I live in Toronto, Canada. The largest city in Canada, and it was completely peaceful. In fact, people with generators threw parties down town, there were a few djs spinning outside of a record shop, hooked up to a generator... Japanese food and wood oven cooked stuff was everywhere, and there was a real sense of community. Neighborhoods came alive with communal barbeques, and you could see the milky way so clearly at night. There was a real sense of beauty to everything. I brought water to the elderly women on the floor of the highrise i was in, and when the power came back, they brought me endless dishes of delicious indian food. Its one of my fondest memories of this city. So much that I've heard more than a few people wish we could have a "blackout night" once a month in the nicer summer months.. to erase our technology and embrace human culture, and nature, if only for a little while. I didn't even really think about my computer while the power was out, and I usually live on it.
I know there was a lot of damage and harm from all of it, but a lot of us experienced something beautiful.
I am incredibly pro-Linux, but you're clouding the issue, and words like yours can do more harm than good.
1. Installing a program isn't any harder. Windows install.. insert CD, click OK and Next a bunch of times and it's done. Linux install.. do an emerge, apt-get, swaret, etc, sit back and wait.
Ok, first of all... Give somebody a choice where they can either put in a cd and choose between "go back" or "next" - i think everyone will choose next. That is a pretty simple logic gate. On the other hand, there is no way that my mother will guess to "emerge, apt-get, swaret, etc". I mean shit - I can't even guess what the etc is... make, make install? Is this a troll? Do you really except any neophyte to be able to guess these cryptic commands, and find it easier than clicking on a "next" button?
search on linuxquestions.org or your distro's forums
Yeah - same goes for windows - search the net. Most users won't take that initiative, and will still have to call their geeky friend - but now they will have to call their extra-geeky friend who knows linux
Recompiling a kernel? It's really not that hard. There are a ton of walkthroughs
Brain surgery. Its really not that hard. There are a ton of schools.
How many times have you tried to install a piece of hardware where Windows didn't correctly recognize it
A lot less times than on linux, and i use linux a lot more than windows. At least try to understand linux's strong points to argue.
are there 78,919 projects hosted on sourceforge.net? That's an awful lot of software for such an unusable OS
Are all of those projects for the desktop? I could have sworn at least a few of them were for the server. And Nobody is calling linux unusable. The argument being presented is that Linux isn't ready for the average modern computer user. This may or may not be true. I am a desktop user of Linux myself.. and in my personal opinion, there are a lot of people not ready for a linux desktop yet. But its getting there. Try to keep the exaggerations and FUD to a minimum. If you can tell people Honestly the state of linux as it is, people won't feel ripped off when its not what they expected, and will be more likely to try it again later.
I have no doubt in my mind that soon enough, Linux will be ready for the desktop, for Everyone, but I don't think it is yet.
I'd love to see the look on the face of the IRS clerk when s/he looks at that line.
By my guess is that it will be competely bank. From my dealings with tax people, I've decided they aren't human... or at least humans capable of emotion.
It seems more and more questions are ending up having the same answer.
Given that you have to select an E-mail to delete it, how are users supposed to protect themselves from this one?
What a stange question to be asked on Slashdot. I figure everyone else here but the poster know the answer. One hint. It starts with a moz and ends with a zilla and can be found at www.mozilla.org
Seriously - most of the questions end-users give me regarding their frustration with the internet are answered with that simple website. We do now have a choice of what we can use.... sooner or later we will have to just stop being suprised that anything starting with the word Outlook is a dangerous way to receive email, and abandon it for something safe.
Wishing someone a nice day is simply that: noboody wants to have a day thats not nice. On the other hand, performing the ritual of a "blessing" is a different story. I know a lot of christians would have trouble with someone praying over them "May satan ovverpower and guide you. Zorbit" or whatever it is that satanists may say, so why should this be any different? On the other hand, 'I hope you have a good day" is something completely different.
I see a clear difference there, maybe I'm the only one.
What a strange choice - i could either mod you down, sending a message with no meaning behind it. I'mstead I will tell you why D'd mod you down. Here it is:
You see, you get quite high and mighty about being open minded - and then in the next sentence, you force a blessing on to the poster. I mean, as a non christian, i find it quite offensive and disturbing that you'd add that blessing/prayer to the end. Don't force prayers and blessing on people that don't want them, and people will probably be less likely to "lump all Christian together"
I know a lot of great christians that would never be so crude as to force their conceptions upon those who have decided differently. They don't stand out, so no complaints are generated... but we have to appreciate them for being truely respectful and open minded.
"That money will burn a hole in your pocket" But the part that was left out is "if you stand near that microwave tower".
Does anyone know if the money is still legal tender if its been fried like that? And if blowing up the photo of presidents face like the photo illustrates could get you landed in jail for 'terrorism'. Heh.
This is gettig absolutely ridiculous. SCO have become complete clowns. I mean what should we expect next?
"SCO threatens to kill cute little fuzzy kittens tomorrow"
or
SCO promises to push your grandmother down stairs tomorrow"
They are just looking more and more like weird bullies with no PR team, no common sense, and no chance of ever looking like a legitimate company again. Hopefully pretty soon the whole world will begin to see them as the joke they are making themselves.
I mean really... why would anyone, except those making a profit off of selling music, adopt this? I guess I can see someone shifting to a new format - lets say a lossless format came out with the same filesize of mp3, but with DRM, maybe people would tolerate it. But this.... this makes no sense? Its just plain old mp3 all over again! Its like saying Hey buy this new TV - its the exact same in every other way from your old TV except it punches you in the face every time you change channels to avoid commercials"
Am i missing something here, or am I just stupid?
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Does anyone remember way back in the BBS days of the early 90s (when the net was new or undiscovered for so many) when HVAC meant "hacking, virii, anarchy, cracking"?
I think the adoption of BTX is going to come very slowly. For the 90% of computer users out there, a 3Ghz P4 is already a huge overkill to browse the net and check email.
Thats what they were saying at 200 MHZ - Did it slow anyone down?
It doesn't seem it did.
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I used metacrawler - it used to be university run, ad free, kept on track of all the search engines, and was incredibly fast and configurable - It was searching google before i knew what google was - Its still pretty good - but a shadow of what it used to be.
From the NAPSTER network??? This is worse than i thought - it appears the RIAA has built a Time Machine! Next they will be going further back than napster andprosecuting free-thinking pilgrims who would share their newspapers.
I agree as well - i know all the tricks to searching in firebird - and to me nothing beats the mozilla method - and i've been tempted to go back to mozilla jsut for this reason SEVERAL times.
I'm not really worried about the high tech weeds - if someone could find somehting to take care of run of the mill "garden variety" weeds, i'd be happy - I'll concern myself with high tech weeds after that.
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until this point in the thread i was thinking humour doesn't belong in a place where we know hundreds or more and being bombed... Then i read this - i coudn't help laughing.. and so true... I think you've added a valuable segment to the thread - and any of the idiotic insults/threats you may receive from others in here should be dismissed. Very well done.
Argh no it is not"the old" nature vs nurture thing. Nature vs nurture is often used by genetic scientists when talking about the amount of care put in to a child after birth. Humans dedicare nearly 20 years to one child - thats a lot of nurthure to a little bit of nature. On the other hand, creatures like spiders will have thousands of young and not tend to them at all. Thats a lot of nature and not much nurture.
Thought the theory you present is right, the term you coined it as is incorrect.
I work in a cybercafe as one of my jobs. The heating bill is nonexistant. Its a basement until for one, with over 30 computers (p4's) running geforce 2's and 3's... in fact, its the middle of a canadian winter right now, and we have the air conditioning on. Now, i have NO idea what the electricity bill runs - but its interesting to knoe that there is No money spent on heat.
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I live in Toronto, Canada. The largest city in Canada, and it was completely peaceful. In fact, people with generators threw parties down town, there were a few djs spinning outside of a record shop, hooked up to a generator... Japanese food and wood oven cooked stuff was everywhere, and there was a real sense of community. Neighborhoods came alive with communal barbeques, and you could see the milky way so clearly at night. There was a real sense of beauty to everything. I brought water to the elderly women on the floor of the highrise i was in, and when the power came back, they brought me endless dishes of delicious indian food. Its one of my fondest memories of this city. So much that I've heard more than a few people wish we could have a "blackout night" once a month in the nicer summer months.. to erase our technology and embrace human culture, and nature, if only for a little while. I didn't even really think about my computer while the power was out, and I usually live on it. I know there was a lot of damage and harm from all of it, but a lot of us experienced something beautiful.
I am incredibly pro-Linux, but you're clouding the issue, and words like yours can do more harm than good.
1. Installing a program isn't any harder. Windows install.. insert CD, click OK and Next a bunch of times and it's done. Linux install.. do an emerge, apt-get, swaret, etc, sit back and wait.
Ok, first of all... Give somebody a choice where they can either put in a cd and choose between "go back" or "next" - i think everyone will choose next. That is a pretty simple logic gate. On the other hand, there is no way that my mother will guess to "emerge, apt-get, swaret, etc". I mean shit - I can't even guess what the etc is... make, make install? Is this a troll? Do you really except any neophyte to be able to guess these cryptic commands, and find it easier than clicking on a "next" button?
search on linuxquestions.org or your distro's forums
Yeah - same goes for windows - search the net. Most users won't take that initiative, and will still have to call their geeky friend - but now they will have to call their extra-geeky friend who knows linux
Recompiling a kernel? It's really not that hard. There are a ton of walkthroughs
Brain surgery. Its really not that hard. There are a ton of schools.
How many times have you tried to install a piece of hardware where Windows didn't correctly recognize it
A lot less times than on linux, and i use linux a lot more than windows. At least try to understand linux's strong points to argue.
are there 78,919 projects hosted on sourceforge.net? That's an awful lot of software for such an unusable OS
Are all of those projects for the desktop? I could have sworn at least a few of them were for the server. And Nobody is calling linux unusable. The argument being presented is that Linux isn't ready for the average modern computer user. This may or may not be true. I am a desktop user of Linux myself.. and in my personal opinion, there are a lot of people not ready for a linux desktop yet. But its getting there. Try to keep the exaggerations and FUD to a minimum. If you can tell people Honestly the state of linux as it is, people won't feel ripped off when its not what they expected, and will be more likely to try it again later.
I have no doubt in my mind that soon enough, Linux will be ready for the desktop, for Everyone, but I don't think it is yet.
I'd love to see the look on the face of the IRS clerk when s/he looks at that line.
By my guess is that it will be competely bank. From my dealings with tax people, I've decided they aren't human... or at least humans capable of emotion.
It seems more and more questions are ending up having the same answer. Given that you have to select an E-mail to delete it, how are users supposed to protect themselves from this one?
What a stange question to be asked on Slashdot. I figure everyone else here but the poster know the answer. One hint. It starts with a moz and ends with a zilla and can be found at www.mozilla.org
Seriously - most of the questions end-users give me regarding their frustration with the internet are answered with that simple website. We do now have a choice of what we can use.... sooner or later we will have to just stop being suprised that anything starting with the word Outlook is a dangerous way to receive email, and abandon it for something safe.
I don't think what you say is true at all.
Wishing someone a nice day is simply that: noboody wants to have a day thats not nice. On the other hand, performing the ritual of a "blessing" is a different story. I know a lot of christians would have trouble with someone praying over them "May satan ovverpower and guide you. Zorbit" or whatever it is that satanists may say, so why should this be any different? On the other hand, 'I hope you have a good day" is something completely different.
I see a clear difference there, maybe I'm the only one.
What a strange choice - i could either mod you down, sending a message with no meaning behind it. I'mstead I will tell you why D'd mod you down. Here it is:
You see, you get quite high and mighty about being open minded - and then in the next sentence, you force a blessing on to the poster. I mean, as a non christian, i find it quite offensive and disturbing that you'd add that blessing/prayer to the end. Don't force prayers and blessing on people that don't want them, and people will probably be less likely to "lump all Christian together"
I know a lot of great christians that would never be so crude as to force their conceptions upon those who have decided differently. They don't stand out, so no complaints are generated... but we have to appreciate them for being truely respectful and open minded.
"That money will burn a hole in your pocket"
But the part that was left out is "if you stand near that microwave tower".
Does anyone know if the money is still legal tender if its been fried like that? And if blowing up the photo of presidents face like the photo illustrates could get you landed in jail for 'terrorism'. Heh.
This is gettig absolutely ridiculous. SCO have become complete clowns. I mean what should we expect next?
"SCO threatens to kill cute little fuzzy kittens tomorrow"
or
SCO promises to push your grandmother down stairs tomorrow"
They are just looking more and more like weird bullies with no PR team, no common sense, and no chance of ever looking like a legitimate company again. Hopefully pretty soon the whole world will begin to see them as the joke they are making themselves.
I mean really... why would anyone, except those making a profit off of selling music, adopt this? I guess I can see someone shifting to a new format - lets say a lossless format came out with the same filesize of mp3, but with DRM, maybe people would tolerate it. But this.... this makes no sense? Its just plain old mp3 all over again! Its like saying Hey buy this new TV - its the exact same in every other way from your old TV except it punches you in the face every time you change channels to avoid commercials"
Am i missing something here, or am I just stupid?
Does anyone remember way back in the BBS days of the early 90s (when the net was new or undiscovered for so many) when HVAC meant "hacking, virii, anarchy, cracking"?
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I must add my 2 cents here.
Why not add an "advanced options" chevron for the things you think only 2% of users use?
In the location bar type about:config
voila - every option that you could ever want - all the ones from Mozilla, etc.
Providing a list of mirrors would haev been nice / intelligent.... Seeing as the mirror list is on mozilla.org, and is now slashdotted.
indeed - i'd blame it on it being my first day on a non-natural keyboard, but still - how embarassing.
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"Hello, Mr Kettle? I have Mr. Pot on line one. He has a message for you."
I think the adoption of BTX is going to come very slowly. For the 90% of computer users out there, a 3Ghz P4 is already a huge overkill to browse the net and check email.
Thats what they were saying at 200 MHZ - Did it slow anyone down?
It doesn't seem it did.
I used metacrawler - it used to be university run, ad free, kept on track of all the search engines, and was incredibly fast and configurable - It was searching google before i knew what google was - Its still pretty good - but a shadow of what it used to be.
From the NAPSTER network??? This is worse than i thought - it appears the RIAA has built a Time Machine! Next they will be going further back than napster andprosecuting free-thinking pilgrims who would share their newspapers.
Yikes.
I agree as well - i know all the tricks to searching in firebird - and to me nothing beats the mozilla method - and i've been tempted to go back to mozilla jsut for this reason SEVERAL times.
"the reason why America is targeted by terrorists is that "certain elements" are simply jealous of our outstanding quality of life."
Wow you followed that propoganda tidbit hook line and sinker, didn't you? Good job.
Its not your "liberty" they hate but your forign policy. Explaining why here would be redundant - i advise you to start reading.
Jeolosy is selfishness - spawned out of a want of more for yourself - A person will not die for jealousy - it defeats the purpose of the emotion.
I'm not really worried about the high tech weeds - if someone could find somehting to take care of run of the mill "garden variety" weeds, i'd be happy - I'll concern myself with high tech weeds after that.
ha.
until this point in the thread i was thinking humour doesn't belong in a place where we know hundreds or more and being bombed... Then i read this - i coudn't help laughing.. and so true... I think you've added a valuable segment to the thread - and any of the idiotic insults/threats you may receive from others in here should be dismissed. Very well done.
Argh no it is not"the old" nature vs nurture thing. Nature vs nurture is often used by genetic scientists when talking about the amount of care put in to a child after birth. Humans dedicare nearly 20 years to one child - thats a lot of nurthure to a little bit of nature. On the other hand, creatures like spiders will have thousands of young and not tend to them at all. Thats a lot of nature and not much nurture.
Thought the theory you present is right, the term you coined it as is incorrect.
I work in a cybercafe as one of my jobs. The heating bill is nonexistant. Its a basement until for one, with over 30 computers (p4's) running geforce 2's and 3's... in fact, its the middle of a canadian winter right now, and we have the air conditioning on. Now, i have NO idea what the electricity bill runs - but its interesting to knoe that there is No money spent on heat.