You'd be surprised. I'd guess they are similar to the Sun's of the same speed etc. 5-6k for a workstation with a good fx card. I hardly see the reason to go for anything outside of Windows on Intel, Linux on Intel or Mac OS on PPC at this point. You can get one hell of a beowulf (sp?) cluster of linux machines for a very good price. I'd bet there is more value in hiring a good software engineer than getting a more expensive machine. I guess it all depends on your need.
They don't even give you a listing of prices on their site. You have to call resellers. Why the hell would I want to deal with a reseller instead of the company itself? Sun has a much better model.
Someone else linked to them the other day on slashdot and I was very impressed. Especially the 17" one for $1700 !!! That's only $300 more than I paid for my 900MHz iBook 12.1"!!!!
Wrong link, your right. However it still isn't a 7 pound difference it's 3.1 pounds and I'd much rather save $1000 get a better graphics card, be able to play games, have a numberpad built in (if you get this one and it's only 9.5 lbs for a 2.7 pound difference) and have both UNIX (via linux) and Windows (if you so desire). OS X isn't worth $1000 and the aluminum transfers heat better and there are no fans to cool it so it gets hotter than hell (nothing compared to the 12" AlBook though). My iBook is cool and smooth.
I guess there is a level of cost I'm not willing to float, 50% more for a slower apple doesn't fit my budget. I don't use firewire at all (I will eventually with an iPod but it works via usb as well and the 17" laptops come with Firewire 400, hell my 2 year old dell has firewire 400 so what's the point?), I don't have an OC-3 to the house with a gigabit backbone, I don't work in the dark and I can touch type (which is why i prefer the point-stick to the track pads), weight means nothing in the real world (ever worked with a consultant that didn't have 15 lbs of crap crammed into that laptop case carrying the 3 lb laptop?), I only connect at 10mbit through my router (DSL & Cable) so Airport extreme is just marketing (I don't frequently transfer more than 1/2GB between computers and 10mbit is fine for that), etc, etc, etc...
Apple is great but the only real difference is Aqua versus Gnome/KDE since I can run both Windows and Linux on the PC where as only Unix variants are available for the Macs.
The funny thing is I bought my first mac about 1 1/2 years ago and got it because of OS X. It was still a buggy slow POS so I started playing around with OS 9 (also buggy but significantly faster) and found I liked the discontinued OS better. Kind of funny really.
I have a 12" (XGA 1024x768) iBook for traveling light, a 15.4" (SXGA 1400x1050) Inspiron 8100 for windows linux games consulting (PC related) work and I'll be getting either an Apple 17" or a good PC 17" laptop this year for games/coding etc. 99% of my coding is server based so my laptop platform doesn't matter and I prefer apple. However since the 17" AlBook is $3299+TAX and this one is $2179+TAX It's not too difficult of a decision (not to mention the stupid fx card in the apple, although the 32MB in the toshiba is sad as well).
It looks like they caught and surpassed apple in this case. It has a fast processor, a good graphics card and it's $1000 cheaper. I guess apple is getting a premium after all (mind you I own 3 apples and I'm buying a G5 when they ship).
Maybe that's just because I learned to use Oracle PL/SQL first and had to learn Transact SQL at my subsequent jobs. I still prefer PL/SQL. Hell it makes me look better too when our parent company needs help extracting data for our office and they can call me to write them a stored procedure and the other developers cannot (they also call me for linux/solaris help and we *technically* are a MS only shop).
At least my CIO doesn't have his head up his ass like the rest of the C*Os do.
There are a lot of American Indians here
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But our state is different than most (New Mexico and Arizona have a lot as well). Oh and it's not Dagos it's Degos and they aren't latin american they are italian (dego and wop ~ with out papers) were a few of the terms used (I am italian decent).
I don't agree with what happened to the American Indian populations when North/Central/South America was settled by the europeans. However if you are so naive to assume that they could exist in a world where everyone would just leave them alone because they were there first, you don't understand how the world works. Social Darwinism is always at play. It's not right or wrong, it's nature. Only the strongest and quickest to adapt survive (and those that latch on and follow the leaders). It's all just timing and luck anyway. I love the American Indian people, they have been royally screwed. Unfortunately to survive in todays society the skills are sorely lacking based on their social support systems and their norms/mores.
I downloaded it yesterday so I must have been lucky. I needed it for eclipse. BTW where the hell is good free online documentation on how the hell to use eclipse, swt, etc.?
Sniper camp for shooting abortion doctors, crusading through asia, middle east, etc..., hitting pedestrians then the fun of trying to cover it up, don't forget the pedofile aspect of molesting children.
Slashdot Mirror
or something like that.
Oh wait, eBay wouldn't sell stolen items?
FX == graphics
Give me beer or give me hot women.
Upgrade
Unfortunately this is the easiest path. BTW What games? I play NWN on my iBook 900 w/32MB FX card and it runs great, not to mention Quake III.
It may be easy for him but purchasing 256 Xeons is out of my price range. Not to mention the other stuff that goes into it.
of living in the middle of nowhere.
Oklahoma, a great place to avoid tidal waves. Just ignore the rednecks and tornados (which hit every year).
Midwestern living, it cannot be beat.
You'd be surprised. I'd guess they are similar to the Sun's of the same speed etc. 5-6k for a workstation with a good fx card. I hardly see the reason to go for anything outside of Windows on Intel, Linux on Intel or Mac OS on PPC at this point. You can get one hell of a beowulf (sp?) cluster of linux machines for a very good price. I'd bet there is more value in hiring a good software engineer than getting a more expensive machine. I guess it all depends on your need.
They don't even give you a listing of prices on their site. You have to call resellers. Why the hell would I want to deal with a reseller instead of the company itself? Sun has a much better model.
Very sweet stuff at cheap prices.
Power Notebooks
Someone else linked to them the other day on slashdot and I was very impressed. Especially the 17" one for $1700 !!! That's only $300 more than I paid for my 900MHz iBook 12.1"!!!!
they get a damn OS that is built specifically for a 64bit processor instead of a 32bit patched. It's kind of like running DOS on a Pentium, pointless.
Notepad is Windows and Windows is Notepad.
Notepad/Windows XP (at least that's what I call it).
Just say no to Republicans.
Don't make that mistake again, you might get sued!
Wrong link, your right. However it still isn't a 7 pound difference it's 3.1 pounds and I'd much rather save $1000 get a better graphics card, be able to play games, have a numberpad built in (if you get this one and it's only 9.5 lbs for a 2.7 pound difference) and have both UNIX (via linux) and Windows (if you so desire). OS X isn't worth $1000 and the aluminum transfers heat better and there are no fans to cool it so it gets hotter than hell (nothing compared to the 12" AlBook though). My iBook is cool and smooth.
Maybe you need to exercise. How much does the case weigh? How about all the other things outside the laptop (papers, cds, books, etc).
Plus I'm not sure where you get your fuzzy math but the 17" powerbook is 6.8 lbs and the 17" toshiba is 7.8 lbs [PDF].
If 1 pound is worth $1000 maybe you should invest in a gym.
I guess there is a level of cost I'm not willing to float, 50% more for a slower apple doesn't fit my budget. I don't use firewire at all (I will eventually with an iPod but it works via usb as well and the 17" laptops come with Firewire 400, hell my 2 year old dell has firewire 400 so what's the point?), I don't have an OC-3 to the house with a gigabit backbone, I don't work in the dark and I can touch type (which is why i prefer the point-stick to the track pads), weight means nothing in the real world (ever worked with a consultant that didn't have 15 lbs of crap crammed into that laptop case carrying the 3 lb laptop?), I only connect at 10mbit through my router (DSL & Cable) so Airport extreme is just marketing (I don't frequently transfer more than 1/2GB between computers and 10mbit is fine for that), etc, etc, etc...
Apple is great but the only real difference is Aqua versus Gnome/KDE since I can run both Windows and Linux on the PC where as only Unix variants are available for the Macs.
The funny thing is I bought my first mac about 1 1/2 years ago and got it because of OS X. It was still a buggy slow POS so I started playing around with OS 9 (also buggy but significantly faster) and found I liked the discontinued OS better. Kind of funny really.
I have a 12" (XGA 1024x768) iBook for traveling light, a 15.4" (SXGA 1400x1050) Inspiron 8100 for windows linux games consulting (PC related) work and I'll be getting either an Apple 17" or a good PC 17" laptop this year for games/coding etc. 99% of my coding is server based so my laptop platform doesn't matter and I prefer apple. However since the 17" AlBook is $3299+TAX and this one is $2179+TAX It's not too difficult of a decision (not to mention the stupid fx card in the apple, although the 32MB in the toshiba is sad as well).
PDF of the specs
It looks like they caught and surpassed apple in this case. It has a fast processor, a good graphics card and it's $1000 cheaper. I guess apple is getting a premium after all (mind you I own 3 apples and I'm buying a G5 when they ship).
Slackware 3.3! I run it on a 486/25 w/8MB RAM and 125MB HD. XWindows and all.
until then.
Does anyone do research?
Maybe that's just because I learned to use Oracle PL/SQL first and had to learn Transact SQL at my subsequent jobs. I still prefer PL/SQL. Hell it makes me look better too when our parent company needs help extracting data for our office and they can call me to write them a stored procedure and the other developers cannot (they also call me for linux/solaris help and we *technically* are a MS only shop).
At least my CIO doesn't have his head up his ass like the rest of the C*Os do.
But our state is different than most (New Mexico and Arizona have a lot as well). Oh and it's not Dagos it's Degos and they aren't latin american they are italian (dego and wop ~ with out papers) were a few of the terms used (I am italian decent).
I don't agree with what happened to the American Indian populations when North/Central/South America was settled by the europeans. However if you are so naive to assume that they could exist in a world where everyone would just leave them alone because they were there first, you don't understand how the world works. Social Darwinism is always at play. It's not right or wrong, it's nature. Only the strongest and quickest to adapt survive (and those that latch on and follow the leaders). It's all just timing and luck anyway. I love the American Indian people, they have been royally screwed. Unfortunately to survive in todays society the skills are sorely lacking based on their social support systems and their norms/mores.
I downloaded it yesterday so I must have been lucky. I needed it for eclipse. BTW where the hell is good free online documentation on how the hell to use eclipse, swt, etc.?
Sniper camp for shooting abortion doctors, crusading through asia, middle east, etc..., hitting pedestrians then the fun of trying to cover it up, don't forget the pedofile aspect of molesting children.
This is a game that will appeal to everyone!
MS Windows 2000 and run it on a 64 bit processor?
I guess you'll have to pull your head out of your ass before you start posting comments.