If that happens to be at the ATO great. I want to be a typist:). 4 hours a day, 17+ dollars an hour. Plenty of time for home projects and it get some money. Execelent set up. Also, week end pay is double time or something or extra pay and eventualy you do get 8 hours a day when its busy so i'd be very happy to get that job as i have nothing atm and havnt had anything for near 6 months:(
You'd think it would be very "Australian" for the Australian government to help out another Australian in his time of need. Why doesnt the Aussie government go and collect him? Does it have to do with what province he landed upon? Who cares? Australians should do it. Or maybe because the Australians rescued someone from britian (tony buliiblabla?) the Australian government says to england/britan, ok, you'r turn now, even thought this has nothing to do with them. That'd still be funny to see!
Cool, maybe the Australian taxation office will be able to read those applications forms i've been sending in openoffice format now? Wooh, i might get a job soon.
I think people find it hard to estimate what actualy is intermediate or advanced. The linux version means a different thing to Windows and also it means something different when you combine all OS's into the one category. "computing" and even then, everyone has his/her different opinions on what is a begginer/intermediate/advance... For example, linus might consider myself a beginer, but my mother will most likly consider me an expert, where as i would prolly describe my self as intermediate.
>While many people try to fork projects, those forks > only become significant if they fulfill some need. > Otherwise, the forked project won't attract the >necessary developer base and they will slowly go >away.
Well said, i feel this is a kinda of Software evolution via natural selection. The better software or the most usful software finds the users then developers and succeeds unless something better and more usful comes out.
Its got its good and bad points, but if the above happens such as i believe it does. Linux is a good example of this, where as at distro watch adds several distros per week and they have a dead list of which 70 odd are there? Not sure on the figures.
Natural Selection worked for living things, i also think its working for Open Source software, but it works better with opensource software than commercial software cause anyone can fork and start a new project!! Anyone, and the pace recently of OSS dev is huge.
I know for slashdot the subject is a little weird, but i find 98 quite good. I mean, i run it fine and it hardly ever crashes. Some programs are worse than others and then its not MSs fault (although better memory protection may be needed) but 3rd party apps.
Thats a damn shame they had to stop supporting it. How many people stil use it? I know of a few and i think i'd rather use it thanx XP, but then, i'd rather use linux than anything else.
Well to quote: <quote> Eugenia (IP: ---.osnews.com) - Posted on 2003-12-09 01:21:59 Xouvert: XFree86 fork with some code cleanups and addition of patches that the xfree86 guys were snobbing.
freedesktop.org's X: Re-write of the core of their server (not a fork), rewrite of some of the extenstions, while reusing some xfree86 code mostly for some other extensions and drivers, but overall a new thing.
Xouvert would be interesting to serve as the "middle man" towards the migration to fdo's X. </quote>
So yes you'r right. I read on freedesktop.orgs site, or maybe it wasnt, and maybe it was old, but the server only needed less than 800k To run or it was of that size. Their server so far requires a compile for you to configure it as there are no configuration files. That alone i feel would cut out some bloat. The freedesktop.org promises a lot more i believe where as this one we're talking about just imporves on the current X server. But, any improvments are welcome ones.
Sun seem to have done the right thing, at the right time. I assume the Java Desktop thingo doesnt have huge licence fees, because then there would be no point in people using it, if their sole reason was to get away from Microsoft!
Good on Sun! Someone had to do it, and really, who else could have pulled it off? And dont say Apple:)
I used to work for one of Australias leading supermarkets, Safeway (aka Woolworths), which i may need to make a return too:( But to get back ontopic, i was working there 3+ years ago and to "log on" to "time" i would walk up stairs every shift, type my pin on the pad and place my left index finger on the screen to be scanned. I guess i didnt think about it that much but when itold people about this they were very surprised and though it was very "Star Treck" of them to be so "futuristic".
Truth is, i reckon these have been in use for a long time, and im surprised to hear they're only starting to take off! Very Surprised!
At the moment theres only a real large advantage if you use Mozilla for only mail or only browser, where you would replace a HUGE suit with just one app.
However, if then you decide to give the other app ago, such as thunderbird it has its own versions of the libraries which firebird is running, so you have to load basicly the same libraries twice, which both have similar functions. Also, they dont share the same runtime/gecko runtime environment.
If you look at the libraries they both need, each one, thunderbird and firebird have a lot of the same libraries however each one differs. Thunderbird has only functions relevant to it and firebird the same with its library but i would assume there would be some overhead. A good example would be is that i assume they dont share the toolkit libraries!
This i feel is only temporary as when these standalone apps takeover the current mozilla suit browser and mail clients they'll both be sharing the same libraries and the same runtime environment as the mozilla suit applications do now.
Fantastic, i havnt used windows for anything useful since thunderbird started to work:) I find that the releases are fairly quick too. I assume the release scheduel will coinside with firebird once they replace mozilla/seamonkey?? If thats the right name for the XPFE browser... forgets:)
I'll download again, although i might have to wait for my woody install:( But the guy who takes care of those is pretty fast!
To my knowledge, the A1000 was created by Jay Minor, who i believe has "passed on" now. For give me if im wrong:). He worked at Atari and possibly lead the development of several of their chipsets. Jay wanted to create something astonishing, something to blow the computer world away. For some reason or another, Atari didnt want to. So Jay quite and moved to his back shed where he worked on the Amiga. You can still find pictures where each chip was built out of several bread boards... Interesting stuff!
Anyway, eventualy commador bought the Amiga design and hired Jay, Made everyone involved famous and rich and then killed them Amiga less than 10 years later:)
Heres a nice, show report? and some technical details about the first Amiga or as it was code named, "lorraine".
I may be alittle bias, but i may not since i dont use Amiga's, but i did.
I did find it a little strange that the Amiga 1000 didnt make it into the 10 initially, how could someone over look this?
That machine was head and sholders above anything for its time and we can thank it today because it brought multimedia to us. It WAS the first multimieda computer, although it was mainly for games, the machine came with a powerful operating system that even today i still inuse by thousands of people. Thats no joke!
This was a computer made by love and upon opening the case and looking inside, you can see the signitures of each person that made the computer. Maybe not everyone, but certainly the more well known or more involved ones.
Well i see Lindows selling more and more computers and substantial sales for their laptops. I also see the possiblity of myself either having one of those Lindows laptops, a normal laptop with debian installed, an AmigaOne with debian and AmigaOS4 or an Apple iBook with debian installed...
Hrmm... The future is looking very much like debian. I see more desktop oriented linux distro's based on linux. I also see standard debian programs such as APT starting to be excepted by other distributors which will lead to the a standard front end for package mangement:) *wish*
Ummm...
Commercial Unix will suffer again whilst linux is triumphant in the server market. Linux will start to make inroads into desktop OS...
Kernel 2.6 will kick off a lot of new distros and the overall user experience will be improved!
You can do the transformations on the client side. Maybe two setups could be developed, one for those who have XML support on the client side, such as Mozilla based browsers and internet explorer and those who dont for older brwosers...
Simple, XML covers everything! But the idea i like is that if i want i could define my own XSL file for slashdot. Say take the XML code from the web site and format it on my machine so i can read it how i want. Also, this is great for little side bars that just want to summerise the news for the day or the major headings.
So many applications. If slashdot DOES plan to do anything. XML is a must!
Sorry, but i feel that advantages such as reduced bandwidth, matainability and future enhancment out wieght the advnatages of XHTML and CSS. I dont see XHTML offering much. Yes CSS offers something but XHTML is even more bulkier (not by much, but some) than HTML.
Basicly let me explain what you can do with XSLT. Say you have a table, with 20 plus cells.. This each cell is verticaly listed, has a title and a paragraph. In XSLT all that is required is to have a generic cell and map this to each peice of data in the XML Tree. This cuts down the HTML that has to be transmitted. Sure this was a simple example and a lot of the gains would have been reduced due to the size of XML but in more complex examples XSLT is fantastic for reducing the size of your site. Plus i also believe XML helps for future upgrades because of its flexibility and modular design in comparison to HTML (content and data in the one document).
Also, lets not forget about the advantages of chache. Lets say that each slashdot sections, such as apple, main, apache, books etc use the same XSLT sheet for layout. The XSLT style sheet does not have to be redownloaded for each section. You'd prolly have a seperate CSS document for each section but again, these are very small.
If reduced bandwidth is what you want. You can look past XML+XSLT+CSS!
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Ummm yes :) in short, i want a job.
:). 4 hours a day, 17+ dollars an hour. Plenty of time for home projects and it get some money. Execelent set up. Also, week end pay is double time or something or extra pay and eventualy you do get 8 hours a day when its busy so i'd be very happy to get that job as i have nothing atm and havnt had anything for near 6 months :(
If that happens to be at the ATO great. I want to be a typist
G'day and welcome to the Australian Slashdot, news for nerds stuff that mattahs
You'd think it would be very "Australian" for the Australian government to help out another Australian in his time of need. Why doesnt the Aussie government go and collect him? Does it have to do with what province he landed upon? Who cares? Australians should do it. Or maybe because the Australians rescued someone from britian (tony buliiblabla?) the Australian government says to england/britan, ok, you'r turn now, even thought this has nothing to do with them. That'd still be funny to see!
Cool, maybe the Australian taxation office will be able to read those applications forms i've been sending in openoffice format now? Wooh, i might get a job soon.
I think people find it hard to estimate what actualy is intermediate or advanced. The linux version means a different thing to Windows and also it means something different when you combine all OS's into the one category. "computing" and even then, everyone has his/her different opinions on what is a begginer/intermediate/advance... For example, linus might consider myself a beginer, but my mother will most likly consider me an expert, where as i would prolly describe my self as intermediate.
>While many people try to fork projects, those forks
> only become significant if they fulfill some need.
> Otherwise, the forked project won't attract the
>necessary developer base and they will slowly go
>away.
Well said, i feel this is a kinda of Software evolution via natural selection. The better software or the most usful software finds the users then developers and succeeds unless something better and more usful comes out.
Its got its good and bad points, but if the above happens such as i believe it does. Linux is a good example of this, where as at distro watch adds several distros per week and they have a dead list of which 70 odd are there? Not sure on the figures.
Natural Selection worked for living things, i also think its working for Open Source software, but it works better with opensource software than commercial software cause anyone can fork and start a new project!! Anyone, and the pace recently of OSS dev is huge.
I know for slashdot the subject is a little weird, but i find 98 quite good. I mean, i run it fine and it hardly ever crashes. Some programs are worse than others and then its not MSs fault (although better memory protection may be needed) but 3rd party apps.
Thats a damn shame they had to stop supporting it. How many people stil use it? I know of a few and i think i'd rather use it thanx XP, but then, i'd rather use linux than anything else.
Well to quote:
<quote>
Eugenia (IP: ---.osnews.com) - Posted on 2003-12-09 01:21:59
Xouvert: XFree86 fork with some code cleanups and addition of patches that the xfree86 guys were snobbing.
freedesktop.org's X: Re-write of the core of their server (not a fork), rewrite of some of the extenstions, while reusing some xfree86 code mostly for some other extensions and drivers, but overall a new thing.
Xouvert would be interesting to serve as the "middle man" towards the migration to fdo's X.
</quote>
So yes you'r right. I read on freedesktop.orgs site, or maybe it wasnt, and maybe it was old, but the server only needed less than 800k To run or it was of that size. Their server so far requires a compile for you to configure it as there are no configuration files. That alone i feel would cut out some bloat. The freedesktop.org promises a lot more i believe where as this one we're talking about just imporves on the current X server. But, any improvments are welcome ones.
Thanx for the text Eugenia
Sun seem to have done the right thing, at the right time. I assume the Java Desktop thingo doesnt have huge licence fees, because then there would be no point in people using it, if their sole reason was to get away from Microsoft!
:)
Good on Sun! Someone had to do it, and really, who else could have pulled it off? And dont say Apple
Great, Grand, Wonderful... Everybody on the BUS!
I used to work for one of Australias leading supermarkets, Safeway (aka Woolworths), which i may need to make a return too :( But to get back ontopic, i was working there 3+ years ago and to "log on" to "time" i would walk up stairs every shift, type my pin on the pad and place my left index finger on the screen to be scanned. I guess i didnt think about it that much but when itold people about this they were very surprised and though it was very "Star Treck" of them to be so "futuristic".
Truth is, i reckon these have been in use for a long time, and im surprised to hear they're only starting to take off! Very Surprised!
This will all change.
At the moment theres only a real large advantage if you use Mozilla for only mail or only browser, where you would replace a HUGE suit with just one app.
However, if then you decide to give the other app ago, such as thunderbird it has its own versions of the libraries which firebird is running, so you have to load basicly the same libraries twice, which both have similar functions. Also, they dont share the same runtime/gecko runtime environment.
If you look at the libraries they both need, each one, thunderbird and firebird have a lot of the same libraries however each one differs. Thunderbird has only functions relevant to it and firebird the same with its library but i would assume there would be some overhead. A good example would be is that i assume they dont share the toolkit libraries!
This i feel is only temporary as when these standalone apps takeover the current mozilla suit browser and mail clients they'll both be sharing the same libraries and the same runtime environment as the mozilla suit applications do now.
Fantastic, i havnt used windows for anything useful since thunderbird started to work :) I find that the releases are fairly quick too. I assume the release scheduel will coinside with firebird once they replace mozilla/seamonkey?? If thats the right name for the XPFE browser... forgets :)
:( But the guy who takes care of those is pretty fast!
I'll download again, although i might have to wait for my woody install
To my knowledge, the A1000 was created by Jay Minor, who i believe has "passed on" now. For give me if im wrong :). He worked at Atari and possibly lead the development of several of their chipsets. Jay wanted to create something astonishing, something to blow the computer world away. For some reason or another, Atari didnt want to. So Jay quite and moved to his back shed where he worked on the Amiga. You can still find pictures where each chip was built out of several bread boards... Interesting stuff!
:)
A miga_Lorraine_finally_.php
Anyway, eventualy commador bought the Amiga design and hired Jay, Made everyone involved famous and rich and then killed them Amiga less than 10 years later
Heres a nice, show report? and some technical details about the first Amiga or as it was code named, "lorraine".
http://www.atarimagazines.com/creative/v10n4/150_
I may be alittle bias, but i may not since i dont use Amiga's, but i did.
I did find it a little strange that the Amiga 1000 didnt make it into the 10 initially, how could someone over look this?
That machine was head and sholders above anything for its time and we can thank it today because it brought multimedia to us. It WAS the first multimieda computer, although it was mainly for games, the machine came with a powerful operating system that even today i still inuse by thousands of people. Thats no joke!
Check out the fan sites such as Amiga.org and AmigaWorld.net.
This was a computer made by love and upon opening the case and looking inside, you can see the signitures of each person that made the computer. Maybe not everyone, but certainly the more well known or more involved ones.
This is what google has to say about the Amiga A1000
Dildo.
With linux's uptime you could use it for months on end.
Well i may start to not take intel into consideration as well :) Thanx slashdot!
What makes you think there wont be a visual Development Environment for SVG or WVG?
I assume this is what you mean, because theres no way in hell you'd be able to know which one is easier, because wvg/sparkel isnt out yet..
This will never happen where i live, we still get away with references to "poofs" on commercial TV. Also, we get away with the odd sware word!
Whats the difference betweena ble/w oody/
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/st
and
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/
Is this the result of the problems for freetype 2.1 backport for woody?
pffft... go with the flow man, let apt-get do its job
:)
Chill
ARgghhh they removed... oohhh hold on... *snigger* i dont use the debian sources for this :)
:)
deb http://www.micq.org/deb/ stable main
Also i do update my install every now and then. But, whats the point of calling it "r2" if most of the stuff or a lot of it has already been released?
Just a chance for a cool release? Sweet
Well i see Lindows selling more and more computers and substantial sales for their laptops. I also see the possiblity of myself either having one of those Lindows laptops, a normal laptop with debian installed, an AmigaOne with debian and AmigaOS4 or an Apple iBook with debian installed...
:) *wish*
Hrmm... The future is looking very much like debian. I see more desktop oriented linux distro's based on linux. I also see standard debian programs such as APT starting to be excepted by other distributors which will lead to the a standard front end for package mangement
Ummm...
Commercial Unix will suffer again whilst linux is triumphant in the server market. Linux will start to make inroads into desktop OS...
Kernel 2.6 will kick off a lot of new distros and the overall user experience will be improved!
You can do the transformations on the client side. Maybe two setups could be developed, one for those who have XML support on the client side, such as Mozilla based browsers and internet explorer and those who dont for older brwosers...
Simple, XML covers everything! But the idea i like is that if i want i could define my own XSL file for slashdot. Say take the XML code from the web site and format it on my machine so i can read it how i want. Also, this is great for little side bars that just want to summerise the news for the day or the major headings.
So many applications. If slashdot DOES plan to do anything. XML is a must!
Sorry, but i feel that advantages such as reduced bandwidth, matainability and future enhancment out wieght the advnatages of XHTML and CSS. I dont see XHTML offering much. Yes CSS offers something but XHTML is even more bulkier (not by much, but some) than HTML.
Basicly let me explain what you can do with XSLT. Say you have a table, with 20 plus cells.. This each cell is verticaly listed, has a title and a paragraph. In XSLT all that is required is to have a generic cell and map this to each peice of data in the XML Tree. This cuts down the HTML that has to be transmitted. Sure this was a simple example and a lot of the gains would have been reduced due to the size of XML but in more complex examples XSLT is fantastic for reducing the size of your site. Plus i also believe XML helps for future upgrades because of its flexibility and modular design in comparison to HTML (content and data in the one document).
Also, lets not forget about the advantages of chache. Lets say that each slashdot sections, such as apple, main, apache, books etc use the same XSLT sheet for layout. The XSLT style sheet does not have to be redownloaded for each section. You'd prolly have a seperate CSS document for each section but again, these are very small.
If reduced bandwidth is what you want. You can look past XML+XSLT+CSS!