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TSA Doing Random Truck Searches On Tennessee Highway
OverTheGeicoE writes "TSA is expanding its presence to the American road system. As part of its Visible Intermodal Prevention and Response (VIPR) program, TSA agents are now working at 5 weigh stations and two bus stations in Tennessee. They are randomly checking trucks with 'drug and bomb sniffing dogs', and encouraging truck drivers to join their First Observer Highway Security Program and report anything suspicious that they see to authorities. VIPR is allegedly not a response to any particular threat."
though nothing happened in the last decade and all the ball groping that happened, they are still disturbing and irritating people.
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You can't handle the truth.
Freedom to travel not something we have anymore?
Should I be carrying my papers?
At what point do we tell these assholes to fuck off? This is one government department that needs to be shutdown.
All the inconvenience of airport travel, coming soon to a town near you. Oh they will start with the truckers but whoever said the slippery slope is not real: watch. Dear God America, you tell the world about how you are the champion of democracy and freedom and then you go an pull shit like this. And you wonder why no one believes you?
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I'm not quite sure how that meets their mission:
The Transportation Security Administration protects the Nation’s transportation systems to ensure freedom of movement for people and commerce.
Then again, I'm not sure how much of what they do furthers their mission. It would seem that most of the things they do actually restrict freedom of movement.
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"Yes, I witnessed some people dressed in TSA uniforms at a weigh station, and I suspect they may be impostors. Could you send some agents over to check the situation?"
Just remember, when they ask for your papers - don't run, otherwise they will shoot you in the back.
Hey, they couldn't find terrorists on airplanes, they seem perfectly competent to not find terrorists on the roads too!
---jstlook ---For that is the way of Elves, for they say both yes AND no, and mean every word of it. --- J.R.R.T.
VIPR is allegedly not a response to any particular threat
The threat is very clear - budget cuts. With Osama gone, Al Qaeda a thin shadow of its former self (which was really never much to begin with) and no significant acts of terrorism for the last 10 years, the TSA and the DHS are in jeopardy of being pared back to a size much more appropriate to the risk -- i.e. practically nothing.
If they don't remind us to be scared, who will?
When information is power, privacy is freedom.
If the "occupy wall st" people added dissolution of the TSA to their agenda, I might join them at this point...
This is the thin leading wedge of tyranny. Everyone involved in the decision making process of this program, starting with Mr. Bill Gibbons, should be fired and banned from Government employment for life, as they have shown themselves as being clearly unworthy of the public trust.
If it wasn't blatantly obvious that terrorism was being used as a scapegoat by the TSA for funding before, this definitely helps. There's no way this has anything to do with terrorism. Tennessee? That's where most drugs go through, coming from Mexico to pretty much anywhere in the Northeast U.S. Terrorists? Nary a one. Not to mention this is the perfect state to violate 4th amendment rights in, what with all the idiots.
We, the taxpaying middle class, pay for this.. We pay to randomly search vehicles for hopes of finding a terrorist.. I'd rather pay government agents to search for gold nuggets.
that he didn't stand up when they were drinking to Stalin's health." Citizens being urged to report "anything suspicious," leaves a good taste in your mouth, doesn't it?
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My father drove trucks here for years through Tennessee, and I don't even need to ask him whether he thinks this is a ridiculous waste of time and taxpayer dollars. Every minute they waste off the road is money from their pockets. Especially when in many cases you leave the truck running during all of this bullshit in order to pull it to the various road markers for different pointless checks.
They will likely never find a single truck carrying anything of federal importance. All they'll do is use it for catching things which the THP or other federal agencies should already be handling, like catching drugs, and add one more level of red tape to the honest hard-working people.
There are only so many TSA people you can fit inside an airport.
Let's hire MORE and put them to work ... checking TRUCKS! And buses, yeah! Because that's where the terrorists will strike next.
In the year 2035, 51% of the population will be employed by the DHS/TSA to watch/search the other 49%.
"Where is a terrorist more apt to be found? Not these days on an airplane more likely on the interstate," said Tennessee Department of Safety & Homeland Security Commissioner Bill Gibbons.
I wonder, has the TSA ever found a real terrorist? Except from their employees, that is. :)
They won't find bombs, but they may find drugs. IIRC, it wasn't the original purpose of the TSA to be another DEA. A few good busts and you may be stuck with them, violating more liberties every day, all in the name of fighting "terrorism".
Therefore, by the (faulty) logic you're using, you're just a cow with a keyboard - osu-neko (2604)
Uncontrolled search and seizure is one of the first and most effective weapons in the arsenal of every arbitrary government. Among deprivations of rights, none is so effective in cowing a population, crushing the spirit of the individual and putting terror in every heart.
Justice Robert Jackson, chief U.S. prosecutor at the Nuremberg Trials
...I mean, who hasn't wanted to see the naked silhouette of a beltless, shoeless truck driver?
To the USSA!
This is for your protection.
Undetectable Steganography? Yep, there's an app fo
Wrong, Comrade! You are so wrong! They are pro-actively protecting us from the imminent threats of massive total destruction by terrorists from Eurasia and Eastasia!
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Ohh, ooh,Count me in! ...First, I wanna report that mathematically, the amount of effort and funding involved in countering domestic terrorism is alarmingly disproportionate to the actual threat. I have reason to believe the Bureaucracy has been infiltrated by econo-terrorists, and paranoid authoritarians. The fact that one has an enormously greater chance of being fatally stricken by a substandard driver than a bomb-harboring truck suggests that someone in the TSA is at least hostile to math - if not common sense. Second, I wish to report that unreasonable punishments for victimless/consensual crimes are suspiciously causing more harm than mitigation; I think this must be investigated. I also wish to make a confession: I think public safety is more important than awarding private contractors and private prisons, and that liberties should not be used as currency to fund a police state. I hope that helps, and please don't mess with my grandma's diaper; she's really not a terrorist, I swear.
Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made. - Otto von Bismarck
and I was told I just shouldn't fly on airplanes.
Then they came for the truck drivers in Tennessee...
and I was told I just shouldn't drive trucks in Tennessee.
Then...
As soon as "9/11 happened" I wrote to my congress critter and asked them _NOT_ to consider or pass any legislation in response to the attack.
I got a letter back "assuring" me that congress was working as hard and as fast as possible to do _exactly_ what I begged them not to do.
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Next time you decided to deport all your religious wackos, please do not send them all to one place. It weakens the gene pool. If you'd sent us some of those criminals you sent down under to dilute the wacjobbery things would have turned out better.
Signed, the descendants of your bad choices, the U.S.A.
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It'd be a real shame if someone set off a truckload of marijuana in a crowded rest stop...think of the children!
They just know they're out there! Surely someone has seen one? Checked in the back? Under the axles, sometimes they latch on, start chewing on the power lines.
Aw, c'mon, man, give me a break, I have to catch three more terrorists this month or I don't make my rent. Look,just point at some brown-lookin' trucker you don't like, I'll take care of him for you, no questions asked, no presumption of innocence or nuthin'. C'mon, guy, I don't even get dental!
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First Observer Highway Security Program an report anything suspicious that they see to authorities.
Mr. Welles, is that you? This whole thing was President Clark's idea wasn't it?
Are participants required to wear black armbands?
This will probay get me on the watch list but in my opinion President Clark is nothing but a Shadow puppet.
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Does jack squat any more. I watch as these Occupy people sit around and sing songs, people up at the capital sing slogans, and they expect things are going to change.
Not gonna happen. If you had the ability to print an infinite amount of money and give it to your friends and yourself, would you give up that sort of power and influence?
You certainly would! Right before you nuke every major city on the globe!
So this whole crapola thing with the TSA isn't going to go away without a real nasty revolution.
No way are the people who have that power going to step aside. They will put a terrorist boogey man in every place they can. If they can't they will nuke a city, and tell you if you don't give us complete control, another "terrorist" will nuke another city.
This is way out of control of the voting booth now.
I would seriously consider having a plan in place to leave the country sooner than later.
Because, if history is any guide, the next thing TSA will be doing is preventing any people from leaving the country, while of course if you are illegal, fine no problem.
There is a definite agenda here, and it is has nothing to do with terrorists that much is for sure.
-Hack.
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Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
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Yeah! Screw those damned Conservatives Obama, Biden, Reid, Napolitano, and Holder!
Fail.
It's *Progressives* in BOTH major political parties. The name "Progressive" itself should be a clue. "Progressives" are those that believe that society & government should progress PAST the limits set by the Constitution.
Isn't that what's happening here, and has been happening since this second* rise of Progressivism/Liberalism?
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*Liberalism and Progressivism are interchangeable terms. Liberalism catastrophically failed and was soundly discredited in the 1920s. Liberals then re-branded themselves as "Progressives" and have once again regained political power, depending on the Public's short memory to enable them to regain credibility and public mind-share.
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This is at weigh stations.
Right now it is. Last week, it wasn't. Next week, who knows. We already get stopped for border searches nowhere near the border, and the supreme court continues to abrogate its responsibility to uphold our rights. This is a classic textbook example of the slippery slope.
So keeping opiates on the black market controlled by criminal organization with possible terrorist ties is your solution? Keep thinking, you aren't quite there yet. It isn't about this drug or that drug being worse, it is about a completely uncontrolled, unregulated market that is too good for bad guys to pass up as a money maker. Take away those conditions and the problem will take care of itself.
It is simple economics: supply and demand. If there is a demand someone will supply that demand. No morals or laws can change that basic principle.
"But this one goes to 11!"
Last I checked, Tennessee was further than 100 miles from the national border.
Or are they including foreign embassies and Native American territories in the US as right-to-search borders now? And of the former, I don't just mean static buildings but also ambassadorial mobile vehicles. Want to search without a warrant? Invite a foreign ambassador to visit a nearby county.
Oh, say does that Star-Spangled Banner entwine / The myrtle of Venus with Bacchus's vine?
encouraging truck drivers to join their First Observer Highway Security Program an report anything suspicious that they see to authorities.
"Yes, sir, I see a bunch of people with no business digging around in the back of sealed containers en route to their destinations... digging around in sealed containers en route to their destinations."
Seriously, though, if I were contemplating placing explosives, drugs, or other contraband into a commercial vehicle, I would consider bribing a TSA agent to do the placing for me. There are so many of them, now, that it seems absurd to think there won't be at least one thinking they're underpaid and/or overworked... so many body cavities, so little time...
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If tests are any indication they probably fail to stop more than that.
I have a magic rock that protects me from tigers. I know this because I strip-search everyone I meet and so far I've found 3 people who carried tiger's teeth as good-luck charms. In the meantime, not a single tiger attack. It's obviously working.
And please don't start with the "a gun going off on a plane oh no EVERYBODY WOULD DIE" thing. It's not true.
What really stopped terrorists from attacking airplanes is the same thing that stopped them in Pennsylvania: the passengers. That and some sensible moves like reinforcing cockpit doors and realizing that terrorists might actually want to kill everyone rather than just get some ransom money and go away.
Ha! I'm in. Here in Florida though, pedestrian traffic is illegal on the interstate. Kind of like a prison, no? You can drive your hummer anywhere you fancy, but if you dare walk, you're a criminal.
Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made. - Otto von Bismarck
Drving, despite what the DMV and the police would have you believe, is a right well-established by both law and court decision. Yes, the police are lying to you as they overreach their authority, shocking I know.
Cites follow, the reasoning is roughly this. A citizen cannot participate in modern society without the use of an automobile. Public transportation only covers a minor portion of the geography of the US. Bicycles and walking cannot cover the routine distances involved in modern life. On the other hand, driving is a dangerous activity with significant hazards to the public at large, thus the right to "Life," balances against the right to "Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness."
Personally, I hope the TSA does expand to random traffic stops. I hope they start impementing strip searches for walking down the sidewalk. I want them to set up shop at the OWS rally near you. The faster they can provoke a full-out general revolt against their nonsense, the happier I'll be.
Here are the court decisions I promised you:
"The use of the highways for the purpose of travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but a common and fundamental Right of which the public and the individual cannot be rightfully deprived." [emphasis added] Chicago Motor Coach vs. Chicago, 169 NE 22; Ligare vs. Chicago, 28 NE 934; Boon vs. Clark, 214 SSW 607; 25 Am.Jur. (1st) Highways Sect.163.
""Even the legislature has no power to deny to a citizen the right to travel upon the highway and transport his property in the ordinary course of his business or pleasure, though this right may be regulated in accordance with the public interest and convenience." Chicago Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 22. "
"Complete freedom of the highways is so old and well established a blessing that we have forgotten the days of the Robber Barons and toll roads, and yet, under an act like this, arbitrarily administered, the highways may be completely monopolized, if, through lack of interest, the people submit, then they may look to see the most sacred of their liberties taken from them one by one, by more or less rapid encroachment." Robertson vs. Department of Public Works, 180 Wash 133, 147.
"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness." Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 179.
"Personal liberty largely consists of the Right of locomotion -- to go where and when one pleases -- only so far restrained as the Rights of others may make it necessary for the welfare of all other citizens. The Right of the Citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, by horsedrawn carriage, wagon, or automobile, is not a mere privilege which may be permitted or prohibited at will, but the common Right which he has under his Right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Under this Constitutional guarantee one may, therefore, under normal conditions, travel at his inclination along the public highways or in public places, and while conducting himself in an orderly and decent manner, neither interfering with nor disturbing another's Rights, he will be protected, not only in his person, but in his safe conduct." [emphasis added] II Am.Jur. (1st) Constitutional Law, Sect.329, p.1135.
"The right to travel is a part of the liberty of which the citizen cannot be deprived without due process of law under the 5th Amendment." Kent v. Dulles, 357 US 116, 125.
"Undoubtedly the right of locomotion, the right to move from one place to another according to inclination, is an attribute of personal liberty, and the right, ordinarily, of free transit from or through the territory of any State is a right secured by the 14th amendment and by other provisions of the Constitution." Schactman v. Dulles, 96 App DC 287, 293.
"Personal liberty -- consists of the power of lo
He put his boots up on the table and made a face. "The sig," he smirked. "You can waste your life in search of the sig."
Given the current administration that created and is running this program is extremely "progressive" I fail to understand the logic of your emphasis on the word "conservative". If you would perhaps open your mind a bit you may come to understand there are principled conservatives who are appalled by these types of policies. In doing so, together we could fight back together against those who would take our rights away, regardless of which political persuasion they associate themselves with.
Could anyone think of a better way to defeat an omnipotent enemy than causing it to go Stasi on itself?
See http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/16-02/ff_stasi
As we say, Stasi "is TSA." Anagram-wise.
Soon, none other than the source itself. Apparently, even satire of such acronyms may soon be forbidden under law: http://www.prisonplanet.com/house-bill-would-criminalize-satire-of-tsa.html The terms do seem terribly vague, and protection under satire law (frxx speech) have surely been an annoyance for those who are most susceptible to it (satire). There's nothing like an iron fist to smash the mouth of intelligence.
Laws are like sausages. It's better not to see them being made. - Otto von Bismarck
Part of the problem is the common misperception that the court is the final arbiter in our country as to what our rights are. The founding fathers envisioned a much more balanced system by which all three branches of government were checks and balances against each other. Somehow, we are now at a state where the branch that wears black robes seems to have the final say on what rights we have. If all three branches of government are conspiring to steal our rights, we need to exercise our disapproval at the ballot box to restore balance by electing representatives that understand the courts operate under the consent of the governed every bit as much as the other two branches of government.
Truck search for YOU!
This sig is not paradoxical or ironic.
Don't fly. Write your representatives demanding they abolish the TSA. Do not submit to their tyranny. They are operating in an unconstitutional manner, their methods are completely ineffective against terrorism. Their methods are designed to get "law abiding citizens" to comply with their illegal searches. Civil disobedience and protests are effective.
And why are the spending hundreds of millions of dollars on "porno-scanners" that are proven ineffective for the airports, but using bomb sniffing dogs (which are much cheaper and proven effective) for VIPR? Because it's not about stopping terrorism, it's about control and compliance.
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It's because they were under their allotted budget, so, they had to spend more tax dollars in order to get the same budget next quarter.
You didn't think this was actually about making people more safe, did you?
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TSA can't get a break. They are either responding only to threats that have occurred. Which is patently wrong as terrorists won't do it again that way. And when they aren't responding to a specific threat. They are patently wrong because there is obviously no threat.
The TSA has absolutely no jurisdiction on a US highway. This is like having the Boy Scouts of America police bike paths or something.
If a TSA agent decides it will be fun to pull me over, as soon as they identify themselves as TSA I'm driving away. They can't do anything about it. Follow me home, pull a gun on me, and watch me drop your ass on my front lawn for being an invasive threat.
If the only way you can accept an assertion is by faith, then you are conceding that it can't be taken on its own merits
1. Buy railroads
2. Have your government friends make road transportation suck
3. ???
4. Profit!!!!!
It's not a worthless program. They've caught lots of drugs being trafficked, both in planes and in trucks. What, you thought it was to keep us safe from terrorists? Hahahaha...
I always object to people who call driving a right, because political discourse is confused to the point where people confuse rights with liberties.
A right is something you have the privilege to do within the bounds of constitutional law, a thing in which no other citizen can discriminate against you or prevent you from doing, nor the government where it acts as an employer, a buyer of goods, etc. A liberty is generally something the government cannot prevent you from doing, under almost any circumstances. So they're very similar, but not the same.
Driving may have been ruled a right, but it comes with high social costs and responsibilities. It's entirely fair for a legitimate government to certify and restrict drivers in some ways. Many people define driving as a "right" when their argument really defines a liberty, something to which they have absolute privilege and over which they perceive any government oversight as some illegitimate, collectivist intrusion. That always seems to me like social-Darwinist propaganda, the notion that a tool almost entirely dependent on trillions of dollars in public infrastructure and able to kill people at any moment should be an unrestricted, guaranteed 'right'.
I still believe that driving is a privilege in the sense that it can be taken away in response to repeatedly shirking your share of the social costs or endangering other people. It is, if you will, both a right and a privilege. If police or courts are overstepping their bounds in pushing some ludicrous, alternate definition of driving as exclusively a privilege which you enjoy at the pleasure of the state, then directly attack those policies rather than inventing a second alternate reality in which you have unrestricted access to automobiles at all times and without any social responsibility attached.
You're a fucktard for equating states' rights with racism. As if the fact that one set of laws were overturned as unconstitutional has any bearing on whether states' rights is a valid concept in its own right.
FC Closer
You are a idiot and a sheep that has been programed by your federal government in to thinking states should get back the right that were always theirs.
Tell me, how was the budget deficit doing when the states held most of these rights? Now we have layer upon layer upon layer of bureaucracy at the federal level spending to their hearts content. There is no balances anymore.
Not sure what fantasy land you are living in, but laws are laws, and a federal department isn't needed to enforce those laws. And BTW, only a idiot would think that is a department of federal government went away that we would all revert to racism in a matter of days. You think that because you have not a clue what to think other then what people tell you to think.
It needs to be the Politicalist threat. Such a scourge of human existence.
FC Closer
Only a matter of time before mandatory radiation exposure and/or hand rape. What's the next step? Body cavity searches? TSA needs to change or go away. It's absolutely unconscionable that TSA can impose ANY method of search, regardless of how obtrusive, in the name of security. Adding insult to injury, anyone who complains is immediately flagged as a terrorist sympathizer, dragged off and given the third degree with a bonus of no refund on missed flights.
Adaptations of this quote to every possible privacy or liberty issue deeply offend me.
This poem was the poignant reflection of a German theologian who was actually very humble and self-effacing in his phrasing. He supported Hitler initially but became disillusioned with the totalitarianism of the National Socialists (Nazis) somewhat quickly and spearheaded a group of German clergy who opposed the party. Most of the group caved, but he stayed the course and was finally arrested in 1937. He spent the rest of the war in concentration camps, right up until liberation day. As I understand it he hardly waited till the last moment or until everyone else was gone before he objected, and he felt more guilt about what he *did* tolerate than most other Germans ever did.
So in short, the quote concerns Nazis coming to kill you after eliminating every other scapegoat and dissenting voice in the entire nation. It's petulent, hyperbolic, and actually a rather clear invocation of Godwin's Law to immediately invoke it and pervert it for every piddling privacy violation or TSA bullshit-festival.
I understand you're making an important point about social tragedy and slippery slopes, but they're not Nazis and they're not coming to *kill* you, for God sake. If you absolutely most invoke it, at least quote the original rather than making indulgent, self-righteous parodies, and please consider saving it for more extreme situations.
Is it a contest to see how many rights we can strip away? how close we can get to killing people, before our right minds miraculously come to us?
No, they're not killing anyone. And none of us think it'll ever come to that. And nobody ever thinks it'll come to that. Even when it does finally come to that.
Well, guess what... it doesn't come to that because someone says stop before it's too late. Well, it's not too late, and I'm saying this needs to stop.
You're a fucktard for equating states' rights with racism.
Is that you Jefferson Davis? States' rights arguments and racism go together like peanut butter and jelly. 600,000 dead Americans can't be wrong.
Adaptations of this quote to every possible privacy or liberty issue deeply offend me.
This poem was the poignant reflection of a German theologian who was actually very humble and self-effacing in his phrasing.
Sir, if I had mod points I'd mod this up.
I 100% agree with you, the "first they came for" poem has been perverted to mean "anything I dont like" and is used just as much to justify an extremist philosophy. In reality it's meant to be a reflection of your own actions in the face of something you know is wrong, not as a thought terminating cliche to push an ideology.
If you absolutely most invoke it, at least quote the original rather than making indulgent, self-righteous parodies,
Calling someone a "hater" only means you can not rationally rebut their argument.
One thing is to try to justify searches at the country borders. Another is to expand that to all flights, be them national or international (and I do not agree with this policy). But now, random checks in a highway? This does nothing to improve safety of citizenships, but helps to educate new generations of Americans into getting used to these outrageous privacy invasions. You can expect to see this kind of government behavior from a dictatorship, not from a democracy. What are we transforming America into?
Ever been to MS? How about AZ? I hate to break the news to ya pal but racism, Alive and well. I even have a nice one inch scar on the back of my head from a cop that said, and I quote "Fucking niggers and God damned worthless hippes, I don't know which I hate more". Our crime? A white guy driving a black friend in the wrong state. didn't matter that the black was a Baptist minister, as far as that cop was concerned he was a worthless nigger and I was most likely a "race traitor" for association.
So I hate to burst you bubble but "states rights" was what the excuse was during the civil war, and in case you haven't noticed you can replace the word nigger for wetback and get a LOT of folks on board. It always happens during a depression, IIRC lynching went up in the 30s as well.
Hell don't believe ME friend, go to ANY Yahoo story about Mexicans or blacks and see the amount of sheer hatred. Then remember you're only getting about 1/20th the actual effect since they police their boards and remove the most obvious racist comments as quick as they can. But don't worry even with the policing they'll be plenty of hate for you to enjoy.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
"Adaptations of this quote to every possible privacy or liberty issue deeply offend me."
That's okay, because your utter inability to get off your ass and do anything about it offends me.
Start fighting for your rights, maybe your favorite little phrase wouldn't get misused so much, asshole.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
This is obviously a press release written by some TSA PR lackey.
GP is the single best and most on-topic modification of the original that I've ever seen. You, sir, can go screw yourself.
We know where leadership by an anti-intellectual "strongman" who scapegoats minorities and likes boisterous rallies goes
His name was Niemöller. I'd have more respect for you if you demanded the man get credit. Instead you didn't even say his name while you complained about someone expressing themselves in a way not approved by you.
And his words have a very clear message. "Speak up. Do something." Deep is the irony in trying to shame someone to silence for using the form and spirit of his words.
As for Godwin's Law, I do know it, but don't expect me to subscribe to all the other bullshit that goes with it, like "losing threads" or "offenses." Don't expect me to stand by while you try to use Godwin's Law as a bludgeon either.
Cop.. What citizenship are you?
Me.. My mother's maiden name is Schwartz...
Cop.. That wasn't what I asked.
Me.. do you happen to have access to a NY Yellow Pages... I need to call my uncle. Please, just open the phone book to lawyers and pick any guy named Schwartz... there's a few hundred of them, but there's still a good chance one of them is my uncle or cousin. By the way, can I please write down your name and badge number?
Cop.. Do you need a lawyer?
Me.. Well, I don't believe you had reasonable cause to impede my travel and conduct this "interview". I want to have him on the phone to make sure that I'm not having my rights abused by overzealous law enforcement.
Cop.. Have a nice day
None of what I said was true... but it really doesn't matter. There's only one thing scarier to a cop than a lawyer and that's a Jewish New York attorney. While I despise modern lawyers, they are currently our only protection against the TSA and law enforcement.
26/11 in Mumbai, terrorists let loose carnage on Mumbai streets. So a bunch of terrorists are catching onto that.
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"VIPR is allegedly not a response to any particular threat."
Except maybe the threat of cuts to their budget unless they catch a bunch of "hillbilly heroin" smugglers?
I see even classic Slashdot is now pretty much unusable on dial up anymore.
i don't know, seemed like a pretty appropriate adaptation to illustrate the point to me. it's not copyrighted, is it ?!?!?!111
Rich
A very, very old joke:
A man walks up to a woman and asks her if she would sleep with him for 25 million dollars.
She hesitates, looks him up and down and then says that yes, she probably would.
"So would you sleep with me for 25 dollars?"
"Certainly not - what sort of girl do you think I am?"
"We've already established that - now we're just haggling over terms"
A martian walks up to the president of the United States:
"Would you kill your own citizens without due process, create laws but keep secret your interpretation of them if..."
... and please consider saving it for more extreme situations.
When would be appropriate, in your opinion? When the damage is already done and there's nobody to listen? The Nazi's didn't START by gassing Jews and invading Poland, you fucking idiot. The guy wrote the poem to illustrate that evil starts small, and needs to be stopped early. Are you seriously suggesting that we wait until it's too powerful to stop, and THEN start complaining about it?
I don't think I've ever read anything so blatantly stupid.
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I mentioned nothing about the current administration.
I was talking about the United States as a whole.
Ergo, the United Conservative Fascist States of America.
Which, I hate to be the one to also tell you there's no such thing as the Easter Bunny, but we *are*.
In most (all?) other western Democracies in the World other than us (including Canada):
Our "progressives" are considered "conservatives" by the rest of the World.
Our "conservatives" are considered "fascists" by the rest of the World.
This is not a red-state/ blue-state/ republican/ democrat issue.
This is fact.
Which makes it even more funny when conservative blowhards banty about the word "socialism" to refer to anything the current administration does.
Isn't this a thing the local and/or state police should be doing?
Not the whole random search thing, but pulling over drivers that actually BREAK A FREAKING rule first? Or how about just pull every 'soccer mom' that is randomly texting and talking on her cell phone while she pilots her 20 ton assault vehicle into my passenger side door?
Vote monkeys into Congress. They are cheaper and more trustworthy.
"Progressive" used in an aggressively negative context has become the de facto sign that a person is so hypnotized by Fox News and friends that they cannot be reasoned with.
It's better to vote for what you want and not get it than to vote for what you don't want and get it.
- E. Debs
Stupid question in know but... Remember the Night Watch. They started as “observe and report” and then they were given complete control under martial law. Just like the Nazis’. Great now we have to watch out for the SS on wheels. 18 wheels!!!
TSA: We've all known Tennessee is a popular site for interstate terrorism forsome time now so we decided that would be the first place to deploy the VIPR system. ME: WTF are you that stupid. Don't you know there is a drug/border war going on in Arizona (and other states but Arizona has got it bad). One of the cops in that National Geo show (Border Wars) pretty much said if they (smugglers, drug runners etc) get to the highway they are pretty much gone. Do ya think MAYBE this VIPR program might actually help down there. Someone needs to smack some sense into the head of the TSA.
"We are just a war away from Amerikastan. When god vs god the undoing of man." Dave Mustaine
For a start you can refuse to answer their questions. They cannot take that as probable cause for anything, if they did then it's lawsuit time :)
Yeah! Screw those damned Conservatives Obama, Biden, Reid, Napolitano, and Holder!
For the record, many self-described Progressives have precisely that sentiment. When you compare what Obama, Biden, Reid, Napolitano, and Holder are doing with what the American public reports wanting in numerous polls, you'll find that they're much more conservative than the public.
I am officially gone from
us from terrorist abroad? LOL, silly rabbit. Its to protect them against us. FWIW, for the first time in my life, I was screened twice in a US airport on a domestic flight. Once at the uber gate control part and a second time right as I boarded the flight. I'm a middle aged white professional. How many airplanes have been tampered with by sober white guys?
This was a response to a particular threat. The threat of citizens being free and wresting control back from the plutarchy.
The purpose of the TSA is to condition the citizens to a police state.
Question everything
Not a response to any particular threat? Then why the fuck are you doing it?! Americans take their rights for granted so much that they don't even realize when they are losing them.
"What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
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Way to ignore the second half of my comment, troll.
FC Closer
Fear of the government spying?
Just bought a new quantum computer, but I'm uncertain how it works.
Afghanistan on 7 October, just 26 days later.
Policies can obviously implemented quickly when it comes to revenge.
Just bought a new quantum computer, but I'm uncertain how it works.
When did it become civil discourse to respond to someone's comment with "you fucking idiot"?
Jesus Christ, every time I express a strong dissenting opinion on slashdot I get multiple replies with telling me to fuck myself, calling me an asshole, calling me an idiot.
Can't you people disagree with my disagreement and leave it at that? Do you have to throw out a non-stop stream of epithets along the way? Am I really not deserving of respect or life itself simply because I disagree with you?
You could have just stuck with the first sentence. There's no need to go spouting curses just because you disagree with me. It's absolutely astonishing and inexcusable how many times I'm told to fuck myself when I dare express a contrary and unpopular opinion on this so-called forum.
i wonder how the dogs stand the smell of the TSA agents?
You're right, I shouldn't have called you a fucking idiot, and for that I apologise.
Your opinion is wrong. You need to change it. That poem is obviously about the need to fight evil at the beginning instead of waiting for it to be Too Big To Fail. This was the right time to quote that poem. If you missed that, you're missing some important cognitive skills which will help you through life.
This isn't something on which you can have opinion; It is fact. That is the meaning of the poem, and it is not open to interpretation.
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