It sounds like this guy had an especially bad day at work--I don't see where he made his case for tossing out his PCs and switching to Mac. Let's take a closer look....
Windows is complex, trying to be everything to everyone.
True. Many mac apps, especially those from Apple, will sacrifice features to keep things simple. Other apps keep the complex stuff hidden behind the simple stuff.
When a new operating system or service pack is released, there are tons of changes to the functionality.
Yes, the updates I get from Apple seem to focus on bug fixes, while Microsoft seems to create these huge updates that add new features and often break old ones.
WinTel machines use different versions of BIOS. They are not all equal, nor do they all have the same level of compatibility.
Well, that's the price you pay for being able to buy PCs from a number of different manufacturers. Apple is the only source of macs, they control the BIOS and the quality. Sounds like a trade off.
Some Windows software applications are well written; others take shortcuts. Shortcuts may work in some environments, but not all, and ultimately the consumer pays in lost time, availability and productivity.
You could also say the same thing about Mac applications.
Hardware. There are hundreds of "WinTel-compatible" motherboards, each claiming to be better than the next. Whatever.
This is a reason to switch to macs?! He's complaining about security, then instead of going into more detail about that, he complains about hardware.
Memory. Not all RAM is equal. Some works well. Cheap stuff doesn't.
So buy better RAM! Jeez!
Hard disks. Same problem: cheap or reliable. Your call.
So buy a better hard disk! Why is this a reason to switch to Macs?
I'm very happy with my mac, and it's well designed and built (and I've added good quality RAM and a couple of Seagate hard drives), but this guy could have gotten accomplished his goals without taking the drastic step of switching to a Macintosh.
He didn't specifically say buy a Mac. He said if you don't want to waste time dealing with viruses buy "something else." That could be a Mac or a PC with Intel Inside (TM) running Linux.
(Yes, I like my Mac with the dual G4 processors, but let's be honest about what Otellini's saying here)
I have some of my passwords written down, but usually no user IDs--there's just enough of a memory jogger for me to be able to log into the stuff I use.
I have a user ID and password posted on my wall in my cube. But it doesn't say what the ID and password will log you into--I remember, but no one else will be able to figure it out. I also have a password list that consists of a numbered list of my relatives' names--you could look at it and have no way of knowing it's a list of passwords, knowing which ones are in use, or what the passwords give you access to (and no user IDs either).
So I don't need to treat my passwords like $500 bills if I'm the only one who can figure out what they are.
If the PHBs have already decided to use RedHat, and their companies have already made the switch, why would Microsoft buying RedHat make them want to switch back to Windows? It would be much easier for them to just switch to another distro, like SuSE or Debian. From a risk mitigation standpoint, there should be virtually no difference between distros.
To be precise, there is no vendor lock-in with an iPod. There is vendor lock-in with the iTunes Music Store because of the DRM. My iPod has a couple of MP3s I downloaded; everything else I ripped from my CD collection. I'm not sure how popular iTMS is; I'm guessing it's not as popular as the iPod, based on my personal experience.
(By the way, isn't it really annoying when someone will say absolutely anything, even if it contradicts something they said earlier, depending on who they work for? Does someone who acts like that have any credibility?)
Sure, there are strong, often unbalanced, opinions about Mac vs. Windows vs. Unix. But you see that in a lot of other areas, too (like US politics, for example).
I can tell you based on my own personal experience:
OS X is great and meets my needs
Windows is less crappy than it used to be, but I would still not choose it for an operating system.
Steve Jobs has done a great job at Apple, but I would not want to work for him
I'm not surprised that he had a hissy fit and had all Wiley's books banned from Apple stores, and I don't think anyone else here that knows much about Apple is surprised either.
PS: Bill Gates HAS behaved like Steve Jobs. Remember his infamous interview with Connie Chung?
I'm a serious amateur that made the move last year. I bought a Canon DSLR because I already had a Canon film camera with Canon lenses that would work with the new digital camera.
If you don't have any Canon or Nikon lenses, you do have the freedom to choose either based on how Photoshop supports them (as well as other features). If you already have Canon or Nikon equipment, however, your decision will not be so simple.
It looks like you want an operating system that just works. Would you like to:
1. Hunt through a bunch of dialog boxes to turn on/off a specific setting?
2. Clean off a bunch of spyware?
3. Spend hours downloading and installing security patches?
4. Spend days reinstalling Windows because one feature you need on one application doesn't work right?
5. Figure out how to get rid of Clippy
Seriously, Apple doesn't have to say their operating system "just works." Mac users (including those of us on/.) do it for them. And if Allchin is talking about how Windows is going to "just work," it looks like he's a little late.
I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect my wireless phone to work in my home--it's where I am a significant portion of my day. I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect a wireless phone to work where people usually are--including in an office building, an elevator, or a tunnel. What's the point in having one otherwise?
When I worked for AT&T Wireless, my company provided phone didn't work at home. When I left AT&T Wireless, I switched to Verizon specifically because it DID work at home. And no matter what Seidberg says, if my phone quits working at home, I'm cancelling my service.
(Of course, I often go out hiking in the wilderness and don't expect my phone to work there--now that WOULD be unreasonable).
Because so many people here complained about the theme song, I made a point of watching the beginning of the show a few weeks ago (even though I'm a big fan of TOS and TNG--sorta--this was the only time I watched Enterprise)
You wanna know what the theme song reminded me of? Well, I'll tell you anyway--it sounded like the theme from an old TV show from the 70's, The Greatest American Hero. What sci-fi geek would watch a show with such a fluffy, wimpy theme song?
For those of you too young to remember that show, it's available on DVD now--be warned that burning this show onto DVDs is a tragic waste of plastic and computer power
The first two seasons of TOS and many of the TNG shows were science fiction at their best--stories that make a point about humanity and make you think. Doesn't sound like Enterprise was anything like that.
Tiger Woods promoting OS X and Paris Hilton promoting Linux? Could someone please hack into these two April Fools stories and swap the names? I'd much rather have Paris Hilton promoting OS X.
My company was bought recently, and is in the process of becoming a C# VisualStudio shop. I said thanks, but no thanks and left. Am I a fool for giving up steady work and good pay?"
Yes. Unless you have another job lined up, or the work environment is completely unbearable. Unless coding in C# with VisualStudio is about as bad as trying to develop applications using Notepad, that wouldn't qualify as an unbearable work environment.
I think it's the judge's way of telling SCO to put up or shut up. By not issuing partial summary judgement now, he's indicating that he's bending over backwards to keep an open mind, as judges are supposed to do. But the judge is also making it clear he's not going to keep an open mind too much longer.
(I used to work at AT&T Wireless until earlier this year and wound up porting my number to Verizon a week before I left--I couldn't use my phone at home even though I lived right next to two interstate freeways outside of Seattle).
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It sounds like this guy had an especially bad day at work--I don't see where he made his case for tossing out his PCs and switching to Mac. Let's take a closer look....
Windows is complex, trying to be everything to everyone.
True. Many mac apps, especially those from Apple, will sacrifice features to keep things simple. Other apps keep the complex stuff hidden behind the simple stuff.
When a new operating system or service pack is released, there are tons of changes to the functionality.
Yes, the updates I get from Apple seem to focus on bug fixes, while Microsoft seems to create these huge updates that add new features and often break old ones.
WinTel machines use different versions of BIOS. They are not all equal, nor do they all have the same level of compatibility.
Well, that's the price you pay for being able to buy PCs from a number of different manufacturers. Apple is the only source of macs, they control the BIOS and the quality. Sounds like a trade off.
Some Windows software applications are well written; others take shortcuts. Shortcuts may work in some environments, but not all, and ultimately the consumer pays in lost time, availability and productivity.
You could also say the same thing about Mac applications.
Hardware. There are hundreds of "WinTel-compatible" motherboards, each claiming to be better than the next. Whatever.
This is a reason to switch to macs?! He's complaining about security, then instead of going into more detail about that, he complains about hardware.
Memory. Not all RAM is equal. Some works well. Cheap stuff doesn't.
So buy better RAM! Jeez!
Hard disks. Same problem: cheap or reliable. Your call.
So buy a better hard disk! Why is this a reason to switch to Macs?
I'm very happy with my mac, and it's well designed and built (and I've added good quality RAM and a couple of Seagate hard drives), but this guy could have gotten accomplished his goals without taking the drastic step of switching to a Macintosh.
He didn't specifically say buy a Mac. He said if you don't want to waste time dealing with viruses buy "something else." That could be a Mac or a PC with Intel Inside (TM) running Linux.
(Yes, I like my Mac with the dual G4 processors, but let's be honest about what Otellini's saying here)
I have some of my passwords written down, but usually no user IDs--there's just enough of a memory jogger for me to be able to log into the stuff I use.
I have a user ID and password posted on my wall in my cube. But it doesn't say what the ID and password will log you into--I remember, but no one else will be able to figure it out. I also have a password list that consists of a numbered list of my relatives' names--you could look at it and have no way of knowing it's a list of passwords, knowing which ones are in use, or what the passwords give you access to (and no user IDs either).
So I don't need to treat my passwords like $500 bills if I'm the only one who can figure out what they are.
And "Microsoft" is a synonym for what, exactly?
"Boy that computer sure Microsofted--I had to actually unplug it and plug it back in to get it to work again."
If the PHBs have already decided to use RedHat, and their companies have already made the switch, why would Microsoft buying RedHat make them want to switch back to Windows? It would be much easier for them to just switch to another distro, like SuSE or Debian. From a risk mitigation standpoint, there should be virtually no difference between distros.
To be precise, there is no vendor lock-in with an iPod. There is vendor lock-in with the iTunes Music Store because of the DRM. My iPod has a couple of MP3s I downloaded; everything else I ripped from my CD collection. I'm not sure how popular iTMS is; I'm guessing it's not as popular as the iPod, based on my personal experience.
(By the way, isn't it really annoying when someone will say absolutely anything, even if it contradicts something they said earlier, depending on who they work for? Does someone who acts like that have any credibility?)
Yeah, sarcasm tags, that's a great idea...
Meh. Let's see 'em do a barrel roll with it like they did with the 707.
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http://www.aviationexplorer.com/707_roll_video.ht
Sure, there are strong, often unbalanced, opinions about Mac vs. Windows vs. Unix. But you see that in a lot of other areas, too (like US politics, for example).
I can tell you based on my own personal experience:
OS X is great and meets my needs
Windows is less crappy than it used to be, but I would still not choose it for an operating system.
Steve Jobs has done a great job at Apple, but I would not want to work for him
I'm not surprised that he had a hissy fit and had all Wiley's books banned from Apple stores, and I don't think anyone else here that knows much about Apple is surprised either.
PS: Bill Gates HAS behaved like Steve Jobs. Remember his infamous interview with Connie Chung?
I'm a serious amateur that made the move last year. I bought a Canon DSLR because I already had a Canon film camera with Canon lenses that would work with the new digital camera.
If you don't have any Canon or Nikon lenses, you do have the freedom to choose either based on how Photoshop supports them (as well as other features). If you already have Canon or Nikon equipment, however, your decision will not be so simple.
Which was used instead of:
I swear it worked yesterday
It might work
It WILL work if you reboot/reinstall this
It would have worked if you weren't such a dumb user
It looks like you want an operating system that just works. Would you like to:
/.) do it for them. And if Allchin is talking about how Windows is going to "just work," it looks like he's a little late.
1. Hunt through a bunch of dialog boxes to turn on/off a specific setting?
2. Clean off a bunch of spyware?
3. Spend hours downloading and installing security patches?
4. Spend days reinstalling Windows because one feature you need on one application doesn't work right?
5. Figure out how to get rid of Clippy
Seriously, Apple doesn't have to say their operating system "just works." Mac users (including those of us on
I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect my wireless phone to work in my home--it's where I am a significant portion of my day. I think it's perfectly reasonable to expect a wireless phone to work where people usually are--including in an office building, an elevator, or a tunnel. What's the point in having one otherwise?
When I worked for AT&T Wireless, my company provided phone didn't work at home. When I left AT&T Wireless, I switched to Verizon specifically because it DID work at home. And no matter what Seidberg says, if my phone quits working at home, I'm cancelling my service.
(Of course, I often go out hiking in the wilderness and don't expect my phone to work there--now that WOULD be unreasonable).
Because so many people here complained about the theme song, I made a point of watching the beginning of the show a few weeks ago (even though I'm a big fan of TOS and TNG--sorta--this was the only time I watched Enterprise)
You wanna know what the theme song reminded me of? Well, I'll tell you anyway--it sounded like the theme from an old TV show from the 70's, The Greatest American Hero. What sci-fi geek would watch a show with such a fluffy, wimpy theme song?
For those of you too young to remember that show, it's available on DVD now--be warned that burning this show onto DVDs is a tragic waste of plastic and computer power
The first two seasons of TOS and many of the TNG shows were science fiction at their best--stories that make a point about humanity and make you think. Doesn't sound like Enterprise was anything like that.
Here they are, a few more Apple stories:
Apple introduces zero-button mouse
Apple buys Microsoft, next version of Mac OS to be based on Longhorn
Apple introduces $99 iMac Shuffle--all the power of a Mac in a package the size of a stick of gum
Steve Jobs named CEO of Sony, Disney, AOL Time Warner, Viacom, and Dairy Queen
New Anti-April Fools Post pills...
....and cannot possibly be yet another April Fool's gag. I'm covering my keyboard with plastic right now!
(not)
Tiger Woods promoting OS X and Paris Hilton promoting Linux? Could someone please hack into these two April Fools stories and swap the names? I'd much rather have Paris Hilton promoting OS X.
My company was bought recently, and is in the process of becoming a C# VisualStudio shop. I said thanks, but no thanks and left. Am I a fool for giving up steady work and good pay?"
Yes. Unless you have another job lined up, or the work environment is completely unbearable. Unless coding in C# with VisualStudio is about as bad as trying to develop applications using Notepad, that wouldn't qualify as an unbearable work environment.
I think it's the judge's way of telling SCO to put up or shut up. By not issuing partial summary judgement now, he's indicating that he's bending over backwards to keep an open mind, as judges are supposed to do. But the judge is also making it clear he's not going to keep an open mind too much longer.
Mr. Vice President, is that you?
...in 2005, Slashdot users will continue to complain that Apple hardware is too expensive.
...and Slashdot users will continue to complain about Apple including a one-button mouse with macs.....
There was no immediate reply to an e-mail sent to Cash Link Systems on Saturday.
They should be getting plenty of replies any time now......
Yep. Might as well have the Spike TV Slashdot sig awards.
Sounds like your "Salescreature" was dealing with AWEs awful old GSM customer service system, which was supposed to be fixed by the Odyssey II project that was completely botched (http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/04/17/17142 27&tid=187&tid=100&tid=193). Now you know why they got bought out.
(I used to work at AT&T Wireless until earlier this year and wound up porting my number to Verizon a week before I left--I couldn't use my phone at home even though I lived right next to two interstate freeways outside of Seattle).