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Ask Slashdot: Good Metrics For a Small IT Team?

First time accepted submitter shibbyj writes "I'm a member of a small 3 person IT team for a medium sized business (approximately 300-350 employees) that has multiple locations internationally. I have been tasked with logging our performance using the statistics from our ticket management system. I've also been tasked with comparing these stats and determining if we are performing above or below what is considered optimal. I'm wondering what people opinions are on what good metrics should be in regards to mttr mtbf etc. I have had trouble finding information on this."

315 comments

  1. Hahaha by mewsenews · · Score: 5, Insightful

    One of you is getting fired

    1. Re:Hahaha by ITConsultant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As a professional IT consultant, I would concur with the parent statement.

      Also, the title is a bit redundant: all IT teams are small.

    2. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Yes, this.

      Management wants to eliminate someone and wants to do so in an "objective" way to hide the fact that they're firing someone while probably giving the CEO a fat Christmas bonus. You're tasked with figuring out which of the three of you gets fired and how you can cloak this in enough "objectivity" that no one can object to it. Your best bet is to make this shit up. Figure out who the weakest link besides yourself is, or who you like the least, and generate a system of metrics that's biased towards eliminating that person. Use lots of acronyms and jargon. Also, make sure no one at work reads Slashdot.

      totally irrelevant CAPTCHA: forgive

    3. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If there were any justice in the world firings would start at the top. Fuck management and their big salaries. What the fuck are they doing that they have to be paid so much? What value do they bring to a company? They're too happy to fire you to make more money for themselves (the fact that most people are one paycheck away from financial ruin doesn't seem to bother them) but do they ever get fired even if they run the company into the ground? Fuck no. I'd love nothing more than to see some of the bosses I've had in the past be out there pimping their own wives and daughters to make enough to cover the mortgage that month. Hell, they should be taking loads bareback from guys with AIDS. They deserve it.

    4. Re:Hahaha by Jeremiah+Cornelius · · Score: 5, Funny

      The very core of your writing while sounding reasonable initially, did not sit perfectly with me after some time. Somewhere throughout the paragraphs you actually were able to make me a believer but just for a very short while. I however have got a problem with your leaps in logic and one would do nicely to fill in all those gaps. If you can accomplish that, I will surely end up being fascinated.

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    5. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > One of you is getting fired

      This should be modded Insightful

    6. Re:Hahaha by SpacePunk · · Score: 1

      I was coming in here to say that. LOL

    7. Re:Hahaha by JoeMerchant · · Score: 5, Insightful

      One of you is getting fired

      On a three person team, metrics are irrelevant - personality and politics are 100% more important than technical skill.

      If you've got 15-20 people and it's time for a 10% downsizing, or (less realistically), performance based bonus or advancement, then metrics start to be something worth looking at.

      When I had to choose between 2, my boss asked me who was my choice, I told him, he agreed, I started to tell him why, he stopped me and said: "it doesn't matter why, I'm just glad that we came up with the same answer."

    8. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And your boss is lazy.

    9. Re:Hahaha by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 1

      Top-poster advice giver whore here, again.

      Aggregate a list of companywide credentials, exploits, proprietary(especially humiliating) information, and publicly release it(don't sell it, that's tacky - and put it up with adequately-protected domains in non-American-siezable countries publicly documenting and e-mailing your former employer's customers the damning information) for the "LOLs"(a slang term meaning 'laughter at another's expense').

      Make them pay.

    10. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The very core of your writing while sounding reasonable initially, did not sit perfectly with me after some time. Somewhere throughout the paragraphs you actually were able to make me a believer but just for a very short while. I however have got a problem with your leaps in logic and one would do nicely to fill in all those gaps. If you can accomplish that, I will surely end up being fascinated.

      Which part sounded "reasonable" to you? Was it the part about bosses being forced to "pimp their own wives and daughters", or the part about bosses being forced to get some "bareback from guys with AIDS."?

      BTW, I'm not the Anonymous Coward from the post in question. I'm a totally different Anonymous Coward.

    11. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'll take "pimp their own wives and daughters" for 800, Alex.

    12. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Yet another AC here.

      If there were any justice in the world firings would start at the top. Fuck management and their big salaries. What the fuck are they doing that they have to be paid so much? What value do they bring to a company? They're too happy to fire you to make more money for themselves (the fact that most people are one paycheck away from financial ruin doesn't seem to bother them) but do they ever get fired even if they run the company into the ground? Fuck no. I'd love nothing more than to see some of the bosses I've had in the past be out there doing actual work.

      Is this better?

    13. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Concur with the "someone is getting fired". 3 people supporting 300+ people. That's overtaxed, even school teachers only have to deal with 30 potential-assholes for 8 hours a day and have to put in unpaid overtime because you can't just leave things when the shit hits the fan 10 minutes from clocking out.

      As for metrics, serious or otherwise, 3 person team, you should already know who the weakest link is (hint, -you- if you don't come up with a solution.) The boss always asks the least intimidating person, therefor the boss thinks you're the one who could find a reason to fire one of other two people.

      Personally I'd tell the boss that you're understaffed as it is, and this is taking time away from valuable IT time.

      And if you want a "but I want to do it" answer. The best metric to use "whoever does the worst halfassed job consistently" , also known as the person who shoves work off onto other coworkers (like your boss is doing) when it's they should have taken ownership to begin with.

    14. Re:Hahaha by wmelnick · · Score: 4, Funny

      An obvious troll. In order to become management you have had to prove yourself over the course of many years. While you may think those above you are useless, they would not be there had they not done what you did first and for probably longer than you have.

    15. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is at least more subtle than the guidelines I was just given for my team's performance reviews (in fact every lead got the same guidelines): 20% outstanding, 60% doing their jobs, 20% underperforming. *Must* fit the reviews into this spread, no questions. Preparing us for what I assume are 20% cuts across the board is one thing, making us unfairly give people bad reviews just so management can feel good about canning good people is fucking horseshit. There are rumblings of a revolt, but it's hard when they have you by the balls. I hate working for a large corporation.

    16. Re:Hahaha by aurizon · · Score: 1

      Yes, make the shit up, but with a veneer of plausibility, that a lawyer in a improper dismissal law suit will tear to shreds, and the lucky fired one get a year or two of lawsuit wages. Then you get fired, and there is another lawsuit, at which your earlier chicanery is revealed, you go to jail, you are forced to form a protective alliance, you find you like it...

    17. Re:Hahaha by bsane · · Score: 0, Redundant

      rofl

    18. Re:Hahaha by slippyblade · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Do you actually believe this? Seriously? Most upper management is there because they either knew someone in the right position or had enough money/clout to force their way into it. Often time through family. Rarely these days do you see any upper corporate management that actually worked their way up.

    19. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      WOW! SO NAIVE IT HURTS!

    20. Re:Hahaha by sleigher · · Score: 1

      I find your ideas fascinating and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

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    21. Re:Hahaha by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      I'm management on my own firm and I don't get a big salary and sometimes work 14 hours a day, 6 days a week. What am I doing wrong? Should I slack more often?

    22. Re:Hahaha by phantomfive · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Do you actually believe this? Seriously? Most upper management is there because they either knew someone in the right position or had enough money/clout to force their way into it. Often time through family. Rarely these days do you see any upper corporate management that actually worked their way up.

      Do you have statistics or data that shows this? Because my experience has been the opposite, people do become upper management because of skill. Except in companies that are about to fail.

      My guess is you just made up your facts there, but if you have hard date, I'm willing (and interested!) to change my opinion.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    23. Re:Hahaha by ScuzzMonkey · · Score: 5, Interesting

      As I was idly paging through the comments thinking about how many of them were jumping to outlandish, unsubstantiated conclusions about why the poor submitter was being asked to come up with metrics, I also realized that pretty much nobody (in the finest tradition of Slashdot) has bothered to answer the actual question: "I'm wondering what people opinions are on what good metrics should be in regards to mttr mtbf etc." I think I misunderstood this at first as well... in light of what he does say about the goals ("...determining if we are performing above or below what is considered optimal") I don't think he's asking what metrics to measure or whether or not we think doing so is any good, but instead what reliable industry benchmarks are for those metrics, so he can tell his boss what is "optimal" or not about their operation.

      Well, shibby, sorry, but I don't think there are such things, or at least none relevant enough to take back to your management team. The only way to get anything meaningful out of metrics (obviously a lot of other posters are arguing you'll get nothing meaningful out of them; I disagree, but it may not matter either way if those are your orders) is to establish baselines for your organization and track future performance against those. It will take a while and it will have to be viewed in context to be worthwhile... important points to make when you are presenting your findings to management.

      I'm being optimistic and assuming genuine business goals and a desire to understand IT operations on the part of non-technical managers are the point of this request, not some haphazard effort to chop down a three-person department, but it is also worth passing along some of the critiques that are being posted here. On the other hand, if you don't already, you should understand that not all managers are buggers, and that many of the better ones have legitimate reasons for trying to understand what is going on in their IT department. We often forget how mysterious what we do looks to the un-initiated, and I have seen enough poorly run IT departments to sympathize with non-technical managers who are grasping for the tools to understand theirs. The point being, getting defensive and obstructive in the face of these requests isn't always the brightest idea; instead, you can look at it as an opportunity to present some of your perspectives and difficulties to managers who are finally prepared to hear about them (after all, they did ask!). They may not have the time or horsepower to learn everything you do in depth, but it is possible to analyze operations based on the right sort of shorthand.

      The cynics may be right; only you will know. But I've seen companies run down by their IT departments as often as I've seen IT departments run down by the management team, so performance concerns on both sides are well-founded. Anyone who thinks their manager shouldn't ask for a suitably abstracted toolset for judging performance is asking for a stupid manager.

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    24. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      You just sound like you are offended, because you happen to have an upper management position or are connected to one through family or friends. The give-away is that you think upper management has skills. The upper management doesn't need skills, since they know how to get people with skills, that is why they spend their time with golf and relaxation... at that level, that is how work is done (slowly with relationships and quickly with manipulation).

    25. Re:Hahaha by mustPushCart · · Score: 1

      Agree, the worst part ive personally seen termination of employment have no effect on your future prospects at all. A while back the CTO of a small development shop basically ran the whole gig into the ground causing 14 people to get laid off while he was fired/laidoff on the spot. Years later he walks into my new place with a fat salary and a lot of confidence from the bean counters. Theres no justice in the world , not helped by the fact that when you are in upper management you arent really 'fired' but you are "asked" to consider resigning.

    26. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm management on my own firm and I don't get a big salary and sometimes work 14 hours a day, 6 days a week. What am I doing wrong? Should I slack more often?

      No I'm not the GP, but I'll comment anyways.

      If you own your own firm then you don't (necessarily) count as "Management" (in this context). I could presume that the other poster was alluding to the fact that most people who get promoted (and hired even), do so because of personality and social manipulation skills (like lying, exaggerating, flattering, etc). Not to mention those useless ass-kissing references that most successful people use to promote themselves. If you already own your own business then chances are you didn't need to spend that much time bullshitting your superiors, nor are you motivated to sit at your desk and play Farmville all day on Facebook. Most Managers "delegate": they get other people to do the work for them, and they get most of the credit and usually ALL of the bonuses if some hard working Loser happens to work faster than normal people.

      Personally, I've actually heard Managers explain how important their work is to me, when all I've seen them do for most of the day is play video games, gossip, and occasionally tell people to work faster. I've also overhead them talk about how less intelligent their employees are (compared) to themselves. They are so smug about it they don't even realize how arrogant they sound, and don't even seem to care that I happen to be in the same room as them listening. That's because to THEM, I am a Loser. It does not matter if I am there or not.

      I've also worked with people who own their own businesses, and yes they can also be stupid and arrogant people who just happened to get lucky (for example, many businesses are family hand-me-downs: inherited from one generation to the next). I've never seen ANYBODY in Management at these places who wasn't family.

      To actually answer your question, "What am I doing wrong?", I don't know (obviously). But chances are you either don't lie, steal and cheat like more successful business professionals do, or you just aren't very good at what you are doing. Do you bribe (donate) to politicians? Do you plant negative stories about your competition in the newspapers? Do you burn down the businesses that are in competition to your own. Do you hire thugs to beat up union organizers? Do you spy on your employees? Do you threaten your employees? Do you intimidate your employees? Do you buy cheap products from third world slave labour farms (like the laogai)? Do you cheat on your taxes? If you don't do any of these things then you are already at a disadvantage from (many) "successful" companies. Maybe you are just too moral to be successful.

    27. Re:Hahaha by hedwards · · Score: 1

      There are going to be exceptions, but in my experience management is almost always worthless. Yes, being a manager is tough, it's supposed to be why there's more money in it, but in practice you find a lot of cronyism, incompetence, nepotism and general sleaziness at the top.

      Well run outfits will promote from within if at all possible and only hire out when they genuinely have to. In practice though, well run companies are hard to find.

    28. Re:Hahaha by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      You just sound like you are offended,

      I am not, I like to see data. That is how I learn.

      because you happen to have an upper management position or are connected to one through family or friends.

      I wish I were. Alas, I am merely a lowly programmer.

      The upper management doesn't need skills, since they know how to get people with skills, that is why they spend their time with golf and relaxation... at that level, that is how work is done (slowly with relationships and quickly with manipulation).

      If this is your view of upper management, you're braindead.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    29. Re:Hahaha by DigiShaman · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Pretty much. Either you earned an MBA from a respected university and groomed into the role (very quickly I might add), or they hired someone who worked in management from a completely different industry (a lateral move). Management isn't about having the ability to offer an extended work knowledge base to your subordinates. Management is all about leadership and when to crack the whip. This role is also very self serving. They will not go down without sacrificing their underlings first as though they're a disposable flak jacket. Although this also hold true in multi-level management of a large corporation. It gets ruthless at that level!

      My advise? When working in a large corp, learn the political landscape pronto. Mingle with management and especially their boss too. Make them treat you like family to the best of your ability. When shit hits the fan, you'll have a greater success of survival. You're rewarded with keeping your job...until next time.

      Or, you could just run your own business and forget all that drama. To each his/her own.

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      Life is not for the lazy.
    30. Re:Hahaha by dala1 · · Score: 1

      This kind of system is what leads to unethical behaviour in organizations. I feel sorry for your company.

    31. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      As an IT professional who was just fired from a job shortly after management started to ask for all sorts of new metrics from our ticketing system, I also fully agree with the parent statement. Get your resume together and start getting it out to recruiters pronto.

      In other words, this is a sham. There ARE no standard metrics because every single company and department are different. The only real metric that matters is if your customers are happy and satisfied, and that they could find out better than you could. You're being set up.

    32. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please elaborate - OP here, interested in your views.

    33. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ahh - What ever happened to "The Peter Principle"?

    34. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That already is unethical behavior.

      It's called "curving a grade" in engineering courses. You're not measuring the teammates ability to achieve the team goal, nor against any nominal criterion like "shipped product on time" or "contributed required modules on schedule and with appropriate documentation." Instead, you're a priori setting up 20% for failure, even if they meet all the organization's targets.

      The counter argument is, of course, that the targets must be too low, but that's not necessarily true: what if the team meets their goals with a statistically insignificant difference between the top and bottom ends of the metrics? If you had 10 people of the same caliber fitted to a 20-60-20 curve, you'd be artificially locating 2 on either end of the curve even though their real-world performance might not be all far apart.

      More dangerously, what if the entire team is failing to reach its goals? Fitting them to a curve doesn't address that possibility; dropping the two lowest performers may not raise the team achievement capability.

      The takeaway is that curving a team's metrics only evaluates their performance relative to each other, not their performance relative to your business goals. The only time it's useful is when you're absolutely forced to fire someone due to budget clusterfucks, and by that point your real problem isn't in the team but in the poor management that put you in that situation -- it's not a cure or even a band-aid, but a band-aid made of nettles that's going to harm your output (not to mention morale) while temporarily relieving cash flow

    35. Re:Hahaha by BenJCarter · · Score: 4, Funny

      You're fired...

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      For in politics, as in religion, it is equally absurd to aim at making proselytes by fire and sword. - Publius
    36. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah, so you work for BBVA then...?

    37. Re:Hahaha by rtfa-troll · · Score: 1
      When you really really can't stand someone and know they are destroying your department there are two strategies.
      1. Try to get rid of them.
      2. Try to get them promoted elsewhere far away.

      The first strategy may work in a small company. In a big company there are going to be a whole load of HR policies and so on which are likely to make it difficult and get you into trouble. This leaves the second strategy. Give them a good set of references; get someone to help them rewrite their CV. Get them some training in the direction they want to go. Get rid of them and let someone else have the problem. There is no possible comeback. If someone later asks if there weren't signs of incompetence you can just say "he seemed so good when he was here" or "the peter problem yet again".

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    38. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The upper management doesn't need skills, since they know how to get people with skills, that is why they spend their time with golf and relaxation... at that level, that is how work is done (slowly with relationships and quickly with manipulation).

      If this is your view of upper management, you're braindead.

      (BTW, I'm not the GP. Anyways:)

      Although not every job is the same, and there may be variations in what different jobs entail, the few books on management (that is executive level management) that I have read describe "management" as being largely a sales role. So yes, this often involves business lunches, golf games with business partners, and cocktails.

    39. Re:Hahaha by starfishsystems · · Score: 1

      I like it.

      Short version: develop metrics that are relevant to delivering on business operations. You need to work with management on identifying these in IT terms. Once you all have a common terminology and something to work towards, you on the IT side can come back with a set of activities that do this. Some activities are sustainment of useful practices. Some are initiatives that have to be planned forward. You're drawing them a map of the terrain and how to get through it. Rough cost each pathway and then work with these folks to figure out what order to do them in.

      Somebody owes me ten quatloos here. I'm sure of it.

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    40. Re:Hahaha by The+Askylist · · Score: 1

      Not from my experience - in fact the larger the organisation, the more the management (in general - there are a few exceptions) tend to have been failures in their previous roles, but very good at playing the system and ingratiating themselves with their superiors.

      They often take a lot of hitting with the cluestick before they understand any proposals to improve the performance of the department, and will then immediately claim the idea as their own.

      Needless to say, I often don't get on with such people and generally start looking for other work as soon as I encounter one.

    41. Re:Hahaha by HJED · · Score: 1

      The upper management doesn't need skills, since they know how to get people with skills

      Do you mean skills like the one you mentioned or just skills which are perhaps outside your area of expertise? It may not be the case all the time, but it certainly is the majority.

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    42. Re:Hahaha by theshowmecanuck · · Score: 1

      If he is the one doing this and then reporting, he can always fudge it to show that they are doing a great job but are severely understaffed. i.e. To show that there is no room to trim things from their group without hurting the company.

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    43. Re:Hahaha by gutnor · · Score: 1
      If you manage a US based large company and do not make a million$ based salary - you are doing it very very wrong. Also if you think that dining with an ex-classmate, going to a trade conference and reading a professional magazine is working, you should know that your company probably consider that slacking when one of your employee does it.

      If you are in a small company, put think into perspective, you probably manage less people / less money than an average project manager in a large company. So not the kind of people /. complains about (nobility-like cast so detached from their employees at the bottom or their clients there is no more any correlation between their decisions and their company performance), just the kind of people that made the US great.

    44. Re:Hahaha by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

          The problem is obvious. You need to hire someone to offload some of your work to.

          Being the owner and management is a big responsibility, but it doesn't have to drive your life. Look at what tasks do not absolutely have to be done by you. You didn't mention the size of your firm. I'm assuming it's more than just you, or you plus one.

          If you spend a substantial amount of the day arranging for customers to be satisfied, and directing employees to handle those tasks, hire a customer service manager.

          If you're trying to collect money from customers, and trying to balance the books, hire an accountant.

          If you're doing all the grunt work for your firm, hire staff to do that...

          You get the idea.

          It may seem to not make a lot of sense. If you're barely breaking even, how can you hire someone, even part time? Well, if you're stretched that thin, that means you are getting worn down by the job, which will impact your own productivity, and possibly the productivity of the whole company. Bring it back to 8 hours a day. Most likely, your company will do better, you won't burn yourself out in the next 6 months (or have a heart attack first), and hey, you made one more job in this economy.. :) You obviously have enough work to support it, if you are spending that much time at it.

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    45. Re:Hahaha by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Lets be honest, a lot of small business people run their own firms because they don't play well with others. So rather than slacking try accepting the feelings of others, try being less judgemental and try caring and sharing.

      If you want to reduce your work load, try being a little less greedy and get into profit sharing allowing for more self management within your staff as their efforts more directly tie to their income and there is an opportunity to increase their income above average.

      Of course you can always quit and go the corporate route, which is what everyone is obviously pointing to. So if you acknowledge the reptile in yourself consider this move http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/13150054/ns/today-books/t/snakes-suits-unmasks-corporate-psychos/, if you don't then you have undoubtedly come across it in other business people, the liars, cheats and thieves.

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    46. Re:Hahaha by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 2
      What people are trying to tell you, if it's not clear, is that when management starts asking for stats of the that sort it's because they are in the process of creating a paper trail of evidence which can be used to defend them in court if you (or anyone else involved) should sue them for firing you or your team.

      Probably someone simply doesn't like you and wants to see you gone. That's why you should have spent less energy working and learning and more energy getting people to like you.

      This is a basic life lesson. Even in IT, it's not what you know, it's who you know.

      Of course, since the presumptive product of IT is deeply intertwined with real-world results- something has to work- and reality is essentially a a 500 lb gorilla with a bad attitude and a 14 inch strap-on, the company itself is going to get fired.

      But not before you do.

      Stall, obfuscate the stats and work hard at your new second job- looking for a job while you can still legitimately claim you're employed.

    47. Re:Hahaha by WOOFYGOOFY · · Score: 3, Informative
      Your comment represents a type f fallacy I believe is called, , because it's so, therefore it's so. Essentially you're saying because they are in management they must have earned it.

      First observe that no matter what, someone HAS to be in management. CEO is a position, unlike yours, which cannot by stay empty for long.

      Second, all that has to happen to rise in a company is someone above you promotes you. People who bet on Skill and Hard Work taking them there are a dime a dozen and what's become essential to their positions and thus their superiors' well being.

      They aren't going anywhere, except out the door , when they can be replaced with someone cheaper or their talents are no longer required.

      But people who are visibly ambitious (but not too!) and agreeable (to management) and wiling to fuck their fellow employees over in private conversation (but not obviously) and have a lust for power, and meet the other requirements male, white (or Brahmin, as the environment demands) taller than average and , uh nice looking with a authoritative air... you know, the leader type THOSE people are hard to come by and need to be kicked upstairs to those open positions ASAP. What a joke. In my multi-billion dolar copany, the peole above me did my job for a matter of months.

    48. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The CEO who turned the company I left into a hellish place to work for studied law and economy, and then became a manager. According to his resume he had no ordinary job at all, his first job was management. It happens.

      Also, over the years I've seen a number of young people enter this company as a management trainee. They move through different functions in the company much faster than others do, and while they have ordinary functions in theory, everything that happens to them is geared towards them becoming managers. While they no doubt have to prove themselves in some respect, I suspect that doesn't mean they have to excel at every job they do, the point is for them to get to know the company. They have the advantage of working in an environment that helps them to succeed. That is not the same as having to prove yourself in a less helpful environment.

    49. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      the only correct answer is within industry expectation on a IT support per user basis. Preempt with a cost saving suggestion so mgt can have a win.

    50. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have statistics or data that shows this? Because my experience has been the opposite, people do become upper management because of skill.

      The only "data" you provide is your experience, where are your statistics? It's perfectly possible that slippyblade speaks from experience too.

      To add my own experience: I've seen both. The "skills" of the ones who worked themselves up quite often seem to include a lot of ambition and a pretty strong dose of narcissism. That doesn't necessarily make them good managers.

    51. Re:Hahaha by TheRaven64 · · Score: 2

      Management isn't about having the ability to offer an extended work knowledge base to your subordinates. Management is all about leadership and when to crack the whip

      This kind of thinking has caused a number of companies to fail. That's part of management, but the most important part of senior management is providing direction (there's a hint in the job title for a lot of them...). This requires them to have a detailed understanding of the market. A successful manager needs to understand three things:

      The first is what his subordinates are capable of. When an engineer says 'that's impossible' does he mean 'I can't be bothered?' Or 'we could do that, but only with five times the allotted budget?' How about 'we can't do that with current technology, but we probably will be able to in 2-3 years?' Or does he really mean that it's impossible.

      The second is what his competitors are capable of. There is no point in producing a great product a year from now if your competitors can produce almost the same thing in six months and for 10% less. You'll spend a lot on development and then end up with no sales to recoup it.

      The third, and often ignored, is what your customers will buy. You can produce the best buggy whip possible, but you won't get many car owners to buy it. This is often the hardest of the three. As His Fordship said 'if I asked my customers what they wanted, they'd have said a faster horse'. Working out what your customers actually want is very difficult, because often they don't know themselves. This also relates to the first point, because what they actually want may not have been possible a few years ago.

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    52. Re:Hahaha by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      You should sell your company to a big company in exchange for a seat on the board and enough money to slack off all of the time, obviously...

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    53. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone who works in management in the IT field, I can only say that the intent of the question presented depends entirely on the managers you are working with and how you handle them. From my own experience, I'd say the reason the manager has asked this question about metrics is that he/she has no idea how to figure out if your team is doing a good job or not. There may have been complaints about service and the manager is not sure if that is because you are overworked/understaffed or if you guys are lazy or if the complainer is just a whiner. You were likely asked because you are considered the most trustworthy of the group and this manager trusts your opinion. You can give him statistics about the ratio of support staff to clients at other places of business (I'm assuming you can find such stats online). You can also give your honest opinion about where your strengths and weaknesses are as a group, as well as ask if there were any specific complaints recently that he would like addressed. Maybe the IT support needs have changed a bit over time and you no longer have the skills you need in house? In that case, you can say that and ask for training or someone skilled in that arena. Or maybe the number of people you are supporting has gone up a lot recently and your group is now unable to keep pace with the number of service calls. Whatever the case, the manager is looking for some way of knowing more about what is going on. This situation is really one of politics and communication.

    54. Re:Hahaha by guus_deleeuw · · Score: 1

      Let's hope for him he tweaked the stats so it's one of the other two.

    55. Re:Hahaha by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      the person who shoves work off onto other coworkers (like your boss is doing)

      Unfortunately, in the real world, a boss who does things themselves is a poor boss. Richard Branson is wildly successful, mostly because he's incompetent at most basic business skills, except: delegation.

    56. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no no your an owner or self employed not "management"

    57. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sleep with the boss?

      I can't get her to say yes. :(

    58. Re:Hahaha by markbark · · Score: 1

      "The only "data" you provide is your experience, where are your statistics? It's perfectly possible that slippyblade speaks from experience too."

      What? This is Slashdot, where "data" is the plural of "anecdote."

    59. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If the world is this black and white to you, expect to be disappointed by everything in life.

    60. Re:Hahaha by cHiphead · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Every single place I've ever worked or been involved in the corporate going-ons. Everywhere. If you drink with the right people, play golf with the right people, sleep with the right people, or have the same rich friends as certain people, you can be upper management. The 'skilled' workers are kept in the trenches exactly because they are skilled and good doing what they do. The few skilled hard workers that make the move to upper management are just the ones that are tired of getting fucked over on salary while they produce everything, so they buy into the management bullshit and mingle with the other wordsmiths in order to make a change in their life. You need more exposure to different situations, try being a consultant for a while, you'll discover the reality real quick if you are even mildly observant.

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    61. Re:Hahaha by cHiphead · · Score: 0

      Programming is a different animal in and of itself, immediate 'upper management' in your field does require more expertise than most, however 'upper management' for the programmers is probably a piece of a segregated IT department from the rest of 'upper management' in a company. Your own experience skews your view of the necessities. I bet your own upper management has personal ties among each other that you don't realize or are ignoring to make your argument. Your view is optimal but its not at all reality.

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    62. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you are one paycheck away from ruin, then maybe indeed you should be fired.
      (barring medical catastrophes)
      If you cannot live within your means in your personal life it will most likely also
      be the case in your job.

    63. Re:Hahaha by darjen · · Score: 1

      I work in the IT department for a large manufacturing company. Most of the managers here worked their way up. My direct boss has been there for 11 years, and his boss for 22 years. They treat people well where I work, and they tend to stay around for a LONG time.

    64. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "you have had to prove yourself over the course of many years" My oh my you must be young... Access to management has nothing to do with seniority or tenure.... I have social climbers and people brought in from other sectors and most of them are useless as sin... But they make good press and multipage reports so they survive another year.

    65. Re:Hahaha by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      I was replying to the statement made by the parent AC, that "managers don't do shit". If I've had to work everyday 14 hours, I'd be pretty lousy at my job, because it would imply that I couldn't see the "big picture" - realize that it would be difficult to keep the pace for very long, identify why this was happening, and take measures to solve it, as you pointed out very well.
      Working 14h happens sometimes, but I feel confortable working 10h/day and some weekends without issue, doing the stuff that I like. Being the manager also gives me some flexibility the other way - it's easier to take a day off when needed, so I can't complain much.

    66. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If he is the one doing this and then reporting, he can always fudge it to show that they are doing a great job but are severely understaffed. i.e. To show that there is no room to trim things from their group without hurting the company.

      If he does that, then they'll just say that the weaksauce, metric failing cost center should be outsourced to another company that specializes in IT.

      Because surely that company will be able to provide better service on the same dime as it is their competitive advantage.

    67. Re:Hahaha by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      It's easy to criticize those who assume the risk of creating a company, those who actually put their money where their mouth is. I don't know _ONE_ small business manager that works less than any other employer. Most people do their job, punch the card, go home and at the end of the month they get their paycheck - bosses have a lot of responsability on their hands, and it doesn't go away just because it's time to go home. Shure, there are bosses that are greedy bastards, liars, cheaters and thieves - but you also have a lot of workers with that traits. Probably many of them would not work if they could live without the paycheck, and not because they don't like their job.
      Being boss/manager/whatever is not as glamorous as slashdot posts describe. I have no problem arriving at 11am at the office, because many times I was up late working. I have no problem in taking 3h lunch with clients, because babysitting them is part of my job. It is easy to think these are "boss privileges", but its a bit like wanting to be a rockstar - if you're not a major star, it means months inside smelly buses and cheap hotels, playing the same songs over and over, away from your family and friends, and probably with people you don't really like that much. But it is easier to point fingers than actually trying to understand what people actually do.

    68. Re:Hahaha by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      That's actually not a bad idea :)

    69. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you actually believe this? Seriously? Most upper management is there because they either knew someone in the right position or had enough money/clout to force their way into it. Often time through family. Rarely these days do you see any upper corporate management that actually worked their way up.

      I wanted to add one more method that seems to work perfectly at my employer (Top 25 - Fortune 500 company), you go to the same church as one of the decision making mid-managers. Most supervisors here, as well as the external hires for general open positions all seem to share that same trait. Some have been here for almost a decade, successfully work hard with dedication, and cannot seem move in to one of the supervisory spots granted to those who attend church with our mid-manager can move right into, not even having been in the industry prior. If we have 3 open spots doing the same work, theyre usually filled with 1 internal hire, 1 person from said church, and one external hire that ACTUALLY has the skills and resume to fill the position. I prefer to post AC on this because you never know who is watching. I kid you not, I wish something could be done about this.

    70. Re:Hahaha by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      You appear to be of the opinion that upper management is useless and does nothing. Do you also feel the same way about sales?

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    71. Re:Hahaha by slippyblade · · Score: 1

      Good point. I'd forgotten about the power of blindly following the same invisible babysitter. That's a big one.

    72. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice well-rounded perspective :)

    73. Re:Hahaha by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      Your view is optimal but its not at all reality.

      Why do you think this? Based on your own un-optimal view?

      I bet your own upper management has personal ties among each other that you don't realize or are ignoring to make your argument.

      Being 'friends' isn't the same as being incompetent. If I'm CEO, I'm going to hire people I think will do a good job. They might be my friends, but they aren't going to be the ones who are incompetent.....those will drive the company into the ground.

      This isn't something limited to upper management.....if I want programmers on my team, I'm going to first look at people I've worked with previously who I KNOW are good programmers. This is extremely common.

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    74. Re:Hahaha by Shadow99_1 · · Score: 1

      While it may be easier if your male and white (Or Brahmin), I think you've missed the memo were ambitious women and minorities do actually steer large multinationals.... At least in North America and Europe. We just saw IBM's new CEO who is a woman, there was the much hated woman who was head of HP a couple CEO's ago, and those examples are just from the tech industry. Give it a decade and we may well find it odd that a man is the CEO of a large company.

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    75. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In order to make it reasonably fair, you should use a cryptographic hash between your source data and resulting metric.

    76. Re:Hahaha by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Yes, those disgusting employees who risk nothing, hmm. Now I just don't get that, surely they risk their income, they ancillary benefits. I know many small business people and am often disturbed by their desire to consider their employees as the enemy. Those small business persons are offended by their employees desire for more wages, always screaming "I Took The Risk", all the money should be mine, totally ignoring that it's the workers who earn the money and the manager who simply takes a percentage of the income for themselves.

      It's funny how saying the works "profit sharing" will get many small business owners to have a hissy fit, how dare workers get a share of the profits. Trying to explain the principles of self management and greater employee responsibility for economic outcomes, just never gets past a toddlers tantrum of "it's mine all mine". Guilt causes many people to act very strangely, perhaps it's from stealing the rewards of other peoples efforts or being less than honest with customers, they become oblivious to the risk employees take and only see the risk? they took years and years ago when they started the business.

      What was that risk, considering they pay themselves a salary out of the companies income, companies which when they go broke often leave a pile of debts and employees with lost benefits but owners with the benefits of inflated salaries (ready to kick off another business in another location). So tell me, oh great risk taker, did you risk as much as a policeman risks, did you risk as much as a soldier risk, did you risk as much as a fireman risks or did you risk just a percentage of what poor people don't even have to risk.

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    77. Re:Hahaha by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Come now everyone knows that anyone with money is both incompetent and greedy. No one ever deserves more money than you they are just lucky.

    78. Re:Hahaha by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Richard Branson is wildly successful because he inherited a fortune. No other reason.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    79. Re:Hahaha by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Why is that even remotely funny? Being fired is demeaning, humiliating, and insulting.

      How is it fair for this guys kids to be told they cant have presents this year because Daddys boss wants to buy a BMW? Or how for New Years we maybe homeless if we dont sell everything we own to pay rent?

      Even if someone deserves to be fired its not fair for the kids.

      What is wrong with people?

    80. Re:Hahaha by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      No one ever deserves more money than you they are just lucky.

      lol everyone who makes more than you is incompetent and greedy, anyone who makes less is incompetent and lazy.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    81. Re:Hahaha by JoeMerchant · · Score: 1

      Plenty of people inherit fortunes - the ones that try to build on that using their own skills tend to do worse than he did.

    82. Re:Hahaha by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      But you also don't want to work there anyway- not with a 100-to-1 user to IT ratio.

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    83. Re:Hahaha by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      A detailed knowledge of the market != knowing enough C code to read this sentence.

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    84. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Actually people skills is what upper management is supposed to do. They are there because they can sell, not because they have a "practical" skill(by practical I mean learned). There is a reason so few people who are introverts ever become CEOs. There is also a high proportion of sociopaths in management position because being difficult does get you ahead statistically. Also have hair and being above 6 foot and male gives you a higher chance of being upper management in the US. Having an actual skill would make you less likely to succeed because you'd offend someone by somehow making them think you're smarter than them when you are. In short a good manager isn't someone who has actual skills but knows how to get those who do in the right position. A bad manager is someone without skills who knew the right people to get in his position.

    85. Re:Hahaha by phatfingered · · Score: 1

      Don't be silly, they won't be fired. One or more is about to be "managed out" though.

    86. Re:Hahaha by rev0lt · · Score: 1
      What money are you talking about?
      It is common practice to award bonuses to employees when a company has a solid economic base an has had an outstanding year. Most of the times, small business have neither a solid economic base or an outstanding year. You seem to think that "the bosses" fill their pocket with money hard earned by their employees - that's not how companies work, specially small companies.
      And why should I be patting employees in the back when they do the job they are paid for?

      What was that risk, considering they pay themselves a salary out of the companies income, companies which when they go broke often leave a pile of debts and employees with lost benefits but owners with the benefits of inflated salaries (ready to kick off another business in another location). So tell me, oh great risk taker, did you risk as much as a policeman risks, did you risk as much as a soldier risk, did you risk as much as a fireman risks or did you risk just a percentage of what poor people don't even have to risk.

      I don't know what backwater third world country you are talking about, or if you are just trolling. Where I live, if a company goes bankrupt, and has pending taxes, healthcare contibutions and salaries, the owers are responsible for them. Criminally responsible. and if the company went bankrupt because of management errors, the owners may find themselves in real legal trouble, as in possibility of jailtime. And it's funny you mention the idea that you can get away with it and start somewhere else - well, if you had debts to the banks, that means no credit whatsoever, no checks, no credit on suppliers. Good luck starting a business without banks. And yes, I know people that are paying for broke companies until they die.
      And then you give some pretty stupid examples.Every example you gave of risk jobs are actually pretty safe. There are more people killed by cars when walking every year than cops that die in service. and fyi I was a soldier, but hey, now you say I'm rich. How nice of you. Tell me, how many jobs did you create last year? How much taxes and healthcare fees did you pay last year? How much of your profits did you donate last year? From your speech, I'd guess it's a round number, right?

    87. Re:Hahaha by jftitan · · Score: 1

      I second your post!

          I worked for a company that promised promotions only worked from within. After about ten years of random CEO managements, whereas all upper management was interchangable. Eventually The Board of Directors setup new rules, and no longer was employment a thing about promotion for work well done. It became, who has the paperwork to bullshit their way into their position.

          We had a district manager from Blockbuster think operating a Radioshack district was like a rental business. Radioshack began to carry music, and DVDs and less components and parts. The general trend of Radioshack kept going down hill because the Len Roberts principles had turned upside down.

          As for smaller companies, I worked in a manager structure that was nothing BUT friends of friends. Any employee that wasn't friends of middle or upper management did not keep their jobs for very long. Eventually so many employees left, management was forced to go back to work. And a fundamental change in attitude happened. I left just in time, After my projects were finished, I was contractor for follow up jobs. Witnessed literally the self destruction of a company from within.

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    88. Re:Hahaha by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh, I just got a decent performance based bonus in IT... weird!

    89. Re:Hahaha by dala1 · · Score: 1

      Apart from the obvious flaws inherent in using relative rather than absolute values to measure performance, this creates a system that is built on interpersonal conflict. That is, every member of the team is in competition with everyone else for the top spots, and they know that they can 'beat' their team members either by 'performing' better (ethically or otherwise), or sabotaging others. In the most benign environment possible, being consistently in the top spots means things like more promotions and better raises, and a some people will compete to get there while others will just coast.

      If you introduce higher stakes like layoffs (as is usually the case if this type of system is implemented), then something interesting happens. The least ethical players find ways to game the system (in a call center, they dump calls. If they're a banker, they push through that loan they really shouldn't make) and their numbers go up. The most ethical players don't do this, and their numbers stay the same. Assuming equal talent, the unethical player wins in this game, and the ethical player is laid off. Everyone in between sees that the unethical players are being rewarded, and the ethical behaviour punished, and they start to emulate the unethical players in order to keep their jobs. After a few rounds of this, you end up with an extremely unhealthy work environment with an entrenched culture of dishonesty and distrust.

      There are more factors involved, of course. The initial state of the employees (their personal competitiveness, ego, and the effort/time/money they put into the job), the measurably of performance, and the internal culture of the company all make a big difference. But all things being equal, I would think twice before adopting the system that drove Enron off the deep end.

    90. Re:Hahaha by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      No, that comes under the first bullet point. If you don't know enough C to understand the above sentence, then you almost certainly aren't capable of judging what your employees are capable of accomplishing if your product depends on software. Management doesn't have to be skilled programmers, but they do need to understand the basics of what a computer can do and how long it takes to make a computer do things.

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    91. Re:Hahaha by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      I have yet to have a manger have a realistic interpretation of either what a computer can do, or how long it takes to do it. Heck, I know very few trained software engineers who have a good sense of this.

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  2. Metrics suck by SJ2000 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Didn't we just have a story about how metrics suck?

    1. Re:Metrics suck by JMJimmy · · Score: 2

      Great read too. I question this:

      determining if we are performing above or below what is considered optimal

      How do you determine 'optimal'? How you determine that determines the metrics you use.

    2. Re:Metrics suck by Ethanol-fueled · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Top-post whore responder advice giver here. As somebody who works in a company with very similar numbers described in the summary, the few IT personnel should take over some of the infrastructure programming duties like databases and internal support software and use their existing knowledge of the corporation to prepare to either take on more work or transfer to a different position or department within the company.

      Don't know how to program? Hit the books - your job may depend on it.

    3. Re:Metrics suck by ScuzzMonkey · · Score: 4, Informative

      Bad metrics suck, good metrics are useful data.

      As folks have already mentioned, time to answer and time to resolve are both important, and I think you have to watch for re-opened as well to curb "how fast can I shove this under the bed?" resolution games.

      My favorite is average tickets per user, though. Particularly on a small team, what you really want to gear your measurements toward is preventing incidents in the first place. It is helpful to know what your overall ticket volume looks like, then, and to aim to decrease it over time in the same way you might try to decrease time to answer and time to resolve. That's important, because as the previous article suggests, if you will get what you measure... and your overall goal should not simply be to answer tickets faster and resolve them more quickly, but to not have as many in the first place*. Every issue represents a waste of somebody's time and therefore corporate resources that could be put to more productive uses. Steadily decreasing mtta and mttr are nothing to cheer about if your ticket count is increasing.

      But you can keep it simple. You can drown yourself in metrics and lose sight of why you're tracking them and what you really want to accomplish. You may not really need any more than these few; better to start small and add what you need when you need it. I know there's always tension over getting a system in place that can capture what you need for historical purposes when you realize you need to know something new down the road, but resist the urge to over-collect. Half the time you won't need it all and are just wasting time getting it in the system.

      * There is a caveat to this; in some organizations, I actually DO want to see an increasing ticket/user count, at least for a time. This is something I shoot for when relations between IT and users have broken down badly enough that users have stopped reporting problems to IT because they feel it's useless, and their issues are never resolved anyway. In those cases, a rising ticket count can represent an increasing trust level, which is good. You generally won't fix issues you don't know about.

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    4. Re:Metrics suck by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      First call resolution is almost as important as 7 day repeat rate... while you do want to look at things like mttr, you want to be careful with using that as a hire 'em and fire 'em metric, because it will encourage people to cherry pick easy problems, and can penalize the people who get stuck with the hard issues. It takes 5 minutes to configure somebody's e-mail client, but it will take much longer if you have to order parts to replace defective hardware.

    5. Re:Metrics suck by CAIMLAS · · Score: 4, Informative

      Metrics is just a management word for "bad statistics".

      With a distribution of 3, it's not really possible to have statistics of meaningful nature. You've got shared responsibilities and bounce things off of each other. One person may open and close more tickets, have a shorter duration for tickets, etc. - but he's only doing the actual "work". The others may be giving him all the input necessary to complete the task(s).

      Ideally, your ticketing system will reflect, very vaguely, who's doing work and who is not, but even then it's not going to be well representative of what's actually going on.

      People do different types of work, of different levels of difficulty. For instance, I may do one ticket on Monday, three on Tuesday, and one for Wednesday through Friday. Why? Aside from the fact that I'm bad about actually doing tickets for my work (my god, I'd not have the time for work, and then there'd be more things that aren't getting done, making us -all- look bad), there's the reality that my tickets aren't terribly easy, often requiring hours of log perusal and research to try to fix problems. Meanwhile, the guy who knocks out 40 tickets a week - malware disinfection, workstation reinstalls, etc. - has fairly wrote work of a repetitive nature, comparably. Also, he's following instructions or asking for advice on a regular basis, even if I'm not his boss.

      You said so yourself: you're a member of a 3-person IT team. The only use 'metrics' have here aside from what should be plainly obvious in a group of 3 (who's fucking up, who's not getting back to people, who's not doing work) is to keep track of what amounts to customer requests and problems. X workstation needs to be reinstalled, Y server has a crashing whatever, and so on. If you're working on and sharing a ticket queue, you are all mutually responsible for all of the tickets: if something isn't getting done, it's everyone's fault (or nobody's fault). You may consider presenting your metrics in the light of this reality (like statistics, metrics can lie, too).

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    6. Re:Metrics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "My favorite is average tickets per user, though."

      You can't think of a single way to game that?

      This is exactly like the classic security design problem. People can design security systems that they can't break into, not systems that can't be broken into.

    7. Re:Metrics suck by Sarius64 · · Score: 2

      When help tickets are all that matters, you'd be surprised how many tickets get generated.

    8. Re:Metrics suck by jginspace · · Score: 1

      I think the main thing the submitter can take away from that article is that you measure the availability of systems rather than trying to painstakingly log activities among the IT staff. What is considered 'optimal' is not covered in the previous story. You'd be working on something like: Internet access only being down 5 mins per day; email for 10 mins; each workstation only suffering 30 mins per month - or whatever. The most important stats probably won't be in your 'ticket management system' - the good news is that you can generate lots of juicy data automagically - Nagios.

    9. Re:Metrics suck by MichaelKristopeit422 · · Score: 4, Interesting
      i'm dealing with a bug detecting team in india right now through a client (their choice to use them)... they use "fixed" bugs as their main metric.... so they file tons of bugs... we waste tons of time explaining why there isn't a bug, then they agree and say "ok we'll mark it fixed" and we say "mark it rejected" and they say "ok we'll mark it fixed".

      it's a nightmare.

      metrics and quotas will only lead to less overall return... unless, of course, you're just trying to create a jobs program.

    10. Re:Metrics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Average tickets per user guarantees you lose the best people first.
      Since they always end up with the non-trival problems which take non-trivial time to resolve.

      Good way to fuck the company though, and since they are firing you anyway .....

    11. Re:Metrics suck by sjames · · Score: 1

      The problem with metrics is that if you look closely enough at things to actually KNOW if they're good or bad, you know enough to not need them.

      Is the guy with the lowest average tickets slow or is he the guy that takes the hard ones because the rest of the team doesn't stand a chance of solving them? If you know the answer to that question, he is already evaluated, what do the metrics contribute? As you point out, a declining ticket count can be very good or very bad. If you know which it is, you already know how you're doing.

      There can be SOME value to measuring, but all too often, metrics are like the guy that thinks the bathroom scale can actually measure to 0.1 pounds because he's pretty sure he can eyeball 10 positions between lines on the dial.

    12. Re:Metrics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To prove a point. If you know how the ticket queue works in email, you could game the metrics so that you either always get to cherry-pick first (this happens when you work a single queue with others, but also happens if you are responsible for multiple queues, and you know which queues are easier) or get someone in cahoots to generate more easy tickets.

      "Help my computer isn't working" (so inspecific), and they always send tickets like this. When you call them up or walk over it's something stupid like the power cord came loose, the mouse isn't plugged in, their iPod won't charge from the PC's usb port, someone (but not them) spilled coffee into the keyboard, cabled mouse was cut by the keyboard tray, someone stabbed the monitor with a pen, laptop won't turn on (battery is dead or is in suspend.)

      (All of the above are actual things that happened to employee machines that the employee was directly responsible for.)

    13. Re:Metrics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "per user", not "per IT staff". Or, stated another way, "how many tickets are there per 1000 users each month?".

    14. Re:Metrics suck by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Determining optimal comes well after you start collecting metrics--usually months after. If you've never collected them, you are almost guaranteed to find things in the first month (or even the first day) that will look stunningly bad at first, but are quickly correctable. Once you get things balanced out--if you can--then you can figure out what's optimal.

      Getting management to understand this may be a chore if they're new to metrics or not trying to find a reason to fire someone.

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    15. Re:Metrics suck by ScuzzMonkey · · Score: 1

      Sorry, I guess I was not clear enough about this; it's a generalized number that has nothing to do with either the individual tickets or the individual users. It's measured across the board: Monthly Tickets/Total Users. It's a gauge of the department, not of specific people.

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    16. Re:Metrics suck by xero314 · · Score: 1

      In this case the metric was supposed to be based off of the ticket tracking system. This makes optimal simple. The optimal number of tickets that are not resolved as invalid is exactly zero. If the number is above zero then someone already screwed up, so tracking anything after that is completely missing the point.

    17. Re:Metrics suck by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      I'd disagree completely. Determining what is optimal is the first step. From there you build your metrics to track the effectiveness of changes.

      The problem is illustrated very well in a TED lecture about Microsoft Pivot. You can create all sorts of metrics but every time you take a different perspective on the data it can tell you something different. Unless you are going to create a metric to monitor every perspective you'll never get the whole picture. If you do create a metric to monitor every perspective you'll be so overloaded with information that you'll stagnate.

      1) Identify an area that you want improvement in
      2) Determine what is optimal from a business perspective
      3) Build the metrics to monitor changes towards the optimal and for possible problem areas (example: improving ticket times... logical metrics to monitor would be employee retention/stress/satisfaction, customer retention/satisfaction, ticket recurrence, etc)

    18. Re:Metrics suck by Martin+Blank · · Score: 2

      If you don't know what's wrong, how can you identify what to improve? You may be able to come up with a few things off the top of your head based on anecdotal evidence, such as frequent concerns about available storage or that tickets take too long to close. Those can perhaps be part of your initial focus, but metrics are there to help you identify trends, find the deviations, and act on them (preferably before they become a problem). If a server is consistently running at 50% CPU utilization, is that optimal? You can't answer that without a lot more data. What are the peaks? How long do they last? Does it impact productivity? How much? How expensive is an upgrade if it seems required?

      A sometimes more difficult one has to do with bandwidth. Where I work, we were consistently hitting our bandwidth cap, which slowed everyone's access. Management didn't want to fork over the money to add more, so they asked my group to figure out why. We figured that e-mail was this percent, servers that percent, but of course the biggest was user Internet, and the biggest by volume was streaming media. They wanted us to institute heavy filters on it, but we pushed back, saying that while we had all these numbers on what they were getting, we didn't know why. Sure, a lot of it was LOLcat media, but a lot of it turned out to be regular training videos hosted by YouTube and a few other places that management had mandated be taken on a regular basis. Their filters would have broken the training they required. We also found that a few people were abusing it pretty badly, with one guy downloading more than a terabyte of various videos from some Microsoft conference. We managed to get the number of times we hit the cap down to a few times a week, but eventually management understood that we had to increase the bandwidth.

      Get your basic metrics, figure out what they're telling you, figure out why they are that way, then determine what's optimal and come up with the solution. Once you have that stable, you can add more metrics and address other hidden issues.

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    19. Re:Metrics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Totally agree.

      My small team was taking a beating and getting little support from management. Issues were piling up, we were getting randomized, and I felt like I needed another staff member. Management wouldn't budge though. I needed to prove to them that I could manage my department better. Nobody even cared about IT metrics at our company. Rather than see them as an evil thing, we embraced them to gain credibility in our organization.

      We started by outlining some of our support boundaries, types, and set goals for response times. Then we customized our ticket system and added in some categories and priorities.

      For Support (meaning something is broken and must be fixed)
      High pri: 24 hour solution
      Medium pri: 1 week
      Low pri: 3 months or more, not a critical metric

      We also had a "Request" category (not a fix, but doing standard tasks like toner replacement, adding e-mail alias, help train someone, etc.). These had different goals for solutions. We even had ticket categories for maintenance and projects. Though they junk up the ticket system, it allowed us to track time going into other tasks and paint a picture of a staff member's whole day of work, not just the support end.

      Some of our favorite metrics:

      1. Average time on support OR request tickets aggregated by our team or split down to individual staff members, and divided by priority level.

      2. Total time spent on tickets by user (so I know if we're actually working or lounging around). ---this is a motivator for staff to actually enter tickets and get credit for their work. Some flexibility is necessary here because people eat lunch and go to the bathroom - you can't expect this to add up to 40 hours a week perfectly.

      3. "Most troublesome user or department." I don't advertise the data on this report, but it lets me know who to focus on with either training or nudging their boss a little. Execs get interested in this once in a while, and the users that found out we keep such a log try to keep off of it. Many will joke about it, but still ask "Hey I'm not in the top 10, right?" It encourages users to be a little smarter and not lean so heavily on IT for silly things.

      4. Most troublesome product - THIS IS BY FAR THE BEST METRIC. This has helped me gain support in dropping old junk software, getting better solutions, setting up training for people, or creating general awareness that we need to improve. For example when I was able to quantify how much time it took when people forgot their passwords for our cloud-based e-mail password, I got support for Office 365 and ADFS for single sign-on. In the interim, people stopped took a little more personal responsibility because they realized that password stupidity = preventing us from getting value-added projects done. Stuff like this is beautiful because it takes most of the heat off of IT staff, and informs other managers of our company-wide pain points that we should invest in.

      5. On the same lines as #3, identifying how many high pri tickets are out there vs. medium or low (and possibly categorizing by customer or department) can sometimes sniff out IT abusers that need stuff now now now. Tread on this carefully as you don't want to constantly wage war with your metrics, but with some political prowess and some data to back you up, you can start solving some of these problems.

      #3 and #4 are big for us. Don't just think of metrics in terms of how you will hang yourself. Think about the bigger picture and answer questions that will help motivate your team in a positive way, get credit for what they/you do, and enable you to tell a better story to management. You probably will want to develop two sets of metrics - a more detailed set for yourself so you can manage effectively and proactively identify problems (and solve them in advance before your boss gets to it), and a more general set for your boss so you can deliver a simple and concise picture without getting him too involved with the details you can handle yourse

    20. Re:Metrics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bad metrics suck, good metrics suck (less).

      irrespective of whether a metric is good or bad, it changes the game. It stops people thinking about how to do their jobs and starts making them think about how to maximise their score for the metric.

      Any situation where the metrics are known or can be discovered are a polluting influence.

    21. Re:Metrics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yet, if you have zero tickets, then you are overstaffed. Time to reduce headcount. Also consider, how are you above optimal if your ticket count cannot go below zero? Again, open tickets, closed tickets, total number tickets, first call resolves, all can be gamed and this metric is about as useful as hair color of newborns when determining the optimal temperature to flash freeze water.

    22. Re:Metrics suck by Thugthrasher · · Score: 2

      I think it's funny that so many here are assuming the company is looking at individual metrics. (with comments such as "With a distribution of 3, it's not really possible to have statistics of meaningful nature." in the parent) Sometimes companies are looking for things that measure the performance of the entire team in order to determine if the team is functioning as well as it should be (I have gone through this fairly recently where I work). Maybe his company is looking for things like "average time to complete tickets," "average number of tickets per user," or similar numbers. These can be measured for the team and then, where it appears there is a weak point, you can usually figure out if it's an individual on the team causing the issue or the teams as a whole (because, as the parent said, in a group of 3 it should be obvious who is causing the problems if they exist).

    23. Re:Metrics suck by Thugthrasher · · Score: 1

      Average tickets per user guarantees you lose the best people first. Since they always end up with the non-trival problems which take non-trivial time to resolve.

      Good way to fuck the company though, and since they are firing you anyway .....

      You're thinking of average tickets per "IT guy" not average tickets per user.

    24. Re:Metrics suck by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      It's not about identifying what's wrong - it's about identifying where you want improvement. There's a big difference between the two.

      What you're talking about is diagnosing and fixing problems. These do not require metrics, they do require gathering information but metrics are too expensive to bother on something like you're talking about. A true metric is used to uncover patterns that you can't see on the surface of the data.

    25. Re:Metrics suck by Xeno+man · · Score: 1

      Your talking about machines, were talking about people. Metrics turn people against one another. Before you have a group of people working together to solve problems and get work done, after you have individual people working on getting their numbers to look good or at the very least, not to be the worst in the department. Helping someone else with a problem does not help me keep my numbers up. Helping other people actually hurts my numbers, sometimes so much that I get in trouble for not having good numbers despite the fact I'm the most knowledgeable, efficient and important member of the team so why help the department?

      Look at some of the comments here already, make sure the numbers don't make you look bad, make the numbers point to someone else on the team. Already Slashdot wants to knife someone in the back just to save their own asses. Sadly the reality is that is what you need to do to keep your job sometimes.

    26. Re:Metrics suck by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      I'm coming from an environment where management wanted metrics. I was one of those who tried to hold back that tide because I strongly distrust MBAs who look for metrics. But two years later, I can honestly say that we've gotten a much better handle on our environment and the end users are much happier.

      There is a risk to metrics. Yes, they can be used to get people in trouble or even fired. In some cases, this is a good thing, because some people truly are deadweight. In other cases, management can use it to make decisions that they don't want to make. In the case of my workplace, a county government, some people were let go because the budgets weren't there and someone had to go, and the metrics were used to figure it out. Did anyone get treated unfairly? Perhaps, but not that I know of. Most of those who were fired were those who couldn't keep up, and in some cases, while I wish them no direct ill, I'm rather relieved that I don't have to deal with them anymore.

      Metrics are a tool. You can use them to shape a department or you can abuse them to break a department.

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    27. Re:Metrics suck by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Drive space utilization. Mail flows. Interface utilization. Ticket response and closure times. Mail archive sizes.

      We measure a lot of things. Some of them are used for diagnostics as well as trending. We also use them to predict when we may run short of resources and either obtain more resources or change policies or behaviors to extend the life of existing resources. We've found places where things looked fine because people accepted that they should be the way they always had been, but there was a bottleneck somewhere, removal of which improved performance significantly.

      I'm not an MBA, so I can't give you the formal definition of metrics. I know that we are held accountable for the metrics that are generated, and that once we figured out what needed to be measured--which took some time--we were able to figure out where we were suboptimal and learned how to address them. But again, until you actually have some numbers--which will show where things are broken but hidden--you can't figure out what is optimal.

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    28. Re:Metrics suck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe your system works, but I doubt it is primarily because of the metrics. Unfortunately, to rely on metrics you need to have intelligent and competent management; this will always be the weak link, which is why metrics usually fail to be an indicator of anything useful.

      Of course Math and statistics don't lie, and they are not irrational in and of themselves, but we need to judge their use in the context of how they are used and who is using them. To use an analogy; you don't set up a nuclear plant in an Earth Quake prone country and expect a business manager to understand how to run it safely. In many (most) cases, its often better not to play the game.

    29. Re:Metrics suck by JMJimmy · · Score: 1

      Exactly. You can use existing metrics to help diagnose an issue but you'd never develop a metric to do so unless the source was masked in some way. They're very useful for evaluating existing systems and finding performance gains and hidden patterns. Problem is that with every variable change you get a new perspective.

      Example: Leading cause of death in women, heart disease. Leading cause of death in women under 40, accidents. Leading cause of death in women 40-50... could be something else entirely. Each one tells a different story by changing a single variable. With the permutations in business and the subjectivity of much of it, it's difficult to come up with meaningful metrics or enough metrics to encompass an entire process.

    30. Re:Metrics suck by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      A super easy one in this case is time of entry to time of completion of ticket- for a large number of tickets to get averages.

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  3. Here's a few... by HerculesMO · · Score: 5, Informative

    Time to answer call, time to resolve ticket, abandoned tickets (unresolved).

    If you google a few of those it will bring some more, but that's a simple start.

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    1. Re:Here's a few... by suutar · · Score: 4, Informative

      Number of calls back after initial call (measuring, in theory, how often the initial call resolved the issue) Number and duration of system outages (if you're doing sysadmin stuff as well as support stuff)

    2. Re:Here's a few... by h2oliu · · Score: 1

      These are both good. I'd mod up if I could.

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    3. Re:Here's a few... by fsckmnky · · Score: 2

      Don't forget to correlate any metrics collected internally, with your customers experience ratings.

      Metrics collected internally without correlation can easily be gamed.

      If you data mine the metrics against customer satisfaction, you'll see who is naughty and who is nice.

    4. Re:Here's a few... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Seems to me that a good first metric should be:

      1. The 3 of you have a paid vacation of at least one month, without anyone covering your jobs.
      2. You come back and see what happened during your absence. If everything is fine, there are two options:

      A. You're so great that your preparedness made possible to withstand your absence
      B. You're not required.

      As second metric, I leave to you how to differentiate between A and B. :)

    5. Re:Here's a few... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      honestly all worthless stats for an IT department. Perhaps a call center for Indians but not an IT department.

    6. Re:Here's a few... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      The reference metric must be to have everything operated by IBM. My experience over the last 10 years or so:

      Every 2 years there will be a major power outage at the server room (for one reason or another), and everything will be down, and it will take them around 24 hours to reboot everything in the correct order, and longer to make sure everything is running smoothly.

      At lest a few times per year, there will be no connection to critical servers. May be caused by many things.

      Every couple of years, the backup system can't keep up, so everything is slow until noon when the backup is finished.

      Once a year, their DNS server is down for at least 8 hours.

      Once every 5 years, multiple drives fails in succession in the SAN, and RAID is not able to recover. And IBM failed to react to when one drive per day started to go down. Do not replace what is not broken.

      Then there all all the minor issues. Like Lotus Notes down, which happens at least every 3 months.

      All the above is considered normal stable operations if they outsource to IBM.

    7. Re:Here's a few... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm thinking that turnaround time is important. Get your client to sign off on the problem being fixed and measure the time it took. If on average you are taking hours to fix problems, that is sub-optimal.

      Also mark recurring problems, like the same printer stalling. Fixing the same problem twice is suboptimal.

      If your turnaround time is quick and problems aren't recurring, that's optimal by anyone's standard.

    8. Re:Here's a few... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      or more realistic options:
        - some/all other teammates are staying extra hour or two - unpaid (knowing you will do the same when they are on vacation)
        - some part of work your department would usually complete anyway when it reaches their team they instead now either postpone or move it to some other partially overlapping team
        - some work is simply not done/rejected if it is considered less important (like setting up someone's new iPhone to use WIFI, just tell him to use old phone or some external WIFI until you can "install support for his model of phone" next week
        - instead of doing what "customer" WANTED you to do (harder/more time usually) you do what "customer" told you/ASKED you to do so that you can manage all your tasks in time you have available while teammate is on vacation
        - let even important tasks pile-up, usually together with doing re-prioritization of tasks in queue
        - you are on vacation during time of year when there is less work/people in office/tickets (like during summer-vacation period)
        - if you work on tasks where there is not much redundancy (other people doing same job) company usually limits you that you have to take your vacation time in pieces not larger than 2 weeks, or alternatively 4 weeks but when there is less work to do (some parts of year require less workforce, luckily company can't fire&hire 50% of its workforce every 3 months)

  4. easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "what good metrics should be in regards to mttr mtbf etc"

    Easy, there are no good metrics. Metrics don't lead to improved business outcomes, they rarely cover enough variables to tell the whole story, so all they lead to is people gaming the metrics, most likely leading to worse business outcomes.

    Metrics are favoured by lazy management.

    1. Re:easy by mewsenews · · Score: 4, Funny

      Metrics are favoured by lazy management.

      Look, using metrics doesn't indicate lazy management.

      Look, using metrics that you don't have available doesn't indicate lazy management.

      Look, using metrics that you don't have available so you ask your staff to measure their own metrics doesn't indicate lazy management.

      Look, using metrics that you don't have available, so you ask your staff to measure their own metrics, but you don't know what metrics they should measure, so they end up asking Slashdot what some good metrics are, doesn't indicate lazy management.

    2. Re:easy by Lisias · · Score: 2

      Metrics are favoured by lazy management.

      Metrics are also favored by management that does not knows squat about what the heck they are managing.

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    3. Re:easy by nine-times · · Score: 3, Insightful

      More to the point: There is no good reason to use metrics for a 3 person team. You could sit down and observe the 3 person team for a week and get a very good idea of what's going on, and it would be easier and probably take much less time than designing, implementing, gathering, and analyzing metrics. It's easier and more accurate.

      If you're going to use metrics, use it in situations where you're managing such a large group that you can't possibly know who everyone is. Don't use it in situations where you have the option of doing a simple evaluation.

    4. Re:easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But then how would the team measure it's own performance

      Will they really know if they are getting better or worse?

      What if *gasp* one of the employees has a spout of initiative and tries something new, how will they be able to measure the effect of their new initiative?

      If their initiative succeeds (subjectively of course because they won't have the stats), how will they show it to management and get the recognition they deserve?

      Measuring performance doesn't always have to result in someone getting fired. Sometimes you just want people to be aware of their own performance over time

    5. Re:easy by LS · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't buy this. I (hate to admit that I) worked at Zynga, and their entire business model is based off of metrics, both internal and customer metrics. They are behaviorists, and brought in financial industry data modeling to design games and make business decisions. It works, and it works fucking well. In the long term this Skinner box model may or may not work for creating a sustainable business, but it has worked for the last couple years. People may not like their games, but they keep playing them.

      The problem is bad or incomplete or misinterpreted metrics. Metrics in and of themselves or not bad. The problem is with the people that use them.

      LS

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    6. Re:easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Management thinking metrics improve performance are like coaches thinking a stopwatch helps athletes run faster. And at least the coach _knows_ what he's measuring, while metrics quantify _something_ and nobody exactly knows _what_.

    7. Re:easy by Thugthrasher · · Score: 2

      Metrics by themselves don't lead to improved business outcomes.
      But if used properly, they can. Lazy management doesn't use metrics properly. Good management does.

      You shouldn't look at metrics blindly and say "see, this is a problem, get rid of this guy."
      You SHOULD look at metrics, see what doesn't look 'right' and say "Okay, this might be a problem, let me investigate."

      Metrics, when used properly, are a tool to find out what you need to look into without having to be intimately familiar with what is going on in a department (particularly when it is someone managing an area they do not have technical expertise in). They are just indicators of what's going on, no GOOD manager thinks they tell the whole story.

    8. Re:easy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zynga seems to work in spite of their over reliance on metrics. They have a very lucrative niche market. It's like saying a casino uses metrics, therefore metrics must make lots of money. The fact is the casino makes lots of money without metrics as well.

    9. Re:easy by bartonski · · Score: 1

      One behaviorist meets another in the hall, and says "You're fine, how am I?"

  5. What are those acronyms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You could sure start by explaining what "mtrr" and "mtbf" mean!

    1. Re:What are those acronyms? by 19thNervousBreakdown · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      memory type range registers and millisecond-timed blowfish fucking

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    2. Re:What are those acronyms? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      MTBF = Mean Time Between Failures
      MTRR should be MTTR = Mean Time To Repair

      Explanations would've been nice for convenience but frankly if you didn't know those acronyms anyway you probably don't have much to contribute to answering the question.

  6. 3 People? by stevenfuzz · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Simple... if you have a 3 person IT team at a 300 employee company and your site / it infrastructure isn't in nuclear meltdown your probably doing good. Looks like they are going out of house for IT. Welcome to the cloud-future, where your job is dissolved for magic.

    1. Re:3 People? by hedwards · · Score: 2

      Doesn't mean they aren't going to try to work with 1 fewer. I remember working an understaffed job a while back and they still managed to figure out how to eliminate an extra position. It didn't work well and stressed out the employees, but they were able to cut the position.

      I'm guessing they'll try that here, even if they do have to give up and hire somebody back.

    2. Re:3 People? by twilightzero · · Score: 1

      I just got cut off of a 4 person criminally overworked team doing the same thing with metrics. HUGE push for metrics and 1 person gets eliminated, and they still don't know what to do with the metrics they gathered (I hear from teammates still). Be ready to demand a pay raise when your workload suddenly spikes heavily.

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    3. Re:3 People? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, I have 100 people / 300+ computers (each a desktop, most have a laptop, and tons of lab machines running HPLC, ICP, etc) -- all by myself. I totally agree with this statement that somehow nuclear meltdown hasn't occurred is due to how good I am at my job :-)

    4. Re:3 People? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Look at it from the PHB's perspective.

      "How could they not give me a bonus. I just reduced the IT budget by 33%. That's huge!"

      "Nancy, can you Google where Barbados is? I think I need a vacation."

  7. Good luck by U8MyData · · Score: 1

    I'm afraid if some one is asking for metrics of three people supporting 350 in international terms does not know what the hell they are asking for or what it is that you 3 do. That being said, it can be expected you will be scrutinized over every little detail. Be careful. I won't ask, but I do wonder who you work for. I have been a similar situation and it is completely frustrating. Good luck...

    1. Re:Good luck by ScuzzMonkey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It's not unusual for management to be clueless about what exactly it is that their IT staff does on a daily basis, nor is it unnatural that they should take an interest. Often, it's a good sign when they actually ask the guys doing the work what the metrics should be... it indicates some degree of trust, and they haven't simply read an "IT Management for Dummies" book over the weekend laying out some arbitrary system that isn't going to fit your organization.

      As a more cynical commenter points out, it also provides the opportunity to create a measurement system that you can game to make you look good. But I think it isn't a terrible sign that the bosses care what their employees are up to. It may represent an opportunity to explain what you think is important that perhaps they hadn't considered previously.

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    2. Re:Good luck by houghi · · Score: 1

      I have used metrics to show how BAD we were doing. The reason was under staffing. Management understands numbers, so if you can provide proof that your numbers are bad because of under staffing they can do something about it.

      I one place they reduced the expectations. In another they increased the staffing. The latter because there were more things that needed to be done. Company that had grown and tasks that had been added.

      You should however give numbers as team numbers, not as individual numbers. The team is too small for that.

      Comparing it to other companies is not a good thing. What s importand is what the perception in your company is. Do you get feedback from people and if so, what is it? Do people sound frustrated if they forgot their password, because it means 4 hours before you answer a ticket?

      Even those 4 hours could be a reason for showing you are understaffed and under performing. In Europe 3 people means there is almost every other week somebody on holiday. Add one person sick and you will have serious issues if the third has a flat tire.

      Metrics as with statistics is a way to proove your point, so look at what YOU want to achieve and back that up with numbers. If possible with financial numbers as well. e.g. a fourth person would cost X but would gain the company Y.

      Managers love that shit. It does not mean you would get that 4rth person, but if people complain, you can show them the numbers and blame management. If the right people see it, they will start pushing management and a year later it will be included in the new budget.

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  8. Above optimal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2

    You're always below optimal, by definition of optimal.

    1. Re:Above optimal? by DWMorse · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think you've confused "peak" with "optimal."

      Peak = best possible output

      Optimal = most satisfactory

      You can tune an engine to run within optimal specs. But if you run it at peak nonstop...

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    2. Re:Above optimal? by dcollins · · Score: 1

      I can tell that you didn't actually look up those words in a dictionary or anything.

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    3. Re:Above optimal? by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Optimal = raises and praise. Management tends to discourage that. therefore the result will be "needs improvement"

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    4. Re:Above optimal? by Maritz · · Score: 1
      Optimum:

      noun 1. the best or most favorable point, degree, amount, etc., as of temperature, light, and moisture for the growth or reproduction of an organism. 2. the greatest degree or best result obtained or obtainable under specific conditions. adjective 3.(adjective: optimal) most favorable or desirable; best: optimum conditions.

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    5. Re:Above optimal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're always below optimal, by definition of optimal.

      It is optimal for me to disprove this with a single sentence.

  9. optimal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    talk about flow, about bottle necks. Visualize workflow. Look at Henrik Kniberg's paper on kanban as applied to IT Ops. My guess is that your ticketing systems will provide low value data on volumes on resolution time - gear up - visualize the pipeline. check http://www.infoq.com/minibooks/priming-kanban-jesper-boeg - turn the conversation around to "business value" - don't get wrapped in the ropes of volumetrics /peace.

    1. Re:optimal? by bbutton · · Score: 3, Informative

      +1 for this answer. Kanban is a great way to generate actually useful metrics for a team, project, or department. You'll be able to calculate things like how long it takes the average ticket to work its way through your processes, where tickets tend to get stuck (cumulative flow diagram), and where the sources of waste are in your processes.

      In addition to the book mentioned above, I also like this one by David Anderson: http://www.amazon.com/Kanban-Successful-Evolutionary-Technology-Business/dp/0984521402/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1324000945&sr=1-1

      I've led several teams using Kanban as a way to visualize our workflows and measured the cycle times for each work item through our processes. By driving out common causes of variance between work items, its possible to arrive at a consistent cycle time per item. You can then use any process improvement technique you like to show tangible improvements in cycle time.

      -- bab

  10. No Metrics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    There is no metrics system that can't be gamed.

    If you set it for "total tickets fixes" (higher=good): you just encourage people to report trivial problems you can fix easily.
    If you set it for "total tickets" (higher=bad): you refuse to do things, add features etc, or you make it hard to contact IT to log a fault
    If you set it for "time taken per ticket" (higher=bad): you end up pushing kludge solutions
    If you set it for "user rated response" (higher=good): you end up blackmailing the end users to rate you 10/10 otherwise their emails/logs/dirt etc get published and sent to boss/wife/etc

    Ask your manager how their performance is evaluated? Then start suggesting ways they could bust their KPIs, and they should get the drift.

    1. Re:No Metrics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or if you're less scrupulous...

      Total ticket fixes means I just close tickets early without a proper resolution, force them to open another if the problem still exists (it will).
      Total tickets means I just close the ticket early and continue to work on it, or I consolidate tickets into 1 ticket.
      Time taken per ticket means I just close tickets early, and move on, "What? The problem isn't fixed? Must be a different issue!"
      User rated response means I make sure they know this affects me, and that I will know what they submit, and then try to become friends.

      What I love is when management wants to use subjective measures, and wants me to rate myself. I then select the maximum ratings, almost across the board, a few would be less than max, but not much. This then makes it awkward for them to mark me significantly lower, as they'd be slamming it in my face, and calling my a liar. This means my ratings end up being on average higher than everyone else's. Hooray! More money!

      99% of the time, if you think you need metrics, you're doing it wrong.

      P.S. I know I'm an arsehole.

    2. Re:No Metrics by grcumb · · Score: 2

      If you set it for "total tickets" (higher=bad): you refuse to do things, add features etc, or you make it hard to contact IT to log a fault
      If you set it for "time taken per ticket" (higher=bad): you end up pushing kludge solutions
      If you set it for "user rated response" (higher=good): you end up blackmailing the end users to rate you 10/10 otherwise their emails/logs/dirt etc get published and sent to boss/wife/etc

      So... 'user-rated response' it is, then.

      Thanks!

      --
      Crumb's Corollary: Never bring a knife to a bun fight.
  11. Ahh, metrics, good. by DWMorse · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Metrics. Excellent, I hate when bosses use the Imperial system.

    All jokes aside: If you care about your job in this economic climate, I suggest you do what your 2 other teammates are doing - picking through the stats that make YOU look the best. The company isn't going to look out for you. IT is an expense to be cut, remember. Boosts the temporary bottom line, promotes "growth" in this fiscal quarter, gets the investors going so the CEO can shuffle another fold into his golden parachute. If non-important metrics are selected that sacrifice your job, it's a brief victory lap straight into the unemployment line.

    We can't answer your question, though. In the end, I recommend you watch a clip from "Office Space" - wherein the Bobs interview the employees:

    Bob: "So tell me, what is it, exactly, that you do here?"

    If you can't answer that question, you probably should be job hunting already. Or should have kept a copy of the job posting from when you applied.

    --
    There's a spot in User Info for World of Warcraft account names? Really?
  12. Metrics by mysidia · · Score: 1

    I have been tasked with logging our performance using the statistics from our ticket management system. I've also been tasked with comparing these stats and determining if we are performing above or below what is considered optimal.

    Standard ticketing system metrics are no good. Add a post-incident survey to your customer interactions. Your metrics don't measure performance, unless you can actually measure how 'hard' the ticket is intrinsically / what skill is required, and how well the ticket is solved.

    A good solution might prevent further issues, a bad solution might cause more issues to occur. The fewer IT support issues a customer has, the more each resolution was worth, because that indicates their problem was actually solved.

    Define a new metric: "Ticket importance" = Importance level given to the issue by the customer relative to the other issues.

    Define a new metric: "Customer Happiness" = Score given by the customer with the resolution of the issue, from 0% to 100%.

    Define a new metric: Revenue per Ticket = Revenue of applicable IT support Service Delivered per period of time divided by average Number of Trouble tickets for that service for the same period of time.

    Define a new metric: Ticket Weight = Rank of the ticket out of all other tickets issued by the service, as a percentage. 100% would indicate it's the only ticket that matters, 0% would indicate solving the ticket is not an accomplishment, e.g. wasted time

    Define a new metric: Ticket worth = Ticket Weight * Revenue per Ticket

    Define a new metric: Ticket resolution value = Ticket Worth * Customer Happiness.

    Sum the resolution value of all the tickets solved by IT support personnel. When multiple IT persons are involved in the same ticket, calculate total hours spent on the ticket, and divvy out the 'Resolution points' based on the amount of time spent on that ticket by each team member.

  13. For a team of 3 people? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Is shit broken?
    Does shit get fixed fairly quickly?
    Are your people busy, but not swamped?

  14. The answer lies in the past... by ChrisKnight · · Score: 1
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    -- This sig is only a test. If this were a real sig it would say something witty. --
  15. A good measurement.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ..... is how much failure they have!
    If shit is working, don't come bitching! Don't ask about shit you don't know shit about and do your job like you are doing yours!

  16. Easy, start by choosing what you need to change by colonel · · Score: 2

    - Percentage of staff with ITILv3 foundations certification: zero.

    I know this because of your question. Watch thes videos as a start: http://pmit.pl/en/it-management/free-itil-v3-course-collection-of-itil-v3-moviesdarmowe-szkolenie-itil-v3-zbior-filmikow-o-itil-v3/ -- and sell a formal training course to your management.

    The people joking about how one of you is getting fired, or you're all getting outsourced. . . probably true. Learning ITIL is all about learning what's important to your business stakeholders, how to monitor/measure these things, and how to make sure you're always making the right decisions based on the business priorities.

      If you can't convince them to pony up for you three to take the certification course, then pay for it out of your own pocket, you'll need it to find a new job.

  17. Look for a new job by multiben · · Score: 2

    Seriously. Once management fall under the belief that they can have reports automagically generated for them by measuring your working habits, you will never hear the end of it. Why does X have less keystrokes per hour than Y? You only committed 15 lines of code yesterday. You must not be working. Why did this junior employee fix 100 bugs, when this senior only fixed 10? And take a look at yesterday's topic too.

  18. Make up your own! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1. Create your own database, with a numeric field per employee, plus a comment field.
    2. Each time that employee does something stupid, enter a record with "-1" (or whatever value is appropriate) in their field. Enter a comment if you want.
    3. Each time that employee does something good, enter a record with a "+1", etc.
    4. This is better than just completely making up crap, since you have a record, and you can justify stuff if needed.

    After all, what's a bunch of meaningless statistics compared to what you really think? All you need is a way to keep track of the latter.

  19. !@#$ (rant follows) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And while you're all gathering metrics the real work isn't getting done. That'll help you look good. With an A-hole boss like that, you'd be better off floating your resume. Also, what definition of "optimal" are we talking about?

    1. Re:!@#$ (rant follows) by jtownatpunk.net · · Score: 1

      Bingo. This and the first post are the ones to pay attention to. Either nip this shit in the bud or get out of there. You're not going to be able to come up with meaningful "metrics" for a 3 person team. If I help ten people attach documents to emails before lunch and you spend all day helping a team optimize their new production process, who did more meaningful work? With crappy metrics, I did. I've got ten closed tickets and you've got one.

      You shouldn't need some complicated process to track and evaluate the work of three people. If there are three people and one of them isn't pulling their weight, all three know it.

      A tracking/ticketing system is one thing (and a good thing) because it lets everyone see what need to be done and make sure tasks don't fall through the cracks. But, if that data is going to be used to evaluate performance, someone's going to have to develop a "difficulty rating" system and sit there assigning difficulty ratings to every item that goes through the system. Otherwise, I'm going to look like the king of turd mountain because I'm closing dozens of simple tickets every week while you two do all the work.

  20. I work in a support center by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been an ISP call center supervisor and dealt with implementing goals and metrics, have worked in small IT depts, and currently working as a support engineer for business support.

    Your metrics are threefold:

    1) Phone metrics - this is how long people are on hold, average call length, abandon rate. Call length throw out the window. If you don't have a queuing system ignore phone metrics entirely
    2) Ticket system metrics - the only important automated metric is how fast you responded to incoming e-mails. Once a month the manager should randomly select some cases are review them with a scoring system you develop. This helps determine if you are helping customers properly or spend a lot of time ignoring them, etc.
    NOTE: It is useful to have ticket volume and average time per ticket from a perspective of sorting our if you need more staff based on volume, but it is not an individual metric.
    3) Satisfaction surveys. These are the only one that are valid for individuals. They should be sent out after a ticket is closed, not months later, and cover a variety of topics. Low scoring surveys need to be investigated and if needed thrown out (as often a user being told "no, it is against our policy" will give all low scores when in reality the tech did their job perfectly)

    In a 3 person IT dept you should know if the number of active tickets in increasing, decreasing, or holding steady. If it is increasing, you need more people. Holding steady you may be ok on personnel, but you may need more depending on responsibilities and how many hours you are working. Decreasing is good. It does not mean you should get rid of personnel though.

    Hide decreasing numbers from management. Insist different issues be different tickets and that "quick 30 second question" gets recorded. One of the reasons that metrics in a small center suck is that most of you are probably doing 2-3 small unrecorded tasks for each recorded one. Management does not see this. All they see is the ticket system.

    As for what is industry average numbers. There is no such thing. Each business is different and unique. You have to use historical information about ticket/case volume, active load levels, and phone call volume to generate your businesses numbers.

  21. call / ticket time is bad metrics by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    as not all ticket take the same time.

    Do want quick password resets to count the same as doing some think that needs a more time? like setup / reload a pc?

    1. Re:call / ticket time is bad metrics by DarthBart · · Score: 5, Informative

      I got written up once because my ticket stats were radically different than the other people on my team. 15% lower "total time on tickets" but 20% more tickets closed. I was apparently fudging numbers and closing unresolved tickets.

      Fortunately, a trip to HR with a ream of printouts from closed tickets proved otherwise.

      Still left the company a few months later.

    2. Re:call / ticket time is bad metrics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      To "Reload" a PC can be done over the phone, and should take about the same amount of time as a password reset:

      1) Tell the user the magic keyboard combination to initiate a PXE restore
      2) Wait for user to confirm that the PXE restore has started.
      3) There is no step three.

      If it's any more involved than that, then there's something wrong with your Windows admins.

    3. Re:call / ticket time is bad metrics by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

      but what if you have to reload per user apps? (even in places with systems to uses install apps some apps need a admin to ok the install that may be apps with limited # of keys or apps that only some users need) / or have to wait for it to get all updates loaded or other BS like that system must be up and ready to go be for that ticket can be closed. What if it's a hardware fail and some needed to be swapped.

      Just saying a password reset and seeing that the use can now long in should not be on the same level as other tickets.

  22. Add something by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 3, Informative

    Your ticketing system needs or needs to have added an automatic followup to the customers. The system sends out an email after every ticket asking "Did the problem get resolved in a reasonable amount of time? Did the IT staff respond in a way that enabled you to get back to work?" Nothing more complex than that, though you can parse things out by ticket priority (though deciding what's a higher priority than other things is, just by itself, a major undertaking).

    Your goal should be to increase the percentage of positive responses.

    Why this touchy-feely stuff instead of a hard metric? Easy. There are no metrics that work in your situation. It's quite easy to argue that there are no metrics that work, period.

    By adding this email feedback to your ticketing system, you have met the requirement to come up with a metric derived from the ticketing system.

    Selling this to management can be simple, depending on how you handle it. Something along the lines of "Given that the IT staff is so idiotically understaffed, we must be given the agility to solve problems instead of meeting random metrics. Only our customers can know if we met their needs, considering all pertinent factors. Someday, when we actually have enough people and money to divide work more rigidly, we can add metrics like timeliness of ticket closure, etc." Then you hope they never notice that you never divvy up the work rigidly. All of this requires having an IT manager who is dedicated to the inescapable truth - that their function is to keep the MBAs off your ass and let you do your job.

    I've worked where my performance was measured in this way. It can be heaven.

    One more thing - if your upper management doesn't already have faith in you, they'll never go for it. They need to already appreciate your contribution to go along with this. The very fact that they're asking for metrics tends to suggest they don't sufficiently appreciate you now. If that's the case, than all I can say is that I've worked under those circumstances, too, and my heart goes out to you.

    1. Re:Add something by Jaime2 · · Score: 1

      This is too easy to game. I used to work at a training center where our most important metric was post-class evaluations. One day, some brainiac decided that merit raises would be decided solely on evaluation scores. From that day on, nobody got under 95% on evaluations and the difference between the best and the worst was statistically insignificant. If you want honest metrics, you have to collect them for their own sake and not actually use them. As soon as you tie incentives and punishments to them, the people being measured start spending all of their waking hours figuring out how to artificially inflate them. The only good metric is a metric that you want employees to game, like "Units Produced That Pass QC per Hour".

      If you're wondering how we did it, we used to do the following:
      1. Force students to hand the evaluation to us after they fill them out. The easiest way to do this was to trade evaluations for certificates. Simply tell them that you have to do it this way because their feedback is important and it's the only way to ensure that everyone turns in an evaluation.
      2. Say the following as you pass out evaluations; "Your feedback is very important to us. We don't simply want to know that we aren't doing an excellent job, we need to know how to remedy our shortcomings. So, please, if you give me any score below the highest score, include a detailed comment so I know exactly what I need to improve." 90% of students would give you perfect scores simply because they didn't want to write any comments.
      3. Use the specific wording on the evaluation during class. For example, if one of the evaluation ratings is "Used Analogies Effectively", then make sure to lead off any analogy with the phrase "I good analogy for this might be ...".
      4. Be a pretty girl and flirt. Seriously, our worst instructor got the highest evaluation scores. However, her scores had a strong positive correlation to the percentage of male students in her classes. I did the math once, the correlation was at least r=0.8. Lucky for her IT training students are predominantly male.

      If you are ever in a training class and hear any of these things, give the instructor down the middle scores for being an evaluation-whore.

    2. Re:Add something by sanbik · · Score: 1
    3. Re:Add something by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 1

      Good points, all. Even when I was judged in the way I described, I often attended classes where all the dynamics you've described were present.

      However, I should expand a bit on my original post.

      First, I wasn't handing out eval forms. The feedback in question was done via a simple up-or-down, check-the-box, binary response to the follow-up email. The users got to say "yes" or "no" and that was all they got to say.

      Second, if you picked up a "no" response, the boss would stop by and ask why. She eventually figured out which users were PITAs and gave a "no" response to everybody. She took your word for it if you had a reasonable explanation regarding external factors that caused a problem. And if the "no" responses started to pile up, she'd investigate further. Specifically, this manager kept an open request to every user group manager to attend group meetings. Most didn't invite her except occasionally. Groups that felt they weren't getting good service were more likely to ask her to drop in. Finally, she pretty much forced her way into some group meetings.

      Bottom line - our manager spent at least one hour with each of our users (usually in a group meeting setting) every year. If we weren't meeting their needs, she heard about it. She had all the info she needed to improve processes, make apologies, explain, or, occasionally, chew on our butts.

      With smart management, I firmly believe that user feedback is the only IT performance metric that really counts. After all, our job is nothing more than to get them back to work, hopefully with better tools as time passes. Everything else is secondary. For this to work, your boss must be committed to shielding you from the idiots in the organization (both management and dumb users, alike) and must really enjoy talking to end users and gaining the understanding that those conversations bring, however painful that knowledge may occasionally be.

    4. Re:Add something by Jaime2 · · Score: 1

      That's easy to game. IT is generally the "say no" department, so if you need to have someone talk you up to the boss, simply turn off the FaceBook filter for someone while you're working on a ticket. Or maybe do shoddy work on the PITA users because their feedback is going to be ignored anyways so you have extra time to bring coffee to one of the more respected users. There are a ton of things you can do to elevate the metric without actually doing better work. On the other side of the coin, being rude is a near guarantee that you will get horrible feedback. I'm not saying it's OK to be rude to people, but I am saying that politeness is over-represented in satisfaction metrics to the point where incompetent but good-natured people will never get poor feedback, even if they never solve a single problem.

    5. Re:Add something by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 1

      Some of that wouldn't work in my former (I recently retired) job. For example:

      ...if you need to have someone talk you up to the boss, simply turn off the FaceBook filter for someone while you're working on a ticket...

      would not have worked at my employer. Security policy was determined by the security folks, not the frontline support. No matter how much I wanted to bribe someone, I couldn't make any configuration change that violated policy. The best I've ever done is toss in a little more educational time for a user, to wit: "No, you're not allowed to use your home printer with your work computer and I won't install it for you. However, I realize you're going to try it. If you do, this image-preinstalled print driver is probably the one that will work with the printer you own."

      For various reasons, I think that customer feedback is the best single metric when you have a manager who understands customer service enough to not get buffaloed by BS-slingers in IT or pushy customers. Clearly, though, no metric is perfect.

      And just as clearly, you've spent a great deal of time working among people who expend a great deal of effort to avoid the small amount of effort required to do an acceptably good job. I feel for you.

  23. Doomed from the start by lucm · · Score: 3, Insightful

    > determining if we are performing above or below what is considered optimal

    Scenario 1: you are below optimal -> you are inefficient so they replace you
    Scenario 2: you are above optimal -> you are overkill so they replace you

    Bottom line, I would rent The Wire and learn how to "juke the stats" because that's the only way you won't get to jump on that grenade.

    Been there, done that - my advice: be just under optimal so you have room to grow and show improvement, but don't be too low so they don't feel the need to consider a business case for outsourcing.

    --
    lucm, indeed.
  24. Superoptimal?? by Jimbob+The+Mighty · · Score: 1

    Optimal being 'Best possible', how does one perform above what is optimal? You are either perfect (optimal) or not perfect (sub-optimal).

    1. Re:Superoptimal?? by Warwick+Allison · · Score: 0

      Well, for example, working 18 hours days is above optimal. Is this so hard for younger retards than me to work out?

    2. Re:Superoptimal?? by Jimbob+The+Mighty · · Score: 1

      Point taken...sometimes more is less.

  25. figure out your goals first by ronpaulisanidiot · · Score: 0

    you can set the goals of your stats ahead of time if you're clever. make it your goal to find many long-term problems, to ensure that your tiny department won't be axed too soon. otherwise if you show a great record of solving problems quickly, you will be rewarded by being downsized.

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  27. Customer Satisfaction? by Above · · Score: 2

    I'm not with most IT management on this one, but I always thought the best metric was customer satisfaction. For instance every time I open a ticket with Cisco I get a survey at the end of like 5 questions. Was my problem resolved, was the person polite, etc.

    The other metrics suggested are things to graph and look at trends. Are repair times getting worse or better? Is the average time per ticket going up or down? They are great int he aggregate. They break down quickly when divided. Only one guy on your team knows network devices, so he gets all the network devices which include the 8 hour fiber cuts, so his times always are worse than the guys fixing printer problems, as an example. You have to be very careful as you start to divide them up.

    At the end of the day though you're trying to make the customer happy. Track it, and see how your staff is doing. If people are happy with their IT support, your department will be seen in a more positive light.

  28. how to survive in the corporate environment by decora · · Score: 5, Insightful

    1. make your numbers.

    nobody actually cares what 'the numbers' are, or if they actually mean anything. but you have to make them.

    you might ask yourself - isn't this a huge waste of time? isn't it completely counter productive? doesn't it actually decrease efficiency? aren't the metrics measuring completely the wrong thing? as the slashdot story the other day said, aren't bad metrics actually worse than no metrics, because they cause people to do inane, wasteful things to make their numbers?

    well, your problem is that you are asking yourself. in a corporate environment, do not ask. just do.

    just make the numbers.

    hopefully, if you get good enough at 'making your numbers', you will have time left over to actually do some work.

    2. but what about the theory of capitalism, the free market, efficiency, etc?

    its all bullshit. just like the theory of communism was bullshit. what statistics and 'numbers' were reported to the government were just flat out garbage. people somehow managed to make the system work through personal relationships and working-around the assholse in charge. but most of the theories it was built on have no resemblance to reality. think about it - if efficiency really made for the best corporation, why would you be spending 4 hours a week filling out meaningless statistical performance reports that nobody will ever read, let alone understand?

    the only difference between the soviet union and 'the west' is that 'the west' still hasnt collapsed yet.

    1. Re:how to survive in the corporate environment by subreality · · Score: 2

      the only difference between the soviet union and 'the west' is that 'the west' still hasnt collapsed yet.

      It will. People looking at the inner structure have known it for a while. Now the cracks are starting to show on the surface where anyone can see them. It won't be long.

      If you are brave try to look past how you're going to survive the collapse: try to plan how you will help rebuild it better.

    2. Re:how to survive in the corporate environment by Splab · · Score: 1

      Go ask Hugo Chavez, he has some very noble ideas and they seem to work.

    3. Re:how to survive in the corporate environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He's got warmed-over bullshit. We're currently feasting on fresh bullshit, thank you very much.

      G. K. Chesterton had some good ideas; pity nobody listened to him.

    4. Re:how to survive in the corporate environment by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1. make your numbers.

      nobody actually cares what 'the numbers' are, or if they actually mean anything. but you have to make them.

      This reminds me of a project where I was involved in collecting and vetting developer estimates for planned future work. I was sitting next to the project manager, looking at the spreadsheet with all estimates, and noticed it was different from my fresh print out. While we were looking at it, the estimates changed, right before our eyes!

      ... turns out one of the developers had put in Excel-formulas for his estimates... using the random-function.

      So the lesson is: If you're making numbers up, remember to copy/paste values-only afterwards. :)

      (Posting AC in case any of the guilty are reading this...)

  29. so if i build an incredibly shitty IT system by decora · · Score: 1

    where people are constantly calling me asking to fix stuff, then my numbers will be awesome!

    god, capitalism is awesome.

    1. Re:so if i build an incredibly shitty IT system by mysidia · · Score: 1

      where people are constantly calling me asking to fix stuff, then my numbers will be awesome!

      I think you missed the part where total IT service revenue for that application is divided by the number of tickets. The more tickets for a specific IT service, the less the issue resolution is worth.

      The fewer total tickets for that service, the more each resolution is worth.

    2. Re:so if i build an incredibly shitty IT system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      where people are constantly calling me asking to fix stuff, then my numbers will be awesome!

      I think you missed the part where total IT service revenue for that application is divided by the number of tickets.
      The more tickets for a specific IT service, the less the issue resolution is worth.

      The fewer total tickets for that service, the more each resolution is worth.

      So, the solution is to copy UNIX poorly. Build a large number of small shitty systems. Then you can have each ticket be the only ticket for that small piece.

  30. Customer Satisfaction by jwkane · · Score: 2

    The only truly meaningful metric is customer satisfaction. After each ticket is closed send a survey email to the user. If your team plows through enough tickets you get a statistically significant success % per tech that you can compare to the other techs.

    Without knowing a lot more about the nature of tickets it is hard to give a better response. It might be very important to gauge the difficulty (trivial-hard) and novelty (common-rare) of tickets but it could also be a waste of time. Does one tech plow through dozens of tickets a day or a few? Are the techs specialized? Anything email related goes to joe, hardware issues to tom, etc.. Are the tickets auto-generated from emails, called in or do they fill out a web form?

    Given the size of the team the company thinks 1) you aren't getting the job done, 2) one or more people on the team are dead weight or 3) you are overworked and need more people. I wouldn't bet on #3.

    1. Re:Customer Satisfaction by CockMonster · · Score: 1

      Umm, i must say that after dealing with our IT dept the last thing I want to do is fill out a survey for them

    2. Re:Customer Satisfaction by Jaime2 · · Score: 1

      So, you do a half-assed job, but remove their firewall restrictions and install a few games while you are at it. Instant satisfaction ratings while simultaneous not getting work done. As soon as a whiff of a mediocre satisfaction report comes in, the hammer comes down and everybody realizes that as long as they keep filling in "excellent" on the surveys, the party can continue.
      All help desk metrics are useless. The best guy should be assigned the hardest cases, but that pushes his numbers down. Level three gets all of the impossible cases and is the final word when the answer is "no", so they get lower satisfaction ratings. Cheery chick that closes 20% of her calls, but is very pleasant to listen to and is very nice while transferring 80% of her calls to level two gets stellar ratings. The grumpy guy who has zero social skills, but has memorized every support resolution in the database and gets people off the phone with their problem solved buy saying "moron" and hanging up on them is the biggest productivity booster in the entire company, but he makes people feel bad about themselves, so he gets fired.
      I got talked to one time for having a ticket open for two years. The ticket was for a real bug the really did negatively impact the user. However, it was never a high enough impact to get a manager to sign off on the change control to get it implemented. My boss coerced me into closing the ticket with a nebulous resolution because his manager didn't like what it did to the numbers. In summary, the people who review and judge the numbers asked for the numbers to be fudged so that they would be happy with the numbers when they reviewed them.

  31. Metrics - A lazy manager's out every time. by LazLong · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Falling back to metrics is a lazy manager's way of proving to her superiors that her drones are operating at peak efficiency. The most lazy of all will rely on utterly meaningless metrics such as the number of help tickets closed per day, per individual per day, etc. A metric such as this is completely useless as all tickets don't require an equal amount of effort to complete. Diagnosing a problem due to an intermittent hardware issue doesn't take the same amount of effort as helping a user change their password. Unfortunately these types of issues generally comprise the vast majority of tickets generated and therefore often end up being the ones that are 'measured. ' This often leads to a drop in morale and thereby negatively impacts performance; ironically the opposite of what the whole exercise is attempting to accomplish.

    Trouble ticket data is primarily useful for detecting trends, thereby helping an IT team appropriately focus their human capital on issues that will enable their users to be more efficient. Going back to the password issue above, the speed and alacrity with which the IT staff help users change their passwords isn't a useful metric at all. A more meaningful metric would be the frequency of password change requests before and after the installation of a self-service password reset solution that was put in place in response to the analysis of help ticket data that showed that this was one of the most frequent issues and one that could be easily solved with little effort and financial expenditure. Measuring a sharp drop in password reset requests would show that the solution worked and was therefore beneficial to the organization by enabling users to help themselves, resulting in their having more time to concentrate on their primary tasks, and also by allowing IT staff to allocate their resources on issues that are less amenable to resolution via automation.

    Unfortunately, in my experience, ticket systems get used to determine useless metrics such as the first example mentioned above, and therefore end up being the bane of IT staff, rather than a useful analytical tool.

  32. Hmm by lightknight · · Score: 1

    While not a standard metric, consider the amount of time you spend planning and implementing upgrades to your infrastructure, as opposed to the amount of time spent supporting it. In a healthy company, the weight is towards planning and implementing upgrades to your infrastructure, where not a day passes that a new piece of equipment isn't being delivered. Why, you ask? Because it shows that there are enough people to handle the daily problems adequately, freeing up others to plan for several months (or years) into the future...to deliver a feature before it is requested, to move the network to a faster speed before you hit bottlenecks, to ensure that people spend more time completing their work on their machines than waiting for their machine to finish a task or complete an upload / download. To take time consuming, menial tasks away from the workers, and free them up to pursue tasks that might bring in more money for the company.

    In an unhealthy company, you spend more of your time dreaming about upgrades. You end up taking care of old, inefficient equipment, and are stuck in meetings, trying to explain why a minor upgrade can have a large impact to a group of people who are 'too busy' to learn anything more technical than messaging on their Blackberrys / iPhones, which they do while you speak. You don't have enough people to perform adequate daily support, and plan for future upgrades (which may require several hours of research, and speaking with vendors on the phone, to get a proper quote; on top of studying new technology or attending a training course). If you've hit a bottleneck in the last several months for any feature on a computer / network, and you're not Google / IBM / someone playing with a supercomputer, you're doing it wrong.

    But then, you get what you pay for. If you are a company like this, leave. The company isn't going to grow, the culture is dead, and you have a chance to short the stock before the collapse. They'll keep switching CEOs / figureheads, and merging, but that kind of corporate culture is like a virus. See what happened to HP when Compaq merged with them.

       

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  33. Done in one by Weaselmancer · · Score: 4, Funny

    Seriously I just have to say that this is the single funniest comment I've ever read on Slashdot. Laughing, pointing at the screen, drug my wife over here to have her read it funny. Brutal. Absolutely brutal.

    From one cynical bastard to another, I salute you.

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    1. Re:Done in one by ohnocitizen · · Score: 1

      "drug my wife over here to have her read it funny" - It is a hilarious comment, but did you have to slip your wife a little meth/crack soup just to hear her read it in her "zombie donald duck" voice?

    2. Re:Done in one by turing_m · · Score: 5, Funny

      You cynical man. For all you know, upper management have a budget flush with cash and have singled out someone in the hard working but unacknowledged IT department for a raise and a promotion.

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    3. Re:Done in one by nahdude812 · · Score: 4, Informative

      You cynical man. For all you know, upper management have a budget flush with cash and have singled out someone in the hard working but unacknowledged IT department for a raise and a promotion.

      Don't forget the free pony.

    4. Re:Done in one by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      I did the same thing yesterday. I think it might have been the first time I read a Slashdot story or comment to my wife.

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    5. Re:Done in one by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
  34. Metrics Suck (except one) by thatkid_2002 · · Score: 1

    Customer/User satisfaction. If problems are solved in a reasonable way (in terms of time considering your workload, budget and expertise) then that's the only thing management should care about. You're not running a support call center where your job is to read solutions from pre-written scripts - you're solving real problems with real people. There is no script.

    Management should be surveying their employees and your reports and work out if more people are needed to do general support. Are you finding time to do project work? If no, then maybe they need to hire somebody to keep users off your back a few hours a day while you do projects.

    1. Re:Metrics Suck (except one) by supremebob · · Score: 1

      Nope, that doesn't work either. By rating tech support people on user satisfaction, you're basically asking them to beg/bribe/coerce their users into giving them a high satisfaction rating in order to save their jobs.

      The best example of this would be my local Audi dealer...Audi only gives bonuses to staff that gets a 5 out of 5 customer rating, so they practically beg their customers to either give them a perfect rating or to not to bother rating them at all. How are you supposed to give a honest review after hearing that, knowing that you're basically screwing the person out of their bonus if you give them a "4" rating for ANY aspect of your visit?

      You would think that the talented technicians would get the higher support ratings, but in reality the technicians who are the best at schmoozing their users will get them.

    2. Re:Metrics Suck (except one) by JakartaDean · · Score: 1

      Customer/User satisfaction. If problems are solved in a reasonable way (in terms of time considering your workload, budget and expertise) then that's the only thing management should care about. You're not running a support call center where your job is to read solutions from pre-written scripts - you're solving real problems with real people. There is no script

      That still doesn't necessarily work. My recent experience: I am a senior manager in a non-IT job. I needed access to our SAP system, so asked for an id/password combination, which got kicked to our regional support center in another country. I eventually received a ticket stating that it would be done within 5 business days. I got it, 4.9 business days later. When they asked me how satisfied I was, I said it seemed like a long time for a trivial task. They wrote back saying that the SLA for an id & password is 5 business days, so everything was fine.

      End of year, I was asked for my overall satisfaction with the regional support centre -- could I please fill in an online questionnaire? I did so, except for a few fields asking for my satisfaction with a bunch of services I have never used. I couldn't submit the form because it refused to accept it with any fields left blank. I am bitterly dissatisfied with these guys, but I can't even use their tool to indicate my dissatisfaction anonymously. And given their professionalism, that's the only way I want to do it.

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    3. Re:Metrics Suck (except one) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to look no further than eBay. Both the customers and the employees operate on positive feedback. If you don't give a seller positive feedback, they retaliate. If you email eBay, and you give the representative bad feedback, they will also retaliate passively by making sure your emails get sent to the outsourcers in the philippines, because there is a hole in their routing system. Every time an email is redirected to another country, it starts over as a new email, resetting the metrics. God how I hated those philippines outsourcers bouncing tickets they didn't want to handle. You'd occasionally come accross emails that have been bouncing for well over a month. Because redirecting emails don't count in metrics.

      In a help desk environment, the same thing happens. As pointed out a few times already, if the metrics are based on positive user experience surveys, then you are going to either have blackmailing going on, or you're going to have "the asshole" people who ask for help put into the lowest priority.

      Guess what. If there are metrics at all, they need to be geared to taking ownership and tracking fault trends. They should be used to punish or reward your employees. If someone is a bad employee, it will show up as coworkers complaining about them not taking ownership. This is much preferred to the work-avoidance that happens when you use quantity or time-based metrics.

    4. Re:Metrics Suck (except one) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Customer Satisfaction is the only metric that matters for an IT department.

    5. Re:Metrics Suck (except one) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Other car dealerships do it too. The one I worked at had a similar bonus system, but it was all coming down from the manufacturer, as product distribution was based off the customer satisfaction surveys. It wasn't unusual for salesmen to offer something free to the customer in exchange for their blank survey.

  35. MOD PARENT UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    there is wisdom in that statement...

  36. umm... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    is it possible to perform "above optimal" ?!?

    1. Re:umm... by Maritz · · Score: 1

      In the abstract sense where 'above' means 'better' I'd say no; if you were to say a certain speed is 'above' optimal, or a certain temperature is 'above optimal' then I'd imagine that's OK. But "better than the best" is nonsensical, so to 'perform' above optimal..? For me that doesn't make sense.

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  37. Turnaround time by pablodiazgutierrez · · Score: 1

    If you have to go down that path, I'd go with TAT. Simple to measure even over old data, hard to game consistently, and closely related to customer impact. If you want to, weigh it by customer-perceived severity of each request so that people don't boost their numbers by cherry picking easy tickets.

  38. Exactly. by Weaselmancer · · Score: 1

    I found this gem in the other metrics thread the other day.

    -2000 lines of code.

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  39. What really matters by dark+grep · · Score: 1

    There is only one metric that really matters, and that is what your users think. You can collect all the stats you want, and put whatever spin you like on the figures, but if your users think you suck, then in the view of 99% of the company, you suck.

    So my suggestion is; do what Cisco and other customer focused companies do, and for every ticket closed, send a satisfaction survey to the user. Don't make it long, it only has to be 4-7 questions where they rate the key things you did on a scale of 1-5, and should take the user less than 2 minutes to complete.

    Then, you will have incredibly meaningful stats to show the good work you are doing. Or, you will have the precise information that shows what you need to do to get recognized for doing good work.

    Just think about it., what is better:

    a. For the last month there were 82.5% if tickets were resolved within the department KPI target,

    or

    b. For the last month 82.5% of staff indicated they were happy or very happy with IT support

  40. Tickets don't matter, users opinion do by dirk · · Score: 1

    The best answer is to not use tickets as your metric. I worked at a smaller company and our metric was a simple yearly user survey. We would ask what they thought of their equipment, the how the support team did (response time, niceness, knowledge, etc) and even took it so far as to ask for suggestions on what could be improved. In the end, how many tickets you close really doesn't matter. What matters is how happy your users are. If you are doing the job correctly, the majority of your users will at least be satisfied, if not happy. If the majority are unhappy, this will give you specific ideas on areas you can improve on.

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  41. Not enough info by koan · · Score: 1

    1: You didn't give enough information on what you support to get an accurate answer.
    2: You shouldn't be the one evaluating your own own job (see very first post)
    3: Here are several common metrics which may or may not apply to your situation as they were pulled from a couple of very large corporations metrics system.
    CSAT: customer satisfaction based on automatically emailed surveys
    AHT: average handle time, or the time you spent on the phone resolving the issue
    ACW: average call waiting or how long did they have to be on hold to talk to you
    Call Resolution: self explanatory
    Logging: how much did you actually log in tickets to the number of calls received.

    It gets pretty granular after this with things like "overall satisfaction" "agent expertise" (you're the agent) "agent listening"

    One last thing, I actually snorted reading the first post because I had an "Office Space" flash back, time to hide your red Swingline.

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  42. Metrics which truly gauge performance. by pgward · · Score: 1

    Some metrics have been shown to be clear indicators of good performance in IT teams. Hopefully the following equations are clear enough. 1./ Number of metrics minus number of metrics known by employees 2./ Time in day minus time spent on developing metrics 3./ Number of metrics forgotten divided by Number of managers who care about metrics

  43. You get what you reward, not good work by perpenso · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Time to answer call, time to resolve ticket, abandoned tickets (unresolved).

    In business school it is a common theme in various classes that you get what you reward, not what you ask for, not what is necessarily best for the organization. Here is a highly relevant Dilbert cartoon illustrating this point, http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/1995-11-13/.

    The underlying problem is that metrics applied to humans leads to people working towards the metrics, not necessarily doing good work. It is a classic environment for unintended consequences. Its not even that the people are necessarily being opportunistic, there is also a certain amount of practicality. If you are being measured by some metric and keeping your job or getting a raise is dependent upon that metric you may quite rationally decide to act to that metric rather than what is necessarily in the best interest of customers.

    Are you measured by resolved tickets? Then tickets will get resolved quickly. Not necessarily thoroughly, completely, or robustly resolved. Which leads to related followup tickets because of a minimal effort put into resolving the original ticket. I saw this in a programming environment where the tickets consisted of new features or bug fixes.

    Are you measured by abandoned tickets? Then tickets will get resolved, even if they don't reasonably deserve to be considered resolved. You will get things unnecessarily classified as "unable to duplicate", "insufficient information", etc.

    In these two examples, where is the difficulty of the task factored in? Not all task, tickets, are equivalent. Furthermore sometimes there are external dependencies, a part is being shipped, where is this factored in?

    The metrics you offer are reminiscent of stats from call centers. There such metrics are a little more reasonable, not perfect but perhaps OK, given that the calls are somewhat equivalent in the amount of effort required, a small number of minutes not hours, and that they are randomly assigned. Over the period of say a month the large number of calls handled by any operator will resemble a normal curve with respect to effort required. For an IT organization the evaluation period may need to be some number of years to get to a normal curve with respect to effort required.

    1. Re:You get what you reward, not good work by inviolet · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Are you measured by abandoned tickets? Then tickets will get resolved, even if they don't reasonably deserve to be considered resolved. You will get things unnecessarily classified as "unable to duplicate", "insufficient information", etc.

      I experienced a form of this phenomenon just this afternoon, albeit not in an IT environment...

      I went to Bank of America to (proudly) close my accounts, having moved to a smaller and thoroughly more moral bank. The customer service rep figured it out right away when he saw that my six ~18-year-old accounts now all had zero balance, and zero activity for the past month. So we start closing. He is doing the keyboarding and mousing while I am watching the screen.

      At a certain point in the process of closing each account, the rep is required to give the reason for account closure. In the popup list of reasons are some very relevant choices: 'Service' and 'Competition' sprang out as the correct choices. He chose 'Misc', and for the sub-reason chose 'Bank of America Consolidation', whatever the hell THAT meant.

      It was then that I knew there had been a memo from headquarters, probably last month, that said "We know people are closing their accounts. Management wants to make sure that the reason is NOT people leaving in disgust, headed to our competitors." And so now the CEO can stand up and say "We've only lost 1% of our accounts to the competition!"

      Just this afternoon that happened, right in front of me. I almost laughed out loud.

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    2. Re:You get what you reward, not good work by mrt_2394871 · · Score: 1

      Where I work, a rule was recently introduced whereby holiday requests would only be authorised for an employee if their timesheet submissions were up to date. So now we can book our holidays in January and ignore timesheets until next year.

  44. Amateurs by jotaeleemeese · · Score: 1

    I can only imagine that most people replying with derision about metrics have never been in the position of having to justify what they are doing, and when they have been they have acted dishonestly.

    People that actually work in the real world, with real companies with real budgets, and that have some self respect, honesty and pride in what they do will have to justify their salaries or rates somehow, and one of the tools used is some kind of metrics.

    A professional will find metrics that are meaningful to both their team and their bosses or paymasters, and contrary to what most people are implying here, they can be quite useful to identify reasons for which a team is overworked and maybe bring somebody else on board.

    It should also be pointed out that proper metrics may point to a team that is overstaffed, but an honest professional should not fear this since drawing a salary for doing nothing is frankly not my idea of a honest day's work (those people asking to make up or game the metrics simply are unethical, if you think metrics are a sham then do please suggest how you intend to evaluate obejectively if you are becoming better or worst at doing your job).

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    1. Re:Amateurs by russotto · · Score: 1

      I can only imagine that most people replying with derision about metrics have never been in the position of having to justify what they are doing, and when they have been they have acted dishonestly.

      No, just the opposite. The people who have never been in that position probably don't understand why there's so much derision. The people who act dishonestly aren't derisive at all; they're busy writing themselves a new minivan.

      People that actually work in the real world, with real companies with real budgets, and that have some self respect, honesty and pride in what they do will have to justify their salaries or rates somehow, and one of the tools used is some kind of metrics.

      Actually, those of us with self respect, honesty, and pride in what we do tend to get our back up when "Bob" shows up and demands we justify ourselves ("So, what exactly do you DO here?"). It's insulting to both one's sense of pride and self respect. When metrics are introduced which are so obviously easily gamed, the reaction from an honest, proud, and self-respectful person is to continue to do what they do anyway (knowing that it's the right thing to do, and often naively figuring management can't be serious) and let the metric fall where it will. The reaction from person with more ambition than self-respect will be to game the metric. Guess who gets laid off?

      A professional will find metrics that are meaningful to both their team and their bosses or paymasters, and contrary to what most people are implying here, they can be quite useful to identify reasons for which a team is overworked and maybe bring somebody else on board.

      Finding meaningful metrics is actually quite difficult. Finding metrics that remain meaningful once you start using them is nigh impossible.

    2. Re:Amateurs by mysidia · · Score: 1

      People that actually work in the real world, with real companies with real budgets, and that have some self respect, honesty and pride in what they do will have to justify their salaries or rates somehow, and one of the tools used is some kind of metrics.

      Ticket system "metrics" are problematic for IT, because every support issue is unique.

      IT support matters are not uniform commodities -- you can't measure the efficiency of a knowledge worker the same way you can measure the efficiency of a physical worker, such as a restaurant cook or cashier -- number of burgers made per hour, or number of items scanned at the register per hour might be valid ways of judging performance for menial tasks in those industries.

      Such things are 'uniformly sized units of work', which means they are comparable. A chef who can make 1000 burgers an hour has definitely done more work than a chef who made 700 burgers per hour.

      But an IT support worker who resolved 10 tickets in an hour, has not necessarily done any more work and does not necessarily have any more skill than a representative who has closed 2 tickets in an hour.

      That is, you have a fundamental issue, when there is nothing valid to measure.

  45. Try personal experience by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yes, good metrics are useful. But you only have three employees. Don't you, I dunno, know them? It isnt hard to figure out who sucks and who doesnt when you only have two other people you work with.

  46. I just can't add anything to that by bfwebster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Might as well close the comments now. :-)

    Go look up Robert Austin's book on measurements and management. Read it and recognize that you've been given a task that is at best counterproductive and at worst impossible. Dust off your resume, because it may be more than one of you that are getting fired. ..bruce..

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    1. Re:I just can't add anything to that by jsmith0523 · · Score: 1

      I second this book.

      For a small group like yours the best metrics are no metrics. Most people intuitively know what tasks are important to do their job well, and if not then a good manager can easily tell who is not doing their job.

      If you don't have an alternative, then (1) make sure that you measure every important aspect of the IT job and (2) make sure you aggregate your team's measurements before giving them out. Giving individual metrics to management is dangerously misleading. Read the book!

  47. Nagios + Redmine by rwa2 · · Score: 1

    Nagios isn't too difficult to set up to monitor lots of things, and lots of useful uptime metrics for every service, planned and unplanned maintenance, etc. fall out quite naturally from it. And you can kinda just keep adding modules to it into it and grow it until it's full of awesome.

    I haven't personally used Redmine yet, but have been using Trac and everyone seems to agree that Redmine is the clear successor in terms of lightweight but capable trouble-ticket / project / task management systems.

  48. Convert the metrics to money by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As a previous commenter suggested, you should use metrics that will increase the performance of the IT department. Remember, you get what you measure.

    So, what you should do is this:

    Use the number of tickets prevented as a metric.
    Then, in the report for your boss, calculate the average amount of time that each ticket takes, and multiply that by the average hourly wage.
    Then for one of the metrics you can use the amount of money each employee has saved the company.

    Assuming the figures look good, and they probably will (after all, thats the power of statistics, you can make them seem to support any course of action) your boss will probably be quite impressed by the performance of EVERYONE in your department, and suddenly you all would seem more essential.

  49. Metrics are Good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sorry, but I'm biased. I love metrics. I hate how some people misuse metrics, but when used properly they are awesome tools.

    Anyhow, you want to measure the number of calls, average time on a call, average call waiting, calls transferred, calls abandoned, service desk availability, call severity, and categorization of call. With a small shop, you need to look at what else you do outside of support calls.

    Ideally, you'd use the statistics to find trends. Like say, you find a particular printer brand breaks more often than others. So you can switch manufacturers. I have never turned to statistics to fire someone. Instead I review this information to see how we can improve.

    Another important factor is user satisfaction. I send out bi-annual questionnaires to our users, since perception counts more than about anything else. For help-desk, the users are the customers. So I view customer satisfaction as extremely important and tie these reviews to bonuses (not call statistics).

    Finally, I would suggest you have each member rate each other and themselves.

    Chances are, you don't have the metrics in place for it to accurately measure what you really need. So, I'd start with surveys of your users.

    One final note, 1 IT person per 100 users is a good ratio. Anything less and you will experience downtime (or experience a high amount of outsourcing). Make sure they see what financial detriment losing a person would yield. Find out if they are looking to cut costs and if that's the case, look for ways to do that. Whether it's your cell phone bill, network bill, amount outsourced, hardware leases, etc.

  50. Re:My point exactly! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    mean time to resolution
    mean time between failure

    Check a hard drive manufacturers website and every one will list a mtbf for their drives. That one is a standard.

  51. Easy Metric! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Determine the cost of hiring an outside consultant ($100/hr to $250/hour, depending on country and regions within that country), then show how much less you cost the company! Then again, as an outside consultant, I do the same amount of work in 4 hours that a regular employee does in 8 ;-)

  52. My metrics by slashmydots · · Score: 5, Funny

    Well, when they say small, I'm the sole IT worker and thus the IT Manager at a 4 server, 40 workstation business so my only metrics are: I didn't make them spend a bunch of money, nothing lit on fire, I didn't quit. That's seriously about it and this quarter, I got all but the middle one but I wasn't the one who ordered that HP workstation, nor would I have, so it's sort of a gray area lol.

    1. Re:My metrics by jezwel · · Score: 1

      hmm you should be replacing at least 1 server and 10+ workstations a year. One w/s per month with the the exception of the end of financial year and your major holiday should do it ;)

  53. Here's what you should do... by certain+death · · Score: 3, Informative

    Touch up your Resume', go tell your boss to get bent, pound sand, etc. and look for a new place to work. Anyone who needs metrics on a three person team deserves anything they get, up to and including a swift kick in the ass. If the manager can't figure it out on his or her own, they should be the one being sent out the door with boxes.

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    1. Re:Here's what you should do... by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      The point is they need a case to fire someone. Not to increase productivity. I know from experience.

  54. First, read Robert Austin's book by PatMcGee · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Before you do anything else, read Robert Austin's book, "Measuring and Managing Performance in Organizations".

    The points I got from the book:
    1) Measuring the wrong thing or in the wrong way makes things much, much worse.
    2) Good measurements are possible but take a lot of hard work.
    3) Measuring things that are easy to measure is almost certainly wrong.

    I also endorse BenEnglishAtHome's comment timestamped 8:55pm.

    1. Re:First, read Robert Austin's book by bartonski · · Score: 1

      2) Good measurements are possible but take a lot of hard work.

      2a) Good measurements may take up more time and effort than is involved in actually doing the work.
      2b) Most measurements that take up more time and effort than is involved in doing the work are bad.
      2c) Knowing the difference between 2a) and 2b) is also time consuming.

  55. Revenue and Survey by vinn · · Score: 2

    I manage a department roughly the same size for a company about the same size.

    I use two main metrics to see how we're doing:
    1. The IT budget should be about 3% of the total company revenue. That's pretty average for companies of this size. If you're significantly under or significantly over, you need to do some soul searching to figure out why.

    2. Every year we put together a survey and ask the exact same questions. Its going on 5 years now so we can compare our performance year over year. We ask about 20 questions and score them on a scale of 1-5. Things like 'hows training?' to 'how well does your cell phone work?'

    Counting trouble tickets is mostly a worthless exercise. Although, you can manipulate it to your advantage. Start closing 120 tickets this month, 140 next month, etc. When you get to 240 tickets a month you can take that graph to upper management and say, "we're working twice as hard as we were 7 months ago and need to hire someone."

    In the end, you have two ways to view this: as a bullshit exercise (and possibly an excuse to fire someone as others have said) or as a way to attempt to objectively evaluate your department.

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    1. Re:Revenue and Survey by vinn · · Score: 1

      Regarding revenue, I meant to add - do you have a revenue generating component within IT? I think there's some novel ways of creating one for most businesses. Anyway, actually generating some form of revenue and growing it can be a good thing as long as it isn't a big distraction.

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  56. Optimal by dcollins · · Score: 1

    "...determining if we are performing above or below what is considered optimal."

    optimal, adj.: most favorable or desirable; best; optimum [Webster's New World Dictionary]

    How can you possibly perform above optimal?

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  57. Use it to force a new hire instead by PerformanceDude · · Score: 2
    Just working backwards from the "one of you will be fired" comment above. Why not try and come up with a metric that shows you are impressively efficient, but drowning under a massive workload? Done right, it might just force management to hire rather than fire.

    There are a number of ways you can do this:
    1) For the next few weeks, only deal with issues in the ticketing system that can be resolved quickly. This shows how responsive you are on the "count of problems solved" and "time to resolution".
    2) Always upgrade easy problems to "Extremely Urgent", so that they get picked up first (as per above).
    3) Do NOT under any circumstances touch a complicated problem that requires consideration or actual work. Find someone to outsource it to. Then blame the outsourcing costs and lack of efficiency (obviously they do not have the same fast response time as you) for the problem.

    Seriously: In a 3 man team, you and your manager should KNOW who is working and who is on facebook all day. If you are all working hard, then it is not time to add more pressure by introducing metrics, it is time to hire more help. If on the other hand you are all on facebook all day - well - then good luck to you in your new job at Walmart....

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  58. MTTR & Network Reliability by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Any metric is open to interruption.

    It comes down to what specific information you would find useful. Once you determine that, then you need to CONSISTENTLY generate metrics using the same method. Until you have historical information, it’s just a number.

    MTTR and Network Reliability are more than enough to keep you busy period-to-period. I suggest one full page of information for each. It should include the core metric (current, historic, & average), a paragraph summery of significant events, and a detailed breakdown. (Class, status, category, priority, location, application, etc)

    Optimal MTTR for high-availability systems is typically 2 or 4 hours.
    Optimal Network Reliability for high-availability systems is 99.999% up-time.

    Then YOU use this information to determine where there is room for improvement. The first thing that should stand out with MTTR is how support ticket categories and priorities are not used effectively.

    Once you have consistently calculated numbers and have historical references, sharing the information with management actually has value. It provides a view into your part of the organization they can understand.

  59. Introducing new Metrics.... by BrainRam · · Score: 1

    I'd suggest "MTTD" and "AQ"

    Mean TIme to Douchebaggery : Have your boss recruit some internal people to call your department with simple but real problems, and act like users who don't know anything. Record how long it takes the customer support rep to start acting like a complete douchebag. Longer times are better.

    A-hole Ratio: As the manager, you should really know who the biggest a-holes on your team are. Determine if that's having a negative impact on other members of your team. Calculate the a-hole benefit (Tickets Closed) vs. perceived a-hole cost (lost productivity in tickets).

    Both of these have a direct impact on your department's productivity. If people are individually productive but bad for business as a whole, get rid of them. But if they are "that good", maybe you need people who can better work with these a-holes.

    Can they be gamed? Sure, by being less of a douchebag, or less of an a-hole. Sounds like a win-win.

    Yes, I'm being flip. And yet, not really.

  60. Just the fact that you have time to do this by Culture20 · · Score: 1

    ...means that your team may not have enough work to go around. I'm of the mindset that having a regularly light workload is good for an IT team, so that they're available when the ^#@$ hits the fan as it eventually will, murphey's law and all. But your managers probably are not.

  61. Also useless by dbIII · · Score: 1

    Customer/User satisfaction

    Some users just want to get paid while other people do their job for them. If you are doing your job properly (and have a very different job to them) you are going to inadvertantly annoy them when you eventually have to tell them to do their job themselves. There's plenty of other situations because ultimately the user is not really when the loyalty has to lie - the organisation that pays you is supposed to be where the proirities are set. Even in retail the customer is not always right, that glib bit of heart warming bullshit isn't going to save your job if the customer tries to screw the company over (eg. shoplifter).
    You can make the users more satisfied by employing attractive people to break the bad news that something will take a long time to fix instead of silently and rapidly fixing it. The user may be happy but they are not getting a lot done which conflicts with where the loyalties should really lie.

    1. Re:Also useless by thatkid_2002 · · Score: 1

      *Sigh* I've lost this reply twice now... I really can't be bothered writing the long winded reply a third time. Basically: I never said that the IT professional's loyalty lies with anybody but the organisation (their customer). They are there to do their job. No grovelling to users, its not a popularity contest. IT teams cannot be analysed the same as a "widget manufacturing team". IT problems have varying characteristics and therefore take varying amounts of resources to solve them. Yet when there seems to be a problem managers like to blame the team. If there was a problem with the organisational widget manufacturing team they tend to blame the processes. In a widget manufacturing team, widgets manufactured per-hour is a sensible metric whereas tickets per hour is not a sensible metric for an IT team. The only metric that can be applied to an IT team member is the satisfaction level of their performance. Are they working efficiently (as the processes allow) and competently? If the answer is YES then it is the manager's job analyse processes and find ways to increase efficiency or to just hire more man-power.

  62. Metrics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    With a three person team, I would measure success by how many times / month things are completely f@ck4^ up. No more than once and you're doing great.

  63. Short anser: Below optimum (Metric: Basic logic) by q.kontinuum · · Score: 1

    Performing above optimum is per definition not possible. So asking for this proves the Management is acting below optimum, measured by their ability to apply basic logic.

    For such a small group I think it might be a better solution to just look at the tickets, filter for those with especially high response time, for those which where closed and reopened frequently, and for those which took longest for the first reply. Based on your gut feeling what management really wants (Do they look for excuses to fire people? Do they really want to improve the system?) you would either come up with a metric that strengthens your position most or with a metric which shows the bottleneck of your service or with a list of the worst cases [not by metric, but by common sense combining the different aspects] and try to find a common pattern / root cause to improve on.

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  64. Skip the metrics by Intropy · · Score: 1

    If the question is whether you are performing above or below what is considered optimal, the answer is easy. Below. Nobody performs above optimal, and pretty much nobody performs at an optimal level. If your IT department requires three full time employees to handle 300-350 clients you aren't that rare exception unless there're a lot of responsibilities beyond supporting those 350 clients (like say if you also manage 1000 web servers).

  65. How is time spent? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of cataloguing work that was performed, catalog how time was spend when doing work. That is, measure what is needed to improve, not easily misinterpreted stats. This will provide the information needed to increase efficiency by identifying common time wasters. E.g.:

    Get stop watches. Identify high-level classifications of tickets (e.g., research, talking to person that filed, filling out paperwork, etc). Randomly select 1 out of 10 tickets as they are being assigned. Have the people record, to the minute, what they are doing for each ticket (get stopwatches, if need be). Have them record what, if anything, presented a non-productive obstacle (e.g., key information was missing from the ticket). Then compile the results.

    Take this all with a pinch of salt; I'm simply an armchair analyst.

  66. Wrong Metrics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You need to reverse the metrics. Instead of looking at your performance, you identify the users and services that are negatively impacting your performance. Your current idea assumes IT demands are constant and your team is variable, but you should be thinking that you're efforts are constant and IT demands can be variable. Does the VP of Incompetence consume too much of your time asking again how to do a mail merge and initiate "projects" that make no sense and waste your efforts? Your metrics should show that he is negatively affecting the bottom line and should be eliminated. Instead of an expense you're now a "profit center".

  67. thoughts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It metrics for a any shop can be a bit tough. Its all going to depend on what upper management is considering to be optimal performance and what they value. If nothing has been framed up for you, my suggestion would be to first try and tackle this from a customer perspective. Focus in on the following metrics:

    Customer Satisfaction: Create a survey that you send out to random customers in your company that ask the following questions(these are just examples):
    1) Was your issue resolved?
    2) Do you feel it was resolve in a timely fashion?
    3) Do you turn to IT as a resource to fix your problems?

    Also, it might not be a bad idea to do a little reading up on ITIL, so far as methodologies are concerned.

    In short, if you take this tactic and they throw it back at you and do not consider it important then they are just trying to get numbers to support a specific action, try to figure out what that is (what exactly are you trying to accomplish?). Personally, I've always taken the stance with management, listen I understand outsourcing is always a concern if that is the case let me know so we can work together to make is successful. Outsourcing is a fact in life in modern IT, you would be surprised how far you can go with this type of attitude.

    Just my thoughts...

  68. Use Process Behavior Analysis by DI4BL0S · · Score: 1

    To measure the metrics you specified meaningfully, without wasting time over analyzing you should look up Process Behavior Analysis. Its a simple yet complex way of measuring any metrics over a long period of time, allowing you to apply concepts like `Continual Improvement` to those metrics to get them to where you want. Other metrics could be per productive hour, Backlog,if you have Sev1,2,3,... and you have targets, measure % Sev1,2,3 resolved out of criteria, if you do changes, measure %failed changes, or measure the types (e.g HW failure) of work coming in to explain certain deviations in your other metrics,etc... hope this puts you on the right track

  69. When metrics are requested... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Game them to prove that you should be staffed at 6 people and not 3. The only metric that is of importance is how many tickets/issues are open. Not to be confused with projects. Often projects and system maintenance are not captured in a ticket system, and probably should not be. Ticket systems are for keeping track of open issues and to help schedule resources and prioritize. Any metrics you ween out of them are bogus and up for interpretation. For example, average time to completion. Perhaps one person is tasked with tickets that are second tier and take more time. Perhaps a problem requires a replacement part which needs requisitioning and then happens to be on back order. It may take 2 months to resolve at no fault of the IT person.

    The biggest issue with metrics is that in order to hope to have and usable data, each and every tech must spend significant time documenting issues. No matter how small the issue. This means for a 5 minute task, you could spend an additional 5 minutes creating a ticket, documenting the work and then closing the ticket. And if management is trying to capture time, forget it. I have seen employers sum up the time listed in tickets and interrogate the IT worker what they did with the other part of the day, ever threaten them with pay deduction. But then when things reach that level, people game the system to prevent problem and the metrics are useless.

    How many issues are open? Zero, then you are overstaffed. Is the company losing money because things aren't getting done? Either the people aren't working hard enough or you are understaffed. Any manager worth his weight, knows if his people are skilled and/or goofing off. Metrics can't tell you.

  70. Be Careful... by billybob_jcv · · Score: 1

    I really hope you have good categories for your tickets. One of the things the business never understands (or refuses to understand) is that a significant number of the tickets should NOT be used as a metric to indicate there is a problem with the IT systems. If someone calls you because they need access to a shared folder, that's not an IT "issue" - it's a user request. Yes, they all take your time, and they need to be counted to show the total workload - but those types of tickets should not be used by the business to say "there's too many IT issues - you suck". Of course, there are many other types of tickets that should be categorized separately from real "issues" - including user training issues, password issues, client SW requests, etc. Just because you track it as a ticket doesn't mean it's a "problem".

    Also: If there are lots of "easy" things you do that are not tracked as tickets - then you're hosed. Without metrics to back-up your claim that you spend XX% of your time talking to users, you have nothing.

       

  71. Seriously ... by holle2 · · Score: 1

    We are having a year long experience in ticketing and performance stats/metrics systems (i.e. Atlassian Jira in combination with Tempo, nut that is just my two cents) and I see it like this:

    For a system to deliver good metrics it needs a certain time to be setup and configured according to the requirements.
    No one and no system (do not believe the high-gloss printouts!) can be setup in 5 minutes.

    So it all boils down to this:
    The setup will take probably a couple of days until you have tweaked everything and the color scheme pleases your boss.

    By that time it is clear *who* gets laid off: *the one who configured that system* !
    "Why?", you ask.
    Simple answer: the other two were able two handle the IT workload without the third *"who was playing arodung with new software"*.

    Questions anyone ?

  72. Return the question. by FaxeTheCat · · Score: 1

    The question is what management want from IT. Let them define what they want and need, then you can create metrics to show them to what degree you are providing it.
    There is a pretty good chance that they will be clueless.

    As a sidenote: measuring the performance of a 3 person team using the ticketing system sounds pretty stupid to me. There are just not enough numbers to provide it. Do you REALLY create tickets for everything you do?

    And if it is of any comfort: In our 100K employee company with a pretty well structured IT support organization, most of the the metrics are still useless. This is proven by the fact that we are asked to do/not to do certain things "because they hurt our numbers", not because it makes sense from a productivity perspective.

    And while we are at it: The simplest and most informative metrics I have see on a helpdesk (this was 1st line):
    - Time to pick up phone (80% to be in less than 30 seconds)
    - % of tickets resolved at 1st line (minimum 75 %)
    - User satisfaction survey at certain numbers

  73. As they say in poker by Johnny+Mnemonic · · Score: 1

    If you can't spot the sucker at the table, it's you.

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  74. Point your boss to this page by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Let him just browse through the results modded up here. There's a couple of salient details most replies seem to agree on:
    1. It's downsizing time
    2. a 3 man team for this company is too small... if the team isn't universally despised, they're doing fine.
    3. metrics can be gamed easily, especially ticket-related metrics.
    4. Using metrics seems a poor replacement for actually knowing the team and knowing how they're doing.

    In other words, if we take the reactions here to be a nice average of "the industry", then "the industry"'s response to this question is that it's mostly pointless, a waste of their time better spent on IT, lazy management and, last but not least, the signal that it's time to start looking for employment elsewhere.

    If that's what your boss is after, then by all means: look for employment elsewhere. If that isn't his goal, perhaps reading through the deluge of rather adversarial replies here might give him some insight into how this is perceived.

  75. watch your language by swell · · Score: 2

    Twice you used the phrase "been tasked with". This is not the English you learned in school. Is your wife 'tasked with' washing the dishes?

    There is a certain kind of lizard who embraces corporate speak, perhaps to kiss the ass of management or impress co-workers. This is a soulless sort of individual who is doomed to a lifetime of servitude.

    If you reclaim your dignity, speak correctly and stand up straight you will either be respected or fired. Either way you will have found a better path in life.

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    1. Re:watch your language by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "He tasks me. He tasks me, and I will have him." -- Captain Ahab, speaking of Moby Dick.

      I've often been tasked by management, but almost always in the sense that Ahab uses.

  76. Too little information to really tell by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is very difficult to tell you, given the information on hand, what the numbers should be. I really depends on how complex your infrastructure is, what applications you are using, the skillset of the employees. The only metric on hand, I can think of, is a statistics on how satisfied your users are, so every time a user closes a ticket, he has to indicate his satisfaction with a number from 1-10. We did a study and found that we had an overall satisfaction of above 4, which was better than average for the industry.

    Besides that I would suggest setting up some cycle-time KPI's, and then work on reducing response times at time to completion.

  77. SLAs by awjr · · Score: 1

    Place I currently work, each team/department have a set of Service Level Agreements that are set for a year. Each department has a different set of SLAs (Note this is not done at a individual level). Each monthly team brief, your SLAs are discussed. If you keep hitting/exceeding your SLAs then a review at a higher level in the organisation is undertaken to question if the SLAs that the team/department set are too easy or not relevant any more.

    It seams to work.

  78. Weighting tickets against problem complexity? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't understand how you can get any useful metrics from helpdesk tickets without weighting the tickets based on the complexity of the problem.

    I work as the lone IT guy in an SME (100+ employees, 2 sites, a bunch of servers and 50 odd desktops, 30 odd laptops and anything else that is vaguely IT related) and have been asked to produce reports on tickets. I had to explain that I only open tickets for problems that take longer than 10 mins or so, or problems that are more complex than expected, or are recurrent. I don't open tickets for all the regular work like checking backup jobs, patching and updating, reading email alerts etc.

    So it seems obvious to me that if you ticket every single fault, and you are trying to produce metrics based on those tickets then unless the resultant work carries a score based on complexity you aren't going to produce very useful metrics. I would be tempted to guess at a weighting on opening the ticket and then again on resolution, have those tickets peer reviewed (by the other helpdesk techs) and take an average. So if you resolve 20 tickets a day and the problem is simple the weighting should reduce the value of each of those tickets, but if you spend all day on a really awkward problem then the weighting should make the value of that ticket equal about the same as closing 20 tickets in the same amount of time.

    Implementing such a system would take a lot of work which I'm sure could be better spent on /.

  79. Beats by dre by Korshandbags · · Score: 1

    Nice piece, i remember looking somewhere else to do with this. Made me want to do another search in yahoo for more info and found your blog post. Great piece

  80. There are no metrics that can be compared by lucidlyTwisted · · Score: 1

    As other have stated, you company and your department are unique. The only criteria is: does anyone complain? Does IT hold up new products/expansion? If the answer to both of those is "No", then there is no problem. Carry on.
    Any metrics you collect will be totally pointless. Work for a company of morons? All tickets will be simple "How do I turn the monitor off?" types and solved in seconds. This makes you look good. The users will like you for helping them.l
    Work for a company of technical literates? Any tickets they raise are bound to be utter bastards that take weeks of investigation/implementation because the user will fix most issues themselves. This makes you look bad but the users will still like you for not getting in their way.
    So perhaps there is one metric: how many complaints has the team received and what action was taken to resolve those complaints?
    Also, I'd look at updating the CV and begin to look for a new job. Better to leave than be pushed (unless voluntary redundancy is in the offing)

  81. How about this... by sifi · · Score: 1

    At the end of the day stats are used to compare people.

    Why not take a 'free-market' approach:
    Have people 'bid' points for tickets and the lowest bidder gets to do the work.
    When they complete the ticket they get the 'points'.

    This way how 'hard' a ticket is 'priced' in and people tend to do the tickets that they are best suited to.

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  82. Use this to show you need 10 people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Use this opportunity to show that you need 10 people!

    Around 2002, my team had 15 people for a company with 65,000 employees. We were always behind and couldn't find qualified help at the current rates being paid. There was a 4 yr backlog of projects.

    By using metrics, we showed that more people were needed. We got them.

    We weren't "IT", so our metrics don't really help you. Look up "IT Operations" to find those. However, with a team so small, there's a point that you can't go smaller without losing critical skills and capabilities even if you are 100% *nix shop. I've worked at tiny companies (3 people) and some of the largest (over 120K employees). If there's a need for an "IT" department, then it probably needs 3 people. It may be possible to have 1 full-time and 2 consultants to save money. I dunno.

    Like everyone else here says - someone will be fired. If you want to make a point, leave and then the company will quickly learn how important YOU were.

  83. performance - it's soo USA by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Measuring performance. Leave the company, there's erratic reasoning behind such an idea - so the first post really nailed it.
    Work with improvements and measure to pinpoint what could be good to improve, and if the improvement did work.

  84. Performing above the optimal? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    O RLY?

  85. Your statement; fixed ;-) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is your statement, only with proper grammatical structure. So much nicer, huh?

    I agree! The worst part about this that I've personally seen is that the (needless/unethical) termination of employees seems to have no effect on the upper management's future career path at all!

    A while back, the CTO of a small development shop basically ran the whole gig into the ground (due to his own negligence [implication]), resulting in 14 people getting laid off. He was so incompetent that he himself was even fired ("laid off") on the spot. However, that didn't stop him! Years later he walks into my new place and ends up becoming *my* boss, complete with a fat salary and a lot of confidence from the bean counters.

    There's no justice in the world! My sense of optimism/justice is certainly not helped by the fact that when you are in upper management, it seems that you aren't really "fired"; you are just "asked" to consider resigning.

    Talk about frustrating!

  86. IT metrics are bad metrics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Did you miss on this one?

    http://www.google.es/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=bad%20it%20metrics&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CDwQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fit.slashdot.org%2Fstory%2F11%2F12%2F14%2F225204%2Fthe-four-fallacies-of-it-metrics&ei=QDjrTtaEKYufOqKw8asI&usg=AFQjCNHSyBkJ3WIN3Ii2ypE9Ga4b0Er0nA

    1. Re:IT metrics are bad metrics by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Shit.

      http://it.slashdot.org/story/11/12/14/225204/the-four-fallacies-of-it-metrics

      Don't know how to link

  87. What is all this with metrics? by guus_deleeuw · · Score: 1

    If the overall work gets done, it's ok. If the work doesn't get done and there is an acceptable reason, it ok too. Otherwise it's not ok. There are always people that are better at one thing than others, but that doesn't mean the other people don't contribute other things, which you forget to measure. When the team is too big you should look at essential knowledge/experience, contributions to the team, etc. to figure out who to drop.

  88. Step back and think for a while by Monty+Worm · · Score: 1

    Metrics, like statistics, can be manipulated to appear to show many different things.

    Surely there's some way you can dream up a metric that says you're all overworked and need to hire more people?

    Just a thought

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  89. Metrics for a 3 person IT staff? by yanagasawa · · Score: 1

    What a tragic waste of time and resource. Use the time you're supposed to be gathering metrics to look for a new job.

  90. Show them your good side by Ed+Bugg · · Score: 1

    I noticed that a lot of people seem to submit recommendations about your interaction with customers, but you could be also servicing the servers and network. If that's the case then add in there the number of outages that had no impact to the users. A power supply in a server went down, but the server had dual power supplies and no one noticed. Someone had a good idea at convening management to spring for that extra money. You connect your access switches with dual links and one of them went down?

    If your going to collect metrics, let them know how much downtime the company avoided because you guys did your job. I've seen too many bad metrics around how much a person caused the company, only to find that 80/20 rule ended up biting them. 80% of the work was done by 20% of the workforce so all the murphy law scenarios only hit a limited number of people because they are the ones that did all the work. While all the people that sit back and did nothing reap'd all the metric glory.

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  91. FTFY! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I'm a member of a small 3 person scapegoat team for a medium sized group of sociopaths (approximately 300-350 employees) that has multiple execution locations internationally. I have been tasked with building some gallows using our own intestines. I've also been tasked with ensuring the noose is the correct fit for my neck and determining that each of the 3 nooses are optimally aligned with the height and weight of the 3 team members. I'm wondering what people opinions are on what is the real reason we're being asked to do this is and what good metrics should be in regards to rope length, time to kill etc. I have had trouble finding information on this."

  92. put your resume together now... by lokispundit · · Score: 1
    My previous job started asking for these bullshit metrics as well mostly hours/task worked by business department....There was just me (OPS manager) and 1 help desk tech (who made 30K less than me). Guess who got canned?

    This is the kind of crap that happens when companies with a crappy business model start realizing that they are spending more than they are making and begin making cut backs under the pretense of "efficiency".

    Try to leave on your own terms if you can, rather than have the rug swept out from underneath you.

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  93. Customer Surveys. by plebeian · · Score: 1

    Although you can get metrics from your call tracking system, Customer Surveys are a better judge of performance. Don't get me wrong, measuring the ability of the IT department to document stuff has its place but in the end you want to measure how well they are doing their job. Their job includes more than just the ability to write up a ticket.

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  94. Everyone hates on IT by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 1

    I think it is because IT doesn't have teeth, has no political leverage, and they have real skills which make people jealous. They are going to fire someone and expect everyone else to work harder.

  95. above optimal? really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if you're above optimal you need to redo your calulation...just saying

  96. I'm doing just this Re:Hahaha by Uber+Banker · · Score: 1

    I was recently involved in putting together a small team to provide MIS reporting in an area where there's never been an MIS team, or any decent kind of metric other than volume, and identified mistake, before. Important how to define mistake, as they are often lagged, by days, months, or years, yet somewhere down the line a financial impact is identified. How is your team structured, how did you tailor the structure to the task?

    The team consists:

    • A recent graduate that's got about 6 months 'pit face' experience in the business area, likes to learn and background not technical but picks it up like a sponge;
    • Someone really driven academically that decided to come into the workforce. Finance background, numbers are relevant. Wants to be a high fligher, will learn anything if required;
    • Someone that's got an impressive retail management background over short period of time, good service attitude and serious people manager ambition. Didn't like as she described the tedium of regional store management, complete career shift, and pay cut but she's still nicely comfortable. A good financial toolbox no longer getting wasted;
    • Serious C#, VBA and R skill person. Only a couple of years experience, good people person being coached by someone in another department to open them up to career ambition - quite happy doing what is currently doing but want to make sure they feel there are options if they want them;
    • Leading the team, an AVP from sales side taken the leap from Manager to AVP. Technically sound in C#, VBA, not R, managing small sales teams. Getting coaching on how technology and operations teams function, different scopes of influence, resource and motivation, etc. Subtly goal focused to make a team doing perform an MIS role for the first time. He has full liberty on metrics he wants to produce, as long as there's something and as long as his team can scale requests which will surely increase when others in the business realize metrics can be done - then we'll pass it to a BA and PM and the team will be rewarded with promotions all round.

    In the above we tried to keep redundancy in key skill set for the task, mainly utilising our required Office packages plus SQL which I didn't mention but some have, while mixing it up with some strong skill flashes in all that can let them have an individual impact. Hopefully we'll tread new water and everyone will do well. Key is, did you and/or OP think how to structure your team, or were you just 'selected' as an existing team to fulfill a new task?

  97. What gets measured, gets done. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Firstly, with such a small team, I would focus on team metrics rather than individual. Also, with any given metric, be sure that EVERY aspect of that metric is directly controlled by your department. If anybody else can impact the metric, it's not a valid measure for your department. Finally, keep them as simple as possible, they are useless (and possibly detrimental) if they are difficult to understand, or worse yet, easy to misinterpret.

    At our company (similar size) we use Jira for ticketing. I use the VertygoSLA plugin (hope nobody's offended by the free plugs for these products, I have no affiliation with either). Then we created levels of impact (productivity impact, and how many are affected) on the company, and assigned acceptable response and completion times for each level of impact.

    To keep it brutally simple, we just track % responded and % completed within the SLA time. The VertygoSLA plugin allows the times to be automatically "frozen" if we need approval or more information, or if the case is put on hold for any reason.

    What gets measured, gets done. The problem is not metrics, the problem is POOR metrics.

  98. Did you not see yesterday's article? by smooth+wombat · · Score: 1

    In case you missed it, here is the link to the story.

    If you want the article itself, there ya go.

    Having read that article, and the ones the author links to, it is quite clear why IT, and business in general, is in such shambles. People want to continually measure things, but they don't know what they want to measure.

    I hadn't realized it, but I have been saying the same thing the author of the article said for some time: what is your goal? I use this quote from Seneca:

    If a man does not know to what port he is sailing, no wind is favorable

    This simple phrase should apply to every project, every metric, every everything. What is your ultimate goal? What do you want to accomplish? Only then can you answer the question: how do I get to that point.

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    We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
  99. Evolution of Support by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Initially your small group of IT support worked like this:

    "Hey, I can't get the frammit to modal on my machine."
    "Let me take a look. OK, fixed. You needed the clugal plugin. This is how you use it."

    Now management wants to track metrics:

    "Hey, I can't get the frammit to modal on my machine."
    "You'll have to submit a trouble ticket."
    "Trouble ticket assigned"
    "Problem identified. User is trying to use a function he does not have software for, a clugal plugin."
    "Close Ticket."
    "Wait, what about my clugal plugin?"
    "You'll have to submit a trouble ticket."
    "Trouble ticket assigned"
    "Clugal plugin installed."
    "Close Ticket."
    "So how do I use this plugin?"
    "You'll have to submit a trouble ticket."
    "Trouble ticket assigned"
    "User training provided for plugin."
    "Close Ticket."

    METRICS: Resolved three trouble tickets!

  100. Don't panic but ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's a trap!

  101. Scorecards and Politics by jonnyboy3us · · Score: 1

    I also work in a small company with two staff in IT. Myself and a web developer. We do use metrics to report to upper management how well systems are running. What I've done is create an excel spreadsheet with all of the systems we have running, the licenses, version and comments for each system. We then assign that system a 1 to 5 score and average the total at the end for a total composite score. One is if there are no problems, five is for serious issues. I generate this spreadsheet every month and send it to my boss. The other Major part to a small operation is customer service. In a small company, how happy your end users are imho more important than if the systems are running perfectly. We have to market ourselves and make sure we are available if anyone needs us. Being personable and friendly is very important. A final point of advice. Please don't make the metrics too complex. Management may be looking to let somebody go. However, they also may be looking to see what needs to be fixed and/or improved for capital expenditures. Metrics help track trends and you can use them to get the equipment and/or programs you need if you design them correctly.

  102. How about ... by spads · · Score: 1

    ... "number of * between anger management episodes"?

    *Days, hours, minutes as appropriate.

    --
    Bukowski said it. I believe it. That settles it.
  103. Actual Answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I worked in the field of performance metrics for almost 10 years and my work was never been geared toward getting people fired. I've worked as an internal and external consultant assisting departments in establishing meaningful metrics and targets so they can monitor their performance. Departments and individuals can then modify work practices and see the effect that these changes have. They can conduct small scale experiments and use the results to bolster a case for funding. They can ensure that the important things get done and extrapolate the effect of poor performance and provide means to mitigate those effects - so there are lots of good business reasons for measuring performance other than figuring out what person to fire.

    My interpretation of the OP was to compare this small IT department's metrics to some industry benchmark - not to compare the performance of one employee to another. All the commenters telling this fellow to dust off his resume might be right on, but I can tell you this isn't always the case. There is a website (I'm not affiliated in anyway) called kpilibrary.com (KPI meaning Key Performance Indicators) and they have aggregated data from their user base which may yield some useful information. I think you can indicate the size of your company and industry to get more comparable metrics. You'll never get a perfect comparison - but it's a starting place. Hope this helps.

  104. Metrics don't work in small IT depts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Metrics measure tasks. In a small IT department, your tasks are less specialized and you have more duties. Working for a large (100+ people) IT dept, I have a very specific job. In a small IT dept of my past employment, I did a little bit of absolutely everything. The work that it would take to quantify each different type of task against every other based on demand and usefulness would probably cost more than the money saved by firing someone if you want an accurate metric. It's something that has to be studied over long periods of time, and is constantly changing as the company changes (so by the time you get your answer, it may be incorrect). It may be easy to measure metrics for someone who writes Crystal reports all day, but it's not as easy to measure metrics for someone who is a Analyst/Admin/Helpdesk/Developer/WorkstationTech/InventoryControl.

  105. Business is made of numbers by sentimental.bryan · · Score: 1

    Find out which ones are important to the business - start counting them. Create a pipeline of system improvement projects - work on them. Document everything you do. The gods will smile upon you.

  106. Spin it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Simple solution, write a report, but spin it as overtaxed IT and blame problems on inept / unsupportive management.

  107. Metrics aren't bad (in moderation) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Metrics aren't bad, it is how they are misinterpreted and misused that can be good or bad. I'd suggest creating automated ways to track as many metrics as you can, and sharing only ones you want, when you are ready.

    For you, they can be used to further certain agenda items. For example:
    - Remote office X is creating abunch of cruddy tickets. They accounted for 10% of the tickets, but 50% of the effort due to unclear descriptions and not trying to reproduce the problem.
    - We have spent 25% of our effort on IE6 issues over the last month. Even though IE6 is installed on 1/20th of the machines, it is taking up a disproportiate amount of our time. I strongly recommend we officially stop supporting IE6 and move to a more modern browser.

    These are just a few we track. Each member of the team has access to these. I dont use them as goals, but instead we review them as a team when we are concerned there is a problem. Understanding and being able to measure some of HOW your work helps you understand if you can make improvements.

    - Tickets opened by user / department (who is creating the most workload for you?)
    - Avg Ticket Lifetime (how long is the average ticket open?)
    - Avg number of tickets in queue per day, over time (is work / backlog increasing or decreasing?)
    - Avg number of tickets that get returned to the IT queue (we measure this 'roughly' by the number of tickets that have more than X responses from IT staff) (this could be an indication of not completing the work correctly the first time)
    - Avg time spent per ticket (we have seperate field to track time spent working on issue since last note) (allows for stats, it takes us roughly 2 days to complete 4 hours of work on a certain type of ticket)
    - Avg time spent per ticket per creator (allows me to clearly identify certain teams as creating bad / time wasting tickets)
    - If you set ETCs, # of tickets that missed ETC (broken down by team member so you can work on setting better ETCs, training, or teaching them to ask for help instead of beating head on wall)

  108. game the system by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are no industry standards for this. Small IT teams probably do alot of different things. I also don't know how your ticketing process works. I also don't know what your IT staff does. Do you code? Do you run servers? Do you do desktop support? Set up phones? Im a DBA.

    This is what I would do. Give them what they think they want.

    1. start opening tickets for just about everything you do. Even trivial things. Do them, write when you do. Then close them immediately. They probably rate this on how long they are open. So the narrower the ticket, the less time its open.
    2. always greatly over estimate how long it will take to get something done. this way you can't be late. Do not come in too early or next time they will make the timer shorter.
    3. require as much work as possible to be done through tickets. Don't respond to alot of email questions. You need tickets. Don't answer too many questions. Tickets again. If you need tickets to determine how well you are doing, then tickets they will get. If you close less tickets because you are helping people who don't open tickets then, you need to stop doing this. Yes, I know this slows down productivity, but you need to perform to the rating system.
    4, find a way to make stuff up about industry standards. Find some standard. Find some way to make it look like most people do a horrible job. Show how you guys are GREAT. This is vague, because I don't have a clue how to get an industry standard. There are not any.
    5. Prioritize managers and people who have visibility to senior managers. Make regular people wait, the managers need to come first. Make important things wait, the managers need to come first. Drop what you are doing to help executives. Make sure to create tickets and lots of them for it. You need to look like you are getting work done more than getting work done.

  109. Partly agree with the above, but ... by dbIII · · Score: 1

    My point was that a "satisfaction metric" is almost useless unless applied as how satisfied their direct management is with their performance after considering several factors. In such a case it's not a single metric anymore.
    Outside of very well defined situations it is not easy to come out with measurements that can effectively describe a situation to people with no grounding in the field they are trying to manage. "Metrics" are no replacement for IMHO the more effective management style of asking somebody with a clue how things are going, even if that means passing messages up and down a tree.

  110. Few Suggestions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the entirety of this thread is a circle jerk for the coders that don't understand the need for Architects, Project Managers, Directors and CIOs. I thought I would give you my thoughts on this subject from the Director level.

    Given the size of your employee base and only have 3 IT people, I am going to assume that its strictly a help desk staff.

    Finding useful metrics for management outside of IT is a pain and always will be, but for my own benefit as management IN IT, here is what I have found helps me make decisions or determine the success/failure of a decision or plan.

    Make sure the categories in your help desk are detailed enough to get you metrics that matter first off. For example:
    Software => [ Office 2010, JabberIM, CustomerCRM, ect ]
    Hardware => [ Networking, VOIP, Harddrive, Ram, ComputerGen, ect ]

    Metrics like "total open tickets" or "closed this month/week/day" ect are not very usefull to me. I usually want to see "average time to close" or "average response time". I want to see how long it is taking for the help desk to respond to tickets of varying severity, and how long the resolution of the tickets take. Then when looking at those over the long term, you want to see trends. For instance, I would be concerned with seeing Hardware tickets for workstations trending upwards in the time it takes to resolve them. If I compare it to the trend for the number of tickets opened in that category and found that they have not increased, but time to resolve them has, then it tells me that either more training is needed for my help desk people to fix them. Or the tools and diagnostic software they are using is not sufficient ect..

    If I start seeing upwards trends in both tickets opened, and time to resolve them in all categories, then maybe I am understaffed? Maybe the conversion to Office 2012 from 2010 is slowing it down all other categories cause they are tied up with those.

    Overall though, yes, unless you have an IT minded manager,director or CTO/CIO reviewing these, the stats will be meaningless. Because a lot of IT knowledge will need to go into the metrics to properly interpret them and make management decisions based off of them.

    By being asked this, this is a good thing! Take the time to put together these stats, but go ahead and put some explanation in there. Show management that you can interpret the stats and explain the good/bad of each of the stats and what they mean. KISS KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID. You get into IT management positions by not only understanding the tech. But by being able to CLEARLY AND SIMPLY explain it to the rest of the execs.

    This is something that a lot of coders and other techs DO NOT GET. Blabbering IT speak to management is the dumbest thing you can do. You need to break it down for them, find real-world analogies to explain what you are trying to describe. If you can break down the issue into simple conversation that makes sense to management.. You'll be moving up the ladder before you know it. Its dangerous to hide these metrics, to complain about them or to make them too complicated for NON IT management because then you are just inviting yourself to be fired and replaced with outside contractors.

  111. Been there by doodleboy · · Score: 1

    We had a new IT director show up a few years ago that came around to talk to everyone about their hopes and dreams and all the rest of it. Because he cared about us as people. Shortly after that the IT department shrunk by a third.

    It's Friday. I took the night off. I will be VPNing in tomorrow to do a bunch of stuff. I have to go in on Sunday to do a bunch of other stuff I can't do remotely.

    Fuck this shit.

  112. Having had the delightful good fortune --- by choke · · Score: 1

    Having had the delightful good fortune of being the 'it manager' of a 300-ish person company I will tell you that when you have 3 people, there are no meaningful metrics. Work load is too elastic and with a 10k user company, there won't be enough context in which to evaluate any metrics anyhow.

    The questions are instead answered with common sense :

    - Do my people have good work ethic?
    - Do our solutions work, and are we encouraging best practice?
    - Do we do what the business needs, in time to meet the businesses goals?
    - Are the people paying the bills happy?

    And that's all you can do. Trying to evaluate SLAs, ticket closures, and other non-statistics won't produce anything meaningful.

    For what it's worth, after 20 years of this business most of the stats I've seen from big businesses (100K + employees) were worthless at best and downright misleading at worst, where notoriously bad employees were actually able to game the system by cherry picking easy-close tickets, refusing to give their names when customers with hard issues called, hanging up on users, and not creating tickets when issues required followup to avoid having long ticket times. Those people end up getting rewarded, which demoralizes everyone and encourages defection.

    Unfortunately, in an absence of common sense and connection to the work, management refuses to admit their lack of competence of judgement and would rather tout metrics as a serious tool.

    --
    "No good deed goes unpunished"
  113. Log all issues you deal with by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Give upper management a metric of how many issues you actually solve, including the ones where you close the issue right after hanging up the phone. You management will probably be flabbergasted and shut up about any more burdens of measurement. Don't bother about trying to show which person closed most issues, it just makes your performance worse. In a well working group, there will be some people with skills to deal with the nasty troubles and some who zip through the simpler oes. Both types are needed, and measurements on an individual level may ruin the total performance of the group.

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  115. Rule of Dumb by Sarlin · · Score: 1

    1 IT person for each 100 people they are supporting. Make sure when entering the amount of time worked on tickets it equals at least 80% of the workday. Average production of a worker is actually about 70 to 75% of the day. The remaining time is typically spent on research, admin, etc. Include in your time on your tickets all the time spent researching a problem, waiting on hold for a SME/Vendor support, etc. Also ensure they know that if there are only 2 of you the probability of lack of support at any given time will go up. One person is sick and the other has a doctor appointment or goes to lunch, etc. there is zero support during that hour or couple hours. Hope this helps. Oh and let us know what your new job is. Merry Christmas!

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