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An Early Look At Mac OS X 10.8
adeelarshad82 writes "Earlier today Apple announced their next OS, Mountain Lion. According to an early look, OS X 10.8 does more to integrate social networking and file-synching into a personal computer than any other OS. It tightly integrates with the whole Apple ecosystem that includes iOS devices and the free iCloud sharing service. Moreover Mountain Lion adds a powerful new line of defense against future threats where a malware app is prevented from running even if it is deliberately downloaded to a computer. Even though Apple's clearly got a lot of fine-tuning to do—and possibly a few features to add, there's no doubt that Mountain Lion already looks very fine." Update: 02/16 15:04 GMT by T : New submitter StephenBrannen writes with some more details culled from CNET. The newest OS X has now been released to developers, with an official release date planned for this summer. "Mountain Lion, as it is called, will further blur the lines between iOS and its Mac OS. iOS features that are being ported include: Messages (replacing iChat), Notification Center, Game Center, Notes, and AirPlay mirroring. Also new to Mac OS is the addition of Gatekeeper, which should help prevent malware attacks on Apple products. Not announced is whether Siri will be ported to the Mac."
OMG! OMG! OMG!!!! New Apple news!!! I'm jizzing myself!!!
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I hope the fuck up the goddamned scroll again, cuz that was frickin SWEET!
Hear that, Microsoft? You could bundle a years worth of Windows Updates, give it a catty name, and sell it for $30! Wake up and smell the revenue!
"But what if you want to run an older app, or download a utility that was written by someone who hasn't paid Apple's $99 fee for a developer's license? If you're an administrative user, you can Ctrl-click on the App, choose Open from the pop-up menu, enter your OS X password, and tell Mountain Lion to trust this app in the future."
One step closer to all apps needing to come from the app store.
OSX Cougar.
InB4 haters tripping over themselves to attack this despite knowing nothing about it. SHIT TOO LATE
If this release gets loose near Zanesville, OH it will be shot on sight (don't laugh, it's happened before and we learned our lesson)...
Sounds a little like AOL....
"It still doesn't work well in enterprise!"
Something to bring "hobby" Apple TV into the mainstream and get rid of those god awful $30 dongles.
"Moreover Mountain Lion adds a powerful new line of defense against future threats where a malware app is prevented from running even if it is deliberately downloaded to a computer"
While having a mechanism for the OS to check and display the cryptographic signature and signing party on an executable before executing it, the notion that this is 'new' seems to stretch credulity. Most Linux distros have been signing packages since shortly after they stopped supporting vacuum tube based systems, and Windows users have been getting little boxes describing(or freaking out about the lack of) 'Authenticode' signatures on drivers, activex controls, and executables for years now...
There are, undeniably, times when Apple introduces novel things, or non-novel-but-polished-to-an-unprecedented-sheen things; but this would not seem to be one of them...
I hope there is a easy way to trun if off before a trip to Canada turns into a 20K + data bill as the system thinks it's a good time to start a backup to the Cloud.
Also you don't need to be roaming to be hit with over the cap fees.
Text on my 15" MBP with 1680x1050 screen looks too small. I need a way to increase the size of everything like you can do in Windows. So far there's no way to do so in Mac OS X 10.7.
The opening paragraph has to be the most rabid bit of product love I can recall, especially compared with the actual content.
"upend the video games market"... Really? Just because the screen (if you have a laptop [aka can use the computer anywhere near your sofa] and the AppleTV box) can be wirelessly mirrored to the TV? And using hypothetical controllers that don't exist? Uh-huh.
"For the consumer market ... may be the most significant OS release since Windows 95". A fairly bold statement, given there's nothing in the article that even tries to back that up. Is the new security model supposed to be that big of a paradigm shift (for users, not for vendor lock-in)? Is it the "ooh... you can post to a blog quicker!" stuff? It pretty clearly looks like a point-release to an existing OS that is mildly interesting, but hardly redefining the consumer space.
iCloud isn't free. 5GB is free, and if you are syncing multiple devices it fills up extremely quickly. Then you have to start paying.
"Elephant" A big, fucking, white, elephant
As much as this review will cause hysteria among the Slashdot crowd (OMG THEY ARE LOCKING OUT CHOICES) I am very much in favor of using the App Store as the default repository. This has two major benefits as far as I see it. First, the applications will actually go into the /Applications folder instead of being run from a mounted .dmg file. Second, applications will actually get updated.
Another benefit is that this move will nip a lot of malware vectors in the bud.
Before everybody gets their panties in a twist, note that you can still install whatever you want after entering an admin user/pass and changing the settings.
I will agree with PC Magazine on a few points though - why the hell does a notepad have to look like a real life notepad? That's just cutesy stupid bullcrap.
So the age of tablets/smartphones/etc is going to result in cluttered desktops too? I already am not a complete fan of the iPad/iPhone icon bloat / cluterfest we have now but I see Apple wants to bring me that same mess to my desktop.
Even better, notifications which apparently want to write to my display but not make use of that convenient Apple bar at top; really - it can display more colors than black on gray - if I get mail just flash the mail icon up there or the like. Since third party apps can use this I hope we get a global opt out
Then comes the walled garden, I wonder what the default will be for new machines coming with Mountain Lion?
I am a little surprised that the dock at the bottom is surviving, been getting worried that its demise is soon.
Interface wise, looks like a spit between white on dark gray and black on white... are the teams not talking to each other?
Hey Apple! There are many things that work well in the device/touch world that need to stay there.
* Winners compare their achievements to their goals, losers compare theirs to that of others.
gruber's got a few words on mountain lion..
Interesting to see Apple's moving to an annual release cycle.
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
Eh. I was pushing for Lion King.
OS X 10.8 does more to integrate social networking
So does this mean we'll get Facebook / Twitter / Google Plus / Reddit / Digg / Fark / Something Awful / 4chan / EBaumsWorld / B3ta etc. "Share" icons hogging up every window's title bar? So I can "share" the latest crash log with a bunch of mindless blogheads?
That shit is getting real annoying. No I do NOT want to "share" every little bit of random crap I come across on the intarwebs with my "FaceTwatDitPlus friends circle". And now even /. has succumbed to this hipster crap.
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A picture of cookies? Steve Jobs hated cookies, the sugary pieces of shit that they are. I'm sorry but I'll never use Android as long as they keep naming it after junk food. "Ice Cream Sandwich" may sound good to some pimply neckbeard in his mom's basement but urban professionals choose to stay healthy. Jobs would have never allowed that fucking bullshit.
I guess this means no security updates for Snow Leopard after the summer, on a MacBook Air I bought a little over a year ago and will therefore be 1.5 years old by the time this comes out.
Thanks Apple.
Where downloaded apps have a pop up saying do you want to run this with a check box saying don't ask me again about this app.
10.6 will be their high point.
First, the applications will actually go into the /Applications folder instead of being run from a mounted .dmg file.
Odd. In my experience most .dmg files I have downloaded have some auto popup showing you that you should be dragging the folder into /Applications (the unmount being assumed I suppose). Or even if the file didn't have the reminder what is stopping you?
Fear is the mind killer.
Since when does one run applications from a mounted .dmg file instead of from the Applications folder? You're supposed to copy the application bundle in the .dmg to the Applications folder to install it, then trash the .dmg.
Fast release and no roll back is bad enterprise.
Now with New OS updates it brakes apps and in a enterprise that can be bad. But apple should do the right thing and you down grade the OS on hardware and not lock to say the latest mac OS 10.X even more so if you kill off API's. Let say say 10.8 makes CS 5.5 not work now and you have to wait for adobe to update CS 5.5 now in a enterprise. They can't wait and may want to down grade and what happens when say there new laptop can't take 10.7 and apple is like we upgraded your system 10.8 for free even if they did not want it.
This is all a marketing ploy. Another name for Mountain Lion is Cougar. What people don't realize is that this is really an older operating system geared toward a younger audience.
bro, lion costs 30 bucks...you could afford a macbook air but can't afford 30 bucks to stay current with your OS?
I like Apple. I'm a shareholder. All my computers run OSX (except the ones that run Linux). Why am I not more excited about Mountain Lion? Well, because I don't need or want all that crap.
So, you fanboys drink up so I can have a good retirement fund. I'll stick with what I'm using now.
Malware? Will it run on Dells too? I thought Macs had no malware. Confused...
Here's my experience maintaining a couple of friend's and family's Macs:
- .dmg files in the Applications folder. .app inside the .dmg, which is still inside the Downloads folder. .dmg and then the app inside it every time they wanted to use it. .dmg ever opened since last rebook still mounted, icon showing on the Desktop and in Finder.
- Apps in the dock that refer to the
- "My application stopped working after I emptied the Downloads folder".
- People who actually opened the
- Every single
Here, we're the 1%. Apple wants to make life easier to the 99%. Can't blame them.
Just because the screen (if you have a laptop [aka can use the computer anywhere near your sofa] and the AppleTV box) can be wirelessly mirrored to the TV?
Yes. One of the big differences between consoles and PCs is that consoles are more often connected to a monitor big enough to fit multiple players around, that is, a living room TV. I acknowledge that this doesn't help FPS or RTS, genres that work better over the Internet because they depend on hiding information from other players. But it makes games in gamepad-oriented, console-heavy genres, such as fighting games and party games, far more comfortable to play than if everyone has to crowd around an iMac (especially a smaller one) or the monitor of a Mac mini.
And using hypothetical controllers that don't exist?
USB HID gamepads have been available for PCs and Macs since around 1999 from companies such as Gravis and Logitech. For almost as long there have been adapters to use old consoles' controllers as HIDs. Nintendo and Sony even make Bluetooth gamepads for which hobbyists have developed drivers for various kinds of computers.
Yay! I've been waiting for a decent notification framework to become part of MacOS ever since Growl screwed up mightily after moving to the App Store. Also now I don't have to tweak Mail every single time a new version comes out just to have decent e-mail notification. Was about time...
Agreed. The app store is basically just like a package manager, albeit one with its fingers in your wallet. Consistency and centralized package updates (plus automated dependency handling) have always been things I enjoyed about package managers, so at least in that regard the app store has its benefits.
I also agree about the visual aesthetics of their iOS-matching applications. The literal pen-and-paper look of the notepad or sewn leather look of the to-do list just seem uncharacteristically tacky for Apple. Software that tries to resemble its real-world counterpart like it's still a novelty... what is this, 1995? I'd feel pretty stupid having to rely on that.
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What worries me is this 'Mac OS' and 'iOS' convergence. We have already seen one fatality, the Apple Airport utility. The version on the Mac has now been dumbed down to match the version on iOS. Now there is no access to logs, no way to display the MAC address, no easy way to choose which configuration to import or manage profiles. It is really a POS. Just in case anyone else needs a working Airport utility, 5.6 is still available for download so grab while you can.
It may be that mountain lion is so dumbed down that it is no longer useful for people who want to create actual product and do actual work. In that case we will be left with no mainstream OS, and I suppose I will just have to find some other *nix.
"She's a scientist and a lesbian. She's not going to let it slide." Orphan Black
I still can't wrap my head around one simple issue. The simple one click process which allowed you to take a form letter with a few minor changes and save it has now become this funny process of duplicate and save??? Renaming something and adding steps does not make it simpler. I only updated one system to Lion because this seems to keep on getting in the way....
Keep iOS walled garden on iOS. I don't need silly apps to accomplish tasks I need an OS which will allow me to work. If Apple doesn't have a solution or if the software does not support it I will find my own solution. Sharing is not iCloud, Facebook or Twitter. Those are products. There are thousands or even millions of other solutions out there. Beside iCloud why not FTP/SFTP/SSH? Why no support from the Finder for the iPhone/iPad? Why is there only one way to skin a cat on OsX? As Apple continues with the iOS walled garden the functionality of the desktop is diminishing. My car is not made by Apple and yet I need to interface with it. My phone is not made by Apple because my iPhone could only connect to one computer. 32 gigs and I couldn't use it other than with one computer or a jailbreack.
Common people we are going back to 1983 where Apple products were locked down and limited by the vision of one company. The beauty of OSX is that it is on top of a very powerful OPEN system. As Apple locks this down it's just getting in the way like the ugly notes and contacts interfaces. /RANT
DRM? No thanks, I'll just get it somewhere else...
I run older apps from their .dmg all the time. The main reason is 'cause they're compressed that way - saves some space.
Why would Apple want capsicum?
They already have capabilities and sandboxing. They don't have any particular reason to want ELF. A
Wake me when Apple puts back Rosetta and gets rid of sandboxing.
I would counter that it is completely accurate for a program called "Notepad" to look and behave like a real notepad. If it just wants to be a text editor, well, it can be called that. Or ed, or vim, or edit, or etc... I think it is awesome. (Not a mac user, do not have any Apple devices, and still trying to get used to Gnome 3.) Certain parts of OS X are quite neat, and having a real looking Notepad is one of them. I have been tempted by OS X for a while now. Their 27" iMac seems like a neat platform - that resolution with IPS and a glassy cover is just about what I want. I would almost buy that to run Linux on except my current computer is still sufficient.
"but money is the God of Algiers & Mahomet their prophet." - Rich. O'Bryen June 8th 1786
Since Cougar is another name for Mountain Lion. One can only infer that this is actually an older operating system that is geared to attracting younger audiences.
as Lion was definitely the Vista.
I haven't thought of anything clever to put here, but then again most of you haven't either.
OSX 10.8 is really just what 10.6 should have been.
"does more to integrate social networking and file-synching into a personal computer than any other OS."
a. Mt. Lion it's not out yet.
b. Have you seen Windows 8 preview?
c. Have you used Chrome OS (on paper it can be called a PC)?
I chuckle when I imagine Linux fanboys going crazy over impending releases of kernel revisions...updates are nice, but getting sexual pleasure from new hardware and software is a little odd, mac and windows people.
I'm a Linux fan and user, but I mean, seriously? People act like their wife is popping out a baby when a new apple product rolls out.
Does it fix SAMBA, which was (and still is) horribly broken in 10.7?
I don't suffer from insanity, I enjoy every minute of it! --Longbottle
The social integration had better be optional. I'm not interested in giving companies like FaceBook more personal information.
You can do this if you allowed iOS Apps to run in Mountain Luon!
I would think that, at least at one level, this would be easy to do. I mean the developer environment already runs iOS on intel (in emulation mode). They even have a way of emulating the touch interface (but I'm not sure how good multitouch works).
While a lot of Apps wouldn't really find a market or niche (who needs a basic sketch App when you've got Photoshop) there are hundreds, no thousands (tens of thousands?) of others that would be useful or interesting. Like all the media Apps or perhaps music Apps.
Anyway, I think it would help both Apple and the developers (who could opt out if they wanted to). So why not?
Finally! I was hoping this would be in 10.7, but the ability to stream your desktop to an AppleTV will make meetings a lot easier. No more hooking up to flaky, over-abused video cables.
When did the future switch from being a promise to a threat? -C. Palahniuk
So is this the evolution of Apple's "cat" themes? Pick a general cat name for an odd release, followed by a specialized variant for the even number?
10.5 Leopard
10.6 Snow Leopard
10.7 Lion
10.8 Mountain Lion
Will there be a contest for the next set? I'd like to submit
10.9 Kitty
10.10 Hello Kitty
One man's pink plane is another man's blue plane.
Oh, I don't blame them. I was just curious if someone had a reason they were running applications from .dmg files other than "user error".
I consider it poor design for a dmg-installer to not have the giant instructions showing you dragging the application to the Applications directory. (Bonus points if they include an alias or symlink to the Applications directory within the .dmg!)
Sorry to add to my previous post even before it was modded up (or down!) but it would even be better if Apple released a iMac/workstation like the one HP just did.
Am I crazy? Apple GETTING IDEAS FROM ITS COMPETITORS?!!
Well, HPs new machines have a great new feature. They allow the the display to be folded down FLAT. This allows them, in certain models, to be comfortably used with a TOUCH INTERFACE! Now I would love to use a multi-touch interface on a large surface without having to hold my arm upright ("gorilla arm" syndrome is what it's called).
What do you think?
"Messages, Reminders, Notification Center, Twitter, and more. You love them on iPad. Now you’ll love them on your Mac. And with iCloud, they all work better together. "
But I don't use "Messages, Reminders, Notification Center, Twitter, etc" on my ipad or iPhone so why the Fock do I want them on my iMac, Apple?
A few apps, features that have existed in third-party for years, something copied from Android, vendor tie-in to a service I never use, and a way to make my computer as annoying to use as Vista? I've never seen so many features that already existed in one place before! Innovation is alive and well at Apple! Sign me up! This has to be the best OS X update ever. EVER! EEEEEVVVVEEEERRRRRR!!!!
so what my sex game that apple will put in the store why should my uses have to do jump though hoops to run it?
What about CS 5.5 app store price max is $999 and CS 5.5 costs more then that and 30% of that price is to high.
Another add-on (sorry, the coffee must be really affecting me!).
Anyway, this would be good for Apple because they Google wouldn't easily be able to replicate this. (What are they going to do, ask Microsoft for help in optimizing Android to run under windows?).
I guess they could have Android run under Linux. I will not make any disparaging comments about the size of the user base.
I will agree with PC Magazine on a few points though - why the hell does a notepad have to look like a real life notepad? That's just cutesy stupid bullcrap.
For the same reason that FaceTime has to look like an old-school movie camera, or the YouTube app is an old brown tube television, or the Contacts app is an old leather address book, or the "Phone" icon is an old telephone handset, or the clock app is an old analog circular clock....
It's all about instant recognition. A yellow spiral notepad says "notepad" instead of "word processor", which is probably what Apple doesn't want it to be used as.
Yes, we understand that's how it's SUPPOSED to work. In PRACTICE, however, users often DO run apps from a mounted DMG, or drop the DMG itself into the Applications folder because they don't understand the difference between Transmission.app and Transmission.dmg, even though the icons and behaviors are radically different.
Stop being a dick and realize that reality often does not match a best case scenario.
Is when we get OSX Cougar?
Or even if the file didn't have the reminder what is stopping you?
A brain. Or something along those lines.
I recently took a look at a friend's MacBook (she's actually quite intelligent, just rather mechanically declined). Several apps were being run from .dmgs. I pointed out the installers TOLD YOU IN BIG LETTERS TO MOVE THE FILE INTO THE APP DIRECTORY but since they 'work' just where they were, that's were they stayed.
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
I run older apps from their .dmg all the time. The main reason is 'cause they're compressed that way - saves some space.
So, how did you get that 10 megabyte MFM drive in your iMac?
Faster! Faster! Faster would be better!
It may be that mountain lion is so dumbed down that it is no longer useful for people who want to create actual product and do actual work. In that case we will be left with no mainstream OS, and I suppose I will just have to find some other *nix.
Yeah, after iPhone succeeded (v2), I switched from OSX to Fedora (KDE). It's not as smooth, but it is a bit more powerful. What I'm confident about, though, is that the Mac will be discontinued for a Desktop Edition of iOS (I know the guts are the same, but the user layer and workflows/metaphors) and I don't want to die the slow death and then be left with nothing.
I looked at Apple's page on 10.8 and it looks great for my mother to use, but even less like something I'd want to use. The progress from OSX to iOS has gone one step further - nothing to make me change my conclusion.
The Mac had it's run - it's nice of Apple to give the users a soft landing rather than just dropping it and I understand why they want to go proprietary and profitable.
My God, it's Full of Source!
OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
Supposed to and reality are two different things. In particular, non-admin users like my parents don't have access to copy to Applications, so they have indeed launched apps directly from the downloaded .dmg file.
"Ask them. Ask them every time. Make them tell you to stop asking if they get tired of you asking."
Gatekeeper isn't a virus/malware protector, it is the virus! Or well it is according to the movie "The Net". The writers of that movie should sue the pants off of Apple because they obviously thought of this first... :P
why the hell does a notepad have to look like a real life notepad? That's just cutesy stupid bullcrap.
If you feel that way about Notepad, I STRONGLY suggestion you never open iCal...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I looked at Apple's page on 10.8 and it looks great for my mother to use, but even less like something I'd want to use.
You can just ignore those parts if you want and continue to use the technical bits of OS X. All Apple is doing is adding a layer of easier to use applications atop a core system that is still the same...
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Think about the number of developers of Apple software. Now think about what proportion of them consistently follow good security practices.
Actually, most of them. If you are programming in Objective-C there are no buffer overflow vectors to even worry about, for example... and most of the frameworks guide you do doing things in a secure manner.
The point is though, even if they slip up and hole is found Apple can disable the app for EVERYONE until the application fix is in place. That is really useful for the average user.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
According to a comment by someone else, this option to override is only available to admins and by default non-admins can only run signed apps.
Every user is an admin of their computer. The default is exactly what he described.
Why should that option NOT only be toggle able by an admin account?
Anyone that wants one and is paying them $99 a year to become a developer, yes.
NO! If you just want a signing certificate that is free to acquire, you do need to register with Apple. Only if you want to sell on the App Store are you required to pay the MASSIVE $99/year fee.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
When I restore a machine from a backup, I want to 1) start the process 2) end the process 3) reboot 4) start using the machine. The fact that iPads / iPhones don't do that is a letdown.
How do they not do that?
When you restore an IOS device from an iCloud backup, it downloads all of your apps from the app store, then it downloads all of the data for those apps from iCloud.
That's one process, at the end everything is back to where it was.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
If you only use a Mac because you're a Hipster, Liberal Arts student , Starbucks customer , "$2000 Facebook Machine" or any other non geek then fuck off from Macs. Go back to Windows & IE with 10 toolbars and leave Macs to people who now how to use a terminal and can jailbreak. Linux and Mac may have lower market shares but the barrier to entry is worth it. It's time to toughen up the Mac community now Apple has enough money to have recovered from the dark days of the 90's.
I'm very pissed off with the dumbing down of computing. Windows 8, Gnome 3 Unity and now Mountain lion. If you developers. keep dumbing yourself down you will make Jersey Shore viewers looks like Einstein.
http://www.amazon.com/Windows-Premium-64bit-System-Builder/dp/B004Q0PT3I/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329427079&sr=8-1
Windows 7 OEM version. $99.
Ironically, I think most people buying this are buying it to run in a VM on their Macbook Pro. :)
My God can beat up your God. Just kidding...don't take offense. I know there's no God.
Anybody remember that Gatekeeper was anti-malware for the Macintosh about 20 years ago?
http://homepage.mac.com/chriswjohnson/gatekeeper/gatekeeper-intro/gk-installing.html
I hope there is a easy way to trun if off before a trip to Canada turns into a 20K
iCloud backups happen on WiFi.
That said, you do need to be careful - buy an international data plan beforehand (you can get 50MB which is good for a decent amount of map use) and make sure to reset your network usage meter just as you get there so you can really tell how much of your allotment you have used.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
Also something to consider is that any plan changes you make are pro-rated - so if you buy a 50MB plan, and use all 50MB you need to make sure to wait a month before canceling the plan. Of course, that also means if you only use 20MB you can cancel it after half a month and pay half as much.
Or if you anticipate high data usage for a day buy the 800MB plan for just a few days.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
so what my sex game that apple will put in the store why should my uses have to do jump though hoops to run it?
If you can afford USD 99/year for a Mac Developer Program membership, so you can get a signing key, they won't have to jump through hoops to run it unless they've explicitly told Gatekeeper to warn about non-App Store apps from identified developers.
Why do you think I brought this up? Tons and tons of Mac owners who are none too savvy simply run a program from a .dmg and then when they reboot because of an update or whatever, "forget" where they "installed" the program. Then they bother me.
I have dealt with this more times than I would like to recall and I welcome our new App Store overlords.
Realistically you never need to enter any credit card information in order to get an account and use the App Store. Yes, it sells commercial software but there's an awful lot of free stuff on there too.
Heck they even upgraded 5.6 just a few weeks ago.
Airport Utility as it stands now is probably more suited for the generic mom that everybody mentions, and I think that's fine.
Again, though I don't see Apple ever going over to an iOS type interface with no way out for OS X. After all, somebody will have to make the Mac applications...
Your theory sounds good but it falls flat when you consider it deeply.
Who will make the OS X applications, if as you predict they totally lock it down with no way out?
Also, how is Fedora "more powerful" than OS X? I guess it depends on what you want to do. For me, photography and digital music are big reasons to use a computer, and the current state of the art in open source in both those areas is just terribly embarrassing. Shameful, really.
I would be interested in hearing what things you can run on Linux that you can not run on OS X (no Wine here, remember I have that on the Mac too). I don't really think it is necessary to list all the software and hardware I can use with my Mac that you can not with Linux.
Third benefit. Buy once, put on all your Macs. Buy once, put on you Mac any time you restore the OS. Buy once, put it on the new Mac you buy next week. Buy once, put it on a friend's machi......errr, um wait, I didn't say that.
Purchases from the Mac App store skip that step. Purchases go right into /Applications. I never thought installing an app could get easier than the "drag this to the Application folder", but it has.
Was Apple afraid of a photoshopped iMac hanging around and trying to be fucked by young tablets?
and the free iCloud sharing service
Just like my old .Mac account? That lasted a whole two years before Apple reneged on their initial deal and started charging for the service. Back then, it wasn't easy to archive email, so I lost a lot of personal email and had to tell everyone to use a new eddress. What a pain in the ass that was.
No sig for you! Come back one year!
Is it just me or does GateKeeper sound like a "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish" for Third Party app development.
It looks as though it will push Non Apple partnered software in to the "Too Hard to install" basket for most people.
The most evenhanded analysis I've seen. If Apple isn't pulling a slippery slope than this is a step forward. If it end up being a way to kill non-appstore/signed apps then it is a step backward. It's really to early to tell which is the case.
Sadly I agree with AndreR. Lots of users do exactly what he said. Mac users are just as smart or dumb as their Windows counterparts after all.
I'm surprised that the long list of newly unsupported Macs isn't seen as more important than app signing. Here is a list of Macs unsupported by Mountain Lion: Any Intel Core 2 Duo MacBook from late 2007 to late 2008, Mid 2007 Mac mini, Late 2006 polycarbonate iMac, Early 2008 MacBook Air.
after all the Service Packs and/or paid versions and/or whatever else, you're still stuck with Windows.
Lousy deal.
The facts are OSX is not as user friendly as windows now before you all go mad and spam yet another flaming war think about it from an average users point of view, with windows you can go anywhere that sells computer products including kmart, woolworths supermarkets if you feel like it and buy a keyboard, mouse,webcam, printer, lcd, etc whereas you cannot do this with a mac.
If the average user dose run into a problem it is far easier for them to find someone to help them with there windows platform this is why windows is popular and this is why most people use windows.
As far as cost linux for personal use is FREE and it will certainly do everything a mac can do but it falls short on windows in some features in various areas especially in home networking microsoft have made this so easy for the average user it is brilliant remember this is about the average user here point click works ok.
Ubuntu is free zero to install on as many machines in your home as you see fit can the average person use linux yes to a point until they need to install the HP printer they bought down the road then they are stuffed the same deal if they were running OSX there most likely wouldn't be a driver to suit.
this is where windows wins out over every other OS out there and for the average user windows suits there needs far better than anything else on the market proof is in its popularity.
osx and linux have been around for a long time now and have hardly made a dent on windows domination of the desktop.
The average user buys a pc with windows pre installed this is bundled into the price of the unit making windows virtually free and then in 5 years or less they buy another new pc with windows pre installed.
I chuckle when I imagine Linux fanboys going crazy over impending releases of kernel revisions
The equivalent wouldn't be a new kernel revision, it'd be something like Ubuntu 13.01 "Wonder Warthog", but I'm not sure there's even as much hyperventilation about new distribution releases or even new desktop environment releases (most of the new features being touted here are at layers of software closer to KDE or GNOME than at the kernel layer; I really doubt anybody was jumping for joy because, say, Lion finally correctly supported select()/poll() on BPF devices...).
When I'm trying new software out I frequently run it directly from the .dmg file. If I like it I copy it to Applications. If I don't I just dismount the .dmg. It saves me the hassle of having to open up the Applications folder, finding the program, then deleting it.
10.7 - was the initial release of Lion and was a a paid update for 29.99 on the mac app store.
10.7.1 - was the first "service pack" for Lion and is free.
10.7.2 - was the second update.
10.7.3 - was the third service pack.
If history is any indicator, Apple will deliver a few more service packs for Lion before 10.8 Mountain Lion is released as a paid update for a round 30 dollars.
Critical updates and new printer drivers are delivered by Apple through software update in between 10.x.x "service packs" for free.
The only difference between a service pack on windows and a 10.x.x release on OS X is the frequency that they are released by Apple versus MSFT's releases.
Paid updates from both companies include new API calls whereas service packs and 10.x.x update generally do not.
Hopefully, this will clear up some of the confusion caused by the FUD spread by others on this site and others.
Jesus was a compassionate social conservative who called individuals to sin no more.
Did Apple miss the boat, or rather boarded the boat to Hades cross the river Styx?
We have already had 'Panther' which in some places is a name used for 'Couger' i.e. Mountain Lion!
Ah Ha!
No I get it.
See, OS X 10.8 is older and more experienced than 10.7 and outclasses 10.3.
So what Apple Marketing really had in mind, as in Freudian Slip, is that 'Mountain Lion' i.e. 'Cougar' is an older woman on the hunt for a younger man (i.e. Apple fan boy).
Lets see how the crowds 'Man Up' to this one!
The chaps at Apple Marketing are simply geniuses.
will this here fancy new software make my (cr)Apple super de duper?
i can't wait to waste more money on it and make (cr)Apple more richer.....
if electricity is created by electrons, is morality created by morons?