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AMD Radeon HD 7970 Launched, Fastest GPU Tested
MojoKid writes "Rumors of AMD's Southern Island family of graphics processors have circulated for some time, though today AMD is officially announcing their latest flagship single-GPU graphics card, the Radeon HD 7970. AMD's new Tahiti GPU is outfitted with 2,048 stream processors with a 925MHz engine clock, featuring AMD's Graphics Core Next architecture, paired to 3GB of GDDR5 memory connected over a 384-bit wide memory bus. And yes, it's crazy fast as you'd expect and supports DX11.1 rendering. In the benchmarks, the new Radeon HD 7970 bests NVIDIA's fastest single GPU GeForce GTX 580 card by a comfortable margin of 15 — 20 percent and can even approach some dual GPU configurations in certain tests." PC Perspective has a similarly positive writeup. There are people who will pay $549 for a video card, and others who are just glad that the technology drags along the low-end offerings, too.
...if most PC games weren't just shitty console ports these days. If you spend over $150 on a graphics card you're an idiot.
I rebuild my machines every two years. My previous rig couldn't do Crysis as max settings so my latest system has dual 5870's that I got for $400 a piece. I'll never splurge like that on video cards again. Then again, 2 years later, I still max out the sliders on every game I get. It's great to have that kind of computing power... but maybe I should have waited 6 months? Those cards are going for $150 today.
Due to console gaming retarding pcs.
im on single radeon 6950 (unlocked to 6970 by bios flash), and i am doing 5040x1050 res (3 monitor eyefinity) on swtor (the old republic), all settings full, and with 30-40 fps on average, and 25 fps+ on coruscant (coruscant is waaaaaaay too big).
same for skyrim. i even have extra graphics mods on skyrim, fxaa injector etc (injected bloom into game) this that.
so, top gpu of the existing generation (before any idiot jumps in to talk about 6990 being the top offering from ati ill let you know that 6990 is 2 6970s in crossfire, and 6950 gpu is just 6970 gpu with 38 or so shaders locked down via bios and underclocked - ALL are the same chip), is not only able to play the newest graphics-heavy games in max settings BUT also do it on 3 monitor eyefinity resolution.
one word. consoles. optional word : retarding.
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This is good news for many who are looking for bargain Video Cards. I recently purchased a GT240 on Newegg for $40 which performs as well as a Geforce 8800 sold for $600 a few years ago.
-- By all means let's be open-minded, but not so open-minded that our brains drop out.
and others who are just glad that the technology drags along the low-end offerings, too
Has the advance of high-end NV and AMD GPUs dragged along the Intel IGP in any way, shape, or form?
Yes yes.. Rendering yada yada. How many Mhash/s does it average when bitcoin mining? And what is the Mhash/Joule ratio?
What is the state of Linux drivers for AMD graphics cards? I haven't checked in a few years, since the closed-source nVidia ones provide for excellent 3D performance and I'm happy with that.
But, I'm in the market for a new graphics card and wonder if I can look at AMD/ATI again.
No, I'm not willing to install Windows for the one or two games I play. For something like Enemy Territory: Quake Wars, (modified Quake 3 engine), how does AMD stack up on Linux?
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That would be fine, but my general experience is that the NVIDIA cards are more compatible with OpenGL, whatever the specs say, which is frequently used for indy games. Also the NVIDIA cards have been more reliable and compatible on the whole when used in workstations in my experience.
Granted, I rarely have the budget to try the newest or best models... maybe it's different at the top end of the spectrum.
...that AMD can't put out a video driver that isn't total garbage.
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..keeping you nice and warm in the winter?
Why card manufacturers utilize (rightfully) new manufacture processes (28nm transistors) only to push higher performances?
Why the hell don't they re-issue a, say, 8800GT with the newer technology, getting a fraction of the original power consumption and heat dissipation?
*That* would be a card I'd buy in a snap.
Until then, I'm happy with my faithful 2006's card.
Mastering the English language is fucking easy: all you have to do is to put an f* word in every fucking sentence.
But can it run Unity on two screens without lag? I suspect that whatever video card I buy, the modern Linux dualhead display will feel slower than it did in 2005 :-/
I used to use nvidia cards, but always assumed video card brand made no difference, since I'd never heard anything to that affect. I recently got my first Radeon card, a minor upgrade that was twice as fast as my old card but used the same wattage (cool, right?). About once an hour, the new card freezes for a full 2 seconds, and maybe 30 seconds later freezes again for half a second. Sounds like no big deal, unless you are playing modern warfare 2, because then you are dead, and your kill-streak is reset. Sometimes I come out of the 2 second freeze to see my avatar ran off a ledge and is falling to his death. Kinda funny, but not when it borks a kill-streak. Getting killed by your video card is just wrong. I googled around for a solutions, and just found forums full of people lamenting the bad quality of drivers for those cards. It's fine for most games, and it's fine 99% of the time, but that other 1% can be a cruel bitch. Now you know.
because, there is at least ONE research that shows human physiology and senses are able to perceive differences in frame rates above 24 fps as smooth ?
no. the question is rhetorical. there isnt one single research that shows humans are able to perceive a difference in between 40 fps and 60 fps. its total bullshit.
hdmi specification requires 24 fps. not 60 fps. because, 24 fps is scientifically backed, whereas the only thing backing 'i can perceive 60 fps' is the self-propagated bullshit from gamers. nothing else.
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Ironically, when I started reading people's comments, my driver failed and had to be reloaded in Windows 7 for my year old NVidia card.
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How is this modded as insightful?
What have Linux driver to do with this card? How are Linux users in any way the target market for a high end enthusiast GAMING graphics card?
Perhaps once you can purchase BF3 or the like for Linux, then ATI and NV will spend more time writing drivers for Linux.
I cannot imagine that anything more than an older HD48xx series will help you in any way.
Now THAT'S a contingency plan!
its THAT obvious, THAT well known, THAT common, THAT normal, and yet among the approximately 6 people who called me 'idiot' in this thread after i asked them where was any research that showed people can perceive 30, 40 and 60 fps, have yet to still bring ONE research.
oh, one of them linked to a random website/blog that says the same thing, from some dude's mouth tho. thats what they understand from 'research'.
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finally my radeon 7500 is state-of-the-art again! WOOHOO!
Where are the other review links?
http://www.overclockers.com/amd-radeon-hd-7970-graphics-card-review/
http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/article/1000250/#axzz1hFPj6oTt
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970/
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/49646-amd-radeon-hd-7970-3gb-review-25.html
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Well nvidia just released a new beta driver the other day it seems to be stable and I haven't had a TDR since yesterday with it.
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The TDR problem has been on going with the 280 release and all that the 275.33's were the last stable release, it looks like the 290's are finally stable. Only took them 6mo.
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there is no difference in between 25 fps, or 30 fps or 40 fps to the human eye playing a game. other than the counter fraps shows. there wasnt any difference in between these with respect to human physiology and eye-brain connections either.
Cite?
Did you actually read that thesis? The author defined his methods and subjects well, and created test situations with clear, measurable metrics in addition to just user perception. He then shows the data he got and you can do your own conclusions. I cannot understand, how that paper would somehow not count as research.
You see, the point of science is not to about WHO did something and what were their credentials. That's the whole point. Only truth matters, and how you approach it. Not only did the author of said thesis postulate something, he actually tested it by meticulous experiment and proved his case. This is what SCIENCE is.
After reading that paper, if you disagree, you really have to have something to show for it. Either do your own study or present us with a critique of the paper, because that undergrads just completely destroyed your position.
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Due to console gaming retarding pcs. im on single radeon 6950 (unlocked to 6970 by bios flash), and i am doing 5040x1050 res (3 monitor eyefinity) on swtor (the old republic), all settings full, and with 30-40 fps on average, and 25 fps+ on coruscant (coruscant is waaaaaaay too big). same for skyrim. i even have extra graphics mods on skyrim, fxaa injector etc (injected bloom into game) this that. so, top gpu of the existing generation (before any idiot jumps in to talk about 6990 being the top offering from ati ill let you know that 6990 is 2 6970s in crossfire, and 6950 gpu is just 6970 gpu with 38 or so shaders locked down via bios and underclocked - ALL are the same chip), is not only able to play the newest graphics-heavy games in max settings BUT also do it on 3 monitor eyefinity resolution. one word. consoles. optional word : retarding.
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Here are over 53,000, if you see no difference greater than 24 Hz there's something wrong with your brain.
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?start=40&q=critical+flicker+frequency
Is there an omitted stimulus response in the human cone flicker electroretinogram?
J. Jason McAnany and Kenneth R. Alexander
Visual Neuroscience (2009), 26 : pp 189-194
"Omitting a stimulus from a t rain of repetitive stimuli, either by interrupting or by terminating the train, can elicit an electrophysiological response that occurs at the time appropriate for the omitted stimulus. This study investigated whether such an omitted stimulus response (OSR) is present in the flicker electroretinogram (ERG) of the human cone system. ERGs were recorded from 11 visually normal subjects in response to full-field sinusoidal flicker trains presented against a rod-desensitizing adapting field at frequencies ranging from 12.5 to 100 Hz. Recordings were synchronized with the onset of the stimulus trains, and the amplitude and relative delay of any additional ERG responses following the offset of the flicker train were analyzed. At stimulus frequencies below 35 Hz, the number of ERG responses always equaled the number of stimulus cycles. However, over the frequency range of 38.5 to 100 Hz, the ERG contained an extra response following flicker train offset. At stimulus frequencies from 38.5 to 62.5 Hz, there was a constant delay between the peak of the extra ERG response and the time at which the next stimulus would have occurred had the flicker train continued. This constant delay is characteristic of an OSR. In addition, an extra ERG response was apparent at these same stimulus frequencies if the flicker train was interrupted by omitting stimulus cycles from the middle of the train. The pattern of ERG findings is consistent with a recently proposed model of the OSR that attributes the phenomenon to a resonant oscillation in retinal bipolar cells."
My high-end hardware doesn't run it right, and my hardware is better than yours and more expensive than yours.
Likewise, ioDoom3 will be coming out soon with integrations from Doom3_Voodoo2 Patch and FastVoodoo so that you can see how shitty an engine truly is when all it's eye-candy are shutoff so that the Owner/player can experience the engine with the logical controls and quicker primitives. Whatever it takes to win is what proves how non-efficient an engine truly is, and Crysis is worse than Doom3.
I like the prospect of turning off the graphics card. I could use a KVM to switch to built in graphics. It's a shame they didn't actually put a low end chip with built in memory that could run on a couple watts. Seems short sighted to me.
its no good in linux though, they don't have OSS drivers for it, or even any hardware assisted high profile (L5.1) H.264 video encode/decode ,but then none of the AMD gfx chips from the whole last generation do that in Linux ether.
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