Originally broadcast as a four-hour miniseries that updated its original predecessor, "Battlestar Galactica" will be edited to three hours to accommodate NBC's primetime schedule on January 8.
They will likely completely ruin the show by doing that. Too much will be left out and it'll turn off a lot of people that might have otherwise liked it.
I can see why SciFi is doing it.. more mainstream exposure for the new series (and DVD is out in a couple weeks IIRC)... but allowing it to be cut that much will hurt it... a lot, I think.
I made my own DVDs of the show on my mac, and it just barely fit on 2 dvds (1.5 hrs each) after I trimmed out about 5 minutes of film (like the repeated bit at the end of part 1/start of pt2, credits for pt2, etc). For them to trim what's about 3 hrs 5min of actual show down to 3hrs counting commercials... ick.
If they're counting the unemployment in IT now, compared to during the bubble of a few years ago, then the figures are way over-inflated. There are huge masses of people that were hired for IT jobs during the bubble that should've never worked in IT, and wouldn't have if not for the huge need then.
I've gone over tons of resumes and even interviewed plenty of people that worked as admins and such during the bubble that are just laughable. Someone should've told them long ago that they're in the wrong job market and that they need to look at getting training in something else.
We all need to realize that sometimes, every so often, CHANGE CAN BE GOOD.
True, but don't hold your breath on the EC going away anytime soon. It'll take a constitutional amendment to change, and the smaller (population wise) states will never go for it since the EC is there specifically to help give them a voice. With 2/3 of the states ratifying an amendment required, and the populus states being far outnumbered by the others... ain't gonna happen.
Look at it from their point of view... without the EC, the candidates would cater to NYC, Chicago, LA, SF.. and those alone would be enough to win just about. So looking at area, about 1% of the country would decide the president for the other 99%. That's why the EC was created in the first place... to balance out the states vs. individuals, since the US is supposed to be a union of states, not just a mass of individuals. Much like the Senate and house balance out state vs population.
Good point! It can't possibly be true that reasonable people can disagree.
Thank you.. I'm glad the voting is done for this reason above all others. I'm so tired of the attitude that if you don't agree with someone, you're an idiot. Especially the.. "if you're republican, you're brainwashed, but if you're a democrat.. you're an intelligent, progressive thinker." Whatever.
I debate with people I know on issues all the time, and often disgree with their point of view. But I still respect them, and their view. I often see exactly how they came to their conclusion, but still can think they're wrong.
The vindictive attacks (from both sides) the last few months has just been overwhelming.
Oh, and of course, the whole time I read Golias' reply above, all I could think of was the Simpsons: "Oh, a sarcasm detector.. that's a really useful invention!" (sarcasm detector explodes)...:)
someone at the TexANG had a high end typewriter...
Not to mention that the someone in this case, just happens to be dead. So, of course, you can't just ask the someone in question if these are really his documents or not.
Well, I bought my Kyocera 7135 directly from Kyocera almost 2 years ago (I forget.. been awhile). Called up Verizon, said I had a new phone.. they asked for the ESN, entered it, and I was up and running.
No questions about where I got it, or anything like that.
Yeah, but you're talking 32bit chips vs 64bit chips.
The next couple of quarters, comparing shipments of the Intel EM64T chips vs opterons will be very interesting, and very telling.
I finally got my hands on a nacona a couple weeks ago and put SLES9 on it, and compared it to some opterons. At first I thought the nacona just edged out the opterons when running the binaries of openssl (I like to use openssl for some speed tests) but earlier today realized I did the opteron tests on hosts with a 2.4 kernel. So I redid the tests and found that the opterons still beat the nacona.
What's really sad is that the nacona is a 3.4GHz chip, and the 2.2Ghz opteron is able to beat it. If I recompile openssl myself, opterons get another boost.. much larger then the tiny boost the nacona's get (which just shows that AMD working with the gcc maintainers was a good thing).
I can't wait to see comparisons of large memory programs too.. to compare the AMD design on the memory controller on the CPU. Especially when in larger systems with multi-cpus where the Hypertransport will help even more.
They don't want social progress, so they don't have much to demonstrate for.
Sheesh.. stereotype much? That's such a load of crap. Most people that consider themselves conservatives and/or republicans want social progress as much as everyone else. They just have a different definition of what that is. Many people*, like me, think that we are all equal, that we all deserve a fair shot. We don't believe in quota programs to give some people an unfair advantage. We don't believe in gov't mandated redistribution of wealth. We definitely believe that the best chance people have to improve their lives is to get out there, and do it themselves.. not rely on the gov't (which usually means hand-outs).
Accidents happen. Shit happens. Abortion is a way of saving at least the mother.
Agreed... I have no problem with abortion itself. I, personally, have a problem with people that use abortion as their form of birth control. I think that people who want minors to be able to get an abortion without parental consent, or going before a judge, are crazy. I also think that there should be a limit on how far into the pregnancy a person can get an abortion, unless it's shown that the mother's life is in danger. Once they hit the 3rd trimester or so, they should have to give birth, then give the child up for adoption if they really don't want it.. the partial birth abortion stuff is just horrible... I mean, hell.. they've already carried the baby to term.. just give it up for adoption already.
I do agree that those who protest abortions by harassing people at clinics are just being stupid.
*Of those that I know who tend to vote republican, they all feel the same way. Everyone in my family (save a couple) are like this, all my friends, tons of people I work with (you should see some of the discussions on our mailing-lists), etc.
since Airport Express came out, I don't need the dock anymore. When I'm at home, I just stream from my Mac to my stereo using APX instead of having my iPod next to the TV.
Same here. I finally received my APX on Friday and hooked it up this weekend. The audio streaming is great, and I moved my printer out to the living room from my office too, because I only ever print from my mac anyway.
In fact, I had an audiotron in my living room that I used to use, but it started failing on me a couple weeks ago (tons of static and popping noise even over toslink.. and it's not the cable). I was trying to decide if I should get another atron, or just use the APX... after playing with it this weekend, I think I'm sticking with the APX. I always have my powerbook on when I play mp3s at home anyway.
My only gripe so far was that I hadn't noticed it doesn't come without any cables.. I wish it had come with a toslink cable too, but that's not that expensive.
The culture has indeed changed over that decade and I can see the rift between those who believe in working hard for excellence itself and those who are movtivated by the almighty dollar alone.
This is probably why most of us that do have a work ethic, and do want to do the best we can, rather then just enough to get by, have been gainfully employed and weren't really effected by the dot com bubble burst.
As someone that reads resumes and interviews people fairly regularly, I can say that nothing turns me off from a promising person more then signs that they jump at any offer for more money. Why would I want to hire someone that doesn't care about the rest of us, and will leave as soon as someone offers a few bucks more... and likely cares about the money far more then the work they're doing?
Last time I ran OO on MacOSX it crashed constantly (4 months ago) and it really isn't supported yet AFAIK. But ymmv I would love to use OO on Mac, right know I just use OO via an Xterminal..
It must be a lot better now. Just a couple of weeks ago I created an entire presentation for work (had to give a presentation for engineering community on linux in our business unit.. where we are, where we're going, etc). Not only did I spend several hours straight using OO without a single glitch, but I used the pb and OO to do the presentation too. I put the pb to sleep and woke it up a few times while running OO too.
Only gripe: Couldn't find out how to hide the toolbar on the top of the screen during presentation... and didn't know it was going to be there until the last minute so I didn't have time to look. Had to set dock back to auto-hide to get it out of the way too.
Yeah.. after hand cleaning beagle.j off my dad's laptop this weekend, I'm about ready to tell my family "I don't do windows anymore." Would really like to move them all to macs. Since I bought my 17"pb 9 months ago or so, I've just grown to love it....and yes, before anyone says anything, I already have them off of all windows mail readers (they use mozilla and my horde/IMP install to read mail, in fact) but my dad opened an attachment from a friend manually, even though my procmail system had defanged the filename so he had to rename it. What're ya gonna do?
It's hard to picture why there will ever be a need for 128-bit computing.
I'm sure plenty of people said the same thing about 32-bit (and even 8 and 16 bit) at some point in the past.
Aside from just the addressable memory is the ability to do larger math calculations in the larger registers. I've done some side by side comparisons of 32 and 64 bit compiled openssl on opterons and the 64bit version has a huge speed increase, very likely due to the additional size of the registers, and the additional registers that were added for 64bit mode.
Besides.. you can't say that the addressable memory that 64bit gives is more then enough... sure it's huge now, but in another 20 years or so it might not be. I remember getting my first PC 17 years ago... an AT&T PC6300, 8088 CPU (12MHz I think) with 640K RAM and 2x360K floppies. When I finally got a 20Meg (yes, meg) harddrive a year or so later I thought I'd never be able to use all that space. Now anything less then 250 or so gigs is a waste of time. RAM usage grows slower then drive, but it still grows. I don't buy a system with less than 2Gig of RAM anymore, and that's something like 3000x the amount of ram I had in that first pc. Keep extrapolating that out for another 20, 40, or 60 years.
Well I did some benchmarks using openssl's built in speed tests, and running in 64 bit vs 32 bit made a HUGE difference. Of course that was running a 64bit openssl as well. The opterons I have access to even beat the Itanium2s I have access to at work. By a lot in the smaller bit key sizes, but still either tied or beat the ia64 in the larger key sizes.
Here are the charts I made in OpenOffice on the data I collected. Even a 2GHz opteron beat a 3.2Ghz Xeon in 32 bit mode.:)
Of course this was just a benchmark, but it does show that things that use openssl would benefit from running under 64bit on an opteron.
Not of course that that makes much difference to anything, as there are very few applications that require 64bit addressing as yet.
Depends on the type of people you're supporting. I support chip designers, and the needs for 64bit addressing is growing at an almost exponential rate. This is one of the reasons that Suns have been our main platform for a long time (that and until the last year or so the software only existed on Solaris, and sometimes HP-UX). Now we have users going gaga over Itaniums, because they've got the 64bitness and are much faster then SPARC boxes (but the cost is just as bad) and the software has finally come out for IA64/linux.
Me? I'm looking for Opterons to really take off. I know we're already fighting to get the apps ported to linux on opterons, and the opterons are much cheaper. I have a feeling we'll end up with a mix of x86_64 and IA64 in the end though.. some things will likely run faster on one platform while others on the other. One thing I really love about opterons is that we can run them in 32bit mode now, where they tend to beat Xeons (2Ghz opterons tend to kick the 3.2GHz Xeon's butts) and when we're ready, we can just update to 64bit versions of linux and we've increased the usability of the box. Using Xeons now would require buying new itaniums to go 64bit. There's also the nice little boost under 64bit on opteron where 32bit apps can malloc up to about 3.5Gig of RAM without kernel patches.
Music criticism from junkie window-breaking scum. Charming!
Well here's a story to show the avg intelligence of one of those scum....
Had my car (hand me down 1980 Honda Accord hatchback, piece of crap) broken into outside of school one day back in ~92. Broke the passenger's side lock, ripped out my stereo, stole several things I'd left in the car (including a $150+ tennis racket that was under the seat). Boy was I pissed. I sat in the car for a minute feeling something was wrong, but didn't see it until I went to turn on the stereo after starting the car... a multitude of explicatives flew from my mouth then.
I started driving around using a POS bathroom radio to have some music for the next few weeks until I got it fixed. About 3 weeks after the 1st time, I came out in the morning to find that another person had broken into the car again. First of all, they broke the other lock... yes, they broke in on the other side even though the lock on the opposite side was already broken! Duh... Not to mention that there was nothing of value in the car, and the bathroom radio was left inside. The damage from the previous theft (the gaping hole in the dash) was plainly visible from outside, so it's not like this moron would've missed it.
Same cop came to take the report on this theft as the previous one.. even he was astounded at how stupid this thief was.
Never underestimate the stupidity of someone that resorts to theft.
I see you posted Friday.. I was talking about Sunday when the fires were first starting up and really flaring up... then, Fox was the only one of the 3 major cable outlets that covered San Diego. Yes, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc... picked up the news as the damage really grew later on into Monday and tuesday, but at the start, what I said stands.
I've also seen plenty of reports throught the rest of the week on FOX about San Diego..
This is a bad thing since experience working at Fox news does not exactly enhance your resume when applying for a job with the real media.
Oh please, and you people say that anyone who disagrees with a liberal is single minded and stupid.
I live in San Diego, and while 1/2 the county was burning this last week, I was watching all the local channels and the network news channels. Who was first (by a long shot) to report on fires here? Fox. Hell, even CNN and MSNBC kept simply referring to fires in "Southern California" and only showing shots from LA and San Bernardino, and only short glimpses at that... Fox at least acknowledged early on that there are people and cities south of that. Too much of the "real media" seem to think that "Southern California" == "LA" which is really annoying.
Then the local channels... our local Fox station continued to cover the fires and give constant updates long after the CBS, ABC and NBC channels had gone back to their daytime programming of stupid talk shows and soap operas (heaven forbid they anger that demographic). However, I think that our local non-network channel, KUSI had the most (and perhaps best) overall coverage when compared to even our local Fox station.
That means you don't have to get the absolute cheapest products available. You have options and you get to vote with your dollars.
Some of us do. For instance, when I went to upgrade my sound system with a better surround setup, I didn't go to any of the big electronic chains, or huge stereo shops. I went (after a friend recommended them) to a small, family run shop that was actually close to my home and had been around for almost 60 years.
Not only did were they not pushy salespeople, but they actually *gasp* knew a lot about audio, video, and basically anything having to do with home theaters. It's such a breath of fresh air to do business with them compared to your usual stores.. no lackey salsemen that have no real knowledge of the equipment and push you to buy the more expensive items. These people would even recommend other stores if they didn't meet your needs.
Personally, I'm always willing to pay more for better service, and better choices. I refuse to shop at places like WalMart (god I hate that place) where it's just massive, crappy stock at cheap prices and some of the dumbest (and slow) people in the world as employees.
Small sample just to back you up, all apps were about the same, but here's a -benchmark off the latest (well, at the time a couple months ago) distributed net client: 3.06Ghz Xeon P4: OGR: Benchmark for core #0 (GARSP 5.13-A) 0.00:00:16.30 [12,660,751 nodes/sec] Benchmark for core #6 (DG 3-pipe) 0.00:00:16.19 [4,279,800 keys/sec]
Note the opteron is 2/3 the speed, but kicks the Xeon's ass... and the P4 has optimizations in the dnet client, the opterons do not.
Yes yes... it's opteron vs athlon64 but the athlon64 fx mentioned is almost the exact same chip.
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What I don't get is why they didn't just get a sample 2.0GHz Opteron to test with instead of OC'ing the 1.8 one.. they do exist... I should know, I've got a dual proc test box at work: % grep MHz/proc/cpuinfo cpu MHz : 1971.563 cpu MHz : 1971.563
For those that care... this box is still running in 32 bit mode (couldn't build 64 bit openafs client yet and we rely heavily on afs.. 1.2.10 client that came out since I tried appears to have the support now though). I did tests with programs like mp3 rips and the distributed net client benchmark. The dnet client was 28% and 74%(!) faster for the GARSP 5.13-A and DG-3 pipe tests respectively compared to a dual 3GHz Xeon box. And the dnet client has P4 optimized cores, but doesn't have opteron optimizations.
We've tested Itanium2's as well, and while their performance compared to sparc hardware is much faster, their 32bit emulation sucks rocks. And we haven't had comparable programs on opteron to compare with itanium yet (in 64 bit mode).
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They will likely completely ruin the show by doing that. Too much will be left out and it'll turn off a lot of people that might have otherwise liked it.
I can see why SciFi is doing it.. more mainstream exposure for the new series (and DVD is out in a couple weeks IIRC)... but allowing it to be cut that much will hurt it... a lot, I think.
I made my own DVDs of the show on my mac, and it just barely fit on 2 dvds (1.5 hrs each) after I trimmed out about 5 minutes of film (like the repeated bit at the end of part 1/start of pt2, credits for pt2, etc). For them to trim what's about 3 hrs 5min of actual show down to 3hrs counting commercials... ick.
If they're counting the unemployment in IT now, compared to during the bubble of a few years ago, then the figures are way over-inflated. There are huge masses of people that were hired for IT jobs during the bubble that should've never worked in IT, and wouldn't have if not for the huge need then.
I've gone over tons of resumes and even interviewed plenty of people that worked as admins and such during the bubble that are just laughable. Someone should've told them long ago that they're in the wrong job market and that they need to look at getting training in something else.
We all need to realize that sometimes, every so often, CHANGE CAN BE GOOD.
True, but don't hold your breath on the EC going away anytime soon. It'll take a constitutional amendment to change, and the smaller (population wise) states will never go for it since the EC is there specifically to help give them a voice. With 2/3 of the states ratifying an amendment required, and the populus states being far outnumbered by the others... ain't gonna happen.
Look at it from their point of view... without the EC, the candidates would cater to NYC, Chicago, LA, SF.. and those alone would be enough to win just about. So looking at area, about 1% of the country would decide the president for the other 99%. That's why the EC was created in the first place... to balance out the states vs. individuals, since the US is supposed to be a union of states, not just a mass of individuals. Much like the Senate and house balance out state vs population.
Good point! It can't possibly be true that reasonable people can disagree.
:)
Thank you.. I'm glad the voting is done for this reason above all others. I'm so tired of the attitude that if you don't agree with someone, you're an idiot. Especially the.. "if you're republican, you're brainwashed, but if you're a democrat.. you're an intelligent, progressive thinker." Whatever.
I debate with people I know on issues all the time, and often disgree with their point of view. But I still respect them, and their view. I often see exactly how they came to their conclusion, but still can think they're wrong.
The vindictive attacks (from both sides) the last few months has just been overwhelming.
Oh, and of course, the whole time I read Golias' reply above, all I could think of was the Simpsons: "Oh, a sarcasm detector.. that's a really useful invention!" (sarcasm detector explodes)...
1) Roughly what percent of your music collection is unauthorized files from P2P like Kazaa, FTP, etc.?
less then 1%.. only a handful of files, that I almost never listen to too.
2) Roughly what percent of your music collection comes from sources like iTunes Music Store, eMusic, etc?
~10% now... 20 or so albums now I think.
3) Roughly what percent of your music collection comes from shareable sources like Creative Commons-licensed music?
None..
4) Roughly what percent of your music collection comes from rips of your own CDs?
~88%
5) Roughly what percent of your music collection comes from rips of friends' CDs?
less then 1%
I don't steal or download stuff. A handful of files from back when mp3s first started taking off.. I could probably just delete them now.
someone at the TexANG had a high end typewriter ...
Not to mention that the someone in this case, just happens to be dead. So, of course, you can't just ask the someone in question if these are really his documents or not.
What about the costs of cleaning up roadside lead left from pre-1970s gasoline?
Pre-1970s? I was using leaded fuel in a car up until 1992 or so. It was still available for awhile after that too.
Well, I bought my Kyocera 7135 directly from Kyocera almost 2 years ago (I forget.. been awhile). Called up Verizon, said I had a new phone.. they asked for the ESN, entered it, and I was up and running.
No questions about where I got it, or anything like that.
-Mike
Yeah, but you're talking 32bit chips vs 64bit chips.
The next couple of quarters, comparing shipments of the Intel EM64T chips vs opterons will be very interesting, and very telling.
I finally got my hands on a nacona a couple weeks ago and put SLES9 on it, and compared it to some opterons. At first I thought the nacona just edged out the opterons when running the binaries of openssl (I like to use openssl for some speed tests) but earlier today realized I did the opteron tests on hosts with a 2.4 kernel. So I redid the tests and found that the opterons still beat the nacona.
What's really sad is that the nacona is a 3.4GHz chip, and the 2.2Ghz opteron is able to beat it. If I recompile openssl myself, opterons get another boost.. much larger then the tiny boost the nacona's get (which just shows that AMD working with the gcc maintainers was a good thing).
I can't wait to see comparisons of large memory programs too.. to compare the AMD design on the memory controller on the CPU. Especially when in larger systems with multi-cpus where the Hypertransport will help even more.
They don't want social progress, so they don't have much to demonstrate for.
Sheesh.. stereotype much? That's such a load of crap. Most people that consider themselves conservatives and/or republicans want social progress as much as everyone else. They just have a different definition of what that is. Many people*, like me, think that we are all equal, that we all deserve a fair shot. We don't believe in quota programs to give some people an unfair advantage. We don't believe in gov't mandated redistribution of wealth. We definitely believe that the best chance people have to improve their lives is to get out there, and do it themselves.. not rely on the gov't (which usually means hand-outs).
Accidents happen. Shit happens. Abortion is a way of saving at least the mother.
Agreed... I have no problem with abortion itself. I, personally, have a problem with people that use abortion as their form of birth control. I think that people who want minors to be able to get an abortion without parental consent, or going before a judge, are crazy. I also think that there should be a limit on how far into the pregnancy a person can get an abortion, unless it's shown that the mother's life is in danger. Once they hit the 3rd trimester or so, they should have to give birth, then give the child up for adoption if they really don't want it.. the partial birth abortion stuff is just horrible... I mean, hell.. they've already carried the baby to term.. just give it up for adoption already.
I do agree that those who protest abortions by harassing people at clinics are just being stupid.
*Of those that I know who tend to vote republican, they all feel the same way. Everyone in my family (save a couple) are like this, all my friends, tons of people I work with (you should see some of the discussions on our mailing-lists), etc.
since Airport Express came out, I don't need the dock anymore. When I'm at home, I just stream from my Mac to my stereo using APX instead of having my iPod next to the TV.
Same here. I finally received my APX on Friday and hooked it up this weekend. The audio streaming is great, and I moved my printer out to the living room from my office too, because I only ever print from my mac anyway.
In fact, I had an audiotron in my living room that I used to use, but it started failing on me a couple weeks ago (tons of static and popping noise even over toslink.. and it's not the cable). I was trying to decide if I should get another atron, or just use the APX... after playing with it this weekend, I think I'm sticking with the APX. I always have my powerbook on when I play mp3s at home anyway.
My only gripe so far was that I hadn't noticed it doesn't come without any cables.. I wish it had come with a toslink cable too, but that's not that expensive.
The culture has indeed changed over that decade and I can see the rift between those who believe in working hard for excellence itself and those who are movtivated by the almighty dollar alone.
This is probably why most of us that do have a work ethic, and do want to do the best we can, rather then just enough to get by, have been gainfully employed and weren't really effected by the dot com bubble burst.
As someone that reads resumes and interviews people fairly regularly, I can say that nothing turns me off from a promising person more then signs that they jump at any offer for more money. Why would I want to hire someone that doesn't care about the rest of us, and will leave as soon as someone offers a few bucks more... and likely cares about the money far more then the work they're doing?
Last time I ran OO on MacOSX it crashed constantly (4 months ago) and it really isn't supported yet AFAIK. But ymmv I would love to use OO on Mac, right know I just use OO via an Xterminal..
It must be a lot better now. Just a couple of weeks ago I created an entire presentation for work (had to give a presentation for engineering community on linux in our business unit.. where we are, where we're going, etc). Not only did I spend several hours straight using OO without a single glitch, but I used the pb and OO to do the presentation too. I put the pb to sleep and woke it up a few times while running OO too.
Only gripe: Couldn't find out how to hide the toolbar on the top of the screen during presentation... and didn't know it was going to be there until the last minute so I didn't have time to look. Had to set dock back to auto-hide to get it out of the way too.
Yeah.. after hand cleaning beagle.j off my dad's laptop this weekend, I'm about ready to tell my family "I don't do windows anymore." Would really like to move them all to macs. Since I bought my 17"pb 9 months ago or so, I've just grown to love it. ...and yes, before anyone says anything, I already have them off of all windows mail readers (they use mozilla and my horde/IMP install to read mail, in fact) but my dad opened an attachment from a friend manually, even though my procmail system had defanged the filename so he had to rename it. What're ya gonna do?
It's hard to picture why there will ever be a need for 128-bit computing.
I'm sure plenty of people said the same thing about 32-bit (and even 8 and 16 bit) at some point in the past.
Aside from just the addressable memory is the ability to do larger math calculations in the larger registers. I've done some side by side comparisons of 32 and 64 bit compiled openssl on opterons and the 64bit version has a huge speed increase, very likely due to the additional size of the registers, and the additional registers that were added for 64bit mode.
Besides.. you can't say that the addressable memory that 64bit gives is more then enough... sure it's huge now, but in another 20 years or so it might not be. I remember getting my first PC 17 years ago... an AT&T PC6300, 8088 CPU (12MHz I think) with 640K RAM and 2x360K floppies. When I finally got a 20Meg (yes, meg) harddrive a year or so later I thought I'd never be able to use all that space. Now anything less then 250 or so gigs is a waste of time. RAM usage grows slower then drive, but it still grows. I don't buy a system with less than 2Gig of RAM anymore, and that's something like 3000x the amount of ram I had in that first pc. Keep extrapolating that out for another 20, 40, or 60 years.
Well I did some benchmarks using openssl's built in speed tests, and running in 64 bit vs 32 bit made a HUGE difference. Of course that was running a 64bit openssl as well. The opterons I have access to even beat the Itanium2s I have access to at work. By a lot in the smaller bit key sizes, but still either tied or beat the ia64 in the larger key sizes.
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Here are the charts I made in OpenOffice on the data I collected. Even a 2GHz opteron beat a 3.2Ghz Xeon in 32 bit mode.
Of course this was just a benchmark, but it does show that things that use openssl would benefit from running under 64bit on an opteron.
Not of course that that makes much difference to anything, as there are very few applications that require 64bit addressing as yet.
Depends on the type of people you're supporting. I support chip designers, and the needs for 64bit addressing is growing at an almost exponential rate. This is one of the reasons that Suns have been our main platform for a long time (that and until the last year or so the software only existed on Solaris, and sometimes HP-UX). Now we have users going gaga over Itaniums, because they've got the 64bitness and are much faster then SPARC boxes (but the cost is just as bad) and the software has finally come out for IA64/linux.
Me? I'm looking for Opterons to really take off. I know we're already fighting to get the apps ported to linux on opterons, and the opterons are much cheaper. I have a feeling we'll end up with a mix of x86_64 and IA64 in the end though.. some things will likely run faster on one platform while others on the other. One thing I really love about opterons is that we can run them in 32bit mode now, where they tend to beat Xeons (2Ghz opterons tend to kick the 3.2GHz Xeon's butts) and when we're ready, we can just update to 64bit versions of linux and we've increased the usability of the box. Using Xeons now would require buying new itaniums to go 64bit. There's also the nice little boost under 64bit on opteron where 32bit apps can malloc up to about 3.5Gig of RAM without kernel patches.
Music criticism from junkie window-breaking scum. Charming!
Well here's a story to show the avg intelligence of one of those scum....
Had my car (hand me down 1980 Honda Accord hatchback, piece of crap) broken into outside of school one day back in ~92. Broke the passenger's side lock, ripped out my stereo, stole several things I'd left in the car (including a $150+ tennis racket that was under the seat). Boy was I pissed. I sat in the car for a minute feeling something was wrong, but didn't see it until I went to turn on the stereo after starting the car... a multitude of explicatives flew from my mouth then.
I started driving around using a POS bathroom radio to have some music for the next few weeks until I got it fixed. About 3 weeks after the 1st time, I came out in the morning to find that another person had broken into the car again. First of all, they broke the other lock... yes, they broke in on the other side even though the lock on the opposite side was already broken! Duh... Not to mention that there was nothing of value in the car, and the bathroom radio was left inside. The damage from the previous theft (the gaping hole in the dash) was plainly visible from outside, so it's not like this moron would've missed it.
Same cop came to take the report on this theft as the previous one.. even he was astounded at how stupid this thief was.
Never underestimate the stupidity of someone that resorts to theft.
Glad to know my enjoyment of the DVD sets may have contributed to the show coming back.
I see you posted Friday.. I was talking about Sunday when the fires were first starting up and really flaring up... then, Fox was the only one of the 3 major cable outlets that covered San Diego. Yes, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, etc... picked up the news as the damage really grew later on into Monday and tuesday, but at the start, what I said stands.
I've also seen plenty of reports throught the rest of the week on FOX about San Diego..
This is a bad thing since experience working at Fox news does not exactly enhance your resume when applying for a job with the real media.
Oh please, and you people say that anyone who disagrees with a liberal is single minded and stupid.
I live in San Diego, and while 1/2 the county was burning this last week, I was watching all the local channels and the network news channels. Who was first (by a long shot) to report on fires here? Fox. Hell, even CNN and MSNBC kept simply referring to fires in "Southern California" and only showing shots from LA and San Bernardino, and only short glimpses at that... Fox at least acknowledged early on that there are people and cities south of that. Too much of the "real media" seem to think that "Southern California" == "LA" which is really annoying.
Then the local channels... our local Fox station continued to cover the fires and give constant updates long after the CBS, ABC and NBC channels had gone back to their daytime programming of stupid talk shows and soap operas (heaven forbid they anger that demographic). However, I think that our local non-network channel, KUSI had the most (and perhaps best) overall coverage when compared to even our local Fox station.
Change the name, otherwise don't let the codec win.. teach the idiots a lesson for using that name.
That means you don't have to get the absolute cheapest products available. You have options and you get to vote with your dollars.
Some of us do. For instance, when I went to upgrade my sound system with a better surround setup, I didn't go to any of the big electronic chains, or huge stereo shops. I went (after a friend recommended them) to a small, family run shop that was actually close to my home and had been around for almost 60 years.
Not only did were they not pushy salespeople, but they actually *gasp* knew a lot about audio, video, and basically anything having to do with home theaters. It's such a breath of fresh air to do business with them compared to your usual stores.. no lackey salsemen that have no real knowledge of the equipment and push you to buy the more expensive items. These people would even recommend other stores if they didn't meet your needs.
Personally, I'm always willing to pay more for better service, and better choices. I refuse to shop at places like WalMart (god I hate that place) where it's just massive, crappy stock at cheap prices and some of the dumbest (and slow) people in the world as employees.
Except you DO get an improvement today.
Small sample just to back you up, all apps were about the same, but here's a -benchmark off the latest (well, at the time a couple months ago) distributed net client:
3.06Ghz Xeon P4:
OGR: Benchmark for core #0 (GARSP 5.13-A)
0.00:00:16.30 [12,660,751 nodes/sec]
Benchmark for core #6 (DG 3-pipe)
0.00:00:16.19 [4,279,800 keys/sec]
2GHz Opteron:
OGR: Benchmark for core #0 (GARSP 5.13-A)
0.00:00:16.50 [15,203,720 nodes/sec]
Benchmark for core #7 (DG 3-pipe alt)
0.00:00:16.06 [7,447,653 keys/sec]
Note the opteron is 2/3 the speed, but kicks the Xeon's ass... and the P4 has optimizations in the dnet client, the opterons do not.
Yes yes... it's opteron vs athlon64 but the athlon64 fx mentioned is almost the exact same chip.
What I don't get is why they didn't just get a sample 2.0GHz Opteron to test with instead of OC'ing the 1.8 one.. they do exist... I should know, I've got a dual proc test box at work: /proc/cpuinfo
% grep MHz
cpu MHz : 1971.563
cpu MHz : 1971.563
For those that care... this box is still running in 32 bit mode (couldn't build 64 bit openafs client yet and we rely heavily on afs.. 1.2.10 client that came out since I tried appears to have the support now though). I did tests with programs like mp3 rips and the distributed net client benchmark. The dnet client was 28% and 74%(!) faster for the GARSP 5.13-A and DG-3 pipe tests respectively compared to a dual 3GHz Xeon box. And the dnet client has P4 optimized cores, but doesn't have opteron optimizations.
We've tested Itanium2's as well, and while their performance compared to sparc hardware is much faster, their 32bit emulation sucks rocks. And we haven't had comparable programs on opteron to compare with itanium yet (in 64 bit mode).