why only 8X?! I want at least 32X! now!
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AGP4X vs. AGP8X
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Damn it, yet again we see this small-steps cashing scheme rolling. You know, it all started with that "640Kb is enough for anything" when somebody wasn't laughing but thinking about how to maximize income.
He thought: "let's not aim for the very best we can imagine or produce.. instead, upgrade little bit at a time here and there and make customers think they get something special when "4X" becomes "8X", etc."
I mean don't they have resources for more than meager 8X, I understand that making things parallel is a bit costly but still, they could even try to make something significant instead of this.. this.. yuk!
It's conspiracy I say! Large manufacturers are the only ones who could make something like AGP32X happen but they don't want to give their bleeding edge knowhow out, they want to keep some moving space if something unexpected happen like unknown little companies releasing something revolutionary.
I was just installing various things to my win2k box and it still wants rebooting when:
Nero was installed,
when VIA 4in1 was installed,
when ATI catalyst display drivers were installed,
when I changed pagefile's size,
when I changed access mode for IDE device from PIO to UDMA...
Where in the hell was your school to have that kind of draconian laws?! Make a fun joke and off to the principals office you go, sheesh... I hope you moved far and away from there, where ever it was, after graduation.
Digital cameras now record about 4M pixels but there's really no upper limit on how much is needed since somebody somewhere will want to enlarge their pics and zoom into details.. remember Blade Runner?
Also, when we get wall-sized TV-screens we'll want video feed at 40K x 30K rez at 100 full refreshes/sec. Then you can think again how much that kind of material can 1 exabyte store.
OMG, it just dawned to me that compressed and/or encrypted transmissions get close to being random data. How are aliens supposed to notice us if all they see are almost random transmissions?
..as can be seen from parent post. So why would ETs want to know us? To find inferior civilizations that have nothing new knowledge to give and even if we'd have something it'd be easier to spy those out and not make contact.
What joy much less profit would ETIs get by making contact with us? I can't find one single reason why they should. Except maybe one: what different ways there exist to solve and represent certain problems, like grand unified theory or if our version of general relativity is more accurate or otherwise useable, etc. To keep us pursuing our own goals and not consentrating on alien study, it'd be important for them to stay unnoticed.
How are you going to "set up your system" when it's Microf*ck who decides and sets up your system for you?
Of coz' you could click buttons here and slide sliders there all you want, but what's that going to help? MS still has the final word and could set your system to ignore those buttons.. just switch over to *nixes already.
Even if they gave those boxes free, they would be useless in a world where everybody everywhere would follow The Rules and The Laws by the book. I mean have they even bothered checking if any of those cross any laws in all the countries they're selling?
What good is it if they give 50 pages of utter, complete bull in 5 different languages if even one rule is conflicting? Why should I care about papers where they have apparently copypasted everything even remotely affecting rules and demands from all laws they could find? It surely seems like it.
Is competition really this fierce that bare products with only kind suggestions of how to use it are impossible? Can't they just sell their things and be happy that people even buy them? Are these the symptoms of too broad rights given to businesses?
Well I for one don't care about graphics if game is good, take Nethack for example.
There's so much to do other than graphics that not one commercial game has ever done at once: perfect LOS, moral checks, "everything affects everything else", gridless engine, true ballistics for ranged weapons, tens of different materials with real characteristics for penetration, explosions, resistances and combiantions of those all, hundreds of different weapons and defenses with real differences in useabilities, smoothly changing environments like from plains to forests to hills to mountains and everything between, plants in all various sizes and attributes (edible, construction material, flammable...), huge worlds wich'd take literally weeks to travel around at once, the underwater, the underterranean, the sky and the moon and and *faints*
Tell me, though, is a meltdown any less rare, if, say, a full loaded 747 airliner, or, say, a Leerjet packed with high explosives, crashes into a nuclear plant?
No, you tell me, what would it matter to you if that plane crashed on your house? Or if it crashed anywhere, on coal plant or gas plant? Yes, planes do crash and some of them crash intentionally on critical targets. Are you going to bend under terrorism and stand against all attempts to build important structures, because those might get attacked?
Or is it just nuclear plants? Don't you think that coal or gasplant could be as harmful a target? Wich one you'd chose if forced, another 9/11 or two 747s on randomly selected nuclear plants? Are you so sure that nuclear plants could then do more damage than what coal plants do when they're operating + if those get attacked?
So if I ever do hear on TV that a nuclear plant in my vicinity has been hit by a plane, and that vastly more radiation than was released in Chernobyl is pouring into the air,
Have you asked officials how big chances for that there is? If yes, then why don't you believe them? If no, you're made up your mind already and don't need any experts telling otherwise? Don't start with any "100% sure" crap because it isn't 100% sure that gigantic meteor won't hit you in the next 15 minutes either.
So there's no way a highly trained squad of fifty or a hundred suicidial terrorists could ever successfully attack one of them.
Is it me or am I hearing something about the lines of "100% certainty" here?...and also there is no way that highly trained single individual can smuggle an a-bomb into US city and set it off? Are you again telling to cease all activity with all hazardous things and stuff around the world just to make your "mind at ease"?
Streets and everything is still forced to a grid and 45 & 90 degree angles. Land elevations are still limited to fixed levels, no 16bit heightfields here. No.
I managed to break subway tunnels, waterpipes, bridges so many times because of these limits that I stopped playing simcity altogether. It even crashed when I desperately tried fixing things. To me screenshots look like most sequels do: better graphics but still as dumb internals and engine.
Populous had this kind of blocky landscape and that was.. how many years ago? RTS game Total Annihilation had landscapes that boys at Maxis should adopt: looked really smooth like heightfields do. Dunno if those really were or just more finely granulated "blockies". TA is also pretty aged now so lack of technologies is no excuse.
Old tech dressed in new pretty clothes. Shame. How about doing that the other way around for a change, use old UI and graphics but improve everything else? AI, details, gameplay, possibilities... Just say: "we have screenshots but those all look just like from the previous version..."
I think that can be understood as "working with others", no? It's not like he first invented paper, alphabet and writing all over again before starting his work on this book. Even if his take on the subject is over 1000 pages long it can still be an opinion building on other peoples work and adding to that. What does it matter if the man himself doesn't want to give short speeches or communicate by means other than writing books?
2600 just should move out of US. Is that so hard and why this has to be said again and again? It's not land of the free anymore (as if it ever was), so flee while you can!
Once highly skilled and educated people start flowing out of the country, it'll make powers-that-be really nervous about future.
..since I don't have other than CD players wich could take and spin something that's shaped just like a CD.
If it's a CD, then you're supposed to find it from a store under the label "audio CDs", if it's not, then is the store owner liable for selling dynamites that look like a cigars from the cigar stand? It seems like we need at least different stands in stores for "mostly playable discs that resemble CDs but are not"
Doesn't it make anybody wonder why clockspeeds rise with so small steps at a time? Why FSB and other buses always get only this kind of 100 -> 133 improvements? Why memory channels were only doubled and not quadrupled at once? Why consumer-level SMP mobos are mostly 2 fixed sockets and not 8 slots for processor cards and possibility to use riser cards after riser cards for extra processor slots infinitely:)
how easily singles at their jobs are. Just a little hint of sex and they'll do anything to get just a little better chances on getting some. It's likevise with married people whos' bored with their spouses.
No wonder why most employers want people who are "happily married". Most magazines, whatever their area is, are useless junk because their staff is bought out by companies.
If someone wants real critics' writings or fair comparisons, just pick that magazine wich dares to point weaknesses on every product. There's no weaknesses in some products? Well then that's not good enough 'zine, choose another.
There's ALWAYS something wrong, just remember that!
This is quite simple: They have been offering maybe 1Gbps broadband connections before but are now waking up to harsh reality understanding that if they continue, they'll be going down.
So what are they going to do, say "we were selling these 512kbps connections but now you'll get 64kpbs at the same low price! how about that, is it a deal"? -NO! So they can't make their services better in such ways that ordinary people can understand and only thing ordinaries understand about internet connections is: "more bandwidth is GOOD, broadband is GOOD".
What they're trying to do here is fix that problem people most often are complaining about, "it's too slow on middays, only evenings are acceptable".
They're segmenting their users without touching the bandwidth because that's their sellingpoint.
that's exactly what I was thinking when I read this:
"...produce a personal "sound shadow" in which everything but the unwanted noise will still be audible.
Then there was this:
"...and loudspeakers for blasting that anti-sound at the incoming noise.
If the incoming noise comes from everywhere around the place like in a train, then are the loudspeakers supposed to blast their anti-sound in all directions, too? I don't believe this machine can silence sounds as effectively as noise-cancelling headphones do. For starters, it creates more noise at other areas around "sound shadows" when these two sounds are not exactly out of phase, maybe even increase the audible noise where phase gets reversed, like you said. Secondly, since it can't predict the future and, what I figured from the article, is designed to silence the sound afterwards ie. after the start of it gets heard, it only works with predictable, "looping" sounds...or else it has to get input in advance as in microphone in between the noise source and the audience AND loudspeaker in between the microphone and the audience.
It's is a box with a mic in the backside and a loudspeaker in front? And what does the computer do, have a complete 3D model of the target area with the mics, noise sources and the loudspeakers in it? If so, then it's probable that it (the computer) can give a 3d visualization about how and where silencing effects occurs and where total noise levels increase because of that setup, operator can then adjust it to minimize negative effects in areas where audience are.
Yeah, like that's any kind of proof of how matters really are/were. I don't see how MS's complaint and their own doings are related in any way, and fair play doesn't have a place in the (big or small) businesses.
"Be has retained the law firm of Susman Godfrey L.L.P. on a contingent fee basis to represent Be and to seek recovery of damages for the benefit of the company and its stockholders."
...the firm (Susman Godfrey L.L.P.) has won trial verdicts in a cumulative dollar amount of more than $2 billion and has achieved settlements representing total recoveries of more than $2.2 billion.
Great. "The company" is this one greedy guy (Dan Johnston ) and "its stockholders" knew the risks of stock investments.
If this would have been no-monetary-gains trial then all would be right. But now... I hope they find a court wich punishes them all, MS included, for greediness and wasting the courts time with such a stupid and selfish reason.
Money does and masses do. It's not the companies that are keeping us down, it's masses that don't change their habits as long as they:
A) don't get annoyed enough to start thinking about alternatives
B) don't get to know any other way than the easy but costly way
C) listen only those who make loudest noises (big and many ads).
So eventually we'll be seeing so much ads everywhere as masses can take. We'll see as low and cheap quality products as masses tolerate. We'll get ripped off right and left, but everytime that rip-off technique or mehod is unique so that we can't find enough people who's been ripped-off same way. Not enough momentum means no problems for the company.
Getting to the point here, it doesn't matter if it's MS or Nokia ripping us off, we'll get shit anyway. What matters, is buying products from some company that isn't making business in countries where the gov protects monetary assets over humanity. Or where corporations can influence the politics.
Why the hell there isn't limits to how big a corporation can grow? In the end it's in nobodys best interests to have companies with (multi)billion dollar annual exchange rates. Now MS already has several market segments with hundreds of products, what good does it make?
What the FUCK does somebody with a million bucks coming in his pocket every year do with another million dollars coming in every year?? Impress his buddies and chicks, get laid more often? What? Why are car manufacturers, jevelry shops and others even making such products that require so much personal wealth? Don't they have brains to think where this all leads us?
A perfect solution and that's exactly why no US judge is issuing it. These antiMStrust trials have been around now for such a long time to make them seem like a cover up, a circus, an entertainment, etc.
It's plain clear that all worthwhile involved parties are bought and this trial-lookalike-horseshit is running just to make it seem like something's happening and progress is made and justice and equality and credibility and everything.
Even judges use computers and MS products and therefore are familiar with what POS those proggies are. They know as well as any the cornerstones MS is standing on. Remove one and whole system crashes. Closed proprietary stuff is one of them. What would other big companies think when some single misbehaving judge brought down a worldwide monopoly?
OTOH, I believe EU would be more than happy to force MS to it. But it can't because US don't want, other than fool around acting like stupid, pretending it's got real issues before it can dismantle one of it's valuable corporations. They waste time and probably help/fund MS so it can develop a product that can compete before time is up and they must face the facts.
In short, I think there's more international politics involved in MS-trials than what catches the eye.
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He thought: "let's not aim for the very best we can imagine or produce.. instead, upgrade little bit at a time here and there and make customers think they get something special when "4X" becomes "8X", etc."
I mean don't they have resources for more than meager 8X, I understand that making things parallel is a bit costly but still, they could even try to make something significant instead of this.. this.. yuk!
It's conspiracy I say! Large manufacturers are the only ones who could make something like AGP32X happen but they don't want to give their bleeding edge knowhow out, they want to keep some moving space if something unexpected happen like unknown little companies releasing something revolutionary.
I was just installing various things to my win2k box and it still wants rebooting when:
Nero was installed,
when VIA 4in1 was installed,
when ATI catalyst display drivers were installed,
when I changed pagefile's size,
when I changed access mode for IDE device from PIO to UDMA...
Where in the hell was your school to have that kind of draconian laws?! Make a fun joke and off to the principals office you go, sheesh... I hope you moved far and away from there, where ever it was, after graduation.
Also, when we get wall-sized TV-screens we'll want video feed at 40K x 30K rez at 100 full refreshes/sec. Then you can think again how much that kind of material can 1 exabyte store.
OMG, it just dawned to me that compressed and/or encrypted transmissions get close to being random data. How are aliens supposed to notice us if all they see are almost random transmissions?
What joy much less profit would ETIs get by making contact with us? I can't find one single reason why they should. Except maybe one: what different ways there exist to solve and represent certain problems, like grand unified theory or if our version of general relativity is more accurate or otherwise useable, etc. To keep us pursuing our own goals and not consentrating on alien study, it'd be important for them to stay unnoticed.
I'm going to lose karma for this.
Of coz' you could click buttons here and slide sliders there all you want, but what's that going to help? MS still has the final word and could set your system to ignore those buttons.. just switch over to *nixes already.
What good is it if they give 50 pages of utter, complete bull in 5 different languages if even one rule is conflicting? Why should I care about papers where they have apparently copypasted everything even remotely affecting rules and demands from all laws they could find? It surely seems like it.
Is competition really this fierce that bare products with only kind suggestions of how to use it are impossible? Can't they just sell their things and be happy that people even buy them? Are these the symptoms of too broad rights given to businesses?
There's so much to do other than graphics that not one commercial game has ever done at once: perfect LOS, moral checks, "everything affects everything else", gridless engine, true ballistics for ranged weapons, tens of different materials with real characteristics for penetration, explosions, resistances and combiantions of those all, hundreds of different weapons and defenses with real differences in useabilities, smoothly changing environments like from plains to forests to hills to mountains and everything between, plants in all various sizes and attributes (edible, construction material, flammable...), huge worlds wich'd take literally weeks to travel around at once, the underwater, the underterranean, the sky and the moon and and *faints*
No, you tell me, what would it matter to you if that plane crashed on your house? Or if it crashed anywhere, on coal plant or gas plant? Yes, planes do crash and some of them crash intentionally on critical targets. Are you going to bend under terrorism and stand against all attempts to build important structures, because those might get attacked?
Or is it just nuclear plants? Don't you think that coal or gasplant could be as harmful a target? Wich one you'd chose if forced, another 9/11 or two 747s on randomly selected nuclear plants? Are you so sure that nuclear plants could then do more damage than what coal plants do when they're operating + if those get attacked?
So if I ever do hear on TV that a nuclear plant in my vicinity has been hit by a plane, and that vastly more radiation than was released in Chernobyl is pouring into the air,
Have you asked officials how big chances for that there is? If yes, then why don't you believe them? If no, you're made up your mind already and don't need any experts telling otherwise? Don't start with any "100% sure" crap because it isn't 100% sure that gigantic meteor won't hit you in the next 15 minutes either.
So there's no way a highly trained squad of fifty or a hundred suicidial terrorists could ever successfully attack one of them.
Is it me or am I hearing something about the lines of "100% certainty" here? ...and also there is no way that highly trained single individual can smuggle an a-bomb into US city and set it off? Are you again telling to cease all activity with all hazardous things and stuff around the world just to make your "mind at ease"?
I managed to break subway tunnels, waterpipes, bridges so many times because of these limits that I stopped playing simcity altogether. It even crashed when I desperately tried fixing things. To me screenshots look like most sequels do: better graphics but still as dumb internals and engine.
Populous had this kind of blocky landscape and that was.. how many years ago? RTS game Total Annihilation had landscapes that boys at Maxis should adopt: looked really smooth like heightfields do. Dunno if those really were or just more finely granulated "blockies". TA is also pretty aged now so lack of technologies is no excuse.
Old tech dressed in new pretty clothes. Shame. How about doing that the other way around for a change, use old UI and graphics but improve everything else? AI, details, gameplay, possibilities... Just say: "we have screenshots but those all look just like from the previous version..."
Could you send me few gibs and ribs of a legistlator for my new DoomIII themed interior decorations?
I think that can be understood as "working with others", no? It's not like he first invented paper, alphabet and writing all over again before starting his work on this book. Even if his take on the subject is over 1000 pages long it can still be an opinion building on other peoples work and adding to that. What does it matter if the man himself doesn't want to give short speeches or communicate by means other than writing books?
Once highly skilled and educated people start flowing out of the country, it'll make powers-that-be really nervous about future.
Who cares, it's POS for a nation anyway...
If it's a CD, then you're supposed to find it from a store under the label "audio CDs", if it's not, then is the store owner liable for selling dynamites that look like a cigars from the cigar stand? It seems like we need at least different stands in stores for "mostly playable discs that resemble CDs but are not"
Doesn't it make anybody wonder why clockspeeds rise with so small steps at a time? Why FSB and other buses always get only this kind of 100 -> 133 improvements? Why memory channels were only doubled and not quadrupled at once? Why consumer-level SMP mobos are mostly 2 fixed sockets and not 8 slots for processor cards and possibility to use riser cards after riser cards for extra processor slots infinitely :)
No wonder why most employers want people who are "happily married". Most magazines, whatever their area is, are useless junk because their staff is bought out by companies.
If someone wants real critics' writings or fair comparisons, just pick that magazine wich dares to point weaknesses on every product. There's no weaknesses in some products? Well then that's not good enough 'zine, choose another.
There's ALWAYS something wrong, just remember that!
So what are they going to do, say "we were selling these 512kbps connections but now you'll get 64kpbs at the same low price! how about that, is it a deal"? -NO! So they can't make their services better in such ways that ordinary people can understand and only thing ordinaries understand about internet connections is: "more bandwidth is GOOD, broadband is GOOD".
What they're trying to do here is fix that problem people most often are complaining about, "it's too slow on middays, only evenings are acceptable".
They're segmenting their users without touching the bandwidth because that's their sellingpoint.
"...produce a personal "sound shadow" in which everything but the unwanted noise will still be audible.
Then there was this:
"...and loudspeakers for blasting that anti-sound at the incoming noise.
If the incoming noise comes from everywhere around the place like in a train, then are the loudspeakers supposed to blast their anti-sound in all directions, too? I don't believe this machine can silence sounds as effectively as noise-cancelling headphones do. For starters, it creates more noise at other areas around "sound shadows" when these two sounds are not exactly out of phase, maybe even increase the audible noise where phase gets reversed, like you said. Secondly, since it can't predict the future and, what I figured from the article, is designed to silence the sound afterwards ie. after the start of it gets heard, it only works with predictable, "looping" sounds. ..or else it has to get input in advance as in microphone in between the noise source and the audience AND loudspeaker in between the microphone and the audience.
It's is a box with a mic in the backside and a loudspeaker in front? And what does the computer do, have a complete 3D model of the target area with the mics, noise sources and the loudspeakers in it? If so, then it's probable that it (the computer) can give a 3d visualization about how and where silencing effects occurs and where total noise levels increase because of that setup, operator can then adjust it to minimize negative effects in areas where audience are.
Yeah, like that's any kind of proof of how matters really are/were. I don't see how MS's complaint and their own doings are related in any way, and fair play doesn't have a place in the (big or small) businesses.
Looks like a good way to persuade programmers to do their stuff with MP processing in mind.
Great. "The company" is this one greedy guy (Dan Johnston
) and "its stockholders" knew the risks of stock investments.
If this would have been no-monetary-gains trial then all would be right. But now... I hope they find a court wich punishes them all, MS included, for greediness and wasting the courts time with such a stupid and selfish reason.
A) don't get annoyed enough to start thinking about alternatives
B) don't get to know any other way than the easy but costly way
C) listen only those who make loudest noises (big and many ads).
So eventually we'll be seeing so much ads everywhere as masses can take. We'll see as low and cheap quality products as masses tolerate. We'll get ripped off right and left, but everytime that rip-off technique or mehod is unique so that we can't find enough people who's been ripped-off same way. Not enough momentum means no problems for the company.
Getting to the point here, it doesn't matter if it's MS or Nokia ripping us off, we'll get shit anyway. What matters, is buying products from some company that isn't making business in countries where the gov protects monetary assets over humanity. Or where corporations can influence the politics.
Why the hell there isn't limits to how big a corporation can grow? In the end it's in nobodys best interests to have companies with (multi)billion dollar annual exchange rates. Now MS already has several market segments with hundreds of products, what good does it make?
What the FUCK does somebody with a million bucks coming in his pocket every year do with another million dollars coming in every year?? Impress his buddies and chicks, get laid more often? What? Why are car manufacturers, jevelry shops and others even making such products that require so much personal wealth? Don't they have brains to think where this all leads us?
It's plain clear that all worthwhile involved parties are bought and this trial-lookalike-horseshit is running just to make it seem like something's happening and progress is made and justice and equality and credibility and everything.
Even judges use computers and MS products and therefore are familiar with what POS those proggies are. They know as well as any the cornerstones MS is standing on. Remove one and whole system crashes. Closed proprietary stuff is one of them. What would other big companies think when some single misbehaving judge brought down a worldwide monopoly?
OTOH, I believe EU would be more than happy to force MS to it. But it can't because US don't want, other than fool around acting like stupid, pretending it's got real issues before it can dismantle one of it's valuable corporations. They waste time and probably help/fund MS so it can develop a product that can compete before time is up and they must face the facts.
In short, I think there's more international politics involved in MS-trials than what catches the eye.