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New Ford Mustang May Have Electronic "Burnout" Button
cartechboy writes "Ford has decided to take the burnout into the 21st century for the new 2015 Mustang. The Mustang's new 'electronic' burnout system is intended to enable perfect burnouts every time, much like launch control has made it easier to accelerate quickly from a stop. So think of every new Mustang with a bright red 'burnout' button. While the details on how the burnout control system will work remain secret, it's possible that a combination of the features used in a typical launch control system, including traction and rev-limiting controls, together with a front brake locking system, could enable Ford to pull together existing technology in a completely new way. So far Ford has no comment."
You have this low-tech piece of equipment that brakes the non-drive wheels while spinning the drive wheels (called a "line lock"), problem solved. I guess they are going to do that, but with some electronics?
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How about providing a standard transmission and nice heavy duty clutch so you can just kick up the RPMs and dump the clutch? Launch the old fashioned way and forget a push button. Might as well add a voice command to the Sync system to respond to "ENGAGE!" so you can sit back like Capt Picard.
"Press this button to receive citation"
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I guess I'm underwhelmed. I never realized people were that into destroying tires.
This used to be called line lock. For 1/4 milers it was a help to get the engine revved up to the torque band while heating the rubber on the tires to get better traction. When the green light comes on you release the brakes and go.
When I was a kid we got tickets for negligent driving if we squealed the tires. The cops will have fun with this.
Wow, this button is a new low both for Ford and for the Mustang.
Burnouts are for morons in the first place, but If you can't do one without a button you shouldn't even be behind the wheel.
Does it have an electric mullet button?
my karma will be here long after I'm gone
Burnouts are a skill acquired when a Bogan (White trash or whatever) is finally able to purchase a vehicle capable of breaking traction on dry ground. After this qualification they are ready for a doughnut (or Dohhy) usually in a carpark where there are plenty of victi^h^h^h^h^honlookers present to qualify you as a full on dickhead.
Like much automation these days, such a feature would automate the process of becoming a dickhead, allowing many more dickheads because, as you are probably aware, what the world needs is more dickheads.
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I'd call it the "Perfect Ticket button" (tm). If you do that in eyesight of a cop that's what you'll get. Who's kidding who, no one with the minimum testosterone required to buy the car will be saving that button for the track....
You need a button for this? For me it's apply the right foot to the floor at any speed. You can do this while stopped as well to make the tires break loose and smoke. It's all about applying more force than the mechanical traction of the tires will allow on the road surface. It seems nowadays these kids need a button for everything. I'm sure if they could wire it into an iPhone or Android app it would be even better.
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Does it have DJ Atomika on the radio?
You are welcome on my lawn.
Wonder how much the tire companies paid Ford to put this in.
Also, if you need a button to do a burnout...
I'd prefer a turbo boost button ala Knight Rider's KITT
(but can only be used once per episode)
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Does it have a Donut Chip also?
Table-ized A.I.
Says the guy with a Darth Vader case mod
Table-ized A.I.
Still is called line lock, which I installed on my mustang cobra, and takes about 10 seconds of spinning to get the slicks hot and sticky. "Launch control" is the same as revving up the engine and engaging the clutch at the right RPM, which is about 3500 rpms for me. It took about a dozen passes at the local dragway before I broke the rear axle, and I'm sure this will happen on the new cars too. I'm sure mechanics will have fun with this. :)
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This used to be called line lock. For 1/4 milers it was a help to get the engine revved up to the torque band while heating the rubber on the tires to get better traction. When the green light comes on you release the brakes and go.
When I was a kid we got tickets for negligent driving if we squealed the tires. The cops will have fun with this.
Due to cops being more worried about simple revenue generation activities (i.e., enforcing unrealistically low speeding guidelines and snooping on stopped vehicles where driver is using their phone), all it's going to do is to annoy residents where the local bad boys like to street race (i.e., major road a few blocks away from my house).
Thanks Ford. Just like selling an exploit script to script kiddies - profiting off the misery of the many while catering to the few dumb idiots who are too unskilled or lazy to learn how to do it properly.
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We never had anything with enough power to break anything. We had to go to the strip and watch the nitro boys blow shit up.
No, but maybe you can install the Donald Trump button backward.
Table-ized A.I.
what is a burnout
if it pulls the front wheels off the ground and continues to maintain lane.
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what is a burnout
An IT worker over 30.
There is a magical easy button for burnouts. It's called a gas pedal
Electric Mullet is the name of my modern country band.
As a stressed programmer, I press the "Burnout" button all the time. But it just pops a message saying, "Shouldda been a dentist, like your mom told you."
Table-ized A.I.
"Modern country [music]", isn't that an oxymoron? What's next, Modern Renascence music? Complete with the Electric Racket?.....Hey, I think I'm getting the hang of this.
Table-ized A.I.
"Modern Country Band" is the name of my Mumford and Sons cover band.
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Because there's a legal reason to want to keep your wheels spinning while you drive off, it'll be labeled "Snow and Ice". Try driving away on a slippery surface on a slight inclination with a car with traction control. You'll never get anywhere, unless you can disable it.
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Burnouts may be showy. But you get better acceleration from a standing start if you DON'T break traction.
What I'd find more useful is a "button" for automatic maximum-traction acceleration (to a presetable speed or until you let off the gas). Think "anti-lock brakes" but in acceleration.
(Though what I'd find FAR more useful is integrating "tow-haul" mode with the speed control.)
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Oh, I thought it was the new Ford Taurus.
Reading the comments I eventually got enough context to track down the Wikipedia entry, which says: "drag racing tires perform better at higher temperatures, and a burnout is the quickest way to raise tire temperature immediately prior to a race. They also clean the tire of any debris and lay down a layer of rubber by the starting line for better traction."
So... is this just for drag racing? Or is there some other point to this?
There is nothing cool about a factory button that shows off for you.
What "skill" and motor head credibility does a big black button give you?
The button should just cause a speaker to blare out "WANKER!" it would have the same effect.
So I'd be pretty surprised if this were true... and if it is... lol, noobs.
Back when I was in college I had a monster of a car from the 1960's, in near mint shape with a whopping 425 CuIn (that's 7L in today's parlance) V8 (that's two inline 4's joined at the hip in today's parlance). One night when I thought I was alone on a country back road, I decided to see what it had off the line at a stop sign. It had quite a lot and several left over. Alas, as the tires finished skidding a pair of headlights came on in a parking lot I was unaware of and proceded to pull me over, with the assistance of some flashing blue and red lights. After complimenting me on a true classic automobile, the deputy let me off with a warning and told me if I wanted to be an asshole, to go do it somewhere else.
I miss that car.
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Maybe it'll be labelled 'douche' or 'my moms car'
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I will create a big green drift button
An incredibly stupid idea that is not only illegal in most states but also an invitation for liability lawsuits and potential accidents... Hoepfully saner heads will prevail and this "feature" will never see the light of day!
I've made some decent bets about whether or not someone can do a donut as well as my 96 Cougar...
Cars with always-on traction control can't do a donut or burnout, no matter how much horsepower they have.
It really pisses them off when you can do a kille,r around-the-front-wheels donut; and they can't even break it loose. :)
One of my coworkers has a newish Mustang with a blower, and it won't but barely squeak the tires. It won't do anything showy, unless you want to go 100mph in a parking lot. :facepalm:
I'm sure that can be fixed with a tune, but it sure is funny to see someone pay that much and be that ripped off, experience-wise. :)
Dude with the Audi was able to do a 4 wheel drive donut; not something I'd seen, but wtf, it's all good. :)
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Completely dumb feature... but who wouldn't actually want it? You might not ever press it. But its there...calling to you... and one drunken night... magic will happen... and automotive landscaping.
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"Modern country [music]", isn't that an oxymoron?
Considering most, if not all, country music played on the radio today is little more than rock/pop with a southern accent and possibly a violin (sorry, fiddle), on occasion, I'd say it's not. I like all kinds of music. But solid body guitars with heavy distortion don't mix well with what I consider to be country music. It's kind of like adding a theremin to an a cappella group. Hell, the Eagles would be considered country music by today's standards.
Wait until you feel launch control one of those with about 600 horsepower and four wheel drive.....
Then turn while going 80mph dead 90* right without touching the brakes while flooring it mid turn and skipping all four tires as they fight for grip around the corner before a gear-shift and another whiplash back into the seat as the light posts fly by faster and faster until you're casually going 160mph....
You just confuse the stupid Honda boys who have $16K cars with the Evo owners who have a $40,000 car wearing a $16,000 shell. But it's not a toy nor is it "cheap".
My last Evo IX ran low 10's on the stock motor spinning all four tires with drag radials. My brand new Evo X stickered at $41,500 and has a nice long warranty. When that's up I'll spend about $1500 and add 150whp over stock that hits hard at 3000rpm.
You need to reconsider what the junk "rice" is.
This used to be called line lock. For 1/4 milers it was a help to get the engine revved up to the torque band while heating the rubber on the tires to get better traction. When the green light comes on you release the brakes and go.
Sounds like a good way to lose. I can't say I've been to a track for years, not that 1/4 mile was ever that exciting to me. But the burn outs were done in a "bleach pit" The thought being that the bleach would somehow help to soften tires. It was more to create tons of smoke than anything. Once the tires were hot and sticky, you wold go to the starting line. The idea was to have better traction at the launch so you could get more power to the ground. If you were spinning your tires, you weren't applying it to forward momentum.
So I can do a "showtime" down the main street during rush hour. I'd like to hit that 25X multiplier and chalk up 30 or 40 million points.
Might be more necessary than you would think with the change from a solid rear axle to a IRS. IRS is well known for being much hoppier and letting the wheels launch into the wheel well during burnouts and hard launches.
Ford is not simple mined enough to do that. Their lawyers would strangle them. Unsafe acceleration violated traffic laws and God forbid a crash takes place Ford would be wide open to liability.
If you can't do a burn out with a Ford Mustang, you should probably go buy yourself a Prius or a Miata instead.
I'm thinking that it is pretty difficult to do a burn out in a Prius, but it is pretty easy in a Miata. It varies, depending upon the year, but for older ones, they should be near 140hp in an about 2300lb car with rear wheel drive and a 4.++:1 drive ratio. At these numbers burn-outs are easy to achieve with little problem, even when unwanted. As they say on automotive boards, "ask me how I know" or "don't ask me how I know," depending upon outcome.
Thus, your advice to get a Miata to do burn-outs if one can't do them in a Mustang is probably good advice. I don't think it holds up well for the Prius, though.
My V8 may only be 5.6L, but it will still leave a patch if I let it (realistically, it probably has more power than any of the 60s muscle cars, given the way that measuring power has changed over the decades). I've dione it by accident before in reverse (there's no traction control in reverse).
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The question I want to know is will this be an option on my first driverless car? It would be helpful if a button for circle work was also provided.
Evidently with US auto bailouts/bankruptcy you are in the minority.
Agree with you on the "rice burners" with the ridiculous spoilers. Some of these things are so large I think they were designed to keep 747's from taking off.
For all that, you'll still be in a ricer.
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If you can afford a Mustang GT, and need a button to do a burnout, you're probably a complete wanker who can't actually drive it.
Just sayin'. This is technology to compensate for lack of skill in middle-aged men.
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"Modern country [music]", isn't that an oxymoron?
Considering most, if not all, country music played on the radio today is little more than rock/pop with a southern accent and possibly a violin (sorry, fiddle), on occasion, I'd say it's not. I like all kinds of music. But solid body guitars with heavy distortion don't mix well with what I consider to be country music. It's kind of like adding a theremin to an a cappella group. Hell, the Eagles would be considered country music by today's standards.
The Eagles have always straddled the line between country and rock but their last album (particularly the tracks released as singles) was decidedly leaning more to the country side.
Probably because rock radio is practically non-existent anymore.
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With all of the electronic system between the driver and the actual operation of the car, you pushing down the pedal will be mitigated by a series of computer algorithms including traction control, energy regeneration and dynamic stability control. Meaning you'll accelerate as fast as the car will allow you to accelerate.
As for a Miata, yeah you can set one up so it'll be more fun...
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Tesla already has one.
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"Modern country [music]", isn't that an oxymoron?
It only became an oxymoron when you added "[music]."
Sponge Bath wrote "modern country band."
EPA emissions on cars regarding greenhouse gas emissions have to cover all amounts emitted including gasses released from paint, used in the making of plastics and tires. By adding this button they facilitate a way to release smoke and other gasses from the tires into the air.
Ford's shitty Mustang has so little power it needs electronic help with doing a burnout? That's pretty sad considering real men only need a good manual transmission to do real burnouts, and I was doing burnouts in an 87 Tercel hatchback equipped with a shitty 4 cylinder engine, and killing the tires or rims every time. Once I killed the pressure pate, that was fun to replace.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
I used to have a Lotus Esprit, but no matter how hard I mashed the pedal, it would never smoke the tires. It would just go faster. It was so infuriating how it would just sprint away from the other vehicle instead of sitting there smoking the tires like the other vehicle.
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31 year old IT worker here, can confirm. The money is fantastic, unfortunately you trade in your soul.
Texas Transportation Code - Section 545.420. Exhibition of acceleration. It's illegal in the state of Texas.
Life is not for the lazy.
I hypermile mine to 31mpg then blow away pretty much anything from a stop
So, you're an asshole coming *and* going.
It probably works exactly like a line lock - locks up the front brakes without applying any pressure to the rears. It can be found in pretty much every car built for drag racing in the last 60 years (aftermarket). The only thing that would be innovative is the fact it's done from the factory in a car intended for the street.
Ricers will have the last laugh because their cars will last twice as long as the average mustang.
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Then turn while going 80mph dead 90* right without touching the brakes while flooring it mid turn and skipping all four tires as they fight for grip around the corner before a gear-shift and another whiplash back into the seat as the light posts fly by faster and faster until you're casually going 160mph....
I'm pretty sure you typed that with one hand.
Spinning the drive wheels much faster then you're moving (if you're even moving) so the tires burn up and make smoke and burn a hole in your wallet when you visit the tire store the next day.
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You're doing it wrong then.
I leased out my soul. I get better returns at the end of each year at tax time.
Which one?
It seems they ranged from 265 to 350 hp, and 140 to 290 ft-lbs torque. The tires and road conditions make a big difference too.
When I bought my '00 WS/6 (stock 320hp and 345 ft-lbs torque), it game with some awful tires. The test drive was in the rain. The tires spun anywhere under 3rd gear. It was a "fun" test ride, and the salesman loved it, but I would have preferred to drive it. It had a new set of tires the next week, and that got rid of the unintentional tire spins.
12 years and 130,000 miles later...
The last dyno run measured it at 330hp and 345 ft-lbs torque. That's with the original engine, and even spark plugs. It just has some bolt-on stuff, but nothing internal done.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
Ya, most states have laws against it. Except on private property.
Florida defines any surface made for vehicle travel, attached to a road, as being "public" for the purpose of motor vehicle citations. So a burnout in your driveway is illegal. Rolling a stop sign in a store parking lot is illegal too. If you do a burnout in a store parking lot after hours, and you exceed the posted speed limit (usually like 15mph or less), you can get cited with speeding, unlawful exhibition of speed, careless driving. If you go past the line at the end of a row without stopping, you can get a ticket for failing to obey a traffic control device. So 5 easy tickets, and they don't even have to contact the property management to try to cite you for trespassing and/or vandalism.
Usually, they'll just tell you to stop it and go home.
Racetracks usually have multiple gates between the public roads and the track, which makes it legal.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
If true, and I suspect product liability would make it somewhat dubious, this shows just how bereft of ideas and 'innovation bankrupt' the car industry in the USA (and elsewhere) has become.
Never mind trying to make cars that are lighter, take far less energy and reduce emissions, that's all too hard - "Look here, tyre smoke! Heh-heh-heh-heh". It's the epitome of a use-it-up and wear-it-out mentality.
At least Tesla are pushing in the right direction, albeit still wedded to the idea that a car has to be a giant behemoth to succeed (and that's because Detroit has written the rule book for most of the last century). NO wownder some in the industry are shitting themselves. Look out dinosaurs, the asteroid approaches.
Or a bloody foreigner. Not everybody behaves like an American. In lots of places wasting your tires is just plain stupid.
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Burnouts are classified as unsafe acceleration. This system actually puts a kink in that. You cant say its uncontrolled if the computer is keeping you rock solid.
Good-bye
I would like to see citation of rolling through a privately owned and operated stop sign inducing a ticket. I have no duty to obey signs the state has not placed themselves.
Good-bye
But but but... if I have to be an attention whore on private property, no one is going to SEE ME!
I did pretty amazing burnouts with a '79 Celica GT (and it was only a 96HP 4-banger), but it had a limited slip diff and none of that safety stuff (TCS,ABS,Airbags and such). People needed to know how to drive in those years...
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Correct. I used to hang out at the Royal Purple Raceway. So it's legal there. But contrast that to say Rankin Road (back in 2000 and prior), it was a massive bust on the weekend nights. Being a public road and all. Police would show upon the hour and cuff racers and spectators alike. For good reason too. Many fatalities occurred there in its long illegal tradition.
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What IT worker had one to begin with?
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Unless the button magically disables itself on DOT roads, you're not going to see it in a production car.
The GT-R (at least the original, I haven't continued to follow it) limited itself unless the GPS told it you were at a known race track and if I recall correctly one of the recent Mustangs required an extra or special key to enable it's full abilities. So it is possible to limit it's functionality in some way (read: limit their liability when you do something stupid).
Burnouts are not about acceleration. It's about tire smoke, doing donuts and having fun.
BTW while doing burnout, tires lose traction. For acceleration you need all traction you can get.
I'm not insane. My mother had me tested.
The key you're referencing is for the Boss 302, which remaps the engine tuning to provide additional power and less streetability.
I'm definitely of the camp that no auto manufacturer is going to put a burnout button on their vehicle, both because of legal reasons, and because burnouts prematurely wear many components, including brake pads, tires, transmission, axles, etc. The maintenance/warranty issues would be absurd. Imagine you do a burnout with Ford's burnout button, dump the clutch, and it shatters, tearing a hole in the transmission bellhousing, opening up the hood, and puncturing a tire. Then imagine a smoking hot piece of clutch disc hits someone and injures them. Option 1 is that Ford says - "Well, you took the risk using that feature, so we're not covering it." Option 2 is is that the person hit with the clutch disc sues the driver, Ford, the dealership, the engineer that designed the clutch, the engineer that designed the burnout system, their insurance companies, et al, and comes away with a six-figure settlement.
The first number was the factory spec. The second set was measured on a dyno.
I did change a few things. There were intake restrictions that I removed. The factory Y-pipe was designed for ground clearance, but had a nasty restriction too, so I swapped it for an aftermarket Y-pipe.
It probably was a little bit higher at some point between about 20k miles and 130k miles, since it still had the factory spark plugs for the 130k, mile dyno test.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
Bleach doesn't soften the tires, it's just more slippery than water, so people with underpowered cars use it to do burnouts. At a drag strip, they use water, because normal people that understand how to drag race wouldn't let bleach touch the paint on their vehicles. The idea is to heat up the tires (by doing a burnout) and thus, soften them to get better traction.
That said, you NEVER do this with street tires or drag radials, only slicks.
According to a Nissan salesman I spoke to, they had a launch button a few years back in its top end car, and as soon as you pushed the button certain warranties were voided. It seemed like a really stupid idea to have a button that could potentially cost you thousands in future repairs, but I'm pretty sure that Nissan didn't mind not covering the car.
My V8 may only be 5.6L, but it will still leave a patch if I let it (realistically, it probably has more power than any of the 60s muscle cars, given the way that measuring power has changed over the decades). I've dione it by accident before in reverse (there's no traction control in reverse).
The gearing in reverse usually works out that you can smoke in reverse no matter how weak the mill. The engine I had, stock, was about 330hp, but had a massive 420 ft/lb of torque. It was the short-stroke predecessor of the 455 and was loved by drag racers and boaters.
I miss that car.
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It would be interesting to see what MS does with it. Maybe you could use voice control to start it (which wouldn't work until you start swearing at it- a safety feature!), or push 4 or 5 on-screen buttons and then wait until it decides to do it.
Here's a writeup on it from the Florida Attorney General's office.
http://myfloridalegal.com/ago.nsf/0/2be69982597761f385256eb7005f8fdf?OpenDocument.
Basically, anywhere that is a road, or there is expressed or implied consent to drive, traffic laws can be enforced.
You could argue that you don't have to obey them. You would lose in court. And as I mentioned in the previous post, this is Florida law, so your state may be different.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
Apparently I'm doing it wrong too. The money sucks and I traded in my soul.
First of all its a drunk driving case, so hes on the wrong side of the argument to begin with. IN THAT light, i can see Florida extended their rights to private roadways in the name of safety. However, i dont feel that this particular argument would apply to privately placed stop signs, due to the fact that they are arbitrarily placed by untrained/unauthorized personnel.
Good-bye
As opposed to?
Table-ized A.I.
I have a '01 WS/6 and it still runs great. I use it as my winter car now mostly because it sits next to my '14 stingray.
Have you seen some of the real stop signs out there? I'd say many of them were arbitrarily placed by untrained, though authorized, personnel. Seriously, most of them could be replaced with yield signs, which is what they effectively are since few people do more than roll through them, and allow our traffic enforcement to focus on issues that might actually make a difference.
Yup, that's the difference between a sports car and a GT cruiser.
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Actually it's not even illegal in Texas, at least not by that law unless you are (and can be proven to be) attempting to impress or show off to another person.
IANAL, but I do know my rights pretty well.
Modern mustangs are quite reliable, and get remarkable gas mileage for the power they make. The downside is the econobox ride and interior, but that's the problem with ricers in the first place. I'll stick with my V8 sport/luxury sedan - it won't win on a race track, but it's plenty fast on the street, and it's a vastly superior car for bumper-to-bumper 30MPH traffic in the rain.
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Considering most, if not all, country music played on the radio today is little more than rock/pop with a southern accent
Funny, I was saying that in the 80s. It's just moreso now.
You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all alike.
So, do a burnout on the lawn.
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Hummm, so when we get the electronic crash button?
Watch the guys that are making big HP, and they burnout all the way across the start line. Then, back up and stage. The idea being this would leave a strip of sticky rubber on the ground for them to launch off of.
dump the clutch
In principle I agree with everything you said except that. If you are doing a burnout that means power is already going to the wheels and therefore the clutch is already engaged.
What you are thinking of there is what launch control systems help with (engaging the transmission at the optimal time for the best off the line start) and all of the cars I'm familiar with that have such an option also use transmission and drive line components that can handle torque values much greater than the engine (from the factory) can provide. I expect constant use, however, would shorten the lifespan of wear components (clutch, transmission fluid, etc..) considerably though.
Low hanging fruit. If a COP sees you burning out at a stop sign/light, expect to get ticketed for it. I know because it happened to both me and a friend of mine.
Life is not for the lazy.
I ran across a T-junction with a yield sign at the base of the T not too long ago. As there was also gravel in the intersection, I believe it may have been very slightly uphill, and night, I didn't immediately realize it was a T-junction and very nearly had a heart attack.
Only in the rural Midwest...
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What about a 80 Mph 180. How well does an Evo handle that? You only have 3 standard lanes to work with (Eastbound, center turning, Westbound). Handle that without touching dirt, and you might be able to hold your own against a stock 90's model Chevrolet Caprice Classic (NOT the 9C1 Police Package).
Bleach doesn't soften the tires, it's just more slippery than water, so people with underpowered cars use it to do burnouts. At a drag strip, they use water, because normal people that understand how to drag race wouldn't let bleach touch the paint on their vehicles. The idea is to heat up the tires (by doing a burnout) and thus, soften them to get better traction.
That said, you NEVER do this with street tires or drag radials, only slicks.
Like I said, it's been some time since I went to a 1/4 mile track. It was very common practice back then. When I went, I always drove around the bleach pit.
Many of the big hills with intersections at the top in my area have three stop signs. Uphill traffic doesn't have to stop. The reason is the grain trucks can't get going again when they come to a stop pointing uphill.
The general rule everywhere else I've driven is that traffic going straight has right-of-way, and those turning yield, which I suppose is why I was so surprised.
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I had an '88, so it was the 4 banger with a turbo, but it was already more than powerful enough. I test drove a V8 turbo with the 350 HP, and it was just crazy quick. It didn't smoke the tires off the line either, but the back end liked to try to crawl out from under you on left turns.
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I've gotten a ticket for excessive wheel spin, but that's Illinois.
No, it's just that when you're making 10,000 horsepower in a top fuel car, which really have no brakes, you have to do the burnout, then let the drag on the tires and aero package slow the inertia of the car.
I was implying that you had intent to do a burnout, and when you dumped the clutch, the disc exploded and destroyed several components. I should have been more clear, though.
As for vehicles with launch control, most of the vehicles that come equipped with it are far more expensive than even the most expensive factory Mustang. While the GT and other high performance variants will be built with heavier duty halfshafts and driveline components, the base models will sacrifice strength for cost and weight.
Did you swap your Y-pipe yet? That was the single most significant change I made. I did the air lid years ago. I don't know that it made a difference in performance, but it looks better. The other change I liked most was putting on a lightened flywheel. Between the two, it makes downshifting a bit different, but it has helped torque. I didn't really notice the difference in time to rev up, until a friend with a stock '00 Camaro SS (same specs as my WS6) was sitting beside me at a light, and it sounded like the Camaro engine had to work harder to spin up.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.