1. OpenSource programmers will stop making kernel mods and other fun hacks and come together to make a good office suite for Linux.
2. That after hell freezes over and #1 above happens that they should make it look and act like Microsoft Office.
3. That the programmers can even see the screenshots as if the server was not already slashdotted into oblivion.
But I don't remenbar any spelling errars. So. Good Article Slashdot !!
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// [And besides, anyone who is smart enough to entertain really intelligent people ought to be doing something more productive with his life than masquerading as a glorified court jester.]//
Yeah, they should be doing something really important like janitoring data for some moronic company that talks about TCO and ROI. Maybe they should be miserable shmoes like you. You are a really smart troll right ?
Nerds are soft. They go to school and take a couple of bumps from the pack and then they go running and delve into something not to feel the pain. Maybe computers, video games, collecting... something that disconnects them from their pain.
It helps them so they do it some more and more... Pretty soon they are really cut off from the pack with just a few other zealot nerd friends. They probably are even being friendly in a classical sense. If they are nerds they probably spend their time arguing with one another.
Zealots tend to only take care of one thing or a couple of things in their life with any real devotion. Everything else suffers. They often aren't in shape, can't hold a good conversation, can't pick up the girls, won't take time to develop common interests to bullshit with the rest of the pack. Nerds (zealots) are rebels. I like rebels.
A rebels place is outside of the pack though. If you are outside of the pack stop looking for a place to put the blame. Either ride your life that way or jump back in the pack. After a little bit of learning you will find that your superimposed world does not fit the one you live in. After the inevitable ego burst, you will begin to re-introduce yourself to the pack.
It won't be easy at first. But if you are smart you wil eventually learn to thrive there.
In my opinion the last Star Wars was a movie that tryed to appeal to all people with all of the smarmy crap Jar Jar included.
The last Lord of the Ring movie was still a bit to kitchy for cynical ol me. But at least there was some continuity.
Technology always hits art below the belt with a kind of a 'wow' factor before it really changes the genre.
You can see this way back in the Ren paintings when people used varying mathematical techniques to create the illusion of perspective for the first time. Now, the use of perspective is very effective and has changed the genre of painting as an art.
//It is nearly a year since NewsWireless Net warned of the disasters looming if American wireless manufacturers went ahead with 802.11g - the go-faster WiFi standard. Now, we hear of incompatibility problems between rival 11g products - discovered in "secret" testing sessions. Are we really supposed to be surprised?//
No. You should not be suprised. You should freakin' know that American companies innovation has always led to a stickier integration of protocols in the "new world". Check out our cell phone network, check out all our different versions of SMPTE (that are just starting to go away). Check out blah !!
You (English) and the rest of Europe should know that this is the way we Americans do things. America is not a country of general consensus like European countries often are. Americans would rather build thirteen more prototypes while the Europeans wear funny wigs and fillerbuster parliament.
I lived in Europe all of last year. I absolutely loved it. Europe has an awesome cell phone network and great civilized (non-violent) cities and blah blah blah. But I am sick of the peanut gallery mentality of Europeans when ever the US does something while they sit on their hands.
Americans do what Americans do because to be American is not to be grounded in centuries of 'sensible' European thought. Get it or don't.
This is a good argument but you are not seeing the whole picture.
You are arguing that the individual needs to see the added price as being justified. This is not where the dollars come from.
Most of the people that would be likely to use this are business passengers. The service will make or break itself in whether they can expense it back to their company or not.
If enough executives find it useful, and the companies decide to expense the service for the non ueber-class of technies and middle managers and engineer schmoes then the service will profit.
I would'nt buy it on a short trip. But, last I checked, big-stupid-executive-morons-at-big-companies get what they want. If the accounting team for that company has to make a rule regarding expenses then they are going to treat themselves too.
//No, it would be because they did it on the Apple model. Take an open source core and heavily wrap it in a propriatary shell.//
If they did as much intelligent engineering and selfless thought to a good, well supported interface as Apple has, you may find yourself liking the shell.
In short OSX rocks. While others here bitch about Microsoft products and still others bitch about application support and Linux desktop issues, you don't hear a lot of people bitching about OSX.
It's a good model. If you could put a good desktop on linux you would have a killer system. Even if you could just put a windows XP desktop on Linux you would have a good system. I would fork over the dough for a good linux desktop that had broad application support just as I did for OSX ontop of BSD.
*nix has networking and stability issues pretty much down. It's the interface and the applications that kill it for a desktop OS.
So, you can run tcpdump. Do you want a medal ? So your rsync server ran slow. Wahh. You come across like it is only happening to you. The whole friggin 'net was having problems.
Relax. Do what you can, and then relax.
Why isn't your server on a switched port anyways ? Duh!! Maybe work on fixing that instead of crying in your beer. If you are not using switched ports for your servers then the rest of your network probably sucks as well.
There, now you have something to do besides check your rsync all day, (besides post to slashdot).
Maybe next time you could properly find out how it's hammering your router and prepare a solution. That is if they even let you near routers in that place.
//...and once you have it tested there is a little thing called SMS from MS it makes deployments like this snap.//
This must be a troll right ? I have never seen a well working implementation of SMS and I have been been a consultant to a few dozen fortune 500 companies.
Any company smart enough to have a well working, well staffed integration lab will have done of enough TCO testing to generally go with Oracle on a *nix platform. Further, a larger company like that is almost always migrating from big blue iron to midrange stuff anyways.
SMS.... *giggle*....BUHAHAHAHAHA!! What trade garbage have you been reading ?
//Our military is a professional military knowing that they will be called into action... and know the consequences. I wonder, what country are you from? I'm sure at some point in your history, we have saved your ass from a problem or two.//
He's German. Look at his reffered webpage. So no, we have not saved his country's ass. We did give his a country a good 'ol thumping for being little biatches though.
I don't believe in the war but, after living in Europe for a year, I do believe that some Europeans have their heads up their asses.
Some Al Queda were trained in camps run by the ever profiteering Germans that is where they learned to deploy chemical weapons.
Chancellor Kole can kiss this red blooded American's ass.
3.5 mile commute and you need a electric scooter with a gps and other nerd toys. I don't get you. You could do that on a bike and have even more time for _not_ exercising. Hell, you could have more time for eating. 3.5 miles is _jogging_ distance. Or walking distance for that matter.
What were you doing with a car anyways ?
Sounds like a toy and a geek and I don't want to offend you, but, look at what you are saying ? its 3.5 to 4 miles each way. That's nothing.
I do think that you are commendable for having sense to live so close to your work and not creating commute problems to begin with.
If you are a total science fiction zealot with 4000 books in your house many that you have read multiple times, then maybe, just maybe, you should change.
You could do one of a few things. Perhaps you could write your own science fiction book and present it to the many publishers of the books you own. Maybe, you could find another form of art that interests you are pursue it. Maybe you could change your life to be closer to that which you like so much.
//These people aren't giving up, and if it gets me more episodes of the show, I have to say more power to them. This thing has gone farther than any save-our-show campaign I can recall...it's going to be interesting to see where it ends.//
If you like the show why don't you _do_something about it ??
Maybe because you are all snuggled up in your nerd nest by the computer and you can play some dorky computer game instead or write code (like html).
Nerds are passive losers.
I could walk in your house smack you on the nose and smash your trinitron and you would post to slashdot about how crime is rampant.
I could kick your ass but you could kick my ass on a playstation.
//Geeks are now starting to get Macs, instead of developing for Linux they're playing with all the cool stuff on their mac.//
You are trying to tell me that I like linux more than a Mac with OSX for the desktop ?? Who are you trying to kid ?
I have run linux since.93 infomagic dist. No, f'in way that it even compares to OSX on the desktop.
I use it for cool routers, great file servers and ftp, nfs, samba...
But for the desktop ? What are you smoking ?
OSX smokes linux and the applications you can run on a mac smokes everything I have run.
You stick with your crap hardware and KDE. I need to get work done on my desktop.
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This article presupposes three things.
1. OpenSource programmers will stop making kernel mods and other fun hacks and come together to make a good office suite for Linux.
2. That after hell freezes over and #1 above happens that they should make it look and act like Microsoft Office.
3. That the programmers can even see the screenshots as if the server was not already slashdotted into oblivion.
But I don't remenbar any spelling errars. So. Good Article Slashdot !!
// [And besides, anyone who is smart enough to entertain really intelligent people ought to be doing something more productive with his life than masquerading as a glorified court jester.] //
Yeah, they should be doing something really important like janitoring data for some moronic company that talks about TCO and ROI. Maybe they should be miserable shmoes like you. You are a really smart troll right ?
Yeah, I remember telnet.
.... hours since I have used telnet.
It's been like
Those were the days.
Nerds are soft. They go to school and take a couple of bumps from the pack and then they go running and delve into something not to feel the pain. Maybe computers, video games, collecting ... something that disconnects them from their pain.
...
It helps them so they do it some more and more
Pretty soon they are really cut off from the pack with just a few other zealot nerd friends. They probably are even being friendly in a classical sense. If they are nerds they probably spend their time arguing with one another.
Zealots tend to only take care of one thing or a couple of things in their life with any real devotion. Everything else suffers. They often aren't in shape, can't hold a good conversation, can't pick up the girls, won't take time to develop common interests to bullshit with the rest of the pack. Nerds (zealots) are rebels. I like rebels.
A rebels place is outside of the pack though. If you are outside of the pack stop looking for a place to put the blame. Either ride your life that way or jump back in the pack. After a little bit of learning you will find that your superimposed world does not fit the one you live in. After the inevitable ego burst, you will begin to re-introduce yourself to the pack.
It won't be easy at first. But if you are smart you wil eventually learn to thrive there.
It's working for me.
Good Luck Nerds.
Yup.
In my opinion the last Star Wars was a movie that tryed to appeal to all people with all of the smarmy crap Jar Jar included.
The last Lord of the Ring movie was still a bit to kitchy for cynical ol me. But at least there was some continuity.
Technology always hits art below the belt with a kind of a 'wow' factor before it really changes the genre.
You can see this way back in the Ren paintings when people used varying mathematical techniques to create the illusion of perspective for the first time. Now, the use of perspective is very effective and has changed the genre of painting as an art.
Now, back to my preciousssss!
//It is nearly a year since NewsWireless Net warned of the disasters looming if American wireless manufacturers went ahead with 802.11g - the go-faster WiFi standard. Now, we hear of incompatibility problems between rival 11g products - discovered in "secret" testing sessions. Are we really supposed to be surprised?//
No. You should not be suprised. You should freakin' know that American companies innovation has always led to a stickier integration of protocols in the "new world". Check out our cell phone network, check out all our different versions of SMPTE (that are just starting to go away). Check out blah !!
You (English) and the rest of Europe should know that this is the way we Americans do things. America is not a country of general consensus like European countries often are. Americans would rather build thirteen more prototypes while the Europeans wear funny wigs and fillerbuster parliament.
I lived in Europe all of last year. I absolutely loved it. Europe has an awesome cell phone network and great civilized (non-violent) cities and blah blah blah. But I am sick of the peanut gallery mentality of Europeans when ever the US does something while they sit on their hands.
Americans do what Americans do because to be American is not to be grounded in centuries of 'sensible' European thought. Get it or don't.
*relaxes*
Peace.
This is a good argument but you are not seeing the whole picture.
You are arguing that the individual needs to see the added price as being justified. This is not where the dollars come from.
Most of the people that would be likely to use this are business passengers. The service will make or break itself in whether they can expense it back to their company or not.
If enough executives find it useful, and the companies decide to expense the service for the non ueber-class of technies and middle managers and engineer schmoes then the service will profit.
I would'nt buy it on a short trip. But, last I checked, big-stupid-executive-morons-at-big-companies get what they want. If the accounting team for that company has to make a rule regarding expenses then they are going to treat themselves too.
//So, if you want to frag in your Boeing, you'd better start a 30.000 feet high LAN party...//
That's ok. I don't care to even think about fragging while I'm in a Boeing.
MMMMKAY?
//No, it would be because they did it on the Apple model. Take an open source core and heavily wrap it in a propriatary shell.//
If they did as much intelligent engineering and selfless thought to a good, well supported interface as Apple has, you may find yourself liking the shell.
In short OSX rocks. While others here bitch about Microsoft products and still others bitch about application support and Linux desktop issues, you don't hear a lot of people bitching about OSX.
It's a good model. If you could put a good desktop on linux you would have a killer system. Even if you could just put a windows XP desktop on Linux you would have a good system. I would fork over the dough for a good linux desktop that had broad application support just as I did for OSX ontop of BSD.
*nix has networking and stability issues pretty much down. It's the interface and the applications that kill it for a desktop OS.
//Having another box in my entertainment center is not an option.//
;>)
If you had box you would not need an entertainment center
My dog would slurp up that ice cream.
But then again, he's a "bad dog".
YMMV.
I used to be hooked to Unreal Tournament and Tactical OPs and CounterStrike and Command and Conquer and Myth.
I stopped all of that. Phew.
Life seems a little empty now, but I am sure that it will pick up.
Right ??!!!!
Right ??!!!
Anyways you guys are all suckers to play those and you are wasting your life and what not.
BAD GEEKS BAD!
What ? Aren't their Nerds here. Where is the BladeRunner quote or the Blade Runner joke or whatever ?
What are you waiting for ?
Please ??
This is farging rediculous.
So, you can run tcpdump. Do you want a medal ? So your rsync server ran slow. Wahh. You come across like it is only happening to you. The whole friggin 'net was having problems.
Relax. Do what you can, and then relax.
Why isn't your server on a switched port anyways ? Duh!! Maybe work on fixing that instead of crying in your beer. If you are not using switched ports for your servers then the rest of your network probably sucks as well.
There, now you have something to do besides check your rsync all day, (besides post to slashdot).
Maybe next time you could properly find out how it's hammering your router and prepare a solution. That is if they even let you near routers in that place.
One gig is a _drop_ buddy.
//...and once you have it tested there is a little thing called SMS from MS it makes deployments like this snap.//
.... *giggle* ....BUHAHAHAHAHA!! What trade garbage have you been reading ?
This must be a troll right ? I have never seen a well working implementation of SMS and I have been been a consultant to a few dozen fortune 500 companies.
Any company smart enough to have a well working, well staffed integration lab will have done of enough TCO testing to generally go with Oracle on a *nix platform. Further, a larger company like that is almost always migrating from big blue iron to midrange stuff anyways.
SMS
Yeah, maybe give out women or something ...
//Our military is a professional military knowing that they will be called into action... and know the consequences. I wonder, what country are you from? I'm sure at some point in your history, we have saved your ass from a problem or two.//
He's German. Look at his reffered webpage. So no, we have not saved his country's ass. We did give his a country a good 'ol thumping for being little biatches though.
I don't believe in the war but, after living in Europe for a year, I do believe that some Europeans have their heads up their asses.
Some Al Queda were trained in camps run by the ever profiteering Germans that is where they learned to deploy chemical weapons.
Chancellor Kole can kiss this red blooded American's ass.
I heard that Solaris was faster and more scalable than Linux. Plus you are not bothered with kernel recompilations etc.
I think I'll download it and try it out. What the hey, it's free.
Yup. Qbert scratches it.
3.5 mile commute and you need a electric scooter with a gps and other nerd toys. I don't get you. You could do that on a bike and have even more time for _not_ exercising. Hell, you could have more time for eating. 3.5 miles is _jogging_ distance. Or walking distance for that matter.
What were you doing with a car anyways ?
Sounds like a toy and a geek and I don't want to offend you, but, look at what you are saying ? its 3.5 to 4 miles each way. That's nothing.
I do think that you are commendable for having sense to live so close to your work and not creating commute problems to begin with.
If you are a total science fiction zealot with 4000 books in your house many that you have read multiple times, then maybe, just maybe, you should change.
You could do one of a few things. Perhaps you could write your own science fiction book and present it to the many publishers of the books you own. Maybe, you could find another form of art that interests you are pursue it. Maybe you could change your life to be closer to that which you like so much.
Just a gentle clue, from one zealot to another.
The results were not pretty. Suffice to say that Spinal Tap now has a NEW drummer.
//These people aren't giving up, and if it gets me more episodes of the show, I have to say more power to them. This thing has gone farther than any save-our-show campaign I can recall...it's going to be interesting to see where it ends.//
If you like the show why don't you _do_something about it ??
Maybe because you are all snuggled up in your nerd nest by the computer and you can play some dorky computer game instead or write code (like html).
Nerds are passive losers.
I could walk in your house smack you on the nose and smash your trinitron and you would post to slashdot about how crime is rampant.
I could kick your ass but you could kick my ass on a playstation.
You make me sick. Loser.
//Geeks are now starting to get Macs, instead of developing for Linux they're playing with all the cool stuff on their mac. //
You are trying to tell me that I like linux more than a Mac with OSX for the desktop ?? Who are you trying to kid ?
I have run linux since .93 infomagic dist. No, f'in way that it even compares to OSX on the desktop.
I use it for cool routers, great file servers and ftp, nfs, samba ...
But for the desktop ? What are you smoking ?
OSX smokes linux and the applications you can run on a mac smokes everything I have run.
You stick with your crap hardware and KDE. I need to get work done on my desktop.
If not why didn't you take the body out of the pool before the paramedics arrived ?
Inquiring slashdotters wish to know whether you are a killer or not.