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Review: Cowboys & Aliens

The name pretty much sums it up: There are cowboys. There are aliens. And Iron Man Director Jon Favreau has blown a pretty penny trying to make the whole thing work, getting the sexiest woman alive from Maxim a few years back, as well as a James Bond and a Han Solo to convince you to come to the theater and watch 6-shooters take on the little green men. Spoilers may exist below, but I promise to keep the review mostly lacking substance: just like the movie.

So let me be clear up front: I didn't hate it. The only movie this summer that I walked out of the theater thinking FAIL in capital letters was Green Lantern. So far everything else has had some sort of redeeming value. And this does too: solid production values, occasionally funny dialog, cool looking aliens, and a really awesome bad guy base/rocket ship is good fun.

The plot: Daniel Craig is a cowboy who wakes up with amnesia and a strange metal wrist band. He runs afoul of a punk kid with a rich daddy (Ford) in a town where blinking lights in the sky show up and lasso people away at night. So Craig and Ford and a ragtag assortment of town folk go looking for their kin, learning about the aliens, and growing beyond their cheesy racism with the local indians, and shooting pistols at alien space ships.

The sci-fi western is tough sod to trod. The winners (Firefly, Cowboy Bebop) have typically placed Cowboys into Outter Space, and not Aliens into the Old West. For me, this is because the whole old west/cowboy thing is kinda campy. Hollywood dried up that well over the years, leaving behind a legacy of great and terrible movies. But the Western has a visual vocabulary we all know. The Bar Hall Brawl. The standoff in main street between two gun-slingers. The Boozing and the Prostitutes. And of course the dialog conventions... that 1800s slang which is very fun to play with for a moment, and pretty annoying after awhile. Unless you are Malcolm Reynolds.

I think they did an ok job with their world. They never really break out of The Old West. With the exception of the super weapon that Craig has attached to his wrist, the good guys weapons are pistols, rifles, dynamite sticks which makes it all the more awesome fighting highly maneuverable alien fighter jets, as well as the more melee battles on the ground.

The aliens and their technology are a mixed bag. Their design is sort of like a turtle with a quatto to inside. We see 2 ships: one which is kinda a fighter that looks like a firefly, and one giant rocket base that is mostly underground and used to mine gold (which is explained, but really is done just for cool golden visuals scattered all around the film, and to justify alien presence and overall badness).

Should you see it? I enjoyed Captain America, Harry Potter, and Thor more. But this was better than Transformers 3 and Green Lantern. It's visually stylized. Sometimes charming. My wife thought Daniel Craig was just ok, where I found him to be pretty cool. I thought Harrison Ford to once again proves that he is just to old for this sort of work: Same problem with Indiana Jones the action just isn't believable any more- he looks and moves like an old man, and they edit it this stuff to make him look like he is doing more than he is instead of embracing the fact that he's an old guy shuffling around. He just doesn't pull it off. But he looks good in a hat.

But when I look at the producer credits, I can't help but feel like this just should have been better. There are 8 writers, including several of the Bad Robot regulars. The producers include the Ron Howard/Brian Grazer team, Steven Spielburg and those Lost guys again. I can't help but feel like when the dust settled, this was a film by committee. From the design to the script to the casting and somewhere through 8 writers and all these producers a bit of sparkle got sanded off.

But hey, next summer Pirates & Aliens? Ninjas & Aliens? I spent all night trying to decide what genre should encounter aliens next, and i have the answer: Alien & Aliens. Now THAT would be a movie.

225 comments

  1. Steven Spielburg? by dtmos · · Score: 1

    Who the heck is that?

    1. Re:Steven Spielburg? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Pretty sure that's the guy who directed Shaving Ryan's Privates.

    2. Re:Steven Spielburg? by war4peace · · Score: 4, Insightful

      He changed name after doing that horrendous piece of shit called "War of the Worlds". To wash the shame away.
      Turns out that wasn't enough!

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    3. Re:Steven Spielburg? by uberjack · · Score: 2

      Steven Spielberg's non-union Mexican equivalent.

    4. Re:Steven Spielburg? by Heed00 · · Score: 5, Funny

      C'mon, you know that's Señor Spielbergo.

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    5. Re:Steven Spielburg? by nitehawk214 · · Score: 2

      Steven Spielburgh. He makes all the movies filmed in Pittsburgh.

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    6. Re:Steven Spielburg? by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one who really liked that movie?

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    7. Re:Steven Spielburg? by jorgevillalobos · · Score: 1

      Nope. I enjoyed it as well.

    8. Re:Steven Spielburg? by Antidamage · · Score: 0

      Shit reviewer can't spell eminent director's name. Shit reviewer refers to low-budget, panned sci-fi and a foreign cartoon that only has cowboys in the name when talking about an unrelated movie. Shit reviewer doesn't actually summarize his review. Did he like it? Is saying it's not like Firefly good, or bad? Just kidding, we know you think Firefly is the epitome of cinema. We just know you're also wrong.

      Shit reviewer should stop reviewing.

    9. Re:Steven Spielburg? by gubers33 · · Score: 1

      You actually sat through that?

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    10. Re:Steven Spielburg? by Lord+Byron+II · · Score: 1

      He's the guy who edited the post to include the word "to" used incorrectly three times. Not to be a grammar-nazi, but after the third grade, you should know the difference between "to" and "too".

    11. Re:Steven Spielburg? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      Weird, I didn't know people hated it that much. It certainly wasn't a great movie by any means, but I didn't think it was that bad. My biggest gripe was that Tom Cruise was the star; he's a very good actor, but all his Scientology publicity and silliness has made him a distraction in movies. Other than that it seemed like a pretty decent remake of the old HG Wells classic. If there was anything that was unbelievable, chalk that up to problems in Wells' original story, such as the whole idea of aliens from Mars attacking when we know with pretty good certainty now that there's no life left there. They had no idea back around 1900 that there wasn't life on other planets in our solar system, and a lot of people thought there was.

      It was certainly far better than the Star Wars prequels.

    12. Re:Steven Spielburg? by rongage · · Score: 1

      Heck, any movie that has Tom Cruise getting shot at repeatedly can't be that bad! It sucked in that those damned aliens kept missing. I was rooting for them to hit him and they kept disappointing...

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    13. Re:Steven Spielburg? by kiddygrinder · · Score: 1

      i found it hilarious.

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    14. Re:Steven Spielburg? by cusco · · Score: 1

      I had long ago promised myself to never go to movie where I had first read (and liked) the book, but my wife dragged me to that piece of schlock because she has the hots for Tom Cruise. I really, really should have gotten thoroughly stoned first, perhaps it would have been less painful then. Cruise has one single role in his acting repertoire, and while he plays it rather well I have never liked spoiled rich frat boys in real life and don't like them any better on the screen.

      How long has it been since you read 'War of the Worlds'? I haven't read it in over three decades and even then I could recognize that the script writers had chucked everything about the original book except the title and humanity's rescue by microbes, substituting the typical Hollyweird format script in its place.

      Yeah, I really, really hated it.

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    15. Re:Steven Spielburg? by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      I'll admit it's been a long time since I read it, but I don't recall it being that different. Obviously, it was moved from Victorian England to early-2000s Boston, which is a pretty big setting change. And of course they had the thing about the machines being already buried, and aliens somehow teleporting themselves in there, instead of the machines simply landing with the aliens in them. But the general theme of aliens invading, running around in giant legged machines, blasting everything they could see and happily wreaking havoc, was about the same. And of course their final weakness that killed them, being microbes.

      Again, I don't see how it was anywhere near as bad as the Star Wars prequels. At least the dialog wasn't utterly painful to listen to, and the characters were fairly believable, if a little one-dimensional.

      If I was sentenced to be tortured by watching a bad movie with lidlocks on my eyes, and I had my pick of watching this movie, Battlefield Earth, one of the SW prequels, or even Matrix 3, I'd easily pick this one.

    16. Re:Steven Spielburg? by war4peace · · Score: 1

      Okay; I should have explained it in more words, although it's a bit off-topic.

      The movie ITSELF was good. Nice special effects and some scenes were definitely brilliant (burning train being one of my favorites). But the changes from the original idea (the novel) were atrocious in their core.
      I mean, take the whole "buried machines" idea. Some aliens came a million years ago and said "what? No worthy enemy? Just some ape-like primitives around? Fuck it, let's just bury these machines and come back after 10 thousand centuries." I mean, COME ON!
      Then, first time they came, they couldn't be arsed to check for microbes, I mean, microbiology is an unknown for them; all they know is teleportation and ray-spitting machines. They aren't poly-specific, no sir!

      This whole debacle makes the movie unbearable as a whole. It's dumber than a bag of bricks.
      Yes, in the original novel, aliens come all of a sudden (from Mars, but at the time is was still plausible) and arguably don't have time to check for viral threats (which were STILL a novelty for the late-19th-early 20th century for the general population) - and that makes the novel interesting even now: you CAN imagine the facts happening back then and it makes some sense. But mixing present time beings with conceptions from 100 years ago... that's the fail.
      Also some scenes are appallingly hard to digest (from a lucid viewer's perspective): birds have no problem whatsoever trying to land on a 20-story-high piece of erratically moving machinery that makes horrible loud noises? But at the same time should be driven away by simple, rag-dressed scarecrows? Niiice...

      Call me weird, but when PLOT POINTS are badly put on stage, that makes me mad. I had no problem with Independence Day or (lo and behold!) even Armageddon, because most plot points were credibly or cleverly masked away. But WotW... many plot scenes simply sucked.

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  2. There are 8 writers by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The true sign of any picture I would avoid.

    1. Re: There are 8 writers by Nimey · · Score: 1

      I dunno. One of the best episodes of Star Trek:TNG had at least four, and they may have stopped there because at the time they couldn't credit any more.

      The episode? Yesterday's Enterprise.

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    2. Re: There are 8 writers by justthinkit · · Score: 1

      POTC had around 17 writers. And yes I liked the movie, although the sequels remind me of the Matrix sequels.

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  3. Reviews... by jhoegl · · Score: 1

    One mans opinion is of no consequence to me.
    I still plan to see it on netflix.

    1. Re:Reviews... by nedlohs · · Score: 2

      Why would you look at a movie review article then? Let alone comment on one?

    2. Re:Reviews... by jhoegl · · Score: 1

      You assume I read it, and you assume one can not share their opinion in response to anothers opinion.
      You fail to understand opinions.

    3. Re:Reviews... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Given your apparent view on "one man's opinion" why would you share your opinion as if yours was somehow more worthy than any other? The question now being, are you an arrogant hypocrite or just an ignorant hypocrite?

    4. Re:Reviews... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The question now being, are you an arrogant hypocrite or just an ignorant hypocrite?

      The answer now being, yes.

    5. Re:Reviews... by asdf7890 · · Score: 1

      And your opinion of his opinion should be of consequence to anyone?

      Thankyou good sir, for blessing us with your pithy little interjection. People who were going to follow that opinion like sheep will no doubt now follow yours. Dunt it make you proud. There was a little sarcasm there by the way. In case you missed it.

    6. Re:Reviews... by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      No, but it makes a difference to the movie studios and their profits.

      For instance, you plan to see it on Netflix, not at the theater. Why is that? Is it because you've seen to many reviews of this movie which weren't proclaiming it to be excellent?

      This happened for my wife and me and Green Lantern. She really wanted to see that, but after we saw too many bad reviews (not horrible, just saying it wasn't anything great and actually a little on the lousy side), we gave up on it and we're waiting to see it on Netflix. So we'll still see it, but we won't make a special trip out of it, like we just did with Captain America, which had great reviews and really was very good.

      When you see movies at the theater, this makes the studios a lot more money than when you watch them on Netflix or a rented DVD. So people deciding to wait for the DVD/Netflix has a serious impact on the studios' bottom line.

    7. Re:Reviews... by nedlohs · · Score: 1

      I didn't use the word "read", this is slashdot after all.

      The only assumption i made was that you didn't hit keys on your keyboard and click your mouse with your eyes shut and somehow fluke a vaguely on topic post to a web site.

    8. Re:Reviews... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And what's it to you, honcho?

  4. Cool starry bra by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Cool starry bra

  5. Alien vs Ninja by nhat11 · · Score: 3, Informative

    They already have an alien vs ninja =) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_vs_Ninja

    1. Re:Alien vs Ninja by covaro · · Score: 1

      They already have an alien vs ninja =) : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_vs_Ninja

      And it has to be one of the worst movies I have ever seen. I'll never get those 90 minutes back.

    2. Re:Alien vs Ninja by jdgeorge · · Score: 1

      Right on! What's more...

      Alien & Aliens. Now THAT would be a movie.

      doesn't this qualify? There's even a video game

    3. Re:Alien vs Ninja by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Snakes on an Alien Ship?

    4. Re:Alien vs Ninja by Genda · · Score: 1

      Starring Samuel L. Jackson and Sigourney Weaver... ewwwww...

    5. Re:Alien vs Ninja by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've seen that. It's bloody hilarious. Classic beer & mates type film.

  6. Crappy, crappy film by heptapod · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's nothing like the comic and as AC posted there are eight writers which is a warning sign.

    I was hoping there would be a high noon shootout, a crazy old prospector sidekick, the whore with a heart of gold and a six shooter between her boobs, saving an alien from being hung by the sheriff who's more crooked than the branch on the executioner's tree. Instead "Aliens are greedy like us. Supposedly killing off humans means they can get all our gold." Aliens who can travel interstellar distances have the need to exterminate humanity when 16-17th century tradesmen traded realty for shiny beads of glass then have the unmitigated gall to gift those natives with blankets full of cooties. Crappy films are good when they're crowdpleasers but there weren't any joyful moments where humanity got their comeuppance against the aliens.

    I expected Blazing Saddles with anal probes. Instead I got JJ Abrams without lens flare.

    1. Re:Crappy, crappy film by jellomizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Sometimes an action flick is just that...
      Action flicks rarely if ever really have a good plot... We just think they do when we were kids, or teenagers. If you never saw any of the Star Wars movies then watched them (Even excluding the new ones) they would probably joke at the lame plot that they use to show off all the cool special effects.

      Why did they need the force? Well as a plot device to show people doing super human things, so they can make these cool special effects with it, did the force really add to the plot much... Lets see...
      Boy Find messagers who direct them to a an old general.
      General befriends boy and asks him to join him,
      Boy rejects then finds guardians dead from bad guy.
      Boy goes with general as has nothing else to do.
      General finds Rogues to do work No Questions Asked.
      General, Boy and Rogues go on quest get caught by Bad Guys.
      General, Boy and Rogues try to escape and rescue the Dame.
      General works on the escape, while Boy and Rogues find dame.
      Dame helps Boy and Rogues escape.
      General Finds Bad Guy fights to the death and dies.
      Boy takes Generals place.
      Boy kills Bad Guys...
      Boy becomes Hero.

      Now you can take that story plot, and change things around many ways to create hundreds of movies. After such movies we do not gain much insight into anything. They are just fun to watch the special effects, and its easy plot allows our imagination to make us feel like we can be the hero too.

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    2. Re:Crappy, crappy film by scosco62 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, and I truly believe that there are a crowd of people who really really want Harrison Ford to do something that doesn't suck. We keep buying tickets, and it's a surprise when we get oatmeal instead of steak. Out the last twenty-ish movies, three have been tolerable, none have been great. Before the early 90's, then it was 50/50..... Cowboys & Aliens Morning Glory Extraordinary Measures Crossing Over Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull Firewall Hollywood Homicide K-19: The Widowmaker What Lies Beneath Random Hearts Six Days Seven Nights Air Force One The Devil's Own Sabrina Clear and Present Danger The Fugitive Patriot Games Regarding Henry Presumed Innocent and Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade Working Girl Frantic The Mosquito Coast Witness Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi Blade Runner

    3. Re:Crappy, crappy film by flaming+error · · Score: 2

      I love your story idea. But I can't let the beads-for-realty thing go without making the comment that the Natives didn't pretend to own any land, so if anybody got taken for a ride in such a deal it was the one who purchased from a non-owner.

      But I think the realty reality was more about violent force (and cooties) than swindling.

    4. Re:Crappy, crappy film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I enjoyed the movie a lot. It's entertainment, it's for fun. If you are going to look for a logical plot line and deep significant meaning don't watch something that has cowboys and aliens in it. There was lots of action, some plot twists, some heart wrenching tragedy, a pretty girl, lots of funny stuff and even a few subtle jokes. There were heroes and villains, the bad guys lost, the good guys won, and the hero redeemed himself. A great way to spend a couple of hours on a Saturday afternoon. If micro-criticizing every possible little thing that could possibly be considered imperfect does it for you then go ahead an hit that button, but I think most people would enjoy the show and consider they got fair value for their money.

    5. Re:Crappy, crappy film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...Wow. I hadn't really thought of A New Hope in that context, but you're completely right. I haven't felt this let down since I found out that Santa Claus wasn't real...

    6. Re:Crappy, crappy film by KarrdeSW · · Score: 3, Informative

      It's also worth noting that the land was actually traded for several thousand dollars (in that time, not today's) worth of beads, firearms, cookware, and other manufactured goods (the bulk of which was NOT the beads).

      It's especially worth noting that the natives who sold the land didn't live there. They actually sold a neighboring tribe's land. The rest is violent force and cooties.

    7. Re:Crappy, crappy film by ratnerstar · · Score: 1

      I get your point, but there really aren't any huge OMG special effects in Star Wars related to the force. Stuff moving without being touched? A dude grabbing his neck and pretending like he's getting choked? The most famous force moment is done completely through dialogue ("These aren't the droids you're looking for").

      Star Wars special effects were all things like space ships and planets blowing up.

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    8. Re:Crappy, crappy film by heptapod · · Score: 1

      It is entertainment but by no means was this film anywhere near the definition of 'fun'.

      Unless the audience is stoned or drunk and getting handjobs.

    9. Re:Crappy, crappy film by genner · · Score: 3, Funny

      Sometimes an action flick is just that... Action flicks rarely if ever really have a good plot... We just think they do when we were kids, or teenagers. If you never saw any of the Star Wars movies then watched them (Even excluding the new ones) they would probably joke at the lame plot that they use to show off all the cool special effects.

      Why did they need the force? Well as a plot device to show people doing super human things, so they can make these cool special effects with it, did the force really add to the plot much... Lets see... Boy Find messagers who direct them to a an old general. General befriends boy and asks him to join him, Boy rejects then finds guardians dead from bad guy. Boy goes with general as has nothing else to do. General finds Rogues to do work No Questions Asked. General, Boy and Rogues go on quest get caught by Bad Guys. General, Boy and Rogues try to escape and rescue the Dame. General works on the escape, while Boy and Rogues find dame. Dame helps Boy and Rogues escape. General Finds Bad Guy fights to the death and dies. Boy takes Generals place. Boy kills Bad Guys... Boy becomes Hero.

      Now you can take that story plot, and change things around many ways to create hundreds of movies. After such movies we do not gain much insight into anything. They are just fun to watch the special effects, and its easy plot allows our imagination to make us feel like we can be the hero too.

      Boy finds out the bad guy was his father NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

    10. Re:Crappy, crappy film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did this get modded insightful? I could sum it up even more than this guy.
      There are good guys. They go after the bad guys. Good guys win.

      There is rarely more plot than that in any movie. The beauty is in the way that plot is brought about and internal struggles.
      Star wars episodes 4-6 are all well done. To pass them off as the same old story is simple-minded at best. Have you no imagination?

    11. Re:Crappy, crappy film by Brett+Buck · · Score: 2

      Crappy films are good when they're crowdpleasers but there weren't any joyful moments where humanity got their comeuppance against the aliens.

            Huh? You pull for aliens because humans deserve their comeuppance? This is a bizarre little corner of the world we have here...

            Brett

    12. Re:Crappy, crappy film by jmorris42 · · Score: 0

      > gift those natives with blankets full of cooties.

      I just love how progressive politics causes people to divorce from reality. Go look up the dates on a couple of events. Date #1, when these blankets (with cooties) were supposedly being given to the Indians/Native Americans to cause a plague to descend upon them and Date #2 is the date when the germ theory of disease became accepted science. The rest is an exercise for the non-progressive student. (Progressive students tending to be immune to fact based arguments.)

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    13. Re:Crappy, crappy film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Unless the audience is stoned or drunk and getting handjobs.

      I want to go to that theater.

    14. Re:Crappy, crappy film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lots of faggots went to see this one because they like the anal probes.

    15. Re:Crappy, crappy film by cusco · · Score: 2

      Knowledge of the germ theory is immaterial. Even the most primitive of peoples know that giving a sick person's goods to a healthy person can make the recipient sick, they don't have to know WHY they get sick to recognize that simple fact. That's why so many cultures burn a deceased relative's clothing and bedding, so that whatever killed them doesn't come back for the survivors. The Brits didn't give away cast-off blankets from the royal family or from people killed in the frequent mine disasters, they specifically handed out blankets from a smallpox infirmary (probably leaving sick residents without blankets in the process) centuries after they had instituted quarantines for people with serious infectious diseases like pneumonic (sp?) plague.

      I've come the the conclusion that one of the reasons that conservatives repeat the same disastrous policies time after time is that they're mostly ignorant of history and cultures other than their own.

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    16. Re:Crappy, crappy film by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Boy finds out the bad guy was his father NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

      Boy finds out princess was his sister...ewwwwwwwwww!

    17. Re:Crappy, crappy film by xigxag · · Score: 1

      Even bad movies have standards, and degrees of badness, whether it be corny dialog, cheesy effects, poor camerawork, or just a boring story. Remember how awesome "Snakes on a Plane" was gonna be?? And what we wound up with? So yes, even a movie with a title like "Cowboys & Aliens" deserves a proper critical review, otherwise you could just as easily end up with oblivion.

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  7. what? by Desler · · Score: 1

    and a Han Solo

    "A" Han Solo? Since when were there multiples?

    1. Re:what? by bertoelcon · · Score: 1

      A voice actor from the video games maybe?

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    2. Re:what? by shawn(at)fsu · · Score: 5, Funny

      There are at least two different Han Solos. One of them shot first, the other shot in self defense. It's all very quantum.

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    3. Re:what? by vuke69 · · Score: 1

      Schrödinger's Han Solo?

      Or would that be Han Duo?

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    4. Re:what? by zippthorne · · Score: 1

      What? There can be only ONE. His last name is Solo for crying out loud.

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    5. Re:what? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You may be getting confused with the martini maker, Hans Olo, from Stir Wars.

    6. Re:what? by mcswell · · Score: 1

      Half 'n half.

  8. Putin is not James Bond by h4rr4r · · Score: 2, Funny

    Daniel Craig aka Vladimir Putin should be a Bond villain not James Bond. How do they explain him being a cowboy in this? The KGB sent him to spy on our cattle?

    1. Re:Putin is not James Bond by NatasRevol · · Score: 1

      I don't even know what this means.

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    2. Re:Putin is not James Bond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Daniel Craig aka Vladimir Putin should be a Bond villain not James Bond. How do they explain him being a cowboy in this? The KGB sent him to spy on our cattle?

      Why would the KGB send an English actor to spy on American cattle.

    3. Re:Putin is not James Bond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Putin is not James Bond by operagost · · Score: 2

      Dude, Craig is half Welsh, half English.

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    5. Re:Putin is not James Bond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Why would the KGB send an English actor to spy on American cattle.

      Because no one would suspect him?

    6. Re:Putin is not James Bond by Talderas · · Score: 1

      It's kind of like how Pierce Brosnan playing Bond doesn't make sense.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fourth_Protocol_(film)

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    7. Re:Putin is not James Bond by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Funny

      Dude, Craig is half Welsh, half English.

      God, keep him out of the kitchen, whatever you do.

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    8. Re:Putin is not James Bond by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It means that the Russians are after the secret of the pet cemetery.

  9. Next Summer's Blockbuster by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Smurfs vs. Aliens. Little blue men vs. little green men.

    1. Re:Next Summer's Blockbuster by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1
  10. Come on.... by wjousts · · Score: 2

    Pirates & Aliens? Ninjas & Aliens?

    Pirates & Ninjas, obviously!

    1. Re:Come on.... by 0racle · · Score: 1

      How can there not be a Pirates v. Ninjas yet? They wouldn't do it right though. It should be non-stop violence and action with next to no story and absolutely no romantic subplot or motivations. 90 minute film, 85 minutes of action.

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    2. Re:Come on.... by Nidi62 · · Score: 1

      Pirates & Aliens? Ninjas & Aliens?

      Pirates & Ninjas, obviously!

      I have always said that the only thing missing from The Last Samurai was pirates, and it would have then become the ultimate action movie, because it would have had pirates, ninja, samurai, and machine guns.

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    3. Re:Come on.... by Thud457 · · Score: 2

      I think you're forgetting about Harper Lee's timeless classic "How to Kill a Mockingbird". I think that pretty much says all that needs, nay, can be said in the pirates vs ninjas genre.

      But you still have monkey vs robot vs pirate vs ninja (vs alien vs predator vs terminator (wait, robot...)) which is wide open.

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    4. Re:Come on.... by mdf356 · · Score: 4, Funny

      90 minute film, 85 minutes of action.

      So, a porno without the sex? :-)

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    5. Re:Come on.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, they did a Samurai vs. Ninjas vs. Pirates vs. Priests as a miniseries named Shogun. But is mostly story with a romantic subplot and not much action.
      I still recommend it.

    6. Re:Come on.... by game+kid · · Score: 1

      The series will end in 2031 with the Oscar-winning, Capcom-sponsored blockbuster, Super Cowboys and Aliens and Pirates and Ninjas and Monkeys and Robots and Pride and Prejudice and Zombies II Turbo: Hyper Fighting.

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    7. Re:Come on.... by LC+Trucido · · Score: 1

      I'd watc

    8. Re:Come on.... by dev.null.matt · · Score: 1

      How can there not be a Pirates v. Ninjas yet? They wouldn't do it right though. It should be non-stop violence and action with next to no story and absolutely no romantic subplot or motivations. 90 minute film, 85 minutes of action.

      I think you're looking for this this .

    9. Re:Come on.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The series will end in 2031 with the Oscar-winning, Capcom-sponsored blockbuster, Super Cowboys and Aliens and Pirates and Ninjas and Monkeys and Robots and Pride and Prejudice and Zombies II Turbo: Hyper Fighting.

      "...Electric Boogaloo"

    10. Re:Come on.... by alba · · Score: 1

      Super Robot Hyper Monkey Mega Force Go. The Movie. With Ninjas.

  11. Think I'll be skipping this one by elrous0 · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The producers include the Ron Howard/Brian Grazer team, Steven Spielburg and those Lost guys again.

    Wow, that just screams mediocre crap before the first scene even plays.

    Same problem with Indiana Jones the action just isn't believable any more- he looks and moves like an old man

    Ford seems to be one of those actors who just can't accept his age. And for some reason, everyone is still indulging him (maybe they're still starstruck from his younger days). Personally, he's one of the actors I would least want to ever have to work with. He comes off as an arrogant prick in just about every interview and the people who've worked with him don't ever seem to have many kind words for him (except Lucas and Spielburg, who both started working with him before he became so big). Basically, he's an old-school movie star who does everything HIS way and isn't going to listen to any direction at all, especially someone telling him "You're an old man now, and you look stupid as shit in a fight scene." And this is not the kind of movie he should be in anymore (not sure what in the hell Favreau was thinking).

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    1. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

      Hollywood is a bottom-line industry. When they see "Harrison" they think of all the money his movies have generated. If they have to wheel him out on stage they'll do it.

      Same thing with a lot of other aging actors. Sylvester Stallone is still squeezing blood from that stone and they're talking about a Die Hard 5!!! I really just don't get why Hollywood doesn't trust the new generation of leading men to carry films. Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, et. al. are proven assets.

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    2. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by TimHunter · · Score: 2

      He was thinking he wants to sell tickets to people over 40. Especially women over 40. Nothing wrong with that. Rosie Huntington-Whitely isn't in Transformers 3 for her acting skills.

    3. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by Baloroth · · Score: 1

      Rosie Huntington-Whitely isn't in Transformers 3 for her acting skills.

      Really? I'm pretty sure simply being alive counts as good acting for that series. And yes, I am including plants.

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    4. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just to be clear, Harrison Ford is about 70 years old. My mother, who is also about 70 years old, thinks he's hot and she went to see the movie with me primarily because he was in it. (She liked the film.)

      I, on the other hand, am a woman the same age as Mr. Craig (we are both over 40). Although Mr. Ford was very appealing to me when I was a teenage girl watching Star Wars, now he looks old and tired to me. I'd much rather look at the toothsome Mr. Craig.

    5. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by Talderas · · Score: 1

      Die Hard was Bruce Willis.

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    6. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Lost guys is the dead giveaway that it sucks. I loved Lost until they tried to plug the 1 million plot holes at the end. Eventually the number of things which had no explanation or were explained by "it's magic!" ruined the entire series. Lost was great at making you wonder what the hell was going on but little else. Anything else written by these guys is likely to suck just as badly. It would be nice if Hollywood would finally figure this out, but since Lost made tons of money stringing people along, that's unlikely.

    7. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      Ford seems to be one of those actors who just can't accept his age.

      It is not so much that as the fact that everything he has done that isn't an action film has bombed.

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    8. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by DesScorp · · Score: 1

      Hugh Jackman, Russell Crowe, et. al. are proven assets.

      Crowe maybe, but some people think he's already beyond his sell-by date. And Jackman? I like him, but name one hit he's carried as the leading star? He was the big attraction in the first X-Men movie, so they gave him a Wolverine movie. Didn't do to well? Swordfish? Mediocre sales. Australia? Nobody outside of Australia went to see it. He's been in a number of underperforming romantic flicks. He's yet to carry an action movie all on his own. Ford and Craig have. I like Jackman better than either, but this is the Hollywood calculus.

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    9. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      That's another prick I wouldn't want to work with. Kevin Smith had a routine on him that pretty much summed up what it's like to work with Bruce Willis. It was basically along the lines of "I would give Bruce direction and he would either insult me or completely ignore me." Now, depending on your opinion of Kevin Smith, that was either appropriate or rude. But Bruce still doesn't come off as the kind of guy you want to have to work with every day on a stressful shoot.

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    10. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      No, he's made some decent dramatic films (Witness, The Mosquito Coast, Regarding Henry, etc.). I think he just wants the big paychecks.

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    11. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by jackbird · · Score: 1

      It's not the age, it's the massive marijuana habit.

    12. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by Talderas · · Score: 1

      I would prefer a second source. After all, Kevin Smith is a prick.

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    13. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by mjwx · · Score: 1
      Australian here,

      Crowe maybe, but some people think he's already beyond his sell-by date.

      Romper Stomper was from the 80's.

      That phone throwing kiwi is deffo past his use by date.

      And Jackman? I like him, but name one hit he's carried as the leading star

      Strictly Ballroom,

      Being lead in that Baz Lurhman Stinker alone should disqualify him from every being in another movie ever again or even having his name spoken aloud in civilised conversation.

      Jackman is a drama actor, not an action actor. Never was, never will be, X-men was a fluke, the two proceeding X-men and the Worlverine movie proved that.

      I'd like to see more of Jason Stratham (Transporter, Lock Stock and Two Smoking Barrels). But then Hollywood would need to stop requiring the lead role to be an Americans for action movies. Eric Bana would also be able to do some light action, that piece of crap Hulk movie not withstanding, to see Bana in his best form you need to watch "Chopper" (Bana was also in Black Hawk Down) but Bana is primarily a comedian.

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    14. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      But then Hollywood would need to stop requiring the lead role to be an Americans for action movies.

      Where have YOU been for the last decade? These days it's hard to find a lead in a Hollywood movie who *isn't* a Brit, Australian, etc. Actual *American* action stars went out of fashion years ago.

      Hell, look at Cowboys and Aliens. Harrison Ford who (literally) got grandfathered in as an American action star. And Daniel Craig, a Brit.

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    15. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by tmarsh86 · · Score: 1

      Romper Stomper was from the 80's.

      Romper Stomper was from the 90s. Statham isn't much younger than Crowe. I think it's time for a new generation of action stars to take over and I don't care if they are Aussies, Brits, Kiwis or pineapples as long as the people making the film(writers, directors, producers) do a halfway decent job.

    16. Re:Think I'll be skipping this one by ynp7 · · Score: 1

      Hugh Jackman wasn't in Strictly Ballroom, clown.

  12. Alien vs. Ninja by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They actually made that before Cowboys and Aliens...

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1592503/

  13. Reading this hurts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I thought Harrison Ford to once again proves that he is just to old for this sort of work"

    Is CmdrTaco ESL? I have not seen grammatical flubs with this density since teaching english abroad.

    1. Re:Reading this hurts by jason.sweet · · Score: 1

      I have not seen grammatical flubs with this density since teaching english abroad.

      You must be new here.

    2. Re:Reading this hurts by Kozar_The_Malignant · · Score: 1

      >I have not seen grammatical flubs with this density since teaching english abroad.

      Go to any American high school. Listen to the students. Worse yet, listen to the teachers. Follow this with an emergency trip to your therapist in a probably vain effort to stave off suicidal depression.

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  14. A vs A? Done that. by pupitetris · · Score: 2

    Remember Aliens VS Predator, which was another OK movie.

  15. This movie was AWESOME. by PatTheGreat · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seriously. I don't care what the critics say, it had cowboys, aliens, Olivia Wilde, Daniel Craig, and Harrison Ford. If you don't like it, then you, my friend, just don't know art.

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    1. Re:This movie was AWESOME. by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but it can't truly be perfect unless Michael Bay is directing.

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    2. Re:This movie was AWESOME. by ImprovOmega · · Score: 2

      Exactly. Though I wouldn't say they don't know art as much as they don't know how to have fun at the movies!

    3. Re:This movie was AWESOME. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Olivia "Cockburn" Wilde is butt fugly, Daniel Craig is a douchbag and Harrison Ford is a fossil. Fuck this movie.

    4. Re:This movie was AWESOME. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Anyone who liked this films is a loser.

    5. Re:This movie was AWESOME. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Olivia Cockburn has a mannish face, like Claire Danes or Morgan Web. She also looks a bit like Conan O'Brien.

  16. It was like a Linux conf near WWDC by snikulin · · Score: 1

    Harry Potter movie was in the next auditorium. A lot of good looking chicks.
    Our C&A auditorium: No chicks whatsoever. A lot of gray neck-bearded geeks. Bleah.
    I am shaving my gray beard ASAP.

    The movie was OK. Not great but passable.

    1. Re:It was like a Linux conf near WWDC by ginbot462 · · Score: 2

      It got you to want to shave. Come on, that's something! Sort of like how Michael Bay films give me dysentery.

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  17. Air Force One by Nidi62 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Am I the only one that was hoping for a scene on a train, so that Harrison Ford could tell an alien to "Get off my train"?

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    1. Re:Air Force One by TheAlmightyQ · · Score: 1

      No Ticket

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    2. Re:Air Force One by DriedClexler · · Score: 1

      Enough is enough! I have had it with these motherfuckin' aliens on this motherfuckin' train!

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    3. Re:Air Force One by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ...surprise appearance by Samuel L Jackson

    4. Re:Air Force One by mdielmann · · Score: 1

      Am I the only one that was hoping for a scene on a train, so that Harrison Ford could tell an alien to "Get off my train"?

      Please, no. That would require a new action movie with a fight scene on top of a car so he could say "Get off my automobile." The world doesn't need that.

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  18. Alien & Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Alien & Aliens -- Isn't that AVP: Alien vs. Predator?

    And Ninjas & Aliens -- apparently that was made last year: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1592503/

    1. Re:Alien & Aliens by Guspaz · · Score: 1

      I saw it last year at Fantasia. It was cheesetastic, but it had the audience hooting, hollering, and cheering along. It's the kind of B-movie where if you embrace the cheese and insanity, you have a great time. The director was at the screening to talk a bit, it was a blast.

  19. Zeppelin vs Pterodactyls - dammit! by smoothnorman · · Score: 3, Interesting
    This is the one and only most critical RandomA-vs-RandomB film that cries out to be made!: http://boingboing.net/2007/07/31/zeppelin-vs-pterodac.html

    Jürgen Prochnow as the prussian sabre scarred Zeppelin captain with a vast history and one last battle to prove! ...and i dunno...uh, John Malkovich as the psionically mentally linked Pterodactyl master - who, unlikely enough, has a past that overlaps Prochnow's ...yeah.

    1. Re:Zeppelin vs Pterodactyls - dammit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      +1. I would see that movie.

    2. Re:Zeppelin vs Pterodactyls - dammit! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe James Cameron can hoodwink the production company into making a 9/10th size replica of a zeppelin for this one; like he did with Titanic?

  20. You Know... by jimmerz28 · · Score: 2

    It might be worth seeing if it had Vin Diesel.

    And I was really drunk.

    1. Re:You Know... by ginbot462 · · Score: 1

      and they're were hookers and blackjack?

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    2. Re:You Know... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      Oh come on, Pitch Black and CoR wasn't that bad. In fact, I actually enjoyed the series.

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    3. Re:You Know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it would be worth seeing if a really drunk Vin Diesel was in it!

    4. Re:You Know... by jimmerz28 · · Score: 1

      No I liked Pitch Black and I like Vin Diesel his voice is crazy.

      But Cowboys & Aliens looks like it will be as good as The Pacifier (2/10) was, which I only saw very drunk and only because Vin was in it.

    5. Re:You Know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      come out of the closet already, brokeback mountain dude

    6. Re:You Know... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've tried drinking before Vin Diesel films, and it doesn't really help.

    7. Re:You Know... by cusco · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but 'Pitch Black' had Claudia Black in it. They should have killed off Diesel and kept her, and I'd have watched the rest of the series.

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  21. My short review. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It wasn't a bad movie. But it wasn't original either.

    I shouldn't compain too much about that though, since there really aren't any original movies. Every movie I ever watch these days just gives me a sense of deja-vu.

    And, no, Matrix was not original, you kids. Off my lawn!

    1. Re:My short review. by DJRumpy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I always enjoy when someone comes along and says a movie isn't original, not noting the fact that there are no previous big release movies with Cowboys and Aliens that I can recall. I'm sure there may be some hidden in some B-Movie treasure trove, but the fact that a main line studio did this is refreshing rather than re-rehashing some remake done 4 times already.

      The movie itself has familiar 'themes' but that's about it. If you go to that extreme, every movie and story told today has similar themes (boy meets girl, good vs bad, yada yada). The movie was better than usual summer fare, with an interesting plot and an unusual story idea. That is to be encouraged, especially when they managed to pull it off as well as they did.

      No regrets seeing this one.

    2. Re:My short review. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always enjoy when someone comes along and says a movie isn't original, not noting the fact that there are no previous big release movies with Cowboys and Aliens that I can recall.

      The specifics aren't what matters - the plot is essentially the same as Stargate once the aliens are discovered.

    3. Re:My short review. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Did you see this movie?

      Stargate: Ancient aliens who use stargates to travel to other worlds, find and subjugate the ancient earth population into slavery and declare themselves gods.

      CB&A: A probe force finds earth and lands to start mining it's gold which they also consider a valuable element. They snatch a few humans to study and experiment on but otherwise ignore the local populace.

      I see your point. At least both movies happened on earth, at least in some scenes.

    4. Re:My short review. by craigminah · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of a quote from Jack Handy (SNL): "I think Superman and Santa Claus are actually the same guy and I’ll tell you why. Both fly both wear red and both have a beard." Stargate and CB&A are similar but only superficially. A better but still lame comparison would be the Twilight Zone Episode "To Serve Man" and CB&A. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_Serve_Man_(The_Twilight_Zone))

    5. Re:My short review. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Like I said, specifics don't matter. The general formula is exactly the same, in three acts

      1. mysterious alien presence discovered
      2. powerful aliens beat down heroes and capture their loved ones
      3. heroes regroup, organize a resistance, rescue loved ones and destroy aliens through clever tactics

    6. Re:My short review. by Wyatt+Earp · · Score: 1

      Thats not what happened in this one.

      1. Mysterious Stranger(s) appears
      2. Mysterious alien presence discovered which beats down heroes and capture their loved ones
      3. Journey to find the mysterious aliens
      4. Heroes regroup, organize a resistance, rescue loved ones and destroy aliens through clever tactics

    7. Re:My short review. by Grishnakh · · Score: 1

      No kidding. If you really look at all the stories written, there haven't been very many totally "original" plots since the ancient Greeks.

      Cowboys and Aliens and Matrix seem original enough to me (relatively speaking, as mentioned above). Of course, originality alone doesn't make a movie great; there's lots of movies with original ideas, but bad acting, bad direction, bad screenwriting can all ruin it.

    8. Re:My short review. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh yeah, that's miles apart.

      </rolleyes>

    9. Re:My short review. by Lehk228 · · Score: 1

      the same in that both have aliens getting blown to hell at the end?

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    10. Re:My short review. by SpryGuy · · Score: 1

      Well dear lord... then EVERY movie and book is just the exact same and they should just top making them.

      I mean they all have an introduction, rising action, a climax, and falling action.

      (just shaking my head at some of these bizarre "criticisms")

      It's a decent movie. It's fun. It's intense in parts. One good scare. A couple of annoyingly suspension-of-disbelief-breaking plot points. But over all, a decent summer action/suspense flick.

      A first grade western grafted to a second-rate sci-fi flick, with some decent actors and direction. Given the story pretty much followed the plot of the comic, it's hard to complain about the story.

      Best thing: It wasn't a sequel to anything, and doesn't seem to promise any sequels. It's just a good old-fashioned stand-alone movie.

      What's not to like?

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    11. Re:My short review. by Genda · · Score: 1

      Mayhaps you're watching the wrong movies? Try the Cohen Brothers. If you can predict plot turns in a Cohen film with greater than 60% (random plus a skosh more that an a standard deviation), then my friend you are a cinema god and should be writing plots not watching them. As for the inspiration of movies, I tend to agree that most of the great plots have been taken (in most cases by ancient Greeks, ancient Romans and Shakespeare batting cleanup.) That doesn't mean you can't couch the plot in an interesting context to give it new and current meaning.

      The Wachowsky's went so far as to say that they were deeply inspired by the classics when they conceived of the Matrix. That doesn't mean that the Matrix (I speak preferentially of the first episode) didn't have a wonderful mix of classic themes and new ways of seeing and expressing those themes. The philosophical conversation that post modern man is drifting through life in in some approximation of a sleep walking state is (in my opinion) brilliant and they handled that conversation deftly. That is completely separate from the cinematography, visualization, or CG action they brought to the party for everyone else. At least the Wachowskys had the artistic integrity not vomit a happy ending on its audience.

      This weekend "The Tourist" premiered on Starz. It wasn't a bad movie, the stars were beautiful, and the plot was fun (if not more than a little fluffy.) Sadly, the entire plot was completely predictable ( figured that Johnny Depp was the mystery man in the first 15 minutes.) It was handled as a ham-fisted contrivance. Look over here! Don't look over there! Magic! I think not. This is the norm these days. Sadly, most popular movies are like most popular music these days. Flavorless, mindless, endless clones on a theme designed to distract you as Corporate America picks your pocket. Try foreign films. Try independent films. Try classic films. There is a world of cinema that is thoughtful, provocative, and satisfying. Just don't expect that to come from Hollywood, the bankers would never allow it.

    12. Re:My short review. by Genda · · Score: 1

      Not to wander too far off the topic, but does it ever strike you funny these plots where plucky human beings give big bad aliens a lesson in guerrilla warfare? Like a life-form that traveled endless light-years doesn't have the technology to snuff the entire planet out like a candle. That these beings who are thousands, millions, perhaps even billions of years more advanced than us, are going to suffer from clinical stupidity or hubris.

      Or even what the hell they're doing here in the first place? Here we are, this vanishingly tiny speck in space, and there are vast resources outweighing anything we have by many orders of magnitude laying all over the place. Anything that decided it wanted earth for any reason would have started with all the giant gas planets and icy bodies in the solar system first, we'd see them coming years in advance, and there wouldn't be a damn thing we could do about it. It be more like flat worms vs Cowboys... bang! squish!

      Maybe that would be an interesting plot for a sci fi?

    13. Re:My short review. by Walt+Dismal · · Score: 1

      Movies have a structure (the skeleton) and a style (muscles and flesh) applied on top of the skeleton to smooth it out.

      Movies can have the same skeleton and yet a far different appearance just as two women can have a similar skeleton but one is a tub of lard and the other is Olivia Wilde.

      Thus, so what if many movies have the Joseph Campbell Hero's Journey structure.

    14. Re:My short review. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well dear lord... then EVERY movie and book is just the exact same and they should just top making them.

      Not exactly. If you take a familiar plot or familiar themes or characters and put a new twist on them, that is satisfying.

      If you just take the same basic story and put it in a new setting with new trappings, it becomes an exercise in "how much can we change before the audience stops saying 'hey, I've seen this story before'?"

      I mean they all have an introduction, rising action, a climax, and falling action.

      Fair enough, but that's clearly overgeneralizing.

    15. Re:My short review. by tmarsh86 · · Score: 1

      I always enjoy when someone comes along and says a movie isn't original, not noting the fact that there are no previous big release movies with Cowboys and Aliens that I can recall. I'm sure there may be some hidden in some B-Movie treasure trove, but the fact that a main line studio did this is refreshing rather than re-rehashing some remake done 4 times already.

      The movie itself has familiar 'themes' but that's about it. If you go to that extreme, every movie and story told today has similar themes (boy meets girl, good vs bad, yada yada). The movie was better than usual summer fare, with an interesting plot and an unusual story idea. That is to be encouraged, especially when they managed to pull it off as well as they did.

      No regrets seeing this one.

      All they did was jump on the comic-book movie bandwagon. Since all the prime/popular material had been gobbled up by their competitors, they(Dreamworks/Imagine) had to pick through what was left. Not saying that the comic version of Cowboys and Aliens is bad(because I actually like it), just that it's way down on the list of recognizable material for the mainstream masses- much like Kick-Ass, Watchmen, Jonah Hex, Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Wanted, and The Surrogates. I like that the studios are making films from some of these (mostly)independent comic gems, but let's not start giving Hollywood credit for being original.

    16. Re:My short review. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That these beings who are thousands, millions, perhaps even billions of years more advanced than us, are going to suffer from clinical stupidity or hubris.

      Doesn't seem too far fetched, we (as humans in general) still suffer from those traits, and I don't see why developing intra-galactic space travel would cure us of them.

  22. Smurfs vs. Aliens - possible must see by Overzeetop · · Score: 1

    And if Jayma Mays shows up in that movie naked, I'm there.

    (Yes, she's in my list of five. Just sayin'...)

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  23. I enjoyed it by DoofusOfDeath · · Score: 2

    To me it was a fun, marginally campy movie. Daniel Craig does a pretty good job playing the tough guy. I didn't go in looking for a life-changing experience, and I came of the theater having enjoyed myself.

    I guess each has his own opinion, but I still don't understanding the hating some people have for this movie, given its limited ambitions in the first place.

    1. Re:I enjoyed it by eclectro · · Score: 1

      Agreed. I went in expecting a bunch of cowboy cliche's and some mean aliens for a summertime popcorn movie. I also expected cowboys shooting at aliens. And that's exactly what we got. I also don't understand why everyone is dumping on the movie. I think some of it is that moviegoers have become "spoiled" on such high production values that they have become too hard to please.

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    2. Re:I enjoyed it by scubamage · · Score: 1

      They're the same people who went to "Snakes on a Plane" expecting a life-changing, deep, inspiring experience. Instead they got snakes. On a plane. So they whined and complained and bitched and moaned.

    3. Re:I enjoyed it by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I also agree.. :)

      Well put. Sometimes movies are just supposed to be fun. I mean, seriously? We're praising movies on the one hand that have just as silly a premise as this one, but because someone has a boner against Daniel Craig as James Bond, this movie lacks "substance"? WTF? Didn't the title clue everyone in? (As for Craig, I enjoyed his Bond movies... more than I can say for the last 4 Bonds...)

      Now for the rest of you neckbeard Comic Book Guys:

      Sometimes movies are just that... fun rides. Who gives a shit if Harrison Ford is arrogant? The man's been in film franchises that grossed a bazillion dollars... and he's a good actor. He's wiping his ass with $100 bills and that sparks jealousy. He doesn't "Burt Reynolds" his way through a part... he's believable.

      As for high art in this movie... is everyone missing the fun? All critical folk should look at this movie the way they SHOULD have looked at the Star Wars prequels... through 11-year-old eyes. Stop trying to turn simple action space operas into hard science fiction all the time. You'll live longer. :)

      This movie has all the elements:

      Cowboys? Check.
      Aliens? Check.
      Explosions? Check.
      Action thrills? Check.

      Pretty much pass me the popcorn. If I wanted to watch Shakespeare, I wouldn't go to a movie with the title "Cowboys and Aliens"...

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    4. Re:I enjoyed it by osu-neko · · Score: 1

      Yeah, it sounds like the movie is Exactly What It Says On The Tin. If you didn't like it, why did you go see it to begin with? What on earth were you expecting? xD

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      "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
    5. Re:I enjoyed it by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 1

      My problem is that whenever people say they're just in it for a mindless romp and they liked it, I listen and end up watching Transformers.

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    6. Re:I enjoyed it by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      They're the same people who went to "Snakes on a Plane" expecting a life-changing, deep, inspiring experience. Instead they got snakes. On a plane. So they whined and complained and bitched and moaned.

      Er, are you seriously suggesting that anyone went to see that film expecting anything other than an intentionally cheesy and tongue-in-cheek action film?!

      As strawman arguments go, that's so badly constructed that it's more a pile of straw with a happy face painted on. :-)

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    7. Re:I enjoyed it by godrik · · Score: 1

      I must say I enjoyed that movie as well. I went to see it yesterday just expecting "a cool movie ". And that was really cool. The plot is weak btu I must say I did not care too much about it. Daniel Craig's active a "survivor" type of man was very convincing. For once, I found the violence in that movie really violent for a sci fi movie. Usually you got a "pioo pioo" laser sound and the guy is dead, you cross the name of the character and go to the next seen.

      Here the action and violence looked really real. The intro scene left me thinking "Wow! That guy is serious." The scene out of the river was unexpected and the seeing the blow struck at Olivia Wilde's character clearly indicates she won't outlive it.

    8. Re:I enjoyed it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Pretty much pass me the popcorn. If I wanted to watch Shakespeare, I wouldn't go to a movie with the title "Cowboys and Aliens"..."

      Ah yes. That would be "Vagabonds and Frenchmen", one of his greatest action plays.

    9. Re:I enjoyed it by goodbyemrevans · · Score: 1

      I feel like I hear this argument a lot from people who enjoy consuming trash, generally movies and food - "It's not supposed to be "high art"; not everything needs to be interesting, intelligent, non-formulaic, well-made etc" Does Hollywood still produce art films? It seems to me if you live outside of a major city you don't really have options if you want to see a "good" film... I've been living in Jakarta the past year and a half and I know that here we ONLY get crap films from America.

    10. Re:I enjoyed it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Daniel Craig's bond is the poor man's Red Grant. He's the kinda guy Connery would have thrown off the train in From Russia with Love, only in Craig's case, it would have happened BEFORE the opening credits!

    11. Re:I enjoyed it by Doctor_Jest · · Score: 1

      When someone lambasts a movie with the title "Cowboys and Aliens" as if they were disappointed that the narrative fabric wasn't interwoven into each character's inner monologue... I get weary. It's not pretending to be anything but camp. There's room for camp. There was an ad for a film at the front of "Hobo with a Shotgun" about a homicidal tire. Yes, literally a tire that gets pushed to the point of snapping and killing those who have wronged him. If that's not "non-formulaic" I don't know what is. And when I say "tire" I don't mean "man in a Michelin suit" sort of thing. I mean, a physical tire you'd find on a passenger car. The trailer was fucking weird. But I think I want to see it. :)

      Good films are where you find them. I'd rather just be entertained for 2 hours... play me out with music. YMMV, of course... (Give Moon a look... it's a great movie.) Homicidal tires, ass-kicking Elvis impersonators... I love 'em all. (Yes, I loved Bubba Ho-Tep)

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  24. Popcorn Movies by IonOtter · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Y'know, people need to just learn to turn off their brains once in a while. If you really wanna use your brains when you see a movie, don't go to the cinema at the mall, go to the art-house cinema in the college district.

    This is where the genre of "popcorn movies" comes into play. It's not great, it's not bad, it's a movie you can enjoy so long as you've got a bit of popcorn to stuff in your face while you watch it. Quite frankly, the last "Steak and Potatoes" movie I saw was "Moon", and I left the theater incredibly happy. The last "Dinner and Nightcap" movie I saw was "Avatar", and I left THAT one a bit dizzy and giggly, wanting a cigarette.

    But most of the summer offerings so far have been either Popcorn, or flat out Pepto-Bismol. "Percy Jackson and the Olympians" from last year is a perfect example of a Peptol-Bismol movie, and I'm glad I didn't see it in the theater, but got it from "a friend".

    "Cowboys and Aliens"? I'd call this one a "Popcorn, Soda and Hot Dog" movie. It's not a "Steak and Potatoes" movie, but it's got more brains than just a popcorn. You don't need a brain, per se, but if you care to use it, you won't be terribly disappointed. You'll still be a bit peckish when you leave, but not sick over spending 10 bux.

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    1. Re:Popcorn Movies by Talderas · · Score: 1

      I saw Kung Fu Hustle and Ong Bak at my college's theater. Twas awesome without all the inconsiderate SOBs around.

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      "Lack of speed can be overcome. In the worst case by patience." --Znork
    2. Re:Popcorn Movies by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 1

      Y'know, people need to just learn to turn off their brains once in a while.

      Agreed. Art is a wide spectrum and Cowboys & Aliens firmly fits within that somewhere. Sure it's not Inception or Matrix but it doesn't try to be. Instead it's a new telling of a classic western story with the twist that the antagonists aren't from around these parts.

      It succeeds rather nicely in that both Harrison Ford's and Daniel Craig's delivery fits their roles superbly. They're fun to watch in the context that they're portraying the typical Dirty Harry style gruff western guy.

      I didn't go to this expecting or even wanting something it couldn't deliver. I was pleasantly surprised that once the aliens were revealed they were generally shown completely, in broad daylight. No flash-editing and blurred CGI or overly dark shadowy movement. No, for once in a sci-fi movie we got to see what was eating us. The story was linear, coherent, and clean. Contrast that to Transformers 2 and 3 (for instance) which were random kitchen-sink mashups of truly bullshit motivations.

      My point is simply that if you go to see something like say... Jurassic Park expecting high-brow cinema there's something wrong with you. Go expecting to see a movie wherein scientists recreate dinosaurs which then eat them. As long as the execution of the story is good - which in the case of Cowboys & Aliens it was - it's a success.

      Finally, aside from the good movie vs bad movie discussion I'd like to add that the comments about Harrison Ford's contribution sound like a lot of the folks leaving the comments evidently saw a different movie from the one I did... as in... they didn't see this one. His role is pretty much non-physical aside from one or two punches and shooting a gun here and there. There really wasn't much room for age to come into the (motion) picture. So I'm sorry, but that criticism is pretty much inflated way out of perspective.

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    3. Re:Popcorn Movies by k6mfw · · Score: 1

      > If you really wanna use your brains when you see a movie, don't go to the cinema at the mall, go to the art-house cinema in the college district.

      There are two kinds of people. Film lovers that sip fine wine and have intellectually stimulating discussions about the film. The others are those that eat popcorn and watch movies.

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    4. Re:Popcorn Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahah! We've got your profile and your slashdot id. Our lawyers will be at your door in a few minutes. Prepare to surrender all that you own unto us! Signed, The MPAA

    5. Re:Popcorn Movies by tecnico.hitos · · Score: 1

      Great, now I'm hungry.

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      The good, the evil and the vacuum tubes.
    6. Re:Popcorn Movies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I think people would be more willing to see 'popcorn' movies if they weren't priced as highly as 'steak' movies.

      Maybe they should have a QC based pricing system, my off the cuff proposal is this:

      Children only allowed in to specific showings $3
      Plotless, FX-less wonder: $4 for a parent + 2 kid combo of $10
      Quality comedy OR plot: +$2
      Fancy FX (lots of high quality explosions/etc): +$1
      3D eye-hurt: -$3

      (No that isn't a typo, 3D seems to be BS for 95%+ of the films; and worse are the ones that look like freaking Monty Python cutouts of live-action clips layered together; prime example to spring to mind is the Caspian Narnia film; particularly obvious while watching it.)

    7. Re:Popcorn Movies by blahplusplus · · Score: 1

      "Y'know, people need to just learn to turn off their brains once in a while."

      We do all the time the problem is even to our turned off brains they are stupid. There are simple movies that are bad, and there are simple movies that are good. It has very little to do with "brainyness" and has to do with movies being poorly made.

    8. Re:Popcorn Movies by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      If you really wanna use your brains when you see a movie, don't go to the cinema at the mall, go to the art-house cinema in the college district.

      There are two kinds of people. Film lovers that sip fine wine and have intellectually stimulating discussions about the film. The others are those that eat popcorn and watch movies.

      There are far more kinds of movie goers than are dreamt of in your philosophy. In fact, those that sip fine wine while discussing a film are usually not lovers of film, but lovers of hearing themselves talk, and their discussions are often not intellectually stimulating, but are instead regurgitated xerography spewed about every film they see. "Mmm, yes, shallow and pedantic" -Peter Griffin.

    9. Re:Popcorn Movies by keithrc · · Score: 1

      I'm really hungry now for some reason.

  25. Proper Expectations by prgrmr · · Score: 1

    The key to enjoying any movie is correct expectations. If you, like CmdrTaco, cannot help but to compare this with Firefly/Serenity, you will be disappointed. It's not a space western, it's a Close Encounter, and quite honestly, has more in common with that movie than any western. It uses the usual suspects of western stereotypes in order to keep the backstories to a minimum, and does it as effectively as any other movie has. Ultimately it's an action movie, and the action delivers a 6 or 7 out of 10, which is the only real complaint.

    1. Re:Proper Expectations by hguorbray · · Score: 1

      Trigun is the best Space Western I ever saw next to Bebop, although Vash's character is all over the map with the anime practice of breaking character model when the character does a double take or cries or laughs....much as Fullmetal Alchemist does. When you dig into the Trigun story it is pretty deep, but some western audiences get confused when a character is too many contradictory things -zany, brave, lecherous, despairing for instance. PEACE AND LOVE!

      Meryl Strife and Milly rock! Also, Outlaw Star was pretty good.

      I'm just sayin'

  26. Sequel? by rishistar · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So when is Cowboys vs Predators coming out?

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    1. Re:Sequel? by martas · · Score: 1

      DO WANT! Though, I lament the way the Predators idea has been treated. Since the first movie, we've pretty much just seen a sequence of B movies. It's sad. I think something really cool could've come of it, if someone had taken it more seriously. Especially the AvP idea...

    2. Re:Sequel? by dkf · · Score: 1

      So when is Cowboys vs Predators coming out?

      Not cowboys. Pirates.

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  27. Alien vs Aliens Already Done by manlygeek · · Score: 1

    It's called Aliens vs Predators.

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  28. Totally Agree by ad1217 · · Score: 1

    I just saw this last night... it has some interesting problems... like how did the girl even get there? all together not great... and there was a lot of advertising for it, which raises our expectations...

    1. Re:Totally Agree by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      > like how did the girl even get there?

      Oh c'mon, I think we are imaginative enough to be able to hypothesize another vehicle without actually seeing it. Must we be held by the hand all the way through the story?

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      Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
    2. Re:Totally Agree by plover · · Score: 1

      Funny, but heavy advertising is generally a good indicator of a lame movie. To me it says that the studio has no confidence in their product. And they get that early on when the first cuts are seen, and the general reaction is "meh."

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      John
  29. Is it worth $20 and 2 hrs? by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1

    + babysitter? Sounds like, "no".

    I wish that Hollywood would understand that making money of movies is not a god-given right, that folks won't go to movies just cause they're there.

    I saw an interview with Favreau, where he said something like this movie "gave him a chance to experiment blah blah". Tip: movies that want to be commercially successful should not be seen as a director's playground of "visuals" etc. They should tell a story that the audience will be interested in.

    If Favreau wants to experiment, he should do it on the indie circuit with $5M budgets. Or accept that his $100M experiments only demonstrates that doing something for his own enjoyment are not what others will enjoy as well.

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    1. Re:Is it worth $20 and 2 hrs? by jackbird · · Score: 1

      Of course, the "experimentation" with degraded footage in the opening credits of Se7en, with color grading in Three Kings, with bullet time in The Matrix all had a huge impact on film grammar and influenced the look of many movies that followed.

      Also, is a director's price for "success" (being tapped to direct a 100M+ studio action flick) that they shouldn't try anything new, different, or artistically fulfilling? Sounds like a recipe for disaster.

  30. Samuel L. Jackson VS Aliens by tekrat · · Score: 1

    "I am sick of these Muth-f'ing aliens on this Mutha-f'ing planet!" -- I mean come on, Cowboys and aliens is this years "Snakes on a Plane" - the title is the movie and the movie is the title.

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    If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
  31. It's either this or Smurfs by Virtucon · · Score: 1

    Frankly, I'm done with these genre flicks of late. I'm also tired of the comic book crap. Spiderman was good, Spiderman 2, not so much etc. The Hulk movies were just there to fill seats with CGI which, let's face it, is what writers go for these days. Come on Nick Nolte? Seriously?

    To do a movie nowadays it seems you have to pick from one of the subjects: Toys, Saturday Morning Cartoons, Comic Books and "artsy." Yes with 8 writers it was bad, but the OG "Casino Royale" had what, 5 directors and I still laugh every time I see it. It's especially funny when you remember it uses the same Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass music throughout.

    Come on, Woody Allen as a villain? Classic.

    When I go to a movie I want to be entertained, otherwise I can spend my $20 bucks on a lap dance.

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  32. Alien vs Alien by mknewman · · Score: 1

    Wasn't Predator vs Alien enough to satisfy the Alien vs Alien wish? If an enemy of your enemy is your friend then if two enemies are fighting doesn't that make it a win/win situation?

    1. Re:Alien vs Alien by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If an enemy of your enemy is your friend then if two enemies are fighting doesn't that make it a win/win situation?

      No... because who wants their friends to fight?

  33. And her name is...? by Theaetetus · · Score: 2, Insightful

    And Iron Man Director Jon Favreau has blown a pretty penny trying to make the whole thing work, getting the sexiest woman alive from Maxim a few years back, as well as a James Bond and a Han Solo to convince you to come to the theater and watch 6-shooters take on the little green men.

    Huh... Sexy woman, Bond, and Solo? Perhaps we'll get the names of these three shortly...

    The plot: Daniel Craig is a cowboy who wakes up with amnesia and a strange metal wrist band. He runs afoul of a punk kid with a rich daddy (Ford) in a town where blinking lights in the sky show up and lasso people away at night. So Craig and Ford and a ragtag assortment of town folk go looking for their kin, learning about the aliens, and growing beyond their cheesy racism with the local indians, and shooting pistols at alien space ships.

    Well, that's two. What about her name?
    She's the lead actress, the love interest, and, in your words, the "sexiest woman alive"? Come on, Taco... Surely she has a name, or were you too busy spanking it to her tits to bother looking it up? She even shares top billing on the goddamn poster.

    Frankly, Olivia Wilde deserves better than this shiat review.

    1. Re:And her name is...? by Faw · · Score: 1

      She's the lead actress, the love interest, and, in your words, the "sexiest woman alive"? Come on, Taco... Surely she has a name, or were you too busy spanking it to her tits to bother looking it up? She even shares top billing on the goddamn poster.

      Frankly, Olivia Wilde deserves better than this shiat review.

      Eh, what tits? She has a pretty face but she has the body of a 13 year old boy.

    2. Re:And her name is...? by Attila+Dimedici · · Score: 1

      She's the lead actress, the love interest, and, in your words, the "sexiest woman alive"? Come on, Taco... Surely she has a name, or were you too busy spanking it to her tits to bother looking it up? She even shares top billing on the goddamn poster.

      Frankly, Olivia Wilde deserves better than this shiat review.

      Eh, what tits? She has a pretty face but she has the body of a 13 year old boy.

      Which perhaps explains Taco's interest.

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    3. Re:And her name is...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We deserved a better performance from her then.

    4. Re:And her name is...? by Bitmanhome · · Score: 1

      Frankly, Olivia Wilde deserves better than this shiat review.

      No, she really doesn't. Her character was completely useless to the movie, and only relevant to the plot at the very end. Her presence on screen added nothing to her character or any of the others.

      And it doesn't speak well for her as an actress if this is what she she chooses to appear in. It should have been obvious that the script was weak, so either she has poor judgement, or this is the only work she can get.

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      Not that this wasn't entirely predictable.
    5. Re:And her name is...? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Frankly, Olivia Wilde deserves better than this shiat review.

      Dude, give it up! Olivia Wilde doesn't read /. and even if she did, she's not going to fall for you because you nerdraged over a movie review to defend her honor.

  34. Unsurpsingly derivative... by MaWeiTao · · Score: 1

    Every time I read a good sci-fi novel I think to myself, "why is Hollywood incapable, at least nowadays, of making a movie even half this good?"

    These movies offer nothing but hackneyed concepts, idiotic premises and gaping plot holes. And a significant part of the problem is that these movies all need to be turned into blockbusters. That means that any sci-fi movie is turned into an action movie with epic undertones. Hollywood lacks both creativity and subtlety and Cowboys & Aliens is a perfect example of this.

    They could have taken the concept and turned it into something truly wacky, embracing the whole absurdity of the idea. Or they could have gone in the other direction and done something intimate and character driven; I'm reminded of a few episodes of Star Trek which fall under a similar premise. Instead they went for the mundane. They took the standard for a sci-fi action movie and injected the cowboy theme into it. But then, it shouldn't really be a surprise to anyone that Hollywood is not much more than a movie factory.

    1. Re:Unsurpsingly derivative... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For some good sci-fi alternative, take a look at the French film "Dante 01", was released fairly recently. Certainly a notch or two up from what the Hollywood Recruitacons are churning out.

  35. Alien vs. Aliens? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Much better: E.T. vs. Aliens

    Imagine the poor E.T. being rescued by his space friends, only to watch them ripped in an awesome kitchen scene...

  36. Ouch by glwtta · · Score: 1

    But this was better than Transformers 3 and Green Lantern.

    That's just harsh.

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  37. No review needed by vawwyakr · · Score: 1

    The title pretty much screamed "Don't see me I'm shit". I love sci-fi and don't mind the western but how could someone thing this would be good movie? I suppose if explosions and gunfire are all that is needed to make a good film for you then it might work but otherwise it just doesn't make any sense to see this before it's on streaming from netflix.

  38. Modern day Arizona documentary by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When I saw the title I thought it was about that sheriff in Arizona, Joe Arpaio

  39. They should have cast Chuck Norris by aarongadberry · · Score: 1

    Walker Texas Ranger vs. Aliens

  40. Be brain dead too long and your IQ drops by bussdriver · · Score: 1

    Not using your brain probably lowers your IQ or at least makes thinking seem like more work. People have way too much time to turn off their brain; watching TV turns off more of their brains than sleeping does! Given how much stupid shit goes on these days people need to wake up and START thinking not take a break (a break which they've not earned.)

    Our lives have become like our food-- cheap junk we buy to falsely fill needs leaving us unfulfilled... so we consume endlessly as long as we go down the wrong path. Many people don't know the difference between wants and needs and fewer understand the difference between fact and opinion than before. We are not just getting FAT from this new cultural pattern but its also harming all other aspects of life (as we become fat headed too.)

  41. Saw this yesterday by Nitewing98 · · Score: 1

    I liked the film, honestly. I took my dad, who likes westerns, and he enjoyed it also. Granted, the mcguffin (aliens want our gold!) was stupid, but otherwise the film's action held up. I liked that Harrison Ford's character was given some depth instead of him being the town asshole through the whole movie. Daniel Craig's character was also more complex than needed for an action film, which was nice.

    Someone had told me this was based on a graphic novel. Is that not the case? Judging from the complaints about the "8 writers" I guess not. I had attributed the poor mcguffin to the source material.

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    Nitewing '98

    Everything works...in theory.

  42. which plot? just wondering by k6mfw · · Score: 1

    1. THE UNION PACIFIC STORY
    2. THE RANCH STORY
    3. THE EMPIRE STORY
    4. THE REVENGE STORY
    5. CUSTER'S LAST STAND
    6. THE OUTLAW STORY
    7. THE MARSHAL STORY

    from another post I had of 1958 TV guide article, "Seven Ways to Plot a Western"

    I haven't seen the movie, not planning to (I just don't go to movies anymore). Sounds interesting however (an 8th plot? maybe that's why they needed eight writers?)

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    1. Re:which plot? just wondering by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Sounds like it's pretty much the Ranch Story with aliens instead of the evil rancher.

  43. wish list by PopeRatzo · · Score: 1

    But hey, next summer Pirates & Aliens? Ninjas & Aliens?

    I want to see Sex & the City & Aliens with the aliens winning.

    Though Sarah Jessica Parker would have to wear some sort of badge or special t-shirt so she can be distinguished from the aliens.

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  44. Attack the Block by hansamurai · · Score: 1

    Where's the Attack the Block review? Sounds like that is the real alien genre mashup winner.

  45. Alien vs. Alien has been done by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This one is pretty well worn too.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alien_vs._Predator

    There are a couple of interesting mashups possible based on contemporary films though:
    Batman v. Aliens
    Smurfs v. aliens
    Aliens With Benefits

  46. Paul Allen, Really? by mj1856 · · Score: 1

    I swear when I read this, I though it said Allen and Aliens... Damn font...

  47. World War II Forces vs. Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    imagine that in middle of the World War II, Alien Forces invade the Earth, and you see USA Shermans, Rusian Tigers and German Panthers fighting side to side to this, or the Yamato and the Yorktown in a desesperate battle against Aliens in the Pacific Sea.

    well Harry Turtledove write a great fiction history series about this, (World War, and their sequel, Colonization).

  48. High Plains Invaders by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    SciFi did an excellent riff on this theme already: High Plains Invaders (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1388432/). It even had James Marsters! So if this is a bigger-budget version of that I'll be just as happy.

  49. Re:Come on.... AvPvT by nevermore94 · · Score: 1

    Now that sounds like the next big crossover movie. AvPvT. I can almost imagine the plot now. The Predators come back to Earth to seed a few more Aliens to hunt like the last AvP movies, but this time they find that Skynet has taken over and they fight for their lives with the Terminators, but in the end they lose leaving their ship behind. Then, in the sequel to this movie (the first big summer block buster with no actual human dialogue), Skynet incorporates the Predator tech sending a ship full of souped up Terminators with cloaking abilities back to the Predator home world to take it over. They will, of course, lose, because they lack the Predators fighting spirit. Then, the Predators will return one last time and nuke Earth from orbit. It is the only way to be sure.

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  50. aliens vs aliens by jafac · · Score: 1

    done been did that already; Aliens vs Predator.

    How about some more creative ideas for match ups?

    I wanna see Terminator versus Ninjas. (who can hunt down and kill John Conner faster?)

    Oh wait, that was The Last Starfighter. Or maybe Empire Strikes Back.

    Okay, what about Time Lord versus Terminator? Who can travel back in time 100 years faster?

    Epic Serial Killer (Hannibal Lechter) versus Captain Jack Sparrow? Simple Debauchery of a female FBI agent?

    Cowboy Bebop versus SG-1? (who can hunt down and kill John Conner - who is really just some dude infected with an alien mind-control parasite?)

    Bender versus Cylons? Philosophy contest.

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    1. Re:aliens vs aliens by Culture20 · · Score: 1

      Bender versus Cylons? Philosophy contest.

      "Bite. My. Shiny. Metal. Ass."
      "By your command."

  51. Smurfs vs. Aliens by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Subject says it all.

  52. So Where Is The Bruce Boxleitner Thread ?... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'm about to go see this movie in a few minutes in spite of some of the comments I've read so far, based mostly upon my love of Olivia Wilder, and some respect for Harrison Ford in spite of the last Indiana Jones flick... I'm wondering where the comments I expected from the ( usually ) painfully knowledgeable crowd are about how this movie is ripping off Bruce Boxleitner's IP from the Frontier Earth books he created decades ago based on the subject of cowboys and aliens ? I'm sure with all the fans around here I can't be the only Babylon 5 fan who read the ( incomplete ) series... I'll look thru the remaining comments later to see who else sees this as derivative, and to give my nickel's worth review.

  53. Cavemen Vs. Aliens! by Paul1969 · · Score: 1

    Because we need, you know... *more* of a gap between us lowly humans and those creepy dudes with FTL drives and laser cannon and all. So we can overcome them with just our brains and some heavy rocks and really pointy sticks!

    1. Re:Cavemen Vs. Aliens! by kikito · · Score: 1

      Already done.

      http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0185183/

      It won seven Razzies in 2001.

  54. Cowboy Bebop =/!= cowboy genre? by DryGrian · · Score: 1

    The sci-fi western is tough sod to trod. The winners (Firefly, Cowboy Bebop) have typically placed Cowboys into Outter Space, and not Aliens into the Old West.

    and a foreign cartoon that only has cowboys in the name when talking about an unrelated movie.

    Calling Cowboy Bebop a 'sci-fi western' is a bit of a stretch. I mean, they are bounty hunters, which is an Old West-y concept, and they call themselves cowboys, but that's about as far as the similarities go. It's hard to actually define which genre Bebop belongs to, it's sort of a mishmash of dystopian-scifi-anime-crime drama-adventure saga. Not much room for 'western' in there.

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  55. *TOO* old by kikito · · Score: 1

    "I thought Harrison Ford to once again proves that he is just to old for this sort of work"

    TOO old.

    Thanks.