hundreds, with the promise to keep on going. And I believe them.
i believe they want to also. but the public outcry will become so large at some point they'll either be forced to quit, or *gasp* realize suing their customers is a bad business practice...
As for the spammers, I have issues with "making an example out of a few" I think that's unethical. I say if you're gonna do it, go balls to the wall, and nail EVERYONE spamming, or no one. I'd argue that policy would be more effective overall.
Now I'm not defending the RIAA by any means but...
The RIAA is suing the whole internet , not just a handful of people.
Actually if we're going by actaul lawsuits, they haven't filed all that many, last I heard the count was only in the hundreds... Thye may WANT to sue everyone on the internet, but they'll get shot down long before hand..
Just because the RIAA might be using this tactic doesn't make it a bad idea. Your logic is flawed.
In what way? I never said it was a bad idea. I just find it funny that alot of/. folk absoluetly hate the RIAA for doing this, but when it works in their favor, they love the idea...
Check on eBay, and you'll find an Indigo iMac (350 MHz G3, 64 MB RAM, 7 GB hard disk, running OS 9) going for $300+ with dozens of bids.
I'd argue that's due more to the stupidity of people bidding on ebay than actual resale value of a Mac. I like Mac's, but people on ebay will bid $250 on anything that just powers up.
I think you're too involved in "the big picture". Being involved in social causes, when all said and done, comes down to a single person, doing something, giving something, helping out someone who needs it. you don't have to do something grandoise. Pick a local school, offer them your services free of charge to set up and maintain (administer) a computer lab, or teach an afterschool program for the kids, or hell, do that at the YMCA or something. you don't have to get famous or well known, just do something that makes a difference to someone, just find someone in need and help 'em out.
on the procrastination side. I had the same problem. Well instead of fighting it, I went with it. I knew I would procrastinate, I expected it, and I planned for it.
I wouldn't sit down to do the work, until I started getting worried about finnishing it. Yeah, I had many late nights, but instead of wasting my time the other nights I would do what I wanted to do (go out, watch tv, sleep, etc)
Now this may seem a bad attitude on it, but it worked for me. Instead of trying to work around my "preferred" system of getting work done, I just worked with it. Realize you're gonna be a slacker/procrasitinate, and plan accordingly.
and use some of that extra time you gain to catch up on the sleep ya lost!
You realize, of course, that what you've written doesn't apply to IT shops.
you're right, it doesn't in the same way. but...
Well, lets just say that the old dogs are in a world of shit.
This field is about learning new skills and applying them in an endless cycle.
True, in a sense. In engineering at least, we're always dealing w/ new technologies, and most of the older engineers keep up and do well, no matter what get's thrown at them. Mainly because the enjoy what they do and are constatntly learning. the same can be said of good coders. What you get w/ the older generation (that don't think of themselves as "old dogs") is the ability to learn quickly and apply what they already know to a new technology/solution. Sure, they may not know everything there is to know about a new technology, but previous experiences help alot more than they hinder a "good programmer"
just my $0.02
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Attaching age to that is an unfortunate sterotype that comes along with being in IT or almost any other profession for that matter.
Being an Engineer, not an IT person, I would have to say that the IT industry should take a look at other engineering disciplines. If you ever go into a shop where the older engineers are gone, and you have only young ones, run. As you get older, you learn more, and have more experience. What this buys you is that you'll see more of the faults in a particular design alot quicker than a newbie, and you'll probably have a solution quicker.
The older guys are around for a reason. They know their shit. You take that away, and who do the new people learn from? Their own mistakes, that's who, and in the mean time you get bug filled, problematic code.
enitrely good point. The law has very liitle to do w/ this other than be a club the RIAA uses to get what they want out of people. In all reality they simply want someone, whom alot of the "pirates" identify with, that has a high profile whose life they can screw up permanently.
Maybe I'm being too poetic, but with a world on the brink of war, a confirmation of an alien civilization would be an amazing thing right now. Maybe give our leaders a kick in the ass that their petty squabbles are not the end all be all of our existence.
silly engineers, when I worked for motorolla and we had a new product, the FIRST test we put it through was the smoke test. We went for lunch, and on the way plugged the devices into the car lighter socket to see if it smoked.
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I personally don't know how cheap DeBeer's diamonds are, but their (gemesis) pricing (from a company email) ain't exactly cheap:
Pricing: MSRP is $3250 per carat for diamonds 1.0 carats and greater and $1750.00 per carat for diamonds under 1.0 carat
oh surely not, it was simply an infantile attempt at humor which obviusly failed horribly.
Oh, you work for SCO then?
i believe they want to also. but the public outcry will become so large at some point they'll either be forced to quit, or *gasp* realize suing their customers is a bad business practice...
As for the spammers, I have issues with "making an example out of a few" I think that's unethical. I say if you're gonna do it, go balls to the wall, and nail EVERYONE spamming, or no one. I'd argue that policy would be more effective overall.
The RIAA is suing the whole internet , not just a handful of people.
Actually if we're going by actaul lawsuits, they haven't filed all that many, last I heard the count was only in the hundreds... Thye may WANT to sue everyone on the internet, but they'll get shot down long before hand..
Just because the RIAA might be using this tactic doesn't make it a bad idea. Your logic is flawed.
In what way? I never said it was a bad idea. I just find it funny that alot of /. folk absoluetly hate the RIAA for doing this, but when it works in their favor, they love the idea...
Funny, isn't that what the RIAA is doing to people?
NEVER!!!
They can have my futurama DVD set when they pry it form my cold dead hands!
I'd argue that's due more to the stupidity of people bidding on ebay than actual resale value of a Mac. I like Mac's, but people on ebay will bid $250 on anything that just powers up.
I think you're too involved in "the big picture". Being involved in social causes, when all said and done, comes down to a single person, doing something, giving something, helping out someone who needs it. you don't have to do something grandoise. Pick a local school, offer them your services free of charge to set up and maintain (administer) a computer lab, or teach an afterschool program for the kids, or hell, do that at the YMCA or something. you don't have to get famous or well known, just do something that makes a difference to someone, just find someone in need and help 'em out.
Geez fucking A! W/ all of the wackos out there, can't one of them just go "whack" these guys?
cuz this is slashdot dude, what are you looking for, an informed intelligent discussion?
I wouldn't sit down to do the work, until I started getting worried about finnishing it. Yeah, I had many late nights, but instead of wasting my time the other nights I would do what I wanted to do (go out, watch tv, sleep, etc)
Now this may seem a bad attitude on it, but it worked for me. Instead of trying to work around my "preferred" system of getting work done, I just worked with it. Realize you're gonna be a slacker/procrasitinate, and plan accordingly.
and use some of that extra time you gain to catch up on the sleep ya lost!
you're right, it doesn't in the same way. but...
Well, lets just say that the old dogs are in a world of shit.
This field is about learning new skills and applying them in an endless cycle.
True, in a sense. In engineering at least, we're always dealing w/ new technologies, and most of the older engineers keep up and do well, no matter what get's thrown at them. Mainly because the enjoy what they do and are constatntly learning. the same can be said of good coders. What you get w/ the older generation (that don't think of themselves as "old dogs") is the ability to learn quickly and apply what they already know to a new technology/solution. Sure, they may not know everything there is to know about a new technology, but previous experiences help alot more than they hinder a "good programmer"
just my $0.02
Being an Engineer, not an IT person, I would have to say that the IT industry should take a look at other engineering disciplines. If you ever go into a shop where the older engineers are gone, and you have only young ones, run. As you get older, you learn more, and have more experience. What this buys you is that you'll see more of the faults in a particular design alot quicker than a newbie, and you'll probably have a solution quicker.
The older guys are around for a reason. They know their shit. You take that away, and who do the new people learn from? Their own mistakes, that's who, and in the mean time you get bug filled, problematic code.
but that's just my opinion, I could be wrong....
damnint Bones! you beat me to it!
Can M$ actually do this w/out incurring the wrath of Apple's lawyers?
enitrely good point. The law has very liitle to do w/ this other than be a club the RIAA uses to get what they want out of people. In all reality they simply want someone, whom alot of the "pirates" identify with, that has a high profile whose life they can screw up permanently.
riiiigggghhhhttt.......
what? a senator thinking about his constituents and not his campaign fund? what is this world coming to?!?!?
Maybe I'm being too poetic, but with a world on the brink of war, a confirmation of an alien civilization would be an amazing thing right now. Maybe give our leaders a kick in the ass that their petty squabbles are not the end all be all of our existence.
Quick call the RIAA! we've found their problem!
we rolled the windows down alot....