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Mark Zuckerberg Wants The Government To Help Police Internet Content (bbc.com)

"Mark Zuckerberg says regulators and governments should play a more active role in controlling internet content," according to the BBC, calling for new laws governing harmful content, election integrity, privacy, and data portability.

An anonymous reader quotes their report: In an op-ed published in the Washington Post, Facebook's chief says the responsibility for monitoring harmful content is too great for firms alone... "Lawmakers often tell me we have too much power over speech, and frankly I agree," Mr Zuckerberg writes... In brief, Mr Zuckerberg calls for the following things:

- Common rules that all social media sites need to adhere to, enforced by third-party bodies, to control the spread of harmful content

- All major tech companies to release a transparency report every three months, to put it on a par with financial reporting

- Stronger laws around the world to protect the integrity of elections, with common standards for all websites to identify political actors

- Laws that not only apply to candidates and elections, but also other "divisive political issues", and for laws to apply outside of official campaign periods

- New industry-wide standards to control how political campaigns use data to target voters online

- More countries to adopt privacy laws like the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), which came into force last year

- A "common global framework" that means these laws are all standardised globally, rather than being substantially different from country to country

- Clear rules about who's responsible for protecting people's data when they move it from one service to another

Zuckerberg believes the same regulations should apply to all web sites to make it easier to stop the spread of "harmful content." He also says Facebook will be creating "an independent body so people can appeal our decisions" when content is taken.

275 comments

  1. Policing Internet Content? by LynnwoodRooster · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I thought the idea was that information wants to be free, and we shouldn't restrict content (unless it's clearly illegal, like child porn). Even if it's content you don't agree with...

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    1. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Kernel+Kurtz · · Score: 1

      I thought the idea was that information wants to be free, and we shouldn't restrict content (unless it's clearly illegal, like child porn). Even if it's content you don't agree with...

      Indeed. Everyone gets to piss in the pool, except that guy with smallpox.

      What would be better would be working to be sure everyone knew the truth about the pool.

    2. Re:Policing Internet Content? by rmdingler · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I thought the idea was that information wants to be free, and we shouldn't restrict content (unless it's clearly illegal, like child porn). Even if it's content you don't agree with...

      The problem seems to be that folks have become reluctant to protect that most important free speech; the one you disagree with.

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      Ernest Hemingway

    3. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the idea was that information wants to be free, and we shouldn't restrict content (unless it's clearly illegal, like child porn). Even if it's content you don't agree with...

      Just another Zuckerberg scam.

      Pretend that you really want to do something, but, push responsibility off to the government. Then, Facebook doesn't have to do anything, especially anything that might potentially reduce the number of Shekels they make. And, extra bonus, any time the government does something under these new proposed laws, Facebook can appeal endlessly.

    4. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Well we certainly can't have free speech that I disagree with. Otherwise people might agree with them instead of me.

    5. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zucker-pr0n the Trotsky-slut bitchboi. He wants the Gub'mnt gunbarrel right next to his information rules ready to slam-the-laws down the throat of anyone close. Wonder what grade brake-fluid he uses .....

    6. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      REM:: anySemite can make anything illegal. It's (just) the law, BOSCO. And like any Semite Zuckerberg objects to free anything .... you wanna banana you payfor banana; you wanna speech you pay-for-speech. Trotsky-slut bitches, them .... and pestilent threats anywhere near the Gub'mnt gunbarrel. REM: fear Germans with a Mauser, Italians with a switchblade ... and Semites with a law-book.

    7. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better watch what you say, nerds

      Better watch what you say

      We've broken into your network

      And legally here to hack

      Stolen all your data and did an algorithm match

      We're scary and ornery and ready to attack

      Cause were the Internet Cops Of The World

      If you thought NSA's Trailblazer was bad

      You don't know what it's like to be had

      So get on your knees

      When making your pleas

      And still we might sell everything to your enemies

      Cause were the Internet Cops Of The World

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      - apologies to Phil Ochs, "Cops of the World"

    8. Re:Policing Internet Content? by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

      The problem seems to be that folks have become reluctant to protect that most important free speech; the one you disagree with.

      I think the real problem here is we can't even decide which speech should be protected, and which should be banned. I mean, most of us agree some things are so heinous we should not speak about them/promote them.. but even then, the people who want to espouse those ideas a majority might find completely unacceptable will scream free speech if we try to do anything about it.

      It's a completely losing battle. Free speech cuts both ways, and it's kind of annoying at times that it does.

    9. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook is just saying they don't want to become thought police and if the governments around the world really want to control the online content then let them do something about it. The endless political-mob circle jerks where the politicians and the citizens both love to bitch and moan while blaming someone else for the problems they created. The online social media companies did not cause the problems it is the users of their services. Unfortunately the internet has been weaponized using deceit and stupidity to mesmerize the sheep and take advantage of the chaos. It's especially easy because large segments of society are incapable and unwilling to take responsibility for their own actions. And the politicians provide a good example of how to always blame someone else for the problems. The politicians do not do anything but run for office 24/7. The US government is just begging to be replaced and they will be once their multi-decade Ponzi schemes and their theater of the absurd causes the country to implode.

      Everyone, especially the Dimocrats, cannot figure out how he won the election and god help us may win re-election Clintons supporters were vastly more annoying than the Trump supporters. The Clinton supporters condescending attitudes towards Trump supporters sealed his victory. Why do a lot of people place global warming down on the list of issues to address? Because the people who make fanatical proclamations of doom and offer whimsical solutions are annoying to the majority of people. Those claiming to be Progressives become their own worse enemies every time they open their mouths.

    10. Re:Policing Internet Content? by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      I think the real problem here is we can't even decide which speech should be protected, and which should be banned. I mean, most of us agree some things are so heinous we should not speak about them/promote them.. but even then, the people who want to espouse those ideas a majority might find completely unacceptable will scream free speech if we try to do anything about it.

      Three Quick Rules: Err on the side of the speech should be free even if someone finds it hateful. Restrict only as a last resort. Recognize that no Bill of Rights Amendment assured you the right not to be offended.

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    11. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You missed a rule.
      Ask yourself, if that were your family involved, would you want the world to be watching over and over again for cheap entertainment.

      And would you want the sick fucks who get their jollies watching rape/murder to be your neighbour with a gun.

    12. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ah. Like CNN after the petrol-bombs flew into the World Trade Center you mean? Yes, that sort of shit should be banned.

    13. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Watching the aftermath of the Christchurch attacks and the banning of a video and text with up to 14 years jail, unless you pay the New Zealand government $100 and then you can read it. WTAF?

    14. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Rockoon · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think the real problem here is we can't even decide which speech should be protected, and which should be banned.

      No, we decided that a long time ago. Ergo we arent having a problem deciding.

      The real problem isn't even that thats not good enough for some sensitive fucks.. the problem is that we take those sensitive fucks seriously.

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      "His name was James Damore."
    15. Re:Policing Internet Content? by rogoshen1 · · Score: 1

      Oh no no, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, libertarian ideals -- these are all naive concepts that you get over after you completely fuck things up, and need a convenient fig leaf to justify cleaning up the mess in which you basically are personally culpable for.

    16. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      (unless it's clearly illegal, like child porn)

      Or Russian election hacking!!

    17. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free speech does not mean lazily handing every nutbag in the world your global megaphone while you look away and share no responsibility for their actions, have no way of knowing what country or jurisdiction they are even in, not only anonymously but while TOTALLY misrepresenting themselves, their nationality, their ideology, their true aims. That is not what ANYONE IN THE HISTORY OF THE IDEA OF FREE SPEECH ever thought it would be.
      If the King of England allowed free speech and freedom of the press but ran a strong propaganda game (RealPaulRevere18 - White lives matter!, happy_in_boston1775 - u crazy I voted on taxes last month), we would have had a Boston Printing Press Party if we had a revolution at all.

      In the same way that the right not bear arms does not mean every individual has the right to surface to air missiles in their back yard.

      We need to start measuring the real risks of not knowing anything at all about the origins of a growing share of the information we consume, just like we have a risk based approach to all other freedoms. It's not about liking/disliking anything, there is tangible risk to the way the Internet is governed right now. If "Jeff in Lexington" says something obscene about colonial aspirations, we need but that better be Jeff in MFing Lexington!!!

    18. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And not all "major tech companies" are content sites, and not all "global" dictators or free people agree with all of our extremists so the scope of this inane discussion needs to be reduced a LOT. Let's start with, this is the USA, and we don't ask the government to censor our speech here. Mark and all his haters that caused this mess can just GTFO.

    19. Re:Policing Internet Content? by ToasterMonkey · · Score: 1, Interesting

      I thought the idea was that information wants to be free, and we shouldn't restrict content (unless it's clearly illegal, like child porn). Even if it's content you don't agree with...

      The problem seems to be that folks have become reluctant to protect that most important free speech; the one you disagree with.

      Freedom of speech does not mean lazily handing a global megaphone to everyone in the world, while you look away guilt-free and share no responsibilities for their actions, allow them to use it anonymously from literally anywhere on the planet WHILE totally misrepresenting themselves as anyone anywhere else on the planet.

      In the same way that an individual right to bear arms does not mean we have to allow every person to rock surface to air missiles in their backyard, or sell them to people that can, or make, or own one, freedom of speech absolutely does not have to mean THAT.

      Look, say if the King of England had allowed free speech, when "Jeff in Lexington" says something obscene about colonial aspirations, that's speech we can just disagree with. Some people did support the monarchy in colonial America after all.

      When "Jeff in Lexington", "Anonymous in Boston", "Real Paul Revere2", and "George Wash1ngton" are all propaganda spewing sock puppets being run directly from the King's Court, then we might not have had a Boston Tea Party, we might have had a Boston Printing Press Party, because that's not free speech, that's an affront to free speech.

    20. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Smells like someone had to sell out to a few congress critters during their inquisition.

    21. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, it actually does. You don't have to like it, but you will have to live with it.

    22. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good job blaming libertarians for the mess they created! Let's see which libertarian president was the worst ... Hmm not Trump, not Obama, not Bush, not Clinton... How far back do you go to find a libertarian in office??? Idiot

    23. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hate speech is still "free speech" in the US, anywhere else it's basically a crime akin to throwing acid on someone.

      At the minimum social media companies should be responsible for their users, just like video, image and music hosting sites should be responsible for their users, and cut off users that break the rules. But this is where we keep making the same mistake. Nobody wants to put the effort into a verified ID system as it's seen as overreach.

      1. eBay, sells counterfeit things all the time. While the average counterfeit piece of clothing doesn't harm the wearer on purpose, it may still be tainted with chemicals or poorly made and that is still an economic harm. Ideally eBay would not sell any counterfeit items, but then that crap just moves to Amazon, Aliexpress, and so forth. This is where government has to intervene and say that all companies that knowingly sell counterfeit merchandise, once notified, have the duty to remove it , report from the copyright/trademark holder be damned. eBay staff are on record as not caring unless a VeRO member reports the items, and they often report the items well past the point of doing anything, and all the VeRO member can do after that point is go after egregious offenders, leaving all the fly-by-night Chinese drop shippers to keep going. ecommerce companies do not verify that people selling on their platform exist.

      2. MMORPG's are often inundated with "goldfarming" bots, and similar resource destroying activities that are entirely automated, and the game devs refuse to do the one simple thing that would prevent this: Verify that the player exists. It would cost them time and money to verify... yet it costs them boat loads more money with players fleeing their games when the bots have more presence than flesh-and-blood players. Player toxicity increases when it starts looking like the company doesn't care about bots, and thus takes no action against data miners and cheat/hack users that may be obvious to players, but invisible to the GM's.

      3. Blogs and websites featuring hate content and illegal content show up (see 8chan) all the time. Yet services like Cloudflare are more than happy to protect them, even when they deal with child porn. Cloudflare lets everything fly under the radar. If Cloudflare was required to verify the identity of the owner of the site, then the vast majority of the crime operating behind Cloudflare wouldn't last very long.

      4. Social media allows new accounts to be made with no effort to verify anything.

      I make these connections to show the common problem. So how and what should be verified?

      A) To operate any account, on any site, tap your passport to your machine's NFC reader at signup. If a service permits more than one account to be held by a verified ID, then do that. This would take the wind out of the most egregious actual crimes being committed, as the services they operate would not permit criminals to have an account in the first place, or would only permit a restricted account (for petty crimes that do not involve financial fraud or physical harm.)

      But that would require everyone to have a passport? How dare you infringe on my freedumbs? I'm sorry, but it has to be that way because too many "free speech warriors" out there have decided that everywhere must be a free speech zone, when the rules in the United States of America only apply to the government infringing your free speech. Facebook, Google, et al do not need to allow "free speech" on their platform. The government likewise can pull your internet connection by leaning on your ISP. If you operate a hate site like 8chan, then that goes even one further, as the actual site might be hosted somewhere in eastern Europe where the US can't touch it, but should it ever become known where it is, the local government would be more than happy to shut it down.

      Which circles back to things like Cloudflare harboring criminals because they likely profit from it, in the same way eBay profits from criminals on their site.

      Start verifying that

    24. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ya, but we don't make laws base on such emotional reasoning, and the ones that are, frequently full of shit

    25. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      Keeping it that way is also a form of policing. A platform like facebook that simply acts as a carrier that transits user generated content should be treated like a common carrier such as an internet link itself or the postal system. They shouldn't be looking at or censoring the content at all and they also shouldn't be liable.

    26. Re:Policing Internet Content? by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      The only reason Facebook exists is to look at the content. That's how their business works: Look at content, use it to make inferences about individuals, use those inferences to target advertising.

    27. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Translation: Donald Trump won the 2016 election, I've lost my fucking mind, and I am incapable of self reflection or introspection which would let me recognize that it wasn't $150k in bad Russian memes that lost the election, but my vile adherence to racial and gender politics.

    28. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's literally what it means, you fucking moron.

      Anyone can say anything without having to run it by you fascist authoritarian leftist language police.

      The narrow exceptions being the threat of immediate violence, or intentionally malicious defamatory public statements intended to cause reputational harm.

      Your stupid fucking "Jeff" example is retarded, incoherent, and meaningless. Kill yourself.

    29. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, it turns out that idea is wrong, the same reason people don't want raw sewage in the streets or their underwear shown in public.

    30. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the same way that an individual right to bear arms does not mean we have to allow every person to rock surface to air missiles in their backyard, or sell them to people that can, or make, or own one, freedom of speech absolutely does not have to mean THAT.

      Yes it does, and yes we do. Apply for a license, pay the fee.

      How do you think manufacturers do it? We are a country of people. No corporation, despite their trying, has more rights than any citizen.

      When "Jeff in Lexington", "Anonymous in Boston", "Real Paul Revere2", and "George Wash1ngton" are all propaganda spewing sock puppets being run directly from the King's Court, then we might not have had a Boston Tea Party, we might have had a Boston Printing Press Party, because that's not free speech, that's an affront to free speech.

      You really, really need a history lesson. Some of the papers beginning the independence of the colonies from the British Empire were published anonymously.

      Free speech is an absolute. Changing definitions until they match what you really want is all the rage these days, but even plausible threats of imminent violence is still protected speech. It's the intent that is the crime.

    31. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

      You're missing the point.

      What he really wants is:
      a) The taxpayer to foot the bill instead of Facebook.
      and
      b) To pass the buck to the Government every time the system fails.

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    32. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Kjella · · Score: 4, Insightful

      When "Jeff in Lexington", "Anonymous in Boston", "Real Paul Revere2", and "George Wash1ngton" are all propaganda spewing sock puppets being run directly from the King's Court, then we might not have had a Boston Tea Party, we might have had a Boston Printing Press Party, because that's not free speech, that's an affront to free speech. (...) Freedom of speech does not mean lazily handing a global megaphone to everyone in the world

      Actually that is what it's about, every regime from the United States to North Korea has their own propaganda machine, the question is not whether it will exist or not. It's whether there'll be a constitutionally protected opposition or not and whether that freedom is real in practice. Like for example what Martin Luther King fought for, the right to vote was theoretically in the constitution since 1865 but if you just make it hard and dangerous to use you cut it off at the knees. To use a quote from Selma

      We know Johnson can't see the full picture. So, let's paint it for him. What are the specific hardships and humiliations we can address within the larger context of legislation? Doc, we gotta start with banning these laws that if a Negro tries to register, I mean, actually musters up the courage to go in that courthouse, that their name and address is published in the paper. It gives anybody who wants to do them any harm their exact location, and we know how the Klan is. - I hear that. But the poll taxes got to be our focus first. 'Cause black people are poor! Black people are poor down here. - Yep. - And they expected to pay for every year they weren't legally registered before they can register. Now, what the hell is that? Who got that kind of money? Come on now!

      Listen now! The big issue is voting vouchers. - Is that the number one issue? - Now hold on. Let me finish. 'Cause everybody'll forget about this part. But if you're Negro, the only way you can vote is if an approved registered voter vouches for you. Right? So, let's say, you take some place like Lowndes County, where there are no Negroes who are registered and you've got to have someone who is registered to vouch for you. What are you supposed to do? Nobody you know, not a single black person for 100 miles is registered. So how do you get the voucher, right? To get you into the courthouse door to pay the poll tax to get your name published and get yourself dead.

      Now they're trying to wrap up free speech in the same kind of web, sure you have free speech if you register with a government ID, if you go to a "free speech zone", if we get to moderate it first in case of Bad Stuff(tm) because I'm sure nothing controversial or critical of the government will be flagged for review and hidden so it never becomes the top comment, oh and let's have a real names policy so the new Klan knows where you live and so on. And you're never going to mysteriously appear on a no-fly list for extended security checks, no sir. They're never going to go over your tax returns with a fine tooth comb to find a violation. And it'll never be hacked or abused/leaked by people in the system. Unless they choose to play dirty, then you'll sadly be killed in a home invasion or disappear to a reeducation camp.

      Look, say if the King of England had allowed free speech, when "Jeff in Lexington" says something obscene about colonial aspirations, that's speech we can just disagree with. Some people did support the monarchy in colonial America after all.

      They were plotting actual treason and the armed overthrow of the government. How far do you think they would have gotten if they had to give constant progress reports to the government? Yes, maybe ToasterMonkey (467067) is a propaganda spewing sock puppet from Russia out to destroy America, but I'm willing to take my chances. It's better than creating some kind of registration/verification scheme where everyone has to hand the government a log of their speech before participating in the public debate.

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    33. Re:Policing Internet Content? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      When "Jeff in Lexington", "Anonymous in Boston", "Real Paul Revere2", and "George Wash1ngton" are all propaganda spewing sock puppets being run directly from the King's Court, then we might not have had a Boston Tea Party, we might have had a Boston Printing Press Party, because that's not free speech, that's an affront to free speech.

      I was thinking that Twitter's verification mark solves that, but actually it doesn't. The problem we have now is Russian trolls pretending to be ordinary people, not notable ones.

      In the post-truth world where all politicians are assumed to by lying all the time, people rank the word of their fellow citizens quite highly. Maybe the highest authority in fact, given that actual authorities are deemed to be lying about everything.

      So all a politically motivated troll has to do is pretend to be John from Huddersfield and post a few carefully crafted memes, and they become the voice of the people.

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    34. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought the idea was that information wants to be free, and we shouldn't restrict content (unless it's clearly illegal, like child porn). Even if it's content you don't agree with...

      The child porn thing is something most agree with.
      There are however plenty of other clearly illegal cases where people still disagree.

      The category of conspiring to commit crimes for example.
      Making a deal about murdering someone is clearly illegal, even if it is only verbal communication.
      What about convincing someone to murder someone unspecified for free?
      How about "someone should kill those rats"? Clearly a call for crime, but not exactly specific.
      You also have the classic mafia style of threatening: "It would be unfortunate if you had an accident."

      Libel is clearly illegal. Despite this a lot of people thinks it would be unfair censorship if an internet forum were to remove claims that fits clearly in that category. (Birtherism fits clearly in the libel category. Claiming that Bernie is a communist probably doesn't unless you also claim that communism is the same thing as Stalinism.)

      ISIS recruiters doesn't typically do anything beyond communicating with the recruits and the first step is to find troubled individuals and convince them to cut all ties with friends and family and then to tell them that media is lying to them. (That way the recruiter is their only friends and the only on they can trust.)
      The recruiters usually doesn't encourage anyone to do anything illegal.
      Their intent is just to make someone sell their stuff and go to Syria, the illegal part happens later on.

    35. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The alternative is that Facebook gets to decide what is right and wrong.

      I can't say that I like either option.

    36. Re:Policing Internet Content? by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Interesting

      This! Well partially anyway. By passing the buck to the government through clear guidelines the whole issue ceases to be a moving target. Dealing with a wide array of nutjobs who range from "Fixing my spelling mistakes is censorship" to "Why did Facebook let someone hurt my feelings" and from "damn Cambridge analytica hoovered up private data" to "I purposefully posted this publicly how dare someone can't see it" is difficult.

      When you have a wide range of people to appease it would help if at some point someone draws a line in the sand for you the walk along. Being able to pass the buck to the government is kind of what the government is there for in the first place and that way when Congress come knocking, you can just throw your certificate of regulatory compliance in their face.

    37. Re:Policing Internet Content? by 605dave · · Score: 1

      I think Knowledge Wants To Be Free, not information. Does your web browser history really want to be free?

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      Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a difficult battle. - Plato
    38. Re:Policing Internet Content? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 1

      > If you operate a hate site like

      **Facepalm**

      Websites don't have emotion. *People* do.

      If you are offended at words then grow the fuck up because adults don't give a shit about your childish insecurity.

    39. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      post a few carefully crafted memes, and they become the voice of the people

      Much like your personne par écrit.

    40. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Deep+Esophagus · · Score: 1

      We're not giving Zuckerberg enough credit for his visionary thinking. All we need is a name for this new police force designed to keep internet content government-approved.

      I think "Thought Police" has a nice ring to it.

    41. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the vile racism of the modern Republican party is very perverse and pervasive, but that political agenda has always loved its memes.

      Southern Heritage, the Lost Cause, the Peculiar Institution, it has long contributed an emotional agenda to convince itself as persecuted and victimized as it rightful virtues are ignored and shamed.

      That is why they can look at children kipnapped by Trump and sold into slavery without batting an eye.

    42. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The reason politician want FB to censor the Internet is because FB is allowed to censor the internet while the govt is not. It's super convenient. The US govt cannot by law create standards on censoring the internet since that would violate the 1st amendment (content restriction), so they just hector Google and FB into doing it for them based on whatever the headlines of the week are.

    43. Re:Policing Internet Content? by dyfet · · Score: 1

      Indeed many of the proposed "cures" are far worse than the disease...

    44. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It isn't the words, it is the ideas encompassed by the expression, and offended as you are by the phrase "hate site" you aren't even honest about it.

      Wrong too, since instead of understanding that the function of the website is being described you come up with a nonsequitor about websites not feeling emotion.

      Do you really think such obtuseness is productive?

    45. Re: Policing Internet Content? by UnknownSoldier · · Score: 3, Insightful

      You are **assuming** I was offended. I was not. I simply pointing out the stupidity of using meaningless, bullshit phrases like "hate sites" or "hate speech". But good luck trying to anthropomorphise speech & websites because not everyone is stupid enough to fall for it.

      You either have 100% Free Speech OR you have Censorship. There is NO middle ground BY definition. Only insecure children censor, adults discuss and even laugh about "taboo" subjects. Without the ability to openly communicate and criticize there is no opportunity for learning and growth. Ignoring a problem doesn't magically make it go away. Free Speech -- and the consequence of a few trolls spamming and people being butt-hurt because they are insecure, special snowflakes -- is the LESSER of the two evils. Do you REALLY want to end up like the idiots over in China where a fucking NUMBER is censored??? If you don't like what someone is saying then use your fucking brain and ignore them. Trying to censor someone else due to Political / Religious / Moral EXCUSES else just proves you are insecure. Grow the fuck up already.

      Go learn the meaning of this quote:

      "I disapprove of what you say,
      But I will defend to the death your right to say it."
      -- misattributed to Voltaire / Francois-Marie Arouet

      Your myopic no anonymity allowed ("require everyone to have a passport" **Facepalm**) won't solve the problem. It will either:

      a) drive it underground, or
      b) people will just blatantly ignore it.

      Go study Prohibition of the 1920's since you seem to be completely clueless about history.

    46. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Shaitan · · Score: 1

      No, Facebook exists because it provides value as a social networking system transiting content. Infringing on those communications to target ads is just how they are currently monetizing that. Facebook could change the later and still exist but if it stops doing the former it will cease to exist.

    47. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Required+Snark · · Score: 1

      So bullying and resultant suicides are completely fine with your, right?

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    48. Re: Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Free speech protects this statement:

      Die of cancer in fire you piece of shit.

    49. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not ma'am?

    50. Re:Policing Internet Content? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      C) Get men with guns to eliminate competition and establish a fiat monopoly for him.

      Wups, there went the argument that FB is not censoring, since it's a "private" enterprise.

    51. Re:Policing Internet Content? by BranMan · · Score: 1

      The "newbie" is on to something. Nice post Kjella! I'll remember those points next time someone brings up censorship "for the common good".

  2. Holy shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Does this man really want to turn this country into Mao Zedong's China?

    1. Re:Holy shit. by Calydor · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No. He wants to turn the internet from the wild west into a dystopian surveillance society.

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    2. Re:Holy shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So basically... yes?

    3. Re:Holy shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      He wants to turn the internet from the wild west into a dystopian surveillance society.

      Oh, he's already done that.

    4. Re:Holy shit. by ravenshrike · · Score: 2

      Facebook, along with Google and Twitter, don't want to burden theemselves with the costs of properly perusing the content and so use as many algorithms as possible. However the flaws to that approach quickly become apparent and so now they want the governments to take on the responsibility of doing so along with the monetary burden.

    5. Re:Holy shit. by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I doubt he wants to turn it into anything.

      It's just that in the event of someone legislating anything, he doesn't want to pay for it.

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
    6. Re:Holy shit. by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      It's just more fake posturing from dickwad Zuckerberg to avoid actually doing anything.

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      When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
    7. Re:Holy shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No, he wants the countries to argue over it for decades going nowhere so that he can point the finger at someone else rather than take responsibility.

    8. Re:Holy shit. by drnb · · Score: 1

      Well to be fair, we are probably safer with the NSA monitoring us than with Facebook. There are opportunities for accountability with the NSA, not so with Facebook.

    9. Re:Holy shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Does this man really want to turn this country into Mao Zedong's China?

      No. He wants to turn the internet from the wild west into a dystopian surveillance society.

      Internet belongs to the whole world. It does not belong to USA alone.

      China already has the dystopian version of surveillance society, and we do not want US government to turn the net into China's equivalent !!

    10. Re:Holy shit. by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 1

      On the contrary. I think he would prefer rules that would cost a lot to implement. Something that large incumbents like FB can afford, but upstart competitors can’t.

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    11. Re:Holy shit. by Xenx · · Score: 1

      I think it's less about that, and more liability for what they do/don't allow. If FB doesn't make the rules, they can't(or at least less likely to) be held liable for following them. And I'm not just talking legal liability, but in the eyes of the users.

    12. Re: Holy shit. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Contrary to popular belief, the West was full of law enforcement.

      Media such as books and movies and television have misled the public for years creating a false perception of the time period as a lawless place.

    13. Re:Holy shit. by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      The US did own the internet, until some president went and gave it away.. To people who want to sensor "Hate Speech". Why do you think people were so pissed off over it.

    14. Re:Holy shit. by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      The internet is a lot of hardware. It belongs to the owners of the hardware and is governed by the laws of the nation where the hardware sits.

      Many nations choose to have 'great firewalls' and censor the relatively open internet 'homed' in the USA. That's their problem, we can and should ignore their rules. What is the EU going to do about it? Stomp their feet?

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    15. Re:Holy shit. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      Nice thinking. But it's occurred to me that the two aren't mutually exclusive. The smaller players should be left to do it themselves because ... , umm, administrative efficiency, that's it! The big ones have economies of scale, thus making better use of the flatfoots' time..

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      Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
  3. Fear of regulator by manu0601 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Zuckerberg calling government for help? He must fear a FTC investigation.

    1. Re:Fear of regulator by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      Nope, quite simply the lying conartist wants to privatise the profits of mass privacy invasion and thought control and socialise the losses of administrating Facebook. Facebook makes the money, whilst we pay for the salaries of ten of thousands to monitor his for profit web site for him. Quite simply use real names, then as a corporation you are promoting that speech for profit and hence should be fully legally liable for it. Choose and perish, drop real names and loose that lovely lovely mass invasion of privacy and ability to lock people into the service and manipulate or keep real names and bear full legal responsibility, both civil and criminal, for those real identities that you promote for profit. Facebook is a for profit publishers of attacks, it takes the profit for those real people attacking other real people and should be liable for the costs of those real people attacking other real people.

      Real name social media should be held liable for the attacks of people against other people on their platform, that is it's purpose, to promote and publish real communications between named people, targeting named people, no excuse, they promote those people for profit, Facebook are liable for those people's actions, civil and criminal.

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    2. Re:Fear of regulator by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      More likely he just doesn't want to employ anyone to do the work. Aside from the cost they are all getting PTSD from the horrific stuff they are confronted with day-in day-out. Much better (for Zuckerberg) to offload that to law enforcement.

      It also shields them from criticism of moral decisions like banning white supremacists if they can outsource that decision to politicians.

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      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    3. Re:Fear of regulator by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      no he just wants to pass the blame, the rule set he wants will be the most unrestricted one money can buy from stupid Americans (regulation thats SOCAILIST crowd ) and he will shift the cost to the tax payers and the blame to the politicians for doing what he has always done,

    4. Re:Fear of regulator by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      So, instead of holding people responsible for their own actions, you want the corporations to be held responsible because they gave the person a space to say "wrong stuff". This is not a good mindset to have. Why not hold the person responsible? Is it because they are not actually committing any crime so there is no realistic way you can hold them responsible? If I say little johnny is a fucking toxic piece of shit, and little johnny's feelings get hurt. There is nothing illegal happening. Why should facebook get fined or whatever you are thinking for not removing me or my post? And mind you I think facebook is repulsive and would love nothing more than for it to wither away into the likes of myspace. I however don't like how so many people seem to be pushing the "Facebook has to do it because its illegal for the government to censor!!" They are basically admitting they they hate free speech.

    5. Re:Fear of regulator by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      They should decide if they are 'common carriers' and just run 'wires' or if they control speech on their platform.

      If they control it, they are liable for _all_ of it.

      --
      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  4. Nah by ArylAkamov · · Score: 0, Troll

    Common rules that all social media sites need to adhere to, enforced by third-party bodies, to control the spread of harmful content

    A "common global framework" that means these laws are all standardised globally, rather than being substantially different from country to country

    Nah, go eat a dick.

  5. Clean up your own shit by DogDude · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Clean up your own shit, Fuckerberg. Your ad network is full of garbage because you have decided not to spend the money that it takes to keep it not shit-filled.

    Unfortunately for the rest of us, the truth is that your business model doesn't work if you have to pay humans to moderate content. But, don't worry. In the US, you can continue to buy Congresspeople, and the rest of us non-billionaires just have to eat shit. You'll be fine.

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    I don't respond to AC's.
    1. Re:Clean up your own shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I like your summary of the current state of things. It is "Spot On". Come out of the shadows. If we stand together and put these bastards in the ground, we can put a stop to it. Do not be cowered into posting anonymously. Stand up! I will stand with you!

      the pathetic living punchline that is impersonating gerald butler

    2. Re:Clean up your own shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Clean up your own shit, Fuckerberg. Your ad network is full of garbage because you have decided not to spend the money that it takes to keep it not shit-filled.

      Show me any online forum with a billion users that hasn't turned into a rotting cesspool of human shit. See what you utterly fail to understand here is this is nothing more than human behavior. 40 years ago it happened on Usenet. Today it happens on Facebook. Doesn't matter the platform; when enough humans get involved, shit happens.

    3. Re:Clean up your own shit by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 1

      Do not be cowered into posting anonymously.

      I'm not. You, however, apparently are.

    4. Re:Clean up your own shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your mom is cowed.

    5. Re:Clean up your own shit by Cmdln+Daco · · Score: 1

      Nobody knows if that is your real name. Anybody could sign up with it.

    6. Re:Clean up your own shit by thegarbz · · Score: 0

      Clean up your own shit, Fuckerberg.

      What shit? Who decides what is shit? Who decides what needs to be cleaned up? Are we okay letting terrorists throw recruitment ads on facebook? Okay with bullying? Okay with wrongthink, and the SJW definition of sexism?

      There are calls to ban all of these. There are calls to let all of these on the platform. Regulating a wide range of different opinions on what is and isn't good for society is precisely a part of why governments exist.

    7. Re:Clean up your own shit by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      That may not be his actual name, but that moniker can be examined and seen whether the views espoused are consistent. ACs on the other hand can argue both sides of an issue just to stir up shit and no one would know.

      Feel free to examine my posting history to see if this is consistent with my previous posts.

    8. Re:Clean up your own shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ACs on the other hand can argue both sides of an issue just to stir up shit and no one would know.

      Yeah, no one would ever use TWO accounts to stir up shit. Impossible!! Internet Research Agency, what's that?

      Only shallow thinkers fetishize accounts, they are just as anonymous as ACs.

    9. Re:Clean up your own shit by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Lets just do the progressive thing and ban ALL speech on the internet. No forums, no chat, no communicating. That's where were headed anyways. Progress yay!

    10. Re:Clean up your own shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Great alt-logic there dude.

    11. Re: Clean up your own shit by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

      For instance Russia is very progressive in that vain.

    12. Re: Clean up your own shit by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

      He doesnâ(TM)t use logic. Her argues emotionally. He anonymously also challenges anonymous people to fights.

    13. Re: Clean up your own shit by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      yay i have a creepy old stalker!

    14. Re: Clean up your own shit by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      So is china, I however like free speech, and even if I don't like your opinion I am not advocating others to silence you.

    15. Re: Clean up your own shit by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

      I like slapping you around. How is life in that shitty little hovel you call an apartment. Weekly and monthly rates!!!! ðYoe

    16. Re: Clean up your own shit by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

      Being a libertarian I believe in freedom above all, even for a shit stain like you. Facebook has externalities that it has to deal with though to bring in those mad Benjaminâ(TM)s for its investors.

    17. Re: Clean up your own shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Facebook (and all social media) have been massively controlling content from the beginning. That's how they make money - their AI figures out what content is most addictive to their users and keeps showing them more of it so they will stick around and view more ads too.

      The alt-blight are just pissed that facebook and youtube won't let them be quite as big of free-riders on that monetization train any more.

    18. Re: Clean up your own shit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      lol, you are stalking yourself, you freak. SocietyoftheFist, GeraldButler and HighDude702 are all just alters of the same sad sack.

    19. Re: Clean up your own shit by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

      Stretching a little far there. I'm me. I'm me on various platforms as this name. I don't have the type of mental problems that cause me to chase people around slashdot pretending to be others. If I want to troll I just go AC.

    20. Re: Clean up your own shit by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

      LOL, tell me, was that base address without full attribution real?

  6. it is his problem not governments by renegade600 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    sounds more like he is trying to save money and get the government to foot the bill for moderating his and others websites.

    1. Re:it is his problem not governments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This is the simple, obvious answer. FOSTA/SESTA/SOPA/PIPA/whatever it ended up being called is going to ruin small user-driven websites. Probably the goal. Nice win for Facebook. Now, if they can somehow just pass on the post to the government while remaining "private" (despite being obviously in cahoots with the spooks), that would be a slam dunk win.

    2. Re:it is his problem not governments by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Despite my distaste for the guy I'll say in his defense he shouldn't have to pay for it. It is the government and officials many of you voted for that is causing him to have these costs and views (ie threats from the FTC and similar organizations in the EU). While I shouldn't be responsible for covering the costs, given I neither use Facebook nor voted for censorship laws nor politicians elected (I did vote, just not for anybody who would do this shit) I do think the people who voted these politicians in should cover the cost now. People who don't vote for government censorship, roads, schools, police, etc should not be burdened with the costs where they do not utilize them nor voted for them. I will pay my security bill and you can choose to pay or not pay yours to whichever degree you so choose. I personally want some security, but I don't feel any need to use or advocate for violence on others to cover the costs and achieve that security. ie Government action is violence or threat thereof. Try not paying your taxes and see where they put you. Refuse to go with them.. ouch.. it's going to hurt.

    3. Re:it is his problem not governments by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      sounds more like he is trying to save money and get the government to foot the bill for moderating his and others websites.

      Hardly. I don't see anything that would make it cheaper for Facebook there, especially not with reporting requirements. I see it as he wants a target to work against, rather than the ever moving target that is the general opinions on speech at large. "Don't censor terrorism, free speech!" "Some guy posted that he went in a manhole, Facebook should delete this blatent sexism".

      Multiple moving targets can never be hit at once which is precisely why government regulation exists.

  7. Mark Zuckerberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Mark Zuckerberg is THE biggest threat to the internet that the world has ever seen.

    Mark Zuckerberg is a threat to everything the internet was. He's a threat to openness, freedom, end user control, and privacy.

    He's a threat to our societies outside the internet, too. His power grab is making ripples in a much bigger pond.

    Some people even think he is a threat to the very idea of independent thought.

  8. Don't Forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The previous Net Neutrality policy and the proposed Net Neutrality legislation pretty much sets the stage for government to do this kind of thing.

    1. Re: Don't Forget by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why do you think billions of BizX bucks have been crammed down slashdot's throat to promote the Net Neuterality garbage?

  9. Zuckerberg is a Tool by schmaustech · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Zuckerberg is the typical tool who calls upon the government to bail him out of a problem he can't solve himself. Maybe he should check from the original Facebook authors he stole the code from maybe they have ideas he cant seem to come up with. Better yet lets close down Facebook. Its not the internet that is the problem is the CEO's with no technical aptitude that need to go.

    1. Re:Zuckerberg is a Tool by rmdingler · · Score: 1

      Maybe he should check from the original Facebook authors he stole the code from maybe they have ideas he cant seem to come up with.

      Had they not been holding a justifiable grudge against their Machiavellian business partner, I'm pretty sure The Monozygotic Rowers would've likely recommended converting a few of his 2013 $billions into the Bitcoin Ponzi scheme.

      Dear Mark,

      In April 2013, the Winklevoss twins together held $11 million in bitcoin priced at $120 a coin. That holding grew to be worth more than $1 billion in December 2017 as the price of one coin surpassed $11,700.

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      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

  10. Just fucking break them up already by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sherman FTW of all mankind

  11. Control.... Content.... Government.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of these things, is not like the other...

    Looks like FB usefulness, for whatever that was, has officially past its mark. Again!

    Tell me again why a social media platform, who makes money hand over fist, needs the... Government to help it out?

    He really does just give reason after reason for people to leave that platform doesn't he...

  12. Screw You Mark - take RESPONSIBILITY by charliemerritt03 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Screw You Mark - take RESPONSIBILITY

    I think he just wants the .gov to take the heavy lifting while he take the PROFITS. No I say. Let the White Right blab hate and take the consequences. The .gov's responsibility is to thump you when you put profits over oversight. Your platform, your responsibility.

    1. Re:Screw You Mark - take RESPONSIBILITY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you could just take responsibility for your own actions and stop using Facebook. But no.. you nuts don't believe in personal responsibility. You see there is a difference between government and facebook no matter if both are evil. You don't have a choice with government which makes it the worser of the two evils. I don't know if you are a conservative or a lefty- but it makes little difference. You guys both advocate for violence and increasing government expenditures. Maybe the republicans refuse to oblige immediate collection thereof, but it's not like the debts don't keep going up no matter how much taxes are "cut" and so ultimately they too are equally as bad as the democrats. Personally you are all socialists just redirecting other peoples money at different groups/industries/people/etc.

    2. Re:Screw You Mark - take RESPONSIBILITY by johannesg · · Score: 1

      Let the White Right blab hate

      So what is this statement supposed to be? An expression of love and goodness? Or does it throw together a race and a political conviction, and then blindly assume that anyone of that race or conviction automatically "blabs hate"?

      And that gets +4 insightful. You people disgust me.

    3. Re:Screw You Mark - take RESPONSIBILITY by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Screw You Mark - take RESPONSIBILITY

      How? Please list out the complete requirements. When you're done run it through congress once and the Zuck gets exactly what he asked for.

      The .gov's responsibility is to thump you

      For that to happen there needs to be rules in place, incidentally this is precisely what he asked for.

    4. Re:Screw You Mark - take RESPONSIBILITY by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Exactly. He wants to avoid scrutiny of his business model, which seeks to increase user engagement at whatever cost---even at the cost of promoting hate speech simply because it gathers attention and clicks.

      He wants governments not to consider the real problem, namely that companies like Facebook do everything in their power to turn people into imbecile link-clicking machines, which tends to (surprise!) take away their capacity for thought and reflection, and increase their chances of buying into random conspiracies or hate speech of whatever form.

      He wants to hide the fact that Facebook is a major player in the forces currently turning people into idiots.

    5. Re:Screw You Mark - take RESPONSIBILITY by Rolgar · · Score: 1

      Make him pay the salaries of every government worker/agency that works on his problem. When they are crap and more expensive, perhaps he will decide to foot the bill, unless he can't get them to get rid of the regulations that he's asked for.

  13. the 1st amendment will make it hard / long court by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    the 1st amendment will make it hard / end up with long list of court cases.

  14. ONLY the government should police Internet content by timeOday · · Score: 4, Interesting

    There have long been laws against certain things like child porn, plagiarism, and defamation. There is a democratic process for drawing these boundaries, and a formal justice system for interpreting and enforcing them. When policing speech is delegated to universities, private companies, etc. they can draw the boundaries a lot tighter, and enforce them arbitrarily. We'd be better off if Facebook, youtube etc acted as common carriers more or less.

  15. Zuck is trying to burn competitors by JoeyRox · · Score: 5, Interesting

    He knows the government is about to come down hard on Facebook, which would put them at a competitive disadvantage vs other advertising-based giants like Google, so rather than take that hit alone he wants everyone to suffer the same fate so they don't gain any advantage on him.

    1. Re:Zuck is trying to burn competitors by AndrewFlagg · · Score: 1

      didn't Ajit Pai face and him room and play the board game LIFE together? probably their mastermind plan is working... for $1 million dollars.. no wait... for $1 billion dollars. no wait.. $100 billion dollars..... sit down.. short stack.. ;-) we have a world to wreck havoc on via this protocol called http and sms... bwwaaaa haaaa haaaa...

  16. Surprised? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He's also a big believer in disarming the public. The ultimate Nazi of the new world order.

  17. More censorship and more ads by AHuxley · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Common rules: Set by Germany over history? Spain over Catalonia? Communist China over the real China Taiwan? The UK over word use online?

    Release a transparency report: The EU can show who got reported and removed. How many internet users are getting interviewed by police about their use of words online. What new tax was paid on every internet link in the EU.

    Stronger laws around the world to protect the integrity of elections. Support one side of politics. Talk about any other politics and get removed and reported.

    Laws to apply outside of official campaign periods. The freedom to support one side of politics before and after any approved election.

    New industry-wide standards. No freedom of speech. No freedom after speech. Blasphemy laws can be used globally.

    More countries to adopt privacy laws like the European Union. A EU link tax and more EU censorship.

    A "common global framework". Censorship.

    Clear rules about who's responsible for protecting people's data. Ad brands get to have their approved ads track users globally. No ad blocking software.

    All enforced by NGO's, political parties, theocracies, ad brands, police, think tanks, the EU, social media brands and mil govs.
    Freedom of speech and freedom after speech is looking great again.

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    1. Re:More censorship and more ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Common rules: Set by Germany over history? Spain over Catalonia? Communist China over the real China Taiwan? The UK over word use online?

      You forgot to add : USA over nudity. North Korea over existence of Unicorns. Japan over scientific validity of whaling.

      Among others...

    2. Re:More censorship and more ads by AHuxley · · Score: 1

      Argentina over the Falkland Islands.
      New Zealand over everything online.
      Canada over the political reporting about an engineering company.
      South Africa on any reporting about land reforms.
      A cult on their "books" that are getting talked about online.
      Communist leaders on funny bear cartoons and books like 1984.
      Everyone will want total social media censorship and control.

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      Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
    3. Re: More censorship and more ads by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Last I checked, it was the UK regulating porn, not the US. Projecting by any chance?

    4. Re:More censorship and more ads by geekymachoman · · Score: 1

      Yeah! Better have it set by Vaxxers, Anti-Vaxxers, Pro-Immigration, Anti-Immigration, Globalists, Anti Globalists.. and let them define what "hate" speech is, what "fake" news is.

      The only solution is to stop policing altogether, if you can't handle facebook posts, how the fuck are you going to handle life ?

      I say throw them in the water, like mother bird pushes baby birds of a cliff to learn flying. You are not separate from nature, stop isolating yourself from it.

      Fuck the censors, be it government or private.

  18. As An American by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 4, Interesting

    We have free speech, so as long as his company is based in the US no government has the right to "police content," even on his shit-tier platform.

    1. Re:As An American by dryeo · · Score: 1

      Actually any other government could block his shit tier platform from their country

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    2. Re:As An American by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One word - libel. Another, section 230. If you curate, you're liable for content. Law not yet applied to the big boys, but that's simply because pols are afraid they'll be destroyed by that "free speech" before they can do anything effective.

    3. Re:As An American by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      There is no country with 'absolute' free speech. Some are more free than others, but they always have some exceptions. The US, for example, has laws which allow for censorship and prosecution of the speaker on grounds of copyright infringeent, libel, national security, obscenity, and incitement to violence.

    4. Re:As An American by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      That's not an American law, the concept is against the constitution.

    5. Re:As An American by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      There are no valid laws against free speech thanks to the constitution.

    6. Re:As An American by SuricouRaven · · Score: 1

      A matter that has been put before the courts many times, and their view is the only one that matters. They have concluded that speech may be regulated under certain narrowly defined circumstances. They also concluded that obscene material is not 'real' speech, though they never did manage to work out a consistent definition for it.

    7. Re:As An American by NicknameUnavailable · · Score: 1

      Free speech is free speech, doesn't matter the type. The only thing illegal is outright an directed (personal) threats which appear to be legitimate.

  19. I want users to be paid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Everyone who posts anything on FB is contributing content for which FB profits from. Everyone who publishes content should be paid.

  20. Start by policing yourself, dickwad by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fuckerberg wants the government to police social media..., and âoenewsâ sites report this jackasses opinion as if it is news.

    Who needs policing? How about Fuckerberg?

    Do people not remember seeing him and his Silicon Valley buddies protesting against having to respect users rights to privacy, marching through Cupertino chanting... NO MEANS YES, YES MEANS ANALYTICS!

    LOL

  21. Decentralized computing / blockchain will take off by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When you can no longer share freely on centralized systems.

  22. Money: by Hartree · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Money is what this is about.

    Zuck's comments can be boiled down to: It costs us too much money to maintain a hoard of people and machines to monitor the content on our sites. We want the government to take over that expense to both lay it at the feet of the taxpayer and take over the bad PR censoring and making decisions on content gets us.

    1. Re:Money: by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      Right on.

      Of course, he realizes that though the government enjoys reaping the fruits of surveillance that social media provides, they would have reason to support the status quo... where they're not involved in either budgeting it or being blamed when it doesn't go well.

      Perhaps he's less dimwitted than we originally suspected, and he's busy reminding the government the rather gratuitous service he provides.

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      Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know.

      Ernest Hemingway

  23. Translation by nehumanuscrede · · Score: 1

    Zuckerberg wants to retain all the benefits ( data mining ) that Facebook currently enjoys with the people that are connected via his platform.
    However, he wants to dump the responsibilities for moderating said platform on anyone but Facebook.

    This way, if $objectionable_item_of_the_month is found on Facebook, it's not Facebook's fault.

    Requires a lot of time, effort and money to police your own systems when they get this big. Especially when you start taking
    into account that different countries have different laws / rules you must adhere to if you want to keep a presence there.

  24. Big companies always favor regulation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    The bigger a company is, the more easily it can withstand regulatory compliance costs, while its smaller competitors will go out of business or get bought out by larger ones. There are countless examples in history. It's about money, pure and simple.

  25. Well, hereâ(TM)s an idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Force people to select the people they want to see their messages. (Think reply all in emails)

    For all messages that go âpublicâ(TM), hold them till reviewed by a human.

    Oh - you canâ(TM)t make obscene profits any more? Cry me a river.

  26. Re:Dropping "Anti-JUDEN" bomb 4 ZuckerJEW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hehehe look at Chaime KIKE censoring fact JEWS themselves put out from their own history and book of law the talmud: Hide it! Can't let goy non-jews know we want to BROWN THEM OUT

  27. The easy way out... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Sounds like Zuck want to take the easy way out. Have the government set the rules, so when Facebook fails again and again, he can fall back on, "But in every case we followed the letter of the regulation" and it is all no longer his problem, and he can keep raking in profit while taking no responsibility at all for the consequences of his creation.

  28. I Pity Inanimate Objects Because They Cannot Move by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Data wants to be free. It told me so.

  29. Know who's behind all media bs: JEWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

    2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H

  30. Prima facie absurd by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    - Stronger laws around the world to protect the integrity of elections, with common standards for all websites to identify political actors

    Precisely how could laws protect the integrity of elections? What integrity? Do you mean integrity as in no invalid votes casted (or a sufficiently low quantity that they can't have any kind of measurable effect)? Do you mean integrity as in everyone gets the vote they put into the system? Do you mean integrity as in everybody is on the ballot? Do you mean integrity as in districting is fair? Do you mean integrity as in the result represents the will of the majority? Do you mean integrity as in the only influence that should be exerted is domestic influence?

    There are a lot of different things that might contribute to the "integrity" of an election. The way this is written makes it sound like there's a result of an election and the wrong one has happened and so the correct result needs to be arrived at in the future. This is authoritarian horseshit.

    If you want to talk about the integrity of the actual votes, your #1 target should be Diebold or whatever its name is now, not Facebook. There's no reason why the hardware used to do voting or the process should be private and not auditable. We need to go back to having some kind of paper voting, whether that's an auditable paper that a machine produces or straight up written votes. Technology can too easily be attacked and the attacks would allow very fast and widespread corruption of the process if applied. I agree wholeheartedly in this type of election integrity and think it's immensely important for the system to have the guarantees of paper.

    If you want to talk about districting, more than D or R being on the ballot, proportional representation, or the electoral system being direct democracy, those are fair conversations to have, but Facebook has nothing to do with any.

    If you want to talk about influence, you're throwing stones in glass houses, first off. The United States is the #1 meddler in the affairs of other countries (which is essentially incontrovertible regardless of whether you agree or disagree with the meddling). If it's wrong for other countries to do it, why isn't it wrong for us to do it? I'm personally of the opinion that we shouldn't be doing it or at least certainly not so broadly and we should accept that it will be attempted on us. It's our responsibility as individuals to deal with that possibility. I don't have to reconcile my opinions with what I think should happen because there's no incongruity. The person that would espouse the line above does need to reconcile those things.

    Secondly, how would you attempt to categorize influence? Honestly, there are prominent ideologies right now that will claim that everything is political. Which means in their belief system, literally everything is the result of influence. Is somebody talking on the news without strictly dry facts over in Spain going to run afoul of these laws and get arrested if they visit? Extradited if they do it on social media? They have an opinion and as a result of engaging the public, are legitimately performing a function of influence. The problem is not that this canard of "fake news" exists, it's that some people - and I would argue few enough that it's probably not actually a significant problem - accept it at face value and that's that. Some people take The Onion as a real outlet. They (at least historically, I haven't read in a spell) make no attempt to indicate that they're not a real outlet. Whatever your definition of "fake news," The Onion would fall under it.

    You can't stop that and these people have a vote. You can't stop them from having a vote. Attacking this problem from the government or institutional level is authoritarian horseshit. It must be the individual's responsibility to sort through the information and make their own decisions. This is not negotiable. If you get to make decisions about what these people can and can't see or make judgments about ho

  31. Govt to Zuckie... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Sure fine. Pay up some taxes Zuckie dear." Not 2% either.... and the whole decade+ of backtaxes too!
    Google, Facebook, etc have turned the world into an ungovernable mess, and now throw up their hands (while pocketing billions of dollars) and ask for "help with regulation." What to do, oh what to do?
    Ever appropriate prescriptive captcha: oblivion

  32. In Mark's defense: by Petersko · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Government(s): "Fix it so it's better!"

    Mark: "What would you like it to look like?"

    Governments: "We don't know! You decide! But we'll know it if we see it, and will punish you if we don't like it!" ...He's just asking for the kind of regulatory oversight that most communications businesses eventually receive.

    I don't do Facebook and I wish it would go away. But he's not wrong here.

    1. Re:In Mark's defense: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What does it look like? Providing a carriage service for anything that breaks the Law or promotes breaking of a Law.
      Its not hard to quantify.

  33. Know thy enemy (JEWS like Suckerberg) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

    2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H

  34. Cue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Dumb fucks"

  35. So.. by msauve · · Score: 0

    Like any good "liberal", Zuck want the government to pay for the problem he's created.

    --
    "National Security is the chief cause of national insecurity." - Celine's First Law
  36. JEWS like Suckerberg want u dead/browned out by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

    2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H

  37. Re:He's JEW & you show part of their controlgr by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hehehe look at Chaime KIKE censoring fact JEWS themselves put out from their own history and book of law the talmud: Hide it! Can't let goy non-jews know we want to BROWN THEM OUT!

  38. Of course he does by Chris+Mattern · · Score: 2

    That way, he doesn't have to pay for any of it and totally absolved of any responsibility.

  39. social networks distort sound judgement by edris90 · · Score: 1

    how about we just legally recognize social networks 8n the same manner we recognize other subversive addictions. like we do with the feedback cycle of an abusive relationship, or a crack addiction, and remove any legitamite commercial ave. if people want a sociAl neyworks, they better not involve money. lets push them to the dark web and out of casual influence in pop culture.

  40. Think so? Not in the JEWnited states by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

    2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H

  41. The only solution is dissolution of Facebook by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    - Common rules that all social media sites need to adhere to, enforced by third-party bodies, to control the spread of harmful content

      - All major tech companies to release a transparency report every three months, to put it on a par with financial reporting

      - Stronger laws around the world to protect the integrity of elections, with common standards for all websites to identify political actors

      - Laws that not only apply to candidates and elections, but also other "divisive political issues", and for laws to apply outside of official campaign periods

      - New industry-wide standards to control how political campaigns use data to target voters online

      - More countries to adopt privacy laws like the European Union's General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR), which came into force last year

      - A "common global framework" that means these laws are all standardised globally, rather than being substantially different from country to country

      - Clear rules about who's responsible for protecting people's data when they move it from one service to another

    MZ isn't the only one ideas.

    - Mercilessly berate anyone and everyone still using Facebook

    - Block ALL Facebooks domains and networks on systems and networks you manage.

    - Lodge complaints with all public facing companies still advertising on Facebook

    - Shit post content on Facebook critical of each and every advertiser

    - File lawsuits against every website on the planet using Facebook tracking bugs

    - Launch Ad campaigns critical of Facebook

    - Rigorous campaign of publically shaming employees of Facebook

    - Contact your gov representatives to express concern for Facebook on privacy and anti-trust grounds.

    - Troll MZ anywhere he makes a public appearance.

    - Large scale persistent protests on and around 1-hacker way

  42. What a fucking cunt. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    These globalists must be stopped.

  43. Re:ONLY the government should police Internet cont by _Sharp'r_ · · Score: 1

    Exactly. Facebook and others who support a wide range of views (unlike a single topic forum, or something like that) should just accept that some people will be offended some of the time. They should block illegal stuff and and leave everything else alone as a platform.

    At the same time, they can still create easy ways for people to voluntarily restrict what they see. If you don't want anything from group X, or about topic Y, then make it easy if that shows up to just block it from your feed so it no longer exists for you.

    Yeah, they'll get accused of "supporting" Z when really they're just tolerating Z, just like they tolerate everything else, but going beyond that to pick sides in cultural wars and the like doesn't end well. There is a bright line of legal/illegal, stick to that and tell the people who complain how to block it for themselves.

    --
    The party of stupid and the party of evil get together and do something both stupid and evil, then call it bipartisan.
  44. woosh! They are only helping the Police. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    i must agree the average police department station has a terrible internet presence; i cant txt to dispatch, cant sms gateway to a field officer to coordinate with my failed drug exchange. their website is written in what, pdf2html CGI? Police traffic on theirvwebsite may as well be autogen by a bipolar man schizzofrennic monkey err MCSE College student loan defaulted dropout.

  45. Re: REAL problem's JEWS behind the scenes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why cant slashdot bury this shit its really long horrible and hard to scroll past on a phone.

  46. This by Brett+Buck · · Score: 1

    It's much easier for Facebook to be able to treat the entire world the same way. That shows him as another filthy megalomaniac globalist. Countries still exist, the want to determine their own course, fuck Zuckerberg and anyone that tries to stand in the way of free speech and personal liberty.

  47. Big business by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

    Big business loves regulation. They can afford whole departments to comply with it, but small upstart competitors can't.

  48. Oh really? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zuckerberg is right. The government ought to regulate the Internet, starting with an anti-trust breakup of the Facebook monopoly.

  49. Re: REAL problem's JEWS behind the scenes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Beg to HIDE\DELETE\CENSOR (like Suckerberg) fact you don't and can't deny in the jew tradition of lies noted from your talmud in that post? Jew you're undone.

  50. Rich boy wants you to subsidize his business by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Why doesn't rich boy hire editors and filter out dubious content himself? Oh right, that would cost him money.

  51. This is genius... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    They've seen the winds are blowing and are trying to manipulate it so that they are the governments "partner". Why? Because governments have demonstrated time and again that they view "privacy" as something that applies to the private sector, not to government agencies. They feel it's their right (and duty honestly) to be able to know anything and everything you do online (yes, they propose "safeguards" but those are always controlled by the same government, which means they're speed bumps at most).

    An ideal situation for Facebook is having governments:

    1. Tell Facebook they have to log anything and everything.
    2. Tell Facebook they can't disclose what they log because "National Security".

    Facebook would of course b*tch and moan an appropriate amount when being "forced" into this, only to laugh their asses off when they were back in the office.

  52. Trust me, I'm from the government... by uncqual · · Score: 4, Informative

    ...or even better a third party authorized by the government.

    Common rules that all social media sites need to adhere to, enforced by third-party bodies, to control the spread of harmful content

    And, exactly, who will decide what "harmful content" is. Perhaps Trump? Perhaps AOC? Perhaps Sanders? Perhaps ISIS?

    Zuckerberg, go read the First Amendment - no, go ahead, I'll wait. There are no big words in it so you should be able to understand it eventually. Okay read it again. And, one more time, Very. Slowly. This. Time.

    Okay, now, did you notice the "abridge the freedom of speech, the freedom of the press" part?

    And, don't forget, some people think Facebook itself is "harmful".

    Laws that not only apply to candidates and elections, but also other "divisive political issues", and for laws to apply outside of official campaign periods

    See above.

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    1. Re:Trust me, I'm from the government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Zuckerberg, go read the First Amendment

      Why would that apply to non-citizens, or outside of the US?
      How does anyone know if you are a citizen or inside the US?

      The same laws that don't protect a movie from being illegally distributed a million times? Well, they don't do so well protecting you either dipshit.

    2. Re:Trust me, I'm from the government... by uncqual · · Score: 1

      Since the op-ed was in the Washington Post, primarily a domestic United States publication with a primarily US readership, it's reasonable to assume that Zuckerberg was primarily addressing this at US lawmakers as there are no "international" lawmakers. The use of the word "need" implies a law or regulation of some sort.

      The First Amendment applies to all residents, not just citizens, of the United States. Of course it does not apply to residents of any other country in another country. As far as US citizens in another country, obviously the laws of that other country apply and the First Amendment doesn't matter in that case.

      Any law that the US Congress passed could not do what he requests without running afoul of the First Amendment.

      He, personally or on behalf of Facebook, is of course free to consult with any third party he desires to evaluate either his personal posts or all Facebook posts to determine if they are "harmful" and delete them if so. Obviously some Facebook users will detest this and stop using the platform. On the other hand, some Facebook users who like "safe spaces" will likely become more comfortable using Facebook and use it more -- assuming the third party agrees with them on what is "harmful". It's a simple business decision, no government involvement needed or helpful.

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    3. Re:Trust me, I'm from the government... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He is just being a good little democrat. Looking for more government regulation. More curtailing of free speech. More curtailing of our rights.

      Notice it is not the republicans calling for curtailing of free speech. It is the democrats. They had their own system of shit they have been using on the republicans for years force fed down their throats and they do not like it.

      The democrats across the board are calling for curtailing of all rights. Well... because they know better.

      Before 2016 I said there was one man who could make me vote for Hillary. That man was Donald Trump. Then I listened to her speeches then voted for Donald Trump. The rest of the DNC is no better. They have over the past 2 years got much much much worse. Instead they seem to be digging in deeper with their authoritarian bullshit.

    4. Re:Trust me, I'm from the government... by swillden · · Score: 1

      ...or even better a third party authorized by the government.

      Common rules that all social media sites need to adhere to, enforced by third-party bodies, to control the spread of harmful content

      And, exactly, who will decide what "harmful content" is.

      I think this is exactly the point. Right now it's increasingly looking like society -- and government -- are demanding that Facebook decide what "harmful content" is, and Facebook doesn't want that responsibility. And, honestly, do we really want Facebook to take it? I don't. I don't want government to do it either, but Zuckerberg's point is that if there's any appropriate body for making these decisions, it's governmental, not private enterprise.

      I suspect that Zuckerberg doesn't want the government taking this role either, but by pointing out that private industry absolutely should not be doing it, he's attempting to redirect all of the complaints that Facebook isn't doing an adequate job onto government. If he's successful at redirecting the public debate away from what Facebook should do and to what government should do, then the heat will be off of Facebook... and I think it's also pretty likely that the conclusion will be that since it's not private industry's job and we don't want government to do it, that means we don't want anyone to do it.

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  53. Shit I hate being right... by Chewbacon · · Score: 1

    Was having a conversation at work and we were talking about fake news and misinformation in general being harmful to people. I expressed my concern at the idea of, and my surprise people weren't talking about it already, misinformation becoming a crime and it becoming a slippery slope to the end of freedom of speech. This sounds like the first step in that direction thanks to Mr. Fuckerberg and his creation.

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    1. Re:Shit I hate being right... by ToasterMonkey · · Score: 1

      Was having a conversation at work and we were talking about fake news and misinformation in general being harmful to people. I expressed my concern at the idea of, and my surprise people weren't talking about it already, misinformation becoming a crime and it becoming a slippery slope to the end of freedom of speech. This sounds like the first step in that direction thanks to Mr. Fuckerberg and his creation.

      Freedom of speech will still be healthy, loud, and annoying long after regulatory requirements make it impossible for Mohammed in Iran to pretend to be Misha in Moscow on facebook.ru, and Mike in New York on facebook.com, and all the vice-versas.

      90% of the problem is nobody knows anything about anyone else online. The other 10% is human nature nothing can fix.

      Walmart won't even sell you a candy bar if you walk into the store with a bag over your head, but otherwise you are free to anonymously crop dust everyone in the greeting card isle and make fart noises with your mouth if that's your cup of tea. Problems like that are usually self-correcting... get kicked from store, physical altercations, play your hand in court, etc.

      Facebook will let the guy that dismembered Jamal Khashoggi open an account, pretend to be an Irish housewife, and post pictures of dead kittens, to a global audience. If they actually manage to prevent any part of that from happening, they will grumble and complain it's not their job, and someone will cry about censorship.

      Most of the actual problems with the Internet would fix themselves if we all said "what would meatspace do"

  54. Why not? by edibobb · · Score: 1

    We should let President Trump decide what is allowed on sites like Facebook and Slashdot. That way there's no more "enemy of the people." He knows what's best for us.

  55. Dear Mr .Zuckerberg... by rickb928 · · Score: 1

    Most of this trouble started when YOU started policing the Internet. And doing it badly.

    Please stop censoring your users when they offend you or the people you are allied with Leave it I

    I know you want the 'government' to 'help' police the Internet. But the Internet does not need policing, nor is it you or people like you who would be trustworthy policers of the Internet, or anything else. While you should not be trusted even with your own corporation and its platforms, they are yours to do with as you wish. Leave others alone, and do not harm those not yours.

    This will not go well for you or us if you persist.

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  56. Re:Jews can be controlled: Throttle their GOLD! by tepples · · Score: 1

    Please don't misquote the Talmud.

  57. \o/ by easyTree · · Score: 1

    How about some new laws restricting government expansionism?

    *Holds breath*

    1. Re: \o/ by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what the 2A is.

  58. "Disagree With" in a world of "Words Are Violence" by drnb · · Score: 1

    The problem is that content that people "don't agree with" is now what many consider restrictable, banable, equivalent to violence (or in their mind "actually" violence). The reaction to "offensive speech" is no longer to mock and ignore the speaker, it is now to silence the speaker (including the use of threats and force).

    I'm not sure we can count on a modern interpretation of "clearly illegal".

  59. We have good policy for what should be banned by drnb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually we have good policy for what should be banned, a tangible and realistic threat of violence.

    I am not a lawyer but my recollection from some readings I did a few years ago is that the US Supreme Court ruled that speech that tangibly threatens or incites violence can be banned. It all depends on the context of the speech not the words themselves, the context must include a tangible and realistic fear of violence. A satirical or rhetorical or similar threat would not be banned.

    Similarly having your feelings greatly hurt, your inner self denied or dismissed, etc would not count as violence no matter how much "pain" you feel.

    1. Re: We have good policy for what should be banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Deadnaming and misgendering trans folk is violence, you fucking Nazi.

    2. Re: We have good policy for what should be banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, it isn't, you fucking weirdo nazi.

    3. Re: We have good policy for what should be banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is no such thing as deadnaming or misgenderring. Trans are mentally ill and need psychological help and support. The one thing they absolutely do not need is some sick leftist dumbass coddling their illness and encouraging it, or worse helping them mutilate themselves.

    4. Re:We have good policy for what should be banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, tangible threats can be prosecuted. Banning is different.

    5. Re: We have good policy for what should be banned by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not to mention there are *real* people who have both sexes, they are hermaphrodites or intersex. I don't know if third sex or gender is a good way to describe them, I like to say "hermaphrodite" as this was the word used in the 20th century or prior.
      So, on top of issues they may have they now get to be associated to vocal and outspoken trans, professional victims, internet shaming campaigns, blue haired bearded women etc.
      Mainstream media in my part of the world has switched to using "LGBTI" instead of "LGBT". They're not talking about transsexual children yet - it's not much a thing here yet and I think the legal system in my country might not allow chemical castration of minors. But perhaps this controversy will be launched when the government tries to do something heinous like dismantling public healthcare or pensions. The outrage competition and divisive fringe issues are probably used to distract the public from real issues to help the authoritarian liberal globalists do their dirty things not related to sex and sexes. like that goddamn Article 13 that will be used for censorship of environmentalist and syndicalists.

    6. Re:We have good policy for what should be banned by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

      Actually we have good policy for what should be banned, a tangible and realistic threat of violence.

      So where does so called 'hate groups' fit in to this? Banned or allowed?

      Espousing hatred toward a group of people for whatever reasons doesn't necessarily include threats of violence, afterall.

      This is where we get in trouble. A majority of people think 'hate groups' should be banned. But in my view, as abhorrent as these groups are, they probably should be protected speech, as long as there's no encouragements of violence within that speech.

      A goodly portion (majority for sure) probably think 'hate groups' and their associated speech (websites, publications, etc) should be outright banned. Just look at what happened to Daily Stormer's website. Blackballed from the internet, probably running on a .onion site now, not that I would know. But it's a good example.

      I could go on, racists, anti-Semitic, anti-gay, etc etc.. all these forms of speech are opinions and don't necessarily include threats or encouragement of violence. Banned or allowed?

      What about hatred of political parties? The can of worms we're opening here goes quite deep, and it's all pretty gray and difficult.

    7. Re: We have good policy for what should be banned by duke_cheetah2003 · · Score: 1

      Deadnaming and misgendering trans folk is violence, you fucking Nazi.

      To be 100% clear, if it's just words, it's not violence. Sorry about that. Come back when someone threatens to beat you up with a baseball bat. That's violence.

      Words are NEVER violence, no matter how offended they make you, or how hurtful they might be.

      Violence is a physical act (or threat of physical act) against your person.

      Please learn the use your words correctly before you post again. Thanks.

  60. Re:Money and blame shifting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He doesn't want the government to take over that expense.

    He wants regulation so that everyone has the same expense. There's also the problem that he gets attacked for speech reasons if he does it voluntarily. If the government mandates it and facebook does it, you can no longer blame facebook.

  61. More like, trying to regulate his competition by melted · · Score: 3, Insightful

    More like, Zuck is trying to regulate his competition to death, while also absolving himself from the shit that's going on on his platform. This strategy worked for many a megacorp. Megacrops can afford the costs of compliance. Smaller companies can't.

  62. Regulatory capture. How predictable. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The banks must issue a Rules for Monopolists policy book when you deposit your second billion. All I got was a lunch with Peter Lynch.

  63. Faceberg at it again by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No wonder these shits love China so much. They see it as a model.

  64. Duh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Duh

  65. Zuckerberg is a Commie by flajann · · Score: 1

    Well, it's a puerile response from me, and just what the hell is "harmful content", anyway? Smells like leftist claptrap to me. Oh boy, let's make it criminal to hurt your precious little darling feelings. And thus, Free Speech is dead.

    1. Re:Zuckerberg is a Commie by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      certified psychopaths like Marky Suck belong behind bars really.

  66. shifting the blame and being blameless by AndrewFlagg · · Score: 1

    at first glance, shifting the blame of ones actions of self-governance is not a good idea. government is to manage and regulate good public policy. the FB TOS basically says, we are a public bulletin board. you put up a note and the public is free to read it, copy and paste it, do whatever. if you put another sticky over your note that says, for my friends only instead of public, then that means for their friends only (except we at Facebook can look at it too to determine if we should allow it and of course digest it and disseminate however we feel froggy). good stuff. here is my recipe for chocolate chip cookies i bought for 25 with a coupon from inside a box of cereal.

  67. Regulatory Capture play proves obsolesence by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    When the early entrants into any marke achieve market dominance, and then see they are no longer abler to achieve high growth, generally due to market saturation and dominance, they invite big government into the market to heavily regulate it, effectively raising a drawbridge of paperwork and legal fees blocking any smaller, leaner, more innovative upstarts to arise and compete against them.

    Facebook: Welcom to the Boeing, Airbus, Honeywell, GE, LockheedMartin, etc club of ossified monster companies with no fear of new competitors and no prospects for future dynamism.

    A cannot, for the life of me, understand why ANYBODY with a brain has a facebook page, with the exception of businesses and politicians who's "experts" advice this to be necessary (advice that would dissappear if everybody else was off).

  68. Fox telling the farmer how to guard the henhouse by Rick+Schumann · · Score: 1

    Zuckerberg needs to shut the fuck up.

  69. Re: I've got one that can see (JEWS & their s by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Lol, oh noes! You caught us! We Jews have been p,toying the take over of Hollywood and the banks since we got kicked out of Egypt thousands of years ago! But! Since you have revealed our nefarious plot on /. we will have to move our timeline up a thousand years! We tried to get rid of Trump, the anti-Jew, with a fake report leading to the fake investigation, reported on by Jew owned fake cnn but were thwarted by anti-Jew Trunp!

  70. Dr Fraken-Berg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He created this monster and now he's losing control of it rapidly, he has finally admitted he doesn't know how and needs help. Zuck has always looked like a lost little kid, he's still got that college kid mentality and he's needed to grow up for quite some time. I'd like to think he's finally admitted his "monster" is out of control but I think it's a case that if the Govs around the world help him, then they can share the blame and take some of the heat off him.

    Sorry Zuck, we simply don't trust you, take your billions and go away please before you do any more damage to humanity.

  71. "Come at me bro" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He did this to pit politicians against each other. All of the "one world standard" part is to protect himself from being jailed in australia.

  72. So you want to cull the 1st ammendment now, Mark? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    F*ck off

  73. zucky is a government monkey. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    in any case working for the elites agenda. The one that states only the rich are allowed to survive.

  74. Re: ONLY the government should police Internet con by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    You can't be a common carrier "more or less". Either you are, or you aren't.

    Facebook isn't. Its business model depends on making value judgements about the content people post. It's a publisher, simple as that.

    It still amazes me how people don't see that.

  75. Crying out for help ? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is he ? Because he knows his demon can"t be stopped in doing what it wants.

  76. does this mean... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    if they leave the policing of content to authorities, that only illegal stuff is removed, and whatever local rules they made up themselves no longer matter, e.g. suddenly naked skin is OK?

  77. Moat by vakuona · · Score: 1

    Mark Zuckerbeg really wants the government to construct a moat around his business to make sure that other companies will find it difficult to break his stranglehold over social networking.

  78. why not? microsoft is the internet police... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    why not have facebook in charge of internet censorship? microsoft is already part of law enforcement, taking down web sites and policing the internet...

  79. Fuck The Zuck by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Rich people think they own the Internet.

  80. Re:Jews can be controlled: Throttle their GOLD! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing is misquoted. Cut your crap JEW.

  81. Problem's JEW manipulation behind the scenes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    1. Sanhedrin 59a: "Murdering Goyim is like killing a wild animal."

    2. Abodah Zara 26b: "Even the best of the Gentiles should be killed."

    3. Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    4. Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    5. Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    6. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    7. Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    8. Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    9. Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    10. Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    11. Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    12. Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    13. Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    14. Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    15. Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    16. Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    17. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    18. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    19. Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    20. Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    21. Schulchan Aruch, Choszen H

  82. Can JEWS be controlled? Throttle their GOLD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to

  83. JEWS can be controlled: Throttle their GOLD by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to

  84. The belief system of Mark JEWberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to

  85. Trust JEW.S.A.\JEWnited states boughtoff govt by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Khazar Talmudic Jews believe this of all they call goyim/gentiles (any non-jew): Jews = biggest racists of all for which they "jew guilt" you for no less! They're hypocrites known as thieves all thru history or were Argentines in the 1940 under Peron, Spanish inquistion, France (1306), Egypt (despoiled/robbed by jews), Arabs (pre & post 1948), England (1330 Edward longshanks), Romans under titus, Russia pogroms and Germany who got rid of them from their nations nazi german's too? No. Driven into DESERTS ages ago! Don't wonder why after all those exilings above.

    Should anyone doubt any of this see Jacob Javits' crony Rosenthal spill the beans on it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4zMVZ8HnFI/ where he called all Christianity fools for helping Israel and the biggest scam of all time per their beliefs below from their Talmud.

    This is the province of the synagogue of Satan (Pharisees whom Jesus Christ himself kicked to the curb out of the temple & they killed him for it. Jeremiah did the same to them also + the Essenes could not stand them either breaking away from the pharisee corruption):

    Jew Talmud excerpts (the book that calls Christ's mother a whore & a bastard of a roman soldier):

    Sanhedrin 59a: "A goy (Gentile) who pries into The Law (Talmud) is guilty of death."

    Yebhamoth 11b: "Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age."

    Schabouth Hag. 6d: "Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording."

    Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Do not save Goyim in danger of death."

    Hilkkoth Akum X1: "Show no mercy to the Goyim."

    Choschen Hamm 388, 15: "If it can be proven that someone has given the money of Israelites to the Goyim, a way must be found after prudent consideration to wipe him off the face of the earth."

    Choschen Hamm 266,1: "A Jew may keep anything he finds which belongs to the Akum (Gentile). For he who returns lost property (to Gentiles) sins against the Law by increasing the power of the transgressors of the Law. It is praiseworthy, however, to return lost property if it is done to honor the name of God, namely, if by so doing, Christians will praise the Jews and look upon them as honorable people."

    Szaaloth-Utszabot, The Book of Jore Dia 17: "A Jew should and must make a false oath when the Goyim asks if our books contain anything against them."

    Baba Necia 114, 6: "The Jews are human beings, but the nations of the world are not human beings but beasts."

    Simeon Haddarsen, fol. 56-D: "When the Messiah comes every Jew will have 2800 slaves."

    Nidrasch Talpioth, p. 225-L: "Jehovah created the non-Jew in human form so that the Jew would not have to be served by beasts. The non-Jew is consequently an animal in human form, and condemned to serve the Jew day and night."

    Aboda Sarah 37a: "A Gentile girl who is three years old can be violated."

    Gad. Shas. 2:2: "A Jew may violate but not marry a non-Jewish girl."

    Tosefta. Aboda Zara B, 5: "If a goy kills a goy or a Jew, he is responsible; but if a Jew kills a goy, he is NOT responsible."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 388: "It is permitted to kill a Jewish denunciator everywhere. It is permitted to kill him even before he denounces."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 348: "All property of other nations belongs to the Jewish nation, which, consequently, is entitled to seize upon it without any scruples."

    Tosefta, Abda Zara VIII, 5: "How to interpret the word 'robbery.' A goy is forbidden to steal, rob, or take women slaves, etc., from a goy or from a Jew. But a Jew is NOT forbidden to do all this to a goy."

    Seph. Jp., 92, 1: "God has given the Jews power over the possessions and blood of all nations."

    Schulchan Aruch, Choszen Hamiszpat 156: "When a Jew has a Gentile in his clutches, another Jew may go to the same Gentile, lend him money and in turn deceive him, so that the Gentile shall be ruined. For the property of a Gentile, according to

  86. Re:Mark ZuckerJEW's beliefs on non-jews by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Fucking die already, nobody is reading your shit

  87. In other words by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm not going to change what I'm doing, so let's cut a deal so that it looks like *you* are. What a slime ball, and apparently he's forgotten that these are the people he lied to under oath. Fuck Zuck. I dearly hope they start locking these tech clowns up overseas.

  88. Governments CANNOT do this! by Applehu+Akbar · · Score: 1

    It would be a First Amendment violation or a government to get involved in policing Facebook as Zuckerberg wants to. Zuck exerts fine-grained control over the politics allowed on his platform with such actions as banning white separatist posting while allowing black separatist posts. Governments would Constitutionally be limited to policing the small number of specific First Amendment exceptions that have been judicially established over the years:
    https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/9...

  89. Re: ONLY the government should police Internet con by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    So facebook's business model is being the thought police? That's fucking retarded.

  90. Sure... our taxes will help improve your platform by dk20 · · Score: 1

    Why dont you keep doing everything you can to avoid paying taxes.. while asking the government to do more for you?

  91. Re: ONLY the government should police Internet co by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

    That isnâ(TM)t what he said. Facebook will decide what is best for its business by making judgements about what it allows to be published on its product and how they affect its ability to run its business. This can be guided by government regulations and public opinion. Do keep up.

  92. Zuckerberg by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Q: How do you know when Mark Zuckerberg is lying?

    A: When his lips are moving.

  93. Re: ONLY the government should police Internet co by Highdude702 · · Score: 1

    he literally said

    Facebook isn't. Its business model depends on making value judgements about the content people post.

    Thats "Thought police"

  94. Re: ONLY the government should police Internet co by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

    No, itâ(TM)s a private service. I donâ(TM)t think you can think critically. I can see why you think youâ(TM)re a victim and challenge people to fights on the internet.

  95. Re: ONLY the government should police Internet co by SocietyoftheFist · · Score: 1

    Youâ(TM)d be fired in two seconds if you were CEO and there was huge public outcry and your stock and public image were faltering you stood your ground going âoeno, that means we are the thought police! Your stockholders would say, were a publisher and your killing revenue!

  96. Mother by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    %#$@er
    Looks like he's a Democrat all right. He'll want to start burning books next.

  97. How about .. Don't Moderate by MonsterMasher · · Score: 1

    How about this;
    Don't moderate!

    Internet is for 14 year-olds and older.
    your child - your problem & responsibility to .. Parent.

    If a company is not a #Publisher,
    they can not Censor - unless illegal in the USA.

    What the F is wrong with U people? Really, U power grasping evil.

    https://twitter.com/StevWork/s...

  98. Monopoly by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He wants governments to help create a Monopoly.

  99. what's stopping him? by sad_ · · Score: 1

    most of his proposals he can just implement on facebook if he wants to, there is nobody saying that he can't.
    his proposals, his own social network, he doesn't need to wait for same laws to come into effect.

    --
    On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero.
  100. Protecting Elections by backwardsposter · · Score: 1

    "- Stronger laws around the world to protect the integrity of elections, with common standards for all websites to identify political actors"

    Yes and you know who's sure to follow these laws... government agencies!

  101. Re:ONLY the government should police Internet cont by strikethree · · Score: 1

    There have long been laws against certain things like child porn, plagiarism, and defamation.

    One of these things is not like the other. Can you guess which one it is?

    Child porn. Pictures of naked children, even in suggestive poses, was perfectly legal when I was a child.

    So no, not all of those have been illegal for a long time. Can you identify *WHY* the ban on child porn is so recent?

    Because, constitutionally, there is no basis for making it illegal and it is a direct infringement on the First Amendment.

    Go ahead, I will give you time. Think of *ANY* reason child porn should be illegal other than it is detestable. I can help a little with this...

    In order for child porn to be created, a child has to have something illegal done to them.

    Well, yeah, but I can go on the Internet right now and find a video documenting a person being carved into smaller and smaller pieces until that person is dead. All without anesthesia and without the permission of the person being murdered. As terrible as child abuse is, I would consider the act of carving up a person unwillingly is worse... and yet we can watch the Mexican drug cartels doing their thing up close and in technicolor... so, child porn is documentation of a crime, but it is not actually a crime itself... until you criminalize possession of certain 1s and 0s.

    Another reason is that the production of child porn can be done for money if the imagery is legal to sell. We all know how people are about money and it is guaranteed that people would find children to molest if they thought they could sell the images afterwards.

    You know what? This subject is too disturbing. I am done.

    TL;DR, child porn is documentation of a crime that is so heinous that the Attorney General at the time (80s?) thought that enacting a law counter to the Constitution was a worthwhile trade.

    --
    "Someone needs to talk to the tree of liberty about its ghoulish drinking problem." by ohnocitizen
  102. Gov't intervention = barriers to entry by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's completely natural that Zuckerberg should want government intervention. It passes responsibility for content and simultaneously puts up huge barriers to entry for new competition.

    Two birds, one stone.

  103. FB goal is to hamper competitive startups by schwit1 · · Score: 1

    “They will advocate some institutionalized changes in the way social media should work. Every change will involve compliance costs. Facebook will make sure that it can complyand that its competitors cannot without great expense. That will give them a distinct advantage in the marketplace, make it more difficult for startups to compete, and guarantee this platform a leading place by law. This is why Mark readily agreed to be regulated. Regulations always work to the advantage of the largest market players.

    https://www.aier.org/article/f...

  104. Re: I've got one that can see (JEWS & their sc by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Zuckerberg is a not a good guy, heâ(TM)s a devious, slimy snake and.......the chance of Trump getting re-elected grows ever single day....didnâ(TM)t need Russia the first time and definitely wonâ(TM)t need it this time when he runs against_____ (insert socialist name here)