People like you have been telling damn lies like that for the past month. "Let's try our method, it only has a 20% chance of making the spill a hundred times worse..." You apply the same logic that caused the blowout in the first place, that you'll _always_ be lucky, and say that anyone who disagrees with you is just selfish.
No, but it has been decaptialized a lot over the past twenty five years; it's gone from producing 60% of US needs to producing 35%, all the while everyone saying we don't need to drill here. The majors have changed from companies that produce oil to companies that resell oil produced elsewhere by the state-owned companies of the Middle East, and produce in the United States only as a sideline.
Meanwhile... they're getting their outside experts from the field that has failed to produce and implement a plan for safely storing nuclear waste; we just keep the fuel rods in "temporary" storage tanks mostly co-located with the nuclear plants, and now that we've shut down Yucca Mountain, that's the way it's going to be for the next couple decades as well. They can bring that expertise to cleaning up the oil spill.
Of course China would outcompete us when it comes to "green" technology. They drill for oil and mine for coal with great enthusiasm, which directly correlates to lower costs for plastic and aluminum and steel with which to build renewable power sources from. Given their relative lack of environmental regulation, labor regulations, etc., it's a lot cheaper for them to build a windmill out of plastics and aluminum than for a US-based manufacturer to make the same thing.
China already produces more Tungsten than the rest of the world put together.
If anything, this could help create one of those situations where China still has access but noone else can use the stuff to make finished goods, the way China has threateneed to do re: cornering the rare earth market after they've driven everyone else out of business.
Not only that; there are a lot of unexploited Tungsten sources in the United States; one supposes they could stop nickel-and-diming to death extraction industries here and we could probably produce them a lot more cheaply than the Congo; doing business in a war zone is expensive.
I also just checked Wikipedia, and I think this subject is sufficiently non-controversial/political that they will give accurate information; it looks like China produces several times the amount of Tungsten as the rest of the world _combined_.
China would appear to me to meet the definition of a fascist state more than it does a communist state. The Chinese government is single-party, authoritarian, nationalistic, and while it plays lip service to old communist tropes like class struggle, in point of fact it has increased the stratification of its society into classes radically over the last two decades. It plays host to a large contingent of corporations that are hybrids of state and private control, and it manipulates its society through direct and active control of religious institutions and public discourse.
That's the classic communist definition of 'fascism,' but it's also what most communist states invariably end up looking like. There's always a 'new class,' there's always lip service to communist tropes while the new class stratification is implemented, there's always corporations or corporation-equivalents, sometimes foreign based or sometimes 'design bureaus,' whose presense benefits the New Class more than the old one, and there's always control over public discourse and religious institutions. It happened in Russia, it happened in Cuba, in Eastern Europe, in SE Asia after the communists finally won there... you'd think by now people would be asking why communist-definition fascism seems to be the end state of communist governments, but it never seems to happen.
Do you realize that not only do the Brazilians also drill for oil for use in energy, but that they currently have in use some 3/4 of the world's deepwater drilling capacity off their coasts?
Well, it seems that the american bourgeois are just as stupid, by buying stuff from communist, the very political class that's dedicaced to eradicate them...
The Chinese stopped being communists in everything but name twenty years ago. Heck, they don't even have a social saftey net worth talking about. That is why everyone in china puts so much pressure on their kids to succeed. In China, your kid's job is your pension. America is more "communist" than China. Well, except for the part where most businesses are either owned by the government, the party, or by relatives of the top party officials.
Just because it's not being done for the _good_ of the workers doesn't mean it can't be socialist/communist.
I don't know why it doesn't bug any of y'all that anytime someone starts a communist country it invariably degenerates into something all the leftists say looks like fascism. Maybe it's the logical end-state of communism?
It occurs to me that in a country like Afghanistan, which like most developing countries these days has better cell infrastructure than landline infrastructure, cellphones may be the _only_ way of calling the local police to say the Taliban are attacking you.
There is a difference between the power distribution system , and networking the generator control systems , the first is required to accomplish what you refer to here, the second is not.
Not really. If you're going to have multiple generators connecting to the same power distribution system, <em>generally</em> you're going to want to keep them synchronized to the same frequency as the power distribution system itself runs at.
Heck, they all have to be in phase as well.
Now there are some generator types that can automatically produce power of the correct phase when connected to a power grid, but not all power plant generators are of this type. I think there are scaling problems involved.
Now you could give the power generators a private network of their own, but if you don't secure the individual machines connected to it as well then all you've done is made a single point of failure for all the machines on the network.
If the public power system weren't heavily networked, it would not be possible to hook the California power system's consumers (and their electric cars) to hydroelectric plants in Washington State, or Quebec.
And even if it weren't connected to the public internet, it would still be connected to _an_ internet that could be hacked...
It's too late for us to just Stop Using The Networks Because They Aren't Secure Enough, without massive expense. We're going to have to make them more secure the hard way.
The triple-core Phenom is an actual Phenom architecture, it's not 4-core rejects. Jesus Christ, NEVER accept submissions from hothardware.com anymore!
It's too late, the crowd here is already heading to a couple hundred snarky comments to "facts" that weren't facts to begin with.
I'm assuming this chip would use the same style layout as the chip on the Xbox 360, but you probably won't find that sort of thing out here.
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Of course, I'd love to be proven wrong on this. If anyone can dig up a pre-war speech that accused Hussein of plotting 9/11, I'd love to be corrected.
Give up. Slashdot isn't for that sort of thing. Slashdot is a forum for dishonest "progressives" to repost their strawmen, day after day, and display that they don't even have the self-honesty to put it in the "politics" forum but to pretend they're doing SCIENCE! instead.
Why they think they can compete with the Democratic Underground or Daily Kos for this sort of propaganda I have no idea.
Zarqawi was al Qaeda, for example, and fled to Iraq after the fall of Afghanistan.
Another thing bugs me... Pakistan _did_ have a lot more to do with the 9/11 attack than (for instance) Afghanistan, but I never see calls for invading Pakistan on slashdot. Why?
You're forgetting they haven't got oil in their soil
I don't know about Tibet in particular, but most of the oil in China is in the western provinces and Xinjiang. (In fact, a quick google search reveals news of oil and gas finds in Tibet.)
Did anyone ever tell you that to someone who isn't a rabid fundamentalist liberal, the rabid fundamentalist liberal non sequitor talking points sound retarded?
Yah, I noticed that all sorts of stuff is coming out about Mr. Vitter the week after he led the fight against the immigration bill, which among other things would have vastly increaced the H1B Visa quota.
If slashdot is jumping on that bandwagon, does that mean they're now happy about H1B Visa quota expansion?
Slashdot won't be rid of its ghosts until the programmer's union racists are flushed from the experience, y'know, and learn to accept Mr. Bill's employment requirements.
Funny you should mention that, the last time I checked Brazil didn't solve its problems with ethanol alone, they also expanded onshore and offshore oil drilling a great deal. Of course, that doesn't fit the "story" everyone wants to tell.
Or it may be possible that someone in one of the western intelligence agencies, or elsewhere, knows the location of the ship and wants to leak its location without disclosing technical means. so they find some retired archaeologist to say "OOH, I found this using x-ray analysis of visible-light satellite photographs..."
I mean, X-rays?
If he has really found it, I doubt it's by the method he's outlined above.
You realize that "dragonskin" armor is just one of a lot of vests out there that use dyneema and/or spectra in its construction?
There are multiple _fabric_ materials out there, including both dynema/dyneema and spectra, that are basically made out of polyethylene or variations thereof.
Dragonskin uses them in both the vest itself and the backing for their little ceramic discs. The standard Army body armor uses Spectra as fiber reinforcement for its ceramic panels as well.
"Dragonskin" isn't a material; it's a system made out of three or four other materials.
Actually, I thought the founders of Google had much more control over the company than a lot of more conventionally structured companies, and that most publically traded stock in the company was non-voting, or almost equivalent to bonds?
(I also think a good punch line would be, if these are the good guys, where do I sign up with evil?)
The electric universe people use that tactic a lot; quote some real scientists' new discovery of some physics behind space plasmas and say it proves their pet theory about how fusion doesn't really happen... of course, they never seem to say where the energy really does come from if "it's all electric." Maybe the windmill down the road?
The US government should offer the advice that this move is not a good idea. If they leave any and all remaining assets (and any profits) will be taxed 500% for 10 years and ALL contracts will be canceled as they will become a foreign corporation and cannot have contracts that may/do have implications for national security.
IN SHORT, you want to punish them further for the fact that _you've_ killed most of their domestic customers and forced them to go overseas to begin with.
And it should be swiftly followed by a cancellation of major US contracts. I consider supporting US jobs as a major condition for gaining lucrative US contracts. The CEO having a shorter plane ride is of no concern to me, but the loss of tens of millions of dollars to a city economy is, and I don't even live in Texas.
When I started in the oilfield, twenty years ago, the US imported some 30% of its oil. Now it's 60%. The electorate has spent those twenty years nickel-and-diming to death local oil exploration/production ventures in favor of those located overseas instead. Perhaps the time to be concerned was then rather than now?
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People like you have been telling damn lies like that for the past month. "Let's try our method, it only has a 20% chance of making the spill a hundred times worse..." You apply the same logic that caused the blowout in the first place, that you'll _always_ be lucky, and say that anyone who disagrees with you is just selfish.
No, but it has been decaptialized a lot over the past twenty five years; it's gone from producing 60% of US needs to producing 35%, all the while everyone saying we don't need to drill here. The majors have changed from companies that produce oil to companies that resell oil produced elsewhere by the state-owned companies of the Middle East, and produce in the United States only as a sideline.
Meanwhile... they're getting their outside experts from the field that has failed to produce and implement a plan for safely storing nuclear waste; we just keep the fuel rods in "temporary" storage tanks mostly co-located with the nuclear plants, and now that we've shut down Yucca Mountain, that's the way it's going to be for the next couple decades as well. They can bring that expertise to cleaning up the oil spill.
Of course China would outcompete us when it comes to "green" technology. They drill for oil and mine for coal with great enthusiasm, which directly correlates to lower costs for plastic and aluminum and steel with which to build renewable power sources from. Given their relative lack of environmental regulation, labor regulations, etc., it's a lot cheaper for them to build a windmill out of plastics and aluminum than for a US-based manufacturer to make the same thing.
China already produces more Tungsten than the rest of the world put together.
If anything, this could help create one of those situations where China still has access but noone else can use the stuff to make finished goods, the way China has threateneed to do re: cornering the rare earth market after they've driven everyone else out of business.
(Or did Slashdot cover that?)
Not only that; there are a lot of unexploited Tungsten sources in the United States; one supposes they could stop nickel-and-diming to death extraction industries here and we could probably produce them a lot more cheaply than the Congo; doing business in a war zone is expensive.
I also just checked Wikipedia, and I think this subject is sufficiently non-controversial/political that they will give accurate information; it looks like China produces several times the amount of Tungsten as the rest of the world _combined_.
China would appear to me to meet the definition of a fascist state more than it does a communist state. The Chinese government is single-party, authoritarian, nationalistic, and while it plays lip service to old communist tropes like class struggle, in point of fact it has increased the stratification of its society into classes radically over the last two decades. It plays host to a large contingent of corporations that are hybrids of state and private control, and it manipulates its society through direct and active control of religious institutions and public discourse.
That's the classic communist definition of 'fascism,' but it's also what most communist states invariably end up looking like. There's always a 'new class,' there's always lip service to communist tropes while the new class stratification is implemented, there's always corporations or corporation-equivalents, sometimes foreign based or sometimes 'design bureaus,' whose presense benefits the New Class more than the old one, and there's always control over public discourse and religious institutions. It happened in Russia, it happened in Cuba, in Eastern Europe, in SE Asia after the communists finally won there... you'd think by now people would be asking why communist-definition fascism seems to be the end state of communist governments, but it never seems to happen.
Do you realize that not only do the Brazilians also drill for oil for use in energy, but that they currently have in use some 3/4 of the world's deepwater drilling capacity off their coasts?
The Chinese stopped being communists in everything but name twenty years ago. Heck, they don't even have a social saftey net worth talking about. That is why everyone in china puts so much pressure on their kids to succeed. In China, your kid's job is your pension. America is more "communist" than China. Well, except for the part where most businesses are either owned by the government, the party, or by relatives of the top party officials.Well, it seems that the american bourgeois are just as stupid, by buying stuff from communist, the very political class that's dedicaced to eradicate them...
Just because it's not being done for the _good_ of the workers doesn't mean it can't be socialist/communist.
I don't know why it doesn't bug any of y'all that anytime someone starts a communist country it invariably degenerates into something all the leftists say looks like fascism. Maybe it's the logical end-state of communism?
It occurs to me that in a country like Afghanistan, which like most developing countries these days has better cell infrastructure than landline infrastructure, cellphones may be the _only_ way of calling the local police to say the Taliban are attacking you.
And that's just the sort of laws the bureaucrats like, laws everyone's guilty of violating and which they can selectively enforce.
There is a difference between the power distribution system , and networking the generator control systems , the first is required to accomplish what you refer to here, the second is not.
Not really. If you're going to have multiple generators connecting to the same power distribution system, <em>generally</em> you're going to want to keep them synchronized to the same frequency as the power distribution system itself runs at.
Heck, they all have to be in phase as well.
Now there are some generator types that can automatically produce power of the correct phase when connected to a power grid, but not all power plant generators are of this type. I think there are scaling problems involved.
Now you could give the power generators a private network of their own, but if you don't secure the individual machines connected to it as well then all you've done is made a single point of failure for all the machines on the network.
If the public power system weren't heavily networked, it would not be possible to hook the California power system's consumers (and their electric cars) to hydroelectric plants in Washington State, or Quebec.
And even if it weren't connected to the public internet, it would still be connected to _an_ internet that could be hacked...
It's too late for us to just Stop Using The Networks Because They Aren't Secure Enough, without massive expense. We're going to have to make them more secure the hard way.
The triple-core Phenom is an actual Phenom architecture, it's not 4-core rejects. Jesus Christ, NEVER accept submissions from hothardware.com anymore!
It's too late, the crowd here is already heading to a couple hundred snarky comments to "facts" that weren't facts to begin with.
I'm assuming this chip would use the same style layout as the chip on the Xbox 360, but you probably won't find that sort of thing out here.
Of course, I'd love to be proven wrong on this. If anyone can dig up a pre-war speech that accused Hussein of plotting 9/11, I'd love to be corrected.
Give up. Slashdot isn't for that sort of thing. Slashdot is a forum for dishonest "progressives" to repost their strawmen, day after day, and display that they don't even have the self-honesty to put it in the "politics" forum but to pretend they're doing SCIENCE! instead.
Why they think they can compete with the Democratic Underground or Daily Kos for this sort of propaganda I have no idea.
(Would this be the same Kosovo War that resulted in ZERO US COMBAT DEATHS?)
While at the same time thousands of Kosovar civilians were killed by the Serbs?
Are you _sure_ that's something to be proud of?
You're ignoring the myths of your own.
Zarqawi was al Qaeda, for example, and fled to Iraq after the fall
of Afghanistan.
Another thing bugs me... Pakistan _did_ have a lot more to do with the 9/11 attack than (for instance) Afghanistan, but I never see calls for invading Pakistan on slashdot. Why?
You're forgetting they haven't got oil in their soil
I don't know about Tibet in particular, but most of the oil in China is in the western provinces and Xinjiang. (In fact, a quick google search reveals news of oil and gas finds in Tibet.)
Did anyone ever tell you that to someone who isn't a rabid fundamentalist liberal, the rabid fundamentalist liberal non sequitor talking points sound retarded?
Yah, I noticed that all sorts of stuff is coming out about Mr. Vitter the week after he led the fight against the immigration bill, which among other things would have vastly increaced the H1B Visa quota.
If slashdot is jumping on that bandwagon, does that mean they're now happy about H1B Visa quota expansion?
Slashdot won't be rid of its ghosts until the programmer's union racists are flushed from the experience, y'know, and learn to accept Mr. Bill's employment requirements.
Funny you should mention that, the last time I checked Brazil didn't solve its problems with ethanol alone, they also expanded onshore and offshore oil drilling a great deal. Of course, that doesn't fit the "story" everyone wants to tell.
Or it may be possible that someone in one of the western intelligence agencies, or elsewhere, knows the location of the ship and wants to leak its location without disclosing technical means. so they find some retired archaeologist to say "OOH, I found this using x-ray analysis of visible-light satellite photographs..."
I mean, X-rays?
If he has really found it, I doubt it's by the method he's outlined above.
Hilarious.
You realize that "dragonskin" armor is just one of a lot of vests out there that use dyneema and/or spectra in its construction?
There are multiple _fabric_ materials out there, including both dynema/dyneema and spectra, that are basically made out of polyethylene or variations thereof.
Dragonskin uses them in both the vest itself and the backing for their little ceramic discs. The standard Army body armor uses Spectra as fiber reinforcement for its ceramic panels as well.
"Dragonskin" isn't a material; it's a system made out of three or four other materials.
Actually, I thought the founders of Google had much more control over the company than a lot of more conventionally structured companies, and that most publically
traded stock in the company was non-voting, or almost equivalent to bonds?
(I also think a good punch line would be, if these are the good guys, where do I sign up with evil?)
The electric universe people use that tactic a lot; quote some real scientists' new discovery of some physics behind space plasmas and say it proves their pet theory about how fusion doesn't really happen... of course, they never seem to say where the energy really does come from if "it's all electric." Maybe the windmill down the road?
The US government should offer the advice that this move is not a good idea. If they leave any and all remaining assets (and any profits) will be taxed 500% for 10 years and ALL contracts will be canceled as they will become a foreign corporation and cannot have contracts that may/do have implications for national security.
IN SHORT, you want to punish them further for the fact that _you've_ killed most of their domestic customers and forced them to go overseas to begin with.
And it should be swiftly followed by a cancellation of major US contracts. I consider supporting US jobs as a major condition for gaining lucrative US contracts. The CEO having a shorter plane ride is of no concern to me, but the loss of tens of millions of dollars to a city economy is, and I don't even live in Texas.
When I started in the oilfield, twenty years ago, the US imported some 30% of its oil. Now it's 60%. The electorate has spent those twenty years nickel-and-diming to death local oil exploration/production ventures in favor of those located overseas instead. Perhaps the time to be concerned was then rather than now?