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Did Google Go Instant Just To Show More Ads?

eldavojohn writes "Google, already the largest search engine in the United States, went instant a few weeks ago. MIT's Tech Review asks why Google went instant and is skeptical that users actually look at search results before they finish typing their query. Othar Hansson, Google's lead on the initiative, informs them otherwise and claims that Google's traffic monitors didn't even blink at the extra data being sent across — primarily because of its insignificance next to streaming one video on YouTube. Hansson also reveals that Google's search engine is no longer stateless and therefore takes up a little more memory in their server hives. The Tech Review claims that 'sources at the company say Google Instant's impact on ad sales was a primary focus in testing the service. Google only gets paid for an advertisement, or sponsored link, when a user clicks on the ad, and ads are targeted to specific searches. By displaying a search's ads onscreen a couple of seconds sooner, the frequency of users clicking on those ads could only go up.' So money seemed to be the prime motivator and the article also coyly notes that the average length of time a user spends between typing in any two characters is 300 milliseconds — much too fast for old JavaScript engines. Of course, you might recall Google's efforts to change all that with JavaScript speed wars. Do you find Google Instant to be useful in any way, or does it strike you as just more ad gravity for your mouse?"

250 comments

  1. Search by somersault · · Score: 1

    I do most of my search via the Chrome address bar or on my mobile, I didn't even notice this feature existed. Thanks for the awesome clean browser interface and faster JavaScript though Google :)

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    1. Re:Search by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

      According to a bug filed, Google Instant is coming to the Chrome omnibox... I personally like Google Instant. :)

    2. Re:Search by cmiller173 · · Score: 1

      Agreed, similarly most of my searches are from the search box in Firefox, I rarely go to the actual Google page anymore. And when I do go to a Google page it's my iGoogle page which does not seem to have instant enabled. About the only time I see instant is if I am at a search results page and go to change the search on that page.

    3. Re:Search by Suki+I · · Score: 1

      Same on Chrome for my laptop, but it has given choices there for a while or I just didn't notice the switch.

      I am actually someone who does pick from the drop down choices if it finds what I am looking for before I finish typing on Google.Com.

    4. Re:Search by Vintermann · · Score: 1

      I use iGoogle too, but from work I've had occasion to use the instant search for a while. It really is useful in my experience. It sort of feels like the autoprediction has made a big leap forward (although that could just be the perception).

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    5. Re:Search by AvitarX · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I do too, but I actually like the instant results when i end up on a google.com page.

      I can quickly look at the top 3 or 4 results scrolling down the suggestions. Previously I would have to guess which suggestion was best and search.

      Not earth shattering, but not the useless annoyance I thought it would be. It makes it slightly easier to find the correct search term before wading through results.

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    6. Re:Search by jgagnon · · Score: 1

      I like it, too, but I've found myself using their HTTPS connection more than anything as of late. I do, however, switch back to the standard Google (with instant search) when I need a specific kind of search like for images.

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    7. Re:Search by cygnwolf · · Score: 1

      Most of the time I browse in Fire fox and use 'HTTPS Anywhere', so I'm not usually seeing Google instant at all. And even when I do switch to other browsers for something, I usually type so fast anyway I don't have time to pay attention to the ads that flash by while I type a search term. So yeah, not really an issue one way or the other for me.

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    8. Re:Search by adamdoyle · · Score: 1

      How does that work? Wouldn't you already have to be on google.com? And if so, there's not really any advantage of typing it into the omnibar. If not, then what? Typing into the omnibar takes you away from your current webpage and redirects you do google.com. I certainly wouldn't want that.

    9. Re:Search by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, I thought this sounded like results being live rather than the auto completion of search terms, which has been around for years.. I like the auto-completion, it's interesting to see what other people search for, or how to correctly spell odd words/names! Also on a device like my phone where it takes longer to type, the auto completion is great.

    10. Re:Search by GravityStar · · Score: 1

      Ditto. Besides, the google homepage fade-in effect annoys me. So I use the classic google/firefox homepage, in all of my browsers, including IE.

    11. Re:Search by AvitarX · · Score: 1

      I think the live results make the auto completion more useful.

      I can type a word like "checkers" press down a few times and compare the results of "checkers ruls" vs "Checkers game" before going into the results page.

      I like it.

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    12. Re:Search by wunderbus · · Score: 1

      No you don't have to be on google.com. It loads google.com in the content area as soon as you start typing and your typing in the omnibar is reflected on the page. Pages loaded in this manner have a button in the upper left corner that, when you press it, takes away the page and shows you what was "underneath" - whatever you were viewing previously.

      It does something else too, and given the general reaction here to Google Instant I think the slashdot crowd is going to HATE it. If the omnibox was going to autocomplete your typing into a full URL, as it does with URLs you've typed in the omnibox previously, it won't show you Google Instant results at all. It will simply load that URL.

      I couldn't believe they included that behavior at first. After about 10 minutes of normal browsing I realized it worked incredibly well for me, given my normal browsing behavior. I will definitely make use of it when it's released in a more polished state. I forsee problems with this feature though for people who frequently visit sites that cause strain on their computers or have autoplaying video, modal alert boxes, etc.

      Even despite that, it currently has some severe problems. Problem #1 is that google.com flags you as a robot and prevents you from doing further searches after using it for a while. Problem #2 is that it completely spams your history - every character you type is a separate entry in your history. I'm sure those issues will be resolved before the feature makes it into the stable or beta builds though.

  2. No, not useful to me... by thoughtsatthemoment · · Score: 1

    ... and I've switched to the advanced search page.

    1. Re:No, not useful to me... by Shanrak · · Score: 3, Informative

      the https page works too, or you can just disable it in the settings tab.

      Most of the time when I accidentally go to the none https page, I find instant search annoying since I usually know what I'm searching for and I'm done typing before most of the page finishes spazzing out anyway.

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    2. Re:No, not useful to me... by M.+Baranczak · · Score: 1

      Thanks for the info. I've turned it off, and Google is now usable again.

    3. Re:No, not useful to me... by thoughtsatthemoment · · Score: 1

      I'll stick with the advanced page for a while as the suggestions here are what you have typed before, not what are fetched from google. It reminds me of some old time and I kinda like it for now.

    4. Re:No, not useful to me... by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

      I've got another suggestion, change search engine, https://startpage.com/ Google needs to feel the heat of competition, remember at any single point in time going with the monopolists sounds like the best idea, but it's bad in the long term.

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    5. Re:No, not useful to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Leave Google to use a search engine that defaults to getting its web results from YahooBing?

      Bwahahahahahahahaha...

      This is what you call competition? Oh, I get it. Is that the faint smell of fresh 'turf in the morning?

    6. Re:No, not useful to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Use Duck Duck Go instead. Google is a POS.

    7. Re:No, not useful to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Electric company seems to be doing okay. Do you generate your own power?

    8. Re:No, not useful to me... by allo · · Score: 0

      bing is the biggest competition. you will get the best results beside google from bing, soon. you cannot call them better or worse, search results cannot be compared if they are almost the same quality, because then both have sometimes an advantage over the other one and comparing is never accurate. you can only see "good results" or "shitty results". and bing will have good results, too.

    9. Re:No, not useful to me... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      google from bing, soon. you cannot call them better or worse

      Bwahahahahahahaha... oh, shit. Tell me another one, man. Somebody, please tip this guy.

    10. Re:No, not useful to me... by Requiem18th · · Score: 1

      Indeed, I simply redirect AC replies to a large composter.

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    11. Re:No, not useful to me... by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      ixquick/startpage has also always been very slow compared to google.

      Lately, I've been putting up with it, since I'm not about to keep google cookies around between sessions, but I think I'll play with the recommendation for DuckDuckGo for a bit.

  3. Wrong by Hatta · · Score: 3, Insightful

    By displaying a search's ads onscreen a couple of seconds sooner, the frequency of users clicking on those ads could only go up.'

    By displaying ads for shorter periods of time, click frequency will actually go down.

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    1. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      They didn't say the click through rate, but frequency of clicks. Meaning x clicks per day, as opposed to x clicks per hundred impressions. They were most certainly correct, and I see nothing wrong with what Google has done here.

    2. Re:Wrong by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Doesn't work that way.

      You type

      big

      and you get a list of "big" sites and "big" ads

      you continue to type

      horse

      and the results and ads change to "big horse" sites

      you finish typing

      breeding

      and you get results and ads for "big horse breeding" which is the same as you had before.

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      Looks like google is hoping some users notice and click on the "big" and "big horse" ads.

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    3. Re:Wrong by nschubach · · Score: 1

      I don't see these ads you speak of...

      I just disabled adblock to see if that's what was blocking these ads, but the Google Instant page simply has no ads.

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    4. Re:Wrong by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      I'm in firefox 3.6.10 with adblock and noscript (but allow google script) and that's how it is working for me.

      I get a "Big Lots" ad for "big" and then it changes to "US Polo Association Shirts Big" for big horse and finally "Horse Mating" for "big horse breeding".

      I didn't do that at iGoogle. it does that at Google.

      http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS393&=&q=big&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=C3nkDaZ6XTI6CNZz0ygTJ84WADgAAAKoEBU_Q9swx#hl=en&expIds=25345,25657,25856,26515&sugexp=ldymls&xhr=t&q=big+horse+breeding&cp=18&pf=p&sclient=psy&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS393&aq=f&aqi=g2g-o1&aql=&oq=big+horse+breeding&gs_rfai=&pbx=1&fp=6f32b8af52b7e0b8

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    5. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      more common keywords are more expensive to advertise on that more specific ones.

    6. Re:Wrong by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Odd, I'm on FF 3.6.3 (yeah, I need to update) with only Adblock Plus (disabled) and Firebug plugins and I get no ads.

      Are you logged in? (Maybe since I'm logged in they don't show? I don't know.)

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    7. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You realize that the ads show up in a similar format to the searches not as banner ads. Look for the different background or "sponsored links".

    8. Re:Wrong by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 1
      I'm going to have to call B.S. I am having a hard time believing that you're typing in the words
      1. "big"
        "horse"
        "breeding"

      and the only ads coming up are for Big Lots and Polo Shirts. I mean, maybe it's just me, but that query sounds awfully ripe for some *ahem* Adults Only type of ads.

    9. Re:Wrong by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Yes, I realize that. But I only see the search results. No sponsored links, no special background or divider. Just relevant search links/sites.

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    10. Re:Wrong by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      It doesn't do this from igoogle. So if you just browsed to "google.com" or you are signed in, enter a search- which then sends you to the normal/old google page with your selected search text. It displays fixed results.
      Then click in the search text box and change the text.

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    11. Re:Wrong by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      lol...
      but seriously

      "Big" is no adult ads and almost all "big lots"... including

      #
      Big Lots Careers(Hiring Now)
      Big Lots Careers open in Your Area. App Immediately.
      Big-Lots.Jobsidic.com
      Related to big lots employment:
      #
      Big Lots Job Application
      Apply For 892 Jobs in Your Area. Make $8-$60/Hour. Hiring Now!
      www.JobsRadar.com
      #
      Big Lots Employment
      $10-$55/Hour. Found: 386 Jobs In Your Area. Hiring Now!
      www.JobsOnline.net

      "Big Horse"
      No adult ads.
              Us Polo Assn. Big Horse Multi Logo Polo
      $17.99 - Sears
              Us Polo Assn. Short Sleeve Big Horse Polo
      $12.99 - Sears

            1.
                  Embroidered Polo Shirts
                  Corporate Apparel Specialists Free Embroidery Free Shipping
                  www.ProGolfShirts.com
            2.
                  Polo Shirts
                  Low cost Blank or Embroidered Free Shipping orders over $60
                  www.CompanyCasuals.com/uniformsbypr
            3.
                  Equestrian T-shirts
                  1000+ Designs on T-shirts, Hoodies & Polos for Equestrian Lovers!
                  www.CafePress.com

      "Big Horse Breeding"
      no adult ads
      Sponsored links

            1.
                  Horse Breeding
                  Find Texas Horse Breeding Texas' Online Local Search.
                  Texas.local.comTexas
            2.
                  Horses Mating
                  Find more sources/options for Horses Mating
                  webcrawler.com/horses_mating

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      yes I was thinking of big 8008's at first and changed to horses to be work safe.

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    12. Re:Wrong by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Sorry for the double post, but this is what I get when I search for "javascript":
      http://i.imgur.com/y8lCh.png

      (I only cut off the top bar with my username and some of the bottom results... there were no ads down there either.)

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    13. Re:Wrong by radtea · · Score: 1

      By displaying ads for shorter periods of time, click frequency will actually go down.

      And by annoying more users to install various ad-block products the click frequency will also go down, so the article's "it just makes sense" claim that click-throughs will go up is, like all such claims, suspect at best.

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    14. Re:Wrong by Grygus · · Score: 1

      I would think at this point that anyone annoyed by ads has already taken the necessary steps to preclude them. I've seen this in action and it isn't very obtrusive; if this bothers you then so does most of the Internet, and you are already running NoScript, AdBlock, or both.

    15. Re:Wrong by Critical+Facilities · · Score: 1

      I'm glad you caught the humor, and didn't take me as trying to troll you there. Just out of curiosity, what you you have your Google "Safe Search" threshold set to? Maybe I just have a warped mind, but I honestly am a little surprised that those 3 search terms didn't turn up anything....uh....blue.

    16. Re:Wrong by stephanruby · · Score: 1

      Try Google Chrome in Incognito mode (assuming you don't allow your Chrome extensions to run in Incognito mode, which personally I do not). If you still don't get ads, even with Chrome in Incognito (I personally get four when I type your example), may be they're being blocked through your host file, through your company's firewall, or through something like Peerguardian. If you don't remember modifying your host file, may be you used some spyware removal tool like Spywareblaster that did it for you.

      In any case, Google Instant does show sponsored links on the side (although, we believe you, it obviously doesn't show on your screenshot).

      And by the way, Google Instant is super useful to me at least, but then again I wouldn't type 'big horse breeding'. If I had such an interest, I'd usually start it with 'horse breeding' (without the single quote marks of course), and then if I wanted to fine-tune my results, I'd add the qualifier at the end just like this: 'horse breeding big'. Personally, I rarely think of using a qualifier unless I've already looked at the initial search results, that may not be the best way, but that's the way I've been used to searching for things even before Google Instant came along (but then may be, that's just me, your search behavior may be different).

      And if Google Instant is useful to me at least, it only stands to reason that its instant ads might be useful to me as well (assuming I could see them, because like everyone else here I usually only search for things with my adblocker turned on). And no, it's not the google sponsored links on the search results page that I try to avoid (although, those are still part of the collateral damage of my adblocker), aside from the banner advertisements from other ad networks which are the worst, it's usually the google sponsored links that are smack in the middle of an article, a blog post, or a forum post, that break my search flow, that also do annoy me.

    17. Re:Wrong by Maxo-Texas · · Score: 1

      Looks like "Use moderate filtering (Filter explicit images only - default behavior)"

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    18. Re:Wrong by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Umm, don't take this the wrong way, but I don't think I want to see your search history.

  4. NEWS FLASH! Google Makes Money On Ads! by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Google doesn't make money by selling searches to "end users", they make money by selling ads. So this new "functionality" is a surprise how?

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    1. Re:NEWS FLASH! Google Makes Money On Ads! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't "know". Why did you think anyone was "surprised"?

    2. Re:NEWS FLASH! Google Makes Money On Ads! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just read through the thread. Some people are acting surprised.

    3. Re:NEWS FLASH! Google Makes Money On Ads! by nospam007 · · Score: 1

      Company tries to earn money. More news at eleven.

  5. What ads? by tibbetts · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What are these "ads" of which you speak? Sincerely, Just Another AdBlock user

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    1. Re:What ads? by Frosty+Piss · · Score: 1

      And you call your PC a "boxen" too, right?

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    2. Re:What ads? by forkfail · · Score: 0

      Boxen is the plural of box. Thus, saying "a boxen" has no meaning.

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    3. Re:What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      No, but maybe he calls two or more of his computers 'boxen'.

    4. Re:What ads? by stewbacca · · Score: 1

      Nerds use boxen to prove their nerd-cred. Calling your computer a "box" is nerdy enough for most non-nerds.

    5. Re:What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      No, it isn't. Boxes is the plural of box. Boxen is a quick way of saying that you are the sort of person who gives elitism a bad name.

    6. Re:What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of course not! "Boxen" is plural, and I typically use one PC at a time.

      All bets are off for those uber-nerds who use multiple "boxen" at once.

    7. Re:What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are these "ads" of which you speak? Sincerely, Just Another AdBlock user

      What a strange post... I never feel smug if I'm freeloading.

    8. Re:What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Much better than calling it a "hard drive" ;-)

    9. Re:What ads? by pm_rat_poison · · Score: 1

      And how do you feel about calling the process of filtering out unsolicited pieces of information from a server you didn't even choose to visit "freeloading?"
      Maybe smug is the word you're looking for. Oh, wait...

    10. Re:What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dozen is the plural of doze. So when you take two naps you are dozen.

    11. Re:What ads? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > What are these "ads" of which you speak?

      Something that many Slashdotters complain about endlessly and bitterly despite the fact that blocking them is trivial.

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    12. Re:What ads? by NJRoadfan · · Score: 1

      Actually, yes it is trivial. Slashdot gives me the option to remove them.

    13. Re:What ads? by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1

      I remember back in College during the recruiting fair most tech companies were giving out free t-shirts with their logos. One friend of mine said to another, "You have a URL on your shirt, NERD!" to which he responded, "What's a URL, NERD?"

    14. Re:What ads? by nschubach · · Score: 1

      Even if I disable adblock, I see no ads on Google Instant. I must be missing something.

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    15. Re:What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      boxen is the plural of box, so, if you only have one box, no matter how nerdy you are you should only call it a box or you're just plain wrong.

    16. Re:What ads? by fishbowl · · Score: 1

      Seriously, I didn't know until I read this thread that Google searches had ads.

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    17. Re:What ads? by Mr_Insightful · · Score: 0

      I must be missing something.

      Nah, you're not missing anything...

    18. Re:What ads? by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      Much better than calling it a "hard drive" ;-)

      Back when I did "Computer Support for Friends of Friends", the one that would instantly get 30% added to my fees was calling it a "modem."

    19. Re:What ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "a boxen"? Hand in your geek card on the way out.

  6. Turned it off by 0racle · · Score: 1

    I turned it off the moment it showed up. I know what I'm typing in and I want to search on the whole set of words. All google instant did was make it look like google going through some sort of fit.

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    1. Re:Turned it off by PetiePooo · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Same here. There was an about link and a description of how to disable it that I searched for (pardon the pun) as soon as they turned on instant searches.

    2. Re:Turned it off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's not a pun. Irony, maybe, but certainly no pun.

    3. Re:Turned it off by Sardak · · Score: 1

      I didn't even need to turn it off, as apparently it doesn't work for me for whatever reason. However, if it did, I would turn it off from what I've heard about it. I type relatively fast and generally know exactly what I intend to type before the page even loads, so it's a fairly useless feature. Let me know when they allow verbatim searches. I'm really tired of it mangling my quoted strings to offer more results that have nothing to do with what I searched for.

    4. Re:Turned it off by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1

      I did too, however every time I restart my browser it's back on. I only store cookies during the current session, and that instant search setting gets wiped away each time I close the browser.

  7. Profit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Oh my god, Google wants to make money from it's advertising arm. This is shocking news, we should all boycott them now for someone who provides all services for free.

    1. Re:Profit! by Locutus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      and did I just read that Google wanted to boost JavaScript performance so they could show ads faster? Those evil people! I'm going back to Internet Explorer and BING were things are slower and never evil.

      LoB

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    2. Re:Profit! by stewbacca · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Advertising is not just an "arm" of Google. It IS Google.

    3. Re:Profit! by pitchpipe · · Score: 0

      Oh my god, Google wants to make money from it's advertising arm. This is shocking news, we should all boycott them now for someone who provides all services for free.

      I certainly get that they are in the business of making money. (Aren't we all?) But with how much they attempt to and actually track me I'm just not comfortable with giving them all of my info anymore. You see this with almost every (large) company out there: they start out with a pretty good product that sprang from some ideals (other search engines suck, interfaces for devices should be simple). They truly seem to want to improve products and experiences for people while making a buck to boot. They continue with these ideals to the point where their product becomes the top of the market. Shortly thereafter a subtle shift in priorities happens: making the buck moves to the top of the priority list. Then begins the long slow decline, and pretty soon they're just another run of the mill large company that is out to see just how much money they can wring from their customers. I see it over and over. It's sad.

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    4. Re:Profit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Came here to post this.

      Google is a company which makes its money through advertising, which it sells by making free services (this bit costs money) that people find useful and putting ads in them, in an unobtrusive way and generally useful way.

      OP seems to have a problem with this business model, and the fact that Google is a business not a charity. This makes them a complete and utter retard.

    5. Re:Profit! by Spewns · · Score: 1

      Came here to post this.

      ...

      I think everyone did.

      Google is a company which makes its money through advertising, which it sells by making free services (this bit costs money) that people find useful and putting ads in them, in an unobtrusive way and generally useful way.

      OP seems to have a problem with this business model, and the fact that Google is a business not a charity. This makes them a complete and utter retard.

      I don't understand how paid commercial ads could ever be "useful" to those exposed to them. Thankfully there are things like Adblock Plus.

    6. Re:Profit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're very useful in that companies pay Google money to put the ads there, the ad money pays for the free services, and then the ads themselves bounce right off everyone's AdBlock plugin.

      Hmm...

    7. Re:Profit! by tophermeyer · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I don't understand how paid commercial ads could ever be "useful" to those exposed to them. Thankfully there are things like Adblock Plus.

      One could make the argument that accurately targeted ads do benefit the user. They make me aware of products I might be interested in that I was not previously aware of.

      The big reason of course is that those commercial ads are funding the awesome free services that I use all the time. The ads themselves may not benefit me, but they allow Google to keep on doing its thing, which does benefit me.

      For the same reason I still allow Slashdot to display me advertisements. I have the option to disable advertising, but I don't. If a service relies on advertising dollars to function and I enjoy the service, then it is in my best interests in making sure the advertisers feel like they can reach out to me through that service. Adblock is fine on an individual level. But If everyone used it then advertisers would stop paying money to post ads.

    8. Re:Profit! by dcollins · · Score: 1

      "One could make the argument that accurately targeted ads do benefit the user. They make me aware of products I might be interested in that I was not previously aware of."

      Only on Slashdot do you ever see this opinion.

      As just one example, compare to the upset/outrage in yesterday's article on "children tracked online by advertisers". Average folks intensely do not like this when you inform them about it.

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    9. Re:Profit! by drasfr · · Score: 1

      I am like a lot of people, I really don't like ads. I -hate- those flash annoying ads, animated junks, popup under, whatever... I never click on those.

      but... I do admit that google ads have never bothered me.

      There are not obtrusive, quick to load, usually straight to the point. I have discovered many interesting websites/products because of those.

      I can't believe I am saying that, but I do like google ads, mostly.

    10. Re:Profit! by radtea · · Score: 1

      One could make the argument that accurately targeted ads do benefit the user.

      But one can then make the obvious argument that if that were the case users would be willing to pay to get targeted ads.

      Yet somehow no one ever tries that. It's almost like users see ads, targeted or otherwise, as obtrusive annoyances they are willing to put up with for the sake of the service or content.

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    11. Re:Profit! by CarpetShark · · Score: 0

      Oh my god, Google wants to make money from it's advertising arm. This is shocking news, we should all boycott them now for someone who provides all services for free.

      Many a true word spoken in jest.

    12. Re:Profit! by martin-boundary · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yet somehow no one ever tries that.

      Two words: newspaper classifieds. That's a (historical in some places) example where readers are willing to pay just to see ads. I'm sure there are other examples out there.

    13. Re:Profit! by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      in an unobtrusive way and generally useful way.

      That's rather subjective. I personally find Instant's constant self-updating VERY obtrusive and so un-useful that, since it's the default, it's required me to seek alternatives.

    14. Re:Profit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One could make the argument that accurately targeted ads do benefit the user. They make me aware of products I might be interested in that I was not previously aware of.

      For me, Google's text ads are in that occasionally-useful zone, rather than the purely-annoying territory that the rest of the internet's ads occupy. But I use Adblock, because an internet full of ads is horrible - and on about half of my computers, I never get around to adding an exception for Google. Too much effort, for too little reward.

  8. I just shut it off. by seeker_1us · · Score: 1, Informative

    The instant feature was annoying and useless.

  9. I find it annoying by Artifice_Eternity · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I turned it off as soon as I figured out how.

    I don't want results before I even finish formulating my search request. It's distracting and confusing: a burst of visual noise while I'm trying to focus on what I'm typing in the search box (which I may decide to change as I'm typing it).

    Why do I want to read results of a search that doesn't even represent my complete inquiry?

    1. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      It moves a lot of text around. Its an extreme visual flicker, and also, if you're fast with the mouse on machine with high load or occasionally hit the keyboard, you cannot click the correct links anymore. Turned off at least until they preserve locations of the lines of text and links while typing.

    2. Re:I find it annoying by Zerth · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Contrarily, much as I like the "suggested searches/autocomplete" feature to help refine my searches, I also like seeing the results for the parts of my search as I type. Frequently, I'll see the results I want before I even finish typing.

      On the other hand, it bloats up the search page, but it can be turned off when I'm using an older computer.

    3. Re:I find it annoying by commodore64_love · · Score: 2

      >>>Why do I want to read results of a search that doesn't even represent my complete inquiry?

      It sometimes saves typing if Google guesses what you're typing halfway through. That could be useful for users, but I turned it off for a different reason: It slows down Dialup, ISDN, Cellular, and other slow connections to a crawl.

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    4. Re:I find it annoying by tchuladdiass · · Score: 3, Interesting

      It seems like it is more annoying for those who touch type faster. I can see it being useful if you are a slow typist, but for me I turned off. The most annoying "feature" is it will do the search on the first predicted result that is on the dropdown list. So you type in the first couple words, and the search results are based on the next one or two words that they think you were going to type, which is nothing like what you were looking for.

    5. Re:I find it annoying by mldi · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Exactly. I ABHORE this new feature with a fiery passion. The fact that it's on by default is annoying, and the fact that you actually have to start typing in the search box in order to even turn it off is more annoying... but the fact that once you turn it off, you lose your query and start over from scratch just tops it off. I rage every time.

      One of the reasons I used Google over other search engines before was it's simplicity. There was no huge annoying banner ads or other distractions. Now there is.

      It may be time to venture out and try some others once again.

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    6. Re:I find it annoying by catbutt · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Once you turn it off, it stays off. Is that really such a problem that you had to turn it off once per computer?

    7. Re:I find it annoying by Artifice_Eternity · · Score: 4, Interesting

      If your browser is set to clear cookies every time it closes, then you have to turn it off again every time you start using Google in a new browser session.

    8. Re:I find it annoying by mldi · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Once you turn it off, it stays off. Is that really such a problem that you had to turn it off once per computer?

      Because it's once per session, yes, it is indeed a problem.

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    9. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I am also very put out by this feature. As an example for why it's so terrible, I was searching for some SQL subselect help at work the other day (natch, I'm at work now...). The first search I tried started out "How to insert..." Google instant helpfully popped up image search results for "How to insert a tampon". Google: NSFW (beta).

    10. Re:I find it annoying by Nimey · · Score: 2, Informative

      Nimey's Internet Observation #1: People who write a word in CAPS to emphasize it nearly always mis-spell it.

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    11. Re:I find it annoying by mldi · · Score: 1

      Haha, oops, caught me. *blushes*

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    12. Re:I find it annoying by dmomo · · Score: 2

      Same here. I don't like that it's the default, because i have to shut it off everytime I clear my cookies or use a new computer. Luckily we can turn it off, because it's something as petty as this that would prompt me to use a competing search engine. They all pretty much give me the results I wand these days. Google simply wins because of Muscle Memory.

    13. Re:I find it annoying by Nimey · · Score: 1

      The most frequent one would have to be the various misspellings of "ridiculous", usually with the first i swapped for an e.

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    14. Re:I find it annoying by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

      I love it - because often I'm not really sure *what* I want to search for, so when I get some autocomplete suggestions that can be nice. With the new results popping up now, I often find things that autocomplete wouldn't give me, which is pretty cool.

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    15. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I wouldn't have called this out had you not emphasized it, but you're looking for "ABHOR".

    16. Re:I find it annoying by GIL_Dude · · Score: 1

      There seems to be a polarization of views on this: some (many? here anyway) hate it, others really really like it. I'm in the middle ground. I like being able so simply type "w" and have the weather for my location show up instead of having to type in something like "weather.com" zip code enter or keeping an iGoogle page open. It is much faster for me to do movie time searches too, because it generally displays the times for the movie I want at the theater I want BEFORE I have finished typing the name of the movie (I'll often only get halfway through typing the name in). That is obviously more efficient for me than having to type the whole thing and press enter (or click search).

      Other times I will agree it brings back more noise than anything - especially on the occasions where your intended search phrase starts with pretty generic terms and progresses to more specific. I think my main takeaway from that though is that I need to learn to search more efficiently using instant search - perhaps starting my query with the more specific terms. For example, with the old search I could have blithely typed in a query like "Internet Explorer issue with Kerberos using CNAME for SPN on Windows 7". With instant search it would be better to type these in a different order like "Kerberos CNAME Windows 7" and I would probably already have my answer in the top couple of results at that point. So perhaps I just need to get more used to it - modify my behavior to take advantage of the power of instant search (and the prediction engine it uses) and eventually move from the "sort of ambivalent, but it has its uses" camp into the "I really like it" camp.

    17. Re:I find it annoying by aztracker1 · · Score: 1

      I have to agree on this one... A lot of times I am doing a generic search, and the brief summaries are enough to narrow it down better, or a better search term. Once I start typing that visual reference is now gone.. :/

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    18. Re:I find it annoying by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      It isn't on for me at all (not that I'd want it). I assume that's because I block Google cookies and don't allow JS.

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    19. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This feature lasted 15 seconds. Then Google went back on the NoScript block list.

    20. Re:I find it annoying by Pharmboy · · Score: 2, Informative

      I am also very put out by this feature. As an example for why it's so terrible, I was searching for some SQL subselect help at work the other day (natch, I'm at work now...). The first search I tried started out "How to insert..." Google instant helpfully popped up image search results for "How to insert a tampon". Google: NSFW (beta).

      Ok, that is pretty damn funny, and tests out exactly as you state. Sounds like a new idea for a new blog, all the bad partial searches on Google.

      I started with a very, very common quest: "How do you " and my options were:

      how do you dougie
      how do you get pregnant
      how do you get scabies

      So all I conclude is that most people are looking for 'how to' advice on very different stuff than the average nerd.

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    21. Re:I find it annoying by cain · · Score: 1

      It may be time to venture out and try some others once again.

      I've been using duck duck go for about a month and like it. Firefox integration, !bang syntax (!flickr, !youtube, !gimages, etc), keyboard shortcuts, fall over to Google if it doesn't find anything, etc. Good stuff.

    22. Re:I find it annoying by jbengt · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Speaking of muscle memory, I know this sounds lame, but, in addition to the distracting visual jitter, one of the things that annoy me about this "instant search" is that when I'm done typing and hit enter - nothing happens.

    23. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I try other search engines from time to time, but I haven't found one yet that yields better results (or even as good of results) as google does. I always find myself clicking through several pages of results before giving up and using google anyway.

    24. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      use the address below for google in your favourites:

      http://www.google.com/webhp?complete=0&hl=en

      no instant, no auto-suggest, no fade in, no bullshit.

    25. Re:I find it annoying by mldi · · Score: 1

      Someone mod cain's post up! That's a nice find, thanks!

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    26. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hmm. That is certainly an interesting anecdote. I personally see it switch instant to off (and show on the screen that it is because of a slow connection). I've seen it switch to off periodically even on a comcast cable connection. Of course mine is an anecdote too, but it does show that the design is intended to spare these slower connection types. Perhaps the speed detection doesn't work correctly for some scenarios?

    27. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      If your browser is set to clear cookies every time it closes, then you have to turn it off again every time you start using Google in a new browser session.

      Firefox
      + NoScript

      Right-click icon on task bar. Click 'forbid google.com'. Now u have them without Java, no auto searching B.S. You can add sites like google-analytics.com to the permanent untrust list.

      Of course that also blocks the fancy bits of your gmail and other google.com services, but you can still use them just fine if you don't mind the slightly older, java-free style.

    28. Re:I find it annoying by commodore64_love · · Score: 1

      >>>I personally see it switch instant to off (and show on the screen that it is) because off a slow connection

      My Dialup provider appears to be high-speed because it (1) grabs the whole page and then (2) compresses it followed by (3) streaming it across the phone line. Ditto if you have Opera with Turbo enabled. Since it appears to be a high-speed line google leaves instant turned-on.

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    29. Re:I find it annoying by BJ_Covert_Action · · Score: 1

      It may be time to venture out and try some others once again.

      Might I suggest DuckDuckGo.com? I've been using it a month or so now and for most topics it returns more relevant results to my query than Google does. However, for obscure of super-specialized searches, it does fall a bit short of Google.

    30. Re:I find it annoying by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > I've been using duck duck go...

      "This site requires JavaScript"

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    31. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm trying to decide if you were being ironic by improperly putting a dash in the word 'misspell'

    32. Re:I find it annoying by Ponga · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I generally hate auto-complete. MOST annoying is when entering a US zip code to get the weather, such as on Yahoo... auto-complete for a zip code is about the stupidest use I've seen yet. I do however like the auto-complete feature on certain things, like constrained fields. As an example, I would much rather type "Uni" and have "United Kingdom", "United States", "United Arab Emerites" appear from which I can select from, rather than fishing down a long drop-down list. In this case, auto-complete makes sense. But for things like Google search... annoying at best. --ponga

    33. Re:I find it annoying by wondafucka · · Score: 2, Funny

      I turned it off as soon as I figured out how.

      I don't want results before I even finish formulating my search request. It's distracting and confusing: a burst of visual noise while I'm trying to focus on what I'm typing in the search box (which I may decide to change as I'm typing it).

      Why do I want to read results of a search that doesn't even represent my complete inquiry?

      This is why you will be replaced by someone much more interesting than yourself.

    34. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Heh, a tinfoil hat douchebag who doesn't even know that java and JavaScript have about as much in common as c and python. To use the names interchangeably just shows the world what a tryhard tool you are

    35. Re:I find it annoying by honkycat · · Score: 2, Funny

      They also took away the ability to disable search suggestions. That is just as annoying to me as Instant. I'm now using NoScript to make it bearable.

    36. Re:I find it annoying by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      I still think that one was Balki's fault...

    37. Re:I find it annoying by dinker · · Score: 0

      Even if you turn it off there`s now no way to turn off auto-suggest.

    38. Re:I find it annoying by IBBoard · · Score: 1

      That depends how fast you touch type. I had "instant" enabled after my wife got it (but she tends to stay logged in to her Google account and I don't) and so far I've tended to beat it. I either search from the address bar, or I've seemed to type and hit enter quicker than it manages to refresh. It'll grey out as it does it, but it doesn't seem to refresh the content until I submit the query myself.

    39. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > They also took away the ability to disable search suggestions.

      Try starting your queries with a negation e.g.

      -wikipedia red arrows

      This disables auto-suggestion and also appears to cause the automatic loading of results to wait until you have finished typing.

    40. Re:I find it annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sure thing. But how can I turn off autocomplete as well? 'cause you can't do that anymore.

  10. Neither. by Paranatural · · Score: 1

    I actually didn't notice any more ads, and usually this doesn't actually make my searches any faster.

  11. Who cares? They made JS faster by bluefoxlucid · · Score: 1

    They made boggy shitty web apps faster, so who cares?

  12. I actually find in moderately usefull by wjh31 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    in so far as I don't have to keep on hitting return.

    It means that typing a few letters at the start of a search instead of having to type out the full phrase is sufficient sometimes to pull up the necessary results. It also makes it quicker and easier to tweak a search for slightly different keywords, or to browse through the auto-suggest searches.

    1. Re:I actually find in moderately usefull by dcollins · · Score: 1

      I call astroturfing! (And from a non-native English writer, too.)

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    2. Re:I actually find in moderately usefull by owlstead · · Score: 1

      In my browser? Meh. From my Android phone - phew, fewer words! If only choosing something from the drop down does not automatically assumes you are done. Now *that* is annoying.

  13. No Surprise by dugn · · Score: 1

    Show me a company that isn't doing something to drive more revenue and I'll show you a company on its last legs.

    1. Re:No Surprise by jbeaupre · · Score: 1

      Show me a company that isn't doing something to drive more revenue and I'll show you a company on its last legs.

      The reverse isn't necessarily true: http://www.ampedriders.net/

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    2. Re:No Surprise by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is, I believe, a doll-making company in Japan that dates back 600 years and which still has only two shops. Sadly the details escape me.

      The demand for continual growth in revenue is a Western obsession.

  14. Not for everyone by rumith · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I personally find Instant Search an awesome feature. However, it seems to conflict with an experimental search feature I love (namely, the keyboard shortcuts), so until Google introduces a version that supports both Instant and keyboard shortcuts, the latter feature wins.

  15. neat but annoying by danno666 · · Score: 1

    its neat and annoying at the same time. as long as there's the option for turning it off its no problem. rather smart business decision.

  16. I turned Instant off almost immediately by istartedi · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I turned Instant off almost immediately. JavaScript speed was not the issue. Seeing a screenfull of "jumpiness" was just "loud" and obnoxious. I didn't like the aesthetics of it.

    You still get hints in the text drop-down, even without Instant. Those are useful.

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    1. Re:I turned Instant off almost immediately by Gazoogleheimer · · Score: 1

      Precisely!

      It's exceedingly distracting and a general nuisance.

    2. Re:I turned Instant off almost immediately by Oligonicella · · Score: 0, Redundant

      For all intensive purposes, "whom" is no longer a word.

      Only for those to whom 'intensive' means the same thing as 'intents and'.

  17. I use it, sometimes unintentionally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I dont know what their reasons for creating the instant search was. However, there are multiple times that while I was typing my intended search, the results I wanted appeared before instant search finished loading my completed query. Once the page loaded the last word I typed, my wanted result had disappeared. Who knows how many extra queries it would have taken me to find what I wanted. I was able to see about 3 searches take place while I typed. So I had 2 extra searches take place, one of which was not my intended search but it did find what I wanted. So I do find this new feature helpful.

  18. It's amusing. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

    I like google...but having spent ungodly amounts googling anything and everything: I know how to get the results I'm looking for. It's a cute trick but I think it'll be mostly lost on the slashdot crowd. The payoff will be for people who aren't good at understanding search methodology and work a computer consistently slowly...because you can actually see what makes your search get the desired results and what derails it.

    As for google's intent, this strikes me as some developer with a little extra time doing something for shits & giggles. People liked it. So bam! I'm interested to see how it might be implemented into things like youtube.

    I could also imagine some pretty cool functionality if implemented into the google code search.

  19. Bling Bling, Baby by nmb3000 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Given the complete uselessness of the feature (as described in TFA), I always figured instant search as just being some bogus bling that Google can use to show how they're staying ahead of alternatives like Bing. Even phrases like "gone instant" reek of marketing slime.

    The truth is that Bing, even with as few people around here that use it, really is working on keeping pace, or even surpassing Google in some areas. Microsoft's recent demos of their sliding and composited street-view, for example, were pretty impressive.

    Hopefully Google has some real new features in store and hasn't fallen to relying on completely useless visual gimmicks to keep customers. Recently their work on improving search has been to make their text fields and buttons too big and to waste CPU cycles with stupid instant search. Whee.

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    1. Re:Bling Bling, Baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sometimes Google has better results, sometimes Bing. But I use Bing because Google already knows far too much about me.

    2. Re:Bling Bling, Baby by ninjacheeseburger · · Score: 1

      I agree, Google seems to have changed its image search to look like Bing, unfortunately it looks alot more messy though.

    3. Re:Bling Bling, Baby by lowrydr310 · · Score: 1

      Hopefully Google has some real new features in store and hasn't fallen to relying on completely useless visual gimmicks to keep customers.

      So sliding and composited street view aren't gimmicks?

    4. Re:Bling Bling, Baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So you want to share with Bing too?

    5. Re:Bling Bling, Baby by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whee

      Does anybody else hear the stupid pig from the Allstate ads on Hulu?

  20. No, totally. by drolli · · Score: 1

    unlike before google instant lets me instantly not click on ads instead of having time to consciously not click on them.

  21. Has anyone polled how people reacted to this? by rs1n · · Score: 1

    I'm just curious how many of us who use Google on a regular basis has already turned this feature off. From having read the 20 or so posts here, it looks like a "vast" majority.

  22. Just another pointless gimmick by jenningsthecat · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I don't even see this 'feature', nor the annoying and distracting 'fade in' effect launched a few months ago. NoScript handily takes care of that junk for me. And I've switched off suggestions in Google prefs, which means I don't have to look at what other people have searched for as I'm typing in my own search criteria. Now if I could only find a way to permanently switch off Web History - I refuse to open an account with Google, (aka 'Big Brother'), just to be able to disable this, ewpecially given that I don't trust Google to fully disable it even if they say they have done so. In my experience, when a company starts down the road of intrusiveness, invasion of privacy, and excessive 'eye candy', they've usually come to the end of their tenure as true innovators. I suspect that Google will slowly become less and less relevant over the next 5 to 10 years, just as Microsoft has in the previous decade or so.

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    1. Re:Just another pointless gimmick by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      Now if I could only find a way to permanently switch off Web History...

      I am not subjected to that either, presumably because I do not accept cookies from Google.

      In my experience, when a company starts down the road of intrusiveness, invasion of privacy, and excessive 'eye candy', they've usually come to the end of their tenure as true innovators.

      They have to sell advertising in order to stay in business: they have no other source of revenue. There are evidently many people who like this sort of thing, so Google makes it available. You and I can block it, so what's the problem?

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    2. Re:Just another pointless gimmick by Draconeus · · Score: 1

      I really don't understand your logic here. How is tracking what you search an invasion of privacy? Even if I were to search for "donkey dicks," why would I care if Google, or anyone else, knew about it? It's not like we're typing in our social security numbers or bank account information. If anything, tracking the most common searches helps Google better serve their customers and end-users.

  23. Increases keyword bids, not click rates by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My take on Google's rationale is this; Now I'm a small-time Adwords advertiser in my day job, which gives me a little insight into how the ad empire runs.
    For the uninitiated, Google sells the ads on a per click basis, with the price per click decided with a keyword auction. So, if one was in the business of renting out monkeys, one might bid for "monkey rental", "monkey hire", "hire monkeys in Smalltown" etc etc.
    Popular keywords (eg "monkey hire") will cost more per click than less popular keywords (eg "short term monkey rental in Tinyplace"). Savvy advertisers might spread their bids to avoid overpaying for the highly competitive search terms and get some cheaper clicks in the 'long tail' of obscure searches.

    This is where 'instant search' comes in. Say a user was seeking to rent a monkey and begins typing in Google- "Monkey.." with the intention of typing "Monkey leasing in Anothertown". Google suggests (and loads the results page for) "Monkey hire". User thinks 'okay' and uses the results page for "Monkey hire" to select a result or ad to click on. Repeat this process across X users. The result is that the proportion of users who 'search' for popular keyword combinations increases, as many will settle for whatever Google has suggested. The total number of ad clicks will stay roughly the same, as there will be the same number of people searching. The bid price per ad click will increase, as unpopular keywords become even less popular and users are nudged towards the most common variations. Google profits.

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    1. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by blackfeathers · · Score: 1

      i was thinking along those same lines. because an ad shows up quicker, it may change to another ad as the user continues typing. it can be speculated on whether that first ad would even show up in the first place, how much of an advantage or disadvantage would this be to the advertiser, and the bigger picture of how this would impact adwords altogether.

    2. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by fridaynightsmoke · · Score: 1

      According to Google's information for Adwords users, ads only count an 'impression' (view) if its on the screen for 2 seconds or more, or the searcher clicks something else on the particular iteration of the page thats displaying the ad.

      More ad impressions help Google but only very slightly; more impressions for the same number of clicks = lower clickthrough rate, which means that Google can decrease an advertiser's "quality score", which will increase in a small way the amounts they have to bid to appear.

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    3. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by LBArrettAnderson · · Score: 1

      You present a good point, but I think there's one issue with it.

      Those suggestions seem to be sorted by frequency of searches, so what you're getting is *more* common and less obscure searches (and ads) early on as you type, and gradually gets more specific and (probability-wise) more obscure as you finish your search phrase.

    4. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Interesting hypothesis. I have some other observations... I work at a paid search ad agency (one of the bigger ones) and directly manage several million in annual PPC spend. The day this rolled out we saw a big spike in impressions and a big drop in CTR and several days later that trend reversed, and then a few days after that it we saw a slight uptick in impressions and a 40% drop in CTR (with no optimizations having been made at that time).

      Whether this is due to Google Instant or some other thing remains to be determined but SOMETHING had an impact on our data. We'll have to watch closely.

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    5. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by dcollins · · Score: 1

      Awesome observation. You're already moderated "5", so I'll just acclaim your insight. Sounds like you've got it.

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    6. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      Which was exactly what he said, so what's the issue with it?

      More common searches cost more to put ads on, so increasing the common searches is better for google, ad revenue wise.

    7. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The bid price per ad click will increase, as unpopular keywords become even less popular and users are nudged towards the most common variations. Google profits.

      Thank you for this explanation. It makes a lot more sense than the other ideas about how Google Instant equates to more advertising dollars for Google.

    8. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by sdguero · · Score: 1

      I just stopped working for a web analytics company a month ago, I supported their in house analytics software product for the people running the ad campaigns. Not my bag.

      Anyway, from what I saw the parent is dead on. Google is going to funnel more users into the higher CPC (cost per click) ads, and away from the relatively cheap long tail search terms. I've seen campaigns for large cell carriers run bidding into the $10 per click territory for terms like "blackberry" or "smartphone" and that is exactly what google is going to try place in front of as many search users as possible.

    9. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My take on Google's rationale is this; Now I'm a small-time Adwords advertiser in my day job, which gives me a little insight into how the ad empire runs.

      For the uninitiated, Google sells the ads on a per click basis, with the price per click decided with a keyword auction. So, if one was in the business of renting out monkeys, one might bid for "monkey rental", "monkey hire", "hire monkeys in Smalltown" etc etc.

      Popular keywords (eg "monkey hire") will cost more per click than less popular keywords (eg "short term monkey rental in Tinyplace"). Savvy advertisers might spread their bids to avoid overpaying for the highly competitive search terms and get some cheaper clicks in the 'long tail' of obscure searches.

      This is where 'instant search' comes in. Say a user was seeking to rent a monkey and begins typing in Google- "Monkey.." with the intention of typing "Monkey leasing in Anothertown". Google suggests (and loads the results page for) "Monkey hire". User thinks 'okay' and uses the results page for "Monkey hire" to select a result or ad to click on. Repeat this process across X users.
      The result is that the proportion of users who 'search' for popular keyword combinations increases, as many will settle for whatever Google has suggested. The total number of ad clicks will stay roughly the same, as there will be the same number of people searching. The bid price per ad click will increase, as unpopular keywords become even less popular and users are nudged towards the most common variations. Google profits.

      And Google suggests has not had this effect so far?

    10. Re:Increases keyword bids, not click rates by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, yeah... I read it too quickly. I thought he was saying that google was trying to make the uncommon keyword advertisers happy. Nothing to see here (in my comments), move along.

  24. Instant search doesn't happen when using iGoogle by HikingStick · · Score: 1

    If you have a customized Google homepage (an iGoogle page), you don't get the instant results. Most often, that's fine for me. As I've worked on others' PCs however, I've noticed the behavior and have found it useful. It doesn't always get it right with the first word, but once it does, I just stop typing and select my preferred link. Admittedly, it took me a number of uses to get myself to stop typing my search term, but once I felt comfortable that the results were comparable (or even identical) to the results I'd receive typing in a full string of terms, I adapted quickly.

    I think most people can catch on, and it can save time. Only time will tell, however.

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  25. Selling Ads is what Google Does by stewbacca · · Score: 3, Funny

    Wait...a company (Google) that makes a profit by selling stuff (advertisements) has introduced a technology that enables them to sell more ads? Unpossible!

    1. Re:Selling Ads is what Google Does by S77IM · · Score: 1

      "Did Google ________ Just To Show More Ads?"

      Yes. Until they have another revenue stream, ads are their bottom line, and everything they do directly or indirectly (sometimes very subtly) furthers this goal.

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    2. Re:Selling Ads is what Google Does by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 1

      Ads are what pay the bills, but search is what brings the eyeballs in. I find it interesting that people don't believe that Google might simply be trying to enhance the core search experience. After all, it's not exactly altruistic for them to do that, as better search functionality still will indirectly create more ad revenue for them.

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  26. Meh? by dagamer34 · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised people still type in www.google.com anymore. All of my google searches are through the address bar, in which case, Google Instant has little impact on me.

    1. Re:Meh? by thePowerOfGrayskull · · Score: 1

      Indeed. The idea of going to a web site to perform a search just seems like an extra step now. Even the search toolbar is kind of silly - at least since firefox(and I assume others) have gotten smart enough to figure out when you want to search vs when you want to go to a URL.

  27. It slows down my typing by Trevin · · Score: 1

    and typically the search results aren't relevant until I've finished my search phrase.

  28. Motivation by domulys · · Score: 1

    "... So money seemed to be the prime motivator ..."

    And here I thought they were just doing it out of the goodness of their hearts!

  29. Annoying by BCW2 · · Score: 1

    I use Google less and less. Mostly type where I need to go by url now. The "instant" crap is never close to what I want and just a way for Google to show who paid the biggest bribe.

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  30. It's like an annoying little brother... by jojoba_oil · · Score: 1

    I try to avoid using it. I haven't quite gone to shut it off, but I find it quite like a little brother: it interrupts, thinking that it knows what you're saying before you finish. Only in this case, it knows what you're typing. And just like the little brother, it's wrong a majority of the time. I'm sure that--like the little brother--I'll eventually say "shut up and let me finish", and turn the feature off; especially if it comes to the Chrome Omnibar.

  31. Hasn't hit Canada yet? by KazW · · Score: 1

    I don't think it's available in Canada yet, even after visiting www.google.com/instant/ and clicking "Try it now" all I get is the drop down box like with google suggest... Any Canadian Slashdoters given this a shot yet?

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    1. Re:Hasn't hit Canada yet? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have to use the google.com domain for your search. First you need to turn off country redirection though by visiting http://www.google.ca/ncr. Assuming Google thinks your connection is good enough, then you can try it out.

  32. Google instant required a media event? by hellfire · · Score: 1

    Apple is the king of media events, and is also the king of making a big deal out of something small. To me, Google voice in Gmail was far more significant world wide than Google instant, so where was the major media event for that? All these great tools and then you go make a big deal about Google instant? It never added up for me. It seemed like they were trying to take a page from the Steve Job's book of marketing, but to what end?

    And of course article has to hit me with the giant "duh" hammer. Google is trying to figure out a balance between annoying users and getting as many ads out there as possible. So you type in "New York" on the way to "New York metropolitian opera" and you get ads served up about new york. Then New York Metro, then New York Metropolitian. Each time, there's a small chance something might catch your eye. Targeted ads, quietly slipped in, hoping you'll notice as you search and maybe click on them. Millions of people world wide use Google. Most of them will not click on ads, but some will, and that's all Google needs is for some people to click the ads.

    The media event was more a practice event to notify investors and ad buyers, not the public at large. Get the word out to people who buy and sell and have money. And practice doing this like Steve-o does, in order to compete with his RDF. Steve has been pushing iAds lately and explaining how iAd can reach millions of iOS devices. Gotta start getting the word out on Googleriffic features that make money.

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  33. Nixed instant pretty quickly by Kazymyr · · Score: 1

    I find Instant not only cumbersome, but at least in the workplace downright disruptive. It will automatically display hits even if not remotely related to what you're searching for, because you goddamned haven't finished typing yet.

    Just try "is it wrong" in a Google search box and see what it loads.

    Now imagine you were at work and your boss was looking at your screen. You'd have some explaining to do on why you're searching for ways to commit incest.

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    1. Re:Nixed instant pretty quickly by rat7307 · · Score: 1

      I don't see this result

      Perhaps Google is tailoring it to YOUR needs based on your web search history? :-)

      (I am joking of course..... or am I?)

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  34. May lead to a cascade by Animats · · Score: 1

    There's already an effect by which Google Trends and Google Suggest to drive traffic to a popular search phrase. This may make it worse.

    Google Suggest "suggestions" are based, not on Google search results, but on Google Trends, the most popular searches in the last hour or so. Thus, if a phrase with likely first few letters gets near the top of Google Trends momentarily, it appears in the search boxes of large numbers of users, many of whom just pick top phrase. That's how long, unlikely phrases make it to the top of Google Trends.

    I had a program tracking Google Trends for a while. The Trends system is clearly being spammed, as a form of "search engine optimization". Occasionally, an unlikely phrase which clearly aims the user at a specific site will surface. The life cycle of such a spam is about 45 minutes.

    Adding command completion to Google's search box should accelerate this effect.

  35. Summary phrased differently by Philodoxx · · Score: 1

    "Did company add feature to product to make more money?" Google is a corporation with a duty to its shareholders to try and increase profits. If they release a function to their search engine that both increases its utility to users and lets Google generate more revenue: what's the problem and why is it newsworthy?

    For the record I really like the instant search. Generally I don't get my search terms right the first time. The quick feedback to search terms is really nice.

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    1. Re:Summary phrased differently by radtea · · Score: 1

      Google is a corporation with a duty to its shareholders to try and increase profits.

      Gibberish that doesn't withstand even the most superficial scrutiny.

      The arms trade has vastly higher profit margins than internet search. If Google had the duty you for some reason claim, they would become an arms dealer.

      For some reason everyone magically pretends corporations are restricted to their current mode of business when they trot out this fairy tale about profit maximization, but no one ever gives any reason for it.

      And then again, how exactly does annoying the hell out of the owners of the eyeballs they are selling maximize profit again?

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    2. Re:Summary phrased differently by geminidomino · · Score: 1

      For some reason everyone magically pretends corporations are restricted to their current mode of business when they trot out this fairy tale about profit maximization, but no one ever gives any reason for it.

      Apparently the claim is that some $BIGCORP decided to Do The Right Thing(TM) at once point and, since it negatively impacted the bottom line, was successfully sued by the shareholders.

      I've never seen the specifics though, so my thoughts lean towards "Urban Legend."

    3. Re:Summary phrased differently by hovelander · · Score: 1

      I was looking for a comment where someone said it may be beneficial to both. If you didn't state it, I was going to. If they get a few more fractions of a second of my eyeball time to satisfy my info cravings, then that is literally a small price to pay on my end. If you are as distractable as I am when I'm searching, then most likely the extra ad time is just background noise as you concentrate on what you are looking for initially. (If that even make sense?)

      It's just Google optimizing us along with algorithms.

      Someone mod this gentleman up...

  36. Noscript is my friend by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I simply love noscript.

    I did not even notice this new feature thanks to it (yes google is not allowed to run scripts on my browser by default).

  37. Click on Ads? by oldmac31310 · · Score: 1

    Does anyone actually click on ads?

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  38. What? by deathtopaulw · · Score: 1

    This is an entire slashdot discussion filled with people who apparently have no idea that Firefox has a "Google Search Bar!" embedded in the upper right hand corner. Or that chrome's address bar is in fact a "Google Search Bar!" also. If you're using your browser correctly, you shouldn't even run in to instant. Therefore, it's completely useless. Come on guys, back me up here, you're starting to scare me.

    1. Re:What? by spxero · · Score: 1

      My primary searches come from the right-hand corner search bar. But when I tweak those searches, I'd rather go to the box in the middle of the screen than the top right. As a side note, I have disabled that damn annoying instant search. Maybe it would work if it was on a timer that changed every 10 seconds or so rather than every character I type. All it does is add noise to the search.

  39. I like it. by tthomas48 · · Score: 1

    I find it's pretty useful on multi word searches. I get instant feedback on whether it's looking like my search will return the sort of results I'm looking for. I find it's mostly helpful with tech support type searches where one word doesn't return good results, but a synonym does.

  40. At best it's annoying by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

    I find the argument that "instant search" may help people rather specious. We've seen numerous evidence that people don't multitask well - if you try to view search results as you type, it just interferes with your ability to type quickly (and this was my experience with "instant" as well). So most of the time I just tuned it out; when I noticed it at all, it mostly was just a "oh look, it's returning results for an incomplete set of terms" sort of thing that was not useful at all.

    It also bugged me that using "instant" reset my search list to 10 items instead of my preferred 100. It's true that, when searching for some specific page, the one I want is usually right at the top of the list. But just this weekend I was searching for info related to one aspect of x264 encoding, and I knew I wanted to see a lot of results so I could scan through and compare multiple takes on it. For me, anyway, this sort of thing works better with the longer, single-page list of results from Google.

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  41. I like 100 results/page. Instant RESETS to 10. by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    My idea of efficiency is getting 100 results per page. I often need to look at more than the first ten results to find what I'm looking for, and if I'm really researching something I make go through several pages of 100 results each.

    I wanted to give it Google Instant a fair try, but gave up when I found that there seems to be no way to keep my preference for 100 results per page while using Google Instant. Merely turning on Google Instant cuts the number of results down to ten. Worse yet, if you then turn it on, your results per page remains at ten for regular searches.

    Needing to click five, ten, fifteen times is a dealbreaker for me.

    I view this with alarm. Google, which used to be so clean, chaste, and functional, is going all glitzy. I can't stand their new image search, in which it is difficult to scroll through results because mousing over any thumbnail, even accidentally, cause it to zoom out... into some poorly-defined Java-jived windoid in which right-clicking "Copy image" does not work reliably.

  42. I like it by beej · · Score: 1

    Another vote here for the minority. I like being able to quickly narrow my search on the spot--to this end I found I began ordering my search terms before I typed them in, e.g.:

    susanville food breakfast best bacon

    I use Chrome's URL field to do Google searches all the time, and find I miss instant when I'm typing up there.

  43. Useful and not, but not obtrusive by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 1

    I sometimes find Google Instant useful, same as with history-based completion in the URL bar of Firefox. But when it's not useful it's easy to ignore and doesn't seem to bog things down any (at least I'm not noticing it). As for the ads, when I'm looking to buy what I'm searching for they're often relevant to my search (and thus useful), and when I'm not they're easy to ignore. A lot of other search/advertising engines seem to get the first bit but ignore the second part about getting out of the way. No, scratch that, they get the second part but consider doing it to be an explicit thing to be avoided. Which I think is why Google's so popular and so profitable.

  44. It doesn't make it faster by Posting=!Working · · Score: 1

    If they make the first or second time you hit Tab take you to the first result, it might have made things faster, as you could start the page loading without having to transition your hand to your mouse (and back to the keyboard, if the next site has a logon.) As it is now, you have to hit Tab 16 times to highlight the first result, the now-unnecessary search button being one of them. The tab order includes the links to all of their other products before getting to the search results, as it is on their regular search, but at least the old one had the "I'm feeling Lucky" button for obvious searches (e.g. "Wiki" Tab Tab Enter takes you to Wikipedia.)

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  45. The same as the awesomebar by vivaoporto · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My reaction to it was the same as with the AwesomeBar:

    First I loathed it. It makes the input box to jump while the text is being typed. It also makes it very hard to focus on typing while a multitude of information is flashing on the screen at the same time. That effect increases if you are a fast touch typist.

    But I was too lazy to disable it, so I didn't. I then started (without even noticing) to adapt the way I use it and it proved itself to be much easier: I start typing whatever I'm searching and pause for just a second to inspect the suggestions google makes. More often than not, I can simply stop typing because the search result is already what I'm looking for.

    In the few cases it is not, I finish typing and use it "the old way", pressing enter to retrieve the search results.

    1. Re:The same as the awesomebar by NeverNow · · Score: 1

      Hmm... I like my AwesomeBar to only suggest entries from history and bookmarks, without dynamic search results.

    2. Re:The same as the awesomebar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But how much faster is it if you need to pause to look at the search results? Just typing out the whole query requires no pausing because there's very little visual feedback to process.
      I personally don't see a significant benefit to this.

    3. Re:The same as the awesomebar by pitchpipe · · Score: 1

      My reaction to it was the same as with the AwesomeBar:
      First I loathed it[...]
      But I was too lazy to disable it[...]
      I then started (without even noticing) to adapt

      Don't worry, it'll be the same when they come out with the new and improved Search/BloodMonit/AnalProbe/NeuralInt Nanny-Brother.

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    4. Re:The same as the awesomebar by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This may add some convenience and utility for those who find typing to be a painfully slow process (e.g., the elderly with their first computer).

      On the other hand, it may make the rest of us - for whom typing is a cinch and may be faster than writing or even speaking - more dependent on Google's (or whomever's) suggestions. While I fully intend to take the advice of my car mechanic - an altogether questionable practice nowadays - I am hesitant to go further and allow someone to complete (read: form) my every thought for me.

      The truth is, everyone has an agenda, whether they admit it or not, whether they think so or not. This includes Google, per above comments (and common sense), and Firefox. If I allow someone else to think for me in any way, then their bias will no doubt infect my thought process inasmuch as they make suggestions to me - whether or not I follow their advice.

      (Note that this applies to this comment, too. Did you accept this blindly, letting ME think for YOU, or did you weigh it intellectually before assimilating it - or discarding it?)

  46. Tasteless and pushy by dpbsmith · · Score: 1

    I don't mind that Instant Search might be motivated by Google's self-interest. I don't mind that it may place technological burdens on the browser--you can always turn it off. I don't mind that not everyone will necessarily like it.

    What I mind is that it is basically tasteless. It's mostly bling, and Google used to be so tasteful.

    And what I mind even more is the "negative option" feature of it. For years, Google has been introducing new features on an opt-in basis, e.g. by showing them first in Google Labs. Gmail was originally invitation only!--and people have been opting in willlingly because the new features were obviously valuable. This is the first time they pushed something on me without my prior consent. That's bad.

    And come to think of it, they introduced it with an extremely intrusive animated thingy--the Google "balls"--which were presented without any explanation. That's also a new departure, and a bad precedent.

  47. Honestly... by NeverNow · · Score: 1

    ...it strikes me as yet another reason to disable Javascript on Google.

  48. I actually like it - I can search faster, I think by elysiana · · Score: 1

    I sometimes feel like I am one of the only people who like this feature. I don't know if it has something to do with how quickly I process information or what, but I'm actually enjoying it. Granted, I don't need to use it every time because I generally know exactly what I'm looking for and what terms to use, but I think it's great when I'm researching something and I'm not sure what I need to look for. It's not like I have to look at what I'm typing, so instead I'm able to look at the web pages as they come up and glean information from the summaries. If I see one that looks promising, even if I've kept typing and it moves or goes away, I've already scanned the info I need and can add that in as I type to narrow it down further.

    In fact I'm beginning to find it more annoying to search with the feature *off* because it means I have to hit enter to search for something, look at the results, say "Nope, not what I needed," and type in something else and hit enter again.

    Of course, I've always been extremely fast at skimming and pulling out key words and phrases, and I've been told I read faster than most. I'm sure that makes a big difference; many of my friends who are not fast readers say they dislike it because they have to actually stop and read the results after each word they enter, whereas I don't have that problem.

  49. NO WAY?!!one!!1! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A corporation in America did something... for... .... MONEY!??! I don't believe this!

  50. useless and I never see it by jd142 · · Score: 1

    Since ctrl+k gets me right to the search box in FF, I never go to the google home page. And even if I log out of my google account it still routes me to igoogle anyway. When they did that funky logo follows the mouse thing a while back, I actually had to go to google.co.uk to see it. That was easier then blasting the cookies anyway.

    I did actually try this out though. I'm a fast enough typist that it doesn't matter. And I am *not* that fast. I can see if you are someone who types with an index finger one character every few seconds then maybe it will show you results before you are done typing.

  51. I'm about to turn it off by wiredlogic · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I've gotten used to the laggy feeling and jumpiness but what I can't stand is that after being trained to not have to enter a query it sometimes wipes out the final results and tells me I have to hit enter. WTF?

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    1. Re:I'm about to turn it off by bluej100 · · Score: 1

      That's when your query is filtered by Safe Search. For most people, I'd call it a feature, not a bug--you don't want "bra" results popping up when you're looking for information on "bran".

    2. Re:I'm about to turn it off by ryan420 · · Score: 1

      you don't want "bra" results popping up when you're looking for information on "bran".

      Speak for yourself!

  52. Boxen -- Vaxen by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    If you're a "True Nerd" (TM)** then you'd know that the colloquialism "boxen" was derived from another colloquialism "VAXen" which came from the olden days (1970's - 1980's, even into the 90's) of computer science when Digital Equipment Corporation still existed and made a line of minicomputer called the "VAX". If you had more than one VAX system, the plural became known as "VAXen", derived from Old English use of the suffix "-en" tacked onto a noun to denote plural. This name came to be due to the fact that virtually all VAX sysadmins back in those days were mostly a bunch of goofy wierdos who still lived in their mothers' basements well into their 40's, never got laid, and seemed to live perpetually in a fantasy world composed solely of Renaissance Fairs.

    1. Re:Boxen -- Vaxen by dotancohen · · Score: 1

      If you're a "True Nerd" (TM)** then you'd know that the colloquialism "boxen" was derived from another colloquialism "VAXen"

      For me the term came from here:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oregon_Trail_(game)

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  53. I use NoScript by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    NoScript prevents the automatic listing of stuff, making Google act like it's supposed to.

    There was only one time in the world when I accidentally had Google temporarily whitelisted... I happened to be doing a search for the UNIX 'tee' command. You can imagine what showed up, and you can imagine why I hated it.

  54. I don't like it from a usability standpoint by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't like it, not because of the results while I type, but because it will act like I pressed "I feel lucky" when I use the auto-complete options. Also if i see a phrase I want to search for instead in one of the results of my queries, I am forced to either copy-paste it out or to memorize how it is spelled instead of typing what I am reading on the screen.

  55. Web authors must really care about bling by Chemisor · · Score: 1

    Web developers REALLY love their javascript, even when serving only static data. So is it surprizing that they would like to "spice up" the "boring" google search results page? Even the page with the article on it has nothing interesting except article text, and yet it insists on popping up a dialog box reminding me that my browser (elinks) is "too old", as if whatever they are doing with their useless scripts and graphics can possibly be of interest to me.

  56. Who uses google.com when you have FF searchbar? by rsborg · · Score: 1

    Or Chrome/Safari/etc.

    I never use the actual www page, unless I'm refining my results in which case, instant isn't that annoying.

    I also now have migrated to domain-specific searches outside of Google (ie, code searches on code-specific sites like stackoverflow, etc)

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  57. I mostly ignore it, but... by Linux_ho · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I found it useful last week. I was doing a search on the model number of the water heater in my house, looking for a replacement part. There were no search results for the full model number, but when I hit the backspace button a couple times in the Google Instant search, I was able to find some search results for a model that was pretty close to the same one in my house. As it turned out, they were close enough and I was able to find the replacement parts I needed.

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  58. RE: Did Google Go Instant Just To Show More Ads? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Of course not silly. They did it to inflate their Ads _AND_ their Comscore rankings.

    So much for meaningful metrics.

  59. Gone in less than 60 seconds... by m509272 · · Score: 1

    I turned it off as soon as I possibly could. I use Google A LOT. I don't need it messing with what I think is the query I feel will get me the best results. I ESPECIALLY would not want it doing this on my mobile phone chewing up my data allowance.

  60. Sorry Google... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But I hate your stupid instant feature and I'm too lazy to disable it, so I'll probably just start using your competitors because i find yours annoying.

  61. WHAT IS THIS ARTICLE TALKING ABOUT?!?! by hellop2 · · Score: 1

    This always happens. Everyone in the world except me is suffering from a mass google induced hallucination.

    I see no instant searches on google.com. Lets click "more" -> "even more". Nothing about instant. Settings, preferences, google account settings, search features... nope nope nope.

    WTH are you hippies talking about?

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    1. Re:WHAT IS THIS ARTICLE TALKING ABOUT?!?! by Psychotria · · Score: 1

      I have no idea... I don't see it either. But I'm in Australia, so maybe it's not implemented by Google Australia (www.google.com.au) yet (???)

  62. So.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    what?

    google tool bar has done this for Aaaaaaagggeeessss! (with out the ads) what's the fuss about?

  63. Quality and speed matter. Compete PLEASE! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Slashdot has become the platform for more and more commercial interests.
    This whole post seems to be part of a F.U.D (fear, uncertainty, doubt) strategy taken by Google opponents (such as Microsoft).
    Instead of trying to compete on a technical level, they try to say the competition is 'stupid'. Its like I would say baseball is 'stupid' if I can't hit the ball.
    As in most F.U.D campaigns, the originators and their motives are disguised and blurred.
    If anyone can match Google on search and search speed - go ahead - and I will probably use your service, if the price is not too high.

  64. do u type slow? by ankitasdeveloper · · Score: 1

    Google Instant is for those who type slow. I have disabled it.

  65. Browsers blink though by pseudorand · · Score: 1

    > Google's traffic monitors didn't even blink at the extra data being sent across

    My browser, on the other hand, blinks like crazy. Thank goodness for NoScript and the in-browser search option.

  66. instant by Dainutehvs · · Score: 0

    Wake me up when instant search will give me rearch results of all in that very same moment emerged information.

  67. Am I the only one who didn't notice? by swillden · · Score: 3, Interesting

    All the posts complaining about this surprised me, mainly because I'm surprised that anyone uses the google search page. Don't pretty much all browsers have a search field? I type my search in there, hit enter, and see the results.

    For me, "http://google.com" is a connectivity diagnostic tool, not a search tool.

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    1. Re:Am I the only one who didn't notice? by yrrah · · Score: 1

      What happens if you want to do more than one search? Do you go past google's search bar to use your browser's search field?

    2. Re:Am I the only one who didn't notice? by bingoUV · · Score: 1

      You don't need to go past the google's search bar. Both Google's search bar and browser search field are visible at the time. Because of greater frequency of use and constancy of position, clicking on the browser search bar is easier. Google search field is available only on Google's page and keeps moving along the page so one has to hunt it down before clicking on it.

      One might also remember the browser's keybinding to take the cursor to browser search bar. Google also might have such a keybinding (I am not sure) but it would require javascript and work only when one is on Google. So this keybinding can be used less often than the browser-bar keybinding and hence remembered less.

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  68. Dumbest Thing Ever by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This new mis-feature actually slows me down. I type one character and the page changes. Google appears to be designing using the "Principle of Greatest Surprise". How this got past any user testing is beyond me.

    Google is about to be banned from using Javascript on my machine. (Thanks to Firefox and Configurable Security Policies...)

    They seem bent on making the best search engine into the worst. I don't need sidebars, I don't need pictures on the front page, I don't need "instant" searches (which, as I said, are _slower_ for me than before). Forget "don't be evil"; try "don't get in the way".

  69. I switched to Bing by ericlj · · Score: 1

    I wanted to see my old searches instead of Google's auto-suggest. I turned off instant search but couldn't turn off the auto-suggest (or whatever they call it), so I switched to Bing.

    It's been several days and I haven't been hit by lightning yet.

  70. Notepad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've actually been typing my searches into notepad and then copying them in for some time now (not a joke, honest truth). I don't like anything that sees my typing real time- the metrics on that are far more frightening and revealing than anything I might type into google. This is biometric identification, whether you want to admit it or not, and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

  71. Affects on CTR and quality score by daveholio · · Score: 1

    I do a lot of SEO/SEM and have some concerns. As a user, I LOATHE google instant. It took 5 tries to get my 100 results/page back, and every time I clear my cookies I have to start over. Questions about PPC impact:

    1. If I bid on the phrase 'antique doorknobs' and someone starts typing in 'antique hair styles', maybe my ad shows up for a second before they're done typing. If my ad's 2 second display counts as an impression, my clickthrough rate could suffer and therefore my quality score and my bids would be forced up. Not to mention it's just more junk data messing up the real numbers.

    2. Can advertisers opt out of this program? I only want my ads to display AFTER the user has typed in what they want.

    3. Google does a number of things that have the effect of driving people to use more popular versions of keywords - fighting the long tail. Google suggest will 'helpfully' auto-complete your search queries with the most popular version. Sometimes this will help the user. Most of the time, users will be driven to use the most popular, most competitive, and costliest keywords possible. This drives up ad revenue and incites more competition for the most expensive keywords - a definite money maker for Google.

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  72. making money isnt bad. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes. This is a great feature.

    I find it very useful as a multipurpose information bar now. I love the fact that I can get pictures just by adding the words "picture" or "photo" to the end of the text on my searchbar without having to click search.

    It really is truly an excellent feature and works real fast for me... but also is easy to shut off for those who do not like change in their lives.

    But the poster seems to miss the value to google. I really don't care if google makes more or less money off of this feature. It isn't going to effect whether I use it or not. Fact is: it IS WAY BETTER.

    Besides... I think this is more about making money by providing the best service. ie: better service = more users = more money = obviously.

  73. Wow, I actually learned something on Slashdot! by Infonaut · · Score: 1

    Nice. Wish I had mod points. Now where did I put all of my oxen?

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  74. it can be useful... by bolthole · · Score: 1

    if you dont know what you need to search for exactly.
    If you have a conceptual target, but you arent sure what are the best keywords to use, its Really, Really good. I found a few things I was looking for, that I probably wouldnt have been able to find otherwise.

    If on the other hand, you already know what you are looking for, and know reasonable keywords to get it, then its a waste of time.

  75. Useful = off by markdavis · · Score: 1

    "Do you find Google Instant to be useful in any way, or does it strike you as just more ad gravity for your mouse?"

    I find it extraordinarily annoying, unnecessary, a waste of CPU and bandwidth, and turned it off almost immediately. If that answers the question :)

    I like Google as my search engine of choice when it is fast, simple, and accurate. I do not want animation. I do not want backgrounds. I do not want "fading in and out". I do not want video game logos. I do not want it to "hook into" additional "services". I do not want auto completion. Just call me conservative.

    1. Re:Useful = off by cheros · · Score: 1

      Applaus. Give me what I'm looking for, and make it clearer that the top links are not links at all, but paid ads that look like links. Secondly, get rid of sites that replicate the search string to pretend they offer the service. I *hate* that as much as I hate that someone gets my search string handed over - what else do they get? If Google broadcasting my query and IP address to all such advertisiers?

      We are approaching the point where the risk of using Google is exceeding the benefit of using Google..

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  76. that must be why.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that must be why because I don't see any other uses (I disabled it)

  77. it should be opt-in, just like the search box... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it should be opt-in, just like the search box suggestions in Firefox.

  78. it is not "green" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it is not "green"

  79. Wait, Google has a front page? by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Google has a front page?

    Sincerely,
    A keyword search user

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  80. Yes. by RichiH · · Score: 1

    Yes. Next question.

    Also, you can pay per click or per view with Google Ads. If you pay for views and the ad is displayed for three seconds or more, you pay.

  81. You can turn it off, but you can't turn it OFF by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google users who care enough to post on the Google Help Forums are up in arms about the new Google Instant setup.

    Not because they like or hate Google Instant, but because when Google activated Google Instant, they removed the ability to turn off AutoComplete in the search box. Because of this, the knowledgeable Google users are forced to use the lowest-common-denominator version of the Google search box.

    Some of the recommendations to get around Google's forcefeeding of unnecessary AutoComplete? (a) add &complete=0 to the Google URL, (b) use Elmer Fudd, (c) a few other annoying workarounds that shouldn't be required when the system worked fine before, (d) use a different search engine

    All we want is for Google to add the "turn off Autocomplete" back to the Google Search Settings screen. Why is this so difficult a request to handle?

  82. Firefox by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I still love firefox's ability to go "google " in the address bar and don't see me moving away from that any time soon! :)

  83. It's not about the traditional ads by thechemic · · Score: 1

    It's not about the traditional ads. If you type "a" during a live search the first result (at the time of this writing) is "amazon.com". However, if you type "a" and then hit the search button (not a live search) you get "A - Wikipedia". If you live search "b" you get "best buy". If you manually search "b" you get "4chan - Wikipedia". So it appears that they have sold portions of the alphabet to companies. I wonder how much one pays to own "a" in live search? How many people will begin to type something starting with "a" and then get distracted and go "oooh, shiny objects on amazon" [click].

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  84. the ads sometimes is annoying by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Google search engine is useful but the ads sometimes is kinda annoying.
    but tats the way google make money.