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Trump Calls For Russia To Cyber-Invade the United States To Find Clinton's 'Missing' Emails (gawker.com)
Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump publicly called on the Russian hackers allegedly responsible for the recent leak of DNC emails to launch another cyber-attack on the United States, this time to hack emails from Hillary Clinton's tenure as secretary of State, according to reporters who attended the press conference Wednesday. (Alternate source: NYTimes, Quartz, and MotherJones) "Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing," Trump said. "I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press."
Clinton came under investigation for her use of a personal email address while serving as secretary of state. After turning over to the FBI all correspondence about government business during her years in the State Department, Clinton revealed at a press conference last year that she had deleted about half of her emails that pertained to personal matters, like her daughter's wedding. Attorney General Loretta Lynch ultimately decided not to pursue criminal charges against Clinton. Update: Here's a video of Trump saying that.
Clinton came under investigation for her use of a personal email address while serving as secretary of state. After turning over to the FBI all correspondence about government business during her years in the State Department, Clinton revealed at a press conference last year that she had deleted about half of her emails that pertained to personal matters, like her daughter's wedding. Attorney General Loretta Lynch ultimately decided not to pursue criminal charges against Clinton. Update: Here's a video of Trump saying that.
person to ever be a candiate for the US presidency now prominently hits the Slashdot front page. Slashdot - how low can you go ?
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
It's getting better all the time.
(It can't get no worse)
Frist?
I agree with Trump. Besides, if Hillary has nothing to hide, she has no reason not to support this.
should hacked also to obtain trump irs statements
Headline doesn't match the quote.
decent PR move, lol
should he actually win however, I think the IC is goig to be trying to put kid gloves on him for good reason. Man's MADE of leaks
Drumpf has run most of his campaign by going from one conspiracy to another. He's convinced that there is something astronomically nefarious in those missing emails, and he knows from all the people shouting for Hillary's lynching at the GOP convention that this is a really popular conspiracy with this supporters. The complete and total absence of factual support for this conspiracy is of no consequence to him.
Damn_registrars has no butt-hole. Damn_registrars has no use for a butt-hole.
It sure would be fun.
Asking foreing nations to attack US... what a douche
How else are we going to find out what people in our government are doing? Wait for the press to tell us?
If you want the press to uncover -- instead of helping cover up -- what the government is doing, you should support Trump for President. The press will actually investigate and report on a Trump Administration.
I am not in any way a Trump supporter but is it not more likely that he was making a joke trying to tie the DNC email issue with the Clinton personal email server issue?
The hero we both need and deserve.
It's far more likely that the DNC hack was done by some Bernie supporters. They've known for a long time that the DNC was trying to screw Bernie and they needed the proof.
Seriously, does this power-crazed pig have to be elected before we can IMPEACH him?
Last I checked, treason was still a thing.
"Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing" probably refers to the data they have already stolen, after all the Clintons (or their team) did a good enough job of deleting them that the FBI couldnt find them.
So, Trump is speculating (hoping?) that Russia hacked and exfiltrated the emails before that happened. Hes not asking for a new hack, just appealing to known criminals to continue to use the fruits of their crimes to continue to impinge the Clinton presidential campaign. Nothing to see here, Trump has been and always will be a bully eager to use any means necessary to win.
This is just Trump using his standard campaign tactic, if your opponent is getting a good media cycle (ie the DNC generating good speeches and endorsements) then say something crazy and outrageous to take all the media attention.
I stole this Sig
If the federal judges who have asked her to hand them over can't get Hillary to do it, and the Russians are willing to do it for free ...
It was not only obviously a joke, but he suggested the hack could also be China or some other private hacker.
He also said that Russia and China have no respect for the United States.
Finally, fuck any link to Gawker. Slashdot deserves much better than this, even if such a ridiculous leading headline will falsely stoke the Hillary supporters without any further context. I mean, what's next? "Hillary shit herself regularly..." (...at one year old)?
The GOP needs to remove Trump as candidate for POTUS; he just demonstrated that he's in no way, shape, or form suitable to be POTUS, he in fact is a TRAITOR to this country, inviting foreign powers to cyber-attack us -- or at the very, very least, inviting foreign CRIMINALS to cyber-attack a major U.S. political party. This is not the mindset or behavior of someone who is qualified or suited to be President of the United States, or of any other country! Even the most rabid, least intelligent Trump supporters have to come to a Full Stop on this one, he is inviting Russians to come screw with our political system!
What's next, Trump? You going to say you'll mandate learning to speak, read, and write Mandarin in public schools?
Are YOU using the TOOL, or is the TOOL using YOU? Think about it!
How is what Hillary did so much different from Edward Snowden? Look how he was persecuted for releasing information with good intent.
According to most reports, the way I interpret Hillary's actions is that she intentionally and deliberately violated any and all government clearance levels and vows to protect government information.
imho she should be in jail, not still roaming the streets, and certainly not EVER trusted with national secrets ever again.
he could've just as easily meant them searching through what they've already taken off her personal 'email address'
Yes. Not content to jump the shark, The Donald (otherwise known as the Insane Clown and his Posse) now insists on being jumped by a shark instead, because, in Soviet Russia, shark jumps you.
Where are we going and why are we in a handbasket?
The email server is gone. If they ALREADY hacked it, they should release the emails. What's wrong with this?
Whatever one's political creed, and irregardless of what one may think of Clinton and/or the Democrats, Trump's calling on an enemy of the United States to break into the official correspondence of the Secretary of State is an act of treason. He should be brought up on charges. Trump himself is an enemy of the state he feigns allegiance to.
I can't decide who's stupider: A leftist on here thinking that Trump was serious when he said that or a leftist on here thinking that Hillary was serious when she said she was opposed to TPP (or is she for it again? I can't keep up with her).
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
It was pretty clear from watching the news conference that he was joking about this, to making a point. You only make yourselves look foolish by pushing a weak narrative that it was a sincere public request for Russia to attack us.
When New York Times published illegally-obtained materials embarrassing a Republican, they got a Pulitzer Prize — because "the people deserve to know" all there is to know about their leaders.
Putin — or whoever really is behind the DNC leaks — certainly deserves a similar reward, does he not?
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
break US law by uttering such a statement ?
Religous speak to God. Insane are spoken to by God. When all shut up, one can finally hear Shostakovich in peace
That's high treason. He should be shot for that.
Is it just me, or does this smack of the same kind of childish lack of understanding of issues, brash posturing of someone who's never been in a fight, and willingness to make totally irresponsible statements that George W. Bush displayed, when he called on terrorists and insurgent groups to "Bring it on!" when trying to tout the prowess of our US military?
"I call on England to spy on our citizens and see what you come up with. I think the NSA will reward you for your efforts" - Last two Presidents
What he's really asking is if Russia would be so kind as to pull a copy from their backups.
They all go into the absurd pile.
Fortunately, thanks to America's system of checks and balances, the presidency does have the authority/power to dictate/implement almost anything that Trump states. He literally couldn't if he actually wanted to. But I think he knows this and is just pandering to idiots, telling them what they want to hear.
Hillary does the same thing, but she isn't nearly as blatant.
Trump's bombastic absurdity is just what we need to keep our adversaries on their toes and in check. Of course, there is a not insignificant risk of war that goes along with that.
So what Mr. Trump is essentially saying is that he's more naturally a friend and ally of Russians than of his political opposition?
It is VERY sick and VERY telling that Mr. Trump thinks of his own countrymen as "the enemy" and is willing to call in his foreign friends to attack them for his political gain.
Some patriot!
what rubbish : an "invitation"?
Trump invites Arabs to fly airplanes into the Wells Fargo Convention Center on Thursday night!
That'll show 'em!
If telephones are outlawed, then only outlaws will have telephones.
But you'll still have to call him Mister President.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Called it. Trump is a Russian sleeper agent and "Republican anti-Clinton derangement syndrome" makes the entire party this century's useful idiots.
This site has really gone downhill.
Trump didn't invite a cyber-invasion of the US, he invited them to find Hillary Clinton's deleted personal messages...
Please don't mis your narritives. Those are either property of the US or they're private. Pick one.
Bernie or bust!
If not yet, when?
"Calls for cyber invasion?" Really editors? This is the kind of hyperbole we used to make fun of trash sited for.
This kind of egregious propaganda is beneath this website. Stop insulting the intelligence of your audience and give up on this click baiting crap.
All you're doing is driving more cynical geeks over to Trump
If Trump won't release his taxes, maybe Russia will hack the IRS and deliver us his tax returns. Oh, wait, they're on his side so they'll simply use them for blackmailing him. Sounds like a great way to make America great again to me.
The GOP presidential candidate is encouraging a hostile foreign power to intrude into US government data systems in the hopes of revealing evidence Clinton may have acted contrary to the interests of the United States. Have I got this right?
Slashdot - how low can you go ?
Limbo Lower Now!
Your hyperbole is way out this or any side of reality!
Get a grip or just unplug the server and chill for a few.
Ha
Release the 30K emails they already hacked... - Correct interpretation
U mad? Yes. U Mad.
Apparently /. editors have forgotten that Gawker got its ass handed to itself in court for horrible journalistic practices (Hogan vs Gawker Media.)
Quit giving that fucking site traffic and let it DIE.
Still waiting on Serviscope_minor to wake up to fucking reality and realize that Jessica Price isn't going to fuck him.
He does have a point.
About the ONLY way we will ever recover those emails that Hillary and her team decided to wipe from her server is if some hacker type managed to infiltrate her server while they still existed and archived them. ( Russian, Chinese, American, who cares where they live )
At this point it's obvious that justice is right out of the question considering both the FBI and the Attorney General have decided to ignore the fact that Her Highness handled classified material in a negligent manner. ( Yes it's a crime. No you don't need to have intent. Folks are in jail today for doing the exact same thing. )
So in the absence of any sort of real justice ( which just doesn't happen if your last name is Clinton ) we have to resort to methods that will probably be frowned upon by those who pretend to be Champions of Justice. Seriously, when the rich and powerful OWN the whole system, relying upon our "justice" system is laughable.
Can you imagine the fallout if some hacker actually DID decide to post the entire archive ? How f*cking sad is it that we have to hope for such a thing if we're ever to learn the full truth about what Hillary decided she didn't want part of official records ?
It would make for the greatest election drama in the history of our nation :D
Personally I'm still hoping he steps into his fridge and we drop a nuke on it.
Can someone please tell me which one of these candidates is the lesser evil?
“They probably have them. I’d like to have them released. It gives me no pause, if they have them, they have them,” Trump added later when asked if his comments were inappropriate. “If Russia or China or any other country has those emails, I mean, to be honest with you, I’d love to see them.”
- Wash Post.
The real estate mogul sought to distance himself from allegations that the Russian government hacked into the Democratic National Committee to benefit his campaign, which Clinton’s campaign manager suggested earlier this week.
“It is so farfetched. It’s so ridiculous. Honestly, I wish I had that power. I’d love to have that power, but Russia has no respect for our country,” Trump said.
I'd say Trump was at least half-serious. He said in no uncertain terms that he'd have no problem if Russia stepped in to do some dirty work on his behalf.
Of course, if the Russians actually deliver, Trump would owe Putin a favor. Ukraine, maybe? Disband NATO?
Dumb not-so-funny, off-the-cuff comments may be fine in reality TV, but they have consequences in international politics. An ex-KGB like Putin could make a predictable narcissist like Trump dance on a string. I'm talkin Godfather II, waking up next to a dead prostitute.
Take it easy, Charlie, I've got an Angle...
If the US government fails to care about blatant disregard of law because...it's a Clinton and she's a Democrat...then perhaps it's legitimate to appeal to other state-level actors to help throw aside the veil of secrecy?
At what point are the people of the US entitled to recognize that their government directly serves the interests of a small coterie of oligarchs, and try to work around it?
Again, let's recall:
"I don't have a private email server"
"It was only private and family correspondence"
"Well nothing secret went on that server"
"Nothing I knew was secret was on that server"
"Nothing ACTUALLY MARKED SECRET was on that server"
and then, after at least a week of denials, a carefully vetted pile of emails was 'given' to the FBI/DOJ and there were STILL secret things found in the correspondence.
And yet, the response from half the electorate and most of the major news organizations is "What me worry?" and "Vast Right Wing Conspiracy*"
*now including Red Scare 2016(tm)
-Styopa
What's low about this is that the primary source they cite is Gawker.
Trump blasts Obama, hopes Russia can find 'missing' Clinton emails
The many problems with Donald Trump's call for Russia to spy on Hillary Clinton
Trump Says He Hopes Russia Can Access Clinton's Emails
Trump Asks Russia to find Clinton's missing emails in Doral [Florida] Appearance
"By the way, they hacked -- they probably have her 33,000 e-mails. I hope they do. They probably have her 33,000 e-mails that she lost and deleted because you'd see some beauties there. So let's see."
So he's encouraging them to go back in time to hack her server? Ridiculous.
For anyone that actually cares about the truth, full transcript is here: https://www.washingtonpost.com...
You know he's mess'n with you, right?
Hillary's email server is probably still in FBI custody in pieces, so for Russia to hack it they would actually have to break into the FBI headquarters...
I guess he doesn't realize this could just as easily be used against him?
If Trump had a say he would have to be executed, by his own standards. Oh wait, Trump and standards?
Both major parties are unfixable at this point. Right leaning voters should vote for Gary Johnson (Libertarian Party) and left leaning voters for Jill Stein (Green Party). At the very least, we need to all demand that they be included in the debates.
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Trump, despite all the mud being thrown this way, has done very little concrete evil in comparison.
A $7.8 million contract for Trump Plaza was awarded to S&A Concrete, owned by Anthony "Fat Tony" Salerno. Trump World Tower was built with concrete from Quadrozzi Concrete Company, associated with the Lucchese crime family.
I encourage everyone to actually go watch the context of what he said. I'm a Gary voter BTW, if that matters.
You mean Hillary? Because Trump, despite all the mud being thrown this way, has done very little concrete evil in comparison.
Trump has never held an elective or appointive office in his entire life.
But there is damn little reason to believe that he is capable of playing by the rules or accepting responsibility for anything that goes wrong.
The legal actions provide clues to the leadership style the billionaire businessman would bring to bear as commander in chief. He sometimes responds to even small disputes with overwhelming legal force. He doesn't hesitate to deploy his wealth and legal firepower against adversaries with limited resources, such as homeowners. He sometimes refuses to pay real estate brokers, lawyers and other vendors.
As he campaigns, Trump often touts his skills as a negotiator. The analysis shows that lawsuits are one of his primary negotiating tools. He turns to litigation to distance himself from failing projects that relied on the Trump brand to secure investments. As USA TODAY previously reported, he also uses the legal system to haggle over his property tax bills. His companies have been involved in more than 100 tax disputes, and the New York State Department of Finance has obtained liens on Trump properties for unpaid tax bills at least three dozen times. Exclusive: Trump's 3,500 lawsuits unprecedented for a presidential nominee
I call the news conference. He didn't call for them to cyber invade anyone. He said that blaming the DNC hack on Russia was ridiculous without concrete evidence. He did say that he would like Russia to hack and release the 30,000 emails of clintons that were "lost"
Let me first be very clear here - when the Clinton's are smiling with Trump at Trump's first wedding, I don't trust ANY of these bastards. NOT ONE. Trump and Clinton are statists with different agendas, but statists nonetheless. Madam Clinton is, despite her horrendous dishonesty, is a far more eloquent and disciplined speaker with far fewer gaffes.
That said, the headline implies that Trump approves of the hacking that Russia allegedly accomplished, when the obvious context from the video is that he doesn't approve of any of it and is talking sarcastically about Madam Clinton's 30k+ still-missing e-mails being recovered by Russia. This goes precisely and correctly to the point about the current executive branch's lackadaisical enforcement of security of the e-mail within established government structures where I or anyone else would be permanently disqualified from any secret clearance had I engaged in such egregiously negligent or wilful behavior. He implies as much only a few seconds later in his speech, and he is definitely not joking then, but using the hyperbole (i.e. "joke") as a vehicle to establish a critical point because he feels fed up with this nonsense. I really believe that this is serious to him as well because the same weapons that were used against his opponent can definitely be used against him at any time.
So please, don't put words in my mouth the way the Clinton-oriented press is doing to Trump here. That the message should have been delivered differently (in a much more serious way) is obvious and would've prevented this ridiculous debate and the opportunity for mudslingers like Gawker to even attempt such a false characterization of the statement itself. But I never said I approved of how he did it nor implied it, nor anything else Trump or Clinton says or does.
BRIAN NAYLOR, BYLINE: When he appeared before the editorial board of The Washington Post this week, Donald Trump was asked to explain what he wanted to do with the nation's libel laws. Trump told the Post, which put a tape of the meeting online, that if a paper gets story wrong, they should put out a retraction.
(SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING)
DONALD TRUMP: They should at least try to get it right. And if they don't do a retraction, they should, you know, have a form of a trial. I don't want to impede free press, by the way. That's - the last thing I would want to do is that.
NAYLOR: Trump went on to say all he wants is fairness.
You mean Hillary? Because Trump, despite all the mud being thrown this way, has done very little concrete evil in comparison.
Don't disagree with you, but there's still a stink in the air:
* http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
He didn't invite them to "Cyber invade".
Clinton jokes constantly about hiding her emails and Obama has made numerous jokes among them mocking the death of Scalia and threatening Drone strikes on the Jonas Brothers. Are we suddenly going to get angry about this too?
As an IT person,what I find vile is that whomever set Hillary's email server up did just a -server-.
With Exchange, one needs multiple servers to do the job right:
1: An incoming hardened gateway with virus scanning rules.
2: An incoming Exchange server.
3: Two internal servers to replicate the mailboxes.
4: An outgoing server.
5: An appliance for outgoing mail.
6: A dedicated server for OWA.
7: A dedicated server for POP/IMAP.
8: An internal server for protected SMTP relaying if needed.
9: RODC for DMC machines.
10: DC for internal stuff.
11: Backup DC.
12: Veeam server.
On the backend, these should be on some type of cluster (VMWare, Hyper-V), with n+1 hosts and affinity rules. The SAN needs to have multiple paths (MPIO, LAGs.)
I just find it appaling that someone of this nature was just using a single machine, when for someone of her stature, it needs a complete cluster.
Instead, he's wrong about everything.
HBI's Law: Frequency of calling others Nazis is directly correlated with the likelihood of the accuser being Communist.
Where is that exact sentence located? Or is it maybe exaggerated? I know, I know, I must be new. Well also Anon.
Again, Trump demonstrates here his insanely high ability as a first-rate troll. If there was a meter for such things, his rating would be off the scale.
Maybe a new department should be created under his leadership? The DOT moniker being taken, but somehow a Department of Trolling should be created with him at the helm... Maybe under Cyberwarfare?
Is retarded. Of course none of you will listen to the press conference to find out it's a sarcastic joke, because slashdot is in the tank for the National Social Democrat American Party.
Asking a foreign country to invade your own is nothing short of treason.
Cyber invasion is not much different.
BRIAN NAYLOR, BYLINE: When he appeared before the editorial board of The Washington Post this week, Donald Trump was asked to explain what he wanted to do with the nation's libel laws. Trump told the Post, which put a tape of the meeting online, that if a paper gets story wrong, they should put out a retraction.
SOUNDBITE OF ARCHIVED RECORDING
DONALD TRUMP: They should at least try to get it right. And if they don't do a retraction, they should, you know, have a form of a trial. I don't want to impede free press, by the way. That's - the last thing I would want to do is that.
NAYLOR: Trump went on to say all he wants is fairness.
He's not wrong :)
German's are the largest ethnic group in the United States. What are you implying?
Bring back the old version of slashdot.
Since Trump has been officially nominated, popular support for him on Slashdot has skyrocketed, even among individuals who I previously considered to be relatively sane and somewhat intelligent. Seems that all the conservatives have said to themselves "Well Trump is our party's candidate now, like or not, so I guess we better throw all our support behind this dangerous manchild."
I'm sure most of them know that he's by far the more dangerous choice compared to Republican Satan and the responsible, adult thing to do would be to write in a candidate/vote 3rd party and hope for the best or settle for their protest vote at worst, but they advocate for Trump, for the glory of The Party.
"When information is power, privacy is freedom" - Jah-Wren Ryel
Listening to his press conference live, I got the impression that, IF Russia or China have those emails, THEN they should release them. Where would they find the 33k missing emails today anyway?!! Hillary wiped the server, FBI took possession, it's no longer online, etc etc. My take was that he believes the server was hacked over the four years it was active, and that those actors have the emails. If that's true, he encouraged them to release those too.
DONALD TRUMP: They should at least try to get it right. And if they don't do a retraction, they should, you know, have a form of a trial. I don't want to impede free press, by the way. That's - the last thing I would want to do is that.
We already have laws covering this. It's called libel. Go forth and sue, your Trumpness! Best of luck with that
"You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
So you think destabilization of international affairs, particularly against the larger more powerful competitor nations, along with unnerving long-standing and even newer allies is somehow beneficial?
When you grow some hair on your pussy, you'll realize that skulking around in fear of offending your adversaries is not an effective means of commanding respect. Sometimes it is necessary to do the needful.
Mod you up! I forgot about that.
...this, despite the fact that the hack has already occurred.
And if her emails only contain yoga appointments a wedding plans, the who gives a fuck?
Calling for whoever has them to release them is nothing more than a call to reveal the Truth about her 30k emails.
What are Liberals so afraid of?
Actually, thinking on this:
It might not even be ego but rather a fairly valid campaign strategy. If everyone is talking about him, then in essential the "other guys" (or "other gal" in this case) is losing attention. It's pretty hard to promote yourself when everyone is ignoring you.
I've often wondered if this strategy is employed somewhat already in various debates.
If you have two groups, and group A wants to silence group B, then one way would be to have a bunch of people with crazy agendas/opinions claim to be part of group B. Then, when everyone is paying attention to the crazy people, they basically take over group B since they're the only ones getting attention. There seems to be a lot of thing in controversies like "gamergate" etc where there were people in both groups with valid opinions, but they were getting overshadows by the crazies who took attention away from the people with serious opinions.
...These emails were deleted from a server that the Democrats were saying was never, ever, in a million years hacked.
But now they are saying that the Russians did hack it, at the behest of Trump, and they did it a year before Trump mentioned it?
I'm sooo confused!
When Fascism comes to America, it will call itself Anti-Fascism, and tell you to give up your guns.
Not sure he's asking the right people, but he certainly isn't wrong when asking for outside parties to properly investigate and expose corrupt Democrats when our own elitist establishment in washington is just providing bread and circuses.
You might be new. Irrelevant though. Perhaps the real question you should ask yourself is where do you think the Russians should search if they wanted to find the missing emails? Or, more to the point, how could the Russians call any search complete without searching the US government computers as well as certain non-government computers.
It seems inescapable that a search for missing emails would require searching computers with the US borders. This would be a cyber invasion and endless squirming or mixing fiction with fact by Trump supporters would change that. Thus, Trump is at best treacherous and at worst treasonous.
Being a new poster might shed a different light on the matter, but no amount of darkness or light can alter the facts.
Some Trumpies are suggesting that he was just being sarcastic. The video is straightforward. No smiles, no sarcastic tone.
Trumps ties to Russia are going to all come out. He has borrowed money from several Russians. His campaign staff has a couple of guys who were tightly connected with Putin in the past and ...? And finally his proposal to lower aid to nato allies is a gift to guess who? Of course, Mother Russia.
Trump is in awe of Putin. Few people in history have garned so much ill-begotten wealth. Of course Trump admires someone like that.. It's almost like kissing a mirror for him.
Can someone please explain to me how you are so stupid as to think any of his comments are serious?
Going to be funny watch Trump win and people like you utterly uncomprehending why.
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
The New York Times isn't a governmental agency or a Presidential candidate.
When they are a full-time propaganda machine FOR a presidential candidate, why do they deserve distinct protection?
"There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
I thought he'd bring jobs back to the US. Here he's not even elected yet, and he starts outsourcing!
I didn't read it as an invitation to hack Hillary's email, I read it more of a "The Russians have already been there long ago."
Perhaps they have access to those missing emails through the "backup" they made a long time ago. Hey Vlad, can you restore some accidentally deleted emails for us, please?
[ScentCone wrote:"As opposed to waiting six months at a time for Clinton to even hold a press conference"]
Maybe you've already seen this -- she held a press conference in June 10, 2016, the summary of which can be seen here:
https://youtu.be/YMHOcmDVBP0
This is from the angle of Hillary facing the camera:
https://youtu.be/lJjHTeo6mVw
From another angle by NBC News (look at the facial reactions of the woman on the left)
https://youtu.be/jtU5nMbEsQ4?t=18s
So few people have seen these videos, it's a shame they haven't gone viral.
Trump's statement, recorded on video with audio, is tantamount to treason.
Try it yourself. Invite an adversarial nation or state to hack servers containing potentially Top Secret information (if the nuts are to be believed), and promise them "rewards" if they do so. You will go to PMITA Federal Prison.
Is sedition still a chargeable offense? Wow, the shit that Trump says....
HA! I just wasted some of your bandwidth with a frivolous sig!
Stuff that matters to The Cult of the Hilldebeast.
You know, just in case he has an archived copy obtained by "private sources" and was saving for later ammunition in an ad campaign.
Irrelevant? Maybe, but who knows. If he isn't hiding anything, then this shouldn't be a problem. If he is not doing anything illegal, then he shouldn't have anything to hide, right?
Isn't that the crap he uses in his complaints about anyone or anything he doesn't like?
Hillary's email server isn't online, any more. Trump's assumption is that her server likely had been compromised (as the FBI director allowed was very possible), and that someone's got the emails. His comment was nothing more than a taunt, which reflects a running joke that had been common among conservatives for the past year or so, all during the hearings and investigations.
do you not?!
Most linux users don't know this, but the man pages were named after Chuck Norris. Chuck Norris fsck'ing hates noobs!
Talk hacking and the public gets boners and forget it is a casino mogul running for POTUS. Mention Russia and oh its spicy news.
Your country is robbed and you consider a casino mogul viable. If not, it's a Jew. Or you know about the other.
It's not libel if it is true, moron.
He's not inviting anyone to do anything. He's saying they already hacked Hillary and that they should go ahead and release the emails.
wow, you guys are late to the party... the Clinton server has been in the FBI's hands for over a year. It can no longer be hacked. Any hacking by the russians occurred more than a year ago. They probably already have her emails and whatever other top secret intelligence info they wanted, since it had no security measures at all. People take trumps remarks too seriously, he speaks off the cuff, and it's actually quite refreshing instead of the typical politician that lies to your face without blinking an eye. That said, Slashdot is best when people don't post the partisan political junk.
We already have laws covering this. It's called libel. Go forth and sue, your Trumpness! Best of luck with that
Just wait until he becomes president and manages to change the libel laws to his advantage. I think he mentioned something like that.
It's not violating our national security, it would merely be violating a personal server. Remember....that's what we've been told.
Can't believe people are willing to vote for the piece of garbage who violated law and procedure and got her servers hacked and jeopardized national security.
It's a lot easier to understand Trump making a joke at said person's expense.
First off the server doesn't exist any more - remember, it was 'wiped' (no, not 'with a towel')
When the server existed, Hillary told us it was never hacked, so there can't be anyone that has copies of her emails.
If the 30,000 deleted emails were copied off the server before it was wiped, we know it doesn't include any 'work-related' emails, because Team Hillary took 2 years and only deleted non-work related emails, like pictures of her granddaughter and yoga routines.
Please explain how making Hillary's yoga routines and granddaughter pictures are matters of national security, and if they truly are, it makes the Republican's case that housing such sensitive material on an insecure private server was, at the minimum, a grossly irresponsible thing to do.
The issue is, has been, and always will be her decision to conduct 100% of her work while Secretary of State on an insecure private email server.
But please, stop trying to convince Americans that asking someone to share Hillary's self-described non-work related emails is an act of treason - you just sound stupid.
"I don't care"
"Politicians have been doing this for decades"
"Regan Got away with it"
"So did Cheney"
"We can indict Hilary for her email server right after we finish sentencing Cheney for war crimes".
Seriously. We let monumental crap following the Afghanistan & Iraq wars just slide. Admit it, you just don't like Hilary, and you'll do literally anything to break her. Maybe you've got a good reason. Maybe you don't. But none of those matter. It's about how you _feel_. But hey, don't take my word for it. Listen to John Oliver.
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I am no Trump fan, but it was clear to me he was not really asking Russia to hack the emails, and this comment is actually sarcastically pointing out that Russia already has them, and reminds everybody of Hillary's terrible and yes illegal decision to have a private email server as Secretary of State.
It is a very effective attack and reminder of this huge problem that won't go away for Hillary. Everytime she things she is past this problem, it comes up again and has severely damaged her reputation.
So they should hack into her personal email server that contained no sensitive data ? Whats the big deal, unless .. Oh I get it now.
Thanks for exposing all the far-left morons who fail to read/watch/listen to the facts first before they knee-jerk. Looking forward to more things Trump says to be taken out of context so my stock in popcorn soars.
What the mother loving fuck? Can Slashdot editors READ? Is the data now in CURSIVE?
Oh, and your video doesn't say what you say it says.
Slashdot fucked the duck on this one.
Mis-quoted, taken out of context after letting the main stream media run it through their overlords at the DNC and you fucking droolers post this shit?
I hope your daddy lied to your mummy like that and actually did cum in her mouth.
And, that's also stacked on the unsubstantiated LIE that the Russians did the DNC hacks. Hello, I can make my computer type cyrillic characters, and I can use proxies or compromised devices in other countries. Does that make me Russian?
What a bunch of pathetic nonsense.
was a page out of the LBJ playbook, when he called a fatuous press conference as Fannie Lou Hamer was about to address the 1964 DNC. Not a politician my ass.
"Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
thats not at all what he said? did you even listen to the audio?
I know it's really really hard to fact check, but give it a try sometime. As others have pointed out, there is a crafted narrative regarding Trump which the media across the board is spreading. Almost every major news outlet has the same exact story and spin, yet numerous third party people and sites read things completely differently and there are fringe shows which make it abundantly clear that the propaganda engine is running full steam.
Context matters. Not just with Trump but with anyone get their quotes in context. The nature of Trumps comment was easy to see sarcasm.
Non quoted quotes. Trump never said what TFA claims he said. The headline was a complete fabrication created by moving words around and removing context.
The massive amount of propaganda is known by a majority of the populace. This is why Hillary is down today to 40% versus Trumps 47%. The massive lies being spread by media is making things worse for Hillary.
There are whole lot of things to argue with Trump about, yet those arguments are ignored and the DNC and Hillary resort to race baiting and fear mongering with all kinds of easy to see false claims regarding his character.
The allegory of the cave is a 2 way lesson. It's not simply about why it's important to pull people out, it's a message for people seeking power that people don't go back into the cave easily.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
WE HAVE MORE THAN TWO POLITICAL PARTIES IN THIS COUNTRY.
That's only technically true. The U.S. Constitution doesn't actually specify that there can only be two parties, but it arranges a winner-take-all system that organically results in the emergence of a two-party system. For a third party to gain a foothold, one of the two major parties has to fission roughly in half. (The last time this happened was before the Civil War, when the Whigs split up.) The U.S. has always had third parties, but each one is a satellite of one of the two major parties. (The Libertarian Party is a splinter off the Republican Party, and the Green Party is a splinter off the Democratic Party.) The reason that these parties stay small is obvious- if a Democrat votes Green, he knows it will help the Republicans, and if a Republican votes Libertarian, he knows it will help the Democrats. So the third parties only get a small number of protest votes (and only if these people don't stay home and watch Netflix).
This clearly has an effect on Senate elections. Also on the Electoral College during presidential elections, but states are reluctant to apportion electoral votes by the proportion of voters- since it means voters in that state exert less of an effect on the outcome of a presidential election than voters in winner-take-all states nearby.
Meanwhile the House of Representatives is controlled not by a majority of voters, not even by a majority of seats, but by a majority of a majority of seats. And that majority-of-a-majority isn't even answerable to the majority of voters in their districts, but to the (generally nutcase) minority that votes in primaries. Even if you disregard the ridiculous gerrymandering of districts, this isn't government by the people; it's government by a minority of a majority of a minority of the people. It's an absurd perversion of democracy and one of the biggest bugs in the Constitution.
If you believe HRC, the emails are all about yoga, Chelsea's wedding centerpieces, and probably a bunch of questions from HRC about how she can get minesweeper to work. The only risk to Russia having those emails is if HRC is full of shit and deleted pertinent email whole under subpoena. Which of course she is.
But anyway, never Trump.
In the land where the handgun is a common combined penis and flag substitute the "assassin" didn't even bring a gun. Not much of an attempt. File him with the thousands of other crazies who "would have done something" but were dragged off from events like that.
The real thing, a guy who shot Reagan, is being released today. He didn't just turn up with some stupid "plan" to steal a gun from a cop.
Russia has actively influenced American politics since 1918.
This is the first time democrats have minded.
Gotta keep up their rep I suppose.
Trump didn't ask Russian to hack us. He's recognizing that they most likely already have. Since our own government won't prosecute what is obviously a crime to most of the United States and the Main Stream Media are just ignoring it in order to prop up the criminal, the only solution that may result in everyone learning the truth is for Russia to release something they ALREADY HAVE.
Does not mean that full context does not exist. It simply means you are lazy. Do you need me to provide a LMGTFY link to "Donald Trump Full Speech 7/27" or can you do that much all by yourself? And just because it seems to be rocket science, change the goddamn date to what ever date you wish and you can find other speeches that he has made.
Since you are too lazy to perform a Google search I know damn well that you won't actually read, therefore here is a link so you can listen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?...
No, I do not believe you actually will listen either. You may hear some noise but listening requires some level of motivation.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Listening to the news and hearing over and over that Trump just "invited a foreign power to launch a cyber attack". How stupid do they think we are? Those 33,000 emails were DELETED by Hillary! It is well known that the Kremlin may actually be in possession of these emails from a hack that occurred when Hillary was STILL IN OFFICE! Sheesh!
1. Trump DID NOT call on Russia to do any hacking. He pointed out that IF they hacked us, then they might be the only ones who have the 30K e-mails Hillary deleted while federal investigators were seeking them. If the Russians already have them, then THE NATIONAL SECURITY DAMAGE IS ALREADY DONE and asking Russia to release them could only harm Hillary, NOT America
2. He cannot POSSIBLY be calling on the Russians to hack hillary now, since she has already taken down and wiped her server; he was saying that if Russia are the hackers as the DNC is claiming (without any actual evidence) that then they should give the American people access to the files which the American people own and which Hillary deprived us of. The Democrat accusation is logically absurd.
3. We've just been through several weeks of Democrats insisting that none of Hillary's e-mails were classified, none were a risk to national security, and the ones she deleted were only about yoga and her daughter's wedding dress. NOW we are told that it's TREASON for Trump to ask that these yoga and wedding dress e-mails be released and that their exposure will damage national security?
With the news of the Wikileaks causing trouble the DNC tried to distract everybody from the content by pointing at Russia. They played the "Russkies" card and used the blame-the-exotic-'others' tactic that they accuse Republicans of using. All their spokespeople fanned-out and started pushing it. Obama started using it from the executive branch of government, and all their politicalallies in the newsrooms across the country started pushing the conspiracy theory.
All the major networks and the big newspapers are staffed by Democrats, so if you want to know what Trump said, you have to grow a brain and actually go watch his entire presser instead of stupidly falling for the propaganda version you are being spoon-fed by Hillary supporters who both edit and interpret everything for Hillary's benefit.
People forget that George Stephanopolis at ABC used to be employed by Bill and Hillary Clinton. Chris Matthews at NBC used to be employed by Tip O'Neil (former Democrat House Speaker), Bill Moyers at PBS was the Democrat propagandist who helped Democrat President Lyndon Johnson sell the Vietnam War. Look into these people! Pay attention to who is manipulating you! The networks are FULL of Democrats. How many Reagan employees are anchoring network news programs???? Fox News has a couple BUSHIES doing EDITORIAL content or contributing info about how DC works as guests on programs .... but the news anchors like Chris Wallace, Brett Bair, Shep Smith, Megan Kelly, etc are NOT former chief-of-staff or speechwriters or spokespersons for Republican politicians. Even if Fox were all Republicans all the time it would not even-out ABC,CBS,NBC,MSNBC,PBS, and the papers.
Just because a Democrat tells you he said it,that does not make it true.
Watch the entire press conference, you manipulated moron. Trump was very clearly NOT saying what Democrats are running to all the microphones pretending he said.
First, the Democrats insisted there was nothing classified on Hillary's Servers and that all the e-mails she deleted were about yoga. The they insisted that all the DNC e-mails were just insubstantial political rants by DNC employees and of not real significance. Then when they started to have problems the Democrats yelled "Squirrel!" and pointed at Russia and tried to claim Trump was in league with Putin and that this was all a threat to national security.
It's a mountain of lies. It cannot be in any way as the Democrats claim. Hillary's servers no longer exist, so Trump cannot be asking Putin to do anything going forward, and in fact Trump was very clear in saying that it thr Russians WERE the hackers and DID get the e-mails that were being sought by federal investigators then Russia should hand them over. There can be no nationa security thrreat, since the Democrats have instsited there was no national security related materials hacked.
The scum here are the Democrats flailing about flip-flopping about whether those damned e-mails were classified nationalsecurity stuff or just Hillay e-mailing her daughter about yoga and bridal gowns.
As Glenn Greenwald of The Intercept reminds us, "Governments do spy on each other and do try to influence events in other countries, certainly the U.S. government has a very long and successful history of doing exactly that.". So hearing Americans, particularly Democrats, complain about Trump's request here reminds us the US has unclean hands and about far more important things than distracting us away from the ugliness the Democrats apparently sic on each other to win political races. Some of that increased ugliness includes voter shenanigans (possibly voter suppression) to make it harder for would-be Bernie Sanders voters to vote in the Democratic primary, collusion with news outlets to suppress unfavorable stories, and possible illegality from the DLC. These strike me as far more interesting considering the veracity of the DLC emails remains unchallenged.
The last thing the Democrats really want is people thinking about Hillary Clinton's voting record, or campaign funding sources. That analysis won't go down well with anti-war, pro-universal health care, pro-organized labor, anti-fracking, anti-TPP voters the Democrats seem to be losing. Such discussion might lead these voters to notice that the Democrats are apparently as interested as the Republicans in using a distractionary fear-based campaign against the only competition they're willing to admit to (no talk of Greens or Libertarians, for instance, people might defect or demand inclusive debates).
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Is the DNC a government agency? This day in simple answers for simple questions...
Sure, there are some trends which are pretty well known during the 2 weeks of National conventions. Generally the Rs go up during theirs and the Ds go up during theirs. Ds have not gone up at all, and I don't expect they will. Sanders threw his whole revolution under the Hillary bus, and she backed over it a few times. Hiring Wassermann-Schultz was the most idiotic move possible for Hillary to make on Monday, and what did Hillary do? This added to a massive decline which was already in progress.
FWIW I'm not a Trump supporter either. I would rather have had Paul or Carson. Neither perfect, but both real conservatives who believe in the Constitution. The Republican party messed up big time, trying to put in a phony puppet in Bush and then panicking when the people didn't play along. They don't have who they want, but they can at least recover. The RNC actually supported the people's choice despite him not being a true Republican. That was a smart move given the climate.
The Democratic party and Hillary are still train wrecks in progress. It's actually just as fun to watch as the Republican side was. The difference is that Hillary was not wanted by anyone except for Hillary and the Party. Unlike her Husband Hillary sucks at faking it. The Democratic party didn't care and put her up anyway, cheating and lying as much as needed to get her wedged in. The people are pissed, and that is the theme of this whole election cycle (for both parties).
It's funny to keep listening to the paid for media claim that Sanders people are all going to vote Hillary. Not one group I have read or talked to will vote for her. She is the reason people supported Bernie to begin with, people are tired of the corrupt politicians working for the mega wealthy. Trump may be wealthy, but he's the smaller enemy on the field. The best hope the Ds have is that all the Bernie supporters stay home. Many are so disenfranchised that they will, but others are so pissed off they will vote for Trump.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Just imagine what happens to the mindless morons in BOTH parties who despise him and to the armies of mindless bureaucrats who infest Washington DC.
The whole place would go into meltdown mode over a businessman who goes in there and points out the insanity, exposes the incongruities, and challenges the bogus claims that the political class are entirely dependent upon.
The guy points out that IF the Russians are the hackers, as the Democrats in DC claim, then they might have copies of all the e-mails Hillary deleted before wiping her servers to obstruct federal investigators then they ought to release them to us. He highlights that there cannot be a national security problem because the Democrats have insisted for the past year that there was no national security info on them. Washington DC and the NYC press are going crazy, over this very rational bit of common sense!
Trump, as a non-politician business guy is used to asking for results, and asking logical questions and uncovering bogus excuses. Hillary's excuses are as flimsy as a "dog ate my homework" claim and Trump would see right through it if an employee showed up at a meeting with that sort of garbage, so being a non-politician he called her out on it, indirectly by tying her claims back to the claims of her DNC buddies and exposing the logical fallacy.
The man is BRILLIANT!
So you don't think the Republican candidate for the Presidency of the US inviting a foreign power, one that is at the best of times in a rather tense relationship with the United States, to hack into US systems just to gain dirt on the other party's nominee is reasonable?
It's obvious to a native speaker of English (who isn't astroturfing the Democrats' talking points) that Trump was NOT inviting the Russians to initiate a new crack on his opponent's servers.
He was ribbing his opponents, and keeping their lax security (and their "The Russians are aiding him!" attempt at distraction) in the public eye, by pointing out that the Russians probably ALREADY have the emails that Clinton's people "can't find", and inviting them to dig them out of their own archives and provide them to investigators and/or the press.
People claiming he is inviting new espionage don't just look foolish. They also play into his hands, by keeping the issue in the face of prospective voters.
But feel free to continue. B-)
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The Trumpster has Democrats all across America insisting that the size of Hillary Clinton's yoga pants are a vital national security secret!
That does it! I'm voting Trump! The super-troll who trolled the entire Democratic party who trashed and sobotaged Bernie!
She says the the stuff she wiped was about yoga, then cliams the hacking is by Putin, then when Trump calls on Putin to hand over copies of her emails she and her followers all scream that the stuff is classified and Trump is risking national security.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. Team Hillary is staffed with morons.
Trump reminds us Nazi Hitler. Hitler first made bogus peace with Russia, Italy and Japan but finally was destroyed. Trump has German origin and may be he is related to Hitler? His bizarre behavior is enjoyed by stupid Republicans, will kill all of us, but there are enough Koch brothers to prevent it. After all, they don't want Russia to take away their wealth. So, let us enjoy the joke and drama.
asking a person who already committed a crime to hand over the ill-gotten gains, as evidence. The hacks already happened. Hillary's servers were scrapped long ago, and the files she deleted were files she created on the taxpayer's dime and time and were the property of the taxpayers who have every right to the evidence.
Donald is on his knees, ready to go to work.
This is such fucking bullshit. He did NOT phrase it clearly, I grant you, but anyone watching should have been able to see he was suggesting IF the Russians or Chinese, or whoever had the emails, they should look on THEIR computers to "FIND" the missing emails.
I had a sucky sig.
Presidents don't get to unilaterally change laws.
30,000 illegally missing emails and you're still considering voting for this person? Holy shit! That's plain corruption, she should be in court for this...
...both for Slashdot, and for the USA. Clearly, a majority of posters here have identified the story as the bull excrement that it is -- a DNC-media talking-point collusion, that has no basis in reality.
The WSJ page one headline is “Trump Urges Russia To Wade Into Race”. The lead sentence says Trump “invited Russia on Wednesday to Unearth some of Hilary Clinton’s missing emails from her time as Secretary of State, drawing sharp criticism that he was urging a foreign power to spy on the U.S.”
Now this is profoundly silly; we spy on them and they spy on us. Both countries treat spying as a crime when someone else is doing it and a necessary when they are doing it.
But what did Trump actually say? The WSJ uses a sophisticated way of hiding the actual quote; they put half of it at the end of page A1 and the rest after the jump on page A8. The aim of this traditional and widespread ploy is to make it unlikely that the reader will read the jump and be able to get the whole sentence. It is a surprisingly effective trick. The full Trump Twitter quote is buried in the following WSJ sentence: “Russia- if you are listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump told reporters at (Now the Jump to Page A8) his resort near Miami. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press”.
Upps! So Trump is simply noting the obvious. The Clinton server was probably hacked by multiple parties- the Russians, some Romanian kids and probably others. These parties have the missing 30,000 Clinton “Personal” emails which her attorneys say they would love to turn over to the Court for review but they can’t because they erased them from her computer after deeming them as “Private” (without actually reading the emails- they just looked at the subject line). Trump is calling their bluff. “Fine if you can’t find them I’m sure the Russians can give us a copy”. Then he takes a slam at the press which loves to call the dumps “dangerous leaks” but then proceeds to publish the texts to boost circulation.
The NYT gave the full quote on P1 under the headline “Trump Challenges Russia To Find Clinton’s Emails” with a sub-head “Urges Moscow to Spy on His Rival Amid Hacking of Democratic Committee”. Sorry guys, wrong verb tense. He isn’t encouraging them to spy (neither Russia nor the U.S. neads any encouragement). The spying was done months- maybe years- ago because all the emails were in an insecure server in the Clinton’s New York home. If there is anything incriminating in them, so be it. We Americans have a right to see them.
While it is likely that Trump was being sarcastic and using this is a media grabbing tactic to go after HRC (I'm not a fan of either and not American - so my views aren't relevant.
This is, however, a historical precedent on why having the leader of a nation state make off the cuff remarks is dangerous to peace.
Consider way back in 1770 when Henry the II was getting annoyed at the Archbishop of Canterbury because he was doing things the king didn't really approve of, Henry uttered those infamous words, 'Who will rid me of this turbulent priest.' 4 knights overheard and long story short, one dead arch bishop.
The impact of this was huge - even by medieval standards.
Now imagine a modern day scenario where a president who has a well known temper, lashes out against those who 'oppose' him, and isn't known to staying on message.
Terrifying.
"Omnis tuus capsa sunt inesse nos"
What is it about republicans that makes them feel like it’s okay to commit any kind of crime, as long as it serves some other moral crusade they have?
Hacking is wrong and should be punished with jail time unless we’re doing it to attack the Democrats. Then it’s okay.
Lying is wrong and sinful except when creationists flat out lie to you about the evidence for evolution. Then it’s okay, because they’re on a mission to lead you to God by any means necessary, no matter how morally questionable those means would be under an other circumstances.
That would be treason and is punishable by death. I don't believe in the death penalty, but I heartily endorse it in this specific case!
This is nothing more than the DNC/media distracting everyone from the hot story about how the democratic nomination was stolen from Bernie. The entire primary was a farce, but we'll just fire the chairwoman, and call it all good. NO, NO, NO, NO, NO. This is not democracy, this is a coronation by a group of inside elitists, and the rest of you plebes can suck it up. We'll just point to Trump and scream about how everything is his fault.
Just another day in Paradise
I listened to his comments. I was truly shocked. At some point, it becomes not at all funny, and the great irony is that he calls Hillarhy a criminal, yet as far as I am concerned, with the utterance of those sentences, he committed high treason. There is a level at which they take this stuff very very seriously.
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/28/... It was just a big joke and expert trolling. Just like the rest of his candidacy...
Dangerous? Him joking about it won't cause the Russians to go back in time to when they could steal the emails from Hillary's server prior to deletion.
But it will show us how many people are so scared of Trump that they've stopped thinking. Fear is the mind killer.
When has any country waited for permission to hack another? They aren't vampires. They're not waiting for an invitation from the man of the house to attempt to break in.
I'm more worried about our own country hacking us. I'd be willing to bet that the NSA has at least 2 copies of all her emails.
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Slashdot, I don't so much mind the blatantly-whatever articles, but could you at least not make your bias so flamingly evident in the headlines?
~REZ~ #43301. Who'd fake being me anyway?
"“Probably it was China or somebody else."
Star Trek transporters are just 3d printers.
I thought Trump was supposed to be FOR working class ‘mericans and yet he proposes a plan to outsource our espionage and put ‘merican spooks out of work?
What’s next? Will he require that extraordinary renditions be performed by Tata contractors now? Will ‘merica trade away it’s position as the world’s foremost authority on torture just to save a few measly bucks?
For shame.
The Russians are doing us all favor, by hacking our systems and showing it to the public.
It wakes us up, and gives us a chance to fix the leaks before we actually lose critical operational info.
Now if they would just hack the Republicans, too... 8-)
(And maybe a few big companies.)
I know others like Trump. Any action is OK if it furthers their interest, where the same action is outrageous, immoral, and/or illegal if it retards their interest.
The thing is, those others aren't in a position to perhaps one day soon command the greatest executive power afforded a single individual on this planet.
We need change, but change is insufficient. Inadequate. We need good change.
Humor in the form of hyperbole. Even if the Dems are so humor impaired as to take it seriously, what Trump was asking for is the release of e-mails the hackers already have because they were capturing everything that ran over Hillary's unsecured connections the entire time she was circumventing the law. Still, a joke at the expense of Hillary.
Oh you mean how we're allowed to hack other nations governments and our own domestic computers secretly behind the scenes but suddenly when someone says it publicly it becomes treasonous?
Give me a break.
this is a major party nominee calling for another country to commit cybercrime and violate our national security for his own political gain.
If she's telling the truth, and all of the 30,000 deleted emails are merely about "yoga" and such, how would doing anything with them be a national security violation?
But she isn't telling the truth. I know it, Trump knows it, and you pretend to not know it.
that's essentially the same thing as officials in the presidential administration just giving the classified information to a journalist and encouraging them to publish it.
It is in no way the same thing.
When an administration leaks information, it wants the information to be published, and it puts thought into exactly what information will be leaked and to whom it will be leaked.
On the other hand, we know that some effort was made to keep the email server secure (about as well as a small two-bit IT firm could manage), and there were scared reactions when weird behavior made people think that it might have been hacked; and if it was hacked, the operators of the server had absolutely no control over which entities hacked it, or what subset of the stored information was exfiltrated.
Yeah, that sounds like "essentially the same thing."
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
There is no law requiring candidates to disclose their taxes; many have done it over the years to pretend to be "open", but the truth is that people like the Clintons who "release their taxes" actually have most of their money in multi-layered "charity" organizations, trusts, etc. Have you seen all the financial records of the Clinton Foundation? Though not.
This is just a DNC talking point.
Hillary is so opaque that she deleted tens of thousands of federal documents and claimed it was all A-OK because they were all about yoga and wedding dresses - and we must take her word for it, just as we must believe her on TPP which she worked to pass and used to say was the "gold standard" of trade agreements, now says she is against, and her people are telling Wall Street she will be for again after the election.
Donald Trump is a tool and a fool. I don't care where you are on the political spectrum, encouraging hackers to break into organizations is bad and irresponsible. Encouraging Russian hackers is doubly so. There's more than a little history between Russia and the U.S.
What's next? "Hey, ISIS is fighting Assad in Syria, GO ISIS!!!" How about this, "Hey, Boko Haram is against corruption in Kenya, YAY BOKO HARAM!!!"
You are known by the company you keep. What does this say about Donald Trump?
calling upon a foreign power to target his opponent by attacking federal government computer systems, though? That's much, much worse.
Um, the 30,000 emails that were deleted were never stored on a federal government computer system. That is one of the fishiest things about this matter.
Do you realize that the system they were stored on is now offline, and therefore impossible to attack? Trump realizes this, and that is what makes his joke funny. You don't seem to realize it.
That that is is that that that that is not is not.
This is a poorly manufactured political story to reinforce the "Trump is a madman" theory. The server that once contained the Clinton emails is in the possession of the FBI and presumably no longer connected to the internet. When it did exist it was a private server of the Clintons in their New York home. The only reason it would have sensitive information on it would be because it was being illegally used to conduct State Department business by the former Secretary of State Clinton. The emails in question would be the ones that were deleted by Secy Clinton's lawyers as being her personal correspondence with friends and family. The story has more holes than four wheels of delicious Swiss cheese. It is an indication of the desperation of supporters of a deeply flawed candidate who claimed the nomination of her party by devious and probably illegal means as described in the emails of the DNC released by Wikileaks.
JoeR
Well.... There's one way to de-escalate and chill-out some of the heated rhetoric between America and Russia of late, which the current Administration has seen fit to continuously escalate. These career politicians keep bashing Trump saying he's got no clue on how to handle foreign policy, and yet here he may just prove to be the best man to repair much of the broken relations we're experiencing with Russia. I can't tell if the man does it on purpose, or is just lucky as hell. Either way... He's got my vote.
is it a clown???, a buffoon ???, no it's Donaaald
Meh. Trump has intentionally branded himself as being non-diplomatic. So this shouldn't really surprise anyone. At the same time him saying what he did really changes nothing. He mentioning China while being undiplomatic is also something that is obvious to anyone on Slashdot so I don't see how that can upset anyone. I doubt any of it is really true to be honest. However both countries, and in particular China, have had many accusations towards them in hacking, espionage etc... It is just that is publicly "said" it.
I'm sure if Russia did hack the DNC or Hillary it was probably just because of curiosity while watching the shitshow that is the American politics the last year or so. Kinda like someone might hack a network to see the next crazy episode of some reality show (which is probably way Trump is doing so well, he's figured out early that he can just treat this as a reality show which he has a lot of experience at).
Putin: OK I gotta know what happens next it's killing me! Russian Hackers Assemble!
Face it, Hilary Clinton plays her privileged elite card all the time.
Any regular person who conducted official, classified, business via an insecure private email account would be prosecuted and sent to jail. Any regular employee that deleted (destroyed) electronic records in defiance of legally mandated public record retention regulations would be censured and at least fired of not prosecuted and jailed.
You may disagree, but the blatant disregard for following the rules that the rest of us are forced to follow by the Clinton scam master couple has me seriously considering voting Trump for "Clown in Chief".
NRRPT/RCT