There is fact and there is belief. The two are orthogonal. "Dogma" used below means you are required to believe it. It's a sin not to. Where Dogma (the larger part of our beliefs are Tradition, not Dogma) contradicts observed facts, there is the concept of "Holy Mystery".
That's where Dogma contradicts facts and both are OK. It's a mystery that the human mind is not able to understand. You see these things and they are real. And Dogma (appears to) directly contradict those things and the Dogma is also real. You just can't understand it. BUT--IF you go to Heaven after you die, you will understand it then.
In 9th grade high school (St. Stanislaus in Bay St. Louis, MS), the Brothers taught us formal logic.
The Church is all about logic. Above, your contradiction is resolved: all neat and tidy, in a self-consistent (albeit tautological and non-falsifiable) manner. You have your answer, the discussion is closed. Next question?
Now, go debate a Jesuit if you still think you're so clever;)
Of course it will kill them; that's the idea. With net neutrality dead the robber barons get additional profits--always nice... And even better a barrier to entry.
Petitioning thieves not to steal isn't going to work. We need to kick them out and get new thieves whose interests are more aligned with our own.
Something about that movie. It doesn't explain everything to you like you're a moron? The heroes aren't 'better than'? The people are both romantic and realistic? John Lithgow is an AWESOME alien--on the big or the small screen. So what? Big deal.
tl;dr bitch bitch bitch--but to be honest--keep doing what y'all are doing; it's working.
Abstractions of abstractions of abstractions....you can't even see the first turtle from the top.
Yes, I understand we get some functionality for the price we pay--but it seems to be the way of the rocket--90% of your fuel is expended just accelerating your fuel. I've got (lemme see...) 12 VMs on my laptop right now--just because things don't play nice with other things or customers want development in specific versions. So--yeah--I have no illusions the complexity is going away.
But, for all the fancy crap, the functionality is basically the same: Operator touches the screen. Conveyor starts running and knife starts chopping. I click "send". Couple seconds later my Dad gets an email. Things were so much simpler back then, and we don't seem to have any real advance in function.
Of course, I don't have to install a separate print and screen driver for each program. And spend hours tweaking the EMM386 stuff in config.sys. and...and...and...
Well, that's the thing about nostalgia--some of our fondest memories never happened.
Then I am in good company, for I too am an asshole. Just not a "special kind of asshole".
Normally, I cite ESR, not RMS at the start of a project--this is a pretty effective way to demonstrate to the rest of the team the particular sort of asshole they're going to be dealing with.
Wife and I live in the boonies; satellite is slow and unreliable--but we do get a Verizon 4G signal. So... cancel satellite and just tether the phone?... They say 1 line $80/mo Unlimited...
But...then...they tell you a little more... [comments in brackets are mine].
4G LTE only. We may manage your network usage to ensure a quality experience for all customers [we will oversell it], and may prioritize your data [no net neutrality] behind some Verizon customers during times/places of network congestion [we will oversell it]. Not available for machine-to-machine services [not clearly defined]. Mobile hotspot/tethering reduced to 3G speeds after 10GB/month [not really unlimited]; domestic data roaming at 2G speeds [not really 4G either]. If more than 50% of your talk, text or data usage in a 60-day period is in Canada or Mexico [also not unlimited], use of those services in those countries may be removed or limited. Discounts not available.
For those who haven't heard the joke (it's an old one):
Tommy O’Connor went to confession and said, “Forgive me father for I have sinned.” “What have you done, Tommy O’Connor?” “I had sex with a girl.” ”Who was it, Tommy?” “I cannot tell you father, please forgive me for my sin.” ”Was it Mary Margaret Sullivan?” “No father, please forgive me for my sin but I cannot tell you who it was.” “Was it Catherine Mary McKenzie?” “No father, please forgive me for my sin.” “Well then it has to be Sarah Martha O’Keefe.” “No father, please forgive me, I cannot tell you who it was.” ”Okay, Tommy go say 5 Hail Mary’s and 4 Our Fathers and you will be absolved of your sin.”
So Tommy walked out to the pews where his friend Joseph was waiting.
“What did ya get?” asked Joseph. “Well I got 5 Hail Mary’s, 4 Our Fathers, and 3 good leads.”
Dilithium has the same sort of structure. If you want to cleave a dilithium crystal you have to whack it last month, hit it now, and tap it lightly a week from next tuesday.
Can't find the citation on memory alpha; must have been one of the novels.
On *rare* occasions I've had products not arrive. Stolen? Delivered to wrong address? Don't care. Until I receive the product from the vendor, this is NOT my problem. Investigating failures of the vendor's delivery agent is also NOT my problem.
Most vendors realize that delivery is not complete until they can show it was delivered. Most of them will also take the risk to ship without signature; it's more convenient for them and their customers are generally happier with it. But it's their risk. If the delivery fails, usually calling the vendor and complaining will cause them to "reship" the product and require a delivery signature. In the rare cases this doesn't work, the below has worked for me 100% of the time.
Last time I had to do this was over a year ago, with bogus hotel charges, not package delivery. Vendor did eventually do what they were supposed to, but not before the Visa dispute. They knew they were wrong and tried to run out the clock. When the dispute went through they refunded to avoid a ding from Visa.
The statement at the end gets Visa out of any liablity; they do NOT care. Because if you're committing fraud, the vendor can go after you.
On $Date I ordered and paid for $Product from $Vendor using Visa $AccountNo. The transaction ID for the purchase follows: $TID
By $Date, $Vendor has failed to deliver $Product.
On $Date I contacted $[email address or phone number], representing $Vendor. I explained that $Vendor has not delivered $Product after $Days and that the period to dispute the charge is running out, therefore I am following up the issue. $Vendor is unable to confirm they have delivered $Product to me, however $Vendor has refused to refund $Price or to agree to deliver $Product by $Date.
I have therefore made a good$faith effort to resolve the issue with $Vendor.
I dispute Visa charge of $Price to $Vendor. Refer to Transaction ID above.
I affirm under penalty of perjury that the above statements are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.
their house their rules. If you want good feedback, look at the reviews on several different websites. Amazon, Newegg, whatever. community sites? Maybe some of the folks at videohelp can point you in the right direction--it's not about TVs, but I'm thinking some of them might know what a TV is.
Too much trouble? Seriously--how long did it take you to earn the cost of that toy? Maybe spend 1% as much time researching how you're going to blow your money?
Still no guarantee but what do you expect when you go to the mfr's site?
bleah. WTF./.--you don't do unicode (yeah, yeah, I knew that; just forgot how hard you suck). fine, weiji "opportunity" + "danger" = crisis.
kinda douchey to quote pop wisdom from the 90s now I look at it so maybe/. is onto something. But still here I think it's appropriate. I guess it's better to be douchey and say what you mean than polite and meaningless.
That's how Turing tests (duck tests) work. If you can carry on a conversation with it and a human and you can't tell which is which...then you have AI.
Language encodes thought. From 1984's newspeak to fifty words (or whatever) for different kinds of snow, language defines how (if?) the language-user "thinks".
I find this development both exciting and frightening. The singularity will be . Don't know if this is it, but when it gets here it will be.
"Oooh, I'm so clever--I've found a trick to get something for no (or damned near little) effort, while actually contributing NOTHING of value." Fine. You better make *damned* sure you read *all* the rules.
These sorts of shenanigans are reserved for billionaires and large corporations. Folks who can afford high priced lawyers and high priced congresscritters. Not you.
They've found a cheap PLC they can exploit. Buy a decent PLC and you have a fair shot against something like this.
I was a PLC monkey (still am) when Stuxnet was new. Shortly afterward I watched one of my Clients, an automation manufacturer with a fairly decent market share migrate their critical products to signed firmware. Controllers, ethernet bridges, and industrial switches to start with, but it continues--there's signed firmware options for more and more of the available products.
You buy the products from an authorized reseller with unsigned firmware (if it's available) and if you want signed, you can flash it yourself. After that, there's no going back--from that point forward you can only flash signed firmware from the mfr.
You can still put bad things in the user code, but such is the nature of user programs. Those can be signed, fingerprinted, and locked too.
Of course none of that is "proof against" attackers, but a real PLC should certainly not be as vulnerable as an embedded controller from a terminal block manufacturer.
These Wago units run about 500 bucks. You can get cheaper units with built-in I/O from new places like plcdirect, or used from radwell. Heck, if you've got some patience you can get a "PLC" from aliexpress for less than fifty bucks. Won't have Ethernet, though. If I delivered a project to a Client built around any of that stuff, they would *not* pay me; they'd sue me.
It's going to cost you around $2K (depending on your multiplier, of course...) to get a modern micro PLC with included I/O from a real automation company--trust ain't cheap.
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
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Speaking as a (lapsed) Catholic here:
There is fact and there is belief. The two are orthogonal.
"Dogma" used below means you are required to believe it. It's a sin not to.
Where Dogma (the larger part of our beliefs are Tradition, not Dogma) contradicts observed facts, there is the concept of "Holy Mystery".
That's where Dogma contradicts facts and both are OK. It's a mystery that the human mind is not able to understand. You see these things and they are real. And Dogma (appears to) directly contradict those things and the Dogma is also real. You just can't understand it. BUT--IF you go to Heaven after you die, you will understand it then.
In 9th grade high school (St. Stanislaus in Bay St. Louis, MS), the Brothers taught us formal logic.
The Church is all about logic. Above, your contradiction is resolved: all neat and tidy, in a self-consistent (albeit tautological and non-falsifiable) manner. You have your answer, the discussion is closed. Next question?
Now, go debate a Jesuit if you still think you're so clever ;)
Of course it will kill them; that's the idea.
With net neutrality dead the robber barons get additional profits--always nice...
And even better a barrier to entry.
Petitioning thieves not to steal isn't going to work. We need to kick them out and get new thieves whose interests are more aligned with our own.
Something about that movie. It doesn't explain everything to you like you're a moron? The heroes aren't 'better than'?
The people are both romantic and realistic?
John Lithgow is an AWESOME alien--on the big or the small screen.
So what? Big deal.
Mama does not want justice. She wants QUIET.
Put another way--the courts need only dispense sufficient justice that most of us STFU and GBTW.
tl;dr bitch bitch bitch--but to be honest--keep doing what y'all are doing; it's working.
Abstractions of abstractions of abstractions....you can't even see the first turtle from the top.
Yes, I understand we get some functionality for the price we pay--but it seems to be the way of the rocket--90% of your fuel is expended just accelerating your fuel.
I've got (lemme see...) 12 VMs on my laptop right now--just because things don't play nice with other things or customers want development in specific versions.
So--yeah--I have no illusions the complexity is going away.
But, for all the fancy crap, the functionality is basically the same: Operator touches the screen. Conveyor starts running and knife starts chopping.
I click "send". Couple seconds later my Dad gets an email.
Things were so much simpler back then, and we don't seem to have any real advance in function.
Of course, I don't have to install a separate print and screen driver for each program.
And spend hours tweaking the EMM386 stuff in config.sys.
and...and...and...
Well, that's the thing about nostalgia--some of our fondest memories never happened.
Don't knock 'em--even assholes have a function...
They all come from the factory with a bomb.
Then I am in good company, for I too am an asshole. Just not a "special kind of asshole".
Normally, I cite ESR, not RMS at the start of a project--this is a pretty effective way to demonstrate to the rest of the team the particular sort of asshole they're going to be dealing with.
is a PLC monkey really a programmer?
Every time I read about stuff like this it just makes my day.
The meek will inherit the earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
Wife and I live in the boonies; satellite is slow and unreliable--but we do get a Verizon 4G signal. So... cancel satellite and just tether the phone?...
They say 1 line $80/mo Unlimited...
But...then...they tell you a little more... [comments in brackets are mine].
4G LTE only. We may manage your network usage to ensure a
quality experience for all customers [we will oversell it], and may prioritize your data
[no net neutrality] behind some Verizon customers during times/places of network
congestion [we will oversell it]. Not available for machine-to-machine services [not clearly defined].
Mobile hotspot/tethering reduced to 3G speeds after
10GB/month [not really unlimited]; domestic data roaming at 2G speeds [not really 4G either]. If more than 50% of
your talk, text or data usage in a 60-day period is in Canada or
Mexico [also not unlimited], use of those services in those countries may be
removed or limited. Discounts not available.
and Sal---maybe he ain't so bad after all ;)
For those who haven't heard the joke (it's an old one):
Tommy O’Connor went to confession and said, “Forgive me father for I have sinned.”
“What have you done, Tommy O’Connor?”
“I had sex with a girl.”
”Who was it, Tommy?”
“I cannot tell you father, please forgive me for my sin.”
”Was it Mary Margaret Sullivan?”
“No father, please forgive me for my sin but I cannot tell you who it was.”
“Was it Catherine Mary McKenzie?”
“No father, please forgive me for my sin.”
“Well then it has to be Sarah Martha O’Keefe.”
“No father, please forgive me, I cannot tell you who it was.”
”Okay, Tommy go say 5 Hail Mary’s and 4 Our Fathers and you will be absolved of your sin.”
So Tommy walked out to the pews where his friend Joseph was waiting.
“What did ya get?” asked Joseph.
“Well I got 5 Hail Mary’s, 4 Our Fathers, and 3 good leads.”
Dilithium has the same sort of structure.
If you want to cleave a dilithium crystal you have to whack it last month, hit it now, and tap it lightly a week from next tuesday.
Can't find the citation on memory alpha; must have been one of the novels.
Sorry--meanest mother...
http://mrmom.amaonline.com/poe...
Google "The meanest mama in the world."
Nice handle, btw. Seems apropos.
On *rare* occasions I've had products not arrive. Stolen? Delivered to wrong address? Don't care. Until I receive the product from the vendor, this is NOT my problem. Investigating failures of the vendor's delivery agent is also NOT my problem.
Most vendors realize that delivery is not complete until they can show it was delivered. Most of them will also take the risk to ship without signature; it's more convenient for them and their customers are generally happier with it. But it's their risk. If the delivery fails, usually calling the vendor and complaining will cause them to "reship" the product and require a delivery signature. In the rare cases this doesn't work, the below has worked for me 100% of the time.
Last time I had to do this was over a year ago, with bogus hotel charges, not package delivery. Vendor did eventually do what they were supposed to, but not before the Visa dispute. They knew they were wrong and tried to run out the clock. When the dispute went through they refunded to avoid a ding from Visa.
The statement at the end gets Visa out of any liablity; they do NOT care. Because if you're committing fraud, the vendor can go after you.
$Date
$Credit Card Issuer
$Address
cc/
$Vendor
$Address
Re: Visa $AccountNo: Dispute Transaction ID $TID
On $Date I ordered and paid for $Product from $Vendor using Visa $AccountNo.
The transaction ID for the purchase follows:
$TID
By $Date, $Vendor has failed to deliver $Product.
On $Date I contacted $[email address or phone number], representing $Vendor.
I explained that $Vendor has not delivered $Product after $Days and that the period to dispute the charge is running out, therefore I am following up the issue.
$Vendor is unable to confirm they have delivered $Product to me, however $Vendor has refused to refund $Price or to agree to deliver $Product by $Date.
I have therefore made a good$faith effort to resolve the issue with $Vendor.
I dispute Visa charge of $Price to $Vendor. Refer to Transaction ID above.
I affirm under penalty of perjury that the above statements are true and correct to the best of my knowledge.
Signature
Voting on what's for dinner. That's Democracy.
I agree with Lessig--Let the EC vote according to the constitution. However they damned well want to vote.
Next election there will be no Electoral College. Problem solved....
Unless you're one of the sheep.
their house their rules.
If you want good feedback, look at the reviews on several different websites. Amazon, Newegg, whatever. community sites? Maybe some of the folks at videohelp can point you in the right direction--it's not about TVs, but I'm thinking some of them might know what a TV is.
Too much trouble?
Seriously--how long did it take you to earn the cost of that toy? Maybe spend 1% as much time researching how you're going to blow your money?
Still no guarantee but what do you expect when you go to the mfr's site?
bleah. WTF. /.--you don't do unicode (yeah, yeah, I knew that; just forgot how hard you suck).
fine, weiji "opportunity" + "danger" = crisis.
kinda douchey to quote pop wisdom from the 90s now I look at it so maybe /. is onto something.
But still here I think it's appropriate. I guess it's better to be douchey and say what you mean than polite and meaningless.
That's how Turing tests (duck tests) work. If you can carry on a conversation with it and a human and you can't tell which is which...then you have AI.
Language encodes thought. From 1984's newspeak to fifty words (or whatever) for different kinds of snow, language defines how (if?) the language-user "thinks".
I find this development both exciting and frightening. The singularity will be . Don't know if this is it, but when it gets here it will be.
Die by the letter of the law.
"Oooh, I'm so clever--I've found a trick to get something for no (or damned near little) effort, while actually contributing NOTHING of value."
Fine. You better make *damned* sure you read *all* the rules.
These sorts of shenanigans are reserved for billionaires and large corporations.
Folks who can afford high priced lawyers and high priced congresscritters.
Not you.
They've found a cheap PLC they can exploit. Buy a decent PLC and you have a fair shot against something like this.
I was a PLC monkey (still am) when Stuxnet was new. Shortly afterward I watched one of my Clients, an automation manufacturer with a fairly decent market share migrate their critical products to signed firmware. Controllers, ethernet bridges, and industrial switches to start with, but it continues--there's signed firmware options for more and more of the available products.
You buy the products from an authorized reseller with unsigned firmware (if it's available) and if you want signed, you can flash it yourself.
After that, there's no going back--from that point forward you can only flash signed firmware from the mfr.
You can still put bad things in the user code, but such is the nature of user programs. Those can be signed, fingerprinted, and locked too.
Of course none of that is "proof against" attackers, but a real PLC should certainly not be as vulnerable as an embedded controller from a terminal block manufacturer.
These Wago units run about 500 bucks. You can get cheaper units with built-in I/O from new places like plcdirect, or used from radwell.
Heck, if you've got some patience you can get a "PLC" from aliexpress for less than fifty bucks. Won't have Ethernet, though.
If I delivered a project to a Client built around any of that stuff, they would *not* pay me; they'd sue me.
It's going to cost you around $2K (depending on your multiplier, of course...) to get a modern micro PLC with included I/O from a real automation company--trust ain't cheap.
http://www.salon.com/2002/08/2...
Sorry about the autoplay crap, but that's where he published it.
Here's another link if you prefer
http://will.tip.dhappy.org/blo...
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.