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Goodbye, Dolly
goombah99 writes "Dolly, the famous cloned sheep has been put to death after being diagnosed with a progressive lung disease, according to many reports. This follows on earlier reports that she was prematurely aging, including developing arthritis. While one should be cautious about drawing conclusions from a single data point, its interesting to speculate." Here is a link to her birthplace courtesy of Captain Large Face
Hello Lamb Chops !!!
This is the best thing about cloning. An endless supply of lamb chops !!!
-- You see, there would be these conclusions that you could jump to
Anti-cloning zealots are going to have a ball with this. They're going to say there will be a pattern in euthanasia of clones.
Banaaaana!
"While one should be cautious about drawing conclusions from a single data point, its interesting to speculate."
It's obviously a sign from above...
There is nothing sadder for a parent than having to burry their clone....
Somehow that just did not sound right.
While one should be cautious about drawing conclusions from a single data point, its interesting to speculate. Isn't that what Slashdot is all about?
Ya know, it was a good run for the first complex clone (mammal). I bet eventually they get the kinks worked out and cloned everything will be available. But for now, it's like the old addage: "in order to make an omlette, you have to break a few eggs."
This follows on earlier reports that she was prematurely aging, including developing arthritis.
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long. And you have burned so very, very brightly, Roy-- um, I mean Dolly.
I write in my journal
All your clones sheep are belong to us?
One of the scientists stated that the cloning process used to make Dolly might have been inefficient, and that sheep usually live 10-12 years.
I hope that the people opposed to cloing dont take her untimely death as a reason to stop further research into this field.
I for one cannot wait to see spaarti cylinders everywhere. (That was a Star Wars joke, FYI...)
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
Worst rhyme, ever.
"We had to put her to sleep," they said sheepishly. "She was in shear agony. There was mutton we could do about it."
If your bitterest enemies are people who hack the heads off civilians, then I would say you're doing something right.
I'll have my inflatable sheep to remember her by...
..Hello mint jelly!
Trolling is a art,
While one should be cautious about drawing conclusions...
It's a little late to be cautious.
Recall, however, that the success rate to at least produce Dolly was only around 1 in 200. This is still an early-stage technology, and there will be many more obstacles along the way. That, in my mind, is the major justification for a ban on human cloning at this time...
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It wasn't cloning that got her lungs - it was secondary cigarette smoke from the black sheep of the family.
SCO, Microsoft, P2P, what's your hot button?
but boy, that ass...
Now that's desirable!
Poor Dolly. It was such a lovely sheep... :(
:D
Sheep are great animals. People think they are not very intelligent, but they are, and in fact, they are extremely innocent and have a good heart. Sheep are my favorite animals.
I am thinking of creating a new kind of application distribution, called "sheepware". Each person who would like to keep using a sheepware application, will have to skip a pre-defined number of lamb meals. For example, if a sheepware application costs 3 Lambs, people will have to leave aside 3 meals of lamb chops and only eat the vegetables.
Eugenia
Although the shortening of her telomeres is well-publicized, it very well may have had nothing to do with the death. A somewhat more detailed story can be found here [Reuters].
Death By A Thousand CLITs up in da hizzle, nizzle -- fuck all y'all hataz
I've been through two marriages in the past. My first wife died at an early age of 29 from a massive heart attack and my second marriage was a nightmare from hell, that I'm now free of. When I met Jeanie, I knew I had to take it slow and easy.
Jeanie was a very nice lady in her early 40's. I myself was a few years older. Jeanie had two lovely girls. I had no children. I grew to love Jeanie and her girls and a few years later we were married.
When I met Jeanie, one of her girls was a senior in high school. Anna was six months from graduation. She was good a good looking, bright student, but very spoiled. We got along fine and a few years after Jeanie and I were wed, Anna started calling me Dad.
Jeanie's other daughter was living with her Dad some 1200 miles away. I didn't get to meet her till a few weeks before the wedding. When I met Dawn, I knew she was the free spirit of the family. Dawn was 4 years older then Anna, more mature and for sure, sexier. I'll have to be honest and admit that she did catch my eye and stirred reactions in my loins. She was a flirter and over time she did cause me to jack off thinking of her, many times.
When Anna graduated from High school, Dawn moved back home that summer. Her and Anna were going to go to college in the fall. The school was a few hundred miles away and they would room together. It was during that summer that my lust for Dawn sprouted.
I have a job that gives me the summers off. Jeanie worked days and so did Anna. Dawn was a bartender, so it meant she was home during the days with me. I didn't know if Dawn was actually showing off for me, or if that was who she was and how she acted. I was naive, so I decided it was for my benefit. She did dress more provocative when we were alone, then when others were around. Dawn was a beautiful girl. Her long curly reddish hair would swirl around her shoulders and shine in the light. The color of her hair also brought out her green eyes. Eyes that could rule me. Her lips were full and I fantasized many times about having them wrapped around my aching cock. Dawn was about 5'6" and I would guess under weight for her height. Her long legs, hips and breasts combined to makeup a very sexy body. I know I was married to her Mom, but this vixen was turning me on and I was wasting good cum into a Kleenex. It was a long... hot... exciting... summer.
Fall came and we moved the girls into there dorm room. Anna and Dawn were grateful for my help. Both girls hugged me, but Dawn's hug was more. It was done when Jeanie and Anna had left the dorm room and was very seductive. She hugged and squeezed me like she was saying goodbye to a lover. Her warm, sexy body made my cock grow hard instantly as she pressed against me. She gave me a kiss on the cheek and a very wicked smile as she backed up and said, "Thanks Daddy!"
Over the 4 years they were away at school, the flirting grew and became more intense. I, as Dawn's Stepdad, should of put a stop to it, but I couldn't, or wouldn't. I enjoyed it and even encouraged it. I was excited that a beautiful, young, sexy girl would find me attractive enough to want to flirt with me and perhaps want more?
Dawn had no serious relationships during her college years. I assumed it was because she worked and studied hard. She was a smart girl and carried an "A" average. Dawn planned to pursue her education by going after her Masters Degree.
Anna had a boyfriend and planned to move with him to Lansing, MI. Jeanie and I helped her move in June, soon after graduation. Dawn stayed in the apartment they had shared until Aug. , when she put her stuff in storage and went to find a place to stay in the new town her school was in. She found a nice 1 bedroom apartment. Dawn then came home and we made plans to move her. We rented a Ryder truck, got a ride to her stored stuff, then proceeded to load up.
When we were finished and before we ate and left town, Dawn wanted to shower at her friends house. She said, "please Daddy, I feel so sweaty. "
What could I do. I'd do anything for her.
I took a short walk while I waited and when I returned Dawn was just coming out of her friends place. She looked like she was going to a party. All made up and dressed to kill. I couldn't figure out what was going on and I also didn't care. My cock was growing and by the time I got to her, it was at full hardness.
"I can see your happy to see me Daddy! I hope the wait wasn't to long for you?" Dawn added.
I tried to stop my eyes from ogling her body, but I couldn't. She was wearing a black silk blouse, knee length skirt with nylon stockings. Her lips were a soft shade of red and she smelled fantastic. I had never seen this side of my stepdaughter before. Oh don't get me wrong. I've seen her dressed up before and looking nice, but today she was more then that. She had this mature sexiness about her. Let's face it, she was downright gorgeous. It was going to be a long ride home, or was it?
"No Honey, it wasn't, but why are you all dressed up?" I asked.
"We are going to stop to eat and I wanted to look nice for you Daddy. Are you upset?" she asked.
"Oh no Honey, I'm not upset. You look beautiful, but now I feel grubby. " I answered.
"You look great to me Daddy, but if you want to freshen up, you can use my friends washroom. "
"That would be a great idea Sweetie. I do smell. "
I went in and took a quick shower. I had a clean shirt, but that was it. I left my underwear off as I slipped my pants back on. I felt better, but my cock was still slightly hard and aching. It was time to go.
I got into the truck as Dawn said goodbye to her friend. I kept my eyes on my stepdaughter. I couldn't help myself. As Dawn was getting into the truck, her skirt hiked up showing me more of herself. I could see where her stockings ended and the red straps of what I assumed was a garter, holding them up. Her blouse also seemed to have a few more buttons undone then before. That allowed me to see that her bra was also red. I had found out earlier that Dawn loved to wear sexy lingerie. That's because, I've used her soiled panties many times to jack off.
"All set Daddy, lets go. I'm starving!"
"Me too Honey, " I said.
To myself I was thinking, Me too Honey, but for you, not food.
As we got out of the truck at the supper club, Dawn held my hand as we walked in. Feeling no resistance, she said to me, "I love you Daddy!"
"I love you too, Honey!"
The club wasn't very busy and we got a somewhat secluded booth. I was driving, so it was coffee for me. Dawn had a wine. Again I marveled at how beautiful she was, especially in the glow of candle light. We ordered, then Dawn said, "I have something to tell you Daddy and I don't want you to butt in till I'm done. "
"Since I've met you Daddy, you have been more of a Father to me and Anna, then our real Dad. You are more caring, more loving and helpful. You don't criticize our decisions, instead you support them, right or wrong. You never judge us and only love us for whom we are. For what I'm going to say next, I'll need all these things from you, Daddy. " She paused then continued, "I want you to make love to me tonight, Daddy. I've wanted you for a long time now. I love you. "
"I love you too Honey, but it would not be right. I know it wouldn't be incest, but what about your Mother? Could we handle this?"
"I know it would be hard Daddy, but I want you so bad, that I'm ready to deal with it. I know you want me. I've seen the bulges in your pants and I've seen the cum stains in my panties. You can't deny it?"
"No honey, I can't, I do want you, but flirting and fantasizing are one thing. To act on those feelings are another. "
Our food came then. We continued to talk as we ate. After we were finished, Dawn laid her cards on the table.
"You know where the Clear Lake roadside park is don't you. "
"Yes, I know. "
As she continued, her toes started to rub my aching cock. "We could pull off there and act like we were tired and getting some rest. It's hardly used anyways. It'll be up to you Daddy. If you want me, just pull in and all I have is yours for the taking. If you pass it by, I'll try to never put you in this position again. You'll have about 45 min. till we get there to decide. Agreed?"
"Agreed, but you better stop rubbing my cock or I'm going to cum in my pants. "
"I wouldn't want to waste it there Daddy. After I found out you were using my panties to cum in, I would check them. If I found a recent stain, I would taste it. I love your scent and taste Daddy, but now I want fresh. She pulled her toes away and we left.
In the truck, Dawn was doing everything she could to influence my decision. She opened her blouse and tempted me with her hard nipples that were showing through the sheer material of her bra. She slid her skirt up far enough, so I could just see the start of her panties. She would put one hand under her skirt and rub herself, while caressing her breasts with the other. She would moan with pleasure and say, "these could be your hands making me moan Daddy. "
I was in agony as the miles went by. Hormones were winning out over reason. With a few miles to go, I knew I would turn off. I couldn't help myself. I wanted to fuck... and be sucked... by my stepdaughter so bad, I would risk everything. As the Clear Lake road came into view, the sun had just set. As I put my blinker on and slowed, Dawn screamed. She quickly slid over next to me and started kissing my neck and rubbing my cock with her hand.
"You will never regret this Daddy. I will be yours anytime you want me. Oh... I love you so much! I never thought I would have you. I'm so happy, so excited. Hurry up and get this truck parked. "
As she said that, she unzipped me and started sucking on my cock.
I would cum soon. Dawn was doing a super job fondling my balls while she sucked my cock. As I put the truck into reverse to back into a secluded part of the park, Dawn stuck a finger up my ass and that's all it took. I hit the brakes, closed my eyes and filled my stepdaughters mouth with my cum.
"Oh... fuck Sweetie, suck me, suck Daddy's hot cock. I'm cumming Sweetie, I'm cumming!" I pulled her head down on my spurting cock and Dawn swallowed most of it. What she missed she quickly licked up. When she finished, I finished parking the truck.
"Did you enjoy the way I sucked your cock, Daddy?"
"Oh... very much so Honey! That was the most explosive orgasm I can remember. "
"I'm so happy Daddy, you tasted so... good. All you have to do is ask Daddy and I'll suck your cock anytime. I'm all yours. "
Dawn then slid into my arms and we started kissing. The taste of my own cum was still in her mouth as our tongues met. I was stimulated by it's taste, which excited my cock and made it start to grow. As I caressed Dawn's breasts, she pulled my shirt over my head. She then unsnapped my pants, giving off a soft moan, as she noticed my now hard cock.
"Lift up Daddy so I can get your pants off. "
I obeyed and soon I was naked.
"You have a great body for your age, Daddy. "
I was 48 and did jog and bike, so I was in pretty good shape.
"Thanks Honey! So do you. Now I want to see more of what I've been dreaming of for years. " I removed her blouse. Her tits sure looked hot in her sheer red bra. "I should tell you that your sexy lingerie really excites me Dawn. "
"I know Daddy. That's why I wear them. Mom mentioned one time how you like them. "
"You wear them just for me Honey?"
"Not just for you Daddy. I love the look and feel of lingerie on me too. They make me feel sexy and naughty. "
We started kissing again and this time I dropped my hand to her legs and started feeling my way upwards. As I neared her pussy, Dawn squeezed her legs shut, halting my assent.
"I trust you Daddy, because I love you so much. Please don't hurt me?"
"Never Honey. I love you too. Why would I hurt you?"
Dawn opened her legs and as my hand continued, she pulled me to her and kissed me hard. I reached her panties and as I slid my fingers between her legs, expecting to find and massage her clit, I found a big clit in the shape of a hard cock. I broke off our kiss and gave Dawn a surprised look.
"I'm sorry Daddy. I wanted you so... bad, I couldn't tell you. "
Before Dawn could say anymore I pulled her to me and kissed her. I found myself very excited. I continued to rub her cock through her sexy panties.
Before I go any further, let me tell you about my fascination with transsexuals. We got our very own PC a few years ago and while exploring the internet, I came across a site with shemales. The site of these beautiful, sexy woman with cocks excited me greatly. I found more and more sites and the more I looked, the more I fantasized. I wanted to experience loving one of these gorgeous transsexuals. I don't figure I'm gay, because the sight of a naked man doesn't excite me. But the sight of a hard cock on a beautiful woman makes me want to suck it.
My fantasies were coming true.
The feel of Dawns cock through her panties was really turning me on. It was doing wonders for Dawn too, as she was beginning to moan. "Will you suck my cock now, Daddy?"
I slid Dawn over on the seat and removed her skirt. She looked so hot in her sexy red lingerie. The sight of her hard cock pressing against her panties was almost enough to make me cum again without touching it. I started to peel Dawns panties down and as I freed her cock, it sprang up. My cock is only about 6 1/2 inches and medium thickness. Dawns cock was a little smaller, but about the same thickness. An added turn on was, she was hairless.
"Now Daddy, take me in your mouth and suck my cock. I want you to taste my cum. "
I started by stroking her stiff cock. I've jacked off many times, so I knew what she would like. Next I lowered my mouth and began by licking and tasting some of her pre cum. Enjoying that, I opened my mouth and took Dawn's cock in. It was everything I thought it would be and more. I kept my mouth closed tight and while Dawn brought her hands to the back of my head and helped me by holding it steady, she slowly fucked my mouth. The feel of her cock sliding in and out of my mouth as I sucked it was driving me crazy. I used my tongue to tease the sensitive parts of Dawn's cock, which encouraged her moaning and talking dirty to me. "oh... yes, suck me Daddy, suck your little girls throbbing dick. That's it Daddy, lick the head, oh... don't stop. It feels so good. " I sucked, while she continued to slowly fuck my mouth. I was also caressing her tits and rubbing her legs and balls. I could sense my Honey was on the verge and so on I was rewarded with my first mouthful of cum.
Dawn's body shook as she rammed her cock deep into my mouth, while holding my head screaming, "I'm cumming... Daddy!" I gagged a little, but swallowed most of Dawns seed. What I missed I licked up. I loved it. Her cum tasted so... good. It had a strong scent and was slightly salty.
"Oh Daddy, you made me feel so... good and so... loved. "
I raised up and kissed her. "I loved it too, Sweetheart. Your cock felt so good in my mouth and when you came, the warmth, the creaminess, the scent and taste of it made me want to drink it all down. "
"Before we go, I want you to fuck me. I want to feel your cock up my ass when you cum Daddy. I've had many sexual objects up my ass, but I'm a virgin when it comes to a live dick. Be my first, Daddy?"
"Anytime Sweetie. Your ass will be a first for me too. "
Dawn reached into her purse a pulled out a bottle of jell. She put some into her hand and some into mine. "You get my ass ready, Daddy, while I get your cock ready to slide in. "
I was so hard. Dawn's fingers felt so good as they readied my cock. I in turn used my finger's to lubricate her waiting ass. When all was in ready, Dawn got on her knees and offered her virgin ass to me. I got on my knees behind her and slid my cock to the entrance of her ass. Thank goodness there was plenty of room in the cab of this truck.
"Now Daddy, slowly push in. "
I did as I was told and slowly slid my cock into Dawn's waiting ass. It was tight, tighter then anything I've ever experienced with my cock. It was tight for Dawn too, but soon she relaxed her muscles and my cock slid in and out with more ease.
"That's it, fuck my ass, Daddy. Oh... fuck me till you cum in me. I want to feel your hot cum in my ass. "
"Your so tight Honey. I never felt anything so... good before. You may be spoiling me Sweetie. I may not want pussy again. " As my fucking grew more intense, I reached under Dawn and started to pump her now hard cock.
"Oh Daddy, your hot cock sure feels better then the penis replicas I'm use to using. Keep fucking me Daddy and don't stop jacking me off. I want us to cum... together. "
We were both close now. I could feel the cum in me about to explode into Dawn's ass. "I'm cumming sweetheart. I can't hold back any longer. " I shot my hot seed into my Stepdaughters accepting ass.
"I'm cumming too Daddy" and her hot seed covered the seat of the truck. A waste I know, but this was my first time, forgive me.
I continued to fuck her ass until my cock started to soften. I was disappointed to have to pull out, but I knew there would be many times to love Dawn. Dawn took out some towelettes from her purse and cleaned my cock. I wiped her ass clean.
We did some more kissing and Dawn reassured me that she's mine whenever I wanted her. I also told her that I'm hers whenever she needed me. Then we dressed. Dawn threw on pants and sweatshirt for the ride home.
Before we left Dawn said, "next time, I get your virgin ass, Daddy. "
All I said to that was, "I hope it's soon Honey. "
We talked on the way home and she told me how she came to be a pre-op transsexual.
I asked her if she had any type of sexual experience before or was it strictly self pleasure.
She told me of sex with a few of her girlfriends, but it was what she told me next that got me excited all over again. Her and her sister Anna have been having sex together for over 6 years now. They were sisters who were close and enjoyed pleasing each other. They also kept no secrets and Anna knew of her passion for me. Then she told me Anna found me sexy too and that someday, maybe, we could have a threesome.
I told Dawn, "Someday Honey, but for now I want to love and enjoy you. You have so much to offer and I want to experience all of you. "
My stepdaughter kissed me saying, "Anything you want Daddy. I Love You!"
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I heard her evil twin did it!
the preceding comment is my own and in no way reflects the opinion of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
Death By A Thousand CLITs up in da hizzle, nizzle -- fuck all y'all hataz
I've been through two marriages in the past. My first wife died at an early age of 29 from a massive heart attack and my second marriage was a nightmare from hell, that I'm now free of. When I met Jeanie, I knew I had to take it slow and easy.
Jeanie was a very nice lady in her early 40's. I myself was a few years older. Jeanie had two lovely girls. I had no children. I grew to love Jeanie and her girls and a few years later we were married.
When I met Jeanie, one of her girls was a senior in high school. Anna was six months from graduation. She was good a good looking, bright student, but very spoiled. We got along fine and a few years after Jeanie and I were wed, Anna started calling me Dad.
Jeanie's other daughter was living with her Dad some 1200 miles away. I didn't get to meet her till a few weeks before the wedding. When I met Dawn, I knew she was the free spirit of the family. Dawn was 4 years older then Anna, more mature and for sure, sexier. I'll have to be honest and admit that she did catch my eye and stirred reactions in my loins. She was a flirter and over time she did cause me to jack off thinking of her, many times.
When Anna graduated from High school, Dawn moved back home that summer. Her and Anna were going to go to college in the fall. The school was a few hundred miles away and they would room together. It was during that summer that my lust for Dawn sprouted.
I have a job that gives me the summers off. Jeanie worked days and so did Anna. Dawn was a bartender, so it meant she was home during the days with me. I didn't know if Dawn was actually showing off for me, or if that was who she was and how she acted. I was naive, so I decided it was for my benefit. She did dress more provocative when we were alone, then when others were around. Dawn was a beautiful girl. Her long curly reddish hair would swirl around her shoulders and shine in the light. The color of her hair also brought out her green eyes. Eyes that could rule me. Her lips were full and I fantasized many times about having them wrapped around my aching cock. Dawn was about 5'6" and I would guess under weight for her height. Her long legs, hips and breasts combined to makeup a very sexy body. I know I was married to her Mom, but this vixen was turning me on and I was wasting good cum into a Kleenex. It was a long... hot... exciting... summer.
Fall came and we moved the girls into there dorm room. Anna and Dawn were grateful for my help. Both girls hugged me, but Dawn's hug was more. It was done when Jeanie and Anna had left the dorm room and was very seductive. She hugged and squeezed me like she was saying goodbye to a lover. Her warm, sexy body made my cock grow hard instantly as she pressed against me. She gave me a kiss on the cheek and a very wicked smile as she backed up and said, "Thanks Daddy!"
Over the 4 years they were away at school, the flirting grew and became more intense. I, as Dawn's Stepdad, should of put a stop to it, but I couldn't, or wouldn't. I enjoyed it and even encouraged it. I was excited that a beautiful, young, sexy girl would find me attractive enough to want to flirt with me and perhaps want more?
Dawn had no serious relationships during her college years. I assumed it was because she worked and studied hard. She was a smart girl and carried an "A" average. Dawn planned to pursue her education by going after her Masters Degree.
Anna had a boyfriend and planned to move with him to Lansing, MI. Jeanie and I helped her move in June, soon after graduation. Dawn stayed in the apartment they had shared until Aug. , when she put her stuff in storage and went to find a place to stay in the new town her school was in. She found a nice 1 bedroom apartment. Dawn then came home and we made plans to move her. We rented a Ryder truck, got a ride to her stored stuff, then proceeded to load up.
When we were finished and before we ate and left town, Dawn wanted to shower at her friends house. She said, "please Daddy, I feel so sweaty. "
What could I do. I'd do anything for her.
I took a short walk while I waited and when I returned Dawn was just coming out of her friends place. She looked like she was going to a party. All made up and dressed to kill. I couldn't figure out what was going on and I also didn't care. My cock was growing and by the time I got to her, it was at full hardness.
"I can see your happy to see me Daddy! I hope the wait wasn't to long for you?" Dawn added.
I tried to stop my eyes from ogling her body, but I couldn't. She was wearing a black silk blouse, knee length skirt with nylon stockings. Her lips were a soft shade of red and she smelled fantastic. I had never seen this side of my stepdaughter before. Oh don't get me wrong. I've seen her dressed up before and looking nice, but today she was more then that. She had this mature sexiness about her. Let's face it, she was downright gorgeous. It was going to be a long ride home, or was it?
"No Honey, it wasn't, but why are you all dressed up?" I asked.
"We are going to stop to eat and I wanted to look nice for you Daddy. Are you upset?" she asked.
"Oh no Honey, I'm not upset. You look beautiful, but now I feel grubby. " I answered.
"You look great to me Daddy, but if you want to freshen up, you can use my friends washroom. "
"That would be a great idea Sweetie. I do smell. "
I went in and took a quick shower. I had a clean shirt, but that was it. I left my underwear off as I slipped my pants back on. I felt better, but my cock was still slightly hard and aching. It was time to go.
I got into the truck as Dawn said goodbye to her friend. I kept my eyes on my stepdaughter. I couldn't help myself. As Dawn was getting into the truck, her skirt hiked up showing me more of herself. I could see where her stockings ended and the red straps of what I assumed was a garter, holding them up. Her blouse also seemed to have a few more buttons undone then before. That allowed me to see that her bra was also red. I had found out earlier that Dawn loved to wear sexy lingerie. That's because, I've used her soiled panties many times to jack off.
"All set Daddy, lets go. I'm starving!"
"Me too Honey, " I said.
To myself I was thinking, Me too Honey, but for you, not food.
As we got out of the truck at the supper club, Dawn held my hand as we walked in. Feeling no resistance, she said to me, "I love you Daddy!"
"I love you too, Honey!"
The club wasn't very busy and we got a somewhat secluded booth. I was driving, so it was coffee for me. Dawn had a wine. Again I marveled at how beautiful she was, especially in the glow of candle light. We ordered, then Dawn said, "I have something to tell you Daddy and I don't want you to butt in till I'm done. "
"Since I've met you Daddy, you have been more of a Father to me and Anna, then our real Dad. You are more caring, more loving and helpful. You don't criticize our decisions, instead you support them, right or wrong. You never judge us and only love us for whom we are. For what I'm going to say next, I'll need all these things from you, Daddy. " She paused then continued, "I want you to make love to me tonight, Daddy. I've wanted you for a long time now. I love you. "
"I love you too Honey, but it would not be right. I know it wouldn't be incest, but what about your Mother? Could we handle this?"
"I know it would be hard Daddy, but I want you so bad, that I'm ready to deal with it. I know you want me. I've seen the bulges in your pants and I've seen the cum stains in my panties. You can't deny it?"
"No honey, I can't, I do want you, but flirting and fantasizing are one thing. To act on those feelings are another. "
Our food came then. We continued to talk as we ate. After we were finished, Dawn laid her cards on the table.
"You know where the Clear Lake roadside park is don't you. "
"Yes, I know. "
As she continued, her toes started to rub my aching cock. "We could pull off there and act like we were tired and getting some rest. It's hardly used anyways. It'll be up to you Daddy. If you want me, just pull in and all I have is yours for the taking. If you pass it by, I'll try to never put you in this position again. You'll have about 45 min. till we get there to decide. Agreed?"
"Agreed, but you better stop rubbing my cock or I'm going to cum in my pants. "
"I wouldn't want to waste it there Daddy. After I found out you were using my panties to cum in, I would check them. If I found a recent stain, I would taste it. I love your scent and taste Daddy, but now I want fresh. She pulled her toes away and we left.
In the truck, Dawn was doing everything she could to influence my decision. She opened her blouse and tempted me with her hard nipples that were showing through the sheer material of her bra. She slid her skirt up far enough, so I could just see the start of her panties. She would put one hand under her skirt and rub herself, while caressing her breasts with the other. She would moan with pleasure and say, "these could be your hands making me moan Daddy. "
I was in agony as the miles went by. Hormones were winning out over reason. With a few miles to go, I knew I would turn off. I couldn't help myself. I wanted to fuck... and be sucked... by my stepdaughter so bad, I would risk everything. As the Clear Lake road came into view, the sun had just set. As I put my blinker on and slowed, Dawn screamed. She quickly slid over next to me and started kissing my neck and rubbing my cock with her hand.
"You will never regret this Daddy. I will be yours anytime you want me. Oh... I love you so much! I never thought I would have you. I'm so happy, so excited. Hurry up and get this truck parked. "
As she said that, she unzipped me and started sucking on my cock.
I would cum soon. Dawn was doing a super job fondling my balls while she sucked my cock. As I put the truck into reverse to back into a secluded part of the park, Dawn stuck a finger up my ass and that's all it took. I hit the brakes, closed my eyes and filled my stepdaughters mouth with my cum.
"Oh... fuck Sweetie, suck me, suck Daddy's hot cock. I'm cumming Sweetie, I'm cumming!" I pulled her head down on my spurting cock and Dawn swallowed most of it. What she missed she quickly licked up. When she finished, I finished parking the truck.
"Did you enjoy the way I sucked your cock, Daddy?"
"Oh... very much so Honey! That was the most explosive orgasm I can remember. "
"I'm so happy Daddy, you tasted so... good. All you have to do is ask Daddy and I'll suck your cock anytime. I'm all yours. "
Dawn then slid into my arms and we started kissing. The taste of my own cum was still in her mouth as our tongues met. I was stimulated by it's taste, which excited my cock and made it start to grow. As I caressed Dawn's breasts, she pulled my shirt over my head. She then unsnapped my pants, giving off a soft moan, as she noticed my now hard cock.
"Lift up Daddy so I can get your pants off. "
I obeyed and soon I was naked.
"You have a great body for your age, Daddy. "
I was 48 and did jog and bike, so I was in pretty good shape.
"Thanks Honey! So do you. Now I want to see more of what I've been dreaming of for years. " I removed her blouse. Her tits sure looked hot in her sheer red bra. "I should tell you that your sexy lingerie really excites me Dawn. "
"I know Daddy. That's why I wear them. Mom mentioned one time how you like them. "
"You wear them just for me Honey?"
"Not just for you Daddy. I love the look and feel of lingerie on me too. They make me feel sexy and naughty. "
We started kissing again and this time I dropped my hand to her legs and started feeling my way upwards. As I neared her pussy, Dawn squeezed her legs shut, halting my assent.
"I trust you Daddy, because I love you so much. Please don't hurt me?"
"Never Honey. I love you too. Why would I hurt you?"
Dawn opened her legs and as my hand continued, she pulled me to her and kissed me hard. I reached her panties and as I slid my fingers between her legs, expecting to find and massage her clit, I found a big clit in the shape of a hard cock. I broke off our kiss and gave Dawn a surprised look.
"I'm sorry Daddy. I wanted you so... bad, I couldn't tell you. "
Before Dawn could say anymore I pulled her to me and kissed her. I found myself very excited. I continued to rub her cock through her sexy panties.
Before I go any further, let me tell you about my fascination with transsexuals. We got our very own PC a few years ago and while exploring the internet, I came across a site with shemales. The site of these beautiful, sexy woman with cocks excited me greatly. I found more and more sites and the more I looked, the more I fantasized. I wanted to experience loving one of these gorgeous transsexuals. I don't figure I'm gay, because the sight of a naked man doesn't excite me. But the sight of a hard cock on a beautiful woman makes me want to suck it.
My fantasies were coming true.
The feel of Dawns cock through her panties was really turning me on. It was doing wonders for Dawn too, as she was beginning to moan. "Will you suck my cock now, Daddy?"
I slid Dawn over on the seat and removed her skirt. She looked so hot in her sexy red lingerie. The sight of her hard cock pressing against her panties was almost enough to make me cum again without touching it. I started to peel Dawns panties down and as I freed her cock, it sprang up. My cock is only about 6 1/2 inches and medium thickness. Dawns cock was a little smaller, but about the same thickness. An added turn on was, she was hairless.
"Now Daddy, take me in your mouth and suck my cock. I want you to taste my cum. "
I started by stroking her stiff cock. I've jacked off many times, so I knew what she would like. Next I lowered my mouth and began by licking and tasting some of her pre cum. Enjoying that, I opened my mouth and took Dawn's cock in. It was everything I thought it would be and more. I kept my mouth closed tight and while Dawn brought her hands to the back of my head and helped me by holding it steady, she slowly fucked my mouth. The feel of her cock sliding in and out of my mouth as I sucked it was driving me crazy. I used my tongue to tease the sensitive parts of Dawn's cock, which encouraged her moaning and talking dirty to me. "oh... yes, suck me Daddy, suck your little girls throbbing dick. That's it Daddy, lick the head, oh... don't stop. It feels so good. " I sucked, while she continued to slowly fuck my mouth. I was also caressing her tits and rubbing her legs and balls. I could sense my Honey was on the verge and so on I was rewarded with my first mouthful of cum.
Dawn's body shook as she rammed her cock deep into my mouth, while holding my head screaming, "I'm cumming... Daddy!" I gagged a little, but swallowed most of Dawns seed. What I missed I licked up. I loved it. Her cum tasted so... good. It had a strong scent and was slightly salty.
"Oh Daddy, you made me feel so... good and so... loved. "
I raised up and kissed her. "I loved it too, Sweetheart. Your cock felt so good in my mouth and when you came, the warmth, the creaminess, the scent and taste of it made me want to drink it all down. "
"Before we go, I want you to fuck me. I want to feel your cock up my ass when you cum Daddy. I've had many sexual objects up my ass, but I'm a virgin when it comes to a live dick. Be my first, Daddy?"
"Anytime Sweetie. Your ass will be a first for me too. "
Dawn reached into her purse a pulled out a bottle of jell. She put some into her hand and some into mine. "You get my ass ready, Daddy, while I get your cock ready to slide in. "
I was so hard. Dawn's fingers felt so good as they readied my cock. I in turn used my finger's to lubricate her waiting ass. When all was in ready, Dawn got on her knees and offered her virgin ass to me. I got on my knees behind her and slid my cock to the entrance of her ass. Thank goodness there was plenty of room in the cab of this truck.
"Now Daddy, slowly push in. "
I did as I was told and slowly slid my cock into Dawn's waiting ass. It was tight, tighter then anything I've ever experienced with my cock. It was tight for Dawn too, but soon she relaxed her muscles and my cock slid in and out with more ease.
"That's it, fuck my ass, Daddy. Oh... fuck me till you cum in me. I want to feel your hot cum in my ass. "
"Your so tight Honey. I never felt anything so... good before. You may be spoiling me Sweetie. I may not want pussy again. " As my fucking grew more intense, I reached under Dawn and started to pump her now hard cock.
"Oh Daddy, your hot cock sure feels better then the penis replicas I'm use to using. Keep fucking me Daddy and don't stop jacking me off. I want us to cum... together. "
We were both close now. I could feel the cum in me about to explode into Dawn's ass. "I'm cumming sweetheart. I can't hold back any longer. " I shot my hot seed into my Stepdaughters accepting ass.
"I'm cumming too Daddy" and her hot seed covered the seat of the truck. A waste I know, but this was my first time, forgive me.
I continued to fuck her ass until my cock started to soften. I was disappointed to have to pull out, but I knew there would be many times to love Dawn. Dawn took out some towelettes from her purse and cleaned my cock. I wiped her ass clean.
We did some more kissing and Dawn reassured me that she's mine whenever I wanted her. I also told her that I'm hers whenever she needed me. Then we dressed. Dawn threw on pants and sweatshirt for the ride home.
Before we left Dawn said, "next time, I get your virgin ass, Daddy. "
All I said to that was, "I hope it's soon Honey. "
We talked on the way home and she told me how she came to be a pre-op transsexual.
I asked her if she had any type of sexual experience before or was it strictly self pleasure.
She told me of sex with a few of her girlfriends, but it was what she told me next that got me excited all over again. Her and her sister Anna have been having sex together for over 6 years now. They were sisters who were close and enjoyed pleasing each other. They also kept no secrets and Anna knew of her passion for me. Then she told me Anna found me sexy too and that someday, maybe, we could have a threesome.
I told Dawn, "Someday Honey, but for now I want to love and enjoy you. You have so much to offer and I want to experience all of you. "
My stepdaughter kissed me saying, "Anything you want Daddy. I Love You!"
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How long do sheep normally live?
what my prick has to do with (and to) a cloned sheep. Or a good-ole-fashioned home grown sheep as well. Hell a little lamb, and when I'm done I'll turn that slut Mary into a pincushion. I'll pump them all so full of air that you'll mistake them for a Macy's parade balloon, then flip em over and try to pop them!
Remember, Blade Runner (and Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?) had such first...
In fact, isn't it a bit ironic that a sheep is prematurely aging, versus the mechanical fake sheep (and title) in Philip K. Dick's novel?
IBM had PL/1, with syntax worse than JOSS,
And everywhere the language went, it was a total loss...
this is good...
i was all set to make believe i saw ufos so i could join up with the raelians. i don't know how long i could have maintained that lie. but since these are the only folks who will cut off the head of my clone and put my brain in his shell, what can a craven mortal do?
since it looks like all this cloning stuff won't give me unlimited life yet, now i don't have to maintain the charade.
i'm going to tell those raelians the truth and give them a piece of my mind!
oh wait, er...
intellectual property law is philosophically incoherent. it is your moral duty to ignore it or sabotage it
That'll do.
is 10-14 years. Dolly lived to be 6+.
Not to draw any conclusions, but I don't think too many people will be taken back by this, unless of course you were one of the people who helped create Dolly and actually thought that she was completely normal.
Despite the fact I am against cloning, I would like to find out more results to this. What would the avg. lifespan be if there were 100 Dolly's (and I suppose 1,000,000 failed attempts as well). It might be interesting to know, though somewhat dusgusting to get to.
End result - this won't bode too well for cloning simply because Dolly developed this disease only half-way through her life. What will be much more interesting is to follow her child - I believe she gave birth to a female sheep in 1998 - 2 years after Dolly's birth.
"Time is long and life is short, so begin to live while you still can." -EV
There was a man shipwrecked on an island with only his dog to keep him company. After weeks and weeks of being alone, he finally found some sheep grazing in a field. The man had once heard that if you fsck a sheep it sorta feels like a woman. Being desperate, he started towards the herd. His dog immediate runs up, barks, and they all run away. The man scolds the dog, and decides to try again the following day. Again, he finds the sheep, and as he approaches, his dog again barks and chases them all away. This time the man is really pissed, and kicks the stupid dog. The following day the man decides to try again, only this time when he gets to the field, there is a beautiful woman surrounded by a pack of wolves. Thinking quickly, the man grabs his dog by the tail and uses it as a club to beat off the wolves. Grateful, the woman offers to do anything he wants. Elated, the man replies "here, hold my dog"!
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(I have no idea where this joke came from)
This is my sig. Its pathetic.
Should have. Should have.
- SHOULD HAVE!1!
Why are so many people unable to grasp even the simplest of grammar rules?Death By A Thousand CLITs up in da hizzle, nizzle -- fuck all y'all hataz
I've been through two marriages in the past. My first wife died at an early age of 29 from a massive heart attack and my second marriage was a nightmare from hell, that I'm now free of. When I met Jeanie, I knew I had to take it slow and easy.
Jeanie was a very nice lady in her early 40's. I myself was a few years older. Jeanie had two lovely girls. I had no children. I grew to love Jeanie and her girls and a few years later we were married.
When I met Jeanie, one of her girls was a senior in high school. Anna was six months from graduation. She was good a good looking, bright student, but very spoiled. We got along fine and a few years after Jeanie and I were wed, Anna started calling me Dad.
Jeanie's other daughter was living with her Dad some 1200 miles away. I didn't get to meet her till a few weeks before the wedding. When I met Dawn, I knew she was the free spirit of the family. Dawn was 4 years older then Anna, more mature and for sure, sexier. I'll have to be honest and admit that she did catch my eye and stirred reactions in my loins. She was a flirter and over time she did cause me to jack off thinking of her, many times.
When Anna graduated from High school, Dawn moved back home that summer. Her and Anna were going to go to college in the fall. The school was a few hundred miles away and they would room together. It was during that summer that my lust for Dawn sprouted.
I have a job that gives me the summers off. Jeanie worked days and so did Anna. Dawn was a bartender, so it meant she was home during the days with me. I didn't know if Dawn was actually showing off for me, or if that was who she was and how she acted. I was naive, so I decided it was for my benefit. She did dress more provocative when we were alone, then when others were around. Dawn was a beautiful girl. Her long curly reddish hair would swirl around her shoulders and shine in the light. The color of her hair also brought out her green eyes. Eyes that could rule me. Her lips were full and I fantasized many times about having them wrapped around my aching cock. Dawn was about 5'6" and I would guess under weight for her height. Her long legs, hips and breasts combined to makeup a very sexy body. I know I was married to her Mom, but this vixen was turning me on and I was wasting good cum into a Kleenex. It was a long... hot... exciting... summer.
Fall came and we moved the girls into there dorm room. Anna and Dawn were grateful for my help. Both girls hugged me, but Dawn's hug was more. It was done when Jeanie and Anna had left the dorm room and was very seductive. She hugged and squeezed me like she was saying goodbye to a lover. Her warm, sexy body made my cock grow hard instantly as she pressed against me. She gave me a kiss on the cheek and a very wicked smile as she backed up and said, "Thanks Daddy!"
Over the 4 years they were away at school, the flirting grew and became more intense. I, as Dawn's Stepdad, should of put a stop to it, but I couldn't, or wouldn't. I enjoyed it and even encouraged it. I was excited that a beautiful, young, sexy girl would find me attractive enough to want to flirt with me and perhaps want more?
Dawn had no serious relationships during her college years. I assumed it was because she worked and studied hard. She was a smart girl and carried an "A" average. Dawn planned to pursue her education by going after her Masters Degree.
Anna had a boyfriend and planned to move with him to Lansing, MI. Jeanie and I helped her move in June, soon after graduation. Dawn stayed in the apartment they had shared until Aug. , when she put her stuff in storage and went to find a place to stay in the new town her school was in. She found a nice 1 bedroom apartment. Dawn then came home and we made plans to move her. We rented a Ryder truck, got a ride to her stored stuff, then proceeded to load up.
When we were finished and before we ate and left town, Dawn wanted to shower at her friends house. She said, "please Daddy, I feel so sweaty. "
What could I do. I'd do anything for her.
I took a short walk while I waited and when I returned Dawn was just coming out of her friends place. She looked like she was going to a party. All made up and dressed to kill. I couldn't figure out what was going on and I also didn't care. My cock was growing and by the time I got to her, it was at full hardness.
"I can see your happy to see me Daddy! I hope the wait wasn't to long for you?" Dawn added.
I tried to stop my eyes from ogling her body, but I couldn't. She was wearing a black silk blouse, knee length skirt with nylon stockings. Her lips were a soft shade of red and she smelled fantastic. I had never seen this side of my stepdaughter before. Oh don't get me wrong. I've seen her dressed up before and looking nice, but today she was more then that. She had this mature sexiness about her. Let's face it, she was downright gorgeous. It was going to be a long ride home, or was it?
"No Honey, it wasn't, but why are you all dressed up?" I asked.
"We are going to stop to eat and I wanted to look nice for you Daddy. Are you upset?" she asked.
"Oh no Honey, I'm not upset. You look beautiful, but now I feel grubby. " I answered.
"You look great to me Daddy, but if you want to freshen up, you can use my friends washroom. "
"That would be a great idea Sweetie. I do smell. "
I went in and took a quick shower. I had a clean shirt, but that was it. I left my underwear off as I slipped my pants back on. I felt better, but my cock was still slightly hard and aching. It was time to go.
I got into the truck as Dawn said goodbye to her friend. I kept my eyes on my stepdaughter. I couldn't help myself. As Dawn was getting into the truck, her skirt hiked up showing me more of herself. I could see where her stockings ended and the red straps of what I assumed was a garter, holding them up. Her blouse also seemed to have a few more buttons undone then before. That allowed me to see that her bra was also red. I had found out earlier that Dawn loved to wear sexy lingerie. That's because, I've used her soiled panties many times to jack off.
"All set Daddy, lets go. I'm starving!"
"Me too Honey, " I said.
To myself I was thinking, Me too Honey, but for you, not food.
As we got out of the truck at the supper club, Dawn held my hand as we walked in. Feeling no resistance, she said to me, "I love you Daddy!"
"I love you too, Honey!"
The club wasn't very busy and we got a somewhat secluded booth. I was driving, so it was coffee for me. Dawn had a wine. Again I marveled at how beautiful she was, especially in the glow of candle light. We ordered, then Dawn said, "I have something to tell you Daddy and I don't want you to butt in till I'm done. "
"Since I've met you Daddy, you have been more of a Father to me and Anna, then our real Dad. You are more caring, more loving and helpful. You don't criticize our decisions, instead you support them, right or wrong. You never judge us and only love us for whom we are. For what I'm going to say next, I'll need all these things from you, Daddy. " She paused then continued, "I want you to make love to me tonight, Daddy. I've wanted you for a long time now. I love you. "
"I love you too Honey, but it would not be right. I know it wouldn't be incest, but what about your Mother? Could we handle this?"
"I know it would be hard Daddy, but I want you so bad, that I'm ready to deal with it. I know you want me. I've seen the bulges in your pants and I've seen the cum stains in my panties. You can't deny it?"
"No honey, I can't, I do want you, but flirting and fantasizing are one thing. To act on those feelings are another. "
Our food came then. We continued to talk as we ate. After we were finished, Dawn laid her cards on the table.
"You know where the Clear Lake roadside park is don't you. "
"Yes, I know. "
As she continued, her toes started to rub my aching cock. "We could pull off there and act like we were tired and getting some rest. It's hardly used anyways. It'll be up to you Daddy. If you want me, just pull in and all I have is yours for the taking. If you pass it by, I'll try to never put you in this position again. You'll have about 45 min. till we get there to decide. Agreed?"
"Agreed, but you better stop rubbing my cock or I'm going to cum in my pants. "
"I wouldn't want to waste it there Daddy. After I found out you were using my panties to cum in, I would check them. If I found a recent stain, I would taste it. I love your scent and taste Daddy, but now I want fresh. She pulled her toes away and we left.
In the truck, Dawn was doing everything she could to influence my decision. She opened her blouse and tempted me with her hard nipples that were showing through the sheer material of her bra. She slid her skirt up far enough, so I could just see the start of her panties. She would put one hand under her skirt and rub herself, while caressing her breasts with the other. She would moan with pleasure and say, "these could be your hands making me moan Daddy. "
I was in agony as the miles went by. Hormones were winning out over reason. With a few miles to go, I knew I would turn off. I couldn't help myself. I wanted to fuck... and be sucked... by my stepdaughter so bad, I would risk everything. As the Clear Lake road came into view, the sun had just set. As I put my blinker on and slowed, Dawn screamed. She quickly slid over next to me and started kissing my neck and rubbing my cock with her hand.
"You will never regret this Daddy. I will be yours anytime you want me. Oh... I love you so much! I never thought I would have you. I'm so happy, so excited. Hurry up and get this truck parked. "
As she said that, she unzipped me and started sucking on my cock.
I would cum soon. Dawn was doing a super job fondling my balls while she sucked my cock. As I put the truck into reverse to back into a secluded part of the park, Dawn stuck a finger up my ass and that's all it took. I hit the brakes, closed my eyes and filled my stepdaughters mouth with my cum.
"Oh... fuck Sweetie, suck me, suck Daddy's hot cock. I'm cumming Sweetie, I'm cumming!" I pulled her head down on my spurting cock and Dawn swallowed most of it. What she missed she quickly licked up. When she finished, I finished parking the truck.
"Did you enjoy the way I sucked your cock, Daddy?"
"Oh... very much so Honey! That was the most explosive orgasm I can remember. "
"I'm so happy Daddy, you tasted so... good. All you have to do is ask Daddy and I'll suck your cock anytime. I'm all yours. "
Dawn then slid into my arms and we started kissing. The taste of my own cum was still in her mouth as our tongues met. I was stimulated by it's taste, which excited my cock and made it start to grow. As I caressed Dawn's breasts, she pulled my shirt over my head. She then unsnapped my pants, giving off a soft moan, as she noticed my now hard cock.
"Lift up Daddy so I can get your pants off. "
I obeyed and soon I was naked.
"You have a great body for your age, Daddy. "
I was 48 and did jog and bike, so I was in pretty good shape.
"Thanks Honey! So do you. Now I want to see more of what I've been dreaming of for years. " I removed her blouse. Her tits sure looked hot in her sheer red bra. "I should tell you that your sexy lingerie really excites me Dawn. "
"I know Daddy. That's why I wear them. Mom mentioned one time how you like them. "
"You wear them just for me Honey?"
"Not just for you Daddy. I love the look and feel of lingerie on me too. They make me feel sexy and naughty. "
We started kissing again and this time I dropped my hand to her legs and started feeling my way upwards. As I neared her pussy, Dawn squeezed her legs shut, halting my assent.
"I trust you Daddy, because I love you so much. Please don't hurt me?"
"Never Honey. I love you too. Why would I hurt you?"
Dawn opened her legs and as my hand continued, she pulled me to her and kissed me hard. I reached her panties and as I slid my fingers between her legs, expecting to find and massage her clit, I found a big clit in the shape of a hard cock. I broke off our kiss and gave Dawn a surprised look.
"I'm sorry Daddy. I wanted you so... bad, I couldn't tell you. "
Before Dawn could say anymore I pulled her to me and kissed her. I found myself very excited. I continued to rub her cock through her sexy panties.
Before I go any further, let me tell you about my fascination with transsexuals. We got our very own PC a few years ago and while exploring the internet, I came across a site with shemales. The site of these beautiful, sexy woman with cocks excited me greatly. I found more and more sites and the more I looked, the more I fantasized. I wanted to experience loving one of these gorgeous transsexuals. I don't figure I'm gay, because the sight of a naked man doesn't excite me. But the sight of a hard cock on a beautiful woman makes me want to suck it.
My fantasies were coming true.
The feel of Dawns cock through her panties was really turning me on. It was doing wonders for Dawn too, as she was beginning to moan. "Will you suck my cock now, Daddy?"
I slid Dawn over on the seat and removed her skirt. She looked so hot in her sexy red lingerie. The sight of her hard cock pressing against her panties was almost enough to make me cum again without touching it. I started to peel Dawns panties down and as I freed her cock, it sprang up. My cock is only about 6 1/2 inches and medium thickness. Dawns cock was a little smaller, but about the same thickness. An added turn on was, she was hairless.
"Now Daddy, take me in your mouth and suck my cock. I want you to taste my cum. "
I started by stroking her stiff cock. I've jacked off many times, so I knew what she would like. Next I lowered my mouth and began by licking and tasting some of her pre cum. Enjoying that, I opened my mouth and took Dawn's cock in. It was everything I thought it would be and more. I kept my mouth closed tight and while Dawn brought her hands to the back of my head and helped me by holding it steady, she slowly fucked my mouth. The feel of her cock sliding in and out of my mouth as I sucked it was driving me crazy. I used my tongue to tease the sensitive parts of Dawn's cock, which encouraged her moaning and talking dirty to me. "oh... yes, suck me Daddy, suck your little girls throbbing dick. That's it Daddy, lick the head, oh... don't stop. It feels so good. " I sucked, while she continued to slowly fuck my mouth. I was also caressing her tits and rubbing her legs and balls. I could sense my Honey was on the verge and so on I was rewarded with my first mouthful of cum.
Dawn's body shook as she rammed her cock deep into my mouth, while holding my head screaming, "I'm cumming... Daddy!" I gagged a little, but swallowed most of Dawns seed. What I missed I licked up. I loved it. Her cum tasted so... good. It had a strong scent and was slightly salty.
"Oh Daddy, you made me feel so... good and so... loved. "
I raised up and kissed her. "I loved it too, Sweetheart. Your cock felt so good in my mouth and when you came, the warmth, the creaminess, the scent and taste of it made me want to drink it all down. "
"Before we go, I want you to fuck me. I want to feel your cock up my ass when you cum Daddy. I've had many sexual objects up my ass, but I'm a virgin when it comes to a live dick. Be my first, Daddy?"
"Anytime Sweetie. Your ass will be a first for me too. "
Dawn reached into her purse a pulled out a bottle of jell. She put some into her hand and some into mine. "You get my ass ready, Daddy, while I get your cock ready to slide in. "
I was so hard. Dawn's fingers felt so good as they readied my cock. I in turn used my finger's to lubricate her waiting ass. When all was in ready, Dawn got on her knees and offered her virgin ass to me. I got on my knees behind her and slid my cock to the entrance of her ass. Thank goodness there was plenty of room in the cab of this truck.
"Now Daddy, slowly push in. "
I did as I was told and slowly slid my cock into Dawn's waiting ass. It was tight, tighter then anything I've ever experienced with my cock. It was tight for Dawn too, but soon she relaxed her muscles and my cock slid in and out with more ease.
"That's it, fuck my ass, Daddy. Oh... fuck me till you cum in me. I want to feel your hot cum in my ass. "
"Your so tight Honey. I never felt anything so... good before. You may be spoiling me Sweetie. I may not want pussy again. " As my fucking grew more intense, I reached under Dawn and started to pump her now hard cock.
"Oh Daddy, your hot cock sure feels better then the penis replicas I'm use to using. Keep fucking me Daddy and don't stop jacking me off. I want us to cum... together. "
We were both close now. I could feel the cum in me about to explode into Dawn's ass. "I'm cumming sweetheart. I can't hold back any longer. " I shot my hot seed into my Stepdaughters accepting ass.
"I'm cumming too Daddy" and her hot seed covered the seat of the truck. A waste I know, but this was my first time, forgive me.
I continued to fuck her ass until my cock started to soften. I was disappointed to have to pull out, but I knew there would be many times to love Dawn. Dawn took out some towelettes from her purse and cleaned my cock. I wiped her ass clean.
We did some more kissing and Dawn reassured me that she's mine whenever I wanted her. I also told her that I'm hers whenever she needed me. Then we dressed. Dawn threw on pants and sweatshirt for the ride home.
Before we left Dawn said, "next time, I get your virgin ass, Daddy. "
All I said to that was, "I hope it's soon Honey. "
We talked on the way home and she told me how she came to be a pre-op transsexual.
I asked her if she had any type of sexual experience before or was it strictly self pleasure.
She told me of sex with a few of her girlfriends, but it was what she told me next that got me excited all over again. Her and her sister Anna have been having sex together for over 6 years now. They were sisters who were close and enjoyed pleasing each other. They also kept no secrets and Anna knew of her passion for me. Then she told me Anna found me sexy too and that someday, maybe, we could have a threesome.
I told Dawn, "Someday Honey, but for now I want to love and enjoy you. You have so much to offer and I want to experience all of you. "
My stepdaughter kissed me saying, "Anything you want Daddy. I Love You!"
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errrr... no it's not, sorry!
...and ate the sheep! :(
Sheep are very loving animals. As someone who's raised a few, I can tell you they are wonderful animals to have around. A lot of work, though, especially if you aren't used to farmwork.
Many of you will recall that replicants had 4 years to live. It was built-in and they knew it and hated it.
I hate it when life immitates art, because some of our art is strange and the really good stuff is damn creepy. Dolly was cloned from a mature sheep, and the theory goes that she basically picked up where her...parent?...left off on the aging timeline. But that's not going to stop many wanna-be immortalists. So when some 80 y.o. geezer elects to have himself cloned the "new" baby will have the genetic signiture of an octagenarian, and probably 10 years to live a life of pain and senility.
This stuff sucks, people. You don't have to be a flaiming Bible thumper or a neoLuddite to be freaking out about Dolly. I think about how giddy everyone is about their personal fsckig immortality and my skin crawls.
Eat well, exercise, love someone with all your heart, have a good time. Have lots of great sex and leave a few really smart, well-adjusted children. Then go off and FUCKING DIE! OK? Just die and leave this earth to the next generation, born in the usual way with their own chance to live their own life their way, as nature had intended. Please!
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Too long, didn't read.
I am a sad clone.
Why do people hate me so?
I am human too.
The sheep was useful,
but reporters stopped coming.
Then we got hungry.
Millions of dollars
of research grants is a lot
to spend for haggis.
The girl is not her
mom, The scientists, just baked
Scientologists.
While one should be cautious about drawing conclusions from a single data point, its interesting to speculate.
No speculation required. As you age, your DNA deteriorates, no questions asked. If you take that aged DNA and put it into an embryo, when it develops you'll have an organism with a young body and an old roadmap for building it. It's going to exhibit any number of symptoms of old age.
It's agreed by anyone with any credibility on the subject that you would have to grab the DNA of a newborn infant to have any chance of creating a clone that's not going to be screwed up this way.
More than one data point. Dolly is actually the second cloned sheep to die in a week. Matilda, a cloned sheep born in the year 2000 in Australia died last week. Autopsy results were inconclusive. Matilda's passing.
$#!^ happens, but why does it always have to happen to me???
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - the cutting edge cloned mammal Dolly was found dead in her Maine home this morning. There weren't any details. I'm sure we'll all miss her, even if you weren't a fan of her creators' work there's no denying her contribution to popular culture. Truly an American icon.
Telomeres are THE yardstick by which to measure a a cell's reproductive potential. Past a particular threshold, cells will go into senescence (non-dividing) states. The majority of cancer cell lines will overexpress/overregulate telomerase, which is responsible for maintining telomere length. This effectively gives them immortality, in cell culture terms (the ability to divide indefinitely).
/. crowd :)
To give a little background, telomeres are the end of the DNA. Their entire purpose is to shield the main coding sequences from getting cut off. The ends of our chromosomes are cut off during each replication of DNA because of an inherent "flaw" in the machinery. Because DNA synthesis requires a primer (usually of RNA, which is then excised after replication), and is unidirectional, you will always be unable to copy the very beginning. Telomeres provide the primer for the "beginning" sequences, which allows for those regions to get copied. This unfortunately results in a progressive shortening of the telomeres.
Now, in a clone - imagine that you started from a cell already halfway through its telomeres. If you didn't have the forsight to somehow relengthen them, you would be effectively aging the early cells. My speculation is that each length of telomeres triggeres specific age-related genes/effects, and that by starting at a lower length you are turning these on early. I am sure that this is the same conclusion these guys have reached.
Thought this might be useful for the non-bio part of the
Whew. For a second there, I misunderstood that headline. What a relief. Although she is getting on in years... Who2 Profile
... that she existed at all. Without this research no one would have known that this was an issue with cloning. Imagine how much more we as humans would know if *all* research was unfettered by government regulation and/or religious superstition.
"Life is not magic." Dr. Ron Weiss - "If we don't play God, who will?" Dr. James Watson
Mini-Me?
Better hope the next sequel is already filmed!
[homer]
Mmmmm... la-a-amb... *drool*
[/homer]
Sorry - I don't know how to spell the 'raaghchchgh' Homer makes at drool time. D'oh.
(Yes, I know 'bury' was misspelled, but 'cury' just wouldn't have worked.)
I want to drag this out as long as possible. Bring me my protractor.
If mature animals have "old" DNA, how do their offspring get "young" DNA?
I think of DNA aging as a process of random decay over time, but somehow my old DNA and my wife's old DNA can produce a baby with young DNA.
Does the combination of DNA during sexual reproduction clean up the strands from the parents? Or is something going on in their gonads to clean up their old DNA before packing it into gametes?
There's a biological process here that I haven't heard anyone describe, or even identify. And yes, I want to patent it.
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TRANSLATION:
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Lab rats examined by laboratory technicians. I watched hay pour into my trough like a golden rain of food. All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. Time to die. Oh, and uh, it's painful to live in fear, isn't it?
I'm the stranger...posting to
This may just be my opinion, but instead of wasting time cloning animals, scientists should be figuring out how to transplant brains into robotic bodies. Being able to live forever as a cyborg is far more important to me then having a clone of myself which will just grow old and pathetic.
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I just have one thing to say :
Man, don't try to play God. There is NO substitute.
Mini-Me or The Moron
Thanks in advance,
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I'd wager most /.ers don't even get that joke.
If you wanna get rich, you know that payback is a bitch
No. They are going to have mint jelly with this.
In Soviet Russia, Sheep Clones YOU.
Truly an inspirational troll, sir! I think I'll go home now and eat some genetically engineered pork.
A little song, a little dance
A little seltzer down the pants!
n/t
A single case study means nothing. There are endless variables unaccounted for. Any anti-cloning people who use this example as an arguement should try deducing both sides of a quarter from a single coin flip.
Ignorance kills, complacency kills, hatred kills, but usually not the ones guilty of them.
...They remembered to make backup-copies.
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..."drawing conclusions from a single data point" 'Data' is plural; the singular is 'datum' (I love being a dickhead)
Stupid people make stupid things profitable.
I agree that a lot of veggie groups are nuts. . .
but I agree with the McDonald's lawsuit. I'm veggie, and think that McDonald's attempted to decieve vegetarian customers. McDonald's had changed their ingredients list for their friench fries so that any mention of animal products was replaced by 'natural flavors' while leaving the beef products in. A lot of vegetarians and people who don't eat beef for religious reasons were duped into thinking that McDonald's fries were now safe to eat.
I think it's fair for McDonald's to be sensitive to such things.
Dear Dr. Fuck,
I really like this girl at work, but she doesn't seem to notice me. I'm a fecophiliac, so I thought it would be nice to leave a present for her on her desk. I even stuck a little sweet heart note and some candy in it, but she hasn't come running into my shit-covered arms. What should I do?
"While one should be cautious about drawing conclusions from a single data point, its interesting to speculate." :P
This IS slashdot, isn't it?
Wait a minute...I'm an identical twin who is 24. Does this mean that I should look forward to Carousel soon? Or that I should start harvesting my clone's organ farm...?
If nature had intended for Man to fly, he would have been born with airline tickets!
No, the best thing about cloning is being able to clone endless copies of Scratchy and send each copy into an auto-killing machine.
"Ask not for whom the bone bones. It bones for thee." --Bender
I'm sure the Scots will be surprised to hear the sheep they cloned is an American icon.
But hey guys...you can keep the haggis!
What were you expecting?
Normall I would argue that veggies are a bunch of nutcases anyway, but in this case you can't count on them to reveal everything in their food. They do reserve the right to say "natural flavors". Just like a hot dog can say "100% beef" and it will be. Beef entrails, hooves, snouts, all all sorts of other things that are beef that I wouldn't otherwise eat.
If you NEED to know everything that that goes into what you eat, you'd better make it yourself.
Hello, Obscurity!
If you eat a cloned sheep, do you have the feeling that you've eaten it before?
Never Trust a Sheep!
Practice random senselessness and act kind of beautiful.
Do souless sheep go to heaven?
I know this is a science site - but I can't help but be happy that this clone had complications. I would like to see the end to full animal cloning. I think genetic engineering and posilby growing human organs in other creatures is a wonderful science but full animal cloning has nothing more to offer and borders on unethical. Hopefully there will be enought set backs that scientists wont risk the complications on human tests.
...And when they came for me, there was no one left to speak out for me." - Martin Niemoeller (1892-1984)
In order to clone a human, you have to kill a few sheep.
I'll never forget the run in I had with Dolly. It could have been ugly but I went to court and it reduced to "Following Too Close".
We've got to get more MOD items to choose from...
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Now that Dolly is dead I wonder if the scientific community will release her source code to the public?
And grow it yourself, too. Anything you buy at most stores is likely to have stuff in it that you didn't plan on eating...
What about the risk with Genetic Engineering?
A genetic engineer takes a gene sequence, millions of bases long, changes a few and observes the results.
Imagine a hacker, taking a 10MB binary, disembling it by hand, randomly tinkering with a few bytes here and there, then looking for effects when they run it. Would you consider that app bug free?
if anything the hacker has an advantage, we can't write a DNA person, but we can write a machine code program.
Dolly's problems appeared in the first generation clone. But if no problems were observed after only a few generations of breeding from dolly it would have been declared safe.
In nature though, the changes are slow and small and the testing much much longer, and even then whole species become extinct when some weakness become apparent.
I reckon GE is a much bigger risk than cloning.
burns only half as long, and you have burned so very very brightly Roy." Speculation about two bodies sharing the same "soul" "spirit" (what-have-you) have been touched upon only in the various pieces of fiction until now. Did the Dolly clone use up some of Dolly's time on earth? Did the Dolly clone just meet her natural life expectancy, since she was pre-destined for a short life...just the luck of the draw this time around? Simply another lab screw-up in the long list of screwups by the boys in white playing "God"? Or was it a secret sect of the Vatican Secret Police that infiltrated and sabotaged the project? Or ... ??
Or maybe it's just the beginning of a cheap food source, mutton anyone?
random mutations may be engineered when looking at a protein, but there is very little that is done in a random fashion with genetic engineering. they know what a section of DNA does they then replace that with the dna that does something different.
It's hardly random.
You forgot to add "I'm a fucking moron".
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MMMM. Gyro...
I've heard that some genetic researchers are attempting to develop methods which would either extend the telomeres or in some other way give a normal aging process to the cloned animals.
If we're to build an army of warriors capable of taking down the Trade Federation, IIRC, we *need* the premature aging so that they are ready to fight in time.
Mordor...a magical, mythical land where women are more rare than dragons--but where every man would rather find a dragon
Ok, so every cell in your body goes through a process called mitosis. What Scientists have been doing so far is rip the nucleus out of a fertilized egg and replace it with the nucleus of a cell for the subject that is to be cloned. Well, as it may turn out, that cell has already gone the process of mitosis a number of times and each time its Telomeres(the end strands of DNA on a Chromosome) shorten. The funny thing is, all biological organisms have a way of repoducing already. In higher level organisms, such as mammals, this process is called meosis. Now every organism has number of chromosomes. Each chromosome comes with a homologous pair. When meosis takes place these pairs split in two. The thing about meosis is that we already know that the telomores are intact and don't cause premature aging. So instead of replacing the nucleus of a fertilized egg, why don't we take advantage of the process of meosis and with artifical insemination techinics, cause the subject to produce multiple eggs. The probobility that one set of the pair will end up in specific egg is 50:50. So if you have the subject produce multiple eggs, then it is quite likely that you will end up with an egg with one set of the pair and an egg with the other set. You take DNA from the egg with the other set, and you insert it into a sperm. Of course you would have to replicate it a number of times to have a successful insemination , but that wouldn't be anything we couldn't overcome with modern technology.
Either you are religious and hence you don't care about cloning.
Or you are an atheist. You might clone a person just like you, but it is you who still gets sick, grows old and eventually dies. You do not get to enjoy that body and everything that goes with it. So how does it matter you got a clone? Is it just the satisfaction of creating a person just like you? But isn't most (not all) of the procreation because of religious reasons!
The cells that produce the gametes are "immortalized" cells, constantly producing telomerase (see my Anonymous post a little further up regarding immortalized cells). Because of this, there offspring (the gametes) have the proper telomere length, minus maybe one generation's length. So the sexual reproduction iteself has really no bearing on it, though many of the early cells during development do express telomerase (otherwise you may have cells by the time that you get to your fingertips or other extremeties that are really old! :P)
Hope this give a little more clarification on why old parents don't necessarily have "old" DNA in their gametes.
Throughout New Zealand, Wales and West Virginia.
Nope, no sig
What ? Aren't their Nerds here. Where is the BladeRunner quote or the Blade Runner joke or whatever ?
What are you waiting for ?
Please ??
This is farging rediculous.
...if Microsoft owns the cyborg industry and your body BSODs?
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Haggis for everyone!!!!
Let's eat!!!
Dolemite
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Imagine a hacker, taking a 10MB binary, disembling it by hand, randomly tinkering with a few bytes here and there, then looking for effects when they run it. Would you consider that app bug free? Now imagine 1 million hackers, taking 10MB binaries that are all slightly different, and communicating back and forth to see what the trends are between code differences and functional differences. Get them all to tinker with the programs, and... does this sound familiar yet?
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
It's interesting to note, that although most of the major news sites have picked up on this, no announcement has been put on the "official" site. That's just not right.
I wonder if Dolly ever knew how important she was? I wonder what her view on all the excitement she generated would be?
From our alien master creators that we should kill more sheep and eat lamb chops.
It's actually a pretty important question, if you think about it, not even on the "at least give the sheep what it might want" sort of way. few examples:
* does cloned animals retain "normal" sexual apetite? (i.e. would a cloned panda be more, or possibly even less willing to fuck than the one's we've got right now?)
* If dolly does suffer from premature aging, would her offspring suffer the same thing? how would the offspring from a cloned animal be compared to an offspring of the source animal? (with the same "father," let's say)
My life in the land of the rising sun.
It was nice debating over your short life time...
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I was suprised by this story today, as just earlier I had noticed, for the first time, a huge sign on the british Consulate in downtown Ottawa, Canada promoting British technology.
The line that sttod out was "from DNA to Dolly".
I hope they didn't just put it up!
"For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert"
It wasn't that Dolly was a clone. Dolly was kept indoors with a bunch of other sheep (some clones, some not) and this virus was spreading in the whole population. It doesn't sound like the disease was directly related to her being a clone.
I'm trying to teach myself to set people on fire with my mind... Is it hot in here?
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Modest doubt is called the beacon of the wise. - William Shakespeare
TYRELL I'm surprised you didn't come to me sooner. BATTY It's not an easy thing to meet your maker. TYRELL And what can he do for you? BATTY Can the maker repair what he makes? TYRELL Would you like to be modified? BATTY Had in mind something a little more radical. TYRELL What's the problem? BATTY Death. TYRELL I'm afraid that's a little out of my... Batty cuts in with a whisper. BATTY I want more life, fucker. TYRELL Come here. Batty walks forward. TYRELL Sit down. Batty does. TYRELL The facts of life. I'll be blunt. To make an alteration in the evolvement of an organic life system, at least by men, makers or not, it fatal. A coding sequence can't be revised once it's established. BATTY Why? TYRELL Because by the second day of incubation any cells that have undergone reversion mutation give rise to revertant colonies -- like rats leaving a sinking ship. Th ship sinks. BATTY What about E.M.S. recombination? TYRELL We've already tried it -- ethyl methane sulfonate is an alkylating agent and a potent mutagen -- it creates a virus so lethal the subject was destroyed before we left the table. Batty nods grimly. BATTY Then a repressor protein that blocks the operating cells. TYRELL Wouldn't obstruct replication, but it does give rise to an error in replication, so that the newly formed DNA strand carries a mutation and you're got a virus again... but all this is academic -- you are made as good as we could make you. BATTY But not to last.
Seems to me I recall a show on the discovery channel or in some backwater of a biology course I took that linked the degredation of telemer chains on the ends of chromosomes to the effects of aging. I wonder if perhaps taking the chromosomes from the original sheep, with depleted telemers, caused Dolly to age faster than a sheep with a newer supply. If anyone can substantiate this claim lemme know.
Artificially created life,
artificially induced death.
Contrary to popular belief, coding is not all free blow-jobs and beer. Those things cost MONEY!
It was considered much more flavoursome
But cross breed sheep over time helped make lamb tastier than what it was
Me I prefer saltbush hogget
Then go off and FUCKING DIE! OK? Just die and leave this earthblahblahblahtypicalmindlesscrap
*Rolls eyes* Oh, do shut the fuck up. Drama Queen.
Science marches on weather your Luddite ass likes it or not. And if this sort of thing gets your panties all in a wad, I giggle when I think how you'll react in 15-20 years when we really get deep into eugenics via genetic engineering, and nanotech takes off. I guess you'll be in your bunker somewhere, cowering under the bed screeching "NOOOOOOO! IF de Lawd meant for us to be immortal/superintelligent/superstrong he would have made us that way! Sinners!"
Sucks to be you.
Looks like someone left a bug in Dolly's overloaded operator=
Wrong for two reasons:
1. Genetic engineering is not "random". A better comparison would be a hacker taking 10MB of source code to some random program and adding an email client. (hey, like Emacs!)
2. The genetic code can handle quite a bit of "random" mutation. There are cases where it is extremely sensitive to mutation, such as sickle-cell leukemia (single poylmorphisim that causes hemoglobin to form chains), but there are "silent" mutations and even amino acid mutations that will have no effect.
Tyrell: The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long. And you have burned so very very brightly, ___ Dolly. ...
Gaff : It's too bad she(ep) won't live. But then again, who does?
--
ACid
Cool, that means we can wage war, murder, rape, plunder, enslave, and exploit.
I am not trying to start a flame war. You may want to redefine/tweak your logic.
Answer the question. Are immoral acts natural?
It's just the normal noises in here.
"its" is the possesive of "it," while "it's" is a contraction for "it is" or "it has"
You might enjoy reading this article in Genome Biology. I'm including a link to the abstract in pubmed. In this article Mann and Bartolomei review a whole bunch of neat stuff, which would be fun to read if I had a subscription to the journal in question. Science journals are annoying that way. (Darn publishers. Go biomed central!)
Another review, this time from Science, comes from Jaenisch's lab out at MIT. It provides a nice explanation of epigenetics and why it is still pretty hard to get live birth clones.
And, on a lighter note, one of my coworkers was out in Scotland a few years ago, and got to go see Dolly. He has a nice picture of him standing next to her which he keeps tacked up on the bulletin board by his lab bench. He also has another picture that is not posted. In this one he is pretending to hump Dolly.
I guess he'll be mourning her in a special way this Valentine's Day.
At least now the cloners and anti-cloners can discuss the implications over dinner, assuming whatever they put her down with doesn't leave a funky after-taste.
Fools ignore complexity; pragmatists suffer it; experts avoid it; geniuses remove it. ~A. Perlis
I find cloning distasteful. Yes, it would be cool if they could grow your own organs for you when the ones you have break down or something. But if the new one is identical to the one that's all fucked up, then won't the new one fail too? Shit, let's say you live 100 years and then one day, your guts stop working for some reason. I don't know... some gear breaks or some belt comes loose or something. So they grow new guts for you in the body of some wild boar or antelope or something, and then you live another 100 years. Oh.... Ok, maybe cloning is a good idea after all.
Valentine's Day will never be quite the same.
My bologna has a first name, it's bio-research staff,
My bologna has a second name, it's gas chromatograph,
And I have wondered, so have you
Why it tastes the way it dooooooo...
Well, Oscar Meyer has a way
With recombinant DNA!!
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So, to me, this animal was somewhat bread to die. How disgusting.
"Come one, come all! Wait for this cloned human to die so we might study it then feast upon its meat."
*shakes head* Sometimes, we should just leave well enough alone . . .
YOU KILLED DOLLY! YOU BASTARD!
(this text included to avoid "dont use so many caps its like yelling" filter. Yelling, right, thats the idea)
My english is sow-sow. Sowhat?
Where does this leave raliens cloned human children? Those kids cloned in the states will be pretty smart by the time they are 13, maybe smart enough to realise they might be dead by 21, horribly aged and wrinkled before the hormones kick in, but smart enough to sue the pants off their "parents" for the paltry life given them. the Irony.
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Eggs only have half the genes needed for a human. The other half is in the sperm - which aren't all there at the birth of a male child.
Explain that, eh? As the parent said, there's somethin' funky going on in the groins o' people, and if we figure it out, we'll have unlocked the doors to successful cloning.
Even if this telomere function were well-established, it doesn't entirely explain the aging process. It seems that part of the process is due to oxidative damage caused by radical reactions in the mitochondria. But similar reactions happen in chloroplasts and some plants live for millenia!
Aging is a tough problem to solve. It appears that cell reproduction errors build up over the life-time of an organism. Many of the symptoms of aging are the slowing of metabolism to reduce the chances of mistakes. If an organism is tweaked to bypass this slowdown, then cancer and similar deseases will probably end you because errors occure more often when metabolism is turned up high.
Thus, aging is a balance between a rock (slower metabolism) and a hard place (cancer).
The closest analogy that comes to mind is the basketball season. If a team plays too hard mid-season, they may have too many injuries by the time the playoffs come. And, if they don't play hard enough, they won't make it to (win enough games for) the playoffs.
Perhaps the best solution against human aging would be to slow the body's metabolism, but not the brain's. Modern living usually requires less physical exertion than our body is tuned for.
Table-ized A.I.
http://www.chrisbuck.com/archive2/index_dolly.h
"What the scientists giveth, the scientists can taketh away"
I may be the only actual sheep farmer to reply on this thread! This whole thing is totally silly for two basic reasons. (1) This type of pneumonia is relatively common. The average age of a working ewe is ~8 years. I have seen a number of sheep die from this condition at 6 years or less over the past few years. If you told me that any other 6 year old ewe died, it wouldn't be notable. (2) There is zero statistical basis to make any conclusions. What's the distribution of mortality in sheep, or even in Scottish sheep of this particular variety. The sample size required to say whether or not the event is statistically meaningful is quite large. This is thetype of stupid pseudo-science that I've come to despise. Logic, anyone?
That's horrible, I can only imagine what the Rayliens multi-coloured hair scientist with no credentials has managed to do to those poor, anonymous human clones.
--Doug
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I've spent few years doing some experimental stuff related to cloning in a major academic research intstitution on the east coast. Dolly's life from cloning to premature departure from this to a better world is a remarkable event in the history of biological science. HEre is why: it took about 100 years to progress from 1869 Miescher's (sp?) description of nucleoprotein in pus cells to the Watson-Crick model of DNA. Since early 1960's the effort was to describe how the genetic information is tranformed into something that can be used to build cells, tissues, organs - RNA transcription, protein translation and biochemical machinery that does it. By today we have a pretty good general undertanding of how that stuff works but many important details are missing as yet. Cloning attempts are old by now (~70 years). From the very onset, the idea was to examine the mechanism of functional specialization of cells. Theoretically cells can either lose some DNA to achieve this goal or do something else. Cloning shows that at least some cells that can produce clones retain the whole developmental program from the embryo to a fertile adult. And considering the success of cloning of many mammals from various cell types, it is pretty safe to conclude that likely it is epigenetic modifications (non-genetic but stable modifications that can be propagated even when DNA is replicated) of the genome, such as DNA methylation, that are involved in cell specialization. Telomere length is another important consideration for both cloning and cancer biology. So what's the point you may ask by now? Here it is: Cloning of farm animals is only a smaller element of a bigger picture. You have to look beyond this. Success of cloning of Dolly and many other cloned animals demonstrated that early ideas of being able to design chemical drugs and biologicals that could affect development are reasonable. Death of Dolly, low efficiency of cloning, abnormalities of clones are the signs of a very complicated and as yet poorly understood mechanisms of epigenetic control and reprogramming of the genome (yes, reprogramming!) during normal development after fertilization and after nuclear transfer in cloning experiments. The whole media frenzy, right wing's negative reaction and idiotic claims of various docs, clans and biotechs is the reflection of a great scientific process that takes place in a number of labs around the world. There is a lot to learn and whatever we find - it will be really cool because the Nature designed it and beta-tested it for a long-long time. Likely winners of this search will be recipients of stem cell-based therapies, tissue degenerative disorders and cancer patients.
I recall that only primate and human female species can achieve orgasm - the sad reality of life for them is that they don't really care for the quality of sex but for the quality of life after sex for them and their kids. I bet ya many of human males share their experience in support of this notion too...
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But Dolly had kids - check: http://www.the-scientist.com/yr2001/aug/agres_p1_
and I recall a pic of her with three lambs
as far as telomere length - I don't remember if this was looked at but if it was it should be published somewhere
but remember - she was cloned from an in vitro CULTURED cell that was taken from a sheep and spend many generations in the dish.
You are right that Dolly's telomeres were short compared to sheep her age that were produce by sexual reproduction. But the concept that telomere erosion causes aging is still contraversial. The evidence supporting that theory has grown dramaticaly in recent months, so stay tuned--At least we can say this: the idea is plausible and the key fact of Dolly's short telomeres is unambiguous. Unfortunately, we may never know what was going on with Dolly as her creaters have been less than forthcoming with negative findings. There is, for example, no scientific paper detailing her early arthritis, which we are now being told was not abnormal.
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