You know it seems as if we humans would like to blame everything else for our lack of basic parenting skills. Why can't these people face it that the are failing as parents? No before you all go TROLL on me I understand that these days both parents must work, they are stressed out, they didn't ask for it blah blah blah. You know there is a way to prevent having kids-condoms, or abstinence. There are cons to procreation.
The need for standards is not new to any of us. But why does this argument come upon us-again. It seems that when ever some person get upset at Linux the first thing they cry about is standardization. Why must Linux conform to the masses. Granted from a business prospect adaptation of the consumer needs should increase profits, but Linux is not about profits-companies are.
This being said I can understand that some one using Gnome might want a program available that is written for KDE but cant find it. I understand your concerns but that is the nature of the beast. I don't want to force anyone to write only for KDE or only for Gnome, both are great WM's but have different ideas on how WM's should be. If businesses really gave a stinky mess about this they would hire programmers to code the programs they need. If people want certain app's then they should try to make them or just find something else.
Too many people expect software to fulfill their needs, what about the needs of the programmer? What about the needs of everyone else, I believe this whole capitalistic thing has infected it's way into open source as well. Linux is not meant to Service the needs of everyone and neither is Windows, if MS gave a hoot about my freakin needs I wouldn't be plagued by countless holes on my Win Boxen!
First of all great question! I'm glad to see such an issue brought up.
Second this is indeed a way Linux could come ahead, but it can also alienate those people with these needs. I mean this in a sense if Linux would be the only OS to recognize the needs of people with poor vision and a certain job only uses Windows OSs where does that leave the user? Any how it is about time that computers are a little more friendly. Geeks and users come in all sizes and shapes with there own unique issues.
But...America has grown to the point of its capatilistic hump that it must out source much of the work. That's why Democracy and Capitalism compliment and hurt each other. OF course so does having a republic of only two truly recognized parties. I would not expect the common American to understand what a parliament is without living with one.
It also means that while developer positions are harder to come by, more jobs in other sectors will be created to satisfy the increased revenue IBM has available.
I'm sorry but I do not see this happening. I see the pockets a few individuals getting bigger but that's about it. Just like when Nike moved out of America. These developers will be paid less then they would in America, so where is the justice in this? If America keeps moving its business out side they will burn out like Spain did after they imported all that gold!
Just cause you believe that you've been wronged doesn't mean you should wrong others.
What the hell are you thinking? Morals? How dare you bring this into the picture when SCO is trying to get Millions of dollars in ANY way it can. Shame on you.
They claim that some of their code made its way into the Linux Kernel, so now they're packaging the entire kernel, making it only available in bianry form and selling it?!?
I hope this does not happen! If it is possible to get away with this I would imagine MS would have a field day.
then they have relased whatever code might be in there under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
My question then would be; Does the American courts recognize the GPL? I mean it great and people have to follow it in theory, but how strong will the GPL hold up in court? How many are familiar with it? Better yet how many can be bought off on it?
Talk about compensation. Hell for that money I would buy a better car, or a computer system! Why in the hell do I need someone to hear me two miles away?
- Refunding of the cost occured during the agreement period.
So you are telling M$ that you want to be reimbursed for your work? Technically you are reverse engineering the product. So according to current laws you want to be reimbursed for acting illegally?
I'm just saying that even though we don't like the laws, we are still accountable for them. So they acted willingly to break the laws and then want rights to the design and money?!?!?!
I am all for the advancement of Linux, but come on people.
Excuse me here but at least in America LCD prices might be cheap but in the rest of the world they are still expensive. Agreed that saving in desk space, heat, and eye strain can not be ignored, but with a price difference if around $200 one can yet forgo the LCD option.
Mail (gpg), News groups, disables Java, and disabled pop-ups. All for free with a set future. Might not have perfact Flash intagration but who cares, Flash wastes time and bandwidth.
What wont Word documents read? Do I have to abuse my Word documents to get them to read?
"you just need to fire your existing staff, or train them in python and spend $$$s to re-code."
Do you work for M$ Office department? Such narrow minded arguments are usualy reserved for them.
"We need to be complaint to survive."
Bullshit, I don't need to be complaint. Do they have a patent on how an office suit should work-no. Can OO do what I want-yes. Because I like it does it mean everyone has to use it-no.
I can't help it. I'm sick of these articles putting linux up against Windows. I'm sick of Windows as being the one thing that sets the standards. I know that's my own tough luck but it bytes. I don't want my Open Office to use VB scripting, look at the damages VB has done. I don't wan't my desktop to look like the new XP.
Scientists also said that transporting hydrogen from fossil fuel plants to automobile filling stations will be more difficult than anyone has anticipated.
Why, because there might me a greater risk of something blowing up? Hello-Hindenburg in the 21st century.
This is what I love to see. The hardware hackers. Sure it goes above the old Amiga hacks, but is great to see the creative mind put to use. Now all we nee is for someone to do a C=128D and use a bootable C=128 emulator like the Knoppix-thing.;-)
Your right, it_was_based on Christianity, now you can't pray in school, why is that? We always here of arguments about separation of Church and State, why is that? Are our senators as religious as their governmental leaders?
No Egyptâ(TM)s government officials are more religious than our government system combined.
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You know it seems as if we humans would like to blame everything else for our lack of basic parenting skills. Why can't these people face it that the are failing as parents? No before you all go TROLL on me I understand that these days both parents must work, they are stressed out, they didn't ask for it blah blah blah. You know there is a way to prevent having kids-condoms, or abstinence. There are cons to procreation.
I would see SCO bidding thier version of Linux for Free to lure the government into a crappy deal. And then try to pull this shit again.
The need for standards is not new to any of us. But why does this argument come upon us-again. It seems that when ever some person get upset at Linux the first thing they cry about is standardization. Why must Linux conform to the masses. Granted from a business prospect adaptation of the consumer needs should increase profits, but Linux is not about profits-companies are.
This being said I can understand that some one using Gnome might want a program available that is written for KDE but cant find it. I understand your concerns but that is the nature of the beast. I don't want to force anyone to write only for KDE or only for Gnome, both are great WM's but have different ideas on how WM's should be. If businesses really gave a stinky mess about this they would hire programmers to code the programs they need. If people want certain app's then they should try to make them or just find something else.
Too many people expect software to fulfill their needs, what about the needs of the programmer? What about the needs of everyone else, I believe this whole capitalistic thing has infected it's way into open source as well. Linux is not meant to Service the needs of everyone and neither is Windows, if MS gave a hoot about my freakin needs I wouldn't be plagued by countless holes on my Win Boxen!
First of all great question! I'm glad to see such an issue brought up.
Second this is indeed a way Linux could come ahead, but it can also alienate those people with these needs. I mean this in a sense if Linux would be the only OS to recognize the needs of people with poor vision and a certain job only uses Windows OSs where does that leave the user? Any how it is about time that computers are a little more friendly. Geeks and users come in all sizes and shapes with there own unique issues.
And if you vote for me....
But...America has grown to the point of its capatilistic hump that it must out source much of the work. That's why Democracy and Capitalism compliment and hurt each other. OF course so does having a republic of only two truly recognized parties. I would not expect the common American to understand what a parliament is without living with one.
e seen it all in the Dark Ages, the Middle ages, and even now.
Like when we isolated the Japanese during WWII, the hindering of Blacks, and even now day's Arabs.
This hunt was born out of their inadequacies, and the blunder only gets bigger.
It seems as the further technology grows the stupider the ones with money get. Has any one done a paper for this relationship?
It also means that while developer positions are harder to come by, more jobs in other sectors will be created to satisfy the increased revenue IBM has available.
I'm sorry but I do not see this happening. I see the pockets a few individuals getting bigger but that's about it. Just like when Nike moved out of America. These developers will be paid less then they would in America, so where is the justice in this? If America keeps moving its business out side they will burn out like Spain did after they imported all that gold!
Just cause you believe that you've been wronged doesn't mean you should wrong others.
What the hell are you thinking? Morals? How dare you bring this into the picture when SCO is trying to get Millions of dollars in ANY way it can. Shame on you.
They claim that some of their code made its way into the Linux Kernel, so now they're packaging the entire kernel, making it only available in bianry form and selling it?!?
I hope this does not happen! If it is possible to get away with this I would imagine MS would have a field day.
then they have relased whatever code might be in there under the terms of the GNU General Public License.
My question then would be; Does the American courts recognize the GPL? I mean it great and people have to follow it in theory, but how strong will the GPL hold up in court? How many are familiar with it? Better yet how many can be bought off on it?
Talk about compensation. Hell for that money I would buy a better car, or a computer system! Why in the hell do I need someone to hear me two miles away?
- Refunding of the cost occured during the agreement period.
So you are telling M$ that you want to be reimbursed for your work? Technically you are reverse engineering the product. So according to current laws you want to be reimbursed for acting illegally?
I'm just saying that even though we don't like the laws, we are still accountable for them. So they acted willingly to break the laws and then want rights to the design and money?!?!?!
I am all for the advancement of Linux, but come on people.
Excuse me here but at least in America LCD prices might be cheap but in the rest of the world they are still expensive. Agreed that saving in desk space, heat, and eye strain can not be ignored, but with a price difference if around $200 one can yet forgo the LCD option.
Bite me.
Screw you.
F|_|ck Yo|_|.
Better yet brb, lol, kma?
Mail (gpg), News groups, disables Java, and disabled pop-ups. All for free with a set future. Might not have perfact Flash intagration but who cares, Flash wastes time and bandwidth.
Unless all you have are oggs.
"All your Word documents wont read."
What wont Word documents read? Do I have to abuse my Word documents to get them to read?
"you just need to fire your existing staff, or train them in python and spend $$$s to re-code."
Do you work for M$ Office department? Such narrow minded arguments are usualy reserved for them.
"We need to be complaint to survive."
Bullshit, I don't need to be complaint. Do they have a patent on how an office suit should work-no. Can OO do what I want-yes. Because I like it does it mean everyone has to use it-no.
"What'll you say?"
Come back when you have a real argument.
"...claims Nextel obtained prototypes..."
How did they get them? Was it an upset employee, did they put some one in the work force to steal the prototypes?
So could Nextel be sued for receiving stolen property?
I can't help it. I'm sick of these articles putting linux up against Windows. I'm sick of Windows as being the one thing that sets the standards. I know that's my own tough luck but it bytes. I don't want my Open Office to use VB scripting, look at the damages VB has done. I don't wan't my desktop to look like the new XP.
By his statement:
free code, yes. free labor, no.
Scientists also said that transporting hydrogen from fossil fuel plants to automobile filling stations will be more difficult than anyone has anticipated.
Why, because there might me a greater risk of something blowing up? Hello-Hindenburg in the 21st century.
(note this is not meant to be a flame, just a little humor)
/. land when you have to "tell" the moderaters that a post is ment to be funny-not flame.
It is a sad day in
This is what I love to see. The hardware hackers. Sure it goes above the old Amiga hacks, but is great to see the creative mind put to use. Now all we nee is for someone to do a C=128D and use a bootable C=128 emulator like the Knoppix-thing. ;-)
do you not see how your uneducated fear of the unknown holds us back?
Oh and I suppose comparing a fictional book with real life is the best example?
Your right, it_was_based on Christianity, now you can't pray in school, why is that?
We always here of arguments about separation of Church and State, why is that? Are our senators as religious as their governmental leaders?
No Egyptâ(TM)s government officials are more religious than our government system combined.