it should be noted the Toy story 2 was originaly intended to be a direct to video release.. but it was too good, and got released to cinemas as a result.
I agree with the sentiment that TS3 is most likely to be a POS and will be released STV.
but I wouldn't mind that too much.
now if te screw up with the hitchhiker movie, now THEN I'll be pissed.
I'm not sure I compleetly understand your idea, since what it looks to me you are proposing is basicly a matrix of microswitches, which is nice, but I'm not sure this will be a big improvment over the Lemur, for example (lets assume that you find a technical solution that wil make the LCD still visable, maybe very small LED's on each switch). the two dimentional array of switches you get as a result is still an array, though you do get some sort of feed back, I'm not sure that is a big enough change from the current solution.
I'm thinking about a few solutions, one of them is a lot like the audiopad, only that the pucks are, somehow connected to the surface, another one is close to your idea, since it is an array of "switches" of somesort, but those "switches" also change thier physical properties somhow (go up and down, or L/R), in a manner not totaly dissimilar to pin-cushions - those that you do an imprint of your hand from the bottom. The nice thing about this idea is that if it's done well enough, I won't need an LCD at all. though it is scary from a technical/micromechanic POV, and would be extreemly labur intensive to do..
I should state here that this, tactile HCI technological issue, is not a primery goal of this project, since the aspects that is most important (given the fact that I study design, and not, say, engineering) are the esthetic properties of the object, rather then the technological innovation that said object might have.
I have alwredy started to document this project, on a Wiki, BTW, exactly for these sort of conversations. but the wiki is still in it's infancy, and is yet unorganised. I'll have it orgenized and I'll open it to the public sometime next week. I'll keep the progress of this project on my livejournal blog too.
The Audiopad is similar to this Lemur thingy in the same way a two ton truck is similar to a ferrari. they are extreemly differant in what they do and the methods they accomplish, but the fact that they use visual reprisentation of manipulation on the actual surface is what makes them seem similar.
not that I don't understand where you are comming from, actually..
I'm an Industrial design student, just starting my last year, and my final graduation project will most likely be in this field, IE music composition + computer + control UI.
The big differance between the lemur thing and tha audiopad is, IMHO, tactility. the lemur has no taktile feedback. while the audiopad has some sort of physical interaction with those pucks/sensors.
One of the main things I'm trying to solve is how to do something like that lemur thing but get some sort of physical feedback into this system.
the original plan was to call the device "HP music player" or something along thouse lines. they planed to have a differant color scheem (blue) and they pland to etch the HP logo instead of the apple.
they changed the plan. becoase, aparantly, they arn't goofballs afterall.
exuse me?! what?! are you saying what I think you are saying?!?!
are you saying that apple has a better channel then HP?
cause if you are saying this, you, my friend, live in a different world to the one that I'm living in...
assuming that you are right with regard to the local US market (which I seriously doubt)..
apple's visibility where I live (israel) is close to nonexistant. this is changing becoase of the ipod a bit, I agree, but comeon... HP and compaq are EVERYWHERE.
yup, and the Cnet article doesn't do it justice calling it the "fairlight music synthesizer"
it was the first digital sampler. and CMI ment computer music instrument. in 1979 - mind you..
and the reprecutions of this invention can be heard to day on almost every music production today. the idea of using a digital representation of sound and playing it back in varing speeds relative to seminotes was totaly revelutionary and had much more of a cultural effect then that video box will ever have..
it's nice to see the guy still comming up with new stuff..;-)
the article is basicly superfluios verbage that is well written but says almost nothing of any substance.
One of the points that had me laughing out loud was this:
"A review of the company's quarterly 10-Q filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission reveals an increasing concern over SCO's legal actions, the risks they pose, and Red Hat's options and the potential consequences should the outcome favor SCO."
anyone who has a remote understing of what the risk portions of the 10-Q and other SEC documents means knows this is is total and absolute bullshit. publicly traided companies HAVE to account for any possible - percivable - source of threat to the future well being of the company, useally overstating those posible threats to the point of absurdity. I have yet to see a "alien abduction of key executive officers might harm our future revenus" clause in a 10-Q but I would'nt be surprised in te least to see it..
not all israeli's are jews (most are) Not all jews are religious (most are not) Not all religious jews are orthodox religious jews (most are not) Not all orthodox religious jews are ultra orthodox ashkenazi jews (most are not)
Only the ultra orthodox ashkenazi jews (afaik) concider the hebrew language as a holy language that's only to be used for prayer.
their Romplers - the JV series are extreely popular in the pro audio world and are highly regarded by many producers - I hate them, though. they sound bland, imho. But that's just me.
However, they did make some noteworthy stuff. perticularly their VA synths 8000 and 8080 and the SP808 zip based recording device were pretty cool for their time, And the new V-synth looks and sounds very interesting.
but it doesn't matter much. these days the realy interesting stuff is done in software anyway (NI PRopellerheads and Ablton are my favorites..)
but the reason they have been getting closer is a direct responce to cross influences over the past 30 years. if you look at the period when the Monty Python gang were active the differance between american humor was huge - I can't even think of any good examples then of american humor of that time..
then influence startd to trikle - with skit shows like saturday night live, and guys like robin williams (who was influenced by the goon show) and so the british understated intelligent humor started to infiltrate the US culture. this trends continued, and still is continueing, the simpson is a great example of the type of humor that, while being american, is extreemly inteligent with cross referances to various cultural elements, pop, clasical, art, and so on.
"You forget that in those days PC users looked down their noses at GUIs"
Dvorak != PC users. a good point is the fact that mastering a the GUI did present a learning curve for people who were acostemed to the dos-cl world, but that would have been negelable if the price would have been competative, which it was not.
the lotus 1-2-3 and wordperfect points are true, but there were word processors (including word) and spreadsheets for the mac, and with DTP and graphics years ahead of the PC - these were anough to offset the little advantage that the PC world had over the mac in these areas.
an israeli company, who had some interesting web stuff going on in the early 90s. he turned it into gizmoz.com - a charecter animation "web-charecters" company.
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a bionic implant of said chip onto a sharks forhead.
that would be ocean's 13.
it should be noted the Toy story 2 was originaly intended to be a direct to video release.. but it was too good, and got released to cinemas as a result.
I agree with the sentiment that TS3 is most likely to be a POS and will be released STV.
but I wouldn't mind that too much.
now if te screw up with the hitchhiker movie, now THEN I'll be pissed.
a dupe posted by CmdrTaco to a story posted by Hemos.. It feels like 1998 again :-)
I'm not sure I compleetly understand your idea, since what it looks to me you are proposing is basicly a matrix of microswitches, which is nice, but I'm not sure this will be a big improvment over the Lemur, for example (lets assume that you find a technical solution that wil make the LCD still visable, maybe very small LED's on each switch). the two dimentional array of switches you get as a result is still an array, though you do get some sort of feed back, I'm not sure that is a big enough change from the current solution.
I'm thinking about a few solutions, one of them is a lot like the audiopad, only that the pucks are, somehow connected to the surface, another one is close to your idea, since it is an array of "switches" of somesort, but those "switches" also change thier physical properties somhow (go up and down, or L/R), in a manner not totaly dissimilar to pin-cushions - those that you do an imprint of your hand from the bottom. The nice thing about this idea is that if it's done well enough, I won't need an LCD at all. though it is scary from a technical/micromechanic POV, and would be extreemly labur intensive to do..
I should state here that this, tactile HCI technological issue, is not a primery goal of this project, since the aspects that is most important (given the fact that I study design, and not, say, engineering) are the esthetic properties of the object, rather then the technological innovation that said object might have.
I have alwredy started to document this project, on a Wiki, BTW, exactly for these sort of conversations. but the wiki is still in it's infancy, and is yet unorganised. I'll have it orgenized and I'll open it to the public sometime next week. I'll keep the progress of this project on my livejournal blog too.
The Audiopad is similar to this Lemur thingy in the same way a two ton truck is similar to a ferrari. they are extreemly differant in what they do and the methods they accomplish, but the fact that they use visual reprisentation of manipulation on the actual surface is what makes them seem similar.
not that I don't understand where you are comming from, actually..
I'm an Industrial design student, just starting my last year, and my final graduation project will most likely be in this field, IE music composition + computer + control UI.
The big differance between the lemur thing and tha audiopad is, IMHO, tactility. the lemur has no taktile feedback. while the audiopad has some sort of physical interaction with those pucks/sensors.
One of the main things I'm trying to solve is how to do something like that lemur thing but get some sort of physical feedback into this system.
any comments that may help will be appriciated.
"since the "Hip-E" costs as much as the iMac G5!"
No it doesn't:
1699$
it costs conciderably more then the imac.
story here, and the actual files in ogg and mp3 formats.
they just PROVED THEY UNDERSTAND BRANDING...
the original plan was to call the device "HP music player" or something along thouse lines. they planed to have a differant color scheem (blue) and they pland to etch the HP logo instead of the apple.
they changed the plan. becoase, aparantly, they arn't goofballs afterall.
exuse me?! what?! are you saying what I think you are saying?!?!
are you saying that apple has a better channel then HP?
cause if you are saying this, you, my friend, live in a different world to the one that I'm living in...
assuming that you are right with regard to the local US market (which I seriously doubt)..
apple's visibility where I live (israel) is close to nonexistant. this is changing becoase of the ipod a bit, I agree, but comeon... HP and compaq are EVERYWHERE.
"...prove that black is white and gets himself killed at the next zebra crossing."
gets run over by a bus.
"So, pencils are writing and erasers are erasing..."
your talking about philosophy students, right?
there are no erasers in said academic department.
yup, and the Cnet article doesn't do it justice calling it the "fairlight music synthesizer"
;-)
it was the first digital sampler. and CMI ment computer music instrument. in 1979 - mind you..
and the reprecutions of this invention can be heard to day on almost every music production today. the idea of using a digital representation of sound and playing it back in varing speeds relative to seminotes was totaly revelutionary and had much more of a cultural effect then that video box will ever have..
it's nice to see the guy still comming up with new stuff..
"Is it possible the publishers did a translation for the US market?"
yes. lifts became elevators, as well, IIRC..
it was demoed in a macworld expo running on a mac, about 6 months before MS bought them
for 50$ for sure.
mod perant up.
Gmail's servers also have powerpc logos on them..
(It's probably a april fools joke from macslash, though..)
I agree.
the article is basicly superfluios verbage that is well written but says almost nothing of any substance.
One of the points that had me laughing out loud was this:
"A review of the company's quarterly 10-Q filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission reveals an increasing concern over SCO's legal actions, the risks they pose, and Red Hat's options and the potential consequences should the outcome favor SCO."
anyone who has a remote understing of what the risk portions of the 10-Q and other SEC documents means knows this is is total and absolute bullshit. publicly traided companies HAVE to account for any possible - percivable - source of threat to the future well being of the company, useally overstating those posible threats to the point of absurdity. I have yet to see a "alien abduction of key executive officers might harm our future revenus" clause in a 10-Q but I would'nt be surprised in te least to see it..
woot!!
> Don't you mean a giant heatsink?
I think he means this.
I appriciate your points, but they extreemly nitpicky.
remembering the question I was unswering (regarding the hebrew language as a secular language) - your points are, at best, irrelevant.
a few points:
not all israeli's are jews (most are)
Not all jews are religious (most are not)
Not all religious jews are orthodox religious jews (most are not)
Not all orthodox religious jews are ultra orthodox ashkenazi jews (most are not)
Only the ultra orthodox ashkenazi jews (afaik) concider the hebrew language as a holy language that's only to be used for prayer.
their Romplers - the JV series are extreely popular in the pro audio world and are highly regarded by many producers - I hate them, though. they sound bland, imho. But that's just me.
However, they did make some noteworthy stuff. perticularly their VA synths 8000 and 8080 and the SP808 zip based recording device were pretty cool for their time, And the new V-synth looks and sounds very interesting.
but it doesn't matter much. these days the realy interesting stuff is done in software anyway (NI PRopellerheads and Ablton are my favorites..)
but the reason they have been getting closer is a direct responce to cross influences over the past 30 years. if you look at the period when the Monty Python gang were active the differance between american humor was huge - I can't even think of any good examples then of american humor of that time..
then influence startd to trikle - with skit shows like saturday night live, and guys like robin williams (who was influenced by the goon show) and so the british understated intelligent humor started to infiltrate the US culture. this trends continued, and still is continueing, the simpson is a great example of the type of humor that, while being american, is extreemly inteligent with cross referances to various cultural elements, pop, clasical, art, and so on.
"You forget that in those days PC users looked down their noses at GUIs"
Dvorak != PC users. a good point is the fact that mastering a the GUI did present a learning curve for people who were acostemed to the dos-cl world, but that would have been negelable if the price would have been competative, which it was not.
the lotus 1-2-3 and wordperfect points are true, but there were word processors (including word) and spreadsheets for the mac, and with DTP and graphics years ahead of the PC - these were anough to offset the little advantage that the PC world had over the mac in these areas.
an israeli company, who had some interesting web stuff going on in the early 90s. he turned it into gizmoz.com - a charecter animation "web-charecters" company.
It died. big surprise.