iin aall it siii the besst thhing I ever stole. 2 thumbss up.

  57. Maybe they dropped it somewhere on purpose. by walter_f · · Score: 1

    Imagine anybody who found it just didn't undergo the effort to tell a journalist about it.

    Then again, maybe anybody who found it did undergo the effort to tell a journalist about it.

    Imagine this journalist just didn't care to write a single line about it.

    "What? Another Win Mobile phone? Labeled TOP SECRET all over? Found it where? Oh yes, I see. Listen, leave me alone, will you?" Click.

    Thus, Disappointment and Despair (D&D) in Redmond growing, and growing, and chairs flying low these days...

    1. Re:Maybe they dropped it somewhere on purpose. by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Sol Trujillo, the Telstra CEO that was given the phone, is not competant enough for this to have been done deliberately. He can't even run an almost complete telecommunications monopoly without it running downhill. This is the sort of man that would go broke selling beer to Australians.

  58. Company name misspelt in article by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Telstra not Telstar.
    And it couldn't have happened to better person.
    Sol Trujillo is a wanker.

    1. Re:Company name misspelt in article by dbIII · · Score: 1
      It was already a wanky misspelling of Telecom in the first place, and I entirely agree with your opinion of the 13 Million dollar man. His latest scheme is to spend millions try to sell currently free mp3 tunes to people in China - pretty obvious that those millions spent are not coming back, and once again it has NOTHING to do with Telstra's core business or abilities.

      For those that haven't heard, Telstra is a partially privatised government monopoly telecommunications company (has aspects of the worst of government and the worst of private enterprise) run by an mexican bandit who is getting well rewarded for epic failures. Neither the shareholders nor the government (which owns a lot of the company via the "future fund") have any control over it. The CEO and 13 million per year bandit, Sol Trujillo, was the one that was given the phone which has now vanished.

  59. The big questions are, of course: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Will Microsoft's phone be the Zune of phones or the Vista of phones or the Microsoft Bob of phones?

    Will Microsoft's phone cost $50 per year to protect it against sloppy, unfinished programming?

    Will customers have to wait for the phone's service pack 3 before it works as it should?

    Will the phone have DRM?

    Will the billionaires who own Microsoft assume that anyone who isn't a billionaire is a criminal, and allow government to spy on the customers?

    1. Re:The big questions are, of course: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Will customers have to wait for the phone's service pack 3 before it works as it should?

      How many revisions the iPhone went through before people stopped screaming about it not working properly on 3G networks?

      Will the phone have DRM?

      Because Apple has never been known for overly restrictive DRM.

      Will the billionaires who own Microsoft assume that anyone who isn't a billionaire is a criminal, and allow government to spy on the customers?

      By now I assume you are listing all the things Apple does/did that you hope MS wont be duplicating

      Its just when apple does it, its not evil, its trendy.

    2. Re:The big questions are, of course: by Lachlan+Hunt · · Score: 1

      The GP didn't mention anything about Apple. You just made the assumption that his questions were based on what Apple has done. But Microsoft has an equally long, if not longer, history of forcing DRM (in some cases, even more restrictive DRM) upon its users. Both Apple and Microsoft are equally guilty when it comes to using DRM and both should be strongly criticised for it.

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  60. Good Marketing Ploy : +4, Informative by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    To keep the Microcrap groupies horney.

    In other news:

    The U.S. signed a peace accord with the Chinese to turn over the United States to China because of the U.S.A. bankrupcy?

    I hope it's true because the Obama plan WON'T work.

    Yours In Communism,
    Kilgore Trout

  61. Your sig has a stupid link by mangu · · Score: 1

    I want world peace just as much as anybody else, but I tried looking at the site in your sig and got stuck at some animation that doesn't show in my browser. Unless those people redo their site in a manner that's shown in any browser configuration without any hassle being necessary from the part of the reader, they won't get the wide attention they presumably want.

    If you happen to have any contact with those people, please inform them that the "http" in "http://p5y.org" stands for "Hyper TEXT Transfer Protocol". Get it? "http" is a method for transferring TEXT, not video.

    1. Re:Your sig has a stupid link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, sweetie. "Hypertext" refers to the way one page can point to another, ie links. If you're going to long for the halcyon days of Netscape Navigator, at least get the appropriate facts straight.

    2. Re:Your sig has a stupid link by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Here is a link that skips the flash intro: http://p5y.org/home, although I believe the video is still in flash format. You can find the video on youtube here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tK6k4IqIdoQ. I don't know how to modify the URL to bring up the non-flash version.

      You are probably less interested in the introduction video, and more interested in the actual plan. The book talking about the plan is available here http://p5y.org/pages/book. You can buy it, or it's a free download (PDF, sorry about that). Some of the major issues are discussed here: http://p5y.org/pages/issues.

      The video is light on facts, and is more like an advertisement, but if we are going to move the world to a place where war is no longer viewed as an acceptable method of conflict resolution, then a good portion of the world is going to be involved, and the fact remains that advertising is still a good method to communicate an idea to a lot of people. But look at it, I think you will find it interesting, even if you remain skeptical.

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    3. Re:Your sig has a stupid link by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Are you retarded or something? Do the pictures of web sites you visit come by mail for you?

  62. easy by speedtux · · Score: 1

    If you want to know what the next Microsoft phone looks like, just have a look at the shipping versions of Android, iPhone, and Symbian...

  63. rebooting isn't so bad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rebooting your phone isn't so bad... unless you have to plug it into a PC to do it.

    1. Re:rebooting isn't so bad by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      It's a phone. It's an appliance. You shouldn't have to reboot your phone any more than you should have to reboot your TV or your car. It boggles the mind why anyone would put up with this.

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  64. It was stolen? by Khyber · · Score: 0

    Can I make the obvious joke, yet? Given how 'secure' Windows is is there ANY surtprise from them having a physical object stolen from them as opposed to a digital one?

    I mean, seriously! You expect a company with a poor track record of OS security to have any CLUE about physical security?

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  65. Re:The "secret" is Moderators? i'll tell you about by davidsyes · · Score: 1

    I'm going to burn some karma... with:

    DAMN YOU you bastard. If you hate me that much, come out from behind that keyboard. But, you won't because it's your refuge, your sanctuary. Dishing out negative points and off-topic as if it fucking doesn't matter that you screw over people who annoy you.

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  66. Somebody stole Ballmer's precious! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What have you gots in your pocket, Baggins?

  67. Amazing by spk037 · · Score: 1

    Thank god for those guys at microsoft and their amazing ability to find untapped markets and innovate technology that enriches our lives. What amazing foresight, touch screen phones and an online app store. wow whooda thunk it ?? I applaud the precognition of these peerless innovators who have demonstrated time and time again, microsoft is the unparalleled, world-class ground breaking trendsetter of the technological world.

  68. What really happened... by careysb · · Score: 1

    The exec went to a local bar to tip back a few and mistakenly left it on the bar-top. Thinking that his bosses might not find that amusing, he made up the pic-pocket story.

  69. Microsoft Innovation.... by duckbillplatypus · · Score: 1

    Maybe their version of an app store will be as wildly popular as their ipod killing zune.

  70. Mea culpa....,mea culpa by sgt_doom · · Score: 1

    Wait...I admit it...I stole the phone. I keep trying M$'s number to give the damn thing back to them, but I keep getting a wrong number. What's up with this damn phone, anyway????

    Wait...a peculiar red telephone booth just appeared next to me...I'll go try the phone inside it..........

  71. Or maybe... by exloterum · · Score: 1

    they started to realize how poorly it was designed so far, so they released it hoping someone else would steal it and take the fall for their mistakes. Then, they can sue them for "stealing" it, and attempt to improve on it from examining all the flamed feedback the thieves received.

  72. Sol Trujillo from TELSTRA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a small typo I know but the linked article says Telstar.
    Sol Trujillo is the head of Australia's biggest telco "TELSTRA" and is majorly responsible for keeping Australia in the dark ages.

  73. Nuh-uh by pnevin · · Score: 1

    It was stolen from a Telstra (not "Telstar", as the article stated) executive.

    As anyone who has had the misfortune of relying on Telstra can attest, this level of incompetence is utterly believable.

  74. How is this gaining an "edge"? by SeaFox · · Score: 1

    "There are fears that leaks regarding the features and early bugs in the software could mar the launch of Windows Mobile 6.5 which the company hopes will give it the edge over the iPhone and the new Google Android operating system.

    Ah, so Microsoft thinks it has some new features that will put it above the competition...

    The new product includes support for touch-screen technology similar to that found on the Apple iPhone. Among the features offered in the new service unveiled by Microsoft's chief executive, Steve Ballmer, on Tuesday, is a version of Windows Marketplace for Mobiles, which is set to compete with the popular Apple's App Store and provide easy ways to download music and products to mobiles. "

    Sounds like everything the competition already has. Yes, Windows Mobile 6.5 will have an edge over the competition by copying all their features and then adding that special Microsoft touch of "quality" and "ease of use".

  75. Overhyped bollocks... by kiwioddBall · · Score: 1

    The phone was a HTC pre-release device running WM6.5 - It was stolen from Telstras Sol Trujillo. Hardly earth shattering. Slashdots journalism standards are so low.

  76. Additionally it has been leaked... by Kaukomieli · · Score: 1

    ...that the new store will entertain a "plays for sure, no really!"-logo.

  77. Trujillo (Telstra Aus) was the wanker who lost it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And the wanker who lost it was none other than Telstra Australia's CEO Sol Trujillo (US reject). He's shown how incapable he is of running Australia's largest telco and wannabe ISP (shares are at an all time low and service is pathetic) and they also failed to submit a proper bid for the national broadband tender. But of course he will head back to the US soon with his tail between his legs and a big fat payout for his incompetence, along with the rest of his failed team of amigos.

  78. M$ copying apply some more by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Haven't people begun to realize that M$ has always copied Apple poorly. Why buy their inferior good? They charge almost as much, and in some cases more than the superior good. The iPhone is really neat and Balmer thinks that the M$ version of it will be popular. I doubt it. Who cares that people see them acting as the runner up again. Nothing newsworthy here

  79. I know where it is by sglines · · Score: 1

    They gave it to Obama.