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Dogs Defecate In Alignment With Earth's Magnetic Field

Daniel_Stuckey writes "But for whatever its worth, all that spinning is far from arbitrary. What dog owners witness is a small and furry version of the aurora borealis and a link between species and environment that's as holistic and beautiful as a dog pooping can be. A team of Czech and German researchers found that dogs actually align themselves with the Earth's magnetic field when they poop. Proving at least that they're really devoted to their work, the researchers measured the direction of the body axis of 70 dogs from 37 breeds during 1,893 defecations and 5,582 urinations over the course of two years, and found that dogs "prefer to excrete with the body being aligned along the North-south axis under calm magnetic field conditions." They fittingly published their results [abstract] in the journal Frontiers in Zoology ."

222 comments

  1. wow by realilskater · · Score: 5, Funny

    sounds like a shitty job

    1. Re:wow by bob_super · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But they have secured next year's igNobel...

    2. Re:wow by plopez · · Score: 4, Insightful

      What do you think grad students are for?

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    3. Re:wow by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 0

      sounds like a shitty job

      You wouldn't believe to what lengths some people go to get their Ig Nobel.

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    4. Re:wow by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

      But they have secured next year's igNobel...

      I dunno, Ig may want to wipe their hands clean of this one.

    5. Re:wow by Tablizer · · Score: 0

      sounds like a shitty job

      But you gotta stick with it

    6. Re:wow by Enry · · Score: 4, Funny

      If they ignore it, there could be a very big mess for them to clean up. They can't let someone else scoop up this prize. These researchers have it in the bag.

    7. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

      this topic has gone to the dogs

    8. Re:wow by EdIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      Abuse and entertainment?

    9. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      sounds like a shitty job

      Funny, I was thinkin' the same thing.

    10. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proving at least that they really {know there shit}, the researchers measured the direction of the body axis of 70 dogs from 37 breeds during 1,893 defecations and 5,582 urinations over the course of two years, and found that dogs

    11. Re:wow by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Yes, but an ignobel in biology, medicine, or physics?

    12. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow. much poop.
      so delicious? barf.
      ate again. wasn't me.
      totally innocent.

    13. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spot on. This is definitely research that could not, or SHOULD not, be reproduced!

    14. Re:wow by AbsGeekNZ · · Score: 1

      Biophysics?

    15. Re:wow by RockDoctor · · Score: 1

      Inclusive OR or exclusive OR?

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  2. Maybe that explains it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Maybe that's why I prefer to use the north-south oriented bathroom in my house instead of the east-west one.

  3. I smell bullshit by jonfr · · Score: 2

    I smell bullshit moving around the news media at this moment.

    1. Re:I smell bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not bullshit, dog shit!

      Now, who run bartertown?

    2. Re:I smell bullshit by PRMan · · Score: 1

      I have 2 dogs. When they pee at the same time, they always do it at right angles to each other...

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    3. Re:I smell bullshit by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I have 2 dogs. When they pee at the same time, they always do it at right angles to each other...

      One of them obviously likes flux closure domains....

      I wonder if they did the study with multiple dogs peeing at the same time. This could be your opportunity to publish a follow-up PhD in Zoology!

    4. Re:I smell bullshit by lagomorpha2 · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Dogs are pack animals. What if this behavior developed as a way of making sure they were all at right angles to each other when they stopped to defecate as a way to watch for predators from all sides?

    5. Re:I smell bullshit by coinreturn · · Score: 1

      Dogs are pack animals. What if this behavior developed as a way of making sure they were all at right angles to each other when they stopped to defecate as a way to watch for predators from all sides?

      Pack animals do not all poop simultaneously.

    6. Re:I smell bullshit by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      According to article, the effect is stronger for defecation than for urination (http://www.frontiersinzoology.com/content/pdf/1742-9994-10-80.pdf). At least that's how the figures look to me. Furthermore, it seems likely that urination is more likely to be affected by things such as the location of uprights against which to piss than by the magnetic field. Urination is a social signal more than is defecation. So it seems plausible that the effect, if it's real, is more evident when fido takes a dump.

    7. Re:I smell bullshit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or so they didn't need to look each other in the eye while they crapped.

      Why would a wolf/dog, which is a predator, that is in a pack with other predators care about other predators attacking them while they crapped?

      And yes, I am not very proud of this comment so AC it is.

      Captcha: Serious

  4. dogs deficate not staring into the sun by goombah99 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suspect the dogs just don't like staring into the sun then they poo. I'd also speculate that since streets and walls tend to be aligned with the cardinal directions there's an overall alignment augmentation due to their surroundings. finally if they like to poo in a shadow of a tree then likely they may face back to the tree and thus have a bias to north or south alignments.

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    1. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by goombah99 · · Score: 4, Funny

      I wonder which way they poo in space and can anyone hear them scream?

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    2. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure if you've noticed, but the sun moves across the sky during the day.

    3. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by rednip · · Score: 2

      If that was true, then wouldn't it be more likely that they'd end up in a 'east-west' alignment(or something similar depending on latitude) during daylight hours , with the facing direction dependant on time of day than 'north-south' and random directions at night. If this turns out to be a repeatable study, it's one of the most shocking discoveries ever, if only because everyone who's ever waited on a dog to 'do it's business' has seen that twist every time. Of course it doesn't really answer 'why', but at least there seems to be a method to their madness.

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    4. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by reboot246 · · Score: 1

      Uh, dogs also poop at night. I don't the sun would be in their eyes at midnight.

    5. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by wonkey_monkey · · Score: 2

      But if it was to do with the sun, they'd poop randomly at night. The effect due to the sun during day poops would still be evident.

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    6. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 5, Informative

      I suspect the dogs just don't like staring into the sun then they poo. I'd also speculate that since streets and walls tend to be aligned with the cardinal directions there's an overall alignment augmentation due to their surroundings. finally if they like to poo in a shadow of a tree then likely they may face back to the tree and thus have a bias to north or south alignments.

      Wait. That means that during the early hours they should be facing West and during the late hours they should be facing East. At high noon it doesn't matter what they do. There's no sun-related time that would put bias on North/South axis alignment and the data shows a bias against East/West alignment.

      As for the assertion that the alignment of streets and walls are involved, I accidentally RTFA and found this curious line. "The magnetic consciousness was observed only in dogs off leash, in the middle of a field."

      Better yet, there's variation in behaviour that reflected magnetic fluctuations.

      So it turns out dogshit science isn't as easy as you thought.

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    7. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by roc97007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      My dog poops mostly facing east, but I believe that's because I always take him on walks at night along the same route, and there's a long straight easterly stretch close to the end of the route. Come to think of it, I don't remember ever seeing him poop facing north or south. Maybe he's broken.

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    8. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > since streets and walls tend to be aligned

      Wow, that's Republican-level anti-science stupidity. From the study:

      "The magnetic consciousness was observed only in dogs off leash, in the middle of a field."

      The dogs were not on streets no matter how many lies you spout. I wish you people would stop trying to ruin with this site with your anti-science rants and with your attempts to make *everything* about politics. It's tiresome how you people do that.

    9. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by istartedi · · Score: 2

      TFA mentioned that the study was conducted off-leash in a field. The owner has more influence than the magnetic field.

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    10. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      You mean, the frightful day-star, it can actually move?! How fast is it? Can I evade it?

    11. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet the data in this "study" was completely fabricated. It will not be replicated should another scientist attempt to verify it. Rarely does science attempt to verify a scientific claim. Scientists fabricate data all the time to justify their grants. So 20 years from now this shit study is going to be parroted as fact even though it was completely made up and nobody attempted to verify the claims.

    12. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by EdIII · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pooing in space has a well known direction:

      Everywhere

    13. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by MiniMike · · Score: 4, Funny

      Maybe this research was conducted by grad students. They wake up just before noon, and work for about an hour.

    14. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by ne0n · · Score: 1

      My dog always poops while looking at the nearest human, often turning in mid-poop if strangers approach. I hope the researchers didn't inadvertently introduce bias by positioning or showing themselves in a way that changes dog toilet habits.

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    15. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by physicsphairy · · Score: 5, Interesting

      According to the paper, studies were conducted in an open field and there was reportedly no bias based on whether data was recorded e.g., in the morning or in the afternoon. Due to the local weather conditions most of the time the skies were cloudy. When there chanced to be magnetic storms during the day then the dogs' North-South preference disappeared. They did a fairly good of controlling for other factors. The alignment of the magnetic field gave the best correlation.

    16. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by drnb · · Score: 1

      Uh, dogs also poop at night. I don't the sun would be in their eyes at midnight.

      You are assuming the researchers are watching at night.

    17. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by radarskiy · · Score: 1

      -1, uninsightful

      The article actually addresses time of day and disproves this.

    18. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Funny

      Pooing in space has a well known direction: Everywhere

      No, it seems to gravitate toward one's helmet. Dark particles called Murphons appear to be responsible.

    19. Re: dogs deficate not staring into the sun by danomac · · Score: 4, Funny

      Naw, wouldn't pooping in space be called a floater?

    20. Re: dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      How is this not +5 funny? Fucking zero-g feces!

    21. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Culture20 · · Score: 2

      You mean, the frightful day-star, it can actually move?! How fast is it? Can I evade it?

      ~370 km/s (relative to the cosmic microwave background) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun

      That's slower than the speed of light, but if you see it coming at your planet, you can't avoid it unless you have a good space program.

    22. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You raise some interesting points. However, the article does that they only observed the behavior when the dogs were allowed to do there business in an open field. So streets, wall, building, and even tree are probably non-factors.

      As for the sun, possibly a factor, they did not specify if they tested at different times of day.

    23. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1, Redundant

      That's slower than the speed of light...

      You don't say!

    24. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. Republicans love to lie about science, and in this case radarskiy has proven himself one of them. He and his kind hate science. Instead of recognizing the fact that the dogs were in a field, his kind instead lies and says they were on streets. Are we to believe that the scientists lied in writing or that radarskiy is one of the typical CONservative liars. His kind is disgusting. I really wish the government could do something about keeping CONservatives off of the Internet like they have with keeping them from getting research grants.

    25. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      I read the article too.

      the standard deviations were ~100 degrees and the lower variation between magnetic fluctuations is simply due to fewer samples since those days are fewer. the article is crazy pants.

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    26. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by goombah99 · · Score: 1

      the article is rubbish. there's a 100 degree standard deviation in the measurements. the slightest residual bias in the field, say an interesting tree, would completely overwhelm the measured averages with such whopper deviations.

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    27. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by aevan · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I'd love to refute this but... in um... maybe 7,000 walks of our two dogs, the clear majority of the time they face north. They face northish when we walk them on a north/south road. they face north when we let them crap on an east/west road. It's not always, but it's good majority. To the point that they'll muck around nibbling leaves and grass, but moment they do a 'spin in a circle and face north' you know what's coming next.

      The only time I've seen them go really randomish is when we're by a power station up the road. So maybe the story has a point.

    28. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone with a lot of experience with dogs, I believe you are right. That was actually my first thought on reading this so-called study, Dogs naturally shy from bright light.

    29. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ya, I wondered the same thing. Maybe there's a reason they were facing North and South. Maybe a road, sidewalk, building with people at it, or the observing researchers.

      Someone else pointed out the deviation of about 100 degrees, which appears to be about 50 degrees to either side of their explained result. Or basically most of the time, the were facing more or less in the general direction that the paper cited.

      Skimming down to Table 3 and Figure 3, (I don't believe I'm actually reading a paper about shit), it looks more like they could have spun the mighty wheel of dogshit randomness, and gotten about the same results.

    30. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that at high noon, the sun isn't directly overhead, it is in the South, if you are in the Northern Hemisphere (That is unless you live within a certain distance of the equator and are in the middle of summer). High noon is when it is at its highest point from the horizon.

    31. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by drkim · · Score: 2

      Pooing in space has a well known direction:

      Everywhere

      Yes.

      Yes it does:

      http://www.nbcnews.com/science/poop-space-revisited-apollo-10s-floating-turds-pop-44-years-1C9284102

    32. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by ebbe11 · · Score: 2

      I'd also speculate that since streets and walls tend to be aligned with the cardinal directions

      FYI: This is rarely the case in Germany and the Czech Republic where the study was performed.

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    33. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect the dogs just don't like staring into the sun then they poo. I'd also speculate that since streets and walls tend to be aligned with the cardinal directions there's an overall alignment augmentation due to their surroundings. finally if they like to poo in a shadow of a tree then likely they may face back to the tree and thus have a bias to north or south alignments.

      I suspect they observed dogs in their own countries and I can tell you that most european towns don't have streets aligned with the cardinal directions. Most streets aren't even straight.

    34. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by 3.5+stripes · · Score: 1

      The spinning around is exactly the same behavior they use to tamp down grass for a place to sleep.. I mean, do you really want blades of grass tickling your bum while you poop?

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    35. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Whilst I've not read the article:

      I assume the researchers recorded the time of the movements and I think they would've noticed if all north-south allignments happened during midday only (so your first and third points would be moot).

      Given the research was performed by Czech and German scientists I'll assume the research was conducted in Europe, where it's not really typical to align streets to the cardinal points... certainly not across an entire town in a grid system.

    36. Re: dogs deficate not staring into the sun by akozakie · · Score: 1

      I guess most mods find the idea of fucking zero-g feces repulsive, not funny. No wonder, I bet it's one of the rarest fetishes out there...

    37. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by FlopEJoe · · Score: 2

      The spinning around is exactly the same behavior they use to tamp down grass for a place to sleep.. I mean, do you really want blades of grass tickling your bum while you poop?

      Hmph... I pay extra for that.

    38. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by jittles · · Score: 1

      I suspect the dogs just don't like staring into the sun then they poo. I'd also speculate that since streets and walls tend to be aligned with the cardinal directions there's an overall alignment augmentation due to their surroundings. finally if they like to poo in a shadow of a tree then likely they may face back to the tree and thus have a bias to north or south alignments.

      My dog is very particular. She spends 5-10 minutes looking for the perfect place to go on walks. She will not go close to home at all. We often walk on trails and not roads, or on the beach. Now that I think about it, she does usually face north when she goes. I take her first thing in the morning, before the sun is high in the sky, and it is often obscured by trees / buildings. I also take her again in the late afternoon / early evening (depending on season) and she is predictable as can be. I'll try and pay more attention to it, but even when she goes on the E/W road in front of our place she is usually facing towards or away from the center of the street.

    39. Re: dogs deficate not staring into the sun by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      There's quite a precedent established!

      (Apollo 10)

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    40. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by umafuckit · · Score: 3, Insightful

      This is biology. A standard deviation of 100 degrees is not at all surprising for a study such as this and on its own is not enough to write off the result. The study may be BS for other reasons, but a large SD isn't one of them. Look at the first figure in the paper (http://www.frontiersinzoology.com/content/pdf/1742-9994-10-80.pdf) The clustering around N/S is pretty impressive for the 0% magnetic declination. What I don't understand, however, is why the relationship falls apart when magnetic declination is non-zero. I don't see why that should happen and it makes me think the effect is BS.

    41. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd also speculate that since streets and walls tend to be aligned with the cardinal directions there's an overall alignment augmentation due to their surroundings.

      That may hold true in the US but it doesn't in Europe. And since this is a Czech/German research, I'd wager the direction of the streets has nothing to do with it.

    42. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      No joke: back in high school a Long, Long Time Ago (tm), Mrs. Crary our English teacher said, "The sun is closer than many, many other stars."

      We were most of the time a respectful class -- but she was confused when the science students (I was one) just burst out laughing at that.

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    43. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      the article is rubbish. there's a 100 degree standard deviation in the measurements. the slightest residual bias in the field, say an interesting tree, would completely overwhelm the measured averages with such whopper deviations.

      That's incorrect. You're assuming that the effect of the magnetic field is small and noisy (hence the scatter in the data). But the data are gathered in the real world with real distractors. So imagine there really was a strong(ish) effect of magnetic field. Imagine further that dogs shitting angle is also biased by trees (as you say), people, other dogs, etc. The amalgamation of these two things would produce noisy data, as we see in the paper. I don't know if the effect is real, but your criticism is not valid.

    44. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by GodfatherofSoul · · Score: 2

      I've found that shaking my dog vigorously or lightly tapping his face with my index finger gets him to realign correctly.

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    45. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by umafuckit · · Score: 1

      I suspect the dogs just don't like staring into the sun then they poo.

      And I suspect you and the people who rated you as "insightful" didn't read the original research paper which discounts your suspicions.

    46. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are your reasons for this suspicion? And why should we believe you over those who have done serious research into the matter? Your arguments are laughable. You overestimate the brightness of the sun in Germany as well as the sensitivity of dog's eyes, you assume that dogs only poop at noon, your assumption about alignments of street is entirely incorrect anywhere outside major US cities (and certainly in all of Europe), in short, you're full of bovine excrement.

      It's a rather anthropomorphic reaction, just because we can't sense magnetic fields doesn't mean other creatures can't. Arctic foxes hit their target (under several feet of snow) 80% more often when they dive to it aligned along the earth's magnetic field rather than perpendicular to it. Why is it so hard to believe their domesticated cousins could sense it and have developed behaviours relating to it?

    47. Re: dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What are feces?

    48. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe he's broken.

      Then maybe you should have him.... fixed!

    49. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I suspect you have poo in your ears which is why no one can tell you anything...

    50. Re: dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Friggo · · Score: 1

      A fancier word for shit.

    51. Re: dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is an interesting discovery. I was reading one of the oriental manuscripts whose first composition is dated to around 300AD. In that, it is recommended that humans face south when they are defecating. I thought what crap, but it may have some basis after all.

    52. Re:dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My experience is complete randomness of direction. Ours nearly always goes in a field or empty lot, because that's how I trained him. Otherwise, he'll go in the "devil's strip" in the rare cases when he can't make it to a field. However, we have just the one dog, so maybe he's magnetically broken. We've had dogs before this one, but they were yard-crappers that didn't require walking, so I have no idea whether they preferred to face North, Mecca, or perhaps Redmond...

      - T

    53. Re: dogs deficate not staring into the sun by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A turd in space is obviously an Assteroid,

  5. Seriously? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    What the shit

  6. I do the same. by BitterOak · · Score: 4, Funny

    I do the same, and I have a special rotating toilet in my house for that purpose.

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    1. Re:I do the same. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The Earth's magnetic field rotates in your house?

    2. Re:I do the same. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wouldn't it have been easier to just install the toilet oriented the right way?

    3. Re:I do the same. by BitterOak · · Score: 1

      The magnetic north pole does move around.

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    4. Re:I do the same. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Unless your house is very close to it, I doubt it would make much of a difference. Wait, Santa, is that you?

    5. Re:I do the same. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Yeah, the rudder fell off

    6. Re:I do the same. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Speaking of toilet rotation,,,

      Has anyone checked this research in the southern hemisphere?

      Oh, and mates, hows the view from down under?

    7. Re:I do the same. by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      In Australia, your shoes are the safest place. The rest you can extrapolate...

    8. Re:I do the same. by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      The magnetic north pole does move around.

      Yes, but not very quickly.

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  7. Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by HornWumpus · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Alternative explanation. Dogs face away from the sun while crapping.

    Where is the raw data?

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    1. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 5, Funny

      Alternative explanation. Dogs face away from the sun while crapping.

      Where is the raw data?

      Annoyingly enough some of it is under the sole of my shoe.

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    2. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Alternative explanation. Dogs face away from the sun while crapping.

      Where is the raw data?

      Annoyingly enough some of it is under the sole of my shoe.

      May Dog have mercy on your sole...

    3. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 1

      You just won the Internet for the day sir. Excellent work!

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    4. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Tablizer · · Score: 0

      May Dog haev mercy on us dyslexic poople.
       

    5. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      All dogs go to heaven!

      And bowel before the gates.

    6. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Alternative explanation. Dogs face away from the sun while crapping.

      Where is the raw data?

      Something about this experiment smells...

    7. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by radarskiy · · Score: 0

      "Alternative explanation. Dogs face away from the sun while crapping. "

      -1, too lazy to read the article but not to lazy to manufacture failings of article

    8. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lucky you, when I read the submission I immediately reached for my compass and estimated my previous apartment direction relating to it. The soft, warm dog excrement I stepped on, or should I say stepped in, with my bear foot while coming out of my bedroom was indeed directed along the North-South axis.

    9. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good thing the study wasn' done for a sole purpose.

    10. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But the study also leaked it's info source!

    11. Re:Dogs don't like sun in their eyes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      tears in my eyes i tell you, tears in my eyes

  8. wtf ?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    wtf can i say ?

    im puzzled

  9. Don't want to be blinded... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe they just don't like the sun in their eyes.

  10. Correlation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    So which causes which?

  11. My dog is broken... by Bill_the_Engineer · · Score: 4, Funny

    He defecates in random directions.

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    1. Re:My dog is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hopefully not on the couch!

    2. Re:My dog is broken... by zlives · · Score: 5, Funny

      please have him subscribe to /. to get his shit straight...

    3. Re:My dog is broken... by knarfling · · Score: 1

      Have to agree. I have a few dogs, and i have never noticed that any of them line up in one direction or another. All of them have faced different directions when pooping. I must have a bunch of broken dogs.

      A more simple explanation, of course, is that there is an underground facility nearby that is wrecking havoc on the magnetic fields near my house.

      Only way to be sure is to ask my dogs to carry a compass and keep a poop journal. "Iggy, if you can't write in the journal which direction you were facing when you pooped, can you at least scratch an arrow in the grass? "

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    4. Re:My dog is broken... by tompaulco · · Score: 1

      So does mine. And so, I would conjecture, do all dogs.
      Why do we insist on speculating that animals have all of these magical abilities, like the ability to tell which way is north, ability to tell when an earthquake is coming, ability to tell when a person has cancer, etc. Humans are animals too, and yet we can't do any of these things (without tools). Frankly, I think the people who say animals can do these things are just full of crap.

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    5. Re:My dog is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Magnetoreception is a rather difference case considering it has been well demonstrated in many animals. The question of how present it is in mammals is still being investigated, but is not out of the question.

    6. Re:My dog is broken... by PsychoSlashDot · · Score: 1

      He defecates in random directions.

      Maybe it's been using Dual_EC_DRBG and the NSA hacked him?

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    7. Re:My dog is broken... by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Heh tell me about it. I was with my dogs when we had our last earthquake (7.2 on the Richter scale), and I was with them for most of the aftershocks. Absolutely zero "premonition", although they made it to the stairs a lot faster than I did. And of course for every little tremor after the big one they were nervous and jumpy as hell, but then again so was I. But yeah, babies are not suddenly dumber the second they are born (because these people also carry on about how SMART babies are in the uterus), and animals don't have magical abilities - only different abilities, some of which we don't completely understand.

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    8. Re:My dog is broken... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why do we insist on speculating that animals have all of these magical abilities, like the ability to tell which way is north, ability to tell when an earthquake is coming, ability to tell when a person has cancer, etc. Humans are animals too, and yet we can't do any of these things (without tools). Frankly, I think the people who say animals can do these things are just full of crap.

      Different species have different senses, and levels of senses. Your eyesight is much, much keener than a dog's, although not as good as an eagle's; your sense of smell is much better than the eagle's, but nowhere near as good as the dog's. And the way brains with very different structures process the information is different too. Is that really so difficult to believe?

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    9. Re:My dog is broken... by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      He may not be broken. Do you live at the magnetic North pole?

    10. Re:My dog is broken... by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 2

      Is that really so difficult to believe?

      And, of course, we need good empirical evidence to help determine what we should be willing to believe about these things. Hence, we need studies like this. Otherwise, all we're able to do is speculate about what the senses (ours and other animals) are capable of.

    11. Re:My dog is broken... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 2

      Any high power lines near your house? Ham radio?

      Plus, it only works off-leash in a field.

      I was thinking that this was a good reason to keep a dog with you if exploring uncharted territory though; not only can you use the excrement to find your way back, you can also take your bearings from it.

      I wonder if this extends to other animals as well... for animals excreting patties or drops, it wouldn't be too useful, but for those excreting logs it could be a useful addition to moss and sun tracking :)

    12. Re:My dog is broken... by Em+Adespoton · · Score: 1

      Frankly, I think the people who say animals can do these things are just full of crap.

      Unlike the dogs in the test, who have no problems voiding their bowels in the appropriate direction....

      Interestingly, those other things you say animals can do, humans can do too, given enough sensory deprivation of the senses that aren't used for that purpose. Next thing you're going to tell me is that your dog can talk and actually posted that comment on slashdot... after all, humans are animals too, and can magically do these things.

    13. Re:My dog is broken... by dbIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Why do we insist on speculating that animals have all of these magical abilities

      This is the opposite - trying to work out more about senses instead of putting it all down to magic.

      ability to tell when a person has cancer

      They smell different and dogs are better at smelling than us. That's all it is. Sensors can be used instead of dogs now that it has been worked out what the dogs are smelling.

      Frankly, I think the people who say animals can do these things are just full of crap.

      Finding stuff in the dark looks like magic too until echo location is described.

    14. Re:My dog is broken... by Nemyst · · Score: 0

      Sounds like he'd do a fine job as a Slashdot editor then.

    15. Re:My dog is broken... by camperdave · · Score: 1

      not only can you use the excrement to find your way back...

      Hansel? Is that you?

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    16. Re:My dog is broken... by Daniel+Dvorkin · · Score: 1

      Yes, exactly! There are a whole bunch of things "everybody knows" that just aren't true, and until we study these things we have no real way to know which is which.

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    17. Re:My dog is broken... by DMUTPeregrine · · Score: 1

      Actually, humans can tell which way is north/south without tools. We can see Haidinger's Brush, and thereby detect the polarization of the sky. That tells you which way the north/south axis is, even when it's cloudy enough that you can't see the sun directly.

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    18. Re:My dog is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, that should be "get his shit aligned" --- getting it straight out is a different study

    19. Re:My dog is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      SMART babies? Do you get an alert if they develop bad sectors?

    20. Re:My dog is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a big fan of the "preview" button, I see.

      Haidinger's Brush

    21. Re:My dog is broken... by jittles · · Score: 1

      Why do we insist on speculating that animals have all of these magical abilities, like the ability to tell which way is north, ability to tell when an earthquake is coming, ability to tell when a person has cancer, etc. Humans are animals too, and yet we can't do any of these things (without tools). Frankly, I think the people who say animals can do these things are just full of crap.

      Different species have different senses, and levels of senses. Your eyesight is much, much keener than a dog's, although not as good as an eagle's; your sense of smell is much better than the eagle's, but nowhere near as good as the dog's. And the way brains with very different structures process the information is different too. Is that really so difficult to believe?

      And further to that note: my parents had a dog that could tell when my brother (diabetic) had low blood sugar. They had three dogs at that time and one of them would bark in the middle of the night if he was low. He could somehow tell while sleeping in their bedroom that he was having trouble from across the house. My guess is that his scent changed and the dog was especially sensitive to it, but that is pure speculation on my part.

    22. Re:My dog is broken... by am+2k · · Score: 1

      And further to that note: my parents had a dog that could tell when my brother (diabetic) had low blood sugar. They had three dogs at that time and one of them would bark in the middle of the night if he was low. He could somehow tell while sleeping in their bedroom that he was having trouble from across the house. My guess is that his scent changed and the dog was especially sensitive to it, but that is pure speculation on my part.

      It's very likely that the blood sugar level has effects on the sweat consistency, and humans perspire a lot while sleeping. Considering that dogs are used to sniff out people under a few meters of snow in an open area with a lot of wind, it's very likely that this is an easy task for a dog, once it understands that the difference is important enough to bark about.

    23. Re:My dog is broken... by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      my parents had a dog that could tell when my brother (diabetic) had low blood sugar. They had three dogs at that time and one of them would bark in the middle of the night if he was low. He could somehow tell while sleeping in their bedroom that he was having trouble from across the house. My guess is that his scent changed and the dog was especially sensitive to it, but that is pure speculation on my part.

      Not being argumentative here -- was is the same dog that barked all of the time? Maybe one detected it, alerting another who then actually alerted you? (Doesn't matter, I know.) More to the point: dogs have accurate noses, but how fast does smell travel? (One, two, three, four.) I presume it was quiet at night; it could also have been sounds that the dogs were hearing (breathing, coughing, slight moaning, whatever.)

      No way to test and doesn't really matter; I'm just glad you had a dog that would alert you of the problem. I've heard stories of dogs "acting strangely" and somehow alert their owners before a heart attack or other critical events, so not unheard of. And we're a chemical machine; it makes sense that we'd give off odd smells if things are going badly.

      My dog tells me of the critical problem that he thinks his stomach is almost empty -- but I think he learned that from the cat. Not nearly as impressive as yours.

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    24. Re:My dog is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do we insist on speculating that animals have all of these magical abilities, like the ability to tell which way is north, ability to tell when an earthquake is coming, ability to tell when a person has cancer, etc. Humans are animals too, and yet we can't do any of these things (without tools). Frankly, I think the people who say animals can do these things are just full of crap.

      I can tell north from south. No tools, no magic, just the sun and the stars and my very own human senses (I lie, it only takes 1 human sense). To be frank too, I think you're a pretty sorry git if you call yourself a nerd and can't even do that. Maybe you should try reading a book sometime instead of online fora?

    25. Re:My dog is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My grandmother's miniature schnauzer detected her lung cancer.

      She would go a bit crazy on the couch next to her and paw at her side, and we'd laugh.

      Until a year later, when she was diagnosed with un-treatable cancer.

      BTW, she never smoked.

    26. Re:My dog is broken... by jittles · · Score: 1

      my parents had a dog that could tell when my brother (diabetic) had low blood sugar. They had three dogs at that time and one of them would bark in the middle of the night if he was low. He could somehow tell while sleeping in their bedroom that he was having trouble from across the house. My guess is that his scent changed and the dog was especially sensitive to it, but that is pure speculation on my part.

      Not being argumentative here -- was is the same dog that barked all of the time? Maybe one detected it, alerting another who then actually alerted you? (Doesn't matter, I know.) More to the point: dogs have accurate noses, but how fast does smell travel? (One, two, three, four.) I presume it was quiet at night; it could also have been sounds that the dogs were hearing (breathing, coughing, slight moaning, whatever.) No way to test and doesn't really matter; I'm just glad you had a dog that would alert you of the problem. I've heard stories of dogs "acting strangely" and somehow alert their owners before a heart attack or other critical events, so not unheard of. And we're a chemical machine; it makes sense that we'd give off odd smells if things are going badly. My dog tells me of the critical problem that he thinks his stomach is almost empty -- but I think he learned that from the cat. Not nearly as impressive as yours.

      Sorry I had meant to specify that it was the same dog every time. The other dogs did not seem to notice the difference, even though they slept closer to his room. The three dogs slept in different rooms, though this sometimes happened during the day when they were wandering around the house as well. After he alerted, if you opened the door to let that particular dog out, he would run to my brother's door and bark outside of it until someone went in to check on him. My current dog definitely does not do anything of that nature. She can definitely tell when I am not feeling well, though. Normally she is the neediest dog on the planet. When I am sick, she just lays at my feet and tries not to bother me. That is probably just her reading my body language, though.

    27. Re:My dog is broken... by redlemming · · Score: 1

      Why do we insist on speculating that animals have all of these magical abilities, like the ability to tell which way is north, ability to tell when an earthquake is coming, ability to tell when a person has cancer, etc? Humans are animals too, and yet we can't do any of these things (without tools).

      Nobody in science suggests that animals have magical abilities.

      They do, however, have many remarkable abilities that human beings lack. There is evidence to support all of the following:

      1. Some snakes, for example, can "see" heat (infra-red vision), allowing incredible resolution in targeting their attacks.
      2. Bats and several other types of animal can use sound waves to navigate in the dark (echolocation).
      3. Sharks, skates, and rays can sense electric fields (electroreception).
      4. Some animals that are capable of long distance migration are able to sense magnetic fields (including sharks).
      5. Some fish can communicate using electric fields (electrocommunication).
      6. Bees have an interesting ability to detect electric charge on flowers.
      7. Scorpions have vibration sensors tuned to the bands of vibration frequencies carried through sand by their usual prey.

      Incredible variation exists from one animal species to the next in the sense we human beings think of as touch, smell/taste, hearing, and vision, which can take very exotic forms in animals.

      In many cases, the sensory systems of animals greatly exceeds what human beings can do without the aid of tools (or even with the aid of tools!).

      None of this is magic.

      In the case of the sharks, for example, a specialization of the hair cell that works as an antenna has been evolved. Since the shark has lots of these antennas, it also has a sophisticated signal processing mechanism in the nervous system to allow the shark to resolve direction. Since all living creatures generate electric fields, this provides a guide for the shark in the final moments of its attack, permitting attack in murky waters or at night.

      There are many chemicals that are responsive to electromagnetic stimuli, and biological entities have evolved a variety to mechanisms to produce and use these chemicals. Human eyes, for example, have chemicals that respond to visual light (a form of electromagnetic radiation), allowing vision. Similarly, plants have chemicals that respond to light, this permits photosynthesis. The idea that a chemical can be used as part of a sensory receptor for an electric field is simply another application of this idea: not all that strange when you think about it.

      Magnetic sensing is still not well understood, but you can read about the current ideas on how this might work by doing a search on "magnetoception". Once you allow the ability to sense a magnetic field, you essentially have a tool for navigation relative to the Earth's magnetic field (a primitive version of which is the compass).

      Similarly, there are many chemical receptors that can be used to sense the presence of other chemicals. Often these involve complex organic molecules with a three dimensional shape that responds to the shape of other molecules on contact, much like a lock responds to a particular key. Many variations of this idea exist, allowing huge variation in the ability to sense chemicals (which human beings call "smell") from one creature to the next.

      The usual search engines will provide lots of information on this topic, or you might get a book on animal physiology.

      The full limits of the capabilities of animal sensory systems are something we're not even close to understanding at this point, and there's a lot of active research going on. Since most people know there's a lot we still don't understand, there's a lot of speculation concerning what these different sensory systems (and doubtless others we haven't discovered yet) might be capable of.

      Even within the human species, considerable variation exists from one person to the next with respect to the ability to use the standard human senses. Some of this is biological, some of this is a function of environment and habit.

    28. Re:My dog is broken... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Gretel! Where are you? I'll never understand why you decided to stay at the witch's house after we stuffed her in the oven -- all that food tasted like crap to me. There's more to life than Feng Shui....

  12. how many bits of information by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    are in a dog poop?

    If the deed is accurate to the nearest octant, that would be 3 bits for choice of one pole or 2 bits for choice of two poles.

    I wonder if some breeds have more bits in their poop than others.

  13. When I am lost in the forest by malvcr · · Score: 2

    mmm ...

    If I am in a tropical forest, and I can't see where is the sun because so many trees and every direction is "green", have no GPS neither a device with WIFI ... but have a dog.

    I am saved :-) ... just I need to give the dog some food and to wait.

  14. But they can't look up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big Al says so.

  15. I think my dog is broke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I think my dog is broke, can I return it and get a new one?

    I never knew this was a bug with my model until I just read this.
    I was assured that these models were bug-free!

    1. Re:I think my dog is broke by Dunbal · · Score: 4, Funny

      I usually use frontline to get rid of the bugs my dogs may have.

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    2. Re:I think my dog is broke by Endloser · · Score: 1

      Do you perform end to end testing before you demo your dog?

    3. Re: I think my dog is broke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      make sure it runs the latest firmware.

    4. Re:I think my dog is broke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Through put testing is sufficient enough to eliminate internal bugs!

    5. Re:I think my dog is broke by Dunbal · · Score: 1

      Throughput testing is actually quite relevant. A dog who won't eat is a sick dog...

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  16. soooo; by jafac · · Score: 4, Interesting

    they won't poop on a magnetized carpet?

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    1. Re:soooo; by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 4, Funny

      they won't poop on a magnetized carpet?

      Oscillate the field and you've at least got an exercise device.

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  17. "preferred" is the best they've got? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Curious how strong the correlation is...the fact they don't report any quantitative results in their summary isn't very promising.

  18. And cats still don't give a sh** by jslarve · · Score: 3, Insightful

    They really don't.

  19. Could it be that.. by Sla$hPot · · Score: 1

    The poo is magnetic and thus easier to get rid of if standing in the right direction because of the magnetic pull?
    If true. Standing in the right orientation would also prevent it from being pushed the wrong way up into the palate.

    1. Re:Could it be that.. by Tablizer · · Score: 0

      The poo is magnetic and thus...

      No wonder Bender is always grumpy.

    2. Re:Could it be that.. by akozakie · · Score: 1

      Magnetic poo? Sounds like BS, but the question you're trying to answer is actually the most interesting thing about this research. WHY? If the alignment is real, it's kind of cool, but makes you wonder - they have a magnetic sense and they use it to... poop straight?!? WTF?

      I guess it does have other uses, might explain some decisions dogs make in labyrinths etc... But why do they do THIS? What's the advantage? Weird.

      Or do we underestimate the importance of pooping ceremonies? Good material for a new religion...

    3. Re:Could it be that.. by Sla$hPot · · Score: 1

      I didn't know that BS was magnetic.
      How come you know all this shit!

  20. Patent Pending by organgtool · · Score: 2, Funny

    So stop dicking around already and put a dog in a Faraday cage to see if we can get a dog that doesn't poop!

    1. Re:Patent Pending by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Funny

      So stop dicking around already and put a dog in a Faraday cage to see if we can get a dog that doesn't poop!

      They tried that. It worked for about a week.

      Then, the dog exploded.

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    2. Re:Patent Pending by Savage-Rabbit · · Score: 3, Funny

      So stop dicking around already and put a dog in a Faraday cage to see if we can get a dog that doesn't poop!

      Faraday cage? If we put him in Schrödinger's box he'll poop and not poop simultaneously until you open the box and fix his state, or that of the poop.... or.... oh never mind.

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    3. Re:Patent Pending by quanminoan · · Score: 1

      A Faraday cage wouldn't stop static magnetic fields; you would need mu metal or superconducting materials to help decrease the magnetic field of earth.

    4. Re:Patent Pending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Turns out what they thought was a Faraday cage was in-fact a large microwave oven.

    5. Re:Patent Pending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      True fact: When I was younger I would go for up to 2 weeks without defecating. Doctors were worried I would die but nothing bad happened except the excruciatingly painful and long sessions on the toilet where I prayed for death.

    6. Re:Patent Pending by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      You're oversharing again.

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    7. Re:Patent Pending by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My dog eats his own poop, so you can't ever be sure if he did or not.

    8. Re:Patent Pending by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      If we put him in Schrodinger's box he'll poop and not poop simultaneously until you open the box and fix his state, or that of the poop...

      The state is not fixed until you step in it.

  21. Angling for an IgNobel? by kwerle · · Score: 1

    You have to wonder at stories like this - are the researchers actually angling for an IgNobel, or do they have some other motive?

  22. Worst. Compass. Ever. by Exsam · · Score: 2

    Of all time.

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  23. Accidntally opressed "Redundant" to the most insig by PaulBu · · Score: 0

    Mod parent up! Informative, instead

    Paul B.

  24. Magnets by suss · · Score: 2

    Does that mean that if i put a bunch of Molybdenum magnets under the sidewalk, i could get the dogs confused enough to stop pooping there?

    Or maybe the opposite effect...

    1. Re:Magnets by eyenot · · Score: 1

      Half of the dogs will begin pooping there with their nose on the concrete and their butt suspended in mid-air above them.

      The other half of the dogs will begin pooping there while standing up like human beings.

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  25. Slow news day? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Must be nothing about the NSA today.

  26. When Columbus lost his compass... by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    ...he said, "In Dog we trust".

  27. Is this TheOnion... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What about cats?

  28. Most Appropriate Journal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Should have been published in "Annals in Zoology" instead

    1. Re:Most Appropriate Journal by mcneely.mike · · Score: 0

      Should have been published in "Annals in Zoology" instead

      Shouldn't that be "Anals in Zoology"? :)

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  29. That's nothing by amightywind · · Score: 0

    That's nothing. When I defecate my bolus aligns with the magnetic field, arching and coiling...

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  30. good thing I hold patent by iggymanz · · Score: 1

    my aviation canicraposcope has three pooping dogs mounted at right angles, unlike gyroscopic horizon it needs no electrical power supply, only Purina and prune juice.

  31. Re:Accidntally opressed "Redundant" to the most in by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Informative? It's speculation.

  32. Furry Crayon by Tablizer · · Score: 3, Funny

    I put a magnet on an RC toy car and got my dog to draw pictures on the lawn

    1. Re:Furry Crayon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The only colors you have are brown and green.

  33. Where? by Maximus23 · · Score: 1

    Where do they come up with funding for studies like this? Can I get some of this money? I could use it for my puppy who may need some surgery...

  34. Dogs Shit North by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Instead of carrying a compass, just wait until your dog takes a dump.

  35. Fridge mags by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    I thought the kids' pics on the fridge looked crappy. Time to use masking tape instead.

  36. Next Study by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 1

    Putting magnets next to a dog's bed to see if he'll turn in fewer circles before lying down.

  37. I can verify it with my dog by Chewbacon · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I take pictures of our dog pooping and send them to my wife has pranks. "Hey, look at what the baby's doing. :dog shitting picture:" So, I went through them and sure enough she's either facing north or south in the backyard pinching a loaf. She maybe off by a 10 degrees, but never east or west with the same margin.

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  38. Can you write a grant application ? by drnb · · Score: 4, Funny

    I wonder how many scientists who happen to own a dog are now writing grant applications.

    1. Re:Can you write a grant application ? by grep+-v+'.*'+* · · Score: 1

      I wonder how many scientists who happen to own a dog are now writing grant applications.

      Been done before... (although it may be worth repeating just to make sure it's accurate.)

      I wonder how many scientists who happen to own a cat are now writing grant applications.

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  39. which way are they facing, N or S? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "the body being aligned along the North-south axis" - there are 2 ways to align the body that way. Which one do they prefer, if any?

  40. Yet another horrible summary by OneAhead · · Score: 5, Informative

    (A draft of) the actual research article is freely available here. Key points not mentioned in the summary:
    * the researchers concluded the magnetic field was responsible after observing the dogs lost their directional bias on days with geomagnetic storms, which is pretty cool IMHO
    * the researchers did explicitly discuss bias due to the direction of the sun, and the measures they took to eliminate it from their study.

    All in all, their findings are not to be taken as gospel (as always with original research), but if confirmed, they could spark a hunt for underlying biochemical mechanism.

    1. Re:Yet another horrible summary by radarskiy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I propose that when someone comments "They should have considered X" when the article does consider X those of us who read the article should be allowed to punch that commenter in the face. They won't understand any response more subtle than that,

    2. Re:Yet another horrible summary by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      but if confirmed, they could spark a hunt for underlying biochemical mechanism.

      Thanks, came to post the same. Some birds can "see" the magnetic field of earth to navigate. It doesn't seem too far fetched that some territorial creatures would develop an electromagnetic sense of direction, or develop emergent behaviors therefrom.

  41. Re:Accidntally opressed "Redundant" to the most in by radarskiy · · Score: 2

    Not only is it speculation, it is easily refuted speculation since time of day is considered in the actual article.

  42. Dogs Are Very Good Navigators by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Capricorn-filled pisces of shit aside, dogs could men-taurus all on astronomical navigation. Siruisly.

  43. I do it different by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Personally, I crap in line with the Earth's gravitational field. It tends to drop downwards.

  44. Great! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Now all of the worthwhile questions have been answered.

  45. First time predicted in mammals? by BringsApples · · Score: 5, Interesting

    But this was perhaps the first time that magnetic sensitivity was proven in dogs, and it was also the first time that a predictable behavioral reaction to the fluctuations in the magnetic field—magnetic storms, often as resulting from solar flares—was proven in a mammal.

    I might be off topic here, but...
    My house sits almost exactly diagonal to Earth's magnetic field, meaning that - unlike Solomon's Temple - only the corners of the house face North, East, South or West. I noticed that both of my kids wiggle around in their sleep in order to have their head face East. This happens in their beds, as well as on the floor. I told my wife what I thought, and we did some experiments:
    Beds:
    I moved both of the kids' beds to have the head face East, and both kids slept straight in their beds (they didn't wiggle out of that direction at all - we tested this for a few weeks. When I moved them back, the kids wiggled to have their heads face East again. So I moved the beds back to have the head face East and left them that way.

    Floor:
    On the weekend we would put a bunch of blankets down in the living room and pass out watching movies. The kids would always wiggle to have their heads facing East. I changed the blankets to have their heads facing West, but the kids would wiggle around to have their heads facing East.

    I don't really find that either my wife or I wiggle around to face a certain direction, but I do find it easier to fall asleep if I move my couch to have my head facing East. Not sure if anyone else has ever had a similar experience.

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    1. Re:First time predicted in mammals? by VortexCortex · · Score: 1

      I always urinate in the direction of my compost pile.

  46. Hmm, they poo opposite to the direction they wish by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    to accelerate?

  47. Ok, who wants to be the one to open the box? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It aint going to be me, no matter what the quantum states are.

  48. Magnets by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

    So, does this mean I can put a magnet on a dog's collar and it will give him constipation?

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  49. This makes me happy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I've been feeling pretty down about my crappy job all day long... and then I read about this really crappy job.

    I feel a hell of a lot better now.

  50. K9 Feng shui by real+gumby · · Score: 1

    Now to add to the "If dogs ran the world" internet meme [*], if dogs could do architecture, the orientation of the bathroom would be decided first, before anything else.

    (holy, err, shit: I looked up "feng shui bathroom" and not only do those clowns talk about bathrooms, the first hit says "Bathrooms do tend to leak energy, as well as easily accumulate lower vibrations". Appropriately, that load of, well, shit, comes from "about.com").

    [*] OK OK I know that the Internet is really made of cats but before the feline coup d'etat the dogs had staked out their claim for the internet ur-meme.

  51. statistically implausible by mckwant · · Score: 1

    70 dogs * 730 days = 51,100 dog-days.

    Now, let's morph all the dogs into one dog's lifespan.

    51,100 days / 5,582 urinations = 9.15 days / urination
    51,100 days / 1,893 defecations = 27 days / defecation

    I'll allow the [grad assistant | poor bastard] actually doing the research to miss a few, but NFW.

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    1. Re:statistically implausible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have no imagination.

      Those numbers comport with a couple of grad students hanging out at a park on the weekends, sitting on a bench with a notebook and a pen.

    2. Re:statistically implausible by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Also, the better criticism (if you read the real paper) is that this result was "discovered" after the fact. They were testing some other hypothesis, found no correlation, then happened upon the correlation with the geomagnetic field.

      The odds of finding any correlation by chance when you seek one out to fit your data set is probably pretty high. Being intelligent and imaginative, testing odd correlations like this, actually makes finding something by chance more likely. The odds of correlating with the geomagnetic field specifically may be small, but it's an illusory relationship. The odds of some person winning the lottery are minuscule, but somebody wins eventually.

  52. Cows graze along a north-south axis by Beeftopia · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Of Cows and Power Lines
    Cattle seem to have an internal compass--one that's messed up by power lines
    Posted 1 Jul 2009 | 4:00 GMT
    IEEE Spectrum

    A team of researchers from Germany and the Czech Republic has already discovered that, all factors being equal, cattle and two species of deer tend to align themselves along a north-south axis using some innate magnetic sense, and that this preferred alignment is disturbed when they graze under high-voltage power lines.

    http://spectrum.ieee.org/energy/the-smarter-grid/of-cows-and-power-lines

  53. Slashdot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    News for Turds; Shit that Smatters.

  54. This explains everything by Zhe+Mappel · · Score: 1

    My pooch was always prone to dingleberries. Too much magnetic alignment, obviously.

  55. Anecdotally by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My dog poops East/West. Seriously - I really know this.

  56. More reasearch is needed... by otaku244 · · Score: 1

    Until additional studies pick up where this one left off, I think it's hard to call these findings solid evidence.

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  57. Uhh, no by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    I have ten years of evidence of my Siberian husky crapping the back yard - I also have about five years of my catahoula crapping too.

    They don't align - In fact, when the Husky is crapping facing the back fence, the catahoula has never aligned itself either assward or noseward when I've been watching..

    I can provide video of both of them crapping in big piles in all directions. It's obvious by the findings that the people observing behavior don't have dogs or walk them. If the decide to differ, I'll hand them a couple of leashes, some dog crap bags and an actual compass. Walk my dogs and see that your study is without fact.

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  58. Rotate too by ShoulderOfOrion · · Score: 1

    My dogs also spin in circles when they poop, just like a compass. Must be true.

  59. Direction of wind? by Maavin · · Score: 1

    Maybe they align with the direction of wind, not to get their sense of smell distracted by their own feces?

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  60. Original article by umafuckit · · Score: 1

    The original article (free to read): http://www.frontiersinzoology.com/content/10/1/80/abstract

  61. Bee colony collapse disorder by LongearedBat · · Score: 2

    Could perhaps Bee colony collapse disorder be caused by the sudden increase of wireless technology that's been built since the early 2000's? Perhaps the bees simply can't navigate their way back to the apiary because their internal compasses are scrambled? That might explain why we haven't found any toxins or diseases that cause it.

  62. No Shit? Really? by rocket+rancher · · Score: 1

    :)

  63. So do I. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You insensitive clod ! and it creates all sorts of practical problems.

  64. Re: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What happens in the Southern hemisphere?

  65. ...in your general direction by DriveDog · · Score: 1

    So maybe it doesn't always roll downhill, maybe it rolls "down" south, having been pushed that direction. What direction would, say, a husky go when taken to the north pole (magnetic or spin-axis)?

  66. Pro dog trainer here by Reziac · · Score: 1

    ...with over 40 years and +2500 dogs worth of experience. I usually have ~50 dogs in my kennel, and I do all my own kennel work. I've watched more dogs shit and scooped more poop than these researchers could ever hope to.

    And I think they're losing sight of the sheer force of habit. About half of all dogs will always crap in the same spot, facing the same direction, and which direction depends mostly on their surroundings. Frex, most crap facing 'forward' (toward the door of their kennel, or if in a yard, toward the house), so naturally the daily act winds up aligned one way. Rotate the kennel 90 degrees and you'll rotate the direction the crapping dogs face with it.

    The other half crap wherever they stop moving, which may be random or may be their notion of a convenient spot, but as a rule will still be facing toward their idea of what's public space'.

    It's probably an aspect of the instinct to protect one's blind side, especially when vulnerable. But magnetic fields? They should try rotating their kennel. Seriously.

    [My current kennel is a big square. So I get dogs facing four different directions to crap. Plus those that just go wherever the hell they stop moving.]

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  67. Not My Dog by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    My dog is all into astrology; she poops when and where her horoscope tells her to.

  68. omg I think it's true! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    unless it's the unlevel ground making it easier for them one way over the other, I DO see them shit facing South!

  69. Umm... no by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Have 2 dogs, sorry, this is utter crap. Dogs poop however they happen to be walking. Some of the weird ones will spin around a bit. It's more about location, not direction to dogs. It's like saying all people want their furniture arranged so the Chi flows correctly... it may be true for a few, but generally, they don't give a flying poop.

  70. Obligatory MAD Magazine interjection by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I suspect a GLITCH* in their research.

    * a MAD Magazine sound effect word representing stepping in dog feces, from a late 1970's issue with sound effect stickers also having among others, THORT, SPLITCH, POIT, and SPLABADAP.

  71. North Pole by BlazingATrail · · Score: 1

    Put the dog with Santa at the North Pole and he'll have a perpetual engine.

  72. Dogs defecate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe they just don't want the sun in their eyes....

  73. Gotta be pseudoscience by MXB2001 · · Score: 0

    First cows, now dogs? What's next...

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