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The Glorious Return of the Twinkie
iggymanz writes "The geek food staple the Twinkie is coming back. The sturdy main component of the foundation to the geek four food groups of sugar, fat, caffeine and bacon — with rumored shelf life on the order of the time span to cool a white dwarf to room temperature — the Twinkie, along with Ding-Dongs, Ho-Ho's and Cupcakes, will be returning 15 July 2013 to the shelves under new management of Apollo Global Management and C. Dean Metropoulous & Co which paid over 400 mega dollars (U.S.) for the brands."
Are they like regular dollars with superpowers?
"Make it idiot proof, and someone will make a better idiot."
"Popular products such as Ho Hos, Ding Dongs and Cupcakes will return to shelves next month under the new ownership of private equity firms Apollo Global Management and C. Dean Metropoulous & Co., which picked up several Hostess names this spring for $410 million." Why mangle the quote? You took the rest of it word for word.
with rumored shelf life on the order of the time span to cool a white dwarf to room temperature
From the AP:
During bankruptcy proceedings, Hostess had said that its overall sales had been declining, although the company didn't give a breakout on the performance of individual brands. But Seban is confident Twinkies will have staying power beyond its re-launch.
As for the literal shelf-life, Seban is quick to refute the snack cake's fabled indestructibility.
"Forty-five days - that's it," he said. "They don't last forever."
So you score with your left hand or the right hand?
What the hell goes through the brains of people who write like this? Re-runs of The Big Bang Theory? This is godawful.
The geek food staple the Twinkie is coming back.
Ok, show of hands. Who among you has actually consumed a twinkie after grade school? Last one I had was during the Reagan administration. Obviously they sell but I cannot recall the last time I saw anyone actually eat one. It's like the National Enquirer of foods. They apparently sell lots but you never actually see anyone buying them.
I don't really know any geeks who eat twinkies either. Is this a thing in some part of the country? I know some geeks who are overly fond of sugary treats (I'm one) but twinkies never seem to be in the shopping cart.
Mayor Bloomberg, is that you?
Not exactly the same, no. There are copyright restrictions on Hostess recipes.
I just want to know if whoever buys Ding Dongs also gets King Dongs- which truly are the same thing.
And I just RTFAd, which tells me that soon Carl's Jr. will feature these brands in their desert menu and you should be able to buy them anywhere Pabst Beer can be bought (two other overpriced-for-the-nutrition-you-get brands).
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Ever since hearing that after a nuclear war the only two things left are cockroach and twinkies, I've been keeping 2 twinkies in my basement since the 80's. And they're still 100% good. So I guess it's pretty much true.
These foods are naughty.
The Internet King? I wonder if he could provide faster nudity.
The USA public may have been sad at the thought of a Twinkies shortage, but the Secret Shadow Government engineered this re-booting of production for one reason. They know we need massive stores of Twinkies to sustain our brave zombie-killers in the upcoming Zombie Apocalypse.
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No, it's your lard ass.
PBR is overpriced?!?!
It is one of the cheaper beers around. To me, it tastes just about the same as Budwiser or the like. I'm not often in mood for the chug'em ice cold US lagers like these, but they do have their place (on extremely hot days here in NOLA), and I'd just as soon grab a PBR as a Bud or Bud Light, especially since the price is much lower.
When not sweating my ass off, and wanting to enjoy a beer for taste and more..I got for the better stuff, but PBR as far as that style of beer goes, is good as any of the rest and you often find it rock bottom prices.
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They said it was overpriced for what you get. Which is different than what you were arguing. Budweiser is also overpriced for the quality of cat pee you get as well.
1024 kilo dollars.
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PBR costs money correct?
That makes it over priced, they would have to pay me to drink it.
If you want bottled water, just drink that. If you must pickup a sixer of megabrewery product for a hot day you could get some blue moon.
By his condescending tone, I'd guess whichever one he chooses
Disappointing use of ambiguous significant figures. And why use the dollar sign if you're going to write "dollars" anyway?
It's probably better to write either "410 megadollars (US)." Or use "0.4 gigadollars (US)" if you don't consider M$US10 to be significant.
Horse pee, not cat pee. They proudly show off the source of their "beer" every chance they get.
Are we talking Mebidollars? Just want to be sure I'm doing the math right! :)
No there aren't. http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
I've been keeping 2 twinkies in my basement since the 80's. And they're still 100% good.
Unless you actually eat them how would you know?
Everybody knows that the four food groups are salt, sugar, cholesterol, and preservatives.
Please post less.
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PBR is 153 calories, for about fifty cents a can. 300 calories to the dollar is not bad at all.
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Even if there were, you just couldn't reprint the recipe-- in a cookbook, for example. If you know the recipe, nothing can stop you from using it.
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You need to elect a nerdy president to push through a mandatory bilateral pinkiectomy at birth. That way, mankind would finally get used to powers-of-two arithmetics and we'd be able to get rid of this decimal nonsense. Also, much more useful than circumcision if you absolutely feel the need to do religiously motivated surgery on infants.
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It seems wrong that a brand discontinued by its owner should sell for $400 million. Perhaps I just don't understand the consumer business. Maybe that's why I'm a hardware designer...
It's like an Americanised eclair. Pastry on the outside, cream on the inside. I don't think they usually put chocolate on the top either. Damn now I have a mad craving for eclairs.
On that note the geek culture of eating shit needs to stop, I mean this stuff combined with a sedentary lifestyle is basically slow or not so slow suicide. Eat small amounts of healthy food, cut back on the coffee and cut out the booze, get regular exercise. Being fat isn't fun or smart and sugar rushes wreck anyone's concentration. Diabetes, no thanks. I'm not a fitness freak but come on, take a half hour at the start of the day to prepare some sushi or maybe a ham and sundried tomato bagel with a touch of cheese for a treat, delicious and filling. Have a cup of green tea.
Could you not just write "Bazinga! 42! All Your Base!! xD!" instead?
If anything, the Twinkie is the food staple to those who are too nostalgic or stupid to know to buy ANYTHING ELSE.
The sturdy main component of the foundation to the geek four food groups of sugar, fat, caffeine and bacon
Ugh. I feel ashamed this is in the summary.
That makes it over priced, they would have to pay me to drink it.
If you want bottled water, just drink that. If you must pickup a sixer of megabrewery product for a hot day you could get some blue moon.
I believe PBR is actually cheaper than bottled water. I'll still stick with water, though.
I don't know, but it works for me.
or just watch zombieland
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Depends on the "brand" of bottled water.
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No-one eats them. Why do you think the company went bankrupt?
They sold 36 million of them in 2011. That's a lot of twinkies if "no-one" is eating them. I just can't figure out who.
Why do you think the company went bankrupt?
They went bankrupt because their (union) labor costs, pension costs and debt load. Incompetent management probably played a role somewhere in there too. They had significant revenue but their costs were out of line with the amount of revenue.
I live in NYC, and oh, I wish I had mod points...
I love it. I'm calling Twinkies "American eclairs" from here out.
There are copyright restrictions on Hostess recipes.
No, no, you cannot copyright how to make a functional object. That's what patents are for, and they run out after 20 years.
I have eaten one twinky. Had to see what it was, but it wasn't anything special. Guess you got to grow up with it, an acquired taste.
Excuse me, but please get off my Pennisetum Clandestinum, eh!
They must be happy now to have their Twinkies back! ;)
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The reason that Hostess went under is that management refused to play nice with their unionized workforce, and they decided that they'd rather have no company than a union shop. Now that the union is busted, they've restarted production with a non-unionized workforce, "generously" allowing those workers to return to their old jobs at about 1/3 what they were paid before.
And if you're wondering which side to blame: Before the strike that ended Hostess, there were a couple rounds of the union taking pay and benefit cuts followed by management giving themselves bonuses for convincing the union to accept the cuts. That's why the union didn't buy the "but if you don't take the cuts, the company will go under" argument.
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This is another case of corporate S.O.P: declare bankruptcy for one reason; to void any and all obligations to current - and especially - retired employees.
So as you gorge on your new Twinkiees, try to ignore that no doubt they were made by newly or re-hired workers from the now-permanent underclass: longer hours, lower wages, little or no benefits, and laughable health insurance.
Not that much of this will matter to the increasingly Randian crowd on Slashdot.
both hands would benefit from a twinkie in them. That sexy cream filling...
Disagreeing with you does not make me a troll.
This is exactly what the summary sounds like, quite the ostentatious start to the week.
No, there is "trade secret" protection for the recipe.
I said for the NUTRITION you get. Those beers are anything but nutritious- empty calories, none of the good "liquid bread" that thicker craft beers are made out of.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
To get the taste the same, you need a lot more than just a list of ingredients.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Calories are not equal to nutrition at all, unless you're on hospice.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
No there aren't. http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html
And even if there were, the actual Twinkie recipe probably says something like "Take 500 lbs of refined flour and dump it in a cement mixer...".
They don't make them suckers up in home-kitchen sized batches.
Twinkies and other processed foods aren't the problem. One Twinkies a week isn't likely to make a person gain weight, unless they're taking in exactly the number of calories that they're burning.
The problem is that people aren't moving enough and are eating too much. The fact that Twinkies are effectively just a source of calories without any redeeming value doesn't really factor into it.
I remember having a Twinkie once, and it was one of the most disgusting "foods" I've ever eaten. And I've eaten spiders, scorpions and tripe.
A) Twinkies have a normal shelf life, please stop with that myth.
B) I thought the for food groups were cokes, chips, cakes and pies.
Alternatively Can, bags, boxes and wrappers.
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There are copyright restrictions on Hostess recipes.
There is a recipe involved? I thought they just squirted some cream inside of a spongy cake and wrapped it in cellophane.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
It's not really supposed to taste good. It's comfort food. As in it presses specific buttons in the brain to make one feel better in the short term. Sort of similar to why some people have a harder time of managing their sodium intake than others. I have very little compulsion to consume too much salt, but I have to be really careful about my sugar intake because that's a problem for me.
And there's no mention of the Dolly Madison brand in TFA. Wonder and Drake's have buyers, but no mention of my favorite raspberry-flavored snack cake.
I take it you weren't drinking PBR a decade ago. My dad regularly complains about the price that he pays now versus a decade ago. A decade ago it was legitimately cheap beer, these days though, the price is way over what you're actually getting.
Yes, but it's not just calories that matter. Otherwise I could spend $5 a day on PBR and not need to spend money on any other food.
Obviously, that wouldn't work as PBR doesn't have much nutritional content to it. And consuming that much alcohol would lead to serious health problems.
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That is one of the stupidest and most harmful ways of thinking about Autism,
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You can't copyright recipes, only the expression.
http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl122.html
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You are also falling victim to self selected sample theory. You dont do it so no one else must do it.
Wasn't talking about me though I freely admit I don't eat them. I quite seriously can not recall having seen a box of twinkies in anyone's shopping cart in the last 20 years and I've been in the grocery store at least once every week or two during most of that period. I also have not seen twinkies in anyone's home or seeing anyone actually consume one in person during the same time period. Now obviously someone must be buying this things since they sold over 30 million of them a year as recently as 2011. But I'll be darned if I ever see anyone buying or eating them.
Also you *can* loose weight eating these things.
You can lose weight eating almost anything as long as you are careful with the portions. Doesn't mean it is a healthy way to do it but if you only eat 600 calories a day it doesn't much matter what the source of the calories is from a weight loss point of view.
buy them anywhere Pabst Beer can be bought"
so Portland, Or. And Manhattan.
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The reason they are known to have a long shelf life is because they use banana cream instead of dairy cream, giving them a comparatively longer shelf life.
They have used vanilla cream instead of banana cream since around WWII when there was a banana shortage.
The meter is defined to be the distance light travels through a vacuum in exactly 1/299792458 seconds.
Mod up or Down? Frankly, it's a good law and I would like to see it implemented nation wide.
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Twinkies (and cupcakes and hohos) first appeared at a couple locations here in the SF Bay Area a couple months ago. At first I thought it was a distributor that hoarded a few crates and was disgusted. (I think others thought the same thing cause the shelf didn't get touched for a few days).
But I asked and found out they were already back in production and being sold. The only change I saw was the lack of the paper base inside the packaging. Its now just a Twinkie and a wrapper.
Ahhh the Silicon Valley... I still can't get high speed internet at my house, but I can buy Twinkies...
I grew up with them, and I agree. I wouldn't say they're disgusting, but I have no problem passing them up at the supermarket.
Turn in your card. No geek eats that crap. They are the butt of jokes about surviving a nuclear winter and out lasting the cockroaches, not something we actually eat. These things are false of course, Twinkies dont' last all that long at all on the shelf. Its just fun to make fun of them since they are made out of some things one would not normally consider being edible in its natural form.
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The union took cuts twice, and each time management gave themselves huge bonuses (million +), . SO after that, why would the union cut yet again?
The union played a game of chicken with management and lost. I think it is clear the management was incompetent (and greedy) but apparently so was the union. The company had already been through bankruptcy once before. The union leadership BADLY misread the strength of their position and it cost a lot of people their jobs.
I think the negotiation went something like this.
Mgt: We need wage concessions, etc.
Union: We're going on strike
Mgt: We're going to liquidate the company if you do that
Union: You're a bunch of liars and poopyheads
Mgt: We warned you
Mgt takes company into Chapter 7
Union: Oh shit, they weren't kidding.
Mgt: Let's pay our selves some handsome bonuses before this thing completely goes under [/evil cackle]
Why 299792458? Why not 299792459? Why not 300000000? Why not 1000000000? And let's not even get into how long a second is.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
It's cheap nutrition, that doesn't mean you shouldn't eat anything else. Eating nothing but broccoli will kill you eventually, too. The idea is you just make PBR part of a balanced breakfast.
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Pointing out how terrible something is for you != banning it.
No actual geeks are. We aren't, by definition, that stupid.
Twinkies are not a geek food. When CmdrTaco left, so did the only actual geek that worked at slashdot.
No one left at the organization is qualified to even know what geeks do, let alone act like they can tell others about it.
Fat fucks with no social skills who dwell in moms basement drooling over a computer are not geeks, they are just fat slobs in front of a computer.
slashdot's editors don't even actually know what geeks are. Very sad. At least they removed the News for Nerds tagline from the site.
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Ahh yes, because one's lack of self-control is the reason we should implement a law telling a company what size cup they can serve their drinks in.
Should we tell car manufacturers their cars can't go faster than 75 mph too while we're at it?*
Again, we're trying to find a technical solution to a human problem.
* Have to make sure to get in the car analogy
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
Not arguing either way but why is it stupid and harmful?
You are all a bunch of idots.
Because true geeks can't afford Twinkies.
Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
No, they went bankrupt because their sales were cratering.
A company only goes bankrupt from falling sales if costs do not fall in proportion. Hostess had heavy debt loads, high labor costs (both management and union), and apparently heavy pension obligations as well. Their costs (of which union labor was a big component) did not fall fast enough to keep up.
Their 2011 sales were 28% lower than what they did in 2004.
So that means they needed to cut costs by 28%. A portion of that is going to come from labor when you are talking percentages that big. The fact that they had made prior concessions is irrelevant so long as sales continued to fall.
The funny part is years before the bankruptcy the unions had already agreed to allow thousands of jobs to be cut and millions in benefits as well.
I fully concur that the management did a horrible job and apparently wasn't negotiating in good faith. However the union screwed up bad. They went on strike thinking and the response was to liquidate the company. That means the unions BADLY misread the strength of their negotiating position. If they go on strike and the company liquidates, the union cannot escape blame. The main cause of the bankruptcy very probably was not the unions but pretending they didn't play any role is frankly naive. Unions never make labor costs lower. The unions basically cut their own throat here.
It might be a trade secret, though.
Do you even lift?
These aren't the 'roids you're looking for.
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I remember having a Twinkie once, and it was one of the most disgusting "foods" I've ever eaten. And I've eaten spiders, scorpions and tripe.
Try King County Jail, you'll find even worse food there.
Be seeing you...
I mean, the four food groups are sugar, carbs, chocolate and preservatives (which makes a Boston Creme donut the perfect food...).
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I remember having a Twinkie once, and it was one of the most disgusting "foods" I've ever eaten. And I've eaten spiders, scorpions and tripe.
I don't know if I'd tell people that, its more of a reflection on you than Twinkies.
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We want the Chocodile back!
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I'm an ADHD Aspie (yeah, interesting life) and I think that's not too far off actually...
Curious about your opinion behind that statement.
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No
You could spend $2.50 a day on PBR and $2.50 a day of milk, and then eat an occasional bite of veggies, and be totally fine.
what's this four groups nonsense, there are only two! meat and beer
I mean this stuff combined with a sedentary lifestyle is basically slow or not so slow suicide.
Yeah, so? It's their life. They can do what they want with it.
Besides, they'll just let someone else pick up the tab for their healthcare.
We will bankrupt ourselves in the vain search for absolute security. -- Dwight D. Eisenhower
All carbs, no protein or vitamins to speak of (they even filter it to the point you don't get the natural B12 from the Brewer's Yeast)?
By what stretch of the imagination is that good nutrition for your fifty cents? You get more nutrition buying an apple for the same price.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
Thanks. I'm from the other side of the Rockies and have never seen the brand.
SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
It the geek population in need of reduction? Again?
These things are so horribly unhealthy, it is impressive.
Most ACs are not even worth the keystrokes to insult them. Be generically insulted by this and ignored otherwise.
Just not under the same brand names - Cloud Cakes look and taste just like Twinkies, and Cocoa Cremes look and taste just like Ding Dongs.
Now that the possibility has been suggested, this needs to be a thing.
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Same great product! Without that heavy union after-taste.
Google says 1.6 grams of protein.
Apples have less protein, barely any more vitamins, and will cost more than fifty cents.
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Why 299792458? Why not 299792459? Why not 300000000? Why not 1000000000? And let's not even get into how long a second is.
Backwards compatibility, from when the meter was defined by "the length of this here stick."
Seconds, though? Absolutely. Sorcery that is. I guess there had to be a unit of time to make all of science useful in some way, but seconds are really SI unfriendly since, while you could use units like kiloseconds, you can't really abandon hours/minutes for it.
More Twoson than Cupertino
It's finally official: Twinkies are coming back - Tallahassee rejoices upon hearing the news!
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Obviously they already had a meter and determined they needed a more precise and repeatable definition that still matched what an actual meter was.
Ding Dongs, on the other hand, are fantastic.
-- "Oh. This guy again."
like wearing seatbelts? mandating crash test ratings? etc? We can go down the route of comparing it to cars if you *really* want to...
Should we tell car manufacturers their cars can't go faster than 75 mph too while we're at it?*
Works for me... "officer, you're mistaken, my car can never exceed the limit."
As we continue to optimize, society will become less tolerant of sub-optimal behavior.
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Tallahassee: "Oh, this Twinkie thing, it ain't over yet. Where are you, you spongy, yellow, delicious bastards?"
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I'm glad your taste buds are so evolved, Mr. Slashdot Cuisine! I've tried twinkies before, and they're good enough that your family will have to shackle you to stop you from scarfing down the whole box! Paraphrasing Chris Rock, twinkies are so good you'll suck a dick for one.
I swear to God...I swear to God! That is NOT how you treat your human!
I love it. I'm calling Twinkies "American eclairs" from here out.
Noooo! Slapping a French name on a shitty American product is why Americans think Chablis is terrible wine that comes in big glass jugs. Or boxes.
Eagles may soar, but weasels don't get sucked into jet engines.
A second is how much time elapses as light travels exactly 299792458 meters through a vacuum.
Would it be a good law if it discussed the size of your hard drive or ram sticks or monitor or whatever other piece of electronic/computer geear you want to substitute?
Would it be a good law if it discussed the absolute size of engine in your car (or electric motor as the case may be)?
Also, why would it have been acceptable to sell 18 ounces of soda with 2 ounces of rum mixed in but not 20 ounces of soda? Are those 2 ounces of rum really that much better for me than an extra 2 ounces of soda?
If it was so good, why could they sell me a 2-liter bottle but not a 64 ounce cup? Are the extra ~3.6 ounces really better for me as long as they are sealed in plastic?
...but I still won't eat them. I prefer Little Debbie Swiss Rolls. ...and RC Cola - Mmmmmm nom nom
Yodels > Swiss Rolls
More Twoson than Cupertino
most of us didnt want our tax dollars paying for your healthcare either but we got stuck with it. I for one am sick and tired of bloomberg deciding ever other day that he knows whats best for NY when he hasnt a clue. its none of your damn business how much soda i buy. why make me by 2 16 ounce cups? that just means im using 2 times as much plastic in straws, 2 times as much plastic in cup lids and around 2 times as much paper or plastic depending on the cup. I mean talk about adding more to the pollution levels. He really has not thought it through one bit
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Your tax dollars don't pay for my healthcare. If and when they do, it won't be because I voted for it. So why do you get a right to decide what I eat again?
they are not regulated to be limited but most companies do limit them. and different cars that are limited are limited at different speeds based on the car maker, not the government.
have you seen my sig? there are many others like it but none that are the same
Wasn't the meter originally defined as "1/10000 the distance from the equator to the north pole, as measured along the meridian running through Paris"?
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
Well... If all you do-gooder types would stop asking to pay for everyone's healthcare, maybe you wouldn't have to complain so much about everyone's lifestyle.
Speaking of having to pay for healthcare being an excuse to control lifestyles... I hear that certain lifestyles run a much higher risk of contracting diseases that are long-term and costly to treat. Maybe we should outlaw such lifestyles on the pretext of not wanting to pay for the downstream healthcare costs. Just saying.
Shit. That should be 1/10000000. Mixing up meters and kilometers again, dammit!
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but have you tried them deep-fried at the county fair?
a 30 pack of PBR at the beer store (not a gas station or small deli) goes for 14.80 here in NY, same as busch. Bud and miller 30 packs go for 21.50. but then the good micro brews go for about 8-15$ for a 22-24 oz bottle.
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I have to agree. Twinkies are pretty far down there. It's almost like Spinal Tap's "This one goes to 11" except in the case of America, the food quality starts somewhere around -5. Don't get me wrong, there's good food (and wine) available but the lowest common denominator stuff starts at really, really bad.
I'm not often in mood for the chug'em ice cold US lagers like these, but they do have their place (on extremely hot days here in NOLA), and I'd just as soon grab a PBR as a Bud or Bud Light, especially since the price is much lower.
Let me introduce you to something called "water". Based on your beer drinking history it looks like you're already familiar with the taste, but you may find the low price to your liking.
The kilometer was 1/10000 of 90 degrees of latitude. Which of course was for less natural for navigation than the nautical mile, which was 1 minute of latitude. The metric system is just a relic of the days when calculations were done on paper, and needs to be abandoned in favor of the One True System of measure: the Furlong-Firkin-Fortnight system!
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If it was the zombie apocalypse, the first thing I would look for, after a shotgun, is a blessed Twinkie.
-Talahasee
All three of them, actually. Had this argument back in 1986, and eventually demonstrated that everyone was right.
After PBR caught on with the hipster crowds, the price went up. I'm not sure if retail price has changed much, but I've been to bars that charge as much for a PBR as they do for a craft brew.
Apparently wizard is not a legitimate career path, so I chose programmer instead.
Have gnu, will travel.
I'm trying real hard to not to imagine the cows these bananaudders are from!
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dropped 3 years, as actuarial estimates predicted a spike in obesity and sugar-induced murders.
is that corporate whores like you think that it's OK to fuck over thousands as long as the benefits only go to a few of your masters.
If it was so good, why could they sell me a 2-liter bottle but not a 64 ounce cup?
And I'm still wondering how the sugar that isn't in a 64 oz cup of diet Mt. Dew merits a prohibition on selling me a 64 oz cup of diet Mt. Dew. And where the government thought it had the right to ban such a sale in the first place.
I think this misapprehension comes from the idea that geeks work all hours and hence feed from vending machines at the office. The only problem with that theory is that I have never seen Twinkies in a vending machine, it's always some competitor's brand. You have to go outside, down the street and to the gas station to find Twinkies. Not very time-efficient at all.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I hear that certain lifestyles run a much higher risk of contracting diseases that are long-term and costly to treat. Maybe we should outlaw such lifestyles on the pretext of not wanting to pay for the downstream healthcare costs. Just saying.
Yeah! This. I hear that the hetero style often results in pregnancy (a horrible debilitating disease, if you ask any woman, especially around 9 months in) and huge long-term costs as everyone pays to feed and educate the results. It should be outlawed.
Little Debbie is a cheap and easy slut. Used to be a quarter a pack up until recently.
To be fair one or two varieties are OK, but for most of them, the "icing" is waxy and greasy.
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
I said for the NUTRITION you get.
Anyone who drinks PBR for the nutrition is a moron and their opinion should not be ignored, it should be lampooned and vilified at every opportunity.
I've never had a Twinkie, and I'm fairly certain I qualify as a geek. I just wish they'd bring back Spaulding Kruller donuts.
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Why is this modded down to -1, Troll when it's sparked such a conversation and has so many replies? Mod parent up, damnit.
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I recently read a book (A Deepness in the Sky) that used kiloseconds, megaseconds, etc. instead of hours and minutes. It was pretty interesting, and by the end of it, I had a pretty good grasp of the relative time intervals.
If you can't convince them, convict them.
Although that's the definition, it's a poor definition. One is left asking, "What's a second?" (To which the A&C answer is "No, What's on second.")
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Mod up or Down? Frankly, it's a good law and I would like to see it implemented nation wide.
And how do you propose to enforce it? What's stopping someone from buying multiple, smaller drinks? (Hint: Nothing. Even if you implement a max soda purchase limit per customer, they can always go to another shop and get more there. It really is a completely idiotic law of the highest order.)
I don't think people should drink 64oz sodas, but I also don't think it's any of my damn business, and I have no right to dictate what people drink. I say this as a teetotaler who also hasn't had soda or caffeine in almost 10 years.
If you can't convince them, convict them.
it's a shame that most of the good-for-you foods only get (if any at all) a smidgeon of the amount of subsidies going into corn, wheat, and rice.
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Besides, they'll just let someone else pick up the tab for their healthcare.
And therein lies the problem, I get to pay for someone's poor lifestyle. It would be nice to have a healthcare penalty on smoking, drinking, and eating processed foods such as this.
You were paying for everybody's healthcare already in about the most inefficient way possible (ER visits), you're just too dumb to know it.
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*blinks*
Are you really making the argument that a can of PBR is more nutritious than an apple? I'm just going to file this one away as a poor attempt at devil's advocacy because I can't believe that anyone would honestly buy that.
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Jesus was a liberal
This nationalizing the health care industry is more complicated then I thought! /Dennis Moore
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Anyone who has had a Tastykake knows better that to eat Twinkies.
Chocolate deficiency would kill you.
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Although that's the definition, it's a poor definition. One is left asking, "What's a second?" (To which the A&C answer is "No, What's on second.")
Where's a mod point when you need it. (Aka, I'm here for you...)
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I've got MOD points but I can't let this slide. The management was very, very competent. It's just they were after something other than a successful company. To wit: The Pension Fund. The hard part about stealing a pension fund is doing it legally. It requires enormous skill, business and legal knowledge to do it.
What Hostess' management did wasn't just mismanagement, it was a complete lack of management. The bought the company, paid themselves just well enough to stay within the bounds of legality, and then ignored the company entirely. They put no effort into expanding, into controlling and managing the supply chain, or into anything else. Then they sat back, waiting for the company to die and used the pension to pay back the creditors they'd racked up debt with.
The last part that makes it all nice and legal is when a judge ruled that the creditors get paid before employees do. If you paid your own cash money into your pension while working at Hostess you literally got robbed. As an added bonus they killed a major Union without any bad press.
But nobody talks about that. All they talk about is playing an imaginary game of chicken. FYI: You can't win a game that the other side isn't really playing.
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Noooo! Slapping a French name on a shitty American product is why Americans think Chablis is terrible wine that comes in big glass jugs. Or boxes.
Well said. Now, where's my bourbon...
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to Unions in South America. Mostly because it wasn't wasn't that long ago...
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But chablis IS terrible wine that comes in big glass jugs.
For good wine, I'd say go for the red muscadine from North Carolina. But the muscdine is an American grape that grows singly, not in clusters.
Obviously, some people just have no taste.
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Google says 1.6 grams of protein.
Apples have less protein, barely any more vitamins, and will cost more than fifty cents.
Apple is loaded with vitamins, minerals and antioxidants. http://caloriecount.about.com/calories-apple-i9003
Nah, the 10 millionth was the original design, as far as I understand it. There was a debate between that, or the length of a pendulum that has a one second stroke (which are pretty close, but pendulum varies with altitude).
It was later redefined to be equal to the distance light travels in 1/c of a second.
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The meter is the length of light travelled in a vacuum over a very small period of time (1/300,000 of a second or so).
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I'm with you. I hate /. pandering to the "geeks are overweight slobs who spend all day in darkened basement and eat nothing but Twinkies, pizza and Cheetos" stereotype.
Any real geek knows that in order to do your best thinking, you need to eat reasonably healthily, and do a certain amount of exercise.
"Geek food staple"? Bollocks.
You say "cream". It's a non-dairy "creamy filling" made of sugar, water, oil and vanilla flavouring.
You say "pastry". It's sponge cake.
I DO appreciate good beers most of the time. I like a lot of the US craft beers...and I myself, am a home brewer.
I grab the stuff like PBR for more of thirst quench ice, ice cold when I've been out doing something like mowing the lawn in 95F 90% humidity...when something heavier than that just isn't pleasant....this is 'chug' beer.
Also, good for fishing out on the boat on a hot sunny day...so you don't get trashed, but still have something to sip on.
When in a bar or somewhere nice, or indoors at home, I crack open something much more substantial.
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I suspect olive oil will be substituted for fat!
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I have the 'beetus. So I never really ate many of them in my lifetime.
However, it is great that they are coming back because they were one of my favorite "cheat" foods. I could make them last 4 or more days by cutting them in half and freezing the parts. Whenever I wanted a cheat and my blood glucose allowed it, I'd warm of a half and enjoy.
Actually "the length of this here stick" is the yard, as in "yardstick".. Of course one could always make the case for the cubit ...
Well, it was meant to be a circular reference to the GP post's definition of a meter.
Mmmm... eclairs. Nothing like twinkies which are a form of commercial sponge cake filled with artificial cream, vs an elcair which is light choux pastry filled with fresh creme and iced with chocolate on top. Now I want to wander down to the bakery around the corner to see if they've sold out yet.
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He didn't point out that it was terrible, except for calling it crap, a generic term. He did say that "nobody should even be eating" it, similar to the sentiments expressed by Bloomberg about many things, just before he tries to make it a law. The comparison was apt.
Oh, and it was a throwaway joke, but thanks for overanalyzing it.
Speaking of having to pay for healthcare being an excuse to control lifestyles... I hear that certain lifestyles run a much higher risk of contracting diseases that are long-term and costly to treat. Maybe we should outlaw such lifestyles on the pretext of not wanting to pay for the downstream healthcare costs. Just saying.
You want to outlaw obesity? Smoking? Awesome! Right on!
Oh, you meant gay men? That's not a lifestyle, that's how they were born. If you meant you'd outlaw promiscuity without condoms, regardless of sexuality, you'd at least be a little closer.