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Slashdot Asks: Windows 10 Creators Update Goes Live On April 11, Will You Upgrade?
Microsoft said today it will start rolling out Windows 10 Creators Update, the latest major update to its current desktop operating system, starting April 11. The company says Windows 10 Creators Update brings with it a range of new features. Some of the chief ones are:
1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge.
2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks.
3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D.
4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application.
5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night.
6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity).
7. Native support for surround sound.
8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app.
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets.
Over the past two years, we have seen numerous instances where Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 update to customers who have Windows 7 or 8 running on their machines. There are still hundreds of millions of customers who're yet to upgrade from Windows 7, arguing that they either prefer how Windows 7 looks and functions, or (in some cases, and) why fix something when nothing is broken. That said, would you consider upgrading your system to Windows 10 Creators Update?
1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge.
2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks.
3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D.
4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application.
5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night.
6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity).
7. Native support for surround sound.
8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app.
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets.
Over the past two years, we have seen numerous instances where Microsoft has been pushing Windows 10 update to customers who have Windows 7 or 8 running on their machines. There are still hundreds of millions of customers who're yet to upgrade from Windows 7, arguing that they either prefer how Windows 7 looks and functions, or (in some cases, and) why fix something when nothing is broken. That said, would you consider upgrading your system to Windows 10 Creators Update?
Do you have a choice?
It'll deserve a BIG Thank You M$! - For deploying an update that needlessly shortens my SSD life while adding a ton of bloat, without really fixing any existing issues...
X11 that is. "Creator's Upsate"? Really? Well that name doesn't *sound* very creative. I'm just saiyan (like Goku).
Someone had to do it.
Okay, the Home edition still tries to prevent you from shutting off the crumy updates, and even the pro edition limits your ability to control the OS compared to Windows 7. What good is this decorative entertainment nonsense when the OS controls you. Hopefully people will wake up and get of Windows 10 before the next updates starts telling you what you are allowed to install. That is how bad this OS is. (See class action lawsuit over update mechanism)
"Imagination is more important than knowledge" - Einstein
Guess this is their way of celebrating the ignition of Vista's funeral pyre. Same day extended support ceases. Captcha:virgins
With all communication to Microsoft shut off.
no
I would deride them thoroughly for being so late to the party with a lot of this stuff, but it's good to hear they're doing... something. Something happened.
There is no XUL, only WebExtensions...
C'mon, guys. From my perspective it'd be a downgrade.
But hey, wish y'all a great experience!
would be nice if lock screens would display on all monitors, a fix that might "never" come.
M$ is bad because M$!
Did you see {thing} they did(not) do? It is bad because they did(not) do it!
Does it really go live April 11? Or did they mean April 1?
I'll see your senator, and I'll raise you two judges.
Does it run on Linux? I use Mint and Slackware. I just wonder if I need to update them first.
since windows 10 regular users (more like betatesters) will be mandatory updated to this version, no mattter if it works or not :P
so as the only group that can actually answer that question (win7 here), no, im not upgrading to windows 10, ever
thats a question for 7 years down the line when support for windows 8 ends, like bane said, "come on slashdot, now its not the time for windows 10, THAT COMES LATER!!!!"
Is windows still free?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge.
I don't use Edge.
2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks.
See #1.
3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D.
If it's anything like Paint was for graphics then most likely I'd use something more robust instead of Paint to make 3d stuff. Assuming I have 3D stuff to make in the first place.
4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application.
That sounds annoying.
5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night.
Honestly not sure about this one. My eyes are fine looking at the screen at night.
6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity).
Just what I always wanted for my computer, another attack vector for breaking in.
7. Native support for surround sound.
That's nice, don't have surround sound but I seriously think that's a nice feature.
8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app.
I don't use Maps and in fact if I could uninstall it I did or would if I could.
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
I found it annoying when Windows unexpectedly loaded up things like a session record when I fired up Minecraft one day because "gaming experience". Do not annoy me further please.
10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets.
Like surround sound this is nice but not something I use.
Over all I have little incentive to update Windows, more incentive to reformat and use another operating system on my only Windows machine left in my collection. The reality however is they will most likely force this update on me one way or another so if it bugs me to much I'll have no more Windows machines "just for certain games" because the operating system those games relies on is far to annoying for me to continue to in that market when better alternatives I'm already running on a gaming laptop I have running Linux are available.
Where's that meme picture...
None of these features sound good. None of them.
crazy dynamite monkey
Not until they totally remove the spyware they infested it with.
So no, but I'll enjoy the reporting of the usual doom and mayhem it will generate.
Irrelevant news and morons using moderation to mod down what they disagree on. 2018 resolution: so long.
I'll stay with Windows 7 for a while longer. But I won't be installing Windows 10 willingly, if ever.
Microsoft: "We let you choose how much spying we do on your activities!"
Users: "Uh...please don't spy on us at all. Like, none."
Microsoft: "OK, here's some revised settings that don't let you actually turn data collection off! One is called 'Basic'!"
Users: "..."
No gods, no demons, and no masters. Secular Humanism!
But it's not like we have a choice. Why are you even asking us?
and maybe not after April 18th, either.
I swear Microsoft always seems to not only not support old versions but actively creates issues to force you to upgrade. On windows 7 just on March 15th they pushed a "security update" to 2010 Microsoft office that basically makes any file with macros in it crash unexpectedly many times a day. I had to roll back the updates on every computer in our office and disable windows updates because we rely heavily on macros. It's so frustrating that things can work fine and they break it. Now we have to think about upgrading to the lastest operating system and Microsoft office which both already changed the way VBA works so transitioning and keeping our existing macros running is going to take many months of work.
That's as stupid as buying iPhone apps from iTunes or making a voice call from FaceTime.
#DeleteFacebook
The more relevant question is: will I be upgraded?
But not today, or April 11. We have Windows 7 at work, and Windows 10 at the college where I teach. Windows 10 has exactly 0 compelling new features for me. Sadly, our department at work will be upgrading sometime before the fall semester. Can't wait to see what specialized software I run is going to break!
Taking guns away from the 99% gives the 1% 100% of the power.
I'm upgrading to Windows 10 Creators Update from Linux.
Linux doesn't have a Creators Update. They don't care about the creators.
We're all running Windows 7, Systemd-less Linux or even BSD.
I guess it isn't terribly creative, but complaining about Paint's name is like complaining about Notepad... it'd be more confusing if they renamed it.
Why log me out and not just 'Lock this computer'? This is as stupid as no-choice reboots to install updates.
* remove all tracking?
* remove all msft-centric advertising?
* protect our privacy by NOT scanning and reporting files it sees back to big brother?
* let us choose which non-security updates are installed?
* let us delay reboots post-update for 12 hrs?
* not contain any back doors?
* honor the old-school hosts file for everything?
* run on my existing hardware?
* support my existing printer and scanners?
* not suck?
Yes (he says hopefully)?
1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge. Yay now I can preview it before I close it because it auto opens and that's the only reason I use edge.
2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks. Actually not a horrid feature as long as I'm reading an ebook on my PC which I don't.
3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D. Much like it painted as well as Photoshop?
4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application. VLC has it and plays more file formats still...
5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night. Or use correct lighting in a room
6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity). Yay, now if I drop my phone, or pass it to someone to make a phone call my PC will lock
7. Native support for surround sound. *shrug* I have surround sound with my 7.2 speakers already
8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app. Nobody uses Microsoft's Map app....
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience. Ensures how? throttling my background tabs? How will it affect streaming?
10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets. Yay, now we can hope that Microsoft keeps on top of their VR software...
If my laptop will even finish its current update. For the last while now I turn it on and it starts spinning saying configuring updates 100% complete seemingly indefinitely, it doesn't get to 100% it starts there. (I left it for nearly an hour once and it was still 100% complete) so I kill the power, it turns on again says configuration failed and I'm good to go. The laptop is pretty fucked though and its battery doesn't work. I only use it for videos or streaming xbox otherwise I might look into sorting it out.
Wanna buy a shirt?
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None of the changes mentioned in the summary are of any interest to me. The most exciting feature of the "Creators Update" is the ability to create symlinks without elevation... Woo-hoo!
http://www.ghacks.net/2016/12/...
I don't believe this one is a mandatory upgrade - Anniversary Edition wasn't, for example, and this is the same level of upgrade.
You are not alone. This is not normal. None of this is normal.
I am almost positive I will be upgrading.
Not because I want to, but because Microsoft will "upgrade" my machine behind my back, whether I want to upgrade or not.
God help us all, if they ever get a zero day on Linux, because then a lot more machines will end up "upgraded" to Windows 10...
And stop asking stupid questions.
> 1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge.
> 2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks.
I use Chrome. I don't have any plans to switch.
> 3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D.
I don't use Microsoft Paint (paint.net or photoshop works fine), and I don't create 3D models.
> 4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application.
This was first possible in Windows 3.0 (I don't think there were any video players for Windows 2.0?). In modern Windows, right click on your media player and select "Always on top".
> 5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night.
There have been apps to do this for as long as I can remember.
> 6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity).
I don't tend to lock my computer at home, and the large delay (30 seconds after the bluetooth signal drops) before it locks after you walk around the computer makes it useless for any environment that actually requirse real security.
> 7. Native support for surround sound.
Windows has had native support for surround sound (without any custom software) since, what, Vista?
> 8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app.
Nobody uses Bing Maps. People use Google Maps, or Transit, or even Apple Maps. But not Bing Maps.
> 9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
It's still not clear if it works with the games that people actually own, or if it only works with Windows Store games that have a tiny market share. Also, the only benchmarks we've seen from beta versions show that game mode actually reduces performance by 2-5%.
> 10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets.
I'm sure that all three people who mortgaged their houses to buy the HoloLens will be thrilled. For most people, headset (I presume you meant headset) based mixed reality is far enough away that Windows 10 won't be relevant by the time it's a thing.
The summary is a bit unfair in listing a subset of the new features.
Plenty of articles popped last month on the subject.
I'm upgrading, but then again, I'm not a paranoid, delusional basement dweller who thinks they should stick with one OS (for the record, I run everything from Linux to Windows and a few things in between, like Apple's stuff - whatever is appropriate for the hardware).
Also, as somebody who has run 2nd generation SSDs for 8+ years without powering them down, I'm not to worried about Microsoft "needlessly shortening my SSD life" with an update, LOL. I don't have an urgent need to hyperbolize everything or insist people stop liking what I don't like.
I assume it will upgrade on its own during the night without consent or warning, and without saving the content of any of the open apps, just like all other Windows 10 upgrades.
I actually rather like Windows 10, have had no problems with it.
CREATORS CREATORS CREATORS CREATORS CREATORS!!!!! duuuuhhhhhh.....
God I so do not miss proprietary shit-ware.
pr0n - keeping monitor glass spotless since 1981.
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
Fascinating a "game mode" would be needed to keep system processes from interfering with the operation of games.
Preoccupying CPU caches with Microsoft P2P networks to facilitate forced updates and constant data collection must be taxing on otherwise idle W10 systems regardless number of available cores.
I've already upgraded all my servers to Debian, one laptop and one netbook to Linux Mint, and some computers to Linux Mint. I still have Win7 on one laptop I don't really use, a home theatre PC that I will upgrade soon, and my main rig which will get upgraded to Mint when I buy Ryzen. Gaming will take a hit, but other than that I've been extremely happy with the changes to Linux I've made over the last year. I will probably keep one Windows 7 around for Windows only games, and pass on any Windows 10 or Direct 12 exclusive games.
prove yourself = possible
Yes, upgrade from MS Windows to Linux! Use that most of the time, run Windows only in a VM and only if you have to. If it's absolutely necessary, have a computer that boots into Windows - but the more dust said computer collects, the better for you and for the entire world.
Elsewhere on Slashdot is a story about why Flash died. Too bad it wasn't talking about Windows instead. I had no love for Flash either; but if I got to choose which one of them would be pushing up daisies, Flash blocking browser extensions would still be a thing.
'The Economy' is a giant Ponzi scheme whose most pitiable suckers are the youngest among us and the yet-unborn.
Why is Windows 10 considered an upgrade to anything save, oh, Bob or GEM?
do I have a choice?
I actually just this week stocked up on some Skylake parts, as to avoid a forced upgrade that comes with Kaby Lake. The key issue for me would be: Does the UI still look like the afterbirth from Win 3.1?
By all accounts, the answer is yes. It is utterly beyond me how such a terrible eye-straining flat UI could be launched in this decade.
It is now.
Will your computer upgrade? Or will you pull a Kaspar Hauser on it and cut it off from the outside world? You may still find that it anticipated your move and one day, when you least expect it, it will have rolled on its mouse balls to the next Ethernet socket and spent all your data allotment on Windows10 Creators like an addicted child on crack.
The main thing mentioned that I care about is the new screen dimmer, but I've been using f.lux for years.
"Dynamic Lock" could be very handy (auto-lock when you walk away) and I've been looking into something to do that, but I'm looking at it for a scenario of PCs in exam rooms so pairing all of them to doctors' phones isn't really a viable option.
Not mentioned in the summary, but possibly important to readers here:
Improvements to control over updates, such as being able to prevent driver updates.
Improvements to privacy settings - Maybe not so relevant if you're using O&O ShutUp, but nice to have. Apparently includes the ability to see (and clear) the info that MS has, along with a reduction of the info sent when you're using "Basic" telemetry settings.
An upgrade to Windows Subsystem for Linux (will be bumped to Ubuntu 16.04 from the current 14.04) and better integration with Windows apps.
A navigation bar in the registry, which could actually be really handy.
If you use OneDrive on both a desktop with tons of storage (and everything local) and a laptop with an SSD smaller than what's in your OneDrive, now there will apparently be better behavior for files not local on the smaller system. Currently, you basically just modify in OneDrive Settings which folders are available on each system.
fencepost
just a little off
Are they saving it for NTFS's 30th anniversary FFS ?
According to "Barnacules Nerdgasm" on Youtube, who previously worked on Windows at Microsoft, people he know who are still inside have told him that "telemetry" (I.e. spying) will get harder to disable in future updates. Whether all of these will be in this next update or in a future one is hard to say.
He commented to his own video with this:
"We mustn't be caught by surprise by our own advancing technology" -- Aldous Huxley
1. will allow to completely disable telemetry (or won't include it at all)
2. will not have any mention of UWP/Metro (right now it's even built into Explorer)
3. will allow to control updates and Windows Defender
4. will return Classic Control Panel along with all removed options like Glass, Classic UI, etc.
5. Will introduce Service packs back.
Until then Windows 7 is more than good for me.
Worst case scenario, you would block them at your router (assuming that you control the network).
The update will likely crash (as occurred with the last major update), and require a manual download and installation.
But now that you mention it, RemixOS sounds better all the time.
Never looking back. Even with its relative issues compared to Linux, FreeBSD is a dream of a personal computer OS compared to Windows 10.
The people who need quality patches that have undergone thorough regression testing will likely pay for it.
"Windows Update Premium Subscription" should delay patches for all products until they are verified correct, and allow the user to schedule the patch runs.
$200/year, and many would likely pay it.
... to Debian Jessie.
For everyday users, they really need to dump Windows 10 Home Edition, replace it with Windows 10 Pro, then just call it Windows 10.
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How about leaving Paint alone (2D editing) and create something else instead of cramming 3D editing into Paint?
#DeleteFacebook
I only use it at work. I use Linux at home, and my family uses Win7.
My beliefs do not require that you agree with them.
All you *can* do is a depth-first traversal of the entire GUI
Spoken like a zealot who hasn't had experience with Windows in over a decade.
Power users don't use the GUI, champ.
Windows 10 will help serve the public even better once our new Connect-to-spying-ISP module is completed now that the new law is almost passed. Just think of what Windows 10 Telemetry AND ISP-Logging can do!
Eventually Microsoft will shovel the Creators' update onto all Windows 10 computers.
Remember kids, if you're not paying for the service, YOU ARE THE PRODUCT THAT IS BEING SOLD.
My one Windows 10 PC, a laptop, just received an automatic update and is now in the Spinning Wheel of Death. The one nice thing about the Spinning Wheel of Death is that it prevents it from booting up and receiving more shitty updates from Microsoft. What a P.O.S. My Windows 7 machines employ active measures to prevent them from being infected with Windows 10.
What are the odd this breaks Turbo Tax or H&R Block...
Oh no ... every time I saw the word "major", I have to pray and hope that the update won't ruin my box (especially the coexisting linux installation).
No list of features is more than the cost of moving from my current version.
Each time I get forced to do this, the cost of moving to the next version goes up. This has been happening since XP.
The features don't exist in a vacuum, and the context has high costs.
The marketing of the feature is not the same as the substance of the feature.
- https://goo.gl/images/6UzYJj
EngrStudent
Not that I wouldn't necessarily want it, but since I have the Windows Update service permanently disabled because it's so incredibly and ridiculously obnoxious and "poorly designed" (for which that phrase alone in this context gives the idea of software design a bad name), I don't think I'll ever get prompted for it.
I'm still holding out for the day when MS manages to extract their metaphorical head from their ass for just long enough to comprehend that being as obtrusive as humanly possible with pushing updates is a MONUMENTALLY STUPID business decision, if you want people to actually take updates. Gotta stop drooling on the floor before you can walk, gotta walk before you can run, gotta run before you can pitch an "upgrade" as an actual upgrade, etc.
I hope this version of OS tanks as badly as their last one. Their continued proliferation of giving my computer existential failures should be reflected in existential-scale hits to revenue for their corporation.
Win10 was a downgrade in so many ways, its hard to see how they can continue to claim it is an "upgrade".
Maybe when Win10 supports the *option* for the same features of the Win7 Desktop, and stops trying to dumb down Desktops to the level of a smartphone, it would *start* to be an "upgrade", but it really is an "upgrade" to move to Win10, it's NOT an upgrade.
Win10 has been about supporting a lower level of OS, to *rent* and never own (can you turn off ads: no) and business Win10 is only available on a 1/person/year basis.
All the functionality that was in XP -- moved to the appstore, where you can repurchase it ... again and again...
Upgrade? Ha!
It's about control.
You are deflecting by blaming the users. Microsoft shouldn't have default services on in the first place!
What arrogance.
None of those 'upgrades' is enough to get me to download it.
So, when the update comes my way in a few more months, with fewer rough edges after the microsoft personel apha tested it, the insiders beta-1 tested it and the home users beta-2 tested it, I'll be glad to be a beta-3 tester for the enterprise guys ;-)
More seriously, yes, i''l get it, but will not go out of my way to get it on April, or may, or june, or july, or...
Besides, I use a mac, this is in Bootcamp anyhow.
*** Suerte a todos y Feliz dia!
You know it turns out you don't have to do your taxes on April 17th. They can be done what's called earlier.
Sadly no. Microsoft has destroyed Windows as an operating system, and I'll not upgrade. I used to like windows and windows server, maintaining networks of windows boxes put my wife and two kids through college. I still have two windows 7 machines, neither of which receives updates or connects to the internet. One used for programming radios and other hardware, and the other for that occasional file or program that is inaccessible from 'nix. So long Microsoft, It was ok while it lasted.
Windows 7 will be my last version of Windows on any computer that I own.
MS tactics is forcing upgrades to win 10 would have been enough to put me off. However, bundling spyware and adware right in with the OS guaranteed that I would never have win 10. Right now, my employer has win 7 on our work computers but they will probably have little choice but to move to 10. My personal use on windows is pretty much just gaming and a few specialised applications which I can live without.
Linux has long been my main OS at home and I wouldn't even boot into windows monthly now. Most of my games run perfectly on Linux. While I like a couple of the MS Office applications, open source alternatives that run on Linux do just about everything that I could ever want.
I lot of friends and relatives are moving to Linux or dumping their desktop OS and moving to Android tablets because that have used Win 10 on their laptops and absolutely hated it. People are often horrified to learn that Windows 10 is spying on them. Windows is not going to die but it is losing market share.
So obviously, no, I won't be updating. Don't need that level of over the shoulder regardless of the presented bennies.
The answer is no.
General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
If you have to update anyways, have you looked into LibreOffice's features in comparison to upgrading to a newer version of Office instead?
It may turn out to not be ready for your applications, but if it is you could start people on it for cheap/free and find a software support company for it when you're ready to 'take it enterprise'.
While I had been pretty content to just let people use what they were used to using in the past, since adding the ribbon bar and breaking various cornercases with old save formats, Microsoft has really been on a downward decline in both the quality of Office and making migration between versions cheap/easy enough to warrant it in a corporate setting. LibreOffice at least tries to nominally keep the UI similiar to past revisions, even as they add options like a selectable ribbon mode for people migrating from Microsoft's.
Fuck no.
Windows 8 was a disaster.
Windows 10 is even worse.
Windows 7 forever.
How the heck does adding an option to Edge or feature to Paint qualify as an operating system update? The surround sound thing probably is tied to the OS, and the headset thing might be, too. Other than that, these are just software updates to things that people just don't need. For God's sake, deliver the OS and the apps separately. Give the apps away in the app store or, if they're really worth a damn, charge a few bucks for them....however ya want. MS knows how to do this....Office, Minecraft, etc. If people jump onto an app and it becomes the "next big thing", then GREAT! MS should spend some effort making it available to Macs and Linux users, too, and profit away. Just stop confusing updates to these applications as critical updates for the operating system. The average user out there probably isn't paying enough attention to know the difference, and making these updates appear important really just confuses the users when truly critical updates to the OS do get delivered.
...when it involves stealing my privacy and advertising to me.
Running an XP desktop and 7 laptop. Windows update disabled on both. Don't care about new features. Never saw one that helped me in any way, but it sure helps them advertise to me.
Their security updates often break something. So I secure my borders instead. If someone does get in anything of value is encrypted.
a fully featured OS that does well to secure people who just want to use it to do their dumb user crap that is entirely obtainable for free (still) and actually improves performance on older hardware
Nothing else exists that matches that, yet how many people have found the time just today to write essays and outline why they're adamantly opposed to it. what could be achieved if this collective idiocy could be harnessed for the greater good?
No.
I never knew there were win10 fanboys (re: getting marked down).
Marking someone Troll because they hurt your feelings in not a correct usage of moderation points. If only you had explained why what I said was 'untrue', or refuted it you might have some impact, but from someone who had to rescue their 80+y/o mom from a "Welcome to Windows 10" who thought MS had forced the move to win10 without even asking her.
Of course that *is* what happened to many when they tried to get out of that fake screen. If it was really an "Upgrade", why would MS feel a need to deceive people to opt in to the conversion?
Upgrades are things people want, not something you have to trick them into installing.
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience.
If this mode doesn't disable telemetry so you can keep your ping down and bandwidth optimal, then it's worthless.
Have you ever fallen asleep at the keybhanusdiog?
my PC is a workhorse. Due to MS-Office it has to be Windows. I don't really care for 7, 8 or 10. The OS the foundation for the applications.
I do not need any of the fancy stuff - just a robust platform. So I stay on 7 until no longer supported.
And by then I hope that WINE is good enought to run MS Office under Linux - or better M$ has a Linux version - yes I would even pay for it
While I do understand why many may want MS Office on Linux, I think that would be a horrible idea. MS would just bake the same telemetry features in Office for Linux. If more people would adopt the open document formats, instead of using MS's proprietary format, the world would become a better place. Adobe and Microsoft need to stay away from Linux. Open source has come a long way, some products just need more development to bring them up to commercial levels.
I dumped MS Office and Photoshop six years ago, and Outlook 1.5 years ago. Things have been very pleasant since.
Of course not. I won't be upgrading until their mythical "single user enterprise license for $7/mo" is actually available.
People keep saying this is a thing, but I have not been able to find any information about it anywhere except for a single, old, news article about "planned rollout" of the option. Someone prove me wrong with a working link to a microsoft site that I can buy said license from, right now, as a single user. Please, I'm waiting.
Why do articles hyping up Win10 features keep showing up on /. when everyone knows Microsoft is deliberately and intentionally screwing over all of their users?
Defer everything!
"Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience." -- This alone is, at least theoretically, worth the upgrade. It's so annoying to run a game in slow motion when Windows 10 Home does its upgrade/maintenance thing under the hood.
My Take On This (and I am currently running Windows 10) answers in { } after the updates and them more at the end:
1. Visual previews of tabs in Microsoft Edge. {who cares, why not fix Edge so you don't have to do 50 clicks to save a file in the proper folders because you sort your downloads, quit forcing me to save where MS wants me to. I save to a server not my local machine. Fix Edge so it does not crash I have 30 tabs open Edge crashes all the time IE works perfectly, and so does FireFox so MS should be able to fix Edge. Let me completely override Bing I don't want to use it but Edge forces me to use it. I just want to open to Google WITHOUT google or Bing search, tips or any help}
2. Edge now has built-in support for ebooks. {again who cares I already have a eBook reader that supports every format and it is not in my browser and I can sort, search, mark, etc. etc. books. Plus I can share my config on my phone an other computers. Why not work on something that is needed}
3. Microsoft Paint now lets people create models in 3D. {Huge who cares, if I am going to do 3D I will use software for that not some severely limited paint program, come on who really thought this was an idea, are you so desperate for updates ?? WTH}
4. Picture-in-Picture mode for videos. Essentially you can now have a small window with video playing on it placed on top of any other application. {again, who cares any decent video player can do this and much much much much more. This is completely unneeded}
5. Night Light: A baked in feature in Windows that will allow you to change the color and tone of display so that it doesn't pain your eyes to look at the screen at night. {Ok, stealing f.lux, great another software that works well that will be built into Windows and crippled. no thanks}
6. Dynamic Lock: The feature first requires you to pair your phone or tablet with the computer. Once done, it will automatically log you out everytime you're away from desk (or technically speaking, the device is out of the computer's proximity). {Log me out, hell no, I don't want that, lock the computer yes, but not log out I am working on projects and I leave my computers (yes more than 1 or 2 more like 10) on all the time I only lock them and that is it.}
7. Native support for surround sound. {Maybe, I don't know, many are not connecting computers to TV's and Home Sound systems anymore, we have built in software for this now-a-days, again maybe ??}
8. Ability to scribble and make notes on Microsoft's Maps app. {another beyond who cares}
9. Game mode: It "ensures" your computer is always maximizing its resources for an optimal gaming experience. {I can see this, ok, good idea}
10. Built-in support for mixed reality handsets. {Ok}
Why not fix things that are needed:
1) Fix Edge, crashing issues, save as issues, all the buttons in the wrong places so going between FireFox, IE, is terrible. Remove the Bing requirements, make all settings on one page or place not a few here, some in advanced and the rest are hidden or can only be changed via the registry.
2) Fix Admin access to the machines. We need to be able to RDP without logging the user out to fix the machine remotely, just like Server lets 2 people on so should Windows Workstations from 7 to 10 and later. Come help us out we have to install 3rd party software to do this. It should just be built in by now. Also fix RDP so you can log in and show a remote user how to do something, again have to use 3rd party software for this. unbelievable}
3) Windows Updates: Fix this so the user has complete control on how these are downloaded and deployed. (I understand security and I understand the need my MS to force this, but provide a warning or something when you turn things off or only want a machine to reboot every 90 days or something) Even the ability to turn it off completely. I have systems that run 24x7x365 and cannot be re-booted but at very certain times or days. Windows 10 reboots when it wants and I cannot tell it the machine is used 24x7x365 and to never reboot.
Thanks for reading...hope MS looks at this.