Nope see no real picture here. Look man, I am manily a unix / linux user. And if they do this sort of things to cd's I buy one, basicaly my computer (which is my home entertainment unit) no longer can play the cd's that I bought to use on it. But I would not buy It if I knew that it would not play on my system, but they will not tell you what cd's will not work. And then thew wil use a windows only format wich is again useless to me. So they screw me out of cash (cd opened, can'r return) and they remove my right to use the proberity I have got.
The legal bs that I read is what they are using to screw the public.
Well I am not scared. As soon as the cd's are released with this nw format that can't be riped, someone will just make a program to rip them. And If I go to buy a cd and it has the new formats, I don't buy. Why give cash to people who want to take away the rights of people. Personaly, I have 2 copys of every cd I buy. One for the car and one for my cd changer in my room.
There are a ood few other services like Napster that would be free. Why would I go back t Napster when I have to pay. And especialy if they will only have a limited amout of music.
Dam it, now its really not worth me ripping front page 2002 off the net. I can break a license agreement once, but twice on the same piece of software, that's going way to far people.
Just going to have to stick with plane old notepad
Personally I have never bought a copy of Windows or any other micrsoft product. I will not support any company who is not wiling to create a good OS. But I have bought several Distro's of linux (RedHat, Suse, Mandrake...) and have bought software or it. I would rather support Linux who from a moral standpoint are not doing evil. And eil is the best way to describe all the crap microsoft has done. And XP, any method they use to try anti-piracy is going to fail. I am betting you will be able to download a cracked copy in no time.
Well I agree with you, but one thing, I am up here in Canada to A. I know that these places are not that easy to survive in, and had on kids, but 8 months is still not enough. The Canadian system is just way to easy on the offenders up here in my opinion. I keep up with h news and look at how any people up here are let out of jail so early compared to the sentence they get. Be honest it scares me that we do this
When I heard 8 months is all this kid was getting, the guy in the next desk had to ask what I was laughing about. I am surprised the kid did not get up in court and say something like
I can do that standing on my head
Now first off, he is not that good a cracker, he got caught. The news is making a big deal about this event at the time it occurred, but if he were good, they would be still hunting him down today.
Secondly, like the post in slashdot says, he got slapped. Personally I think if you are dumb enough to get caught, then you deserver more the a little slap. But when I heard that they expected that 8 months would be a message to all the script kiddies, I was laughing even harder. So here in an interesting thought then, who is the bigger joke here, the kid for getting caught, or the people thinking this will be a message to all script kiddies.
Well people are starting to calm down up here that the main even t is over. But there is huge concern about what has happened, how many will survive and what this might lead to. And if you believe in the profits, Nostradomus made a prediction, which so far is being interpreted as this event. Now remember, it's all in how you read it. For all we know, he might have just meant 2 brothers, not the 2 twin towers. Nut it still sounds scary.
My best goes out to everyone involved, and hope that there are many survivors found but I fear the worst, so best we could all hope for was quick deaths for those who did die.
Well I am incanada. I was watching the towers come down live. This is nuts, up here in the toronto area, the down town core has been cleared of peple. We up here are scared like those in the states. I am only 2 hr from NY so its not hard to see them hitting us here eather. Think about the CN tower. The world trade center is a icon line the CN tower is, so it is scary to think about this, but they may hit it. Just a messed thought going on around my programing firm
That this just looks so cool, and Best of all, It works on a nice computer program. I would love to have one and build software for it myself. Needless to say this is one nice toy, and would love to actually build one of these things for myself.
Well look at it this way, Microsoft makes contributions to bushes party. Any you
did not expect Bush to be on microsoft's corner. In this world the mega corps run
the government and Its all in who you know
Well I get to work for about 8:45 am. The people who come in at 8 am make fresh coffiee. But its cold by 8:45. But at 8:45 am, I am lucky I can walk SO I drink It aneway. After the First cup of coffiee, Then I make up a nice fresh pot of coffiee for the rest of the programers that get there at 9 am. So I have to agree, the first Cup is the worst, But hell, I can't do without it.
And since its only the first cup that is the bad one, the following 6 cups of coffiee go down great
preliminary survey of tech savvy online music enthusiasts recently conducted for the RIAA showed that nearly one out of two consumers surveyed downloaded in the past month and nearly 70 percent burned the music they downloaded
I got a thought on this, how many people in the survey actually told the truth. If you do an illegal action, do you tell the truth about it Hell no. So personally I got the funniest feeling that these numbers are not that accurate. And another point that puts this into a shady spot is that it's an online survey. So basically if you see it, you can vote. To me this leaves for a rather selective group of people to be getting statistics from. So personally, I say it's just the RIAA twisting things to suite there needs again.
Ok this has to be a dam low blow from the corporate world. We got Dmitri Sklyarov in jail for basically giving a presentation. Napster basically shut down from RIAA who believe that napster is lowering sails when all I can see is napster increasing sales. I bought more cd's when I was on napster then ever before. So this all goes to show that the corporate world will go as low as they need to go to make 10$.
You opinion isn't the law, thank god. He has been accused of breaking the law. He must stand trial for that. It's that simple
you make a point here, If someone has broken the law, they yes they go to trial. But man, what law has he broken. He should never have been arrested in the first place. He should be released because basically he gave a presentation that Adobe did not like. If anything, adobe should be taken to court for manipulating the law.
Now you also mentioned that this is a bad law. To be honest, the idea behind its sounds, basically to protect copy right material, but it needs some re wording so mega corps can't use t to there purposes.
I also liked a point that another in this thread made, I'd like to hear you say that again after taking a vacation in Afghanistan and being flogged for daring to shave or surf the web.
How would you feel, I would love to know man, you do nothing wrong in the country, but you get arrested for something you did in another country where it is legal. The US is again trying to set a world standard. If I want to try drugs legally, I am headed over to Amsterdam; What the US is saying here is that we don't have a law saying drugs are legal, so we will arrest you for what you did out side of our jurisdiction. It's the same idea if this happened. And to be honest, this scares the hell out of me, I am in Canada but my work sometimes takes me to the states to do some coding. If they do it to this guy, what's stopping them from doing the same to me?
Ok, every article on the Intel Pentium 4 has so far shown that my expectations of the p4 are way off. I was able to get the original specs for the chip, and I must admit, I was drooling all over the paper. Things like 512k first level cash and things of that nature. Then I read the new specs on the p4 when it is released, where is this chip I drooled over. Well it dose not exist, they cut and chopped all the good stuff out. Now an Athlon 1.3 ghz is running just under a p4 in most bench marks when the p4 is running at 1.7 ghz. With a 400 mhz difference, the p4 should be whooping the Athlon for fun. But as any informed person knows, mhz dose not give a accurate idea of how fast the chip truly is. Now what gets me is who actually decided to cut all the good things out of this chip they wanted to create. Well from what I have read (I believe I found some articles through SlashDot, but am not fully sure and would love clarification on where this info would be) the engineers did not cut out the good stuff. It was the marketing and accounting departments. So we are getting business drones (we are Intel, you will be assimilated) deciding the design of Pentiums chips. This is completely wrong to let departments that do not really understand the chips except that the idea to them "BIGGER IS BETTER".
This is no way to properly run a business, and now with amd's big pushes with their Athlon chip, they are being hit hard. With amd biting Intel's heals and making major headway, you would think Intel would wake up and smell the coffee( mmmm coffee). But they are still just designing rather non-innovative chips that are not really putting up a big fight against amd's Athlons. The p4 are still considered expensive, and still are being soled mainly with the rambus (bs chips) ram.
I am actually hoping that amd will push there Athlons to higher ghz speeds soon, so that we can see a true 1.7 ghz Athlon vs. p4 1.7 ghz. Or say at that time 2 ghz vs. 2 ghz battle. That might be able to wake up Intel. But we have to wait and see. What I really would like to happen is to see a real processor war. At this point, there is only Intel getting beaten down bit by bit in the 32-bit pc market. But I guess we will have to wait and see.
Why do I feel that he has been jailed wrongly? Lets see, gives presentation, and is arrested. I have downloaded and read his presentation, he dose not five out his program and only explains the basics of how it is done in his speech. Be honest, with this, we get to learn that there is work needing to be done in the e book side of things. But adobe dose not want to do work, they rather arrest the people who know how to hack their sough and pretend it did not happen. Any real court is going to overturn this anyway, so adobe is wasting time in this fruitless effort.
Basically Adobe is bending the law much like Microsoft has done in the past to suite them selves. So why should he be released you ask, because he did nothing wrong but try and open the worlds eyes to the point that e books are not secure. If anything adobe should be charged with manipulating the law or something for this sort of behavior. But like we all know, they will get off scoot free.
People have asked me why I do not want to work in the states instead of Canada. Well it's the bs like this that I keep seeing in the states that keep me out of there. I don't feel like going to jail because I have been asked to give a presentation.
think about it, Almost all microsoft products have been delayed due to one reason or another. Now assuming that the injunction happens Microsoft has a reason why XP is delayed (and they can continue to get rid of last minute bugs!) while still saving their image saying that "We were delayed because of the court injunction".
"still saving their image", I don't they ever had a good image to save anewat man. >:)=
Slashdot Mirror
Nope see no real picture here. Look man, I am manily a unix / linux user. And if they do this sort of things to cd's I buy one, basicaly my computer (which is my home entertainment unit) no longer can play the cd's that I bought to use on it. But I would not buy It if I knew that it would not play on my system, but they will not tell you what cd's will not work. And then thew wil use a windows only format wich is again useless to me. So they screw me out of cash (cd opened, can'r return) and they remove my right to use the proberity I have got.
The legal bs that I read is what they are using to screw the public.
my 2 cents plus 2 more
Well I am not scared. As soon as the cd's are released with this nw format that can't be riped, someone will just make a program to rip them. And If I go to buy a cd and it has the new formats, I don't buy. Why give cash to people who want to take away the rights of people. Personaly, I have 2 copys of every cd I buy. One for the car and one for my cd changer in my room.
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There are a ood few other services like Napster that would be free. Why would I go back t Napster when I have to pay. And especialy if they will only have a limited amout of music.
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Dam it, now its really not worth me ripping front page 2002 off the net. I can break a license agreement once, but twice on the same piece of software, that's going way to far people.
Just going to have to stick with plane old notepad
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Personally I have never bought a copy of Windows or any other micrsoft product. I will not support any company who is not wiling to create a good OS. But I have bought several Distro's of linux (RedHat, Suse, Mandrake ...) and have bought software or it. I would rather support Linux who from a moral standpoint are not doing evil. And eil is the best way to describe all the crap microsoft has done. And XP, any method they use to try anti-piracy is going to fail. I am betting you will be able to download a cracked copy in no time.
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See, this s just one more thing that is leading to the eventual control of the world my mcrosoft. Do what we do, use our software. >:)=
personally I will never use frontpage, Just hope they don't extend this license to notepad >:)=.
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More of my banking done through something designed by microsoft, now that's a scary thought
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Well I agree with you, but one thing, I am up here in Canada to A. I know that these places are not that easy to survive in, and had on kids, but 8 months is still not enough. The Canadian system is just way to easy on the offenders up here in my opinion. I keep up with h news and look at how any people up here are let out of jail so early compared to the sentence they get. Be honest it scares me that we do this
my 2 cents plus 2 more
When I heard 8 months is all this kid was getting, the guy in the next desk had to ask what I was laughing about. I am surprised the kid did not get up in court and say something like
I can do that standing on my head
Now first off, he is not that good a cracker, he got caught. The news is making a big deal about this event at the time it occurred, but if he were good, they would be still hunting him down today.
Secondly, like the post in slashdot says, he got slapped. Personally I think if you are dumb enough to get caught, then you deserver more the a little slap. But when I heard that they expected that 8 months would be a message to all the script kiddies, I was laughing even harder. So here in an interesting thought then, who is the bigger joke here, the kid for getting caught, or the people thinking this will be a message to all script kiddies.
my 2 cents plus 2 more
Well what if they killed the pilots and took the plane in themselves. To keep the thing in the air is easy. And they did not plan to land
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Well people are starting to calm down up here that the main even t is over. But there is huge concern about what has happened, how many will survive and what this might lead to. And if you believe in the profits, Nostradomus made a prediction, which so far is being interpreted as this event. Now remember, it's all in how you read it. For all we know, he might have just meant 2 brothers, not the 2 twin towers. Nut it still sounds scary.
My best goes out to everyone involved, and hope that there are many survivors found but I fear the worst, so best we could all hope for was quick deaths for those who did die.
my 2 cents plus 2 more, but a sad 2 cents it is
Well I am incanada. I was watching the towers come down live. This is nuts, up here in the toronto area, the down town core has been cleared of peple. We up here are scared like those in the states. I am only 2 hr from NY so its not hard to see them hitting us here eather. Think about the CN tower. The world trade center is a icon line the CN tower is, so it is scary to think about this, but they may hit it. Just a messed thought going on around my programing firm
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That this just looks so cool, and Best of all, It works on a nice computer program. I would love to have one and build software for it myself. Needless to say this is one nice toy, and would love to actually build one of these things for myself.
my 2 cents plus 2 more
Well look at it this way, Microsoft makes contributions to bushes party. Any you
did not expect Bush to be on microsoft's corner. In this world the mega corps run
the government and Its all in who you know
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For the beautiful women.
Well I get to work for about 8:45 am. The people who come in at 8 am make fresh coffiee. But its cold by 8:45. But at 8:45 am, I am lucky I can walk SO I drink It aneway. After the First cup of coffiee, Then I make up a nice fresh pot of coffiee for the rest of the programers that get there at 9 am. So I have to agree, the first Cup is the worst, But hell, I can't do without it.
And since its only the first cup that is the bad one, the following 6 cups of coffiee go down great
my 2 cents plus 2 more
preliminary survey of tech savvy online music enthusiasts recently conducted for the RIAA showed that nearly one out of two consumers surveyed downloaded in the past month and nearly 70 percent burned the music they downloaded
I got a thought on this, how many people in the survey actually told the truth. If you do an illegal action, do you tell the truth about it Hell no. So personally I got the funniest feeling that these numbers are not that accurate. And another point that puts this into a shady spot is that it's an online survey. So basically if you see it, you can vote. To me this leaves for a rather selective group of people to be getting statistics from. So personally, I say it's just the RIAA twisting things to suite there needs again.
My 2 cents plus 2 more
Ok this has to be a dam low blow from the corporate world. We got Dmitri Sklyarov in jail for basically giving a presentation. Napster basically shut down from RIAA who believe that napster is lowering sails when all I can see is napster increasing sales. I bought more cd's when I was on napster then ever before. So this all goes to show that the corporate world will go as low as they need to go to make 10$.
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Man, just drop in a nice 8 cylinder 350 hp engine in there, and that thing would be flying down the road. >:)=
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You opinion isn't the law, thank god. He has been accused of breaking the law. He must stand trial for that. It's that simple
you make a point here, If someone has broken the law, they yes they go to trial. But man, what law has he broken. He should never have been arrested in the first place. He should be released because basically he gave a presentation that Adobe did not like. If anything, adobe should be taken to court for manipulating the law.
Now you also mentioned that this is a bad law. To be honest, the idea behind its sounds, basically to protect copy right material, but it needs some re wording so mega corps can't use t to there purposes.
I also liked a point that another in this thread made, I'd like to hear you say that again after taking a vacation in Afghanistan and being flogged for daring to shave or surf the web.
How would you feel, I would love to know man, you do nothing wrong in the country, but you get arrested for something you did in another country where it is legal. The US is again trying to set a world standard. If I want to try drugs legally, I am headed over to Amsterdam; What the US is saying here is that we don't have a law saying drugs are legal, so we will arrest you for what you did out side of our jurisdiction. It's the same idea if this happened. And to be honest, this scares the hell out of me, I am in Canada but my work sometimes takes me to the states to do some coding. If they do it to this guy, what's stopping them from doing the same to me?
My 2 cents plus 2 more challenging the bad law.
Attack of the killer tomato's
Aliens attack
ATTACK OF PUPPET PEOPLE
Attack of the 50 Foot Woman
Attack of the Clones
Dam, this title makes the movie sound like a 1950's horrer flick. >:)=
just hope that the graphics are a lot better the the 50's flicks
>:)=
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Ok, every article on the Intel Pentium 4 has so far shown that my expectations of the p4 are way off. I was able to get the original specs for the chip, and I must admit, I was drooling all over the paper. Things like 512k first level cash and things of that nature. Then I read the new specs on the p4 when it is released, where is this chip I drooled over. Well it dose not exist, they cut and chopped all the good stuff out. Now an Athlon 1.3 ghz is running just under a p4 in most bench marks when the p4 is running at 1.7 ghz. With a 400 mhz difference, the p4 should be whooping the Athlon for fun. But as any informed person knows, mhz dose not give a accurate idea of how fast the chip truly is. Now what gets me is who actually decided to cut all the good things out of this chip they wanted to create. Well from what I have read (I believe I found some articles through SlashDot, but am not fully sure and would love clarification on where this info would be) the engineers did not cut out the good stuff. It was the marketing and accounting departments. So we are getting business drones (we are Intel, you will be assimilated) deciding the design of Pentiums chips. This is completely wrong to let departments that do not really understand the chips except that the idea to them "BIGGER IS BETTER".
This is no way to properly run a business, and now with amd's big pushes with their Athlon chip, they are being hit hard. With amd biting Intel's heals and making major headway, you would think Intel would wake up and smell the coffee( mmmm coffee). But they are still just designing rather non-innovative chips that are not really putting up a big fight against amd's Athlons. The p4 are still considered expensive, and still are being soled mainly with the rambus (bs chips) ram.
I am actually hoping that amd will push there Athlons to higher ghz speeds soon, so that we can see a true 1.7 ghz Athlon vs. p4 1.7 ghz. Or say at that time 2 ghz vs. 2 ghz battle. That might be able to wake up Intel. But we have to wait and see. What I really would like to happen is to see a real processor war. At this point, there is only Intel getting beaten down bit by bit in the 32-bit pc market. But I guess we will have to wait and see.
My 2 cents plus 2 more
Why do I feel that he has been jailed wrongly? Lets see, gives presentation, and is arrested. I have downloaded and read his presentation, he dose not five out his program and only explains the basics of how it is done in his speech. Be honest, with this, we get to learn that there is work needing to be done in the e book side of things. But adobe dose not want to do work, they rather arrest the people who know how to hack their sough and pretend it did not happen. Any real court is going to overturn this anyway, so adobe is wasting time in this fruitless effort.
Basically Adobe is bending the law much like Microsoft has done in the past to suite them selves. So why should he be released you ask, because he did nothing wrong but try and open the worlds eyes to the point that e books are not secure. If anything adobe should be charged with manipulating the law or something for this sort of behavior. But like we all know, they will get off scoot free.
People have asked me why I do not want to work in the states instead of Canada. Well it's the bs like this that I keep seeing in the states that keep me out of there. I don't feel like going to jail because I have been asked to give a presentation.
My 2 cents plus 2 more
This looks like a dam interesting section but where is the darn artical to read
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think about it, Almost all microsoft products have been delayed due to one reason or another. Now assuming that the injunction happens Microsoft has a reason why XP is delayed (and they can continue to get rid of last minute bugs!) while still saving their image saying that "We were delayed because of the court injunction".
"still saving their image", I don't they ever had a good image to save anewat man. >:)=
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