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Twitter Might Punish Users Who Tweet 'Learn To Code' At Laid-Off Journalists (reason.com)

Posted by BeauHD on from the vague-abusive-behavior-policies dept.

According to a report from Reason magazine, Twitter users who comment the "learn to code" advice at journalists who just lost their jobs might be treated as "abusive behavior," which is a violation of the social media site's terms of service. The rumor comes from Jon Levine, Media Editor at The Wrap. From the report: The Wrap's Jon Levine said representatives for the social media company had backed away from the position they related to him earlier, which was that the phrase "learn to code" itself constituted abusive behavior. The new position seems to be that "learn to code" is not de facto harassment, but could be considered harassment if tweeted aggressively as part of campaign to intimidate a specific user, in accordance with Twitter's somewhat vague abusive behavior policy. In an email to Reason, a Twitter spokesperson said: "Twitter is responding to a targeted harassment campaign against specific individuals -- a policy that's long been against the Twitter Rules."

Last week, journalists from BuzzFeed, HuffPost, Yahoo, AOL, and others, were let go. BuzzFeed founder and CEO, Jonah Peretti, said the company "would reduce headcount by 15%, or about 250 jobs, to around 1,100 employees globally," reports The Guardian. "At the same time, Verizon said it would trim 7% of headcount, about 800 people, from its media unit, which includes HuffPost, Yahoo and AOL. The job losses followed sales or cuts at Mic, Refinery29 and elsewhere."

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  1. hmmm.... by crgrace · · Score: 2, Insightful

    But it lets Trump abuse people all day long...

    1. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It also lets people abuse Trump supporters all day long. See: literal death threats and inciting violence against MAGA hat kid just last week.

    2. Re:hmmm.... by Dan667 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      uh, that does not make it ok. And the President of the United States should be setting the standard, not encouraging everyone to behave as shitty as he does.

    3. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      We elected an alpha male. Unfortunately for you, the experience is not going to be "pleasant" because he has a mission to burn through as much of the establishment shadow government as he can in eight years to make America great again. We didn't elect a figurehead. We didn't elect a Republican. We elected an outsider who is the biggest of a populist president since Jackson.
       
      It's for your better good, so deal with it.

    4. Re:hmmm.... by crgrace · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Crazy times we live in when a statement of fact is "flamebait".

    5. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Ah yes the famous 'your argument is invalid because of pointing out they are doing the same thing' argument. Yep that makes what they said totally invalid. You sure got them there!

    6. Re:hmmm.... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Is this not the nation where "All men are created equal"? Ahem.

      As long as they are not CIS-gender, white men... Or to the right of Mao or Stalin. Or eat meat. Or ever drove a truck. Or made a comment that could ever possibly make anyone feel uncomfortable. Other than that, yes - we're all equal. Especially if you choose to break 18 USC 1924 and are well-connected, politically - that makes you more equal than others!

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    7. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Nah we elected a con man. And it sounds like you've bought into completely to the con.

    8. Re:hmmm.... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, the famous Whataboutism. Perhaps all people should be held to the same standard. Is this not the nation where "All men are created equal"? Ahem.

      Bill and Ted said it best "Be Excellent to Each Other."

      There's always time to start.

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    9. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      Nah, con men never deliver. Trump actually does.

      - 2 Concervative Supreme Court Justices
      - Massive number of conservative federal judges
      - Bitch slap to China trade practices after decades of "professional" politicians turning a blind eye
      - Best economy - well ever actually
      - Massive cuts to ridiculous regulation and trade barriers
      - NATO members are scared enough to actually start investing in their militaries again.
      - Actually supporting Vets instead of patting them on the head and letting them die waiting on medical appointments

    10. Re:hmmm.... by jeff4747 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I'm sorry, do you need a safe space so you can talk about it?

    11. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I voted for Hillary, so you can exclude me, and well, the majority of the people who voted.

      "We" did collectively vote for Trump. Despite your personal vote, in a democracy, the winner is who we as a nation voted for. You may not like the result, but he is your President as the result of the election by the rules of the election. Had Clinton won, you'd surely be saying that "we" voted for her and that she's our President. Your bigoted hatred does not make the hypocrisy of your statements any less.

      In your attempt to show your superiority, you're showing your complete ignorance. You show complete lack of understanding how our Republic works and why. You show no concept of reality by trying to claim illegitimacy by mentioning the popular vote when no one can say how the election would have turned out had the rules been different. Campaigns would have been different. The issues put forth would have been different. Even people in states that heavily lean one way may have voted differently (or actually voted).

    12. Re: hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Actually the majority of people voted for Bernie before Hilary, but the DNC made the choice for you.

    13. Re:hmmm.... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      I miss sarcasm and irony tags, so ... you really believe that, do you?

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    14. Re:hmmm.... by f3rret · · Score: 1

      Because he apparently doesn't like dudes who work with Communication & Information Systems.

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    15. Re:hmmm.... by Tsolias · · Score: 1

      I don't want to argue with idiots, so I'll leave this here.

      Yikes, libtards... smh.

    16. Re:hmmm.... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1, Flamebait

      Shh, it's not nice to point out somebody's Hippocratic behavior unless its Trumps. You know, judging him on skin color, appearance, and abnormalities. Or so serviscope_minor would like us to believe. He only wants equality for *his* people.

    17. Re: hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Youre confused. Trump isnt the one bowing to foreign dictators.

    18. Re:hmmm.... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      That's correct.

      Another thing that happens is that television networks and print media report on the things he says.

      It's almost as though being President of the United States gives some sort of special privileges.Who'd have thought?

    19. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      when it ain't broken

      Please identify which of the list provided by AC isn't true, wasn't broken? Everything listed are things that have changed and changed in a way that significantly benefits America and her citizens.

    20. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      ... the President of the United States should be setting the standard, not encouraging everyone to behave as shitty as he does.

      Funny, I thought it was Hillary who was telling people to be uncivil:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzXS8r4SpnQ

      And I'm pretty sure it was Maxine Wauters who was encouraging people to harass Trump supporters in the streets:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VVfXfb7ukY

      What was it that Trump said again? Oh right, he wants a united America, not one that's divided by petty squabbling:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATFwMO9CebA

      It's like you fucking retards can't even pay attention to the politics you claim to be so involved in.

      I posted those links from Canada. FUCKING CANADA. I'm paying attention to the details and it's not even my own fucking garbage that's on fire, so what in the fuck is your malfunction?

    21. Re:hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      no one expected the economy to do well. not obama, his administration, or people that laughed when he was going to get more than 2%.

      yea, but it's obama that did it.

    22. Re:hmmm.... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

      Is it 'better the con you see than the one you don't' time?

      Or did you like it when that all was happening virtually unopposed? Me, I like it when the philosophy I reject is being rejected and overthrown. Those that support that philosophy, though, even resort to direct violence in response. War? Molon Labe.

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    23. Re:hmmm.... by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Bill and Ted said it best "Be Excellent to Each Other."

      In the new sequel they're going to revise it to "Be Excellent to Anyone Higher On The Oppression Pyramid Than You."

      The Oppression Pyramid. Awesome - That is my new touchstone!!!

      Wait..... I web searched - and it's real. Jezzuz H Kryste.

      So many crazy humans - so few Chicxulub meteors.

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    24. Re:hmmm.... by cyberchondriac · · Score: 2

      Hopefully you're just being facetious for a laugh, but it's hard to tell this day and age.

      But to answer anyway: as far as I can tell, he wasn't shaking, crying, screaming at the sky, or seeking literal counseling. He simply stated the modern day situation as he sees it and pointed out some hypocrisies.
      When 'progressives' seriously attempt to equate the two enormously different reactions to 'throw it back in their face' it's just beyond absurd, it's kind of the equivalent to "I'm rubber and you're glue" in maturity as well as effectiveness.

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    25. Re: hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Youre confused. Trump isnt the one bowing to foreign dictators.

      No, he only takes their word over the assessment of his own intelligence agencies.

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    26. Re:hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      Is it 'better the con you see than the one you don't' time?

      Or did you like it when that all was happening virtually unopposed? Me, I like it when the philosophy I reject is being rejected and overthrown. Those that support that philosophy, though, even resort to direct violence in response. War? Molon Labe.

      Agreed. Good thing the Justice Dept is taking apart Trump's organization one person at a time. If Trump wanted Hillary locked up, he should have hired her to work on his campaign.

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    27. Re:hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      Is this not the nation where "All men are created equal"? Ahem.

      As long as they are not CIS-gender, white men... Or to the right of Mao or Stalin. Or eat meat. Or ever drove a truck. Or made a comment that could ever possibly make anyone feel uncomfortable. Other than that, yes - we're all equal. Especially if you choose to break 18 USC 1924 and are well-connected, politically - that makes you more equal than others!

      Is 18 USC 1924 the one that gets you into the champagne unit of the TANG and then lets you go AWOL to work on your dad's campaign? Or is it the one that finds a doctor that will diagnose you with bone spurs so you don't have to go to Vietnam?

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    28. Re:hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 2

      Funny how you think it's fine to mock oppression when it's happening to white men. I wonder how you would feel if someone started calling women and minorities delicate for complaining about being oppressed too. No, let's not kid ourselves, I don't have to wonder at all. You would be screaming "Racism!" and "Nazi!" so loud you would wake your neighbors.

      But it's okay when YOU do it, right? Cause that's different.

      And yet I bet your delicate sensibilities are triggered by something as mild as someone daring to say "It's okay to be white" in your earshot.

      It's funny because white men have historically, and in the present, had advantages in society purely because of the color of their skin. Now that their dominant position is being encroached upon by women and people of other skin colors, some of them cry oppression. White men are not oppressed in American society; not by a long shot.

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    29. Re: hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      You're mentally ill. Do you realize that? No, of course you don't, otherwise you'd be seeking help instead of insanely comparing support for the president with the KKK.

      Your mental illness has allowed you to be brainwashed by DNC bullshit. They need little minions to help carry out their plans of overthrow, and you are allowing them to use you as one of their pawns. Everything they've fed you about Trump is propaganda, and you're parroting it just as they've told you to. In the meantime, you fail to see the real enemy.

      All part of the plan.

      Dude, members of the KKK literally endorsed Donald Trump. https://www.vox.com/2017/8/12/...

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    30. Re:hmmm.... by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      no one expected the economy to do well. not obama, his administration, or people that laughed when he was going to get more than 2%.

      You mean the economy that was doing about as well under Obama as it is now? Trump loved to tweet about stock market records, but a 10-year graph of the Dow will show a pretty consistent rise in performance. There was a short blip in 2011, a year-long pause from late 2015 - late 2016, and another pause from Feb 2018 - today. These bull markets do not last forever though -- this is the longest on record. I would expect a "correction" and transition to bear market soon. I doubt there's actually anything the President could do about it either.

    31. Re:hmmm.... by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

      No, if you look at CDP per capita charts it very clearly shows an upward trend starting in 2012. Who cares about the markets?

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    32. Re:hmmm.... by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      A recession caused by rate increases that should have happened no more than 5 years after the massive stimulus packages in 2008-9. However somehow the Fed saw the need to just keep putting those off until Obama was out of office and a republican was in the White House. Funny that.

    33. Re:hmmm.... by ravenshrike · · Score: 1

      Given the different voting laws and even different weather conditions in various states the popular vote means exactly dick in a nationwide election. If you weren't such a complete fucking moron you would understand that.

    34. Re:hmmm.... by Citizen+of+Earth · · Score: 1

      You're going to need to revise that to "3 Concervative Supreme Court Justices" pretty soon, as Ginsberg's death watch is on 20 days with no proof-of-life. Trump should personally invite her to the SOTU Address. Either she shows up or she's impeachably incapacitated.

    35. Re:hmmm.... by Killall+-9+Bash · · Score: 1

      A bigger joke than Obama getting a Nobel peace prize, right before expanding Bush's "War on Terror"...?

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    36. Re:hmmm.... by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      That's correct.

      Another thing that happens is that television networks and print media report on the things he says.

      Yes, they do... with an editorial filter, sufficient spin and nuance to fit their biases and narratives, and oh yeah - omissions of any brutally contradictory fact: you know, for 'brevity'. Afterwards, they toss on a megaton of opinion-makers and talking heads to either bury or twist the original message.

      Mind, this is just as true of Fox News as it is of MSNBC or CNN.

      Twitter (or, well, any popular social media, really) allows the President (or any other sufficiently-followed figure, really) to get their own message out. You get it raw, unfiltered, and without spin, nuance, or (usually) modification to fit a prevailing narrative.

      It's certainly a two-edged sword for the President (e.g. reference to 'Congressman Shitt' was hilarious, but debasing to the office), but I bet there's more than a few ideology-mongers out there who would much prefer to regain the unquestioned control that they once had over their narratives. You know, for your own (and their advertisers') good.

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    37. Re:hmmm.... by bigdavex · · Score: 1

      The economy is running on the afterburners of deficit spending. If the economy is running the best ever, shouldn't we be running a surplus or at least a shrinking deficit? Borrowing money to stimulate the economy certainly "works" but at the expense of greater interest payments. That's why responsible governments shrink the deficit in good times.

      In FY 2018 the federal deficit was 3.9 percent of GDP.

      This year, FY 2019, the federal government in its latest budget has estimated that the deficit will be 4.7 percent of GDP.

      https://www.usgovernmentdebt.u...

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    38. Re: hmmm.... by eaglesrule · · Score: 1

      So by linking to blatant anti-Trump propaganda made by one of the most egregious DNC mouthpieces, you just help prove AC's point. Thanks.

    39. Re:hmmm.... by 91degrees · · Score: 1

      I was being a little snarky, but ultimately a lot of people want to see what the President has to say. This is not just his fans. I want to know what the guy has to say even though I think he's a complete fool.

      He's also someone who can be made a special case of. The fact that the US president is on twitter is a selling point for the platform. As such twitter can justify the cost of considering a special case, and consider how seriously he might mean what he says, and how seriously he might be taken.

    40. Re: hmmm.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "I trust russia more than I trust CIA or FBI"
      That's because you're a bigger fucking idiot than Trumplethinskin

    41. Re:hmmm.... by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      How is that James Baker testimony working out for you?

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      Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
    42. Re: hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      He doesn't believe the assessments made by the people who tricked us into invading Iraq? Amazing.

      You really think that's what happened, that the CIA "tricked" us into invading Iraq? No wonder you back this clown.

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    43. Re: hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      Damn dude, after that list this is the best you could do?

      It was plenty.

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    44. Re: hmmm.... by Shotgun · · Score: 1

      Dude, who did Louis Farrakan endorse?

      There is more that one racist group in this country, you know.

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      Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
    45. Re: hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      I trust russia more than I trust CIA or FBI. Fuck the deep state, and fuck anyone implying that getting a foreign 2nd opinion on anything is unpatriotic. Shove that stupid stateist propaganda up your dumb snowflake ass.

      Why would you trust either one?

      Look man, Guccifer 2.0 was outed as a Russian intelligence front by the Dutch intelligence services. They are the ones who told the CIA and NSA about the Russian hacking of the DNC. They literally watched the operatives walking in and out of the building that housed the Internet Research Agency. Are the Dutch part of the Deep State too? Facebook has admitted that they were used by Russian actors to influence US popular opinion, both on the left and the right. It is also well known that Putin really hates Hillary Clinton. Trump should know all this.

      But Trump asked Putin about his government running operations against the US, and Putin said they didn't. That was good enough for Trump! He literally took the word of the guy who is accused over the researched and substantiated assessment of the US intelligence agencies. It's ridiculous.

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      "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
    46. Re: hmmm.... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Likely four, Thomas isn't going to repeat Ginsburg's mistake. He will resign a be replaced by a younger conservate.

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    47. Re:hmmm.... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Vote Pony Party! Vote Hippocracy! Vote Vermin Supreme 2020!

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    48. Re: hmmm.... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Thank dog!

      You can go cry in the corner now, accept the 2nd amendment will be healthy on your dying day, then go cry some more.

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    49. Re:hmmm.... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      You called post 2000 dotcom1.0 the Clinton recession? No? I'm shocked.

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    50. Re: hmmm.... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      All VPs since Quayle have been assassination insurance (worse than the president).

      Which is why Hillary was never VP, that would have been assassination assurance, despite being worse.

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    51. Re:hmmm.... by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Supreme Court members are under no obligation to attend.

      Many think it is actually unseemly as this is political theater by the two political branches.

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    52. Re:hmmm.... by budgenator · · Score: 1

      The word you are trying to use is hypocritical not hippocratic. There's more than enough hypocrisy for both sides of the isle.

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    53. Re:hmmm.... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Yea early morning posting does not bring my A game, D at best. NFI, I cant even asplain what happened there.. .

    54. Re: hmmm.... by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure it is involved in every presidential election. I could be wrong though. I am high..

    55. Re: hmmm.... by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

      You really think that's what happened, that the CIA "tricked" us into invading Iraq? No wonder you back this clown.

      As opposed to the other side which is trying to convince us that boys can become girls and girls can become boys? No thanks... I'm not a huge fan of Trump, I think he could do better, and I think he's gotten some things correct, but I try to give him the benefit of the doubt. But, the other side is absolutely fucking loony. Not to mention the fact that the extreme left is the biggest bunch of racists I've ever personally met.. It's either "white people are the source of all the worlds problems" or it's "We have to look out for minorities because they can't stand up for themselves and need a bunch of white leftists to be their voice". Both are insulting... You don't combat racism with more racism.

    56. Re: hmmm.... by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      I'm going to have to call you out on that one. Where are these death threats Twitter hasn't removed? Show me.

    57. Re:hmmm.... by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 1

      No, it's about running to Canada and then taking and no properly storing State secrets...

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    58. Re:hmmm.... by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Much bigger

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    59. Re: hmmm.... by kilfarsnar · · Score: 1

      And because someone in the KKK endorsed Trump everyone who endorses Trump is in the KKK. Got it. Perfectly sane reasoning there.

      I'm not saying Trump is racist. I'm saying racists think Trump is racist.

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    60. Re: hmmm.... by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The NRA sold us out a long time before that. You should be a GOA member, keeping the NRA membership is optional.

      Your never going to get through the next six years, unless you reconnect to reality.

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    61. Re: hmmm.... by sound+vision · · Score: 1

      Nothing to back it up with, as usual

  2. Covenginton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Tweeting "Learn to code" is harassment.
    However, giving death threats to high school kids who are attacked by racists is acceptable.

    Got it. Punishing people based on political views is acceptable.
    Thanks liberals for letting us know how "tolerant" you all are.

    1. Re:Covenginton by Obfuscant · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Tweeting "Learn to code" is harassment.

      No, it isn't. The summary itself contradicts the flamebait headline:

      representatives for the social media company had backed away from the position they related to him earlier, which was that the phrase "learn to code" itself constituted abusive behavior.

      So tweeting "learn to code" is not harassment. Tweeting it a thousand times would be. Tweeting "have a nice day" a thousand times would be, too. Whatever else is or is not harassment, this is just /. flamebait describing a complicated circumstance in a trivial way and then claiming a trivial act is being punished unfairly.

    2. Re:Covenginton by cavreader · · Score: 1

      I weep for the future. "learn to code" is just good career advice. It's good advice for those already coding and those wanting to start coding.

    3. Re:Covenginton by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Liberals tend to be more intolerant than conservatives. Those who shout and scream the most for "tolerance" are, in fact, the least tolerant among us...

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    4. Re:Covenginton by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      thousand times to same guy or different guys?

      it's just solid advice..

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    5. Re:Covenginton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      So tweeting "learn to code" is not harassment. Tweeting it a thousand times would be.

      Except they aren't banning people who are tweeting that one thousand times, they are banning people who are tweeting it once, which is a lot less than the number of harassing Covington tweets some people have made.

    6. Re:Covenginton by Jarwulf · · Score: 4, Informative

      They've banned people already for simply tweeting the phrase. They banned people simply for having the NPC meme in their profile. Cutting and pasting the spokeshole talking point doesn't make him wrong.

    7. Re:Covenginton by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      Maybe the Twitter devs are just afraid of all that competition.

    8. Re:Covenginton by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Well time for a bit of reality. Why is tweeting, 'learn to code to Journalists mean', well, it wasn't that long back I was in Uni and was forced to do computing 101, talk about a gimme subject, well, for some. For the computer literate and plus 125 crowd easy for the rest, well, they were Liberal arts students and struggled and that was it for computer coding for them, oh they wanted too alright, just that they couldn't. Seriously the fake social justice journos, were not journalists at all, just screaming social justice fakers, waffling divide and conquer propagandistic shite, really low class, writers. Those individuals are incapable of learning how to code, just they way it is, they have already tried and failed, hence taking up those fake journo roles, paid to bullshit, that they could do.

      Being a good journalists is hard work, they are incapable of it, coding is intellectual beyond them, don't be mean and do what they did to blue collar workers, those fake journos were dicks when they told blue colour workers to learn to code and this is the real reason, they are now being told to learn to code because they were being dicks when they did and now they don't like it.

      There was a moment in history, when those fake news rags, were a thing, pretend to be left, run all the left meaningless fluff pieces, identity shite and the rest and when it came to real polices, economic, foreign etc. all far right, backing the corporations all the way, either by censoring negative information or straight up lying.

      So the charade failed over time, people realised only fluff pieces came from the left and they hard right backed the corporations on real issues every single time and people abandoned them because they were fake, lying, scummy cunts who purposefully set up those media sites as shams, appear left as camouflage whilst being far right corporatists in reality, all done for profit and fuck the rest of humanity.

      Fuck those fake arse, lying quisling stooges, they were not journalists, they were divide and conquer quislings for the shadow government and they didn't work that well, they did not shift public opinion enough for the public to wish to enslave itself to the corporations and they are being fired. My message to them, not learn to code, learn to eat the bullshit you tried to feed to us.

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    9. Re: Covenginton by astrofurter · · Score: 1

      'Thanks liberals for letting us know how "tolerant" you all are.'

      Those people are not liberals. They are corporate progressives. They hate real liberals just as much as they hate everything else.

    10. Re:Covenginton by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      There's actually a lot of evidence of those screaming for tolerance are the least tolerant. Take saying "Merry Christmas" as an example. Those that are offended by it are offended because they're intolerant of Christians. If you move to a community that is 90% Christian, you should expect that those people will be outwardly displaying their culture. Those that are intolerant of the culture they knowingly inserted themselves in, decide to call the majority intolerant for not giving up their own identities to appease the minority. A minority, that doesn't want to be exposed to a different culture than their own. Yet they expect to be able to keep all their own customs and culture. The SJW self pity squad then sides with the real intolerants because they feel better when they belittle themselves. It's a mental illness.

    11. Re:Covenginton by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Tweeting "Learn to code" is harassment.

      Well, no. Even TFS admits that the headline is bullshit.

      It can be part of a sustain harassment campaign, sure. Get thousands of followers to tweet it at the target. But on its own? No.

      It's worrying that people can't see the difference between a genuinely helpful suggestion made in good faith and trolling. Apparently Twitter can, but TFA seems to be being obtuse to make a non-story into something.

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    12. Re:Covenginton by lgw · · Score: 4, Insightful

      People are being banned for tweeting "learn to code" just once. It's just a lot of people have offered the same advice. And not only to journalists.

      And of course this meme didn't come from no where: it's the exact advice these journalists gave to laid-off coal miners a few years ago. So, it's fine when the left dishes it out, but banworthy when the left receives it.

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    13. Re:Covenginton by lgw · · Score: 1

      Get thousands of followers to tweet it at the target.

      Do you know what a meme is? No one was coordinating this. Thousands of people just found the same joke funny. Journalists were telling laid off coal miners to "learn to code" just a few years ago, let's give them their own advice now. Karma is such a bitch.

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    14. Re:Covenginton by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      But it's bad advice to someone who has no aptitude or affinity to coding. We already have enough cargo-cult programmers that can do barely more than copy/paste code from stackexchange.

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    15. Re:Covenginton by Spamalope · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Haven't journalists been (as at least a rough paraphrase) saying 'learn to code' whenever blue collar jobs are lost, so this is really a 'lets see how you like your own medicine' type of response?

    16. Re:Covenginton by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      If it's just memes posted unprompted the fine, go ahead. They do kinda deserve it and it's completely fair. Wouldn't dispute that.

      And neither would Twitter I think, given the response they gave in TFA.

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    17. Re:Covenginton by rundgong · · Score: 1

      Isn't this a bit like a DDoS attack though?
      Everyone is doing something that by itself *looks* innocent, but if you look at the aggregate for the receiver it is clear that it is not.

      If they have already received 783 tweets with "learn to code", nobody with good intentions will send the same exact "career advice" again.

    18. Re:Covenginton by sheramil · · Score: 2

      Tweeting "Learn to code" is harassment.

      How about tweeting "Learn to write"? I swear, if I see another blog entry masquerading as "journalism" that starts with "HAY GUESS WAT?", I will punch someone, not an easy task for an habitual loner.

    19. Re:Covenginton by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      I weep for the future. "learn to code" is just good career advice.

      There are already programmers sitting around unemployed right now because it's cheaper to hire someone else. I don't think that it is good career advice. Going into psych is probably the best plan, there's a ton of people who want to be reassured that things aren't as bad as they really are.

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    20. Re:Covenginton by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Liberals tend to be more intolerant than conservatives.

      Your link neither shows that, nor claims to. It speaks only to political intolerance, i.e. intolerance of political views. But liberals are more tolerant of literally everything else than conservatives. Pay attention!

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    21. Re:Covenginton by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      You don't know that, because Twitter doesn't explain the precise reasoning behind the ban.

      When you look at these accounts you inevitably find them flirting with getting banned over and over again until something finally got them booted, at which point they claim it was the most trivial thing they ever did and nothing to do with all the other shitposting.

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    22. Re:Covenginton by sinij · · Score: 4, Insightful

      This is bridge too far. You are assuming that Twitter has resources to monitor on-going behavior and make a complex and nuanced "body of work" determinations for a massive amount of people. Do you have any idea how expensive such moderation would be to implement?

      Instead, I propose that simpler explanation is that Twitter bans people arbitrary, based on instances of snowflake meltdowns and reporting backed up by a hasty review by ideologically-driven moderators that results in very clear anti-conservative bias.

    23. Re:Covenginton by penandpaper · · Score: 2, Funny

      *looks left, right, and behind*
      *clears throat*

      HAY GUESS WAT!!!!!

      *Runs*

    24. Re:Covenginton by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      In one instance, I fear I will be physically attacked and harassed. In the other, I might get some jeers and scowling looks.

      Guess you were never a Top Gear fan. The South has a long history of violence which you're willfully ignoring, and their intolerance and violence persist to this day. Are you a total idiot, or a useful idiot? There's no third option.

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    25. Re:Covenginton by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      ALL 8 year olds independent of whether it interests them or whether they think a dump is what they do in the toilet?

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    26. Re: Covenginton by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      When trying to show that certain things are and certain things are not, there are only two possible starting points: Either assuming that nothing is until you show its existence, or assuming that everything is possible until shown to be impossible.

      I would suggest the former starting point. Especially if religious, and twice so if monotheistic. Else you're facing the problem of disproving the existence of Ra, Thor, Allah, Krishna, Jehova, Hanuman, Baal Hammon, Toutatis, Xipe Totec, Ashur, Sol Invictus, ...

      Of course you may leave out whatever deity you happen to worship.

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    27. Re:Covenginton by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      So please elaborate on the difference between a delusion, a cult and a religion, aside of the number of afflicted.

      Imagine there was no Judaism (or Christianity for that matter), what would you say to someone who tells you that he believes that there is an invisible being that watches every step he does, has some rather bizarre rules to judge you by and will torture you for eternity after you die if you, say, eat shellfish, wear two different fabrics at the same time or eat a cheeseburger?

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    28. Re:Covenginton by tungstencoil · · Score: 1

      "But it's bad advice to someone who has no aptitude or affinity to coding"

      Fucking 8-year olds can learn some goddamned basic ladder logic and be programming conveyor lines for $60K a year. If adult journalists with a better education can't do that, then they're simply fucked.

      I find it difficult to believe that you actually believe this. At least, I hope not.

      Let's break it down, just in case you do... All 8-year-olds? Nope. Basic ladder logic as a (complete, holistic, everything-you-can-do) skill in demand enough to say that it's a viable on its own? Nope.

      How about a little more? Would people with these... ahem... minimal skills make their way into the "non-conveyor-line" market? Probably. Do we see enough "Learn to Code in X weeks!"-type folks flooding the market? Yup. Assuming you're in tech, do you work with some miserable person who can barely but adequately cobble together some cut-and-paste functionality and send it down the pipe, only to have it cause problems later? Probably.

      No, 'learn to code' isn't appropriate for everyone. It's not a floor measurement for people's aptitude in life or the job market in general. Different people are good at different things. Is this really that difficult?

    29. Re: Covenginton by terrycarlino · · Score: 1

      Actually there is a large group of liberals in the U.S. And they are getting tired of the radical progressive left, which is why all of these "journalist" are out of work now. Real liberals have discovered what the right has known all along. You can't work with progressives. They are intolerant, they don't compromise, in all ways they eat their young, figuratively speaking. They're bad for the country and holding back real reform in a number of areas

      I specifically monitor more than a few real liberal journalists. They quickly pointed out that the Covington kids were set up by people who edited the video and a know liar. They called out the major media who passed the story along and called out the SJW haters that were inciting violence against innocent high schooners.

      They were, of course, mostly ignored by mainstream media, until the right wing started to report the same thing. Because when people are getting the same facts from both liberals and conservatives it becomes obvious the MSM is in bed with the progressives and untrustworthy. So people stop going to the progressive sites and MSM for news. They aren't going to go to the right wing media either. So the radical left wing sites are dying and more moderate liberals are creating their own news sites on YouTube and online, where they can find news they can trust to be factual.

    30. Re:Covenginton by sinij · · Score: 1

      You contradicting yourself. If they have "any notes made by other moderators", then this fits definition of on-going monitoring. If they have single "incident" and then they dig through history to justify bans, then it is arbitrary enforcement.

    31. Re:Covenginton by Mashiki · · Score: 2

      Not from on-going monitoring, from prior user-submitted complaints. Maybe they have been banned or asked to delete tweets before, that kind of thing.

      Why don't you go look through some of the people who threatened/demanded/doxed the Covington kids. Many of them have very long histories of abusive actions(open threats, doxing, harassment, stalking, etc) of other people, that have been reported to twitter and twitter has done nothing. The sad fact is you can without much trouble find user reports against those accounts where twitter "didn't find any ToS violations." All it really says is that the people who investigate these abusive cases are perfectly fine with some types of abuse if they're 'against the right kind ideological enemies.' The current game of TERF vs non-TERF is a good example of this if you want to see it in action.

      But one only has to take a look over the last 4 years to see what's happened. If you don't fall in line with the current progressive groupthink, twitter will come after your account for the smallest infraction. Even if you're directly quoting some progressive threatening, harassing and/or doxing someone. But leave the original tweets up.

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    32. Re:Covenginton by sinij · · Score: 2

      I disagree with you fundamentally, and I think that trying to convince you that this is a serious ongoing issue with dire downstream societal consequences is futile as you are too closely ideologically aligned with Twitter to clearly see the issue.

      Consider the following hypothetical situation. In an alternative universe Twitter was invented during Jim Crow period and is controlled by "Southern Strategy" types. These people are using biased moderation, shadow banning and so on to enforce their agenda.
      Two questions: 1) can you identify anything in how Twitter currently governed or operates that would make that scenario impossible 2) What would you change (e.g. laws, ToS) that would mitigate the worst abuses ?

    33. Re:Covenginton by Obfuscant · · Score: 1

      They've banned people already for simply tweeting the phrase.

      Then it isn't "they might", now is it?

      Cutting and pasting the spokeshole talking point doesn't make him wrong.

      Cutting and pasting his talking point neither makes him wrong nor makes him right. It IS the point of the article, however. Twitter is not saying they might punish people just for tweeting "learn to code", they are saying they won't treat it as 'abusive behaviour'. It contradicts the headline, and the summary contains nothing that supports a claim of "might" -- future tense possibility.

    34. Re:Covenginton by Shotgun · · Score: 2

      Being willfully ignorant about an event that was part of a national discussion for days, and then lying about it on message boards is not okay.

      The kids weren't racist, and they "Native person" attacked them (in the sense that he aggressively moved into their space . . . and getting in someone's face and beating a drum is agressive...as well as weird).

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    35. Re:Covenginton by sheramil · · Score: 1

      (pleading) at least tell me you know what the inverted pyramid lead is!

    36. Re:Covenginton by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      If you can hate the sin and love the sinner, why don't you think I can hate the religion and love the religious?

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    37. Re:Covenginton by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      That sounds interesting, where is it permitted to assault someone wearing a red hat with the intent to murder?

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    38. Re:Covenginton by Obfiscator · · Score: 1

      If you left the comment on the feed of a journalist who said that about the miners, I might laugh at that; "just desserts" can be rewarding, as we see time and again in movies.

      If you left that comment on the feed of a journalist who never said that, I think that's being a jerk. It's a mistake to hold person A responsible for the actions of person B when person A had nothing to do with it, even if they share the same label.

      And if you were a coal miner who got fired, saw that reporter B made a comment about learning to code, then got fired...and you offered sympathy to reporter B instead of throwing their words back at them? You would have my admiration and respect. Okay, might not mean much if you're unemployed, but tweeting "Learn to code" at someone isn't going to help your employment status, anyway.

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    39. Re:Covenginton by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 1

      Seems like you're just annoyed because he's 100% correct and additionally your broadly general links don't really prove shit about his specific scenario (in fact both are unhelpful to your argument if you actually were to bother to read them). Furthermore you sound like a partisan shill, looking to blow smoke and create distractions when the truth is pretty clear to any non-partisan with a smidge of common sense.

    40. Re:Covenginton by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      Sigh. Mashiki and his sock puppets arrived and started modding.

      Gotta be about the most childish thing I've read from a person who claims they're an adult in the last year. Maybe it's time for you to realize that your views are inherently regressive and people have had enough. Besides, if I actually had more then one account I could access...I'd be posting with my 4-UID one that I lost years ago when AT&T Canada shutdown.

      Ask me again when he goes away.

      Or, you could ask yourself the hard question: "Are my views really so backwards that the majority of people disagree with me?" But that requires introspection, and questioning one's own point of view. Something that you refuse to do even when proof is laid out right in front of you.

      You're going to have to grow up sometime or another, and going by the state of the UK. You'd be better off doing it now.

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    41. Re:Covenginton by sinij · · Score: 1

      You're going to have to grow up sometime or another, and going by the state of the UK. You'd be better off doing it now.

      In modern society there is absolutely no requirement to have your worldviews to have any kind of predictive power or even correlation with reality. As long as you don't get into toxic cleansing or extreme diets like frutarian.

      My prediction that AmiMojo will continue living happily disconnected life by masterfully avoiding cognitive dissonance of his strange views.

    42. Re:Covenginton by sinij · · Score: 1

      Ask me again when he goes away.

      I read at -1 and will see your replies regardless of moderation.

    43. Re:Covenginton by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      He says as he swings a noose around at the next Lynnwood Klan meeting.

      The clan was the activist arm of the Democrats in the South. The Antifa of its day. Democrats are the party of slavery. Democrats are the party of the KKK. Democrats are the party of Jim Crow.

      That's a cool story, but do you have anything that isn't say, fifty years out of date?

    44. Re:Covenginton by Kyr+Arvin · · Score: 1

      Do you know what a meme is? No one was coordinating this.

      Memes aimed at one person by thousands are harassment.

  3. Manners, people! by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 4, Funny

    Learn to code!...please?

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  4. Well... by TimMD909 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ... If they learned to code, they'd better understand the algorithms they tried to exploit with rage for more views... Jus' sayin'...

  5. What? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

    This is a policy that only applies to laid-off journalists?
    I feel like I'm missing something here.

    1. Re:What? by mukinrestak · · Score: 5, Informative

      You probably need the context then. Recently an arseload of mostly left-leaning journalists from left-leaning websites got laid-off (specifically Huffington Post and that bastion of integrity and probity Buzzfeed). Right wing Twitter users thought back to when Obama told laid-off coal miners that they should just learn to code, and decided that what's good for the goose is good for the gander. They then proceeded to start mocking the laid-off journalists with the same advice. The left-leaning journalists got their feefees hurt and started whining to mummy Twitter to make the mean words stop.

    2. Re:What? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Did Obama really say that? I can't find a reference to it and it's an uncharacteristically dumb thing to say

    3. Re:What? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Whether Obama said it or not, the sentiment has been around for a while.

      A lot of people there were really optimistic that the solution to technological unemployment was to teach unemployed West Virginia truck drivers to code so they could participate in the AI revolution. I used to think this was a weird straw man occasionally trotted out by Freddie deBoer, but all these top economists were *super enthusiastic* about old white guys whose mill has fallen on hard times founding the next generation of nimble tech startups.

      http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/02/06/notes-from-the-asilomar-conference-on-beneficial-ai/

      It's a hard-hearted lack of sympathy. Working class stiffs from Middle America get told to fuck off and learn to code because the coasts are eliminating their jobs with globalism.

      When I was young, most people in the upper half were perfectly willing to respect those in the bottom half, and some people (leftists) practically worshipped them. Today, it is vastly different. Remarks calling working class "deplorables" and worse have become quite common today on the left. Leftists say that working class are racist, misogynistic, intolerant, etc. In reality, they are the bigots and not middle America.

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    4. Re:What? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      They're not being told to fuck off, they're being given opportunities to retrain for better jobs. I don't remember Obama saying "learn to code" but I do remember him talking about retraining coal miners for factory jobs. Trump isn't doing anything for appalachia and those jobs are going away at some point anyway.

      And when HRC talks about deplorables she's not talking about coal miners, she's talking about coal-rollers -> those douchebags who make their pickups extra pollutey so they can trigger liberals. Nobody is saying it's all of middle america but yes you have some real assholes among you.

    5. Re:What? by lgw · · Score: 2, Informative

      Yes, she was call all Trump supporters, roughly half the country, the Nazi sympathising fringe of the Alt-right. That was very much understood, and won't soon be forgotten.

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    6. Re:What? by LostMyAccount · · Score: 1

      It wasn't just political handwaving. It's been the standard attitude among economists all along. They've been cheerleading offshoring and other rapid deindustrialization with a message that boils down to people will get better jobs, like coding.

      I mean, they're probably right in the long term / macroeconomic perspective (we can have the AI/unemployment/basic income debate later), but almost none of them acknowledged that most existing workers losing their jobs will wind up with worse employment or none at all. I'm aware of almost no economist who supported taxing the corporate windfall of offshoring/H1Bs to support job training or other long-term support programs. It was an ignored problem, probably because to question it was to second guess the economic righteousness of free markets.

      IMHO, the biggest failing of economics is its perverse desire to be seen as a science devoid of politics or social impact. It ends up becoming a tone-deaf cheerleader for corporate policies.

    7. Re:What? by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 1
      So a coal mining man with calloused, bearpaw hands is going to sit in front of a computer and compete with Achmed and Nasheem for IT jobs?

      Assholes among us, eh? A single car making pollution? Tell me, how many in middle America get to craft industrial policies that harm the planet? How many wars did we start? That's all on you, assholes. And you're getting ready for another war in Venezuela. Good job, I'm sure that will totally turn out just as well as it did for you in Iraq.

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    8. Re:What? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 2

      That would be a pretty big basket. I think you are going out of your way to misinterpret a simple sentence.

    9. Re:What? by h33t+l4x0r · · Score: 1

      Ok, now you're so all over the place I can't even tell which side you're on.
      Maybe you're beefing with the voices in your head?

    10. Re:What? by lgw · · Score: 1

      BBC, NYT, WaPo.

      Were there any reliable sources, or only the propaganda arms of the Establishment?

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    11. Re:What? by squiggleslash · · Score: 1

      Yes, she was call all Trump supporters, roughly half the country, the Nazi sympathising fringe of the Alt-right.

      This is one lie after another.

      1. She didn't call all Trump supporters deplorables. She said about half of them were.
      2. She was specifically talking about Trump supporters, not Republicans in general.
      3. Even then Republicans make up a small percentage of the electorate.

      The full quote was:

      You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trumpâ(TM)s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right? The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic - you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up. He has given voice to their websites that used to only have 11,000 people - now how 11 million. He tweets and retweets their offensive hateful mean-spirited rhetoric. Now, some of those folks â" they are irredeemable, but thankfully they are not America. But the other basket - and I know this because I see friends from all over America here - I see friends from Florida and Georgia and South Carolina and Texas - as well as, you know, New York and California - but that other basket of people are people who feel that the government has let them down, the economy has let them down, nobody cares about them, nobody worries about what happens to their lives and their futures, and theyâ(TM)re just desperate for change. It doesnâ(TM)t really even matter where it comes from. They donâ(TM)t buy everything he says, but he seems to hold out some hope that their lives will be different. They wonâ(TM)t wake up and see their jobs disappear, lose a kid to heroine, feel like theyâ(TM)re in a dead-end. Those are people we have to understand and empathize with as well.

      There is literally no way to read it as making any generalizations about ALL REPUBLICANS, or even ALL TRUMP SUPPORTERS. You have to be functionally a moron to take away that interpretation.

      Are you a moron, or are you lying because it's easier to lie than admit the person you've been taught to hate since 1992 might have been right about something?

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    12. Re:What? by Seven+Spirals · · Score: 1

      Neither truth nor opinion must cleave cleanly along partisan lines. Sometimes one needs to parse what is there and quit trying to peg someone as right or left so as to use the standard tropes as reflexive responses. Thinking > Partisanship. He didn't have to "beef" with anyone to make some statements of opinion. Free thought doesn't always read like a partisan stump speech.

  6. Abusive Behaviour by NFN_NLN · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They should just re-label "abusive behaviour" to "whatever we don't like, whenever we don't like it"

    Trash journalists didn't seem to care when blue collar workers were losing their jobs. Besides, everyone should learn how to code, learn how to file their taxes, learn to cook, learn CPR...

    1. Re:Abusive Behaviour by alexo · · Score: 1

      Besides, everyone should learn how to code, learn how to file their taxes, learn to cook, learn CPR...

      "A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyse a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."
      — Robert Heinlein, Time Enough for Love

    2. Re:Abusive Behaviour by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      "They should just re-label "abusive behaviour" to "whatever we don't like, whenever we don't like it""

      It's actually "whatever costs us money", which is why corporations are poor stewards without exception. Trump violates Twitter's ToS almost every time he twats (deliberate fraud, harassment, incitement of violence...) but they'll never terminate his account because it makes them more important. And all because they are beholden to stockholders.

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    3. Re:Abusive Behaviour by syn3rg · · Score: 1

      +1
      My favorite Heinlein quote.

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    4. Re:Abusive Behaviour by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      No, to ban Trump under some misbegotten guideline reason effectively puts them in the position of quasi-censoring political speech, the most important free speech of all. And coming from the president, like him or not.

      "We're hiding from you what th president is saying because we don't like it" is not a bragging point for a speech-based company.

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    5. Re:Abusive Behaviour by djinn6 · · Score: 1

      Yet people know how to read, shower, put on clothes and turn on the TV. Why are TV controllers not a career path? Millions of people need to turn on their TV on a daily basis.

  7. Don't want the helpful advice? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Fine, learn to suck cock then.

  8. Meanwhile feeding kids into woodchippers is AOK by Jarwulf · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You can tweet about feeding kids into a woodchipper or giving blowjobs to punch kids in the face or dox kids all day long or do any of the threatening and calls to violence that the antiMAGA crowd almost entirely got away with a few days ago and are still widely and proudly unapologetic for but tweeting 'learn to code' is going too far!

  9. These are the same people by Crashmarik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That told coal miners "Get a Uhaul and learn to code"

    Seems they really don't like having that thrown in their face.

    1. Re:These are the same people by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      That told coal miners "Get a Uhaul and learn to code"

      Seems they really don't like having that thrown in their face.

      I gotta say this very respectfully to everyone here:

      If you shit your pants because someone tells you to learn to code, be it MAGA People or thase commie journalists, or get spun up by either.

      The USA is ready to be invaded, and subsumed, because we've become a nation of utter weaklings, left or right. So many snowflakes - so precious, so fragile.

      Probably all those phytoestrogenes we've been eating.

      So everyone chillaxe, take a deep breath. Let's go get a beer.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    2. Re:These are the same people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      That told coal miners "Get a Uhaul and learn to code"

      Seems they really don't like having that thrown in their face.

      I gotta say this very respectfully to everyone here:

      If you shit your pants because someone tells you to learn to code, be it MAGA People or thase commie journalists, or get spun up by either.

      The USA is ready to be invaded, and subsumed, because we've become a nation of utter weaklings, left or right. So many snowflakes - so precious, so fragile.

      Probably all those phytoestrogenes we've been eating.

      So everyone chillaxe, take a deep breath. Let's go get a beer.

      People used to get booted off AOL, IRC rooms, message boards, email lists for all sorts of silly reasons, and even Slashdot has a built-in friend/foe blacklist system on top of the user driven moderation.

      Then we had the rise of "Web scale" crap that was just too lazy/cheap to enforce any terms of service or community standards, and that's starting to snap back. It's not weakness, it's just things moving back to being more civil.

      Seriously, nobody owes anybody else a platform. If that IRC room didn't like the cut of your jib, you found another one, or got booted by a chan operator. The fact some people feel entitled to basically a chatroom full of millions of people is pretty fucking amazing in my opinion, and not grounded with reality. I want a fair, inclusive service for everyone, but Jesus H. Christ, you don't even pay for this stuff... go make your own, it's the fucking Internet, you got booted from a chat room, grow up.

    3. Re:These are the same people by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      The fact some people feel entitled to basically a chatroom full of millions of people is pretty fucking amazing in my opinion, and not grounded with reality. I want a fair, inclusive service for everyone, but Jesus H. Christ, you don't even pay for this stuff... go make your own, it's the fucking Internet, you got booted from a chat room, grow up.

      Insightful. Having been around the internet a log time, I'm used to taking all manner of abuse. It's a big world, with all manner of people in it, with all manner of definitions of abuse. As you note, there can be millions in a room. Maybe I'm not the sharpest pencil in the box, but I do understand that there will be a lot of different opinions, and different levels of civility. What-freaking-ever.

      This whole article in Slashdot should be part of a psychological study. To me it just shows how horribly messed up a lot of people are. How utterly weak we have become.

      While the original "learn to code" was trolling, that's all it was - soundbyte type trolling. But some overly sensitive mod apparently got their panties in a bunch over it. Most likely someone who leans left on the PS. Whatever, the left has no monopoly on brittle inability to handle simple things. Cooler heads prevailed, however.

      But then the story comes here to Slashdot, and it turns out that the crypto-conservatives have a level of sensitivity at least as bad as the snowflake that caused the "Learn to Code" as abuse problem in the first place.

      Between the howaboutism, the product of weak minds that manages to do the exact opposite of what they think it is doing, and the peanut allergy level of inability to take any disagreement. We have a room full of sissies. I'm calling most out.

      Protip to both sides - If you're laid off and someone tells you to "learn to code", Thank them and tell them it is a good idea. If they were serious, they'll tell you no problem. If they were trolling you, you'll have played them and pissed them off. Nothing worse to do to a troll than play them with civility.

      Learn to code, y'all.

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    4. Re:These are the same people by worf_mo · · Score: 1

      So everyone chillaxe, take a deep breath. Let's go get a beer.

      Hah! Inviting me for a beer when you know that for "reasons" I am not allow to drink! I shall let you know that I will report you to this fine site's editors for harassment! </s>

    5. Re:These are the same people by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      So everyone chillaxe, take a deep breath. Let's go get a beer.

      Hah! Inviting me for a beer when you know that for "reasons" I am not allow to drink! I shall let you know that I will report you to this fine site's editors for harassment! </s>

      Does this mean I have to be fired?

      --
      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    6. Re:These are the same people by Ol+Olsoc · · Score: 1

      Or maybe just follow the long-age adage of "if you can't take it, don't dish it."

      These journalists are just now realizing the gravity of the very words they threw at these people years ago.

      You're playing the game, AC.

      Okay, let me illustrate how this works. You gloat about the journalists "learning their lesson"

      Someone chimes in with how butthurt the conservatives were when the Kenyan terror baby was elected, then how they went nuts the second time.

      Then someone notes how at least Dubya was honest.

      Then someone makes a Darth Cheney Dig

      Then someone will note that the Neocons are just Trotskyites

      Then someone will note about Bill Clinton being a lecher getting oral sex in the white house

      Then someone will mention how Trump grabs e'm by the Pussy and pays Pornoo actresses to shut their mouths

      Then someone will make fun of Bush 1's Read my lips and turning Broccoli into a bad thing.

      All the way back until conservatives are calling FDR a communist, and Liberals making fun of Hoobert Heever, and his great depression. Mixed in with the typical blurbs in between.

      What a bunch of sensitive little twerps! Y'all need red or blue Binky's

      I am guilty of trolling with various quips myself - thing is I don't take it seriously, like you and the other snowflakes. And it's weird when you do this. Libs think you're a crypto conservative, and crypto conservatives think you're a flaming lib.

      But they are all wrong. I'm just stirring the ant's nest with a stick, and enjoying watching the precious flowers come running out to stake their outrage.

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      The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
    7. Re:These are the same people by js290 · · Score: 1
      rent seeking journos...

      Twitter Rules: #LearnToCode is perfectly ok to say to #coalworkers when they get fired. #LearnToCode is a violation of Terms of Service if said to #journalists when they get fired.

      makes perfect sense.

      — Janie (@jbr485) January 28, 2019

      --
      "Tempers are wearing thin. Let's just hope some robot doesn't kill everybody." --Bender
  10. Well Obama is fucked by alvinrod · · Score: 4, Funny

    Well Obama is fucked. He asked everyone to learn how to code.

    1. Re:Well Obama is fucked by Spamalope · · Score: 1

      So does posting that or links to NPR count as ban-able offenses on twitter now that a blessed group is affected?
      https://www.npr.org/sections/a...

  11. Reporter coders? They'll just use stackoverflow by mveloso · · Score: 4, Funny

    Reporters learning to code? Given the state of journalism today they'll just go to stackoverflow and copy the top 8 answers into the file and call it done.

    "I don't understand why I can't use hashtags to search for code snippets!"

    1. Re:Reporter coders? They'll just use stackoverflow by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

      Bbbbut they'll never get any badges that way

    2. Re:Reporter coders? They'll just use stackoverflow by Alypius · · Score: 1

      "Top 25 ways to manage your data trees! Number eight will SHOCK you!"

  12. Re:funny by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

    The only people with problems seem to be Apple customers. I would hesitate to say it is Slashdot's problem.

  13. Probably Twitter HR department by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Looking for new recruits.

  14. "Might"? by Pluvius · · Score: 2

    It already has. There's documented proof of it.

    Rob

    1. Re:"Might"? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Those photos are probably accurate, but it's probably worth mentioning that these days, a photo doesn't really constitute proof.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    2. Re:"Might"? by Pluvius · · Score: 1

      I don't think you can archive Twitter ban messages, unfortunately.

      Rob

    3. Re: "Might"? by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      Yeah. Just have to consider it evidence in one direction, instead of proof.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
  15. Re: funny by unixisc · · Score: 2

    It's funny. This is the advice that these media supporters of woke corporations gave the people they laid off over the years for the last several years. Now that it's being turned on them, it's abusive. It's funny to see those who dish it out being so unable to take it.

    Maybe teach those Lib Arts majors Assembly Language programming for starters, which would avoid getting into concepts like classes, structures and so on, and just deal w/ registers, memories, accumulators and so on

  16. Re:Irony: AI will replace software engineers by unixisc · · Score: 1

    Can they? Why not ask them to simply write VLIW compilers - a project that worked so well at Multiflow, Cydrome, HP and Intel?

  17. Enough by ArchieBunker · · Score: 1

    Can we please route Twitter off the internet? It does nothing of value.

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    Only the State obtains its revenue by coercion. - Murray Rothbard
    1. Re:Enough by sheramil · · Score: 1

      And Facebook. And Pinterest.

    2. Re:Enough by houghi · · Score: 1

      And about 99.999999999% of the rest of the websites, including mine. An added bonus will be that search engines will be useless, and we can go back to the manual indexing of the golden years of Internet when the only problem we had was the blink tag.

      This is the browser for it

      Not: Some current websites might not work as expected. Please remove CSS and start using tables like it should be.

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      Don't fight for your country, if your country does not fight for you.
  18. Re:funny by gabebear · · Score: 1

    I guess we could all just use 7bit ASCII to keep compatible with Slashdot... Apple devices do use curly/smart quotes more often; but it’s definitely not confined to them.

    Chrome is quickly becoming the new IE/ActiveX. This is why we can’t have nice things.

  19. The real story here by Harvey+Manfrenjenson · · Score: 1

    I don't give a fuck about Twitter and its stupid fucking abuse policy. The real story of interest here is that multiple digital news outlets are laying off journalists left and right. They're nontraditional news outlets, but they are major news outlets nonetheless, and most of them are owned by companies who could easily afford to keep the journalists employed. For instance, I would guess that the journalists working for Verizon-- the parent company of several of these news outlets-- represent less than 0.1% of their labor costs.

    They could keep them around if they wanted to, but they don't want to.

  20. Now We Know by STRICQ · · Score: 1

    As if we already didn't who gets to make the decision of what is moral and socially acceptable now. They also get to decide what is fake and what is real, regardless of reality.

  21. Great. by VeryFluffyBunny · · Score: 1

    Now, Twitter's going to be our purse-lipped mother-in-law?

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    Debate is a form of harassment. Do not question my truth.
  22. Meaningless by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

    If Twitter is going to continue their policy of selectively enforcing rules when the spotlight is on them... this is utterly meaningless.

  23. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1, Interesting

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  24. OK, then... by LordHighExecutioner · · Score: 1

    1) Users who tweet learn to code are banned.
    2) Twitter loses more and more market share.
    3) ???
    4) ex-twitter employees join ex-journalist at school where they learn to code.

  25. Re:Drumpf sucks balls. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    You only win the prisoner's dilemma by defecting as long as you play with someone who cooperates because he learned that this is actually the winning strategy. Once he notices you're defecting, he'll start doing the same, ending up in lower effectiveness for both of you.

    I guess we're heading for shittier times.

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    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  26. Tweeting "learn to code" is harrassment? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    So ... these "journalists" (I'll use the term loosely here) were laid off for harassing people?

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    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  27. Re:It'll never work by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    Well, they already demonstrated that they can't handle irony, that much is at least true.

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    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  28. Re:LOLZ! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    I was thinking the same, if Twitter only punishes those that tweet this to journalists, where exactly is the problem?

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    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  29. Re:Hey Journalists by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    If they could assemble statements in the proper order they'd still have a job.

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    We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
  30. Re:Addendum = SELF-ACTUALIZATION... apk by f3rret · · Score: 1

    So. Changed your meds again, did they?

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    Admit nothing. Deny Everything. Make Counter-accusations.
  31. This programmer worked at the Associated Press by Spinlock_1977 · · Score: 1

    For seven years, I worked as a programmer at the Associated Press in Manhattan. I met a lot of journalists. It was obvious I wouldn't make a good journalist, because I wasn't interested in the stuff they were interested in. And it was equally obvious they would make poor programmers, for exactly the same reason.

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    - The Kessel run is for nerf herders. I can circumnavigate the entire Central Finite Curve in a lot less than 12 parse
  32. Re: Meanwhile feeding kids into woodchippers is AO by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    Of course. Twitter is an arm of the prog leftard commie asshole movement.

    If you want to sell that line, you'll have to explain why they haven't terminated Donald Trump's account for violations of the ToS. The truth is that twitter is amoral at best, they just want money, so they want views. Any tweet that makes them more money than it costs them is a good match for their corporate values.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  33. How to learn to code by AHuxley · · Score: 1

    Remember what the coal miners got told?

    Code now has a few slight changes. Learn how to read a Code of Conduct (CoC) and what a CoC allows code to be used for in 2019 and beyond.
    Select a computer code that is still in use. Has the code got a CoC that allows the results to still make a profit?
    Do you have to show your code for anyone to copy and give away for free?
    Dont learn a code that makes you give everything you worked on away for free.
    Will the CoC make the code difficult to use and make a profit from? Look at a better code with a less restrictive CoC.

    Code that fully respects the right to make a profit and to keep the results of the many hours of hard work put into a project.

    Find a code product that has allows the results of hard work to be sold for a profit no matter the type of project and who you work for.

    A code with lots of complex English terms and words in it. That keeps average foreign workers away from that type of code.
    No good learning a code that is cheaper to code with outside the USA. Use your advanced US English education when learning to code.
    A CoC that does not track all code use and make later demands on how that code is been used.

    After finding code that is in use in 2019 and that allows a profit to be made, look for an approved way for learning how to code.
    Getting an approved education in code allows that professional skill to be used.
    Take out a loan. Use savings from a bank account. Get accepted into an approved educational company that can teach code.
    Find an approved computer teaching company and invest fully in the hours, days, weeks, months, years and "Learn to Code".
    Remember to watch for any changes on the CoC that will reduce the ability to make a profit form the code.
    Be ready for any attempts by a CoC to track code use and make demands on how code is used.
    CoC can change at any time for any reason. So select a good quality code before learning how to code.
    Find an online code community that works to support users. Do they actually help users code or just use code to push their political views?

    Attend code class on time and have all your work ready.
    Do the code homework that's set and be ready for all code exams and tests.
    Take more time to really study the needed complex math. Math is needed and should be studied outside any set code work that is set.
    Long hours learning code. Learning new math. Learning how to use the advanced math with the code.
    After years of hard work apply for all the new code jobs all over the USA.
    Be ready to move to any part of the USA given a company may seek low tax rates in different fully gentrified cities and states.

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    Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
  34. really? by racerex · · Score: 1

    What a bunch of snowflakes. If that's abusive then I shutter to think what they would've thought about how my generation's parents treated us growing up.

  35. Re: Meanwhile feeding kids into woodchippers is AO by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

    You already answered that. For as much virtue signaling as they like to do, they like money more, and Trump makes them a lot of money.

    Virtue signalling doesn't speak to someone's political orientation, only to how they want to appear for public purposes. It doesn't mean what you think it means. There's nothing liberal about Twitter.

    Also, because of a very poor court decision, it might actually be illegal for Twitter to terminate his account as it would be violating the peoples right to petition the government.

    It wouldn't. The relationship doesn't go in that direction, only the opposite: Trump can't block people on Twitter because he's using it as an official communications medium. If he isn't, then it becomes irrelevant to that argument. Twitter can block Trump, but they can't let Trump block people.

    --
    "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  36. Re:funny by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    Apple users even know how to use proper ASCII punctuation any more. Isn't there some mode you can set to use ASCII?

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    Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
  37. Re: funny by fluffernutter · · Score: 1

    So.. there's a simple solution here. Don't use the mobile site. Mobile sites are almost always shitty.

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    Laws are rules for the court, but merely a bottom bar to hit for life. Think beyond laws in your actions always.
  38. "privilege, cause cherry picked stats" on slashdot by Kartu · · Score: 1

    "privilege, since cherry picked stats" on slashdot, we are "progressing" fast.
    Now let me cherry pick some other stats for you:

    About 350 firemen died on 9/11, most of them white, 100% of them men.
    Men earn more, but spend a fraction of earnings, yet are pointed out to have "privilege".
    Average US man works 30% longer hours and spends 30% more to commute to work, than working woman.
    Men are getting longer prison sentences and are more likely to get sentence than women, (for the same crime, both first timers)
    Boys are lagging behind at all stages of education, enrollment at high school soon to reach 40% vs 60%, but gender focused programs are still focused on girls.
    Men are times more likely to commit suicide.
    Men dominate at the bottom of the social pyramid, regardless of their skin color (homless, high risk jobs (90%+ of workspace fatalities) etc).

    So, what you were saying again?

  39. This many snowflakes... by Quake1v1 · · Score: 1

    ...will always cause an avalanche.

  40. Re:Drumpf sucks balls. by kilfarsnar · · Score: 2

    There are two good things about Trump: (1) his negotiating strategy appears to be more realistic, i.e. he's very combative and aggressive and (2) he's annoying all the right people.

    LOL, Trump gets rolled in every negotiation he takes part in. How's that denuclearized North Korea thing working out? He is certainly combative and aggressive, I'll give you that.

    And annoying all the right people? The Republicans really have made spite and resentment their political philosophy.

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    "What the American public doesn't know is what makes them the American public." -Ray Zalinsky (Tommy Boy)
  41. What if I tweet... by Huge_UID · · Score: 1

    "Learn to code" to the Twitter Dev team?

  42. Re:Drumpf sucks balls. by danbert8 · · Score: 1

    How's that denuclearized North Korea thing working out?

    Better than it has been previously? I mean, it's at least a step toward peace and he's not doing it through appeasement.

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    Yes it's an anecdote! Were you expecting original research in a Slashdot comment?
  43. Re:Drumpf sucks balls. by Shotgun · · Score: 1

    So, you bought the whore's book? And then actually read it?

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    Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
    Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
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  45. Coding is mega-boring. by laxr5rs · · Score: 1

    That's why I'm in release. Looking at a 2D screen all day and moving characters around in accordance with an imagined framework. Oh, THAT's exciting! It's exciting if you have a severe analytical bent. PUZZLES everyone loves PUZZLES! Right!? No, not everyone. If I'm going to puzzle about something, it's not going to be about which way I should move characters around in my editor. I have a "real life" out here, believe it or not. Telling someone like a Journalist, who actually interacts with humans (remember those?) to "learn to code," is tantamount to telling them to slit their throats in anguish. Who WANTS to code? Analytical puzzle solvers. And they are often not much fun at parties. Who needs to get off their high horse? Coders. You're not the salvation of Earth, you're just moving characters around and when something works.? "YOO HOO! I'm a GOD!" Yeah... you're a god. Sure.

  46. Twitter needs to die by philmarcracken · · Score: 1

    Still kinda sad to see twitter stock recovery. It needs to die, it will never be a source of constructive thought just a tiny window for the unwashed masses to throw low effort insults at each other.

    The worst part is people thinking its required to uphold freedom of speech and be unbiased.

  47. Re: funny by budgenator · · Score: 1

    Maybe if the Journalists had learned coding, their thinking would be disciplined enough so that the main stream medias wouldn't be the festering cesspool of lies and hidden agendas that it has become.

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  48. Re: Drumpf sucks balls. by jpaine619 · · Score: 1

    I hope she runs again, between her corruption and little miss 1/1024 native american, I don't know which would be funnier to watch.

    So do I... I desperately hope the Democrats try to get that nutty cunt into office again.

  49. Re:Jesus ain't say that by Shotgun · · Score: 1

    They didn't turn around and run away, therefore it's their fault!? They responded to stupidity with mockery, so they'r racists?
    Don't you have a road to block with your Antifa buddies, where you uses racial epithets to call other people racists?

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    Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
    Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
  50. Hey NPC Download an update to your strings by Crashmarik · · Score: 1

    You are sitting in front of an internet connected computer and you can't even bother to hit google ?

    https://www.redstate.com/sarah...

    https://twitter.com/DLoesch/st...

    It's no wonder the right thinks you lot are little more than automatons.