Han Solo To Reportedly Return For Star Wars VII

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Han Solo To Reportedly Return For Star Wars VII

Posted by Soulskill on Friday February 15, 2013 @06:35AM from the can-make-the-kessel-run-with-or-without-his-dentures dept.

eldavojohn writes "El Mayimbe (who has a history of scooping movie news) has been picked up by Fox News Latino as claiming that Harrison Ford is confirmed to return for Star Wars VII (about 7 minutes in)."

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I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:37 · Score: 0

.. cause really - he's just too good for what Star Wars has become.
1. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:43 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  .. cause really - he's just too good for what Star Wars has become.
  Well he was part of what Indiana Jones has become.
2. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by cervesaebraciator · 2013-02-15 07:06 · Score: 3
  
  True enough. But his acting wasn't the problem with that movie. Karen Allen wasn't bad either. It was, well, parts of the plot, the script, and that weasely little fellow who wore black leather was swinging in the trees with the monkeys. For his part, Harrison Ford made that movie more palatable than any of the prequels since he, at least, was still likable.
3. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Intrepid+imaginaut · 2013-02-15 07:21 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Both Han Solo and Indie are action heroes though, and I mean let's face it, not too many people in their 70s make for an inspiring action hero. They can play almost any other role but there's a physical element to the two fisted pulp role.
  Obviously Sean Connery is the exception to that rule.
4. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by filthpickle · 2013-02-15 07:27 · Score: 1
  
  In our new era of HGH fueled older action stars he may be able to pull it off. Between that and the camera swinging around everywhere.
5. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by meerling · 2013-02-15 07:36 · Score: 1
  
  He's so freaking old now that for him to play Han, they're going to have to put that bajillion dollars into the computer animated version of him because his wrinkled and leathery face can't play the part unless they say he got aged 300 years by a sith or something. Same with Mark Hamil playing Luke Skywalker again.
  They are just too damn old for their original castings.
6. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by mrbester · 2013-02-15 07:41 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  When as old as Han Solo you get, look as good you will not.
  
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7. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by bitt3n · 2013-02-15 07:43 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  .. cause really - he's just too good for what Star Wars has become.
  He belongs in a museum!
  
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8. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by perpenso · 2013-02-15 07:45 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Both Han Solo and Indie are action heroes though, and I mean let's face it, not too many people in their 70s make for an inspiring action hero. They can play almost any other role but there's a physical element to the two fisted pulp role.
  Obviously Sean Connery is the exception to that rule.
  Alec Guinness pulled it off as old Ben Kenobi in Episode 4. They are after all swinging light sabers not steel broadswords. :-)
9. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by AK+Marc · 2013-02-15 07:49 · Score: 1
  
  Liam Neeson seems to be doing well as an action hero, at only 10 years younger than Harrison Ford.
  
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10. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Reapy · 2013-02-15 07:51 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Aren't they moving into the next generation of characters? It is pretty easy for them to play their characters aged the same as the actors are, han grows up in the star wars world the same way harrison ford does.
11. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:51 · Score: 0
  
  Just add CGI. Moar biggerer.
12. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by zAPPzAPP · 2013-02-15 07:52 · Score: 2
  
  Indiana Jones was awesome.
  I loved the part, where Indy was on a plane and then he put an egg into the microwave, so that the stewaredess would come and clean it up.
  You know, she was blocking Indy's path to the toilet before. But he outsmarted her.
  Such an inspiring movie.
13. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by ebinrock · 2013-02-15 07:58 · Score: 1
  
  Don't forget Bruce Willis, who just did the fifth Die Hard movie. He's gotta be an old fart by now.
14. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by pesho · 2013-02-15 08:07 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Don't forget Bruce Willis, who just did the fifth Die Hard movie. He's gotta be an old fart by now.
  Ok, I am confused. Is the example of the Die Hard 5 movies supposed to support or counter the parent's point of view. Please clarify.
15. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:08 · Score: 0
  
  Don't forget the lens flares
16. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Bigby · 2013-02-15 08:11 · Score: 2
  
  Clint Eastwood
17. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by CohibaVancouver · 2013-02-15 08:17 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Alec Guinness pulled it off as old Ben Kenobi in Episode 4.
  "Episode 4?" F*ck off. Guinness pulled it off in Star Wars. Now get off my lawn.
  
  Oh and BTW, Guinness's age when Star Wars was released? 63. Ford turned 63 in 2005.
18. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by mythosaz · 2013-02-15 08:18 · Score: 2
  
  I hope they CGI out the awful earring holes he has in his lobes. HD does a wonderful job of pulling me back to reality when I see old men with pierced ears.
  http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/2/7/8/37278.jpg?v=1
19. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Teresita · 2013-02-15 08:20 · Score: 2
  
  Ford turned 63 in 2005.
  
  That's why this will be titled Star Wars VII: Attack of the Gums.
20. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by WrecklessSandwich · 2013-02-15 08:25 · Score: -1
  
  I don't like the prequels either but um, it was called Episode 4 in the intro. Just sayin.
21. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:29 · Score: 0
  
  Great. So he can shit all over the remaining part of his movie legacy.
22. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:32 · Score: 0
  
  Sitting in a seat say, "hang on kid", isn't exactly your typical action hero role. Look at what he's actually done in the role of Han Solo. Its never been physically demanding. I can't think of him doing anything more physically demanding than a light sprint.
23. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:33 · Score: 1
  
  Actually it was only retconned as Episode 4 for the re-release around the time Empire Strikes Back came out. Those of us who saw the original theatrical release just saw "Star Wars" and it wasn't clear whether "A New Hope" was part of the title or not.
24. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by MrYingster · 2013-02-15 08:34 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  I think he's referring to the original theatrical release where the episode number and title were not present. It was presented as "Star Wars". If I am not mistaken, the episode number and title, A New Hope, we added on subsequent at-home releases.
25. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:35 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  The very first cut did NOT have Episode IV in the crawl, because Fox made Lucas take it out. In every subsequent printing, he inserted it back in without telling them.
  
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26. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by BBTaeKwonDo · 2013-02-15 08:36 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Not in the original release in theaters it wasn't. And Han shot first! What are you still doing on my lawn?
27. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Teresita · 2013-02-15 08:37 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  The very first cut did NOT have Episode IV in the crawl, because Fox made Lucas take it out. In every subsequent printing, he inserted it back in without telling them.
  
  Kids these days! I was there, I was 11, it was just "Star Wars" and supposed to be a one-off, and only when we sat down and saw the crawl for Empire did we find out we're in the middle of a nine-part trilogy of trilogies, subsequently pared back to a hexology.
28. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:58 · Score: 0
  
  Good thing Star Wars 7 takes place after Star Wars 6.
29. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:05 · Score: -1
  
  Sorry, I'll get off your lawn once I've finished shitting on it. The shit's hard, so it may take while. Guess I need more ruffage.
30. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by bigdavex · 2013-02-15 09:06 · Score: 1
  
  Not in the original version.
  
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31. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:17 · Score: 1
  
  Obi-Wan Kenobi wasn't a 'two fisted' 'physical' character. He was a mentor. Calm and collected, even in the face of death.
32. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by quacking+duck · 2013-02-15 09:19 · Score: 5, Informative
  
  Whaddya mean, Han shot "first"? Han was the *only* one who shot.
33. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by segedunum · 2013-02-15 09:21 · Score: 1
  
  It was, well, parts of the plot, the script, and that weasely little fellow who wore black leather was swinging in the trees with the monkeys.
  Errr, yer. Basically anything that George Lucas came up with. I have a feeling that Speilberg was somewhat less than happy with the outcome with Lucas and there will be absolutely no other Indiana Jones films. Ever.
34. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by k3vlar · 2013-02-15 09:34 · Score: 1
  
  I've nicknamed the new Die Hard movie "DIE HARD OF OLD AGE" because of this.
  
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35. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by tompaulco · 2013-02-15 09:47 · Score: 1
  
  Same with Mark Hamil playing Luke Skywalker again.
  You mean like in Return of the Jedi, where he looked like he had aged 20 years in the year that was supposed to have passed after Empire Strikes Back?
  
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36. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by spleendamage · 2013-02-15 10:07 · Score: 5, Funny
  
  DIE HARD OF HEARING
37. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by superdave80 · 2013-02-15 10:17 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  WHAT?!?!
38. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 10:22 · Score: 0
  
  .. cause really - he's just too good for what Star Wars has become.
  He belongs in a museum!
  So do you!
39. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by tmach · 2013-02-15 12:02 · Score: 1
  
  Take out the words "parts of" and I agree totally.
40. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 13:00 · Score: 0
  
  Obi-Wan Kenobi wasn't a 'two fisted' 'physical' character. He was a mentor. Calm and collected, even in the face of death.
  Obi Wan was quite physical in his youth and had to be reigned in by his mentor. Why wouldn't Han also become calmer and more collected in his old age? Besides, even in old age Obi Wan got quite physical and deadly in the Mos Eisley Cantina when needed. I'm sure old Han can pick up and use a Blaster as well as old Obi Wan picked up a light saber.
41. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 18:25 · Score: 0
  
  Lies! LIES!
  *runs away crying*
42. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by chrismcb · 2013-02-16 00:09 · Score: 1
  
  CGI? Its called makeup
43. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Common+Joe · 2013-02-16 10:09 · Score: 1
  
  It wasn't really nine parts... even if Lucas said it was. It was supposed to be a just a movie like the old serials that Lucas used to watch. A dry, but very fascinating book anyway, is The Secret History of Star Wars It used to be free, but it looks like they are selling it now. Supposedly, the first 100 pages are free. It's amazing how much research this guy did. It will change your way of thinking about how Star Wars developed.
44. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Hognoxious · 2013-02-16 10:54 · Score: 1
  
  It's bad, but it's not in the same league as bawdy-heided bastards with pony tails.
  
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45. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by RockDoctor · 2013-02-16 12:26 · Score: 1
  
  I don't like the prequels either but um, it was called Episode 4 in the intro.
  Are you sure? I remember seeing the original - it was the start of about a 20-year run of not bothering to go to the movies at all - and I don't recall any mention of "Episode IV", or "4", or whatever then. Just "long long ago" and "far far away".
  Anyway ... that's still the only one of the Star Wars franchise that I've seen in it's entirety. I've seen bits of the others - probably - but only when I've not had the choice of what to tune the Recreation Room TV into.
  
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46. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Vlado · 2013-02-16 23:39 · Score: 1
  
  Is there any information on how long after episode VI the new movie is supposed to happen?
  They may all be just the right age for their characters.
47. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by Wolfrider · 2013-02-19 05:36 · Score: 1
  
  --Not seeing a downside... Indiana Jones does NOT ride "bitch" position on the motorcycle. They really messed that one up.
  
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48. Re:I hope they paid him a bajillion dollars.... by stoatwblr · 2013-02-21 10:36 · Score: 1
  
  I watched the theatrical release as a kid, i can clearly remember thinking "episode IV? I've mssed the first 3!" Being (until my mid-30s) slightly obsessional about seeing movies and reading books in the order they were released....
This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:37 · Score: 0

Horrible.... I remember when Star Wars was amazing... It's been dying a slow death the last 15 years
1. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by interkin3tic · 2013-02-15 06:43 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Yes, but why was it dying? I'm convinced it's declining health was largely due to no one having the balls to tell George Lucas what parts of his movies were salvageable and which parts were absolutely shit.
  
  Like, anyone working on Episode one. Pod racing specifically. Anyone say "Hey, uh, maybe we cut pod racing down to a few minutes. Or out entirely?" Jar Jar Binks. Anyone mention to George that putting a minstrel in Star Wars was idiotic? No, of course not. He's fucking George Lucas. Nevermind that he had a lot of help making the movies that were decent.
2. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:47 · Score: 0
  
  It was, is and always will a children's series.
  It isn't for the fanboys.
3. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by dywolf · 2013-02-15 06:48 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  the pod race was the most entertaining part of the entire film.
  
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4. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:49 · Score: 0
  
  Horrible.... I remember when Star Wars was amazing... It's been dying a slow death the last 15 years
  Or maybe you grew older and had more to compare it against. The kiddies with simple palettes and little experience seem to like episodes 1-3, much as we did when we were children during episode 4 and teenagers during episode 5. YMMV.
5. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by xevioso · 2013-02-15 06:52 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  Now, now. There was nothing wrong with the pod racing, at least compared to anything in the original trilogy. It was all the other crap. In facyt, in the Red letter Media review of the movies, I don't think Mr. Plinkett really rails on the Pod Racing at all. The stupid wager Qui-Gonn makes BEFORE the racing, now that was dumb. I actually remember the pod racing as being the best part of the movie.
6. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by zAPPzAPP · 2013-02-15 06:55 · Score: 1
  
  At least Pod Racing gave us StarWars:PodRacer.
  That was a pretty entertaining, though simple game. And it ran fluid on my trash PC.
7. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:56 · Score: 0
  
  was largely due to no one having the balls to tell George
  Nope. George is by now completely devoid of ideas. So there's all these motherfuckers that surround him and give him ideas. And, just drunk with the popularity he enjoys, George says "Sure! Let's do that," and then the true hearts cringe at the catastrophe of film.
8. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by MightyMartian · 2013-02-15 06:58 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  The problem was that Lucas was too rich and too capable of doing whatever he wanted regardless of input. It was a hard fast rule of the original trilogy that the better the film, the less Lucas directly had to do with it. The problem with the prequels is that Lucas was deeply involved. He was literally able, especially by the prequels, to do anything he wanted it, and did it all to excess. The prequels had every flaw in Lucas's inabilities with plotting and dialogue that the old films did, but magnified many times over.
  But worst of all, even under good direction, I think the prequels would have been lame. We already knew the outline of what had happened; that the Old Republic fell, that the Emperor perverted Anakin Skywalker into Darth Vader, that Skywalker's children had been separated so that the Emperor could not gain both of them. The prequels were inevitably going to be little more than a "fill in the blanks" exercise, and would be necessarily anticlimactic. But Lucas could even do that exercise right; throwing in midichlorians, pointless characters, theme worlds and dull chase scenes, not to mention not even being able to stick to the elements of the story line as they stood at the end of RotJ. One of the most jarring things to me was Padme dying immediately after giving birth to Luke and Leia, when we know from RotJ that Leia was old enough to vaguely remember her mother.
  I have some hope that a return of the original main characters and under solid new direction with writers not hampered by Lucas's problems and desire to transform Star Wars from Hidden Fortress In Space to some sort of political statement, this new trilogy can at least recapture some of the old spirit.
  
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9. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by istartedi · 2013-02-15 07:02 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  What??? No pod racing? You don't understand the Star Wars formula. Every movie has to have a vertigo inducing chase that forces some of us to turn away from the big screen.
  IV -- trench run attack on the Death Star.
  V -- attack on Hoth, cockpit views
  VI -- speeders through the forest (actually redwoods in NorCal, which everyone should visit at least once)
  Pod racing held true to the formula. Unfortunately, I was so turned off by everything *else* in that movie that I couldn't muster the interest to see the others. I don't know if they had good big screen freek-out chases or not. That was just part of the beauty of those movies though. They could give you the 3-d freakout without glasses.
  
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10. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by witherstaff · 2013-02-15 07:03 · Score: 2
  
  The sandpeople sniping pod racers was the best part of the whole movie. At least that's the scene I remember from watching it once.
11. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by TrippTDF · 2013-02-15 07:04 · Score: 5, Interesting
  
  Star Wars may be the brainchild of Lucas, but Gary Kurtz is what gave it its soul. My theory is that once Kurtz and Lucas split after Empire, the franchise was toast. Kurtz wanted Jedi to be much darker, Lando and the Falcon were to be destroyed during the battle, and no happy teddy bear celebration at the end. In my mind, this would have been a much more powerful film.
  
  If you look at the tone of Jedi, especially the Ewoks, it is easy to see that Lucas was starting to get no critical feedback of his ideas. Kurtz filled this role. Without him, the franchise falls apart and we wind up with the crap that was the prequels. Lucas is a terrible director on his own. Just awful.
  
  This is why I have high hopes for Ep. 7- Lucas is out the door, and Abrams probably understands what Star Wars means to the fans better than Lucas ever did. I just hope that Ford's role isn't too similar to Nemoy's role in Abram's Star Trek movie... a star cameo that helps our protagonist when he needs it most.
12. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2013-02-15 07:08 · Score: 1
  
  Lucas sold $2 billion in merchandising rights. You need pod races for toy pod cars, dolls, and 2-headed announcers.
  I'm not saying its awesome ("Roger, Roger!" -- The joke so funny Lucas used it twice!), but the tail wags the dog here. Expect even more of the same.
  
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13. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Sir_Eptishous · 2013-02-15 07:09 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Nobody told Christopher Nolan how awful the last Batman film was with like, 90 minutes of pure pablum.
  Nobody told Peter Jackson how awful The Hobbit, episode 1 was with like, 2 hours of pure cgi wanking.
  Nobody told JJ Abrams how completely ridiculous the screenplay to Star Trek was by... AGAIN!!! using time travel... and Spock Prime(Spock Prime? What is that, where you get your time travel even faster?)
  
  We have entered a new realm here, a realm where directors ruin films that could be great, but end up ok, or passable.
  Why?
  Because they can't help themselves, and there is an "Emperor Wears no Clothes" mindset with these guys.
  
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14. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by thomasw_lrd · 2013-02-15 07:09 · Score: 2, Insightful
  
  You're spot on, but I always took that part in ROTJ to think she was speaking of her adoptive mother.
  
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15. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by JudgeFurious · 2013-02-15 07:11 · Score: 1
  
  You know, I wonder if Lucas understood that the prequels would necessarily be a "fill in the blanks" excercise and tried to avert that with all that added shit that nobody liked. I don't think he's by any means as completely out of touch as many think. I think he's every bit is incompetent as your post portrays him though so I think he tried to fill out the already carved in stone narrative with bad ideas not knowing the difference between good ideas and bad ones anymore.
  
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16. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by hal2814 · 2013-02-15 07:17 · Score: 1
  
  Two characters from Star Wars were completely and totally awesome: Han Solo and Darth Vader. Han wasn't in the prequels at all. Vader got maybe 5 minutes of screen time and IIRC Vader doesn't even force choke someone, threaten people, or do any other badassery in that 5 minutes. He just whines and breaks stuff. The decision to bring back just about everyone in the Star Wars universe except for its two resident badasses is just as terrible as all of those Police Academy movies that happened after Steve Guttenberg said "Fuck it. I'm outta here." Tackleberry is cool but he can't carry a movie.
17. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by MightyMartian · 2013-02-15 07:19 · Score: 4, Interesting
  
  I am old enough to remember watching Episode IV in the theater in its first run in 1977 (mainly remember my dad going "Wow!" a lot). And yes, when I was a kid, Star Wars was the THING. I remember my dad buying my brother and I our first figurines; Darth Vader, Han Solo, Luke Skywalker, Obiwan, Chewbacca , Princess Leia and a Storm Trooper, in the days before toys had to be safe and they came with little tiny detachable guns. I was very popular when I brought them to school.
  I recently rewatched all six films from prequels through to original trilogy. I'll freely admit that Episode IV is pretty cheesy, but no worse than your average cowboy film, and part of its charm lies in the underlying goofiness. The most awkward parts of the first film are the Jedi mysticism, and I can imagine Alec Guinness coughing on some of the neo-hippy lines Obiwan was spouting. The second one, other than the Hoth battle which went on a little long, is by far still the best. In RotJ, the whole Jabba's Palace sequence just takes too long, but once we're into the action, it's a pretty decent film with an ending that ties up the loose ends.
  The prequels just don't stand up. Elements are not bad, in particular Ewan McGregor's casting as Obiwan and the return of Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine. I won't go into how awful Jar Jar is, or how bad an actor Hayden Christensen is. Suffice it to say that, pull all the flash, and these are inferior works made by a guy who had made what was originally a whiz-bang set of adventure films with characters that you could care about, and turned into a ponderous bad-dialogue laden set of films where you really couldn't give a shit by the end if Padme died or whether Anakin became Darth Vader or not.
  
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18. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Xphile101361 · 2013-02-15 07:21 · Score: 2
  
  But worst of all, even under good direction, I think the prequels would have been lame. We already knew the outline of what had happened; that the Old Republic fell, that the Emperor perverted Anakin Skywalker into Darth Vader, that Skywalker's children had been separated so that the Emperor could not gain both of them. The prequels were inevitably going to be little more than a "fill in the blanks" exercise, and would be necessarily anticlimactic
  Based upon watching The Clone Wars TV series, I have to disagree. You walk into the series knowing all of the key points about main characters and the war as a whole, republic wins, Palpatine is secretly a sith, etc. Almost every episode is better than any prequel movie when it comes to plot, dialogue and characters. If this team would have been given the reigns to develop the prequel movies and Lucas only played a consulting role... I think the galaxy far far away would have been much better.
19. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:21 · Score: 0
  
  Remember the digital added effects version of IV was "The Star Wars" that Lucas wanted to make but there was not the technology to do so. Also excellent editing made the film well paced rather than the clunkers that he came out with when he had not the same editors.
20. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:21 · Score: 0
  
  This is why I have high hopes for Ep. 7- Lucas is out the door, and Abrams probably understands what Star Wars means to the fans better than Lucas ever did. I just hope that Ford's role isn't too similar to Nemoy's role in Abram's Star Trek movie... a star cameo that helps our protagonist when he needs it most.
  Just imagine, speeders through a forest, but with Solar Flares.
21. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by rudy_wayne · 2013-02-15 07:22 · Score: 1
  
  Horrible.... I remember when Star Wars was amazing... It's been dying a slow death the last 15 years
  Or maybe you grew older and had more to compare it against. The kiddies with simple palettes and little experience seem to like episodes 1-3, much as we did when we were children during episode 4 and teenagers during episode 5. YMMV.
  That;s the problem with memories.
  You remember the original trilogy as being amazing and fantastic. And they were -- by 1977 standards. 35 years later, not so much. What you are actually remembering is not the movie itself but the feeling of amazement you felt when you first saw it.
22. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Howitzer86 · 2013-02-15 07:23 · Score: 1
  
  What's unfortunate about Jar Jar is that his character design was in my opinion - really fricken good. He's also the only one of his kind who acts like a damned sideshow. His character could have easily be changed to be more useful and more like the others. Perhaps he could have been an honorable but slightly clumsy warrior or something. Something perhaps more deserving of that senate seat he would get later on.
23. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by MightyMartian · 2013-02-15 07:24 · Score: 1
  
  I think we all long ago came to grips with the fact that what Lucas says "I originally intended" has always been highly variable.
  
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24. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Intrepid+imaginaut · 2013-02-15 07:26 · Score: 1
  
  In my mind, this would have been a much more powerful film.
  It would to my mind have been a much more confused film. The original movies were black and white, good and bad, clean cut heroic fantasy. Introducing nuances like the rough diamond hero perishing would have jarred even more than Jar Jar.
25. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by ArcadeMan · 2013-02-15 07:28 · Score: 1
  
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26. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by GodfatherofSoul · 2013-02-15 07:28 · Score: 2
  
  OMG you're a genius! Lucas has been rehashing the same "vehicles moving at high speed" formula for 30 years!
  
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27. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by GodfatherofSoul · 2013-02-15 07:33 · Score: 2
  
  And, nobody told you the difference between hyperbolic, headline-grabbing crucifixion and thoughtful criticism. Most of these sci-fi movies that induce Slashdot nerd rage seems to somehow build up a big fan base, revenue, and many-many repeat viewings. Yet, the critically acclaimed sci-fi flicks get nothing more than quiet whimpering over how poor the quality is of your pirated copy.
  
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28. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by poity · 2013-02-15 07:37 · Score: 2
  
  Anyone say "Hey, uh, maybe we cut pod racing down to a few minutes. Or out entirely?"
  George: Rick, fire that man, we're doing the scene.
  
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29. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:40 · Score: 0
  
  We got back them in SWTOR.
30. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Intrepid+imaginaut · 2013-02-15 07:40 · Score: 1
  
  You remember the original trilogy as being amazing and fantastic. And they were -- by 1977 standards. 35 years later, not so much. What you are actually remembering is not the movie itself but the feeling of amazement you felt when you first saw it.
  I think they've stood up pretty well to the test of time. Part of that is that CGI still doesn't look real, the models used in the movies ring truer. Another part is there was no effort to try to produce something complicated in terms of plot, this was sheer larger than life pulp, end of story, and this is what a lot of people don't get - trying to make it more sophisticated wrecks that timeless effect, as we saw with the prequels. This world was never meant to be nuanced, it's a fairy tale in the best possible sense.
  I'd say if the movies were released for the first time tomorrow, they'd do just as well.
31. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Aqualung812 · 2013-02-15 07:42 · Score: 1
  
  I - Pod Race
  II - Chase in skycars after assassin in Coruscant
  III - Battle above Coruscant to capture Count Dooku
  You're welcome. Good point, though. I don't suffer from the same issues, but after you pointed them out, they're hard to miss.
  
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32. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by MightyMartian · 2013-02-15 07:45 · Score: 1
  
  Oh, I think the prequels could have been done better, but ultimately we know how the story goes, and most importantly we know the ending. Certainly better writers could have told it far far better, but I still think that sequels are ultimately going to stand up better than prequels.
  The chief problem now is whether they're going to deal with the bazillion novels and comics that make up the Expanded Universe. If they try to fit these films into that universe, they may suffer a lot of the same problems the prequels had. If they don't, a lot of expanded universe fans are going to be pissed.
  
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33. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by JDG1980 · 2013-02-15 07:47 · Score: 2
  
  The problem was that Lucas was too rich and too capable of doing whatever he wanted regardless of input. It was a hard fast rule of the original trilogy that the better the film, the less Lucas directly had to do with it. The problem with the prequels is that Lucas was deeply involved. He was literally able, especially by the prequels, to do anything he wanted it, and did it all to excess. The prequels had every flaw in Lucas's inabilities with plotting and dialogue that the old films did, but magnified many times over.
  The problem isn't that Lucas had input, it's that essentially no one else did. All writers have a blind spot with their own writing. You need an extra set of critical eyes – someone to look over the script and say "This doesn't make any sense" or "This part just isn't entertaining" or "We need more reason for the audience to care about plot point X".
  Letting a writer/director have full control over the creative process is usually a disaster. Google "Heaven's Gate" for one particularly egregious example – $40 million (in 1980 dollars!) squandered on a mediocre, 3.5-hour Western that no one really wanted to see.
34. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by keith_nt4 · 2013-02-15 07:49 · Score: 1
  
  I disagree with the idea that the prequels could only be a fill-in-the blank affair: the same could have been said for the LotRs trilogy but it still managed to be turned into something enjoyable with near-universal appeal (Pippen and Merry seem to have their own following, for instance) even though whether you read the book(s) or not the ending seemed like a fore-gone conclusion.
  
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35. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:53 · Score: 0
  
  Which is the only explanation that would make sense. That is, if it weren't for the fact that Luke specifically asks about her real mother. Or maybe Lucas changed the dialogue for that scene as well and I'm remembering it the "wrong" way...
36. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Reapy · 2013-02-15 07:55 · Score: 1
  
  Not to mention star wars was the star destroyers, storm troopers, xwings, tie fighters, and generally a junked up craft design, instead we get like 1980's portrayal of 'future tech' sleek and glossy crap designs, and not a single thing of the star wars set / ship design that made star wars, star wars.
37. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by AK+Marc · 2013-02-15 07:58 · Score: 3, Insightful
  
  Knowing the ending doesn't make the journey necessarily less enjoyable. I've re-read books. I've re-watched movies. Knowing the ending (without knowing the plot) isn't an issue. Even knowing the plot isn't a show-stopper. Shakespeare is still popular, curiously more popular among those who have read it. So those who know the plot best enjoy it most.
  
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38. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Bucc5062 · 2013-02-15 08:01 · Score: 1
  
  you mean like Gimli in LOTR. I read the book,watched the movie and wondered who taht short funny character was for it was not Gimli. More like Gimli's brother goofy.
  
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39. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by mark-t · 2013-02-15 08:04 · Score: 1
  
  News flash.... The character of Jar Jar isn't supposed to be a particularly likeable one... he's supposed to be an incompetent goof whose gullibility directly leads to Senator Palpatine's ascent to power as Emperor.
  
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40. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by AK+Marc · 2013-02-15 08:07 · Score: 1
  
  The problem is I have I-VI on video, and have showed them to my children (3 and 7) and they prefer IV-VI.
  
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41. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by T.E.D. · 2013-02-15 08:12 · Score: 1
  Or maybe you grew older and had more to compare it against.
  The problem with that argument is that it has a very short window. It works perhaps for my pre-teen late 70's self. However, it doesn't work at all for:
  
  Objective numbers for the audiences. If you adjust for inflation, Star Wars (original movie) is the second box office grosser of all time, barely being beaten out by Gone with the Wind. No other movie in the series even makes the top 10. I remember more than a month after the Star Wars release waiting in a line wrapping around the theater for a ticket. We'd all pass the time in line comparing how many times we'd already seen it. I remember six times being a pretty ho-hum number. You just do not see that today. Heck you don't even see it for opening day on a Star Wars sequel.
  My father, who by your accounting was a jaded adult with better things to compare it to at the time. He was more gaga over the first movie than I was. He bought a newfangled VCR just so he could watch it more (on a pirated tape. They didn't officially release it for years).
  My kids, most of whom are young enough that they got to experience all of the movies for the first time on home video. They are all convinced the first series, are way better.
  The fact is, most folks are not Gen-Xers.
42. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Cinder6 · 2013-02-15 08:20 · Score: 1
  
  It does have plenty of kids stuff, but it also has a lot of stuff that's completely over the top of most kids' heads (trade federation, galactic senate, etc.), and not to mention a lot of violence (in particular, Revenge of the Sith is PG-13). The original trilogy was more kid-friendly, but it was also adult-friendly (though the ewoks were pushing it). I don't think it's unreasonable at all that adults should expect to enjoy the films.
  
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43. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by tuba_ranger · 2013-02-15 08:22 · Score: 1
  
  I remember seeing episode I with the gang from work. I literally fell asleep during the movie.
44. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by noh8rz10 · 2013-02-15 08:24 · Score: 0
  
  The prequels had every flaw in Lucas's inabilities with plotting and dialogue that the old films did, but magnified many times over.
  George Lucas sucks at dialog? Noooooooooooo!
45. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by mythosaz · 2013-02-15 08:28 · Score: 1
  
  I'm "that guy" too. I was 8 when Star Wars came out. I saw it almost every day the next summer at the local theater. I remember when we first got our Betamax copy of the movie (pirated, of course)... ...but it was all a fluke. It was an amazing, unrepeatable, moment in history.
  Sure, lines for summer blockbusters happened for the next 10 years, but the magic that was Star Wars won't happen again. ...but you look back at it now, 35 years in the rear view window, and judge it simply as a film... ...it's 'meh'.
  We experienced that magic back in 77 (and 78, and 79 as we kept going to the theaters and watching our bootlegs). We had the bedsheets and the McToys. Part of watching it now IS remembering that magic. ...but not the movie itself. It's held up well, but it's no Citizen Kane. [Heck, I'm not even sure Citizen Kane is Citizen Kane any longer.]
46. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by noh8rz10 · 2013-02-15 08:29 · Score: -1
  
  In all greek tragedies, you always knew the ending and the major events. the form is so settled that everybody knows the structure. This is true for shakespearian tragedies as well. The enjoyable part is how you get there.
47. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by niado · 2013-02-15 08:33 · Score: 1
  
  Which is the only explanation that would make sense. That is, if it weren't for the fact that Luke specifically asks about her real mother. Or maybe Lucas changed the dialogue for that scene as well and I'm remembering it the "wrong" way...
  The consensus on this is that it's just a glaring (thought minor) plot-hole that Lucas didn't care enough about to fix.
  
  Originally, the assumption was that Luke/Leia's mother (unnamed at the time) survived the birth and spent time with Leia before she died. Many assumed that the unnamed mother actually married Bail Organa (Leia's adoptive father).
  
  Various retcons have been suggested. It's canonically unclear if Leia was aware that she was adopted before EPIV, and if she did know, there's some indication that she (and Luke as well) never found out who her biological mother was. There are various expanded universe materials that imply conflicting things in regards to this.
  
  It is also unclear when Bail Organa's wife (Leia's adopted mother), Breha Organa died. Expanded universe material contradicts itself in this regard. In some cases it is implied that Leia's adoptive mother died when Leia was very young. In other (more recent) material it is stated that she died in the destruction of Alderaan.
48. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:37 · Score: 0
  
  During a recent bout of flu I watched all the prequels (I only had watched Episode I or whatever you like to call it in a theater). Those are seven ours of my life I'm never getting back...
49. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:38 · Score: 1
  
  Exactly this. None of the movies are terrible in my opinion. But the difference between Empire and the others is that Irvin Kershner and Harrison Ford ignored George's poor writing and substituted their own. Instead of "I love you," "I love you too," (and this can even be seen in the Empire Strikes Back novel and comic book I have) it became the iconic "I love you" "I know."
  
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50. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Sir_Eptishous · 2013-02-15 08:39 · Score: 1
  
  So which film are you apologizing for? Please, indulge me.
  
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51. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by sg_oneill · 2013-02-15 08:39 · Score: 2
  
  And all three of those films where excelent. hobbit was a bit slow to start, but picked a nice pace up as it went on.
  Not sure your point here?
  
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52. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by niado · 2013-02-15 08:43 · Score: 1
  
  The prequels just don't stand up. Elements are not bad, in particular Ewan McGregor's casting as Obiwan and the return of Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine. I won't go into how awful Jar Jar is, or how bad an actor Hayden Christensen is. Suffice it to say that, pull all the flash, and these are inferior works made by a guy who had made what was originally a whiz-bang set of adventure films with characters that you could care about, and turned into a ponderous bad-dialogue laden set of films where you really couldn't give a shit by the end if Padme died or whether Anakin became Darth Vader or not.
  Very concise and accurate run-down of what was right/wrong with the prequels.
53. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:43 · Score: 1
  
  I have seen the TV show and while I can stomach a few of the episodes, they are not even close to the quality of the prequels. The Cartoon Network version was actually better than the CGI version, IMO.
  
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54. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Tarlus · 2013-02-15 08:44 · Score: 1
  
  And it's sad that a race was the most entertaining part of a freakin' Star Wars film.
  
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55. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:44 · Score: 0
  
  That's your fault for being too old.
  
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56. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Sir_Eptishous · 2013-02-15 08:46 · Score: 1
  
  Oh, and BTW, the last time I watched a pirated copy of a film was 1999 when Episode 1 came out.
  I pay full price for films I really want to see at a theatre.
  
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57. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:47 · Score: 0
  
  I think the cause and effect were the other way round. I always assumed the pointless pod racing scenes only existed because Lucas knew he could license a computer game and make another stack of cash. The (potential) computer game was the cause of the scenes in the movie.
58. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by JackieBrown · 2013-02-15 08:48 · Score: 1
  
  I liked the last Batman. My main complaint was that I wish it could have been longer since a lot of it felt rushed.
  Star Trek... I go back and forth between liking it and resenting the hell out of it. I That said, I am excited enough that the new Star Trek may be my first IMAX 3d movie
59. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:49 · Score: 1
  
  And, nobody told you the difference between hyperbolic, headline-grabbing crucifixion and thoughtful criticism. Most of these sci-fi movies that induce Slashdot nerd rage seems to somehow build up a big fan base, revenue, and many-many repeat viewings. Yet, the critically acclaimed sci-fi flicks get nothing more than quiet whimpering over how poor the quality is of your pirated copy.
  Absolutely right. No matter how much Slashdot whines about the prequels, they made over $300 million each in the theater. And Empire, which everyone says is the best (cause it's dark, right), made the least of all.
  What you as a techo-geek like, and what the more average and female population like, are two different things. (My wife loves the romance between Anakin and Padme. It's just like her lame novels.)
  
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60. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:51 · Score: 1
  
  But in every government incompetent people get elected because they are popular and then screw everything up. It's George's whole point.
  
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61. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by dkf · 2013-02-15 08:51 · Score: 1
  
  The sandpeople sniping pod racers was the best part of the whole movie.
  No it wasn't; they missed too often.
  
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62. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Adam+Appel · 2013-02-15 08:52 · Score: 1
  
  To add a thought. I think it's an artiest mindset. They are having such a good time making the film that they go to far, add to much.... Didn't you do that to art projects? I did.
  
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63. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:52 · Score: 0
  
  If this team would have been given the reigns to develop the prequel movies and Lucas was tied up and gagged in a corner... I think the galaxy far far away would have been much better.
  There, fixed that for you
64. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:54 · Score: 1
  
  Star Wars is the MOST nuanced film series of all time. I have seen them dozens of times, maybe 50. And I am always catching new things based on small pieces of things I read online, etc. I can't think of any other movie series where that is possible. George drops you into a living, breathing world that has everything already going on.
  
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65. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:57 · Score: 1
  
  My girls (who are teens now but were kids when the prequels came out) actually prefer 1-3. They think #4 (Star Wars itself) is incredibly boring and way too long to get started. They like #5 and while they like the Ewoks in #6 (because they're cute), they think the final battle is completely ridiculous.
  They have valid points. The original trilogy is put up on a pedestal by our generation. The prequels are incredibly similar, it is us who have changed.
  
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66. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:57 · Score: 0
  
  While I understand your point, some of these changes can be rationalized quite a bit.
  1. The stories take place in different regions of the galaxy with different cultures. Take Naboo for example. This planet looked quite rich and peaceful to me and it reflects in both their architecture and their vehicles. The Naboo fighters are very smooth and elegant which many would say is not needed in space. Though I think it is likely they were more intended for police duties in the planet's atmosphere than they were for giant space battles against the trade federation, and in that case it makes much more sense, especially if the local culture considers aesthetics to be important. Contrast this with Tatooine where only the dregs of galactic society visit and anyone else is dirt poor or even a slave, and it makes perfect sense that things are more nitty-gritty there. I expect the Rebel Alliance also had more important things to worry about than the appearance of their ships.
  2. The time period is quite different. There's likely 20-30 years between the events of the last prequel and the originals. It's very likely technology has moved on at least a bit during that period, or that ship manufacturers released new models according to market trends. Though some of the changes are quite extreme, there are quite a few instances where relations are clear. I remember thinking those tiny fighter craft the Jedi used during the clone war looked very similar to the A-Wings used by the Rebel Alliance. The warships used by the Republic are likely the predecessors of the Star Destroyers used by the Empire. It's likely they just upgraded the size of these things for threatening planets with orbital bombardment, at the cost of being too huge to be able to land on said planets and having to launch shuttles.
67. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by dywolf · 2013-02-15 09:02 · Score: 1
  
  i just watched them again a few weeks ago. my wife hadnt seen them. so she saw them fr the first time.
  I took a star wars noob, nearly 40 years after they were made, and she was enthralled. i'd say they hold up pretty damn well.
  and then we watched the prequels last weekend.
  she was bored, and kepts asking me why this and why that.
  same star wars noob, and she nailed it on the head why the prequels suck, without giong into our conversation. granted, she does have a masters in the arts, and has studied storytelling.
  
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68. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Scarletdown · 2013-02-15 09:02 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  I have some hope that a return of the original main characters and under solid new direction with writers not hampered by Lucas's problems and desire to transform Star Wars from Hidden Fortress In Space to some sort of political statement, this new trilogy can at least recapture some of the old spirit.
  I believe that said transformation actually began before ESB hit the screens, and 2 years after ANH came out. I distinctly recall that the third time ANH made the rounds, the scene with Han and Greedo was cut short. Immediately after Han says "Yes, I bet you have," the scene cut away to the bickering among the brass scene on the Death Star. So not only did Han not shoot first in that version, he didn't shoot at all.
  For years, I thought that perhaps that was just a damaged spot on that particular copy of the film that my theater had received. But when the "Greedo shot first" incident came about, that put that other incident in a whole new light.
  
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69. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Intrepid+imaginaut · 2013-02-15 09:04 · Score: 1
  
  Just because the plot isn't nuanced doesn't mean the details can't be sophisticated.
70. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:07 · Score: 0
  
  I'm pretty sure that particular forest is long gone:
  "Unlike Jedediah Smith redwoods which still remains as protected old growth, the redwood forest seen in Return of the Jedi, for Endor, has been completely logged and harvested. More or less what you would call a clearcut."
  http://www.mdvaden.com/redwood_star_wars.shtml
71. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Jason+Levine · 2013-02-15 09:11 · Score: 1
  
  Having not seen all of the JJ Abrams Star Trek reboot (I know, I really should see it), I choose to envision Spock Prime as what happened once Spock obtained the Matrix of Leadership. "Federation... It is only logical to roll out!"
  
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72. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:12 · Score: -1
  
  Hobbit is crap. It doesn't have an ending. Should have been a TV mini-series.
73. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by turp182 · 2013-02-15 09:21 · Score: 1
  
  And Disney did well with Tron Legacy. I enjoyed the story, effects, and the music. Yeah, the intro was weak, but software should be free!!!!!
  I do believe that Daft Punk made the movie, best soundtrack in some time in my opinion. Really turned me on to Daft Punk actually.
  
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74. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:23 · Score: 0
  
  He didn't like those films and is upset many people did
75. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by slew · 2013-02-15 09:32 · Score: 1
  
  Just imagine, blowing up a forest, but with Lens Flares.
  FTFY...
76. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:41 · Score: 0
  
  Letting a writer/director have full control over the creative process is usually a disaster.
  Quentin Tarantino begs to differ.
77. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:46 · Score: 0
  
  expanded universe == fan-fiction == irrelevant
78. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by tompaulco · 2013-02-15 09:49 · Score: 2
  
  And it's sad that a race was the most entertaining part of a freakin' Star Wars film.
  The downfall was not having them race down the L.A. River. Everyone knows that you are supposed to race down the L.A. River. It doesn't matter where or when your movie is set.
  
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79. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:49 · Score: -1
  
  You know what would make a movie more interesting? Nakedness. Particularly of big-bosomed maidens. And fucking. Lots and lots of fucking.
80. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Pieroxy · 2013-02-15 09:57 · Score: 0
  
  actually redwoods in NorCal, which everyone should visit at least once
  What the fuck are you implying here? That California has the most beautiful trees in the world? Just like everything else?
  There are trees in every continent and in every island. Yours are great, true. So are many others.
  
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81. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by tibman · 2013-02-15 10:11 · Score: 1
  
  I think Jar-Jar could have been the brightest of his race and still fulfilled that role. Palpatine fooled all of the Jedi.
  
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82. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by i.r.id10t · 2013-02-15 10:33 · Score: 1
  
  except the complete canocial LOTR trillogy was written for *years* before the first frame was shot (or drawn in the case of the 1977 Hobbit)
  
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  Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos
83. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by istartedi · 2013-02-15 11:10 · Score: 1
  
  There's no "California is the best at everything" attitude implied here. Read up on the coast redwoods and you'll see that they're among the largest trees in the world. I feel the same way about the Metropolitan museum in NYC after having visited that. I would probably have similar feelings about a number of other places on Earth if I could visit them. I'd love to see the Himalayas too; but it's out of my price range.
  BTW, I'm happy to hear that they're growing redwoods in New Zealand. Unfortunately they've only been at it for 100 years. In 1000 years they could have the best redwood forest.
  
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84. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by kaatochacha · 2013-02-15 12:10 · Score: 0
  
  The last batman was awful. They should have built a larger batmobile to drive through the plot holes.
  Was ANYONE surprised by Bane being the kid? I know I wasn't.
85. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 13:15 · Score: 0
  
  Letting a writer/director have full control over the creative process is usually a disaster.
  Quentin Tarantino begs to differ.
  Many movie goers would not.
  
  Going to a movie is not a referendum on directorial brilliance. Both Lucas and Tarantino have been commercially successful, yet only a niche think either brilliant when unrestrained. You offer a second example of the same, not a counter example.
86. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Culture20 · 2013-02-15 13:29 · Score: 1
  
  In all greek tragedies, you always knew the ending and the major events. the form is so settled that everybody knows the structure. This is true for shakespearian tragedies as well. The enjoyable part is how you get there.
  And eps 1-3 should have been a good tragedy.
87. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by AK+Marc · 2013-02-15 13:42 · Score: 1
  
  I think you wanted the Star Whores trilogy.
  
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88. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 13:51 · Score: 0
  
  I would argue the lightsaber battles were the high point of the film. Ray Park's work was *amazing*.
89. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by mark-t · 2013-02-15 13:53 · Score: 1
  
  Jar jar was quite skillfully manipulated by Palpatine, but I would not think the emperor-to-be could have necessarily as easily manipulated just anyone. Padme, for instance, having a much stronger will and being considerably wiser than Jar Jar had ever demonstrated himself to be, would probably not have been so hasty to have made that motion, knowing that such a turn of events would move the republic sharply away from a democracy, and heading firmly towards dictatorship, the very concept of which Padme herself expressed profound disapproval to Anakin while they were on Naboo. Palpatine almost certainly recognized this conviction in Padme's personality, which is why he conspired to try to get her off of Coruscant, so that the much more easily manipulatable Gungan would be compelled to be the Naboo representative in her stead.
  Still... at no point was the character of Jar Jar ever really *supposed* to be likeable. Comic relief, perhaps... but never overly likeable.
  
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90. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 14:04 · Score: 0
  
  I've never been able to get past the crappy animation. :/
91. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 14:06 · Score: 0
  
  The particular thing that Tarantino needs to be restrained from is appearing in his own movie; the man can't act worth shit. Jackie Brown was his best film because he never appeared in it.
92. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by perlchild · 2013-02-15 14:28 · Score: 1
  
  I went to see all three prequels movies, expecting to see just why in IV-V-VI they spoke of Darth Vader like he had committed such atrocities, the Holocaust was a mere footnote(no, I didn't expect the killcount from Alderaan to have outnumbered his acts in even War of the Clones, let alone Revenge of the Sith). I wanted to understand why "his kids" thought he was such a monster, before they even know they're his kids.
  I was most disappointed when he isn't even thrown out of the Jedi order before last half hour or so of ROTS, I wanted to understand all that rage.
93. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Culture20 · 2013-02-15 14:44 · Score: 1
  
  Disney did a Terrible job with TRON Legacy. Disney owned the rights to TRON 2.0, a vastly superior story about viruses, cyber espionage, and the logical consequences of the digitizing technology, but decided to trash it in favor of a stark story about emergent AI on a sparcstation 4.
94. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by servognome · 2013-02-15 15:10 · Score: 1
  
  To be fair, they had to make the sandpeople less accurate than imperial stormtroopers to keep consistent with canon.
  
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95. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by servognome · 2013-02-15 15:38 · Score: 1
  
  The thing is the prequels didn't necessarily have to be a "fill in the blanks" exercise. C3PO and R2Deus Ex didn't have to be in there, neither did Yoda, Jaba, Boba Fett, Owen, Beru, Death Star, Tantiv 4 or all the other "remember me from the good movies" elements.
  The prequels should have been more focused on the failure of the Republic, Clone Wars action, the hubris of Obi-wan trying to train Anakin, with the Padme side love story.
  
  For some reason I keep thinking the prequels should have been more like the HBO series "Rome." All the politics and backstabbing that leads a great republic into a great empire. The prequels had a few interesting scenes to that end, like the chancellor being controlled by bureaucrats, and "This is how liberty dies."
  Of course, the movie you make in your mind is always better than the actual one.
  
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96. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 21:41 · Score: 0
  
  Batman reboot part 1: Relief-induced euphoria due to it not being as horrendous as any of the previous Batman movies.
  Batman reboot part 2: enjoyment based on it not being significantly worse than reboot part 1.
  Batman reboot part 3: count down the many, many minutes before the blessed light returned.
  The Hobbit part 1: As bad as the worst of the LotR movies, but with the few good bits removed.
  Star Trek reboot part 1: Relief-induced euphoria that no more Shatner offset by lens-flare induced epileptic seizures, and time travel.
97. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-16 06:01 · Score: 0
  
  This idea is getting worse every day...
  Perhaps you feel you are being treated unfairly...
98. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by painandgreed · 2013-02-16 07:50 · Score: 1
  
  If you look at the tone of Jedi, especially the Ewoks, it is easy to see that Lucas was starting to get no critical feedback of his ideas. Kurtz filled this role. Without him, the franchise falls apart and we wind up with the crap that was the prequels. Lucas is a terrible director on his own. Just awful.
  
  Depends on what you mean by "franchise falls apart". IIRC, from the "making of" Ewoks replaced wookies as they would be better loved by kids and at selling merchandise. This was stated mater of fact by Lucas. Judging by the amount of stuff I saw friend's kids with, I can't really argue with that. True, it might have made a movie that you and I wouldn't like as much, but it probably did make it more appealing to the younger crowd and sell more stuff. SImilarly, I see lots of kids with Anakin Skywalker and Princess Amidala stuff. If you take the Star Wars movies as children's movies for pre-teens, then they probably are very well done.
99. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Common+Joe · 2013-02-16 10:28 · Score: 1
  
  I enjoyed the last Batman too, but I do have a number of complaints about it. Some of them were so blatantly obvious that hard to tell if being rushed was the worst offender. I believe cracked.com covers my feelings best. Just have a spare change of underwear handy because this article is really funny.
100. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Hognoxious · 2013-02-16 11:33 · Score: 1
  
  The kiddies with simple palettes
  8 bit RGB?
  
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101. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by ChrisMaple · 2013-02-16 17:13 · Score: 1
  
  The pod racers are technically brain-dead. Even in the magical pseudo-science universe of Star Wars, the physical configuration is below moronic. It's emblematic of the massive stupidities that permeate episode I and make it painful to watch.
  
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102. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by ChrisMaple · 2013-02-16 17:32 · Score: 1
  
  I would have been delighted to see Lando die. His causing Han's suffering far outweighs any good he did later. Buckling under pressure is not the mark of a hero.
  
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103. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by ChrisMaple · 2013-02-16 17:43 · Score: 1
  
  Episode IV was a breakthrough in SF films that set a standard for everything that followed. The immense new vision far overwhelms the importance of the more mature themes and defeatist attitude of Episode V.
  
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104. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Pieroxy · 2013-02-17 03:56 · Score: 1
  
  Thank you for your thoughtful answer which is not adressing at all the sentence I was responding to: "which everyone should visit at least once"
  
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105. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-17 19:19 · Score: 0
  
  "There's likely 20-30 years between the events of the last prequel and the originals"
  Correct me if I am wrong but wasn't Luke 18 at the start of Ep 4?
  He was born at the end of Ep 3, so I would guess there was about... (sticks moistened finger in the air)... 18 years between the trilogies?
  That was a lucky guess wasn't it? Damn I'm good!
106. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by istartedi · 2013-02-17 19:31 · Score: 1
  
  Ahhh... OK, in real life that would be conveyed with a rhetorical enthusiasm and not taken so literally. It's not a literal call to some sort of Mendocino Mecca. Think, "you've gotta have the steak with mushrooms at that new restaurant!". Obviously you don't, since not everybody likes mushrooms or eats meat.
  If that doesn't explain it, just remember that this standard disclaimer applies to all my posts.
  
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107. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Pieroxy · 2013-02-17 22:25 · Score: 1
  
  ok, thx. I guess I was having a bad day.
  
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108. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Vireo · 2013-02-18 04:32 · Score: 1
  
  I think you can safely add Ridley Scott / Prometheus to your list...
109. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by mitzoe · 2013-02-18 09:51 · Score: 1
  
  I've read where Lucas was genuinely taken aback by the backlash to Jar Jar. I wonder if for once he listened to fans in converting the character from comic relief to useful idiot. (Okay, okay, Coruscant is the other time he listened to the fans.)
110. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by mitzoe · 2013-02-18 09:54 · Score: 1
  
  Disney's in it for the money, and I think they know the money is in the older fan base -- for now. How long until we have Disney's Gungan Adventures on Disney XD, indoctrinating a whole new generation like Lucasfilm tried to do with the Clone Wars?
111. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-18 22:38 · Score: 0
  
  Was ANYONE surprised by Bane being the kid? I know I wasn't.
  Erm... I think you need to watch that movie again, and pay attention this time. Unless you're trying to make a joke, in which case you need to improve since it wasn't funny.
112. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by strikethree · 2013-02-19 21:14 · Score: 1
  
  I recently rewatched all six films from prequels through to original trilogy. I'll freely admit that Episode IV is pretty cheesy,
  "I'm Luke Skywalker and I am here to rescue you.", is one of the greatest lines ever. It had the perfect blend of campiness and seriousness to make it a truely great film. Cheesy is when R2D2 is given a medal by whats-her-face (Natalie Portman) in episode 1.
  
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113. Re:This idea is getting worse every day... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-27 03:12 · Score: 0
  
  You're a dumbfuck. Lucas was heavily pushing Jar Jar and thought everyone would love him and he'd sell a million toys and have a huge success.
  He also made two Ewok movies after everyone decided they hated Ewoks (I think the Ewoks are okay).
  He's kind of a dumbfuck too, like you.
New generation? by Joehonkie · 2013-02-15 06:38 · Score: 3, Insightful

Is he going to pass on his legacy to his son, played by Shia LeBoeuf?
1. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:44 · Score: 0
  
  Is he going to pass on his legacy to his son, played by Shia LeBoeuf?
  "...millions of voices suddenly cried out in terror..."
2. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:52 · Score: 1
  
  No, actually to a younger version of himself. Long after Ep VI, the galactic core threatened to explode and destroy the Force. As the Falcon was the only ship fast enough to deliver the Blue Matter in time, Han Solo was chosen, but the explosion pulled him back in time instead - along with his Ewok copilot.
3. Re:New generation? by h4rr4r · 2013-02-15 06:53 · Score: 4, Informative
  
  Why is that child allowed to act?
  What movie has he not screwed up?
  He destroyed Indiana Jones, he got more screen time than the hot girl or the robots in transformers, and he still can't act.
4. Re:New generation? by SirGarlon · 2013-02-15 07:26 · Score: 2
  
  Don't hate the playa, hate the game. Bad actors don't ruin movies -- producers who cast bad actors ruin movies. (And it's not Mr. LeBeouf's fault his parents named him Shia!)
  
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5. Re:New generation? by Intropy · 2013-02-15 07:32 · Score: 1
  
  New young Han Solo to be played by Joaquin Phoenix.
6. Re:New generation? by h4rr4r · 2013-02-15 07:43 · Score: 1
  
  That is a stupid statement and you should feel bad for saying it. If you are bad at a job it is immoral to take the position. If it was legal to stab people in the face who made that stupid statement you did I would not since it would be immoral.
  He is over that age of majority and could change his dumb name at anytime.
7. Re:New generation? by xevioso · 2013-02-15 08:06 · Score: 1
  
  What movie HAS he screwed up? He's actually a fine actor. He brings a certain level of intensity to his roles, sure, but all things considered he's actually quite good. Watch him again in Transformers, which fanboys seem to hate, but which made a sesquipedillion dollars. I found him entirely believable, even if all the rest of the movie was not. I don't get the Shia hate around here.
8. Re:New generation? by idontgno · 2013-02-15 08:07 · Score: 1
  
  You give the young man too much credit. The move came pre-ruined for everyone's childhood memory destruction convenience.
  
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9. Re:New generation? by SirGarlon · 2013-02-15 08:09 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  It's a rare individual who would turn down a chance to get fame and fortune for doing a job he's bad at. Especially when the consequences are as mild as a bad movie. I mean, it's not as if the guy is flying passenger airlines or designing tall buildings.
  In other words, if some producer said to me, "Sir Garlon, I will give you a gazillion dollars, lots of babes, sportscars, etc. to be in my movies because you're a natural star, son!" you would have some more bad movies coming your way because I would jump at the chance, and I would choose to believe the producer even though he was lying when he said I didn't suck.
  But I agree with you about the dumb name.
  
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10. Re:New generation? by h4rr4r · 2013-02-15 08:10 · Score: 2
  
  Either you are intoxicated or that is the best troll I have ever seen.
11. Re:New generation? by AK+Marc · 2013-02-15 08:11 · Score: 1
  
  He is over that age of majority and could change his dumb name at anytime.
  Not everywhere. Many places, you must have a reason. There are some barriers to name changes to help prevent people from doing bad things under one name, then changing to another to avoid their past. Though, as an actor, he could go by any name he wanted. You don't need a name change to get billing as anything else.
  
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12. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:41 · Score: 0
  
  Why is that child allowed to act?
  What movie has he not screwed up?
  He destroyed Indiana Jones, he got more screen time than the hot girl or the robots in transformers, and he still can't act.
  With proper casting and directing even Shia LaBeouf can act well.
13. Re:New generation? by niado · 2013-02-15 08:44 · Score: 1
  
  NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
14. Re:New generation? by xevioso · 2013-02-15 08:44 · Score: 1
  
  I'm neither trolling or intoxicated. As crazy as it may seem to some of you people, some of us have no problem with Shia's acting. He gets a bad rap because he's stared in some crappy Transformers movies, but serious, what the hell was wrong with him in Disturbia?
15. Re:New generation? by h4rr4r · 2013-02-15 08:45 · Score: 1
  
  Sure if you just make normal movies, but raping Indiana Jones is not making normal movies.
16. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:47 · Score: 0
  
  He was good in Constantine. Everyone was stepping on him or blowing him off and he died at the end. The ill timed death at the very end, just as he was coming into his own, was enough to make his misunderstood, under-appreciated, cheeky personality tragic and meaningful.
  I, Robot could have been the same if they'd given him at least one actual skill or meaningful input to the plot. And after his last "I know, I know, 'Stop cussing and go home!'", had him eviscerated by shrapnel, decapitated by an NS-5 running past at high speed or taking a molotov to the back. Or all three. That would have been a better movie.
17. Re:New generation? by h4rr4r · 2013-02-15 08:55 · Score: 0
  
  I never saw that, after him participating in the ruination of Indiana Jones I was done with him. So I avoid his movies like I avoid Tom Cruises films.
18. Re:New generation? by PRMan · 2013-02-15 08:59 · Score: 1
  
  And he was fantastic in Disturbia.
  
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19. Re:New generation? by Bill_the_Engineer · 2013-02-15 09:04 · Score: 1
  
  That is a stupid statement and you should feel bad for saying it. If you are bad at a job it is immoral to take the position.
  He's an actor not anyone actually important. If someone offers you a lot of cash just to play pretend, you'd be stupid not to take the position.
  Morality in Hollywood? Ha!
  
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20. Re:New generation? by Bill_the_Engineer · 2013-02-15 09:06 · Score: 1
  
  Did Shia kill your dog?
  
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21. Re:New generation? by xevioso · 2013-02-15 09:55 · Score: 2
  
  Tom Cruise is fine actor. Yes, he's nuttier than a fruitcake, but he has a good screen presence and is a real leading man, when we have so few in Hollywood. The last Mission Impossible was quite good, actually. You are missing out.
22. Re:New generation? by tompaulco · 2013-02-15 10:23 · Score: 1
  
  Watch him again in Transformers, which fanboys seem to hate, but which made a sesquipedillion dollars.
  I tried to watch Transformers, I really did. If it makes you feel better, it wasn't Shia LeBoeuf that made the movie unwatchable. Compared to other elements, his part was merely unremarkable.
  
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23. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 10:27 · Score: 0
  
  Given that he's an American, and probably lives in California, the fact that other places require reasons or have barriers is irrelevant. As long as you're not trying to commit fraud, you can pretty much change your name to anything you feel like, just because you want to.
24. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 10:59 · Score: 0
  
  You have too much penis in your butt.
25. Re:New generation? by rohan972 · 2013-02-15 13:10 · Score: 1
  
  New young Chewbacca to be played by Joaquin Phoenix.
  FTFY
  
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26. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 13:32 · Score: 0
  
  He destroyed Indiana Jones
  Pretty sure it was a little man named George Lucas, who insisted on writing the script himself when Frank Darabont already had a great script written (which Steven Spielberg loved). Not saying the wooden acting from this kid didn't help bring it down, but Lucas had a much bigger part in destroying Indiana Jones.
27. Re:New generation? by Macrat · 2013-02-15 16:11 · Score: 1
  
  Why is that child allowed to act?
  He is Steven Spielberg's illegitamate child.
  Or lover.
28. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 18:34 · Score: 0
  
  The guy has been in numerous films, but hasn't won any thing other than Teen Choice awards.
29. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 18:56 · Score: 0
  
  He destroyed Indiana Jones
  Really, of all the things wrong with that movie you lay the blame on SLB.
  At most he should be given credit for a minor supporting role in creating that abomination.
30. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 22:10 · Score: 0
  
  Mr. LeBeouf's does not think that he is bad at his job, neither do the producers that hired him. The problem here is that they are all bad at their respective jobs but that they do not realize this. Hence they keep making the same bad mistake over and over again.
31. Re:New generation? by cffrost · 2013-02-17 02:29 · Score: 1
  
  Don't hate the playa, hate the game.
  
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32. Re:New generation? by h4rr4r · 2013-02-18 02:32 · Score: 1
  
  A fine actor? Maybe 20 years ago. The second one of those sucked so I am not wasting my time with the most recent one.
  I really do think you are just trolling now.
33. Re:New generation? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-19 03:19 · Score: 0
  
  > What movie has he not screwed up?
  Holes. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0311289/
Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by interkin3tic · 2013-02-15 06:38 · Score: 5, Funny

But Han shot him first. In the face. Repeatedly.
1. Re:Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by mvar · 2013-02-15 06:50 · Score: 2
  
  And then he shot Jar Jar's dead body. Again. And again. And there was much rejoicing.
2. Re:Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by Bodhammer · 2013-02-15 06:50 · Score: 1
  
  "Ohh, maxi big, da Force. Well, dat smells stinkowiff."
  
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3. Re:Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by perpenso · 2013-02-15 07:01 · Score: 1
  
  But Han shot him first. In the face. Repeatedly.
  A clause in the George Lucas / Disney deal prohibits Han from ever shooting first. Lucas insisted. Disney had no objection, characters destined to ride floats down Main St during Disneyland parades are not allowed to shoot first.
4. Re:Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by Tarlus · 2013-02-15 08:47 · Score: 1
  
  ...and the image of a gigantic, inflated Han Solo floating down the Macy's Parade has just crossed my mind.
  Blah.
  
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5. Re:Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by roc97007 · 2013-02-15 08:50 · Score: 1
  
  I'd pay money just to see that.
  
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6. Re:Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 10:09 · Score: 0
  
  I could have sworn Darth Vader blew him out an airlock.
7. Re:Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by russotto · 2013-02-15 13:58 · Score: 1
  
  A clause in the George Lucas / Disney deal prohibits Han from ever shooting first.
  It's Disney; they'll alter the deal, and Lucas will have to pray they don't alter it further
8. Re:Was going to star Jar Jar Binks by mitzoe · 2013-02-18 10:03 · Score: 1
  
  Lucas will continue to be a consultant. Between Disney and Lucas's ego, it's immovable object meets immovable force.
Now... by Iniamyen · 2013-02-15 06:43 · Score: 1

The Millennium Falcon will be fast enough for HIM!
Well, of course... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:44 · Score: 2, Funny

How else is Abrams going to get that whole red matter / time travel loop going so he can reboot the entire franchise.
Can't wait for the first lightsaber lens flare.
Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by zAPPzAPP · 2013-02-15 06:48 · Score: -1, Troll

What is that thing?
And what was VII again? People should stop using roman numbers after III, that's when they become flawed.
1. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:56 · Score: 0
  
  I am sorry but do to recent actions your nerd card has been revoked. You may reapply at a future date but don't hold your breath.
2. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 06:56 · Score: 0
  
  I take it you can't count past 5.
3. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by zAPPzAPP · 2013-02-15 07:02 · Score: 1
  
  Sorry, I deleted Star Wars from my nerd card feed a couple of years ago due to negative personal experiences with this formerly subscribed channel.
  This must have made me miss further updates.
4. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · 2013-02-15 07:02 · Score: 1
  
  None o' all y'all can count. This is the first Star Wars film that matches its number-qua-ordinal !!!!!!!!!
  
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5. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:03 · Score: 0
  
  I'll assume for that you're not being sarcastic. Using the roman numerals is iconic, because that's what you see during the opening crawl of each SW movie. The very first film, Star Wars, opened with:
  Episode IV
  A new Hope
  That's even before the first space ship enters the frame. I would say that the first iconic traditions of Star Wars were the font, the opening crawl, starting the crawl with "Episode [roman numeral]\n[episode title]", and the first scene being a ship in space. If you change any one of those elements, you'll start a new "Han Shot First" furor.
6. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by TC+Wilcox · 2013-02-15 07:06 · Score: 1
  
  Perhaps you'd prefer Star Wars IIIIIII?
7. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:20 · Score: 0
  
  Except it didn't start with Episode IV until it was later "Lucased" in just like Han not shooting first!
8. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Intropy · 2013-02-15 07:42 · Score: 1
  
  I think I've just come up with a polynomial time solution to the knapsack problem.
9. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:48 · Score: 0
  
  Nerd cards are overrated anyway. All they say on them is that "This card entitles the bearer not to get laid". :-(
10. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Phrogman · 2013-02-15 08:10 · Score: 1
  
  No, actually it was Episode IV right from the start when it hit the theatres. Lucas originally intended to make 9 movies, and started with number 4.
  
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11. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:14 · Score: 0
  
  I seem to remember renting the movie, 20-something years ago, before it was "digitally remastered." The opening crawl said "Episode IV," which prompted me to ask my mother, and later a video store clerk, if there was an episode I, II, and III. It's possible that this was added between the original theatrical release in the '77, and when I rented it in the late 80's.
12. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by AK+Marc · 2013-02-15 08:14 · Score: 1
  
  I thought A New Hope and IV were added later, after it was successful and he put it as a movie in the middle of a serise. I have the first VHS printing of the trilogy around here somewhere, just no way to play it anymore to check.
  
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13. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by mythosaz · 2013-02-15 08:32 · Score: 2
  
  *sigh* Get it right, folks, and stop repeating nonsense. Lucas didn't intend shit.
  The lines "Episode IV: A NEW HOPE" were added to the opening title crawl upon its 1981 re-release, one year after "Episode V: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK" was released with its full title. The new opening crawl also capitalized the word 'Rebel' in 'rebel spies', which was not capitalized in the original 1977 opening crawl. This altered the formatting of the text to accommodate the two additional lines, and slightly changed the timing so the crawl no longer appears at the same music cue. (This last change had been present on EMPIRE's initial release, and would remain on all four subsequent films as well.) The "Episode IV: A NEW HOPE" subtitle would appear in all future releases of the film with the exception of the 2006 DVD release of the unaltered film.
14. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by mythosaz · 2013-02-15 08:32 · Score: 1
  
  Correct.
  The lines "Episode IV: A NEW HOPE" were added to the opening title crawl upon its 1981 re-release, one year after "Episode V: THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK" was released with its full title. The new opening crawl also capitalized the word 'Rebel' in 'rebel spies', which was not capitalized in the original 1977 opening crawl. This altered the formatting of the text to accommodate the two additional lines, and slightly changed the timing so the crawl no longer appears at the same music cue. (This last change had been present on EMPIRE's initial release, and would remain on all four subsequent films as well.) The "Episode IV: A NEW HOPE" subtitle would appear in all future releases of the film with the exception of the 2006 DVD release of the unaltered film.
15. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:36 · Score: 0
  
  Sorry, I was there in the theater. Originally the scroll didn't have an episode number or a subtitle, and in all the promotional posters &c. it was just called "Star Wars." It wasn't until Empire Strikes Back came out with the scroll beginning "Episode V / The Empire Strikes Back" that the whole "Episode IV" thing came about. I remember being upset at first about the whole "Episode V" thing because I was afraid there had been three more episodes between them, until I realized (a minute later) that it was referring to the fact that Lucas had claimed to have a 9 episode outline of which Star Wars was Episode IV.
  It wasn't until after ROTJ came out that they started calling it "A New Hope."
16. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by tompaulco · 2013-02-15 10:26 · Score: 1
  
  Why would a story that happened a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away use Roman numerals?
  
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17. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by JonBoy47 · 2013-02-15 10:54 · Score: 3, Informative
  
  Actually Lucas had the vision of the 9 episode story arc from the beginning. 20th Century Fox was giving Lucas the time of day on Star Wars because American Graffiti had made a shit-ton of money for Universal Pictures, after Fox had passed on the project. They weren't going to chance making the same mistake twice. At the same time though, you have to remember to the world they inhabited in 1975 when this pitch was taking place. With the notable exception of Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey (and maybe Planet of the Apes), most sci-fi films up to that time had been cheesy, poorly made affairs that mostly served as money pits for the studios. Fox was optimistic to break even on their $11M investment on the strength of Lucas' involvement in the project, but envisioned nothing of the cultural phenomenon they were unleashing. For his part, Lucas was keen to avoid overplaying his hand, knowing he'd be lucky to get funded for a single movie, let alone nine. Episode IV was chosen as it was the most self-contained, and most readily film-able, given the state of visual effects technology at that time. As originally filmed, what we today refer to as Episode IV was meant to stand alone. By the time it had earned $460M in gross receipts, Fox of course had a change of heart; thus the "Episode IV" was tacked on.
18. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Common+Joe · 2013-02-16 10:44 · Score: 1
  
  Eh... not exactly. Read The Secret History of Star Wars. (It used to be free, but they are charging money for it now. You can probably find a pdf somewhere.) George didn't know what the hell he was doing. It certainly wasn't 9 movies. Sure, he said he was making 9 movies after some point in time, but the facts the author dug up is absolutely amazing. Here's some gems and the page numbers (in the copy of the book I have):
  1) Star Wars was the 1st "episode", not the fourth. The Episode IV was decided during the scripting of Empire Strikes Back. Page 164
  2) Anakin and Darth Vader were two separate characters up through the first draft of Empire Strikes Back. Page 165
  3) The prequel trilogy was formed due to the Anakin / Vader merging. Page 169
  4) Leia was never to be Luke's sister. Page 193.
  5) Darth Vader was not to be redeemed at the end of Revenge of the Jedi. Page 193.
19. Re:Wait, what do you mean, Star Wars VII? by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-16 11:15 · Score: 0
  
  It is I better than Star wars VI but not as good as Star Wars VIM.
I have a dream... by Anita+Coney · 2013-02-15 06:53 · Score: 1

I hope they hire Justin Long to be his sidekick.

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I saw the script by SydShamino · 2013-02-15 06:55 · Score: 5, Funny

There's a new Death Star being built by the remnants of the trade federation army, being led by a young and brash Jedi (Joseph Gordon-Levitt) who's being turned by the haunting apparitions of Emperor Palpatine and Count Dooku. To test their new, fully operational battle station, they use it to blow up Corellia, killing most of the inhabitants. As the Millennium Falcon sweeps in, piloted by Chewbacca and his protegee (Shia LaBeouf), to see if anyone survived, it's hit by a largish rectanguar piece of debris, causing the Falcon to yet again lose its precarious sensor dish. The Falcon sweeps around to see what hit them and pick it up, and they discover that Han Solo survived. He escaped in a Corellian intergalactic-class refrigerator that was flung from the explosion at less than 4 parsecs.

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1. Re:I saw the script by rgbscan · 2013-02-15 07:13 · Score: 2
  
  Shia LaBooBoos better not be in any of these films. Or any more films period. He sucks so much. I can't stand watching any movie he's in.....
2. Re:I saw the script by jimbolauski · 2013-02-15 07:17 · Score: 2
  
  In the script I saw there were ewoks in the refrigerator, one had a crystal skull that opened a worm hole that allowed the force ghosts to come back to life.
  
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3. Re:I saw the script by synapse7 · 2013-02-15 07:33 · Score: 1
  
  You forgot to include Zac Efron, and Miley Cyrus could be the next princess.
4. Re:I saw the script by mark-t · 2013-02-15 08:08 · Score: 1
  
  ...they use it to blow up Corellia, killing most of the inhabitants
  *MOST* of the inhabitants???
  
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5. Re:I saw the script by xevioso · 2013-02-15 08:21 · Score: 1
  
  Stop with the LaBeef hate. He's a fine actor. Seriously. There's nothing wrong with his acting, and he has a hell of a range.
6. Re:I saw the script by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:45 · Score: 0
  
  Does she get Naked and petrified with grits?
7. Re:I saw the script by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:00 · Score: 0
  
  But did he have time to get his towel before the explosion?
8. Re:I saw the script by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:06 · Score: 0
  
  Well, obviously some inhabitants were taking a vacation at the nice resort planet a few light-years down the the road.
9. Re:I saw the script by mark-t · 2013-02-15 09:41 · Score: 1
  
  Then they weren't "inhabiting" it at the time.
  
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10. Re:I saw the script by tompaulco · 2013-02-15 10:28 · Score: 1
  
  "...they use it to blow up Corellia, killing most of the inhabitants"
  
  *MOST* of the inhabitants???
  
  ...AND causing millions of dollars in improvements.
  
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11. Re:I saw the script by MightyMartian · 2013-02-15 12:09 · Score: 1
  
  How much alcohol do you have to drink before LaPoop starts to look he has range?
  People talk about what ruined the last Indiana Jones movie, and while it was a bit goofy at points, LaPoop is the answer. It's hard to imagine how such a completely untalented slob like him ever got in a film, let alone got to fuck around in a major franchise.
  
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12. Re:I saw the script by martin-boundary · 2013-02-15 14:16 · Score: 1
  
  A few of the inhabitants were drunk at the time, and incapable of leaping into the Great Beyond.
13. Re:I saw the script by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 17:26 · Score: 0
  
  ...they use it to blow up Corellia, killing most of the inhabitants
  *MOST* of the inhabitants???
  They bred 'em tough.
14. Re:I saw the script by Your.Master · 2013-02-15 20:50 · Score: 1
  
  He didn't say they were inhabiting it at the time. He said they were inhabitants. That's not the same thing. Somebody from Poland who visits Bangladesh for a week is an inhabitant of Poland even while in Bangladesh.
  Merriam-Webster: "one that occupies a particular place regularly, routinely, or for a period of time".
15. Re:I saw the script by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 22:14 · Score: 0
  
  True, his acting his not bad. It is something else, something elusive, hard to pin down that makes his screen appearance unnatural.
16. Re:I saw the script by SydShamino · 2013-02-27 13:47 · Score: 1
  
  Well, if you keep reading, you'll note that at least one survives...
  
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But the real question is... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:00 · Score: 0

Did he shoot first?
1. Re:But the real question is... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 15:43 · Score: 0
  
  George Lucas absolutely destroyed everything that was good about Star Wars. The originals didn't have 10000000 little ADHD things flying around every second. Han Solo shot Greedo, because there was a price on his head, he was in a lawless bar, and he had to get away. Let's not forget that shitpile that was the Phantom Menace. The next Star Wars can be the greatest video ever made, but Lucas burned me enough that I haven't seen the last 2 movies, and never plan to watch any of them again. Screw you George Lucas. You fucked over Star Wars and even claim to have gotten rid of the original prints. Wonder how many things will blow up and have a ring shoot out of them in the new one?
Nope by crazyjj · 2013-02-15 07:02 · Score: 3, Funny

That's it, I'm out.
Do not want to see an aging Han Solo sitting in a bar bragging about his glory days and complaining about his jedi bitch ex-wife.

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1. Re:Nope by Anubis+IV · 2013-02-15 07:48 · Score: 1
  
  Personally, I'm of the exact opposite opinion. If you're gonna do an Episode VII, it has to have Han Solo in it. What I'm unsure of is bringing Harrison Ford back in. He was already a big part of ruining Indiana Jones for a current generation of moviegoers. I don't want to see a repeat performance with Star Wars.
2. Re:Nope by guru42101 · 2013-02-15 08:07 · Score: 1
  
  Depends on the story for me. He could be in it and play Han Solo, but they best have the Han and Leia kids be the main focus.
3. Re:Nope by roc97007 · 2013-02-15 08:51 · Score: 1
  
  That's it, I'm out.
  Do not want to see an aging Han Solo sitting in a bar bragging about his glory days and complaining about his jedi bitch ex-wife.
  Actually, that could be entertaining. Not for 88 minutes, though.
  
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4. Re:Nope by Tharkkun · 2013-02-15 09:15 · Score: 1
  
  Personally, I'm of the exact opposite opinion. If you're gonna do an Episode VII, it has to have Han Solo in it. What I'm unsure of is bringing Harrison Ford back in. He was already a big part of ruining Indiana Jones for a current generation of moviegoers. I don't want to see a repeat performance with Star Wars.
  Harrison Ford is an amazing actor. If it wasn't for him Star Wars would have been a complete flop. I noticed this after watching them start to finish almost 20 years later. But even good actors can have crappy movies if the script is terrible but ask yourself...how much worse would the Indiana Jones sequel been without their star?
5. Re:Nope by squiggleslash · 2013-02-15 09:28 · Score: 1
  
  He has TWO facial expressions. TWO.
  
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6. Re:Nope by Belial6 · 2013-02-15 10:37 · Score: 1
  
  I would say the opposite. I do want to see Han Solo sitting in a bar bragging about his glory days and complaining about his jedi bitch ex-wife. What I don't want to see is an attempt to make Han out as some 70 year old who is at the peak of his physical prowess. Time moves on. Han Solo should be old. That doesn't stop him from firing a blaster when the other guy isn't ready though.
7. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 10:41 · Score: 0
  
  It would be awesome though, if Lewis Black were to play that part
8. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 10:51 · Score: 0
  
  Personally, I'm of the exact opposite opinion. If you're gonna do an Episode VII, it has to have Han Solo in it. What I'm unsure of is bringing Harrison Ford back in. He was already a big part of ruining Indiana Jones for a current generation of moviegoers. I don't want to see a repeat performance with Star Wars.
  Maybe he'll play as Yoda?
9. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 11:47 · Score: 0
  
  But those two expressions are amazingly well acted!
10. Re:Nope by MightyMartian · 2013-02-15 12:08 · Score: 2
  
  Yup. Let's face it. The most watchable parts of the original movies are any scene with Harrison Ford in it and any scene with James Earl Jones talking.
  
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11. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 18:14 · Score: 0
  
  The most watchable parts of the original movies are any scene with Harrison Ford in it and any scene with James Earl Jones talking.
  Much like CNN.
12. Re:Nope by Common+Joe · 2013-02-16 10:48 · Score: 1
  
  The most watchable parts of the original movies are any scene with Harrison Ford in it and any scene with James Earl Jones talking.
  I agree with one minor addendum: Carrie Fisher didn't look so bad back then.
13. Re:Nope by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-17 16:05 · Score: 0
  
  Actually, that would be a frikkin hilarious scene
14. Re:Nope by mitzoe · 2013-02-18 10:09 · Score: 1
  
  Deadpan stare and goofy grin?
Never give up... Never Surrender by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:03 · Score: 0

I hope Abrams is bringing in Commander Peter Quincy Taggert to save the movie and the day.
1. Re:Never give up... Never Surrender by Erbo · 2013-02-15 08:34 · Score: 1
  
  Will the beautiful Lieutenant Tawny Madison accompany him to repeat everything the computer says?
  "Look! I have ONE job on this lousy ship! It's STUPID, but I'm gonna do it, OK?"
  
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Han... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:08 · Score: -1

Scrotum
You hate it now... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:12 · Score: 0

But you're still be lined up on opening day. I won't be, but I think it'd be cool to see Ford in the movie regardless. If you want to be a whiny bitch, vote with your dollars, not with your keyboard.
1. Re:You hate it now... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:23 · Score: 0
  
  heh.. no, I think actually most of us won't be. Star Wars is for wannabe trend-style nerds, not the real smart people who do real things who tend to frequent slashdot. Most of use will get the first available HD rip and watch it in the comfort of our homes for the sake of curiosity, without the guilt associated with giving such a horrible franchise money.
2. Re:You hate it now... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:49 · Score: 0
  
  not the real smart people who do real things who tend to frequent slashdot.
  Bahahahaha I'm sorry... what???
3. Re:You hate it now... by tompaulco · 2013-02-15 10:32 · Score: 1
  
  Most of use will get the first available HD rip and watch it in the comfort of our homes for the sake of curiosity, without the guilt associated with giving such a horrible franchise money.
  Don't know about most of the rest of us, but I have NEVER ripped a movie in my life. If I don't want to give a horrible franchise money, then I don't want to give them the idea that I might be interested in it if it was free, either.
  
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4. Re:You hate it now... by flimflammer · 2013-02-15 10:49 · Score: 1
  
  heh.. no, I think actually most of us won't be
  You expect far too much.
Disney by synapse7 · 2013-02-15 07:23 · Score: 1

I became very disappointed(I was trying to be optimistic) when Disney had c-3po(Poorly costumed) and r2d2 showing up in the disney kiddie shows that my kids watch, and I try to tolerate in the background. I want to say the show was Ant Farm... I thought the angry birds co-branding was as washed out as it could get, I was wrong.
1. Re:Disney by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:34 · Score: 0
  
  I became very disappointed(I was trying to be optimistic) when Disney had c-3po(Poorly costumed) and r2d2 showing up in the disney kiddie shows that my kids watch, and I try to tolerate in the background. I want to say the show was Ant Farm... I thought the angry birds co-branding was as washed out as it could get, I was wrong.
  To be fair, Angry Birds Star Wars IS pretty fun, if making a deliberate mockery of canon as it goes.
  Ironic, then, that Rovio managed to figure out what Lucas FAILED to figure out and did a better job making something that's just plain fun out of his galaxy far, far away.
Walker by cervesaebraciator · 2013-02-15 07:29 · Score: 1

First we had the AT-AT and AT-ST walkers. Now I'm imagining something with tennis balls.
1. Re:Walker by BetaDays · 2013-02-15 08:07 · Score: 1
  
  That would be pretty good I can the ghosts of past Jedi in Phantasm balls.
  
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Harrison Ford back as ... by damn_registrars · 2013-02-15 07:29 · Score: 1

Han Solo, or Han Solo's dad? It has been quite a while since he was in a Star Wars film, and he isn't really readily recognizable as Han Solo any more. It might be easier to find a younger (or younger-looking) actor to take the role if you want it to make sense and not be a tale of Han Solo's retirement.

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1. Re:Harrison Ford back as ... by SirGarlon · 2013-02-15 07:36 · Score: 4, Insightful
  
  Actually, a 70-year-old Han Solo sounds like an interesting character. I wonder where the hero of the rebellion would end up, 40 years later. If the screenwriters have the creativity and freedom to actually develop the character, that is. More likely we'll see a 70-year-old version of exactly the same 30-year-old smuggler, which would be a sad joke.
  
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2. Re:Harrison Ford back as ... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:42 · Score: 0
  
  Best comment on this story!
3. Re:Harrison Ford back as ... by dwillden · 2013-02-15 08:52 · Score: 2
  
  What the 70 year old prince consort of the Nation of Aldebran refugees? He's a politician now but his rough edges still crop up from time to time, especially as senility creeps in. He keeps the Millenium Falcon in a local hangar, with a full time crew required to keep it operational. Every few years he flies to Tattoine and finds one of Greedo's releatives to shoot (first of course). He even occasionally tries on a old battered Fedora and pulls out a whip while forgetting which universe he's actually in.
  
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4. Re:Harrison Ford back as ... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:57 · Score: 1
  
  I'd like to see a fat, out of shape Han Solo sprawled on the sofa watching the latest holo-film, asking Leia what's taking so long to get him a damn beer. In the holo-film a Greedo-esque character is displayed and before Greedo can fire, Han whips out his blaster and shoots the holo-Greedo shooting a whole through the wall of his home. Then the scene changes to outside his home, Jar Jar Binks is walking by and gets his brain blown out over the yard from Han's errant blaster shot.
5. Re:Harrison Ford back as ... by Bonker · 2013-02-15 18:37 · Score: 2
  
  As much as I'd like to see movie versions of Mr. Zahn's 'Thrawn' Triology, a line in 'Return of the Jedi' stands out to me, when Mon Mothma and Admiral Ackbar are discussing the assault on the Forest Moon of Endor.
  I think it's Ackbar who addresses Han as 'General Solo' for the first time and Luke is rather surprised that his friend got promoted while he was busy back on Degobah.
  Imagine, if you will, Ford as the aged, weathered space admiral who's seen it all, from Imperial recruit, to smuggler, to rebel pilot, to assault leader, to General and eventually a great leader of men...
  We KNOW Ford is capable of the acting. What we don't know is 'Will Disney let it happen'?
  
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Fox news? Really? by sl4shd0rk · 2013-02-15 07:33 · Score: -1, Troll

In that case we'll also need to believe that aliens were hired by the Taliban on behalf of the Obama administration to sabotage Romney's IT staff during the election.

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I was going to say the same thing. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 07:38 · Score: 0

The pod racing game was awesome.
However, the SNES or N64 version of it blew the PC version out of the water control-wise. The PC controls were always slightly clunky, keyboard or controller, but the gameplay itself was superb. My only major gripe with it was making the courses so hard that you'd regularly crash, and then just get to pick right back up in that part of the track. If they'd had a 'realism' option, where you only got one life and maybe either widened the tracks or toned down the enemy AI it would've been perfect (and far more immersive.)
Honestly, much like the hobbit, and the new star trek film, Ep VII is going to be one of those things I leave for when I'm stuck at somebody's house with cable, or when some friend with the dvd really wants to watch it again.
Also, I just wanted to add the biggest fubar of Eps1-3 was INTENTIONALLY throwing away the 'popularly canonical' details that had been created in how many hundreds of novels written for the star wars universe? Boba Fett's origins from Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina, various force related stuff from almost every book and RPG supplement out then, forcing in every long lived Ep4-6 character (Fett, Jabba, C3PO, R2D2, Chewbacca, probably a few minor characters I didn't catch). And of course the biggest one: Shifting the Clone wars from 50-70 years in the past to at most 30. (Seriously, neither Vader/Anakin, Palpatine, Obi-wan, nor (but only in context of the updated Ep4 with Jabba walking scene) Jabba appeared to age right for a mere 30 years. And judging by Owen's comments Obi-wan was stated to be so old that he was probably dead. (Which certainly was the appearance Alec gave in his performance. He was still sprightly, but he was obviously an aged man well up in his years.)
You're all getting what you asked for by GodfatherofSoul · 2013-02-15 07:39 · Score: 5, Interesting

All the over-the-top criticisms about how much George Lucas sucked and how anyone could do a better job and how he's just milking the franchise (6 moves in 30 years and a handful of TV projects?). You're about to get pile drived by reality. You're going to see what it looks like when a corporation REALLY milks a franchise to get their 4 billion back in one CEO terms. You're going to see what a REAL mass-appeal version of Star Wars looks like with Disney-developed child stars and some schmuck producer's pet actress/mistress on the billboard. And, unlike the prequels, you're REALLY going to find out what it feels like to turn your back on a franchise instead of nerd raging about how you will after your last ThinkGeek purchase.

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1. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by mu51c10rd · 2013-02-15 08:43 · Score: 1
  
  I hate to say it, but Disney hasn't destroyed the Marvel franchise in my mind...they improved it. Disney is known for doing things well...I see Lucasfilms as being in good hands.
2. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by roc97007 · 2013-02-15 08:53 · Score: 1
  
  And I'm REALLY going to find out what it's like to not buy a ticket and to do something else that weekend, and watch all my nerd friends retching the next day. Just sayin'.
  
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3. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by dwillden · 2013-02-15 08:54 · Score: 1
  
  Yep just as Disney has already totally Disneyfied and trashed the Marvel universe. Oh wait, they haven't.
  
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4. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:58 · Score: 0
  
  With fucking jerky jizz abrams directing? It's going to be a fucking steaming pile of fecal waste.
5. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by Bill_the_Engineer · 2013-02-15 09:09 · Score: 1
  
  They were too busy destroying John Carter.
  
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6. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by Tharkkun · 2013-02-15 09:19 · Score: 1
  
  I hate to say it, but Disney hasn't destroyed the Marvel franchise in my mind...they improved it. Disney is known for doing things well...I see Lucasfilms as being in good hands.
  The only thing Disney is guilty of is making a PG13 movie close to PG. Other than that they protect their brand with solid films.
7. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by PRMan · 2013-02-15 09:25 · Score: 1
  
  This is my fear as well. Still, there's a decent possibility that they could do better.
  
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8. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · 2013-02-15 09:50 · Score: 1
  
  No kidding. Do you think the New Star Wars trilogy will star Hanna Montana?
9. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by SirGarlon · 2013-02-15 09:56 · Score: 1
  
  +1 Insightful, but minus several million for making me relive that horrible memory.
  
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10. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 11:02 · Score: 0
  
  Disney is known for doing things well AND dear god someone actually paid money to make this trash badly too.
  However Bob Iger and John Lasseter are basically re-inventing Disney to not suck (and it is has showed in their latest movies in the past year). As long as they do not have a terrible fail in 7 Lucasfilms should do just fine. But could easily be gutted like a fish. I can not believe the stuff they bought and all they care about is star wars... Thats what I think is the real injustice here. Skywalker sound, ILM (back together with pixar!), Lucasarts, THX... ILM by itself is the backbone of most of the special effects movies out there...
11. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 11:10 · Score: 0
  
  You've got to admit, his Star Trek was a pretty decent Star Wars movie.
12. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by MightyMartian · 2013-02-15 12:06 · Score: 1
  
  I'm sure Disney did buy Lucasfilms out for all the subsidiaries. But let's think about this. The world-wide proceeds from three highly successful new Star Wars films could likely pay for Disney's investment. If they handle it right, the whole package; subsidiaries and the Star Wars property itself could make Disney obscene amounts of money. We're living in the post-Avatar age, where if you can do a ultra big budget SF film well, you can make a helluva lot of money, and Cameron had to create his film from the ground up, whereas Star Wars has a huge world-wide fan base and basically cultural icon status.
  
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13. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by DerekLyons · 2013-02-16 03:14 · Score: 1
  
  Oh, that's the great part - despite all the nerd rage and teeth gnashing, they'll all flock to see it in record numbers.
14. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by ChrisMaple · 2013-02-16 18:27 · Score: 1
  
  If it's bad, we'll be seeing the bastard son of Black Hole and Tron. If it's good, it'll be due to plot, directing, acting, and avoiding the temptation to think like children. Disney is a professional organization that caters to a large variety of audiences, and there's a fair chance that they won't screw the pooch.
  
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15. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by DiEx-15 · 2013-02-18 03:22 · Score: 1
  
  Must be nice having ESP. Bet you seen my post coming on Saturday!
  
  Meanwhile, I am going to sit back and wait to see what comes out before jumping on the Hateraide wagon destined to JJ Abrams's front door. Not to do that is just sheer overreacting and is far from intelligent.
  
  Yes I know some here have raging e-boners against Abrams. Yes, I know about John Carter (voted least pirated movie because even pirates thought the movie wasn't worth it and have some modicum of decency) and how epic suck it was. Yes, I get some are 50 shades of RAGE-Hate over Star Trek's reboot and to them I say "Fuck you" because it got this long time reluctant person interested in the Star Trek franchise. Yes, I get Disney and Abrams could do things to tarnish Star Wars... but Jar Jar and Lucas has set that bar so high it may have to be a concerted effort on Disney and Abrams part to make the movie that bad, and even then it may fall way short.
  
  However, the bottom line is that nobody knows anything concrete about what is going to happen with this movie. Basing it solely on Abrams and/or Disney is not just premature, it is closed minded and certainly not smart.
16. Re:You're all getting what you asked for by mu51c10rd · 2013-02-22 06:30 · Score: 1
  
  Yes...and I believe Dreamworks uses ILM. I sense a contract not being renewed in the near future.
NOT her adoptive mother, as Luke says... by fallen1 · 2013-02-15 08:14 · Score: 4, Insightful

Luke: Do you remember your mother? Your real mother?
Leia: Just a little bit. She died when I was very young.
Luke: What do you remember?
Leia: Just images, really. Feelings.
Luke: Tell me.
Leia: She was very beautiful. Kind, but sad.
Leia, by then, more than likely knew she was adopted. Bail Organa would have told her. Otherwise, when Luke said "your real mother" I presume that Leia would have been all "WTF do you mean, my REAL mother??"

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1. Re:NOT her adoptive mother, as Luke says... by fox171171 · 2013-02-15 10:20 · Score: 1
  
  I think it was more along the lines of Leia in the womb sensing her mom through the Force. Seems to make a certain amount of sense with the "just images, really. Feelings." part.
2. Re:NOT her adoptive mother, as Luke says... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 14:00 · Score: 0
  
  Doesn't mean shit.
  You ever met a child of adoption? I have. It's quite possible they'll consider their adoptive parents their REAL ones, as their biological parents were not there for them through thick and thin.
  People sometimes accuse geeks of being too literal, and I laugh at them. However, this is one instance wherein I must agree. There are MUCH larger plot holes to focus on than this little nitpick. Like how Vader and the Emperor seemed to forget Obi-Wan beat the shit out of Vader and escaped 20 years ago but somehow decided he must've somehow died of old age. Because no one in their 40s lives to their 60s, even without the aid of the Force or advanced medical technology. /snicker
Is he really playing Han Solo? by Lorens · 2013-02-15 08:49 · Score: 1

Or will it be Yoda?
He probably was pretty cheap by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:49 · Score: 0

After his latest films Crystal Skull and Cowboys and Aliens, his pay for acting should be chump change. /sarcasm
Blame the writers by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:50 · Score: 0

Don't blame Shia for playing a bad role. Blame the writers for creating the role in the first place.
Captcha: blamer
Uh oh by znanue · 2013-02-15 08:53 · Score: 1

I have a bad feeling about this....
N0O0O0O0O0O0! by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 08:54 · Score: 0

N0O0O0O0O0O0!
[fuck your filters, slashdot]
Second Hand News Correspondent by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:06 · Score: 0

Did the guy being interviewed in the video remind anyone else of Anthony Crispino from Weekend Update?
http://www.hulu.com/watch/447643
Did you hear about this? I have it on pretty good authority that Harry's son, "Ford", is gonna play a Hand Solo in Spaceballs 2: The search for more money. I'm preeeetty sure that's what I heard.
If Abrams plays his cards right... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:25 · Score: 0

He should talk to the HISHE guys...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbJ-y6BWfUc
Excellent editing by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 09:47 · Score: 0

Thank George's ex-wife for that.
1. Re:Excellent editing by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 19:41 · Score: 0
  
  I think we all long ago came to grips with the fact that what Lucas says "I originally intended" has always been highly variable
  
  Thank George's ex-wife for that.
  One of the biggest examples of this is Luke thinking the Jawa's were attacked by some bad guys whereas Obi Wan sees the side by side animal tracks indicating it was not native Tatoonians who were involved. George's ex-wife edited the movie from scenes shot George went back to his digital effects to put in the Imperial Stormtroopers as was in the unfilmable script.
  Jiminy jillickers up and atom there were scriptproblems from day won!
an abomination by CosaNostra+Pizza+Inc · 2013-02-15 09:48 · Score: 1

I HATED the JJ Abrams reboot of Star Trek. Now he's teaming up with Disney to do the next Star Wars trilogy? I'll pass. In fact, I'll wait until its available on Amazon Prime AND at a low price...and that probably wont happen soon since Disney has a deal with Netflix. As for Harrison Ford, I respect him but The Crystal Skull was an abomination in an otherwise excellent Indiana Jones franchise. Can't he see that this new Star Wars trilogy will sink as low, if not lower?
How to ruin a franchise... by tompaulco · 2013-02-15 10:35 · Score: 3, Funny

They'll probably have a UFO and some aliens in it.

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Star Wars VII Plot by Stormy+Dragon · 2013-02-15 10:43 · Score: 1

Han Solo, played by Ford, time traveling into the past to team up with his younger self, played by Nathan Fillion, to hunt down the entire prequel cast, making an alternate timeline where none of the prequels actually occured.
1. Re:Star Wars VII Plot by Common+Joe · 2013-02-16 10:52 · Score: 1
  
  And I thought these things smelled bad on the outside!
wow, that's an early appearance by Magius_AR · 2013-02-15 12:08 · Score: 1

7 minutes in? Bet he shoots first.
StarWars used to be one of my favourite movies... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 13:37 · Score: 0

...and will be no more. I resisted Episode I. Animated Clone Wars. But now VII!!!! Who needs it? Wasn't it enough with Indiana 4?
Hopefully no one will remind about "Back to the Future" and how many episodes (and money) after 3 could be made...
Comment Summary: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 14:42 · Score: 0

80 the prequels sucked, lucas sucks, hobbit sucked, pass it on
10 the prequels weren't that bad, and no i am not connected with (Dis ney | the iIDL) in any way
6 this Han idea will be implemented dis ney-style, and will suck
4 this Han idea might be cool, ack no stop modding me down, aw screw it
Take your dramatic nitpicking elsewhere. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 15:55 · Score: 0

That would take about 60 seconds for any halfway-competent makeup artist to take care of. No CGI necessary.
Why the Hobbit was NOT excellent, in one phrase: by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 16:00 · Score: 0

The Goblin King's scrotum-chins.
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labor unions by turtle+graphics · 2013-02-15 17:12 · Score: 1

It's clear that Han will be the main negotiator in the pension dispute with the Stormtroopers union. Thousands of aging clones, all with the same left kidney failure at the age of 63.
Dialog/Acting by phorm · 2013-02-15 17:56 · Score: 2

I think that you're underestimating his acting skills a bit. Some of the original Star Wars scripts would be a slight bit dull if not for Ford's unique "alterations"
For example, changing "I love you too" to I know in Empire. Acting with personality, and knowing when to override the script, is a much bigger skill than being an "Action Hero"
Can't fight the lone LeBoeuf fananic by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 18:37 · Score: 0

How many pro-LeBoeuf posts are you going to make today? shesh!
Spoilers: the role of Jabba the Hutt... by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 19:51 · Score: 0

...will be played by Fox News Latino host
He was good in Surf's Up. by Anonymous Coward · 2013-02-15 21:19 · Score: 0

A much overlooked and underrated movie.
Just sayin'.
Ooh! Ooh! by ChrisMaple · 2013-02-16 18:04 · Score: 1

With Kristen Johnston and French Stewart? I'm there, man.

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Plot hole (spoiler) by DarthVain · 2013-02-20 02:48 · Score: 1

I actually liked Star Trek even if they did the time travel thing. My beef is they did the time travel thing so poorly. The one huge stupid plot hole is:
So your world gets destroyed by a black hole, and you get thrown back in time by 3 years. Do you:
A) Go on a murderous rampage to commit genicide against the people who you blame for not saving your people.
OR
B) Actually just fly over and warn everyone and save your people etc...
I guess A) makes for a better more exciting movie. However if I was him, I think I would have just went ahead and save my people. That way I am a hero, and I don't die etc...
We'll see by Anonymous Coward · 2013-03-01 15:28 · Score: 0

Ford is a capable actor and it will depend on whether or not the story is well written. I think the core problem with the prequels were that Lucas believed that Star Wars was for kids, rather than for the kids who were kids when the original trilogy came out, and are adults now. In doing that, he alienated his core audience, trying to be everything to everyone. I don't think the size of the corporation making the movie will prevent it from being made poorly or not, but rather whether they recognize who it really means the most too, and who might enjoy it but forget about it thirty minutes after leaving the theatre. They've made a good start with the director, and I think there is a good chance the sequel series will be well done. Adults who love Star Wars are the target, not their kids, and they will make more money from the franchise by satisfying the target market, not trying to create a new one at the expense of the old.