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incentive for a company such as that to open source. I was going to mod down, but I don't have a -1 Wrong. Companies will have an incentive to release open source software because people will demand it. The real advantage to OSS is to consumers because it stops vendor lock-in. The Microsofts of the world will lose business to OSS when people learn their lesson after paying hundreds for Office suites over the years. Right now OSS happens to often to be free, but that's just because Linux just isn't as easy to use as Windows right now. If Linux and Windows were the same thing except Linux came with source, MS would go out of business. That's the businesses' incentive.
I heard about an installation of balloon equipment. They were able to winch down the balloons and get the equipment off them, but the balloons were just too big to be taken anywhere (couldn't fly away either, they were just tethered). But it's not a terrible idea.
I don't often go to movies, but I did notice that some movies had problems and some didn't.
I went and saw Million Dollar Baby (I had a female boxer friend, she thought it would be about boxing) and it was an older crowd. Not 20-ish, but like 40s and 50s. They all wanted to see Clint Eastwood. There was not a single cell phone going off, no kids crying, nothing. I thought that was great.
Another time I went to see The Incredibles. The doors at the back of the theater were being kept open because kids were going to get snacks and then not wanting to miss out on the movie. The constant sound of their eating was just deafening. And yes, there were tons of kids screaming and phones ringing. Although there was no throwing of food, never seen that before.
Article: Based on the data created from our sample searches, this study concludes that a user can expect, on average, to receive 166.9% more results using the Google search engine than the Yahoo! search engine.
Parent: Yahoo may simply have tighter controls of what is considered a match, which, by the way, is no simple algorithm.
Read the article and tell me where they conclude anything other than the fact that google returns more results. You people need to actually read the conclusion, kthnx. Yes, they hint that Yahoo might be lying, but they never conclude it.
Based on the data created from our sample searches, this study concludes that a user can expect, on average, to receive 166.9% more results using the Google search engine than the Yahoo! search engine.
Read that and tell me where they conclude that Google returns better results. You people need to actually read the conclusion, kthnx.
"Well I can do it, so it's ok, because if it's possible to find out, it's public, and there's no difference between information being buried in the net and it being collected in one place and published in a search engine"
Just because an organization is too lazy to remove personal information from indexes doesn't make them any less accountable. ZDNet is saying "Hey, so are you for or against posting of personal information? Let us know and we'll publish the story." And of course the answer is "no, we're not doing anything about it."
To use an extreme example (which happens to also be illegal, but being immoral doesn't always imply being illegal), it's not a reasonable thing for me to do to shoot the CEO of Smith & Wesson.
Uhhhh, how about comparing it to a website that refuses to remove personal information? You seem to be for and against it in the same post.
Sheesh, read the article. When there's a vulnerability in say, phpBB, and a haX0r wants to find it, they can just search google for the vulnerable version. So if you want to find a haX0r, just find a dude that searches google for vulnerable versions of phpBB. That's an example which has nothing to do with files that shouldn't be viewed or invisible links.
Also, if Google can find those files so can any other web-crawler.
If there's a small bug in a piece of software I use I'd rather just patch it myself, if only for my personal use, than to wait for the company to patch it.
Apples and oranges. Are people rabid about v14gra mailing lists? No, because you subscribe to mailing lists. You intentionally visit simulated rape porn sites. Spammers do their best to come to you and there needs to be a method to filter it out. It has nothing to do with content.
"Our goal in filing the trademark for the name M.A.M.E. was simply to give us leverage against those companies that promote and sell machines with M.A.M.E. installed on it, and more importantly, provide their customers with the means to illegally obtain the ROMs. This doesn't help our sales of our products. This doesn't help the community in general.
We have no desire to use the M.A.M.E. name or logos; we simply wish to find ways to prevent illegal distribution of classic arcade games. We will be happy to cancel our application and work with the M.A.M.E. team to assign it to its rightful owners; however we do want to prevent it from being awarded to someone that intends to use it commercially."
So if you sell a home made cabinet with mame installed on it (like on ebay), he wants to sue you. Not based on the merits of selling mame or illegal roms, but based on using the name.
Your ass hat is on too tight, it's restricting blood flow to your brain =P The premium templates are in fact, resold through templatemonter.com. See our tesitmonial on templatemonster. The premium designs section takes care of hosting costs, and actually helps people when they can't find the right free design.
What you skipped over is the 1001 FREE templates. Totally free public domain templates. The entire front page is dedicated to the free designs. The Browse, Search, Design Or Not, etc. are all free designs. The free section is our main project goal.
It doesn't matter if you can/can't modify your buggy software, think of the big picture. A company can pay the lowest bidder to do linux work. To fix the Windows OS, you have to pay Microsoft. Basic economics tells us that Linux would be cheaper to maintain because it's open source.
A real world example: Red Hat decided they didn't want the personal pc market anymore, someone else took up the job. If Red Hat had closed source they would have just raised prices to stay in. People would start paying more because they already had lots of cash invested in Red Hat, and the cost of switching would be more than support costs.
CSS doesn't cut it, period. I know how awesome CSS based layouts are, that's why I used 90% divs. Check out the browse page, each "design" is a div and the layout is fluid. Something not possible with tables, I love that. Still, how I get it so that I can have 2 divs side by side where the column with the most content will decide the height of both columns. Tell me that I will move to a tableless layout. I can't even figure that one out in gecko based browsers, let alone IE5.
I understand the modifiability bonus. Although I have a site wide template (PHP template system) for the layout and have the features you're talking about without css. Although I still use styles/classes for my tables because of bandwidth savings and some modifiability.
Basically, I'm going to let the artist decide the layout. I'm not going to tie my hands behind my back and use a different layout because someone doesn't like tables. None of my site visitors have ever made a complaint about tables.
But really, if you have a solution to my css problem please tell me. I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I will switch when I get a solution that works on IE5, IE6, and gecko. That's why I haven't switched, not because of ability limitations.
I let the artist decide the layout, then I wrote the code for it. He wanted 2 columns side by side with the column on the right dictating the height of both columns. I also needed it to work back to IE5.
I used divs/css where possible, but sometimes css doesn't cut it, and I'll use it when it does. Oh, and if you think it's old school to use 3 tables in a layout, then you're either too young or too naive to remember what old table based layouts used to look like.
No... the advantage of using mysql and apache is because soemeone is writing that code for you. And I'm sure if your program was good enough people will maintain your debian packages if you release the source for it.
What? Do you have a v1agr4 website hosted at your ip address? An open mail relay? Serving web pages and forwarding mail are verifiable.
The only gray with websites is if the linked page was involved with thr spamming. Although if the spam said "get a l0an" and linked to "Trepalium's place in cyberspace," I don't think anyone would be fooled. Usually you can point out a spam website though. I'd only be worried if you were into loans, pills, or degrees.
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incentive for a company such as that to open source. I was going to mod down, but I don't have a -1 Wrong. Companies will have an incentive to release open source software because people will demand it. The real advantage to OSS is to consumers because it stops vendor lock-in. The Microsofts of the world will lose business to OSS when people learn their lesson after paying hundreds for Office suites over the years. Right now OSS happens to often to be free, but that's just because Linux just isn't as easy to use as Windows right now. If Linux and Windows were the same thing except Linux came with source, MS would go out of business. That's the businesses' incentive.
ThinkGeek doesn't sell black paint.
I heard about an installation of balloon equipment. They were able to winch down the balloons and get the equipment off them, but the balloons were just too big to be taken anywhere (couldn't fly away either, they were just tethered). But it's not a terrible idea.
I don't often go to movies, but I did notice that some movies had problems and some didn't.
I went and saw Million Dollar Baby (I had a female boxer friend, she thought it would be about boxing) and it was an older crowd. Not 20-ish, but like 40s and 50s. They all wanted to see Clint Eastwood. There was not a single cell phone going off, no kids crying, nothing. I thought that was great.
Another time I went to see The Incredibles. The doors at the back of the theater were being kept open because kids were going to get snacks and then not wanting to miss out on the movie. The constant sound of their eating was just deafening. And yes, there were tons of kids screaming and phones ringing. Although there was no throwing of food, never seen that before.
Article: Based on the data created from our sample searches, this study concludes that a user can expect, on average, to receive 166.9% more results using the Google search engine than the Yahoo! search engine.
Parent: Yahoo may simply have tighter controls of what is considered a match, which, by the way, is no simple algorithm.
Read the article and tell me where they conclude anything other than the fact that google returns more results. You people need to actually read the conclusion, kthnx. Yes, they hint that Yahoo might be lying, but they never conclude it.
Based on the data created from our sample searches, this study concludes that a user can expect, on average, to receive 166.9% more results using the Google search engine than the Yahoo! search engine.
Read that and tell me where they conclude that Google returns better results. You people need to actually read the conclusion, kthnx.
Your browser does not store money, a slot machine does.
"Well I can do it, so it's ok, because if it's possible to find out, it's public, and there's no difference between information being buried in the net and it being collected in one place and published in a search engine"
Just because an organization is too lazy to remove personal information from indexes doesn't make them any less accountable. ZDNet is saying "Hey, so are you for or against posting of personal information? Let us know and we'll publish the story." And of course the answer is "no, we're not doing anything about it."
To use an extreme example (which happens to also be illegal, but being immoral doesn't always imply being illegal), it's not a reasonable thing for me to do to shoot the CEO of Smith & Wesson.
Uhhhh, how about comparing it to a website that refuses to remove personal information? You seem to be for and against it in the same post.
if you've ever ran a website that gets a decent amount of traffic
I do, and your wrong. Regardless, pulling data is fundamentally less efficient than pushing.
Third, a smart site operator would have a script set up that would create a static rss feed instead of a dynamic one, perhaps running it each minute.
I would imagine the smart site operator would just update the rss feed whenever the data is changed.
They're easy to set up on a site. They're easy to use as a client.
I'd say about that's the only reason for their popularity, but just because you like using them doesn't mean they have any technical merit.
Sheesh, read the article. When there's a vulnerability in say, phpBB, and a haX0r wants to find it, they can just search google for the vulnerable version. So if you want to find a haX0r, just find a dude that searches google for vulnerable versions of phpBB. That's an example which has nothing to do with files that shouldn't be viewed or invisible links.
Also, if Google can find those files so can any other web-crawler.
Ugh.
A certain percentage of the income must be from donations to be a non-profit.
If there's a small bug in a piece of software I use I'd rather just patch it myself, if only for my personal use, than to wait for the company to patch it.
Apples and oranges. Are people rabid about v14gra mailing lists? No, because you subscribe to mailing lists. You intentionally visit simulated rape porn sites. Spammers do their best to come to you and there needs to be a method to filter it out. It has nothing to do with content.
Or I could just use a table and tell on the table nazis to shut up.
Try "the voice of wrong." From his website:
"Our goal in filing the trademark for the name M.A.M.E. was simply to give us leverage against those companies that promote and sell machines with M.A.M.E. installed on it, and more importantly, provide their customers with the means to illegally obtain the ROMs. This doesn't help our sales of our products. This doesn't help the community in general.
We have no desire to use the M.A.M.E. name or logos; we simply wish to find ways to prevent illegal distribution of classic arcade games. We will be happy to cancel our application and work with the M.A.M.E. team to assign it to its rightful owners; however we do want to prevent it from being awarded to someone that intends to use it commercially."
So if you sell a home made cabinet with mame installed on it (like on ebay), he wants to sue you. Not based on the merits of selling mame or illegal roms, but based on using the name.
I agree. I want a div that is the same height as a div next to it. Care to offer a suggestion?
"but it didn't stop him from stealing my things."
What is the point of a secret weapon if you don't tell everyone about it?!
Your ass hat is on too tight, it's restricting blood flow to your brain =P The premium templates are in fact, resold through templatemonter.com. See our tesitmonial on templatemonster. The premium designs section takes care of hosting costs, and actually helps people when they can't find the right free design.
What you skipped over is the 1001 FREE templates. Totally free public domain templates. The entire front page is dedicated to the free designs. The Browse, Search, Design Or Not, etc. are all free designs. The free section is our main project goal.
It doesn't matter if you can/can't modify your buggy software, think of the big picture. A company can pay the lowest bidder to do linux work. To fix the Windows OS, you have to pay Microsoft. Basic economics tells us that Linux would be cheaper to maintain because it's open source.
A real world example: Red Hat decided they didn't want the personal pc market anymore, someone else took up the job. If Red Hat had closed source they would have just raised prices to stay in. People would start paying more because they already had lots of cash invested in Red Hat, and the cost of switching would be more than support costs.
CSS doesn't cut it, period. I know how awesome CSS based layouts are, that's why I used 90% divs. Check out the browse page, each "design" is a div and the layout is fluid. Something not possible with tables, I love that. Still, how I get it so that I can have 2 divs side by side where the column with the most content will decide the height of both columns. Tell me that I will move to a tableless layout. I can't even figure that one out in gecko based browsers, let alone IE5.
I understand the modifiability bonus. Although I have a site wide template (PHP template system) for the layout and have the features you're talking about without css. Although I still use styles/classes for my tables because of bandwidth savings and some modifiability.
Basically, I'm going to let the artist decide the layout. I'm not going to tie my hands behind my back and use a different layout because someone doesn't like tables. None of my site visitors have ever made a complaint about tables.
But really, if you have a solution to my css problem please tell me. I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I will switch when I get a solution that works on IE5, IE6, and gecko. That's why I haven't switched, not because of ability limitations.
I let the artist decide the layout, then I wrote the code for it. He wanted 2 columns side by side with the column on the right dictating the height of both columns. I also needed it to work back to IE5.
I used divs/css where possible, but sometimes css doesn't cut it, and I'll use it when it does. Oh, and if you think it's old school to use 3 tables in a layout, then you're either too young or too naive to remember what old table based layouts used to look like.
Glad you like my site :D
We just wanted people to be able to put up content without having to worry about the design. But yes, a lot of people just look at templates to learn.
I've been around for a while, what I really need is a monkeywoman.
No ... the advantage of using mysql and apache is because soemeone is writing that code for you. And I'm sure if your program was good enough people will maintain your debian packages if you release the source for it.
What? Do you have a v1agr4 website hosted at your ip address? An open mail relay? Serving web pages and forwarding mail are verifiable.
The only gray with websites is if the linked page was involved with thr spamming. Although if the spam said "get a l0an" and linked to "Trepalium's place in cyberspace," I don't think anyone would be fooled. Usually you can point out a spam website though. I'd only be worried if you were into loans, pills, or degrees.