It takes big corporations spending big money to convince people they are ruling the show rather than just being cattle to aforementioned corporate overlords. Tough shit ain't it?
Else, you can take over Antarctica, break a few treaties and start your own country with sane laws but insane weather.
Byte is gone, the world has changed.
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In other words, somebody bought the domain name to byte.com and is now trying to drum up interest in a new website with content unrelated to the original magazine on the assertion that they have the same name. Fail.
I'm not missing Jerry Pournelle either, but the deep background articles that were THE killer feature of the dead tree publication now live on sites like acmqueue, arstechnica and others.
The king is dead, long live the king; shame on those pretending to take its throne by taking its name.
Just wait till the chinese manufacturers start toying with one. Want to sell your used motherboard on craigslist? Sorry, no can do, this luxuriuously ASUS-branded product was sold to YOU and only YOU.
Considering the amount of stuff that gets produced abroad, I suspect this decision will soon be so full of holes and exceptions that it wont be an issue.
I can live with a fork. I can live with OpenJDK on production servers. I can live with having to _port_ an OpenJDK-bound program to OracleJava for the sucker corporations who require it. I can live with Larry Ellison choking on his 10000$ per core reference implementation til he shits his Armani pants.
The Java community is much closer to Apache than to Oracle. Has most always been. The community has been developping it's own solutions before the official ones. And they're better, too. e.g : Log4J vs Java Logging. Spring/Hibernate vs EJB. etc. On a few rare occasions, Sun even had the common sense of officializing the community projects, like concurrent-utils.
The only question remains, how cleanly will lawyers let us do that fragmentation? If Oracle gets too greedy, or if the process take too long, we will certainly move on to another platform.
Your last two paragraphs appear to be complete blather. "Hardware-accelerated social simulation circuits": zero meaning.
I'm sorry, but this made perfect sense to me. Maybe YOU are not allowing your brain to work with physical abstractions as if they were living entities, but some of us do, and it's a quite effective modeling tool, as the GP was trying to demonstrate.
Now whether "information wants to be free" as much "heat wants to flow from hot to cold" is certainly discussable, as information is somewhat more shifty concept than energy, but there is definite tendency for it to replicate and propagate, given the right medium. DNA strands, human knowledge...
But in the same release they also put in stuff that just wont run in 1.4. So much that libraries often come in 1.4 and 1.5 versions. So they might as well have gone the whole way and put in the whole generics. What you dont want to break is 1.4 code running on 1.5. But to make provisions for the other way around is limiting, if not downright retarded.
It's too bad that some of the most promising new languages (Scala, Clojure) are JDK based. What we need is a modern lingua-de-franca, a language that's structured enough, with modern features, a good standard library, and that doesnt take 10 years to master. Go is still proprietary shite that will bite you after Google turns evil (and you know they will). Havent looked at D yet. Erlang maybe?
Is there any high-level, easy language today that's not threathened somewhow by f%^&%ng patents from the big guys?
I'm listening to Abba right now, you insensitive clod!
In Sweden, stealing laptops is The Name Of The Game! Obviously, The Winner Takes it All except he brings back some of it's MP3 on a USB stick to the Dancing Queen, who had been sending out an S.O.S. She then says to the thief Thank You For The Music, followed by Voulez-Vous?. At which point the story turns to swedish erotica which is not appropriate to relate here.
Forget it. They'll sell you an iPad instead of a Macbook Air. They make so much more money from the apps. They wont let their Mac business eat into their iGizmo business margins.
Please don't add a lot of extra eye candy or things to slow us down. I'm using a 2007 MacBook Pro and while it's plenty fast for what I need, I don't want to have to upgrade either.
You do realize that Apple makes money when you buy a new computer from them don't you? Which implies that your needs being met is a hindrance to their bottom line. You can count on them piling superbly designed crap candy fad-driven GUI enhancements for the next hundred years or so.
That is, until they find a way to make you rent your computer, at which point they will suddenly stop all creative process and make you languish in computer limbo for as long as they can.
Really, fuck it. I've had it with corporate-sponsored dick-fighting contest about which browser is the fastest. I really, really couldn't care any less. Features, openness, security, standards compliance, yeah. But If I want a fast app, I'll go native, thank you. Maybe I'm too old, but I've always thought HTML sucked as a programming paradigm. As an information distribution mechanism, sure. But for interactivity? Please. It's about time somebody called bullshit on this. Hell, a goddamn Visual Basic app from fifteen years ago kicked the butt of most modern web sites in usability, performance and ease of maintenance. The only thing that makes the web so attractive is the barrier to entry : free, nothing to install, immediate access to the average brains of millions. Just like TV. No thanks for dumbing it down to this. And now you wanna make it faster? Piss off. Go write real code that does something, not just another abstraction layer.
As frightening as a nuclear Venezuela is, I'd be more scared by a nuclear Vuvuzela.
I'd be willing to pay you 500$ if you can provide me with the actual plans for such a device. Consider it as a deterrent against my early-bird neighbour's lawnmower.
explain to me and people like me how "Zones" are different from "virtual machines?"
Zones share the same kernel. Much, much less overhead than full-blown VMs, both in setup and resource use. You can flavor your zones to be Linux or BSD compatible. You can give them their own (virtual or physical) network adapters. Think Apache Virtual Hosts, but at the OS layer. Or a midaway cross between a chroot and a VM. It's really nice stuff.
We had a french TV show here in Quebec called "Les citadins du rebut global" (loosely translated to "Citizens of the Global Trash"), which is part home building show, part junkyard wars. They have four seasons up to now, each in which they build a house in a different setting and from different found materials. It's quite a good show actually, it won a few TV industry prizes. The website also has a few interesting blurbs of video sprinkled in the "reportages" section.
In one season they have to build a house with only 15000$, in another they renovate an abandoned industrial space, in the third season they build a house supplied only with alternative energy sources.
I dont know if english subs are available for it, but the process of building a house being very graphic by nature I assume you could grasp quite a few concepts just by watching it. They used to sell the show in boxset format, but it might be obtained from "other sources" too. Just sayin'...
If the big questions (why?) are asked in good faith, as I think this one is, it is a great opportunity for people with answers to come out and educate the masses.
Rather than opposing the question, maybe you should put some work towards an answer, as I haven't seen any satisfying one in this thread yet.
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I can't implicitly convert between those two.
If you were using VB, you could! Especially if it wasn't what you wanted!
It takes big corporations spending big money to convince people they are ruling the show rather than just being cattle to aforementioned corporate overlords. Tough shit ain't it?
Else, you can take over Antarctica, break a few treaties and start your own country with sane laws but insane weather.
In other words, somebody bought the domain name to byte.com and is now trying to drum up interest in a new website with content unrelated to the original magazine on the assertion that they have the same name. Fail.
I'm not missing Jerry Pournelle either, but the deep background articles that were THE killer feature of the dead tree publication now live on sites like acmqueue, arstechnica and others.
The king is dead, long live the king; shame on those pretending to take its throne by taking its name.
Just wait till the chinese manufacturers start toying with one. Want to sell your used motherboard on craigslist? Sorry, no can do, this luxuriuously ASUS-branded product was sold to YOU and only YOU.
Considering the amount of stuff that gets produced abroad, I suspect this decision will soon be so full of holes and exceptions that it wont be an issue.
I can live with a fork. I can live with OpenJDK on production servers. I can live with having to _port_ an OpenJDK-bound program to OracleJava for the sucker corporations who require it. I can live with Larry Ellison choking on his 10000$ per core reference implementation til he shits his Armani pants.
The Java community is much closer to Apache than to Oracle. Has most always been. The community has been developping it's own solutions before the official ones. And they're better, too. e.g : Log4J vs Java Logging. Spring/Hibernate vs EJB. etc. On a few rare occasions, Sun even had the common sense of officializing the community projects, like concurrent-utils.
The only question remains, how cleanly will lawyers let us do that fragmentation? If Oracle gets too greedy, or if the process take too long, we will certainly move on to another platform.
Just wait until next week when a mascara satellite lashes out at the GPS network!
FTFY
Your last two paragraphs appear to be complete blather. "Hardware-accelerated social simulation circuits": zero meaning.
I'm sorry, but this made perfect sense to me. Maybe YOU are not allowing your brain to work with physical abstractions as if they were living entities, but some of us do, and it's a quite effective modeling tool, as the GP was trying to demonstrate.
Now whether "information wants to be free" as much "heat wants to flow from hot to cold" is certainly discussable, as information is somewhat more shifty concept than energy, but there is definite tendency for it to replicate and propagate, given the right medium. DNA strands, human knowledge...
But in the same release they also put in stuff that just wont run in 1.4. So much that libraries often come in 1.4 and 1.5 versions. So they might as well have gone the whole way and put in the whole generics. What you dont want to break is 1.4 code running on 1.5. But to make provisions for the other way around is limiting, if not downright retarded.
That's what Clojure's for.
It's too bad that some of the most promising new languages (Scala, Clojure) are JDK based. What we need is a modern lingua-de-franca, a language that's structured enough, with modern features, a good standard library, and that doesnt take 10 years to master. Go is still proprietary shite that will bite you after Google turns evil (and you know they will). Havent looked at D yet. Erlang maybe?
Is there any high-level, easy language today that's not threathened somewhow by f%^&%ng patents from the big guys?
Is it powerful enough to run Civilization V?
Only if you run a Beowolf cluster of them.
you'll most likely end up floating in space.
You might also rematerialize inside earth's crust. I've heard this is good for acne, if you have any.
I'm listening to Abba right now, you insensitive clod!
In Sweden, stealing laptops is The Name Of The Game! Obviously, The Winner Takes it All except he brings back some of it's MP3 on a USB stick to the Dancing Queen, who had been sending out an S.O.S. She then says to the thief Thank You For The Music, followed by Voulez-Vous?. At which point the story turns to swedish erotica which is not appropriate to relate here.
Sing along :
If you love your dad,
Like I love your mom,
FUCK JAVASCRIPT
If your browser fails
To wear a condom
FUCK JAVASCRIPT
Oh, Stroustrup what have you done?
You knew it all along!
Tim Berners-Lee got it all wrong
Gopher, it was the one!
FUCK JAVASCRIPT
FUCK JAVASCRIPT
FUCK JAVASCRIPT
Forget it. They'll sell you an iPad instead of a Macbook Air. They make so much more money from the apps. They wont let their Mac business eat into their iGizmo business margins.
Please don't add a lot of extra eye candy or things to slow us down. I'm using a 2007 MacBook Pro and while it's plenty fast for what I need, I don't want to have to upgrade either.
You do realize that Apple makes money when you buy a new computer from them don't you? Which implies that your needs being met is a hindrance to their bottom line. You can count on them piling superbly designed crap candy fad-driven GUI enhancements for the next hundred years or so.
That is, until they find a way to make you rent your computer, at which point they will suddenly stop all creative process and make you languish in computer limbo for as long as they can.
how you pronounce Java in Canadia?
We just say Tim Horton.
Really, fuck it. I've had it with corporate-sponsored dick-fighting contest about which browser is the fastest. I really, really couldn't care any less. Features, openness, security, standards compliance, yeah. But If I want a fast app, I'll go native, thank you. Maybe I'm too old, but I've always thought HTML sucked as a programming paradigm. As an information distribution mechanism, sure. But for interactivity? Please. It's about time somebody called bullshit on this. Hell, a goddamn Visual Basic app from fifteen years ago kicked the butt of most modern web sites in usability, performance and ease of maintenance. The only thing that makes the web so attractive is the barrier to entry : free, nothing to install, immediate access to the average brains of millions. Just like TV. No thanks for dumbing it down to this. And now you wanna make it faster? Piss off. Go write real code that does something, not just another abstraction layer.
As frightening as a nuclear Venezuela is, I'd be more scared by a nuclear Vuvuzela.
I'd be willing to pay you 500$ if you can provide me with the actual plans for such a device. Consider it as a deterrent against my early-bird neighbour's lawnmower.
explain to me and people like me how "Zones" are different from "virtual machines?"
Zones share the same kernel. Much, much less overhead than full-blown VMs, both in setup and resource use. You can flavor your zones to be Linux or BSD compatible. You can give them their own (virtual or physical) network adapters. Think Apache Virtual Hosts, but at the OS layer. Or a midaway cross between a chroot and a VM. It's really nice stuff.
I wouldn't want my life or limbs to be at steak on this otherwise meaty issue.
Obviously, fungi-bacteria cellulose clothes is an acquired taste. It grows on you.
Car analogy : while Chrysler came up with the minivan first, but it doesn't mean they had the best implementation. Quite the opposite actually.
We had a french TV show here in Quebec called "Les citadins du rebut global" (loosely translated to "Citizens of the Global Trash"), which is part home building show, part junkyard wars. They have four seasons up to now, each in which they build a house in a different setting and from different found materials. It's quite a good show actually, it won a few TV industry prizes. The website also has a few interesting blurbs of video sprinkled in the "reportages" section.
http://www.citadins.tv/
In one season they have to build a house with only 15000$, in another they renovate an abandoned industrial space, in the third season they build a house supplied only with alternative energy sources.
I dont know if english subs are available for it, but the process of building a house being very graphic by nature I assume you could grasp quite a few concepts just by watching it. They used to sell the show in boxset format, but it might be obtained from "other sources" too. Just sayin'...
If the big questions (why?) are asked in good faith, as I think this one is, it is a great opportunity for people with answers to come out and educate the masses.
Rather than opposing the question, maybe you should put some work towards an answer, as I haven't seen any satisfying one in this thread yet.