I'm still waiting for someone to prove this:
Step One: Steal Underpants
Step Two:...
Step Three: Profit.
When they can prove that, THEN I'll be impressed.:)
umm, I do believe that their technical requirements were only available FOR WINDOWS, which would lead ONE TO BELIEVE that they HADNT FINISHED the other two OS's yet!
And games DO get scrapped up until production time. Its pretty common, however sucky. At least this one WILL come out, and the linux users will get the linux copy for free (a download, I believe) along with the Windows version.
Mac, on the otherhand, I am thinking is a seperate purchase.
And I DO follow "the community" as you put it, as I have been hyping the "linux support" to a friend of mine for about the past 2 years or so. It SUCKS they arent releasing it straight away, but I'd rather have it for their OS of choise then to wait for two other ports.
This means equipment will be expensive, and would have to be professionally installed.
Oh lord, it took 12 different techs 6 tries over 4 months to get my 1 cable modem working... Imagine if something actually had to be PROFESSIONALLY installed!
You've missed the point. What I'm saying is that you (in general) knew that software works different on different OS's, and therefor certain things will NOT WORK on Linux/Mac (at all or right away). Hence, if gaming was a concern of yours, then you should have chosen Windows. If it WASNT, which is obvious due to the OS you are running, then why complain? I want to play Mario, I buy a GC. I want to play Halo, I buy an X-Box. I want to run a webserver or whatnot, I use a *nix. I want to play the latest PC games, I use Windows.
**NOT OFF-TOPIC** okay people, its been like what, 10 years or so since these two came out and I still cant play Mario on the Genesis. What does this have to do with anything? Well, none of us here were forced to use X OS (as in variable, not necessarily OS X), we MADE that choice. Its not like we didnt KNOW that Windows is the "platform of choice" for 99.9% of all games released. Bioware (and other companies) couls just say to heck with Linux and Macintosh, but no, they DO develop their software for them. Does it take longer? sometimes. But why should 90% of the gaming population suffer because some of you refuse to dual boot. I dont expect to play GTA3 on my Game Cube. I didnt expect to play Mario on my Genesis. Say this is any different, and you've missed the entire point.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
Okay, if anyone actually bothered to READ the EULA, they will see that Bioware has actually done a Good Thing (tm). Now you actually have to distribute your module, as opposed to simply "serving" it. Which I suppose means that if 5,000 people play under me as a DM, they cant touch it, but if I send it to Billy Bob jr to play on his Lindows machine, its fair game.:)
You guys are as fickle as a dumb blond. Yesterday it was "blast Bioware they arent supporting Linux out of the box" and now its "Blast Wal-mart FOR trying to support a Linux distro"! Which is it guys? I mean, COME OFF IT! You dont REALLY want Linux to be mainstream, do you? No, I didnt think so. If you did, you'd be WILLING to help "J Bubba Jr." to not only install his mouse, but actually RUN a program or two on his new l33t machine! Instead, 99% of you are pissy. Why?? A MAJOR RETAILER (like it or not, they ARE) is selling a LINUX COMPUTER. CHEAP TOO! It doesnt make sense. Or is it just because you're starting to realize that if EVERYONE switches to linux, you'll no longer be l33t hax0rs??
And of course the WONDERFULLY INTELLIGENT AND FRIENDLY CUSTOMER SERVICE/TECH SUPPORT REPS have NOTHING to do with the lack of people getting/staying with broadband. I know when MYcable modem was going out DAILY from 2pm-6pm they rushed right out to fix it!
What did "Al's Meats and More" ever do to you? I'm not any happier about the events of 9-11, but I dont wish a crashing plane on anyone. For shame on you to wish a plane crash ANYWHERE.
And yes, I understand that good ol' Al and his three customers are better than a few thousand like in the WTC, but death is death, and this aint Star Trek where the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Especially since they brought "the few" back the very next episode.
Okay, there is an infinite amount of space, and a finite amount of life in the universe. now, last time I checked a finite amount divided by an infinite amount was 0. Therefor, there is no life in the universe. (Obligatory HHGttG reference)
ya know, up until like 3 months ago I believe the service was this price anyway, if not more expensive. I seem to recall being somewhat happy when they stated they were dropping their price by $10 dollars(I live in Virginia). And I'd rather pay an extra 5-10 dollars a month and continue to use gigabytes upon gigabytes of bandwidth (gotta love KaZaA Lite and Audiogalaxy, not to mention the gaming fix of WC3!!!) over my home network as opposed to having that capped at some rediculously low amount of bandwidth.
just my $.02
First Look at Netscape 7.0: A Good Start
Preview of update reveals niceties, including e-mail management tools, multiwindow browsing, and site icons.
Tom Spring, PCWorld.com
Wednesday, May 22, 2002
Opening this week is "Browser Wars: Episode 7." Like a sequel lumbering into the cineplex, Netscape's latest preview of its Netscape 7.0 browser will battle with Microsoft's Internet Explorer.
The browser-building AOL Time Warner division has ratcheted its software with some nifty new features and even some copycat Internet Explorer tricks. A cursory review of the beta version of Netscape 7.0 running on the Windows XP operating system was stable compared to prerelease versions of Netscape 6.x. But download Netscape 7.0 Preview Release 1 at your own risk, recognizing there are reasons it's still in beta testing.
Netscape expects to ship the final version this summer, says Catherine Corre, Netscape communications director.
New and Noteworthy
Highlights of the new features include Tabbed Browsing; e-mail management tools; and Radio@Netscape, which hooks into AOL's Spinner online music division. The Netscape 7.0 preview release improves what felt like unfinished work with the Netscape 6.x browser. For example, Netscape has restored the Print Preview feature, dropped from Netscape 6.x. It also gave Download Manager a meaningful upgrade, and added support for Site Icons that appear in the URL field and alongside bookmarks.
On the downside, installing the preview of Netscape 7.0 over earlier versions of Netscape caused some e-mail confusion. Custom mailbox folders did not appear in Netscape 7.0's Netscape Mail client, and other messages showed up in the wrong folders. Installing the beta Netscape 7.0 browser on a PC that had no earlier versions of Netscape avoided the problems, however.
Tabbed Browsing is one of the best new features of Netscape 7.0. With tabs, you can view multiple Web pages within one browser window without cluttering your desktop, and just tab among them. It's a nifty tool for comparing deals across shopping sites, or for grouping several favorite Web pages. You can even save your tabs--under bookmarks (not exactly intuitive). Or you can right-click a Web link and save the tab.
The Netscape 7.0 Preview is available in three versions: a 9MB download for the browser only; a 12.6MB download to install the recommended components, including mail, newsgroup reader, and instant messaging software; and a 30.8MB version crammed with audio and video plug-ins along with Sun Microsystems Sun Java 2.
E-Mail Applause
E-mail junkies who store old messages like pack rats will appreciate Netscape 7.0's attention to Netscape Mail.
Netscape steals a design feature from Microsoft, adding a pop-up e-mail alert to your system tray. Within the Netscape Mail client, you can apply Custom Labels to e-mail messages. To group or prioritize messages, you just right-click a message and tag it red, blue, or green.
The mail client has also gained a search field. When you're looking for an old message, just start typing the sender's e-mail address or the message's subject line, and the in-box view winnows down to the message you seek.
Unearthed from previous versions of Netscape is a nifty filter feature that can help you pare back spam. To stop unsolicited e-mail from a particular sender, you need only click on the offender's e-mail address. A filter dialog box guides you through the process of automatically trashing all future messages from that sender.
As for the Mystery of the Missing Folders, Netscape representatives call the e-mail problems with the beta "unique." They say the glitch occurred because the test system had both Netscape 4.7 and 6.2 installed. Upon installation, the Netscape 7.0 preview couldn't determine which old Netscape e-mail folders to associate with.
Parental Help
On the communication front, Netscape 7.0's instant messaging client supports both ICQ and AOL Instant Messenger, although the networks remain separate. Also noteworthy is the new capability to execute searches by highlighting text embedded on a Web page and selecting "Web Search." The process connects you to your default search engine.
New features aside, Netscape still faces a hefty challenge to regain the title of champion browser. The various versions of IE command 93 percent of the global browser market, according to WebSideStory. But signs show the underdog stands a fighting chance.
AOL Time Warner, Netscape's parent, has hinted it may drop IE from its America Online client in favor of Netscape. AOL is evaluating the Netscape 7.0 browser's core Gecko engine, says Sol Goldfarb, director of Netscape product marketing.
With AOL's powerful market presence--numbering 34 million registered users--Netscape could be poised for a comeback if it replaces IE's role for AOL users.
The courts might help. Netscape has filed civil suit against Microsoft, alleging the software maker harmed Netscape with anticompetitive practices related to the Windows operating system. The lawsuit relies on a federal district court ruling that Microsoft abused its monopoly power by cutting deals with PC manufacturers that ultimately hindered sales of Netscape's previous Netscape Navigator browser.
Spidey was a better movie, but my spider sense tells me that AotC will surpass it because Yoda's fight with Darth Tyrannus was simply awesome. It was worth sitting through the drivel of Anakin's raging rage and Amidala's sappy sap sap yet again.
Anakin's fall from grace is central to the Star Wars world. Like any young man, he is torn between the duties of being a Jedi and pursing the woman he loves. The conflicting emotions cause him to make snap judgments that consistently lead to him into danger.
Yeah, I know last week I was torn between staying home and practicing with my 'saber or going out with my woman...
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I'm still waiting for someone to prove this: Step One: Steal Underpants Step Two: ...
Step Three: Profit.
When they can prove that, THEN I'll be impressed. :)
Why yes, yes i have... its on each Neverwinter disk, as well as the first screen you seen when you hit "play".
;)
I am not sure their offical role in the developmental process, however, but I did play Atari today!
or you could just sit at home in the comfort of your own room and download it off of KaZaA (lite, of course!) :)
:)
I believe its a file called "warcraft 3 beta ISO. WORKS!" (about 440 megs!)
... until the robots try to escape!
"The group is pushing a new blue-laser format for standard-sized CDs, which will increase their capacity to 27GB"
:)
THAT will be cool... 120 gig HD on about 5 CD's...
hehehe
umm, I do believe that their technical requirements were only available FOR WINDOWS, which would lead ONE TO BELIEVE that they HADNT FINISHED the other two OS's yet!
And games DO get scrapped up until production time. Its pretty common, however sucky. At least this one WILL come out, and the linux users will get the linux copy for free (a download, I believe) along with the Windows version.
Mac, on the otherhand, I am thinking is a seperate purchase.
And I DO follow "the community" as you put it, as I have been hyping the "linux support" to a friend of mine for about the past 2 years or so. It SUCKS they arent releasing it straight away, but I'd rather have it for their OS of choise then to wait for two other ports.
This means equipment will be expensive, and would have to be professionally installed.
Oh lord, it took 12 different techs 6 tries over 4 months to get my 1 cable modem working... Imagine if something actually had to be PROFESSIONALLY installed!
:)
You've missed the point. What I'm saying is that you (in general) knew that software works different on different OS's, and therefor certain things will NOT WORK on Linux/Mac (at all or right away). Hence, if gaming was a concern of yours, then you should have chosen Windows. If it WASNT, which is obvious due to the OS you are running, then why complain? I want to play Mario, I buy a GC. I want to play Halo, I buy an X-Box. I want to run a webserver or whatnot, I use a *nix. I want to play the latest PC games, I use Windows.
**NOT OFF-TOPIC** okay people, its been like what, 10 years or so since these two came out and I still cant play Mario on the Genesis. What does this have to do with anything? Well, none of us here were forced to use X OS (as in variable, not necessarily OS X), we MADE that choice. Its not like we didnt KNOW that Windows is the "platform of choice" for 99.9% of all games released. Bioware (and other companies) couls just say to heck with Linux and Macintosh, but no, they DO develop their software for them. Does it take longer? sometimes. But why should 90% of the gaming population suffer because some of you refuse to dual boot. I dont expect to play GTA3 on my Game Cube. I didnt expect to play Mario on my Genesis. Say this is any different, and you've missed the entire point.
The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, or the one.
Unfortunantly it SHIPS today, and is out tomorrow... of course, I will be the first through the door if thats not true. :)
Okay, if anyone actually bothered to READ the EULA, they will see that Bioware has actually done a Good Thing (tm). Now you actually have to distribute your module, as opposed to simply "serving" it. Which I suppose means that if 5,000 people play under me as a DM, they cant touch it, but if I send it to Billy Bob jr to play on his Lindows machine, its fair game. :)
...but not strong enough to withstand a slashdotting!
You guys are as fickle as a dumb blond. Yesterday it was "blast Bioware they arent supporting Linux out of the box" and now its "Blast Wal-mart FOR trying to support a Linux distro"! Which is it guys? I mean, COME OFF IT! You dont REALLY want Linux to be mainstream, do you? No, I didnt think so. If you did, you'd be WILLING to help "J Bubba Jr." to not only install his mouse, but actually RUN a program or two on his new l33t machine! Instead, 99% of you are pissy. Why?? A MAJOR RETAILER (like it or not, they ARE) is selling a LINUX COMPUTER. CHEAP TOO! It doesnt make sense. Or is it just because you're starting to realize that if EVERYONE switches to linux, you'll no longer be l33t hax0rs??
I did that once... I stayed for about 3 more weeks and then went right out the door...
hmm, still, I have a computer, what the heck do I want a Divx-box for?
heh, old school web address straight to DnD bypassing that Pokemon crap on wizards front page. Go /.!
slasdotted THAT one too!! Go us!
And of course the WONDERFULLY INTELLIGENT AND FRIENDLY CUSTOMER SERVICE/TECH SUPPORT REPS have NOTHING to do with the lack of people getting/staying with broadband. I know when MYcable modem was going out DAILY from 2pm-6pm they rushed right out to fix it!
What did "Al's Meats and More" ever do to you? I'm not any happier about the events of 9-11, but I dont wish a crashing plane on anyone. For shame on you to wish a plane crash ANYWHERE.
And yes, I understand that good ol' Al and his three customers are better than a few thousand like in the WTC, but death is death, and this aint Star Trek where the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Especially since they brought "the few" back the very next episode.
Okay, there is an infinite amount of space, and a finite amount of life in the universe. now, last time I checked a finite amount divided by an infinite amount was 0. Therefor, there is no life in the universe. (Obligatory HHGttG reference)
:)
ya know, up until like 3 months ago I believe the service was this price anyway, if not more expensive. I seem to recall being somewhat happy when they stated they were dropping their price by $10 dollars(I live in Virginia). And I'd rather pay an extra 5-10 dollars a month and continue to use gigabytes upon gigabytes of bandwidth (gotta love KaZaA Lite and Audiogalaxy, not to mention the gaming fix of WC3!!!) over my home network as opposed to having that capped at some rediculously low amount of bandwidth. just my $.02
First Look at Netscape 7.0: A Good Start Preview of update reveals niceties, including e-mail management tools, multiwindow browsing, and site icons. Tom Spring, PCWorld.com Wednesday, May 22, 2002 Opening this week is "Browser Wars: Episode 7." Like a sequel lumbering into the cineplex, Netscape's latest preview of its Netscape 7.0 browser will battle with Microsoft's Internet Explorer. The browser-building AOL Time Warner division has ratcheted its software with some nifty new features and even some copycat Internet Explorer tricks. A cursory review of the beta version of Netscape 7.0 running on the Windows XP operating system was stable compared to prerelease versions of Netscape 6.x. But download Netscape 7.0 Preview Release 1 at your own risk, recognizing there are reasons it's still in beta testing. Netscape expects to ship the final version this summer, says Catherine Corre, Netscape communications director. New and Noteworthy Highlights of the new features include Tabbed Browsing; e-mail management tools; and Radio@Netscape, which hooks into AOL's Spinner online music division. The Netscape 7.0 preview release improves what felt like unfinished work with the Netscape 6.x browser. For example, Netscape has restored the Print Preview feature, dropped from Netscape 6.x. It also gave Download Manager a meaningful upgrade, and added support for Site Icons that appear in the URL field and alongside bookmarks. On the downside, installing the preview of Netscape 7.0 over earlier versions of Netscape caused some e-mail confusion. Custom mailbox folders did not appear in Netscape 7.0's Netscape Mail client, and other messages showed up in the wrong folders. Installing the beta Netscape 7.0 browser on a PC that had no earlier versions of Netscape avoided the problems, however. Tabbed Browsing is one of the best new features of Netscape 7.0. With tabs, you can view multiple Web pages within one browser window without cluttering your desktop, and just tab among them. It's a nifty tool for comparing deals across shopping sites, or for grouping several favorite Web pages. You can even save your tabs--under bookmarks (not exactly intuitive). Or you can right-click a Web link and save the tab. The Netscape 7.0 Preview is available in three versions: a 9MB download for the browser only; a 12.6MB download to install the recommended components, including mail, newsgroup reader, and instant messaging software; and a 30.8MB version crammed with audio and video plug-ins along with Sun Microsystems Sun Java 2. E-Mail Applause E-mail junkies who store old messages like pack rats will appreciate Netscape 7.0's attention to Netscape Mail. Netscape steals a design feature from Microsoft, adding a pop-up e-mail alert to your system tray. Within the Netscape Mail client, you can apply Custom Labels to e-mail messages. To group or prioritize messages, you just right-click a message and tag it red, blue, or green. The mail client has also gained a search field. When you're looking for an old message, just start typing the sender's e-mail address or the message's subject line, and the in-box view winnows down to the message you seek. Unearthed from previous versions of Netscape is a nifty filter feature that can help you pare back spam. To stop unsolicited e-mail from a particular sender, you need only click on the offender's e-mail address. A filter dialog box guides you through the process of automatically trashing all future messages from that sender. As for the Mystery of the Missing Folders, Netscape representatives call the e-mail problems with the beta "unique." They say the glitch occurred because the test system had both Netscape 4.7 and 6.2 installed. Upon installation, the Netscape 7.0 preview couldn't determine which old Netscape e-mail folders to associate with. Parental Help On the communication front, Netscape 7.0's instant messaging client supports both ICQ and AOL Instant Messenger, although the networks remain separate. Also noteworthy is the new capability to execute searches by highlighting text embedded on a Web page and selecting "Web Search." The process connects you to your default search engine. New features aside, Netscape still faces a hefty challenge to regain the title of champion browser. The various versions of IE command 93 percent of the global browser market, according to WebSideStory. But signs show the underdog stands a fighting chance. AOL Time Warner, Netscape's parent, has hinted it may drop IE from its America Online client in favor of Netscape. AOL is evaluating the Netscape 7.0 browser's core Gecko engine, says Sol Goldfarb, director of Netscape product marketing. With AOL's powerful market presence--numbering 34 million registered users--Netscape could be poised for a comeback if it replaces IE's role for AOL users. The courts might help. Netscape has filed civil suit against Microsoft, alleging the software maker harmed Netscape with anticompetitive practices related to the Windows operating system. The lawsuit relies on a federal district court ruling that Microsoft abused its monopoly power by cutting deals with PC manufacturers that ultimately hindered sales of Netscape's previous Netscape Navigator browser.
...as the EULA that came with {insert Evil Product here}
:)
Spidey was a better movie, but my spider sense tells me that AotC will surpass it because Yoda's fight with Darth Tyrannus was simply awesome. It was worth sitting through the drivel of Anakin's raging rage and Amidala's sappy sap sap yet again.
Anakin's fall from grace is central to the Star Wars world. Like any young man, he is torn between the duties of being a Jedi and pursing the woman he loves. The conflicting emotions cause him to make snap judgments that consistently lead to him into danger.
Yeah, I know last week I was torn between staying home and practicing with my 'saber or going out with my woman...