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Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger to Arrive in April
Silly Burrito writes "Think Secret is reporting that Tiger will be out in April with an event on April 1st and it should be out in stores by April 15th. If this is true, I can finally get both the Mini and a new Powerbook, as I've been waiting for Tiger to be released before I do so. Let's just hope that this isn't a bad April Fools Joke!"
which powerbook are you thinking of getting?
Does the ensuing release mean they'll stop suing people that revealed details about Tiger prematurely?
I'm a big tall mofo.
Safari team is getting ready for a new Webcore release too. So Safari 2.0 is near that means Tiger is coming soon.
Never learn by your mistakes, if you do you may never dare to try again
Let's just hope that this isn't a bad April Fools Joke!
Not likely, since it's only March...
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You don't wanna get sued for posting trade secrets.
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I wonder if Apple will delay the release because of this leak? That'd suck!
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I miss those plugins.
..don't panic
Tiger April 1st, and new dual core G5s June 10th. Yippee. Christmas won't suck this year.
I've been saving some dough for the post WWDC buy-a-thon.
Why is this being taken as fact? Do the editors believe Think Secret to be a reputable news source that knows the exact release date for a given product? Has this information been confirmed by the vendor itself?
No. It's a rumor. Don't state it as fact - it pisses me off. The headline is not just misleading, it could be entirely misinformation.
Remove head from ass, then post.
apple would offer the free upgrade if you bought a PB within a month of tiger coming out. they're pretty good about that. though i'm still waiting for the g5 PB's.
My problem? I was perfectly gruntled, until some numbnuts came by and dissed me.
Isn't Tiger going to be a DVD only release? So people who have iBooks without a combo driver are stuck.
Can you boot from an external USB/FW device?
That it's mentioned on on april fools, and released on tax day?
I don't get it.
I think Tiger might tip me to the Apple side again, after being a Win 95/98/NT/XP user for a while. ITConversations.com ran an interview with the senior product line manager. There's no video, but it was interesting to hear him walk through the new features.
This is from someone typing on an Apple PowerBook btw - I do like Apple's products, but not always the company's actions.
Get a free iPod Nano 4GB!
Someone refresh my memory: doesn't Mac offer free upgrades for all Macs bought sufficiently close to the new version's release date? If this is the case, how close is close enough?
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Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger to arrive in April
By Ryan Katz, Senior Editor
March 11, 2005 - Apple will officially announce Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger's release at an event in early April and will begin shipping the operating system within two or three weeks afterwards, Think Secret has learned. Apple has previously only stated that Tiger will ship during the first half of the 2005.
The event, sources say, is currently scheduled for Friday, April 1 and will be delivered via satellite to numerous locations around the world. Unknown at this point is where the event will take place and whether the media or other outsiders will be invited to attend. Well placed sources say Tiger will likely be in stores by April 15.
Multiple pieces of information gleaned from sources in recent weeks have pointed to an April release date for Tiger. Apple has doubled the software metrics for stores and resellers for the second quarter, ending May 31, for example. While several new software titles slated for release at NAB on April 18 will boost software revenue for stores, Tiger will be the jewel that Apple expects will allow resellers to double their sales from the first quarter.
At least one of Apple's new pro apps the company will introduce at NAB will also require Tiger, sources say. Additionally, Apple is currently targeting updates to its iMac G5 and eMac systems for mid-April, which will come pre-installed with Tiger and iLife '05 (see related story).
In recent weeks, Apple has significantly increased the frequency of Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger builds released to developers, another indication that development is rapidly wrapping up. Earlier this week, a gaffe on Apple's Mac OS X downloads page also listed three new categories pertaining to Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger: links to "Automater Actions," "Dashboard Widgets," and "Spotlight Plugins" all lead to pages that were not yet available at apple.com. Apple has since removed those links from the categories listing.
Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger will sell for $129 and has been billed as the most substantial upgrade to Mac OS X since the operating system debuted.
QuickTime 7 will also be released with Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger, sources say. A Mac OS X 10.3-compatible version, code-named Gibson, will be released around the same time.
trump the free speech rights of independent journalists.
The US Constitution says that Congress shall Enact No Law regarding freedom of speech and of the press.
This has in no way, shape, or form, by any stretch of the imagination, been violated AT ALL by Apple's demand that an "independent journalist's" source be revealed. Sorry.
People seem to interpret the Constitution to say all sorts of things that it doesn't actually say.
It looks like you're voicing a dissenting opinion.
What would you like to do?
* Go to your nearest LUG meeting for reprogramming.
* Buy a large number of Apple stocks in atonement.
* Get bitchslapped.
* Get modded up now as Interesting and modded down later as Troll.
April 1st is the beginning of Apple's fiscal year, so that wouldn't be a surprising release date.
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Why should free speech trump the rights of an individual or a company to use a contract to keep information private?
Or maybe some of us are able to be somewhat rational? Personally, if Microsoft had been in Apple's shoes, I'd have felt the same way about the ThinkSecret case, and I'm anything but a Microsoft appologist (IE: I firmly believe the DoJ should have broken up the company).
The Apple vs Does case is more about reaffirming trade secret law that's already on the books and has already been affirmed by the courts many, many times. So no, I don't really see it as a 'victory against journalism.' No one is facing penalties for what they've printed at this point - and this isn't exactly a whistle blower case that deserves special privelege. But feel free to check my comment history on the subject - I've been consistent in my viewpoint and after reading the judge's opinion yesterday, I seem to have had it about pegged.
On topic, Tiger's looking to be a rather interesting release. Apple's putting metadata to good use with Spotlight, and I'm interested to see how Dashboard's ended up looking. The real story, I think, may end up being the behind the scenes part of the OS - CoreImage. It truly opens the door for a first-party Apple Photoshop killer, if Adobe refuses to adopt the interface. Remember iMovie and FCP are only really around because Adobe declined to make a good consumer oriented video editing system, so Apple did it themselves. Could we be seeing this happen again?
Lots of software announcements happen on April Fools Day.
No electrons were harmed creating this post, though some may have been subjected to electrical and/or magnetic fields.
Apple is famous for nutty release days and other things.
:)
Feel free to add your own, I'm sure I'm not alone.
Nice to see the old fun is back.
My question is: Will their JDK 1.5 port going to be ready?
It sounded like it wasn't very far along, and I need my hot OpenGL-accelerated Tiger-on-Tiger action.
Why would you buy a laptop with just an OS update. This is so strange about MAC fans. I would refuse to buy it until they get a g5 in it as well as the new OS.
I agree!
Typical for the American Press is to use the "Freedom of speech"-trumpet to trample all over your legal rights: Privacy, Non-disclosure agreements, R&D Secrecy.
That said, I'm very keen on trying out Tiger Server, with full Access Control Lists (at last!).
...and you can do it all while sitting in a dark basement too!
Is it possible that multiple people read /. each with their own opinions and beliefs?
oh please. some dude with a blog spouting off what his cat did today does not a journalist make....
nick at think secret is a rumor monger. not a jounralist.
please don't lump this case in the same class as the Pentagon Papers. You perform a diservice to real journalists and all our rights when you do..
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FYI, the Tiger pages at Apple have been updated recently.
:)
Here's a nice tour of the features.
In my opinion, most of the new features in Tiger are more developer-friendly than end-user-friendly, but that's OK, because I think you're going to see some incredible apps come out that use Core Image, Core Video, and Spotlight. Those apps should be what make you want Tiger, not Tiger itself. Out of all the new stuff in Tiger I think the new Mail.app is the best. People spend their work day in e-mail, and the new mail.app looks incredible.
Don't forget Tiger Server. It's a really nice update. New ACL system, 64-bit native, iChat Server (using Jabber), weblog server, and a new software update server. The most interesting feature to me is the new Portable Home Directories. Mac OS X clients will be able to have a home directory on their laptop, and it will trickle sync the home directory with the network when you are connected to your office server.
Personally, I don't believe the ThinkSecret rumor for a second. Apple is *way* too marketing savvy to release a product on April Fool's Day. Also, April 1 is a Friday. Apple almost always announces products on Tuesday.
- Todd
- "When you want something with all your heart, the entire universe conspires to give it to you" -Paulo Coelho
>> OSX isn't a "free" (as in speech) operating system. It may
>> be based on a Unix-like foundation, but thats on excuse.
>> We should be promoting Free software, not closed.
Why? What makes you believe all this rubbish?
Perhaps you have Slashdot confused with some other web site.
My bet is that you used a commercial for-profit ISP to connect to Slashdot in the first place, utilizing hardware that was manufactured by companies who's products also aren't "free" (as in speech).
My guess is that the doctor who snatched you from your mother's womb was, likewise, not "free" (as in speech).
Quit being silly.
so many loyal slashdotters were welcoming Apple's victory against journalism?
If you had actually read any of the articles or bothered to spend 10 minutes informing yourself on the topic, you would realize that in fact Apple had not scored a "victory against journalism", but instead had won the right to subpeona records in order to determine how information was illegally obtained.
The judge stated, quite rationally, that it didn't matter if the bloggers at the center of the case were journalists or not, for even journalists lack the right to publish trade secrets that do not benefit the public interest. More to the point, the judge stated that interest by the public is not the same as public interest.
So if you want to go on being misinformed, then please be my guest and don't read the articles. But at least have the decency to do so quietly and not spread FUD around the internets.
People who say "sheeple" have about as much sophistication as an AOL user, and in fact are probably actually AOL users.
Free speech is not a free pass to break the law.
Apple... um... didn't win against journalism. Hell, the fact that bloggers are or are not journalists didn't even enter the equation there. The Judge left that to Daily Show skits and CNN talking heads.
Heck, Apple didn't even really try and stop Nick from posting Apple-related news. What they did do is compel him to reveal his sources, which were illegally sharing Trade Secrets.
This was pretty clear from, you know, the fucking artciles linked of the thread you posted.
Crawl back in your hole.
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I was going to say "you must be new here" until I noticed your uid. :)
I sometimes think the same thing, but then I realize that the people who comment on stuff in general are those with strong opinions either way.
So when I see people bitching about a gpl violation, and in the next article see people advocating downloading music from p2p sites, I guess I just assume that they are different people. I guess I don't try to assume that every reader shares the values of "the collective".
I do find it interesting that there are so many Apple apologists though. It might be because the "Apple People" follow the apple articles the most and post most aggressively in their defense, while "The PC People" don't really follow the Apple articles as much and allows the discussion to become skewed.
I don't know. It is interesting though.
Just as a point of reference, I'm an Apple fanboy, and I think the idea of Apple using lawyers as a blunt object with which to beat college kids running rumor sites is bullshit.
If it weren't for OS X and Windows, what interfaces would KDE and GNOME developers strive to imitate?
I was waiting for Tiger before I buy my iMac Mini. It looks like April might be the month that I become an official "I don't really use a Mac, but I do have one on a KVM" users. Id gets a new toy, yippeee!
Saying Java is nice because it works on all OS's is like saying that anal sex is nice because it works on all genders.
Slashdot bills itself as "News For Nerds. Stuff That Matters." Clearly the latest release of OS X matters to the nerds.
The delicious irony a *free* software advocate telling others what they *should* do is making me hungry....
That said, earlier this week Apple's OS X downloads area did for a time include three new categories (linked to non-existent pages) for features that are OS X specific such as Spotlight. The most likely explaination is that parts of the new Tiger website leaked out. That suggests Tiger isn't far off.
May would be a better guess and I for one would rather they took long enough to purge more of the bugs, so switchers being brought in by the iPod/Mac mini don't get burned by something awful.
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True enough, not to mention that the Think Secret case has less to do with whether or not they're journalism, and more with whether or not they posted information in violation with trade secret laws. Those laws exist, they're defined, and they do not make exceptions for journalism.
TS and their lawyers trying to make this an argument of Apple vs. blogs is them trying to make a case in the court of public opinion, since they've got no good defense in the court of actual laws.
One time I threw a brick at a duck.
IBM is still having serious problems with heat dissipation, so unless they produce a throttled-back chip, the G5 is unlikely to make its way into portables anytime soon. The consensus among Apple watchers is that dual-core G4's from Freescale (formerly Motorola's processor division) are likelier candidates for portable Macs.
Specify in which Think Secret article Nick talked about "what his cat did today". You're right - it's about rumors. You're wrong - it's not a weblog just because it's published serially.
I refer you to the excellent "If The New York Times Jumped Off a Bridge" for good parallells between journalism and Think Secret's material.
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1.) Release New Update every few months.
2.) Charge stupid fanboys a whooole lotta $$$$
3.) PROFIT!!!!!
APPLE DOESN'T EVEN NEED A 4TH STEP!!!
We should be promoting Free software, not closed.
Says who? YOU?
Sure journalists should have a right to keep their sources secret but don't companies also have a right to have trade secrets? So, why should journalists be permitted to have their secrets after they engaged in activities that negated a company's rights to secrets? Think about it.
This entire situation is shitty on all accounts. On one hand, the employees need to be fired. Secondly, journalists should not be bribing an organizations employees for secret information. Lastly, Apple shouldn't care so much. No one takes ThinkSecret all that seriously. How many times have their rumors been absolutely ridiculous besides being incorrect? Remember how many times they've published rumors about a new PDA, G5 Powerbook, iTablet, or an iPhone?
[insert lame joke here]
> Clearly the latest release of OS X matters to the nerds.
Not really. This site has stopped being a nerd site long ago. Nowadays it's news for lamers and losers.
It's not a matter of if it's free or not. It's a matter of if it's good or not.
OSX itself may be closed, but they actively promote the open source development model. They've even started several projects themselves. Take a look:
http://www.apple.com/opensource/
No, actually the judge said specifically he was not ruling on whether the info was acquired illegally or not. So you fail it.
Since when is journalism a criminal activity?
Only Valve uses that as a justification for not shipping things on time. /feels a Troll coming on
Peep that
The one developed at Xerox PARC?
Just like it is for quicktime, you allreay have the feature, sorry to burst your bubble.
Slightly off topic, but nonetheless important. I too wanted a new Powerbook, but decided not to wait for Tiger. I wish I had now. On Tuesday, my 3rd attempt at getting a suitable one is going back, and I'm getting a refund.
Powerbook 1) Dead pixels, screen not flush with case when closed, causing problems with the latch. Replaced by...
Powerbook 2) Trackpad vertical motion about 10 times slower than horizontal motion. Sometimes took 7 or 8 full sweeps to get from the top of the screen to the bottom. Replaced by...
Powerbook 3) Literally bent. Wobbles when placed on a flat desk. Returning to Apple for a refund.
I'm not alone in these problems - many sites have documented the trackpad issues, and the Apple Discussion forums have lots of posts about the fit/finish problems. I too had a post there, until it was deleted by a moderator for being "off topic". Strange how a quality issue can be off topic in a technical forum, when posts about Apples latest "Computers for Schools" programs are not.
So, be warned - The new Powerbooks are not perfect, by a long way. Apple hardware quality has just dropped a massive amount in my eyes, and I though I'm currently waiting a month to see if they fix these issues, I'm very tempted not to bother with them again.
adamw
/. being sued by Apple. Maybe then not everybody who dares to criticize Apple will be modded down instantly.
Sue Apple, sue!
MAC is for the ethernet MAC address. Get it right, don't be a fool.
that's the first of a long line of releases and whatnot on the day.....
Because these individuals whose free speech you want to abridge are not signatories to the privacy contract.
I wouldn't want a G5 in a laptop. You can permanently damage yourself running that hot a processor in your lap.
Seriously, though, I hope Apple goes with the Freescale dual-core G4 for mobile use before the G5.
If it weren't for OS X and Windows, what interfaces would KDE and GNOME developers strive to imitate?
"window, icon, menu, pointing device"
See Xerox Star (aka Dandelion) GUI.
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Is Mac OS X Tiger going to have J2SE 5 "Tiger" as well? I don't see much mention about Java except a little in the XCode area. They don't mention a version at all. Maybe I just missed it.
A programmer is a machine for converting coffee into code.
"Why should free speech trump the rights of an individual or a company to use a contract to keep information private?"
Because free speach is the very basis of democracy and the rule of law?
It's all about the money (duh).
Apple makes money off iTunes (music store / iPods), and they provide security updates for Jaguar (good security means good PR means more OS sales). So they certainly have a reason for these particular updates.
While it certainly is possible Apple will give Panther a Safari 2.0, I wouldn't bet on it. There ain't any money in it for them.
-Pie
The free speech rights of journalists are not trampled upon. There is NO constitutional right for journalists to keep the names of their sources secret. Some states have laws that protect this right, but there is neither a federal constitutional right nor a common law privilege. The state laws are not absolute privileges either -- in the California case, the judge ruled that California's shield law does not cover the type of reporting done by the fan sites.
From the ruling: "Unlike the whistleblower who discloses a health, safety or welfare hazard affecting all, or the government employee who reveals mismanagement or worse by our public officials, (the enthusiast sites) are doing nothing more than feeding the public's insatiable desire for information."
This seems to be lost in all the hysteria over Apple's suit. Apple is NOT suing ThinkSecret for damages. They are suing ThinkSecret only to get the names of the people who did reveal trade secrets. Those people broke their NDAs and Apple wants to go after them for breach of contract. There is, of course, no "free speech" right to break a contract in which you agreed not to reveal those secrets. Apple's target is those people, and that's what the law suit is about.
Now, since ThinkSecret is refusing to reveal the names of those sources, and since there's no privilege to keep those names secret, it is in contempt of court. This is a fundamental aspect of our justice system, that the litigants are entitled to "everyman's evidence." You definitely want this. Think about it. If you were in an accident and none of the witnesses want to testify, where does that leave you? You can subpoena them to testify in court and reveal what they know, and if they refuse, they can be held in contempt of court. This is exactly analogous.
Don't let the label "journalist" fool you. We are all journalists -- we post on a blog and we report what we see and what we think. If you are going to give "journalists" a right to keep quiet about evidence, then everyone would have this right, and our system would not function. The First Amendment emphatically does not allow you to keep silent in court unless you have an applicable privilege.
May I humbly suggest you fuck off and die? Thank you.
Trade secrets are things that are meant to remain secret indefinitely, so as to enjoy a form of protection that is longer-lived than patents. To call product specifications which are released a few weeks or months before they're posted on Apple.com makes a mockery of trade secret protection law.
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How exactly is having a court order journalists to reveal their sources not a victory against journalism?
/.ers seems to take a time out when Apple is concerned, but journalists being able to publish information that certain people don't want to be published and journalists being able to protect the sources that gave them these secret information is at the very core of a free press.
The brain of many
I've seen the preview release of Tiger...
It's grrrrrrrrrrreat!
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the judge stated that interest by the public is not the same as public interest.
...because a judge said it? A judge moving to inhibit online journalism for the benefit of one multi-billion dollar multi-national corporation? You can give up your free speech rights (by signing a contract if you want to). I don't give up mine. If I hear, see, or come into possession of documents about something interesting I may share, speak, or publisher on these matters of public interest however I see fit. Just because you choose to be a peon doesn't mean I have to follow suit. I like my Constiutional rights. That includes the right of revolution. If you and others like you continue to trample on the Bill of Rights be prepared for some real change.
And this is true because?
I have notice that every time now that there is a rumor about a product release. The date comes and goes, then a couple days later or a week later they finally give it out. I wonder if they do this after the rumor comes out, or they give out a false date to throw everyone off. I'm guessing that it will be April 4-8 that we will see this produce gets showen. Also, has everyone seen Sneak preview: Engadget RSS feed as seen via Tiger Quartz Extreme .
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I find the updates to be generally worthwhile - each one has seen decent speed improvements, each time a number of programs like Mail are updated, and one of the updates gave us Expose which was certainly worth paying for.
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Are you saying that the overwhelming majority of nerds and geeks *aren't* lamers and losers?
What is this? First Think Secret is reffered to as a blog (Is every site with more then on article per month considered a blog these days?) now some stupid ass rumor of theirs is handled as fact?
/. is willing to post any Apple related rumor now, I have a dozen stories ready for submission here.
To me it seems that these are tries to build sympathy for Nick Ciarelli. To put him in a light where he is seen as a fellow blogger/journalist. And thereby making Apples efforts to look like an attack on constitutional rights. If
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By analogy, then, would you agree that selling stolen property - which you know is stolen - is perfectly legitimate, as long as you're not the one who actually stole it?
And that no one should be able to compel you to reveal the identity of the thief?
Right - I'll be sending some guys around to your place, then. But don't worry - they'll just be stealing information, such as your bank account and credit card numbers. And I'll just be posting them in my blog.
Um. The thesis of Gruber's article is that Think Secret is not a news site, because a news site would have known not to break the law in pursuit of a story.
Sure, it's not news unless a John Williams score plays before and after its presentation by an empty talking head in a gray pin-striped suit.
I wish that you were right. I really, really do.
Maybe the AWT system components are OpenGL-accelerated, but other in-Java parts are not. For example, image operations can be OpenGL-accelerated in JDK 1.5 (presently you have to request it).
In the above example, on most Windows boxes, I get roughly comparable performance using accelerated Java2D as I get doing the same things in Java3D or JOGL, and it's fast. On the other hand, on Macs, the same stuff runs 30-40x faster in JOGL or Java3D than it does in Java2D.
* Post the same misinformed crap as you did in the last article
* Get a clue about the difference between "news that is in the public's interest" and "news that interests the public"
* RTFA and actually understand it
* Stay ignorant
Just for the record, I don't think you can really call what Nick did "bribing." He offered a promise of anonymity in return for secrets, and that's definitely against the law, but I think "bribing" is misleading and goes too far.
Just a nitpick.
We have freedom of speech. The right to violate a company's NDA is not part of it. The journalist was in no way inhibited because they never should have had the information in the first place.
Delaying a planned release to spite the Mac sites would be even more counterproductive than Apple's recent actions. However, I wouldn't underestimate Apple's willingness to cut off its own nose -- and those of its users -- to spite its face.
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Executive editor
Ziff Davis Internet
I didn't say 'trade secret protection laws.' I said 'contract' - as in NDA.
If it's okay to violate an NDA, as long as you do it by telling a reporter what you know, then just what exactly is an NDA for, in your opinion?
dumbass
Because free as in speech doesn't apply to which stories are run.
Yes. True. I said in my original comment that it deals almost exclusively with rumors - which no news site does, nor any site whose de facto purpose is to keep the reader informed of what happens to his cat.
Is it this sentence that confuses you? I refer you to the excellent "If The New York Times Jumped Off a Bridge [daringfireball.net]" for good parallells between journalism and Think Secret's material. I didn't say that Think Secret's material was journalism, I said that the piece contains parallells between what the NYT might have done and what Think Secret did, both having the same information and all other things being equal. None of this conflicts with what you're saying unless I'm missing something painfully obvious.
Point taken. :-P
"Why should free speech trump the rights of an individual or a company to use a contract to keep information private?"
Because free speach is the very basis of democracy and the rule of law?
Actually, no. While we hold those rights very high in the United States, the basis of democracy and capitalism is property rights.
precisely, and that GUI is a bloody stockmarket of icons and silliness. me? i turfed that rubbish interface and put on fluxbox (under X11). now im far more productive!
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while hte OS is gernally OK, one thing Apple tends to generalise on this idea of Useability. theyd actually have a *rising* number switchers if they made theyre desktop as configurable as Linux or even WinXP. in the current state it simply scares people off.
Who is this "we"? Some of us don't have any issue at all with proprietary software, particularly when that software is superior to other alternatives. In my opinion, that's the case with OSX. Nothing else compares.
Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
Free Software (as opposed to free software) is all about telling others what to do.
Software freedom is not the same as the price of a doctors services or of electronics.
The Free software foundation has lots of information on this subject try: http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/free-sw.html
How do you even manage to post?
The brain of many morons who didn't read that fucking article and don't understand the law keep spewing bullshit about how journalists have lost any rights.
But then again, these people are too stupid to know the difference between "news that is in the public interest(i.e. companies dumping toxic waste into a public lake or a government official accepting bribes)" and "news that interests the public(i.e. telling people to break their NDA's about the next iProduct). By their logic Weekly World News is journalism, and Bat-boy is real.
In other words, no this case had no effect on REAL journalism.
Pre-release versions for developers have been out for a while. I'm using the current one on my desktop machine and it seems stable and pretty much production-ready.
Spotlight and Dashboard are both very neat, but the biggest improvement (or at least the stuff I miss when I'm on my 10.3 laptop) is the new Safari build. Apart from the (really nice) integrated RSS reader the changes aren't that major, but it's a more pleasant app to use.
Interesting point. It scared our IT Manager off so much that he *actually* went for KDE on Linux on the basis that it has all the benefits of OSX but with the recognition factor of WinXP. Not that I agree with him there, but I see this kind of thing happening. A shame anyway, would have liked the change. Not a big rollout (120 Machines) but the office folk and techies seem very happy so far.
Microsoft announced that they will release longhorn unfinished, just to compete with apple and say their also 'Innovative'
"the basis of democracy and capitalism is property rights."
Ah, sure, thanks for clearing that up...
Jesus.
I don't know if I'd call it painfully obvious, but I do feel like you're missing something. See, Gruber's point was that any parallel you might draw between professional reporters and Nick Ciarelli are completely outweighed by the massive differences. Namely, that a professional reporter would never have done with Ciarelli did. Of the comparison, Gruber says, "This is a bogus argument, on several levels." (He then goes on to explain the levels, but I'm not gonna quote the whole article.)
Saying there are parallels between what Ciarelli does and what The New York Times does is kinda like saying that they're the same because they both write in English. The similarities are superficial and meaningless compared to the differences, which are huge and significant.
The NDA contract is between Apple and a second party. Typically, one does not sue or subpoena a third party when the second party is known to breach contract. If the second party is not known, then this is all a fishing expedition or a SLAPP, both of which should be thrown out of court with malice.
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That Apple's OS updates follow the same naming conventions as Wehrmacht tanks? If 10.5 is called Maus then we're going to be in trouble.
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Congratulations, the Apple department of doublespeak is proud to declare you todays winner of our free ipod give away.
/.ers that the torture going on in Guantanamo is not REAL torture and the prisoners of war there aren't REAL prisoners of war anyway. He even promises a G5 ;-D
By randomly defining that something Apple attacks is not real journalism you have artfully circumvented any problem someone might see with Apple attacking journalists, ups, sorry, slip of tounge, not real journalists. You really learned your lesson well and deserve your free ipod as a little sign of our appreciation.
P.S.: Karl Rove called. He asks if you could make it clear to the other
dual processor laptops before g5's *
What you're missing is that this ruling is the headland of the slippery slope. If there is an exception to the shield law in case of "crimes committed by the source", then all that the government or any company or any private individual need do is find any possible crime, no matter how minor (and trade secret violation is rather minour), to force a source to be revealed. Proof of crime is not necessary according to this judge, nor is a preponderence of the evidence, merely a suspicion that a crime may have been committed is enough.
You're missing that there is the presumption that a crime was committed. Since the informant is unknown, we don't know if the submitter of the information was one who, let's say, overheard a conversation between two Apple employees? While the employees should have been more discreet, the third-party commits no crime when he reveals what he overheard. However, in turning over that name, ThinkSecret destroys their own future source's faith and thus by extension the faith of any person communicating with reporters.
What you're missing is that this ruling is an interpretive ruling from an activist judge. The California shield law does not make an exception for journalist shield privelege if a crime was committed in the turning over of information. If the legislature had wanted that exception, then the law should have been written that way. The judge should not substitute his will for the will of the people.
That is unfair, to say the least.
Besides that, it is a comparison of XP to OSX 10.4 - they are years apart release-date wise. One should compare XP to OSX 10.1 or 10.2.
WinXP has numerous usability improvements over 2000, the look-and-feel being only one of the least signigicant ones.
Windows Explorer is a lot smarter when it comes to deal with media files - filmstrip and slideshows are something very useful when browsing thru a large number of pictures (and I have a large number of pictures). The tasks on the left pane are also very useful (even if they get on the way of the folder tree) - no right-click-new-folder to make a new folder, for instance.
Date and time can be synchronized with NTP servers (2000 only synchronized with the domain controller, IIRC)
There is the switch user thing - your wife can check her e-mail while you are downloading something - Apple even copied this one (there is always a first time for everything).
There is remote desktop (and yes, its server side works better than VNC, at least on Windows).
There is sub-pixel anti-aliasing for LCD displays
And it was released about 2001, IIRC.
True - many of these things existed and exist currently on other desktops (I wish I could switch users easily on Gnome, tough), but to say that XP is only a tiny little bit better deal than 2000 is useless Microsoft bashing (and I do quite a lot of it).
Before bashing Microsoft (or anyone else), you should try to use their products. Really.
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prettier icons???
To claim that property rights are the very basis of democray is simply ludicrous, but I guess that doesn't count as long as it helps to defend Apple.
My whole point was that they were not the same, which is also why I linked to Gruber. :) Maybe I should have used the word "comparison" as opposed to "parallell", but I'm right with you, and I couldn't agree with Gruber more either.
Then you wish to leave to the government and the courts to decide what is in the public interest? Should not the public decide both in what they were interested and what was in their public interest? Suddenly, we have the judge deciding in what we should be interested and what will effect our public will? I don't know about from where you come, but here we call that judge's "rationality" hubris and arrogance.
Thanks for the correction. I thought I read somewhere that bribes had occured. Maybe not with ThinkSecret but possibly other sites. Not really sure...
[insert lame joke here]
"but instead had won the right to subpeona records in order to determine how information was illegally obtained."
Yes. Because apple is superspecial and must be protected against those nasty rumors.
They might hurt our poor little apple.
Please. If you keep thinking that way, your brain will probably get a tumor from trying to deal with the internal stupdity.
That blog post spends a fair amount of time disecting the Journalists vs Bloggers thing -- but the fact is the judge in the case basically said the distinction does not matter.
Also some guy's back-n-forth with Dan Gillmor says barely anything about the actual matters before the court.
That's been in Safari pretty much from the get-go. My guess is rendering problems and Javascript problems, primarily.
I think the word you wanted to use was "contrast." I don't want to put words in your mouth, but I think what you were trying to do was illustrated differences, not similarities. Right?
Apple's JDK 1.3 implementation was accelerated by OpenGL; it was on a per-application basis, since it wasn't perfect and some apps blew up spectacularly. The work the Java team did though later grew into Quartz Extreme.
Unfortunately Apple's JDK 1.4 implementation was a ground-up rewrite - they switched toolkits from Carbon to Cocoa. The hardware acceleration wasn't redone for 1.4; consequently many applications suffered dramatic slowdowns when switching from 1.3 to 1.4 on the Mac.
Hopefully the Java 5.0 implementation will reenable hardware acceleration, this time as a fully-supported feature of the VM.
Why do you say "they never should have had the information in the first place"? Do you know something about how this information got to the press that we (and the judge) don't know? If you do, I suggest you speak up so Apple can subpoena you.
>>My guess is that the doctor who snatched you from your mother's womb was, likewise, not "free" (as in speech).
>>Quit being silly.
Excuse me for being "silly", but how in vermillion hells could a person be "free as in speech"?
I wanted to illustrate both, but mainly differences.
Ah, sticking to your own ripped off version of Unix, then? Or do you run Version 7 on a PDP-11 when reading slashdot?
does it run Lin...wait.
Has anyone else noted the irony that this whole issue is really about two NDAs?
On the one hand, we have the NDA between Apple and whoever leaked the information. People go to great lengths to explain how breaking that NDA, and/or publishing information gained from someone who did break that NDA, is Freedom Of Speech Goodness Galore.
On the other hand, we have ThinkSecret's promise of anonymity to its sources.
Now, if you think about it for five seconds, that pretty much boils down to another NDA, aka: an Agreement Not to Disclose information. But this NDA has to be protected at all costs because, again, that's Freedom Of Speech.
If "All Secrets Limit My Freedom", as some people have argued, and "Any Judge Who Enforces An NDA Is Pissing On Freedom Of Speech", as has also been argued (repeatedly), what makes ThinkSecret's decision to withold information so good?
"If ThinkSecret gave up the names of its sources, it won't be able to attract sources in the future," you say? But doesn't that pretty much boil down to the statement: "ThinkSecret uses NDAs to protect its business"?
And this is different from Apple's NDA.. how?
Dude, you added me to your foes list for debating you in this thread? It's no matter to me, but if you're going to go to the trouble of foe-ing me, perhaps you could at least have the courtesy to respond to the (sincere) question I asked here.
Companies don't need to prove their information is a trade secret.
Here's a stretch of an analogy. I work for a defense contractor. We were bidding on a project that had a very aggressive schedule. The entire schedule was a trade secret, even the general terms of how long it was. Why? If a competitor found out, they would know our assessment of how long we think it takes us to build such a product. This gives them knowledge and advantage in the marketplace.
Point #1: Should our company have to PROVE that this information is economically valuable?
Point #2: Any competitor can know the state of Tiger at the time of the leak, and knowing the release date, they now know how long it takes Apple to polish up a product for release. The competitors can assess their "polishing" skills against Apple's, and that does give them information Apple would rather they not have.
10.3 mail.app looks for new mail in the various directories for my imap account (where mail is forwarded by procmail).
If you need full synchronization, then set it in the account preferences page, aka synchronize automatically.
As for thunderbird, this is done on a per-directory basis.
... there will be a rebate for it?
You don't need any documentation in order to regard the release date as a trade secret. Every company has a marketing department, and they decide when to announce product availability. We should let them run their business how they want to.
For what its worth, *I* have been waiting for Tiger before buying, but my friend couldn't wait and bought mini a few weeks ago. I nearly bought a Powerbook when I saw a great deal, but I've been waiting for Tiger. So, here, add 1 to your count people "quantitative evidence".
The rules are simple. You can disclose Trade Secrets when they serve the public interest. But you can't disclose Trade Secrets because the public is interested. There is some leeway in here, but that's good.
Didn't I tell you and all your kind to stay in your hole? Hole. Now. Go. Don't speak, just go.
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How well will (1st gen) Mac mini support Core Image in Tiger?
Has anyone done some tests with pre-release copy?
Because there's no signed contracts.
assuming you give a rats ass about Etats-Unians laws ...
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To the guy who modded me down from perfect to terrible Karma - Apple haters still suck
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re you a fucking idiot? the compiler on OS X is GCC your twit. and OS X is a real OS.
oh... I see, you just installed Linux for the first time and feel like a super geek.
they are SO cute when they are that age!
I am the Alpha and the Omega-3
You must be referring to the FSF's insistence that folks refer to 'linux' as 'gnu/linux'
Actually, no. While we hold those rights very high in the United States, the basis of democracy and capitalism is property rights.
Dude, you are getting your political and economics mixed up. Democracy != Capitalism. Many countries in Europe are, for example, Socialist Democracies. You are correct in saying that property rights form the fundamental basis for capitalism, but not for democracy.
On the other hand, the GP poster isn't correct either. Free Speech is NOT the "very basis" of the rule of law, and only part of the basis of democracy.
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It doesn't matter, as it'll be a good day no matter what. Even if 10.4 isn't out then, Sin City will be!
Well, you were making a good point up till here. In my country, doctors are free (as in beer) to the person requiring treatment through taxation. More importantly, medical knowledge *is* free (as in speech). Can you imagine a situation where it wasn't?? Where a doctor would hold on to his/her knowledge to give themselves a competitive advantage? Not only would patients suffer, through the concentration of this knowledge, but the doctor would suffer as his/her ideas would not advance through the contribution of their peers.
Scientific knowledge needs to be free.
Dude, you are getting your political and economics mixed up. Democracy != Capitalism. Many countries in Europe are, for example, Socialist Democracies. You are correct in saying that property rights form the fundamental basis for capitalism, but not for democracy.
Socialist Democracies value property rights, as does even communism. They just eschew property as an institution. Don't think I put any particular brand of property rights on the phrase "property rights."
Anyhow, I do agree that property rights form a much greater foundation to capitalism than democracy. I should of clarified, but I was impassioned to point out that free speech really isn't the basis of democracy whatsoever.
"Anyhow, I do agree that property rights form a much greater foundation to capitalism than democracy. I should of clarified, but I was impassioned to point out that free speech really isn't the basis of democracy whatsoever."
Then please elaborate, why free speech isn't at least an important part of the basis of democracy? How is a democracy even thinkable without free speech?
Yeah, I find this annoying sometimes too - but I can understand one big reason they'd be motivated to do it.
...." It's not just in the Slashdot story heading... It's all over the place on any Mac fan site.
It has to be a big booster of new hardware sales for them. Look at how often you see comments like "I'm *waiting* to purchase a new for
The whole point is, yeah, the OS and software updates aren't always worth the asking price - but that artificially high barrier to entry makes Mac owners feel better about the idea of upgrading systems or buying another new one. (Hey, I'm guilty of it too. I wanted iLife '05 but didn't really want to pay for it, after I just paid for iLife '04 last year. The fact that iLife '05 came bundled with every new Mac Mini, though, pushed me over the edge to buy one of 'em. You figure, $499 for a Mini minus a discount coupon I already had for an Apple store purchase - and then you factor in the price of iLife '05..... Starts to look pretty reasonable.)
Since generally, Macs have respectable resale value (assuming they're not TOO old), I think Apple is trying hard to get more folks to consider ebaying that 2-3 year old laptop or iMac and grabbing a shiny new model. (Hey, free Tiger with it!)
My iPhoto is getting mighty slow, and I don't particularly want to spend the $50 to get iLife and upgrade it to the latest version (supposedly much faster).
I wonder if Tiger will have the latest version included. Anyone know, or care to guess?
>>My guess is that the doctor who snatched you from your mother's womb was, likewise, not "free" (as in speech).
I think he means that a doctor has the doctor/patient privilege thing. Meaning that he does not have a right to announce to the world that you have cancer.
That's my take anyway.
Photoshop Elements is Adobe's consumer oriented image editor. And it is very good at being just that since it is essentially a version of PS with much of the hardcore image tech removed or made more user-friendly.
In any case, I am just as bemused by the recent increase in articles and posts on Slashdot that appear to be anti-privacy, as the original poster seems to be about what he perceives as posts and articles which are anti-free speech.
I note with disappointment that his post has been rated "Troll" now. I disagree with his assertion, but his post certainly wasn't a troll. Mildly ironic, considering the 'free speech' angle.
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This post succintly points out the folly of the reasoning of the earlier post! All ye AppleFanBoys, hear!
Wouldn't it be cool if Apple released the last dot version as a free upgrade for all users when they release a new dot version? Anyone who really wants the latest OSX (like me) will buy it pretty much immediately. I'll have 10.4 as soon as it's available. If they then put 10.3 as a free upgrade for all 10 users, they and their third party developers would only ever have to officially support two versions of the OS. And it would generate huge good will.
Ah well, not gonna happen.
Cheers.
The topic is Mac OS X. Since Apple's OS and hardware are interlinked, this is clearly on-topic.
That said, I want a 12". Small, powerful, portable preconfigured UNIX with a reasonable price tag.
I wonder, however, whether Tiger will be faster or slower overall than 10.3 on the same hardware.
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10.2 users can expect to receive security patches until next wednesday. Yes, we know that Tiger won't be out until then, but you asked for it.
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The only "problem" is the Airport Extreme card still has poor reception, at least compared to my old white iBook G3.
The iBooks get the best reception of all Macintosh models. At least this was the case when I got my 15" 1.25 GHz Powerbook about 1.5 years ago. So, you probably won't see the kind of reception on your Powerbook as you do on your iBook.
That said, some Powerbooks, especially the 12" models, have reception issues (like getting 2 bars when fewer than 10 feet from the WiFi node, Airport or generic) and the way to improve it is to open up your PB and to make sure the connector to the Airport card is fully seated.
It seems sort of silly, but for a while many Powerbooks were coming out the factory with their Airport cards not fully connected to the Airport antenna. Check yours just to make sure.
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The question is whether tiger will run on my G3 ibook from 2001, or has Apple released the hardware requirements yet?
Tell that to all the journals that have several hundred dollar subscriptions and the researchers who don't publish their crystal structures because they want to analyze first. There's so much scientific information out there longing to be free... let's hope that open source rubs off on science.
Actually, no. The "rule of law" is based on guns. Lots of guns.
But they don't need to prove just to make the claim to get to court, which is what seemed to be the implication.
The point is that the release date has actual value on the market, and should be regarded as a trade secret. If the release date is true, then MS can make some strategic market moves to steal Apple's thunder. If the release date was never leaked, then MS can do such thing.
Be careful.
Either you've just violated a non-disclosure agreement or else you've let slip that you're running pirated software.
Ever heard of a whois search? Your identity is known.
That's pretty slick, I'm not a huge fan of a fullscreen RSS reader, but perhaps it's just a screensaver?
I have been under the impression that if you wanted to be a baker, a musician, a construction worker, or a railroad baron, you granted yourself that title, and there you were. It doesn't make you good or qualified, but there certainly are enough poor, unqualified people doing those jobs at present.
Just look at the 'Slashdot Editors'. Are they *really* editors? Are they good? Can they call themselves editors? So back it up...where's the line? You work at a newspaper? So, the Salon guys aren't journalists? You need a circulation of 10,000? So the local news reporter isn't? Are people allowed to label themselves?
Meh. Why your comment is modded insightful, I can't figure.
Interestingly, the release would be early enough for Apple to actually push out a whole new release before Longhorn next year. 10.5 would be a very interesting release because it would be Apple's "official" reaction to Longhorn. Imagine two whole OS X releases in the time Longhorn has sat in an alpha state. What is Microsoft doing all this time?
Not that I mind, but I think Slashdot has officially become a mac-rumor site. They've posted 2 rumors in as many days. Couldn't they at least put them on a mac-rumors page so they don't show up on the main page?
Will that Radeon 9200 32MB video be able to handle the GPU-intense graphics of OSX 10.4. I'm hoping some sites will take a look at that question when tiger is available.
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If you're not outraged, then you're not paying attention.
Fluxbox is kickass. I'm not debating that for a second. But I'm wondering if making stuff customizable doesn't scare people away, too? Windows and OS X can both host external window managers, both have built-in skins (if you can call the OS X choice of Aqua and Graphite a skin, that is; I agree that this is a bit weak) and both have extra programs that can help you skin the existing interface. The options are there for the people who do need or want it, and if Apple ends up aping those tools, the odds are high we'll have another Dashboard-Konfabulator thing on our hands.
Even if OS X was more customizable than Windows out of the box, I don't think it'll make up the biggest inherent flaw - the people coming from Windows, OS 9 and Linux to take a peek at OS X for the first time all feel a bit lost. I think that's what scares people off primary. (This is true for any OS, of course. I've seen Windows aficionados struggle with the red hat menu in Fedora.)
I don't think more than half of the people using computers have an interest in customizing anything - getting to know the computer and the interface makes a good challenge for a sizable chunk of computer users new to any OS. As Apple since at least the iMac has partially profiled themselves as selling computers to those who didn't use to have any at all (which they did back in '84, too, of course), they *proportionally* receive more of those people than others, and I think it affects the general design of their products too.
I suspect that the grandparent was being sarcastic. At least I hope so...
reveal information about a product before product launch would be against NDA because the only people who would know about would be people that signed a NDA (Apple employees hint hint) so there was no reason that the information would have been public unless someone who works for apple leaked it thus violating NDA , getting them fired , and probably sued , not sure how this has anything to do with freespeech
He's using very specific code names in his hardware prediction on the front page.
Apple has been known to use several code names for the same piece of hardware, giving different names to different labs, testers, etc.
One advantage of such a strategy is that if anything leaks, you can narrow down the source.
I can imagine the same can be done with dates.
This kid HAS figured out that if he loses the original case, they'll be back with both barrels on every subsequent leak, right?
"Win treats sysadmins better than users. Mac treats users better than sysadmins. Linux treats everyone like sysadmins."
Will Safari 2.0 that comes with Tiger finally have the nasty bug fixed that prevents it to authenticate to an IIS server and de facto make it a pos browser?
Wow, what a way to win your argument!
Nice assumption that I and other people are astrotufers for Apple. I am not a fan of Apple, I don't care for Apple or their over priced and under featured MP3 player. Same can be said for their computers & DRMed music store.
What I do care about is miss informed people who think that journalism entitles them to print whatever the hell they want without any scrutiny or being held accountable for their actions. They solicited for Apple employees to knowingly break their NDAs, and Apple is bringing legal action against them so that they can get the names of those who leaked Apple's trade secrets.
Good fucking grief, this isn't Apple participating in a government corruption cover-up or someone blowing the whistle on Apple knowing shipping a product with a huge safety flaw that will result in thousands of deaths. And this wasn't rumors either, they knowingly offered _ for Apple employees to break their legally binding NDA's. It wasn't over hearing an Apple employee walking by on the Apple campus/whatever they call their site, it was "hay Apple employees, break your NDAs for us so we can generate lots of money from Ad revenue." Again, all Apple wants is the name of the employees who leaked that information, and like most businesses have the right to go after those who didn't enforce their contracts.
Just because something is in the public interest doesn't mean you can report it with impunity Again, there is a difference between blowing the whistle on a known safety issue, and illegally obtaining information on the next iProduct. Or do you have no problem about me illegally obtaining personal information (medical records, your private life, finances, what you browse/post on your PC, etc)? I ask this because I am sure there would be of interest to a lot of slashdotters. What if I wrote & made up some libelous statements about you, claimed it was from an anonymous source, and posted them on my blog... I mean Professional News Site? Does it mean that you will have no problem with me not being accountable for my actions and abusing the system if I claim to be a journalist?
I am not going to attack your illegible PS rant, but I will say nice try at attempting to derail the discussion even more.
Again, it is clueless posts like yours that make me laugh whenever someone says they consider slashdot and its posters reliable sources.
You said: Then you wish to leave to the government and the courts to decide what is in the public interest? Should not the public decide both in what they were interested and what was in their public interest? Suddenly, we have the judge deciding in what we should be interested and what will effect our public will?
Judges are actors of the public will. That's why they are installed as part of a democratic process. Pay more attention the next time you are at the ballot box if you don't like what your judges are doing.
Anyhow, there's a difference between "the public interest" and "in the public's interest". Not to get all semantic on you. It's in the public's interest to know if one of the Secret 11 Herbs and Spices is cyanide. That's why whistle-blowers get protections. The Apple-NDA-Breakers are not whistle-blowers. They are not saving the public from poison or exposing government corruption or accounting fraud.
Read Heinlein's 1953 Revolt in 2100, now more than ever.
" oh please. some dude with a blog spouting off what his cat did today does not a journalist make...."
/. to post, and was important enough for you to bother to read the comments off the /. post of their news. Otherwise, your comment wouldn't be here.
Apparently, ThinkSecret's news important enough for
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There's a place where doctors are not free as in beer. It's called the US. As for medical knowledge being free as in speech, we have a system called the patent system that ensures that medical knowledge about pharmaceutical drugs is decidedly not free as in speech. Sure, the information is available, but it cannot be used without paying the owners. We all suffer as a result of this.
If it won't run on your clamshell G3, you can bet Ryan Rempel will come up with a fix... after all, he just managed to get Jaguar running on Powermac 7x00s using the pre-G3 604e CPU cards.
Mr. Rothenberg didn't mention that he's co-authored a few articles with Nick Ciarelli (aka Think Secret's Nick de Plume) and as such is hardly a disinterested party in Ciarelli's legal troubles, although presenting himself without full disclosure is quite disingenuous.
It's curious that the press doesn't out their own secrets, but they're quite happy to out another company's secrets. Is that what passes for "journalism?"
If you're going to do the "mock rage" thingy, make sure you spell article correctly.
Loves and kisses, fanboi.
That's only because X and X.1 sucked the weenie. They were awful.
I put away my powerbook for a year because it was painful to use.
In point of fact, I've written a couple of essays that discuss my work with Nick over the years -- it's hardly a fact I've tried to conceal.
Quite the contrary: I'm proud to "disclose" this relationship. I wish that at age 19, I'd had half Nick's savvy, and I'm confident he'll do great things with his career.
And FTR (in the interest of disclosure), I'm not involved in this suit in any way, shape or form, although I stand ready to testify to Nick's methods and accuracy.
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Do Apple let you install the Mac Mini bundled version of iLife on your other Macs? If not then you still need to purchase is seperately to run it on anything other than the Mac Mini, I find my 1Ghz Powerbook is barely fast enough for running Garageband 2 so I wouldn't think the Mini would be much better.
"Taligent is still pure vapor. Maybe they'll be the last who jumps up on Openstep... "
Back in '84 Apple gave us applications and desk accessories. Then in '90 System 7 came along, and desk accessories were now the same as applications. You could put anything you want into the apple menu.
Now it's 2005, and desk accessories are back. Only they're called "widgets".
(Prediction: Around 2010 some whiz kid in a back room at Apple will think, "Hey! We could let any old app be a widget ....")
Your link says you're "ethically opposed to 'outing'." Why is that? Are secrets necessary to your work? Why does the press, did you, conspire to keep secrets that are in the public interest? It's not like naming him was like outing a CIA agent or anything. Double standards?
Your choice of address to me is a little unfair in that case? We shouldn't expect fairness from a reporter should we? That standard went out with the millenium.
Nick's a private individual, not a public company. He chose to operate under a pen name; I respected his choice. You might not choose to see the distinction -- but that's your choice.
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Actually Think Secret LLC is a company, not an individual. You may be too close to the issue to see your hypocrisy.
I just ordered a new Mac to replace my aging clone. I'll probably be just outside the window where I can upgrade for free.
I can't decide if this post is interesting, funny, insightful, or flamebait.
Well, you were making a good point up till here. In my country, doctors are free (as in beer) to the person requiring treatment through taxation.
Then it isn't truly free then is it?... unless you are personally evading taxes and not paying your doctor via the government.
There is no such thing as a free lunch bub.
No one has said it is okay to violate a contract. But such a violation is between the parties to the contract. Your bizarre desire to make an alleged contract violation transitive to non-parties to the contract doesn't really work.
Put another way: Something you signed does not bind me.
The Uniform Trade Secrets Act says that
... inducement to breach a duty to maintain secrecy ...
is illegal. That means you cannot induce somebody to breach their NDA to reveal something covered by the NDA.
Now, what exactly constitutes such an inducement, neither I nor any other layman can tell and will take a lawyer or even a court to determine on a case by case basis. However, I think it is reasonable to say that Slashdot is in the clear when it reports that some other web site has reported this or that story.
This is all the more so when the story is accompanied by circumstancial speculation like "somebody mentioned that stock in these and those stores are running low which is often an indicator for a new release of XYZ" because the conclusion that some release is about to happen is then derived from a number of indicators some of which are public domain.
You really can't see the difference? *pause*
WHOA!!
Okay. Here it goes. Apple's NDA is an agreement between two parties to work together with a promise that one party or both parties agree(s) not to run their mouth to the world in their course of collaboration legally. Once the contract is signed, both parties entered a legally binding contract that can be used in the court of law during lawsuits if one party breaks a confidentiality agreement.
Your "ThinkSecret's NDA" is not formally drafted and signed by both parties. Furthermore, the promise to not disclose the identity of the source is exchanged for informations that are obtained by breaching a legally binding contract which in itself is against the law.
You tell me. Does a court ever recognize contracts on illegal activities?
1. As a professional journalist, Mr. Rothenberg is a fact-reporter, not an opinion-maker. Any "opinion-making" capability is in your head. Besides we are taking about facts not opinions--either Apple will make an announcement on April 1 or they will not, end of story. An opinion would be whether it will be a worthwhile update, how buggy it will be, etc.
2. The "court of public opinion" is an essentially meaningless concept developed by defense attorneys for the sole purpose of justifying venue changes. Even supposing it exists in any real way, it does not have the power to rule on court cases. Therefore, who cares.
3. Apple can file a suit when it feels like, just like anyone else. However for the suit to move forward, they will need to quantify, in a very exact way, how the prior disclosure of their OS release date injured the sales of the product. Such quantifications almost always depend on providing advantages to competitors. Since Apple is the only company that provides versions of or updates to OSX at the moment, they have no competitors in this particular market. That's why I agree with Matthew that they would have no case if they chose to sue.
Actually a corporation is an individual. But that's not what he was talking about. Please explain why you believe there is hypocrisy here (other than your own commentary).
They strive to imitate OSX because it is a beautiful, useful GUI that just works well.
They already imitate the ancient,ugly, slow, and outdated Xerox PARC GUI.
" I was around when only trolls might have defended the notion of a large company using trade secret law to trump the free speech rights of independent journalists"
Perhaps people have grown up and deciced respecting the law is a good thing?
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Mr. Rothenberg's "ethics" call for keeping information secret if a corporation like his pal's, de Plume Organization LLC, chooses to deem the information secret. If Apple chooses to deem information secret, Mr Rothenberg invokes "public interest" to reveal those secrets. Whether the information is confidential is solely determined by Mr. Rothenberg's friendliness with the person keeping the secret. It's not a principle he's upholding: he's quite acknowledged by his behavior that "friendly" corporations have a right to have their secrets respected.
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To quote the judge's own words:
The people being sued have yet to show
" why citizens have a right to know the private and secret information of a business entity, be it Apple, H-P, a law firm, a newspaper . .
As noted in the MacRumors Forums, the 1st coincides with the release of these two tiger books
The missing Manual: tiger ed.
O'Reilly's learning Unix for Tiger
based on this, I'd be bullish on it being announced on the 1st.
Apple is a huge, drawn out April Fools gag!
[just kidding]
"[Regarding the 'cloud,'] ownership was what made America different than Russia." -- Woz
2 things:
#1, the mini is faster than your pb.
#2, yes, you can install anywhere (if my memory serves)
#3, RAM is everything. get a mini with 1 GB ram and you'll be happy for a long time still
haha, i can't count
10.1 was a major update and it was free to those who had purchased 10.0.
When did Think Secret use the courts to get Apple to reveal secret information? Get back to me when that event happens and we'll talk about hypocrisy.
Built in firewire is the key, but 2 GB only? I seem to get 4.6 GB with the standard installation ... even with language packs removed, it is still past 3 GB ... and not even containing iLife.
I use WinXP every day at work, and every time I try to do anything more than basic web browsing or exceed-ing into our linux dev boxen, I find the taskbar painfil to use.
The Dock is such a better piece of UI it's not even funny. Tog's angsty rants be damned. The dock is actually usable, clean, and almost never confusing. This is in sharp contrast to the hideous nightmare of the XP taskbar. You never know how XP is going to organize your tasks next. Will it collapse? Will it move things? Will it get angry if I add another mini-launcher icon? Are there any mini-launcher icons obscured because that little pane doesn't autoresize when I add things?
And the world of pain you can experience by making that thing taller? Oh god. The horrors. And I pray that you're prepared to do a lot of guesswork, because thosebars are NEVER long enough to give you any real data. And what happens when you use an app supporting MDI? Suddenly, your cluttered taskbar has no clue what's going on, so it isn't even like the taskbar is smarter than the dock.
The Dock may not be what you expect it to be, but when used for what it's designed for, it's a very useful tool.
If you do require window-specific switching, try using Witch.
Slashdot. It's Not For Common Sense
I'd have to say that Apple has demontrated a sense of humor.
When Carl Sagan objected to an *internal* product codename of "Carl Sagan", they renamed it "BHA" ( short for Butt Head Astronomer)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_sagan/
My, did I love the push-news mini-epoch/moment in the mid 90's when POINTCAST distributed a free screen saver, which pushed headlines/updates/sports scores to my screen.
It's finally back... in the form of Tiger/RSS. Well, it took ten years... but hey, I'm happy.
yippie ki yi yey varmits.
~
If I were think secret, I would make a whole bunch of claims that turn out to be false, on purpose. After all, it would be in their best interest to look like they don't know the difference between rumors and inside information right about now...
The reason that it can be true that 1+1 > 2 is that very peculiar nonzero value of the + operator
Right.
I had the opportunity to play with the beta on a friend's PowerBook G4 15". We both have the same series machine, with same ram, cpu, hda, etc, and performance appeared to be vastly improved in 10.4 when compared to 10.3
Because expression is the foundation of a free society. It is more important to keep the society free than to foster commercial interests. The wealth of the owners is not synonymous with, and frequently is inimical to, the good of the many.
Microsoft do not make modems.
Modem makers make modems.
Why would Microsoft write a driver for another manufacturer's product?
In response to the first post above, contracts don't have to be written and signed. Dig through _West's Business Law_ for some discussion and precedent. The real proof is in the behavior of the people who made the agreement. If two parties act like they signed a contract, the courts will generally rule that a contract exists.
In response to the post directly above, a contract can be illegal and still exist. The court will refuse to enforce an illegal contract, and will often tell people to give back what they took under the terms of an illegal contract, but that doesn't stop the contract from existing. Yes, that's a fiddly distinction, but we are talking about law, here.
Besides, I agree that the sources did something illegal, that the ThinkSecret NDA doesn't provide a legal excuse to keep those identities secret, and that the judge made the correct ruling. But I've seen too many people denouncing Apple, the judge, the law, and society in general because they think NDAs shouldn't exist, all the while demanding that ThinkSecret's NDA be judged legal and enforcable.