Its possible to set up a root password using the NetInfo config utility, which unlocks 'su' on a OS X Client machine, OS X Server comes with 'su' unlocked by default. Log in as root from the log in screen is still disabled after unlocking 'su' though I believe.
As for sudo, its this simple, don't let people log in as admin if you're worried about security. If you are the type that knows how to use sudo, odds are you know enough to keep yourself from fubaring the system anyways, and even if you do, reinstall isn't that hard.
Besides, you're perfectly capable of doing most things you need to from a regular account. The point of admin level access isn't to make the machine 100% secure, its to have cursory security from the users to make sure that they can't easily delete their system folder, or anything of the sort.
What Steve Jobs did had nothing to do with processors, at all. In case you didn't notice Apple doesn't make any CPUs, currently that's all done by IBM.
And last I checked it wasn't IBM that's taking marketshare away from Intel, not yet at least.
If you really want a Mac without Mac OS, I've got an old iMac running Gentoo. It's yours for $500.
And yet, you still paid for a license of MacOS when you bought the computer.
After all, what makes a Mac worth the extra bucks is the software, not the hardware. If all you want is a PPC based system IBM will be happy to supply you with one, granted at a much higher price then the system you'd get from Apple.
>>I do however, know plenty of people (my parents included) who don't see a need for board band, but still go to blockbuster to rent a dvd every once and a while.
Ok living in Silicon Valley this might be a bad example, but I've had at most 3 big-chain video rental places (1 Hollywood Video, 2 Blockbuster) within 4 miles of my house, the closest one being the Hollywood Video that was open for maybe two years. The blockbuster that was open for well over a decade, I'm sure longer but I've only lived in this area that long, closed down a couple months ago. Why?
Granted we were never overly happy with Blockbuster, but the thing that really changed it was getting Sattelite TV, which we've now had for 7 or so years. While not perfect Pay-Per-View on Sattelite TV (DirecTV in this case) tends to be much easier then going to a rental place, and new movies start every half hour anyways, so time is rarely an issue.
Even more recently when we got a Tivo we would just order the PPV movie, have Tivo grab it and then start watching it back at our leisure, and because its sitting on the Tivo we can watch it back for practically however long we feel like. Most of the movies we rarely watch back more then twice, and even more rarely after the first weekend we get them. If I have enough interest I pick up the DVD.
And many DVDs for older movies run for around $10 at Fry's, compared to the $6.50 Blockbuster would charge me to rent it for a week. The extra $3.50 was typically more then worth it for me to never have to bother with returning it, not to mention if I ever feel like watching the movie again.
Did you bother to read? OS X has nowhere near the level of File Server functionality of OS X Server. File/Print server is present in both WinXP Home, Pro and Mac OSX and OS X Server. What level of functionality though is up in the air.
Adding a File Share is a much more ardous task in OS X then it is in XP.
However there are Open Directory Client functions available in OS X, but MS took out many of the Active Directory client functions in XP Home. So where you want to place the two is debatable, but OS X Client's GUI implementation of File Sharing, print sharing, ftp, ssh, samba, etc. is far from being full-featured.
Win2k can talk in AppleTalk, how it differs from AFP I'm not 100% sure, I'm not sure if the functionality was taken out of XP either.
But most home users aren't going to be setting up server apps, however having a full-fledged file sharing server can come in handy.
The point was in many cases you were adding software that wasn't anywhere near one-to-one equivalence to try to inflate the price, just to appease some size insecurity you have. Point is its more then possible to build a functional $500 Windows Box. If you're going to get down to the age of the hardware found in the Mac Mini it becomes considerably cheaper.
You spec'd out XP Home, an intentionally limited "discount" and "lite" version of the OS. So, let's just replace that with the real version of the OS: XP Pro, $153.95 from New Egg. $60 more, and you've already lost, 'cause you're over $500 now.
Just like OS X is a stripped down version of OS X Server. Don't believe me? Compare the file sharing options between OS X, OS X Server, WinXP Home and WinXP Pro. Functionality-wise (in terms of File Sharing, User and Computer management. Not in terms of usability.) Mac OS X (non-Server) and WinXP Home are roughly equivalent. WinXP Pro would be somewhere between Mac OS X and OS X Server in terms of functionality.
add in a copy of Office to compete with Appleworks ($250)
Office is hardly the functional counterpart for Appleworks. More like Microsoft Works, which is old and truly does not work very well, which in many ways is akin to the fairly old AppleWorks. Which can be gotten for $30 off of newegg.com.
Nice giant case, too. Look at the comments in the reviews on New Egg - they say it would be nice if it could be quieter... and that's with the 1 fan in the side. You really think that one fan, plus the one on the power supply, is gonna keep that AMD 64 cool? So, toss in $20 for some more fans, plus another $20-50 for sound dampeners, fan controllers, etc. to try to get it down to the 22 dBA of the Mac Mini. And then fail to do so.
The biggest difference here is that an AMD64 is a year old, while the G4s have been around for 5+ years now. The first 1.25 Ghz G4s appeared in 2002. Since then IBM has had quite a bit of time to get the chip more power efficient and cooler. Realistically a comparison to a Centrino chip, or a Geode, being put into a Desktop box would be a little more accurate.
a licensed copy of Acrobat Distiller so that you can create PDFs (it's built in on the Mac)
A quick look on Google or Download.com will return plenty of alternatives for creating PDFs.
a copy of Adobe Premiere Express to compete with iMovie ($200)
Windows XP comes with Movie Editing software. Really really awful movie editing software that's nowhere near as nice as iMovie, but still its there.
Now you just have to wait for a 64-bit version of Windows.
And you still have to wait for a 64-bit version of MacOS too. (Panther is not 64-bit, however unlike Windows it will allow 64-bit apps to take advantage of the 64-bit features of a G5. Tiger will be the first truly 64-bit version of MacOS)
Of course lets not forget that the G4 is not a 64-bit processor either.
If you are going to argue over which OS has a bigger dick you might as well stick to accurate arguments.
Mac OS X for many users is much easier to use. Its much nicer on the users and its interface is highly functional and robust while still being intuitive. (Opinion, but harder to disprove) And of course Security problems are much fewer on Mac OS X. My younger brother on a PC can overload it with so many viruses and spyware that it becomes barely usable within a week. Put him on a Mac and its much harder for him to screw it up, the lifespan is measured in years instead of days.
More then just GUI wise. Although there were a number of significant improvements in Panther over Jaguar. Expose and network browsing to name a couple. But OS X is one of the few OSes I've used where I've felt where the command line was just as functional as the GUI. Windows often feels lacking in that respect, not to mention some of the clunkiness found in the DOS/Windows command line over *nix variants.
Although the biggest thing for me on a mac is still a one-button mouse. While most functionality is on the left button, if you plug in a two+ button mouse into a mac you'll find that the right mouse button behaves more or less like how you would expect it to, and not having it makes you feel like you're missing something, even though you can control-click still. Seeing how many mac users hook up PC mice to their Macs now I don't see why Apple can't just start shipping Macs with two-button mice.
I wouldn't think it would be that much of a stretch to get the Tivo software working on a Mac with extra hardware for the MPEG-2 encoding and TV Tuners anyways. Not to mention it would probably work very well with the home video strategy Apple is pursuing on their desktops.
What makes you think its just Americans that pay to play these games?
I've known plenty of Germans, Australians and Koreans on the US servers playing DAoC... not to mention the European DAoC servers... ( http://camelot-europe.goa.com/en/index.htm )
Except that a G4 is 32-bit and a G5 is 64-bit and Apple would rather have their faster machines on the 64-bit platform that they will eventually have all supported macs on...
I find it really surprising that there wouldn't be more tapes of this floating around somewhere. And that it would wind up in Germany of all places.
The theatre is the Flint Center at De Anza College in Cupertino. A whole 3 blocks away from the current Apple World HQ. Other places on the net I know will confirm this.
However DA is a fairly wired school. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a tape of that laying around somewhere at DA right now. Not to mention something sitting at Apple...
More likely this is just the first time anyone has cared to post a video of the original debut of the Mac on the web.
Unfortunately the G3s I have access to are all on the older end (500 MHz and slower) and the G4 and G5 I play with is significantly faster, thus the assumption tying CPU and 3D card.
... Really. How much 3D are you going to stuff on a display that except in a very few rare cases isn't able to display more then two dimensions?
Mac OS X makes use of some 3D hardware for slight tricks when the hardware is there (on a G4 or G5 it will use a rotating box effect when logging in or switching users, on a G3 it won't) and I'm sure there's some acceleration used in Expose to move windows around although that works on all the macs I've tried it on, but what exactly could they possibly do 3D wise that would make me want to switch from the classic interface circa Windows 2000 that I use on every box with WinXP on it that I have and will most likely use on any longhorn box I get in the future.
'That' only has "Intel Extreme Grahpics" with shared memory, a far cry from the Radeon 9200 in the Mac Mini.
'That' only has a CD-ROM drive. The Mac Mini has a DVD/CD-RW combo drive.
'That' has no firewire port.
The Mac Mini also comes with iMovies, iPhoto and GarageBand, a full suite of multimedia applications to take advantage of that firewire port.
And the Mac mini is at least less then a third the size of the Gateway box.
Oh and the G4 is at least comparable to a Celeron, although for most of the applications users will use these things for they are not likely to notice the difference between them. As for the 17" CRT, throw in another $80 for that, assuming the user doesn't already have a monitor laying around, which Apple is assuming (most likely correctly, as they're targetting these towards people looking to replace their PCs) they do.
The Mac Mini has no screw holes. At least none that I was able to see. A couple of us were looking at one today trying to figure out how to open the sucker;)
I've been using Macs with only 256 MB of RAM in em and they've worked fine for what I do with them at work. Email. Surf the Web. Meeting Scheduling Software. Word Processing. Remote Desktop, Terminal and some other various buisness apps. All running at the same time with little to no problem. In all fairness I haven't tried any real multimedia tasks, then I could see the use of 1 GB, and is the reason why I have 1 GB of RAM in my home PC.
For many users I think 256 MB will be fine, or the $75 upgrade to 512 MB. You can still fully enjoy MacOS with that amount. However it is worthwhile to note that Tiger will require 256 MB of RAM.
I just started working at Apple meaning for the first time in well over six years I'm using Macs on a daily basis.
I've been suprised how much I don't notice there not being a second mouse-button, and in rare cases control-click works fairly well too. In all fairness I'm not doing any graphics work or anything of the sort on those macs. I do that at home on my PC with my 5 button mouse, which probably would work with a Mac too. MacOS has had support for two-button mice for quite a while if I remember right, its just that not many people hook up a 2 button mouse to MacOS.
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Its possible to set up a root password using the NetInfo config utility, which unlocks 'su' on a OS X Client machine, OS X Server comes with 'su' unlocked by default. Log in as root from the log in screen is still disabled after unlocking 'su' though I believe.
As for sudo, its this simple, don't let people log in as admin if you're worried about security. If you are the type that knows how to use sudo, odds are you know enough to keep yourself from fubaring the system anyways, and even if you do, reinstall isn't that hard.
Besides, you're perfectly capable of doing most things you need to from a regular account. The point of admin level access isn't to make the machine 100% secure, its to have cursory security from the users to make sure that they can't easily delete their system folder, or anything of the sort.
What Steve Jobs did had nothing to do with processors, at all. In case you didn't notice Apple doesn't make any CPUs, currently that's all done by IBM.
And last I checked it wasn't IBM that's taking marketshare away from Intel, not yet at least.
And yet, you still paid for a license of MacOS when you bought the computer.
After all, what makes a Mac worth the extra bucks is the software, not the hardware. If all you want is a PPC based system IBM will be happy to supply you with one, granted at a much higher price then the system you'd get from Apple.
The day you can buy a Mac without MacOS being on it is the day when you can say that its not an upgrade in that box.
No, it will not be DVD only.
>>I do however, know plenty of people (my parents included) who don't see a need for board band, but still go to blockbuster to rent a dvd every once and a while.
Ok living in Silicon Valley this might be a bad example, but I've had at most 3 big-chain video rental places (1 Hollywood Video, 2 Blockbuster) within 4 miles of my house, the closest one being the Hollywood Video that was open for maybe two years. The blockbuster that was open for well over a decade, I'm sure longer but I've only lived in this area that long, closed down a couple months ago. Why?
Granted we were never overly happy with Blockbuster, but the thing that really changed it was getting Sattelite TV, which we've now had for 7 or so years. While not perfect Pay-Per-View on Sattelite TV (DirecTV in this case) tends to be much easier then going to a rental place, and new movies start every half hour anyways, so time is rarely an issue.
Even more recently when we got a Tivo we would just order the PPV movie, have Tivo grab it and then start watching it back at our leisure, and because its sitting on the Tivo we can watch it back for practically however long we feel like. Most of the movies we rarely watch back more then twice, and even more rarely after the first weekend we get them. If I have enough interest I pick up the DVD.
And many DVDs for older movies run for around $10 at Fry's, compared to the $6.50 Blockbuster would charge me to rent it for a week. The extra $3.50 was typically more then worth it for me to never have to bother with returning it, not to mention if I ever feel like watching the movie again.
Most of the Wells Fargo ATMs I've seen recently, are Diebold machines.
I would imagine that Diebold was the one who made the decision to go to Windows.
Did you bother to read? OS X has nowhere near the level of File Server functionality of OS X Server. File/Print server is present in both WinXP Home, Pro and Mac OSX and OS X Server. What level of functionality though is up in the air.
Adding a File Share is a much more ardous task in OS X then it is in XP.
However there are Open Directory Client functions available in OS X, but MS took out many of the Active Directory client functions in XP Home. So where you want to place the two is debatable, but OS X Client's GUI implementation of File Sharing, print sharing, ftp, ssh, samba, etc. is far from being full-featured.
Win2k can talk in AppleTalk, how it differs from AFP I'm not 100% sure, I'm not sure if the functionality was taken out of XP either.
But most home users aren't going to be setting up server apps, however having a full-fledged file sharing server can come in handy.
The point was in many cases you were adding software that wasn't anywhere near one-to-one equivalence to try to inflate the price, just to appease some size insecurity you have. Point is its more then possible to build a functional $500 Windows Box. If you're going to get down to the age of the hardware found in the Mac Mini it becomes considerably cheaper.
Just like OS X is a stripped down version of OS X Server. Don't believe me? Compare the file sharing options between OS X, OS X Server, WinXP Home and WinXP Pro. Functionality-wise (in terms of File Sharing, User and Computer management. Not in terms of usability.) Mac OS X (non-Server) and WinXP Home are roughly equivalent. WinXP Pro would be somewhere between Mac OS X and OS X Server in terms of functionality.
add in a copy of Office to compete with Appleworks ($250) Office is hardly the functional counterpart for Appleworks. More like Microsoft Works, which is old and truly does not work very well, which in many ways is akin to the fairly old AppleWorks. Which can be gotten for $30 off of newegg.com.
Nice giant case, too. Look at the comments in the reviews on New Egg - they say it would be nice if it could be quieter... and that's with the 1 fan in the side. You really think that one fan, plus the one on the power supply, is gonna keep that AMD 64 cool? So, toss in $20 for some more fans, plus another $20-50 for sound dampeners, fan controllers, etc. to try to get it down to the 22 dBA of the Mac Mini. And then fail to do so.
The biggest difference here is that an AMD64 is a year old, while the G4s have been around for 5+ years now. The first 1.25 Ghz G4s appeared in 2002. Since then IBM has had quite a bit of time to get the chip more power efficient and cooler. Realistically a comparison to a Centrino chip, or a Geode, being put into a Desktop box would be a little more accurate.
a licensed copy of Acrobat Distiller so that you can create PDFs (it's built in on the Mac)
A quick look on Google or Download.com will return plenty of alternatives for creating PDFs.
a copy of Adobe Premiere Express to compete with iMovie ($200)
Windows XP comes with Movie Editing software. Really really awful movie editing software that's nowhere near as nice as iMovie, but still its there.
Now you just have to wait for a 64-bit version of Windows.
And you still have to wait for a 64-bit version of MacOS too. (Panther is not 64-bit, however unlike Windows it will allow 64-bit apps to take advantage of the 64-bit features of a G5. Tiger will be the first truly 64-bit version of MacOS)
Of course lets not forget that the G4 is not a 64-bit processor either.
If you are going to argue over which OS has a bigger dick you might as well stick to accurate arguments.
Mac OS X for many users is much easier to use. Its much nicer on the users and its interface is highly functional and robust while still being intuitive. (Opinion, but harder to disprove) And of course Security problems are much fewer on Mac OS X. My younger brother on a PC can overload it with so many viruses and spyware that it becomes barely usable within a week. Put him on a Mac and its much harder for him to screw it up, the lifespan is measured in years instead of days.
More then just GUI wise. Although there were a number of significant improvements in Panther over Jaguar. Expose and network browsing to name a couple. But OS X is one of the few OSes I've used where I've felt where the command line was just as functional as the GUI. Windows often feels lacking in that respect, not to mention some of the clunkiness found in the DOS/Windows command line over *nix variants.
Although the biggest thing for me on a mac is still a one-button mouse. While most functionality is on the left button, if you plug in a two+ button mouse into a mac you'll find that the right mouse button behaves more or less like how you would expect it to, and not having it makes you feel like you're missing something, even though you can control-click still. Seeing how many mac users hook up PC mice to their Macs now I don't see why Apple can't just start shipping Macs with two-button mice.
You got your operating systems confused... You would just hear a couple odd tones and some obscure error number instead.
Weren't the S1 Tivos using PPC chips anyways?
I wouldn't think it would be that much of a stretch to get the Tivo software working on a Mac with extra hardware for the MPEG-2 encoding and TV Tuners anyways. Not to mention it would probably work very well with the home video strategy Apple is pursuing on their desktops.
No, now they'll conviently put the retina burning iPod commercials on the Tivo menu for you ;)
What makes you think its just Americans that pay to play these games?
I've known plenty of Germans, Australians and Koreans on the US servers playing DAoC... not to mention the European DAoC servers... ( http://camelot-europe.goa.com/en/index.htm )
The answer would be 100% of them.
Apple recently gave out iPod shuffles to all their employees.
Aren't Norway, Sweden and Finland Socialist democracies?
Except that a G4 is 32-bit and a G5 is 64-bit and Apple would rather have their faster machines on the 64-bit platform that they will eventually have all supported macs on...
I find it really surprising that there wouldn't be more tapes of this floating around somewhere. And that it would wind up in Germany of all places.
The theatre is the Flint Center at De Anza College in Cupertino. A whole 3 blocks away from the current Apple World HQ. Other places on the net I know will confirm this.
However DA is a fairly wired school. I'd be surprised if there wasn't a tape of that laying around somewhere at DA right now. Not to mention something sitting at Apple...
More likely this is just the first time anyone has cared to post a video of the original debut of the Mac on the web.
Yea... but could they put my calculus homework in FPS form! That's what I want to know.
Would never not get my homework done again.
Unfortunately the G3s I have access to are all on the older end (500 MHz and slower) and the G4 and G5 I play with is significantly faster, thus the assumption tying CPU and 3D card.
... Really. How much 3D are you going to stuff on a display that except in a very few rare cases isn't able to display more then two dimensions?
Mac OS X makes use of some 3D hardware for slight tricks when the hardware is there (on a G4 or G5 it will use a rotating box effect when logging in or switching users, on a G3 it won't) and I'm sure there's some acceleration used in Expose to move windows around although that works on all the macs I've tried it on, but what exactly could they possibly do 3D wise that would make me want to switch from the classic interface circa Windows 2000 that I use on every box with WinXP on it that I have and will most likely use on any longhorn box I get in the future.
'That' only has "Intel Extreme Grahpics" with shared memory, a far cry from the Radeon 9200 in the Mac Mini.
'That' only has a CD-ROM drive. The Mac Mini has a DVD/CD-RW combo drive.
'That' has no firewire port.
The Mac Mini also comes with iMovies, iPhoto and GarageBand, a full suite of multimedia applications to take advantage of that firewire port.
And the Mac mini is at least less then a third the size of the Gateway box.
Oh and the G4 is at least comparable to a Celeron, although for most of the applications users will use these things for they are not likely to notice the difference between them. As for the 17" CRT, throw in another $80 for that, assuming the user doesn't already have a monitor laying around, which Apple is assuming (most likely correctly, as they're targetting these towards people looking to replace their PCs) they do.
The Mac Mini has no screw holes. At least none that I was able to see. A couple of us were looking at one today trying to figure out how to open the sucker ;)
I've been using Macs with only 256 MB of RAM in em and they've worked fine for what I do with them at work. Email. Surf the Web. Meeting Scheduling Software. Word Processing. Remote Desktop, Terminal and some other various buisness apps. All running at the same time with little to no problem. In all fairness I haven't tried any real multimedia tasks, then I could see the use of 1 GB, and is the reason why I have 1 GB of RAM in my home PC.
For many users I think 256 MB will be fine, or the $75 upgrade to 512 MB. You can still fully enjoy MacOS with that amount. However it is worthwhile to note that Tiger will require 256 MB of RAM.
I just started working at Apple meaning for the first time in well over six years I'm using Macs on a daily basis.
I've been suprised how much I don't notice there not being a second mouse-button, and in rare cases control-click works fairly well too. In all fairness I'm not doing any graphics work or anything of the sort on those macs. I do that at home on my PC with my 5 button mouse, which probably would work with a Mac too. MacOS has had support for two-button mice for quite a while if I remember right, its just that not many people hook up a 2 button mouse to MacOS.