which is really connected with the people today building their own computer. OSS has given me the choice to not only build hardware, but also to build software. Eventhough I haven't had the same problems as you the last couple of years (before that it was really a hell) it requires some knowledge of what you are doing. I really don't think OSS projects make it the users fault, why else would they have mailling-lists, bug-databases or other forums for you to communicate. If you make the analogy to the car (or like me hardware), I think you get hasled by others if you bug them everytime with small issues that actually could be your fault. Same counts for OSS projects (eventhough forums for Gentoo answers pretty stupid questions sometimes, but it helps people get going, because not all projects are like D3b1an 3133t)
I couldn't agree more... here in Denmark and probably the rest of Europe telemarketers are just a p4in in the 44s. When I was a kiddo with a small sales-company, they called me all the time trying to get me into their stupid phonebooks, nobody ever get/buy/see because they never get produced. So I talked to the local goverment, they called the police, and shut that establishment down after some months consumer-lobbism on television (the police brought the story, and soon the stuff got started, I was not the only "victim"). Two month later they started somewhere else, and called again... Once I tried to find out how they think, so I told them I needed to get a pen, but listened at the phone for some time. They were actually making fun of me, and saying like "we will get him this time". Sad people, there must be a better job than this.
I agree. The whole idea of a desktop with your "papers" on it, originates from Apple (and then Xerox). I would more use the metaphor of a wall. On a wall you can organise your findings much faster (try it at your home) and getting a great overview. Apple saw this, and made (or making it) the app Exposé, which makes a quick overview of your current doings. The zoom tool together with clusterings (music cluster, work cluster) on the screens would be more nicer and organised, but not as rigid as MS Bob. Could be real great if somebody developed a software like that on Linux, but don't look at me, I am too stupid to hack.
yeah, I remember once I had windows 3.1, and this new fancy windows 95 came along... I found a magazine at the library that included a CD with a small app that would give you the same look and feel as the win95 taskbar in windows 3.1. Eventhough it was slow and buggy, the change to windows 95 wasn't better (on a 33MHz machine).
It runs at most banks here in Denmark, but I have heard they are switching to *sigh* Windows. The funny part is that they have never had that many downtime as now, and the personal has a lot of trouble using it. Maybe they will switch again... (this was not an Apple commercial)
sorry, I don't speak English natively... I mean backstapping, as Julius Caesar and Brutus backstapping "Also you, Brutus!"... The Safari browser from Apple is rendered with KHTML, the guys from KDE developed for Konqueror some time ago. Since Konqueror now can run natively with QT on Apple, Safari could be overhauled by Konqueror, if Safari doesn't update as often as Konqueror (and Apple stops Safari). It is unlikely it will happen, but you would never know. But maybe I didn't choose the word wisely.
you propably saw konqueror running on cygwin. It is possible, but not as easy as download one package, double-click and it is installed. With the new QT for Apple, The Safari Team (actually old Mozilla developers, wonder why) could get backstapped by its originator KHTML, also running on Konqueror.
bu then again, without any production the tests won't be comprehensive enough. Important stuff on a stable (file)server, and then use a unstable (when you are in the mood, multiple kernels is possible at boot) client machine with all your production happing (also servers). Linux has its power in the major testing happening for servers and desktops by the many users using it for daily work/play.
What really pissed me off in the interview is the points Gates made to Research and Development of Linux. Microsoft pay $6b for R&D every year, but Linux has none. Firstly this is not only the untruth, it is a stupid political trick I have seen so many time (typically in Denmark, socialists cry when the money is taken away for their core-values at a liberal goverment, without the mention of the activities that actually were cheaper and more effective). Untruth because even Linus Torvalds works at a R&D-lab for open source today (OSDL). Linux is of course not about R&D Management, it is the evolutive reason Linus uses in his arguments, and I bet the IBM, Sun and others together pays even more for R&D every year (and that is more programmers-hours, less marketing/suit-hours).
1. mplayer runs very nicely on Gentoo. I still have problem getting sound in some quicktime movies though. Video-editing? Cinerella does the trick. Or buy a Mac to get iMovie and buy Final Cut for professionalism.
2. using WineX(CVS, no payment) for the windoze games (Half-Life/Counterstrike/remember to sign the petition to get HL2 native), but the best games runs nicely on Linux anyway (Uplink, Quake).
3. I don't like consistency, it destroys creativity. While some consistency is always needed, it is already happening, since most is based on basic UI rules (windows, background/desktop, top/bottom-bar, mouse-click).
I think Redhat is taking a step in the wrong direction (maybe mostly because I don't use GTK-apps anyway, only XMMS and the GIMP). Most console apps have also the same setup (like --help).
this also happens in Denmark... my teenage little sister writes a lot of weird messages. I thought that the english "shortcuts" in language was common, but then I saw it is becoming common here too. Must be very hard to press those tiny buttons all the time (like 5000 times a day or so). The weird thing about Danish language regulation is that all movements are allowed since we want a dynamic language. In ten years it is propably the common way to write our language in our schools too.
(25) However, such devices, for instance so-called "cookies", can be a legitimate and useful tool, for example, in analysing the effectiveness of website design and advertising, and in verifying the identity of users engaged in on-line transactions. Where such devices, for instance cookies, are intended for a legitimate purpose, such as to facilitate the provision of information society services, their use should be allowed on condition that users are provided with clear and precise information in accordance with Directive 95/46/EC about the purposes of cookies or similar devices so as to ensure that users are made aware of information being placed on the terminal equipment they are using. Users should have the opportunity to refuse to have a cookie or similar device stored on their terminal equipment. This is particularly important where users other than the original user have access to the terminal equipment and thereby to any data containing privacy-sensitive information stored on such equipment. Information and the right to refuse may be offered once for the use of various devices to be installed on the user's terminal equipment during the same connection and also covering any further use that may be made of those devices during subsequent connections. The methods for giving information, offering a right to refuse or requesting consent should be made as user-friendly as possible. Access to specific website content may still be made conditional on the well-informed acceptance of a cookie or similar device, if it is used for a legitimate purpose.
This is one point of 49 other interesting ideas for the rights and protection of privacy in the electronic comm. sector. On the Danish EU-information site it is mentioned as still in progress in Denmark. Many IT-companies have had hearings for this directive, but cookies has not been discussed yet (so to my knowledge).
what is needed to construct a practical application is to create a self-learning application. I think the challenge would actually be the storage of all the collected data a robot would get. If the current self-learning apps would have enourmous sensor-data the robots would seem more "natural".
Doesn't mean that those guys can't get into another unix(family)-company (with all the money earned by the increase of stock-value) and start the whole thing again. But maybe you are right, when they are fat and rich (/richer) they probably get something better to do.
I just ended my master in interaction design among other design tasks. The idea of interaction design is to create tangible (mostly) interfaces that can connect to human logic and emotion (human computer interaction). Of course the tools looks like toy and act like a toy, simply because they are easy to use. What is the real challenge is to connect the evergrowing functionality with easy handling, and it seemes that the MIT guys, Professor Bill Verplank (the travelling lector *grin*) in northern Italy and Berkley (also music interaction mostly) and the study I went to here in Denmark (IT Product Design, Sønderborg) are the only educations and research facilities for easy handling in the world. My education was also quite focused on working with the industry (and especially the users). The industry also see the products as toys that is produced for showing off, but when a situation arouse they would suddenly see why we designed the products in those ways, and then get the full acknowledgement of our work. It has nothing to do with spectacular design, but with experiencing new ideas first hand, and even to create them as realistic as possible (isn't that was studying is about?).
l33t forcing SVG is not more different than l33t was forcing Flash some years ago. "To view this homepage please download Flash ver. xx". Flash is not included in windoze (but it is included in Mac OS X (IE and Safari), propably because mac-users watch/create flash-homepages all the time). Untestet? I trust open formats formed by W3C more than half-open formats from Macromedia.
And then Greenland, Vinland and Iceland was forgotten, only the Icelandic survived. Iceland is supposed to be closest to norse (old-nordisk) even today, so I heard in a history lesson once. I can only speak of Danish lingo, since it interested me for a while, and clearly our language had a great impact from France and Germany, and today, as many other countries (except France who fights it), are getting more English words into their language. 'Yes' is common used by sales-people, 'Fuck' is used by the youth and all computerised products are using English words. I remember that only IBM tried to use the Danish words invented by some geeks with too much time (don't know if they still do, haven't seen an IBM computer for a decade).
RedHat is probably focusing even more on company solutions, instead of being an all-round distribution. For the hardcore RedHat user (and certified at least) it means no change, maybe even improvements. You could see a problem for those users that has believed for some years now that Linux is RedHat, and can't order a package from the homepage or their local store. But for new users, they are seeing commercials from Lindows (WalMart), Mandrake and SuSE (especially here in Europe). For the l33t users there will be no influence at all, since they use Gentoo/LFS/Debian. </2cent>
I think it is very sad to go to slashdot for a few minutes to make fun of a guy. At least the Starwars guy inspires me with his great designs (not as a Starwars fan (which I am not!), but as a professional designer), while you just told that you are a karmawhore.
overcrowding is quite a negative word, as it is mostly used in combination of poor countries. But
this list of countries by population density shows quite some rich countries in the top. Japan is not as crowded as Belgium (close), The Netherlands, Malta and The Vatican City. I think infrastructure and investments in this makes the big benefit (South Korea, Hong Kong and Scandinavia among others do this, and have quite low prices on broadband/mobiles).
I have been using Adobe InDesign for some time now, as it was required to make reports at our study. But what a irritating application, finding what you need are hidden in additional submenus, which you will find after using it for a month (when the report is about to be finished). When I had to make my portfolio at home, and only running Linux (+windoze for gaming) I would Scribus a try, since I wanted to create PDFs. Scribus 0.8 was great, nice usability, where you find things quite easy (eventhough I had to unlearn some of the bad interface from InDesign). The only problem was when I saved my nice document, I couldn't open it again... I think it was because I put a page in front of the first page. I looked through the file (it is XML), but couldn't indicate the error. Then I installed Scribus 1.0 beta, and created a new file, inserted the other file, bit by bit and found the error (and learned how they thought the structure would be). I really like that you can correct the error yourself in the XML, but it would have been nicer to not have had it at all (in a dream-world). Another story (don't worry, the last one:) is that I was devastating trying to find a solution to use my TIFF files I made on the Macs at school in GIMP, until I found out that you could just insert them directly in Scribus (GIMP didn't like TIFF because of CMYK, I think the next version will?). Graphics/DTP-designers from the Quark/InDesign/ would think that this is an easy application to get the task done, but the glamour of using the Adobe package is off course not there (like I cared, but many others do).
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which is really connected with the people today building their own computer. OSS has given me the choice to not only build hardware, but also to build software. Eventhough I haven't had the same problems as you the last couple of years (before that it was really a hell) it requires some knowledge of what you are doing. I really don't think OSS projects make it the users fault, why else would they have mailling-lists, bug-databases or other forums for you to communicate. If you make the analogy to the car (or like me hardware), I think you get hasled by others if you bug them everytime with small issues that actually could be your fault. Same counts for OSS projects (eventhough forums for Gentoo answers pretty stupid questions sometimes, but it helps people get going, because not all projects are like D3b1an 3133t)
I couldn't agree more ... here in Denmark and probably the rest of Europe telemarketers are just a p4in in the 44s. When I was a kiddo with a small sales-company, they called me all the time trying to get me into their stupid phonebooks, nobody ever get/buy/see because they never get produced. So I talked to the local goverment, they called the police, and shut that establishment down after some months consumer-lobbism on television (the police brought the story, and soon the stuff got started, I was not the only "victim"). Two month later they started somewhere else, and called again ... Once I tried to find out how they think, so I told them I needed to get a pen, but listened at the phone for some time. They were actually making fun of me, and saying like "we will get him this time". Sad people, there must be a better job than this.
I agree. The whole idea of a desktop with your "papers" on it, originates from Apple (and then Xerox). I would more use the metaphor of a wall. On a wall you can organise your findings much faster (try it at your home) and getting a great overview. Apple saw this, and made (or making it) the app Exposé, which makes a quick overview of your current doings. The zoom tool together with clusterings (music cluster, work cluster) on the screens would be more nicer and organised, but not as rigid as MS Bob. Could be real great if somebody developed a software like that on Linux, but don't look at me, I am too stupid to hack.
yeah, I remember once I had windows 3.1, and this new fancy windows 95 came along ... I found a magazine at the library that included a CD with a small app that would give you the same look and feel as the win95 taskbar in windows 3.1. Eventhough it was slow and buggy, the change to windows 95 wasn't better (on a 33MHz machine).
It runs at most banks here in Denmark, but I have heard they are switching to *sigh* Windows. The funny part is that they have never had that many downtime as now, and the personal has a lot of trouble using it. Maybe they will switch again ... (this was not an Apple commercial)
sorry, I don't speak English natively ... I mean backstapping, as Julius Caesar and Brutus backstapping "Also you, Brutus!"... The Safari browser from Apple is rendered with KHTML, the guys from KDE developed for Konqueror some time ago. Since Konqueror now can run natively with QT on Apple, Safari could be overhauled by Konqueror, if Safari doesn't update as often as Konqueror (and Apple stops Safari). It is unlikely it will happen, but you would never know. But maybe I didn't choose the word wisely.
you propably saw konqueror running on cygwin. It is possible, but not as easy as download one package, double-click and it is installed. With the new QT for Apple, The Safari Team (actually old Mozilla developers, wonder why) could get backstapped by its originator KHTML, also running on Konqueror.
bu then again, without any production the tests won't be comprehensive enough. Important stuff on a stable (file)server, and then use a unstable (when you are in the mood, multiple kernels is possible at boot) client machine with all your production happing (also servers). Linux has its power in the major testing happening for servers and desktops by the many users using it for daily work/play.
sorry if I wrote in a misunderstandable way ... I wrote this as a quote from Bil Gates. I am so with you on the comment.
I think this would answer your question.
What really pissed me off in the interview is the points Gates made to Research and Development of Linux. Microsoft pay $6b for R&D every year, but Linux has none. Firstly this is not only the untruth, it is a stupid political trick I have seen so many time (typically in Denmark, socialists cry when the money is taken away for their core-values at a liberal goverment, without the mention of the activities that actually were cheaper and more effective). Untruth because even Linus Torvalds works at a R&D-lab for open source today (OSDL). Linux is of course not about R&D Management, it is the evolutive reason Linus uses in his arguments, and I bet the IBM, Sun and others together pays even more for R&D every year (and that is more programmers-hours, less marketing/suit-hours).
you have to much time to spend. Get a job! or at least help in a community center or something.
1. mplayer runs very nicely on Gentoo. I still have problem getting sound in some quicktime movies though. Video-editing? Cinerella does the trick. Or buy a Mac to get iMovie and buy Final Cut for professionalism. /remember to sign the petition to get HL2 native), but the best games runs nicely on Linux anyway (Uplink, Quake).
2. using WineX(CVS, no payment) for the windoze games (Half-Life/Counterstrike
3. I don't like consistency, it destroys creativity. While some consistency is always needed, it is already happening, since most is based on basic UI rules (windows, background/desktop, top/bottom-bar, mouse-click).
I think Redhat is taking a step in the wrong direction (maybe mostly because I don't use GTK-apps anyway, only XMMS and the GIMP).
Most console apps have also the same setup (like --help).
this also happens in Denmark ... my teenage little sister writes a lot of weird messages. I thought that the english "shortcuts" in language was common, but then I saw it is becoming common here too. Must be very hard to press those tiny buttons all the time (like 5000 times a day or so). The weird thing about Danish language regulation is that all movements are allowed since we want a dynamic language. In ten years it is propably the common way to write our language in our schools too.
According to 2002/58/EC (British version):
(25) However, such devices, for instance so-called "cookies", can be a legitimate and useful tool, for example, in analysing the effectiveness of website design and advertising, and in verifying the identity of users engaged in on-line transactions. Where such devices, for instance cookies, are intended for a legitimate purpose, such as to facilitate the provision of information society services, their use should be allowed on condition that users are provided with clear and precise information in accordance with Directive 95/46/EC about the purposes of cookies or similar devices so as to ensure that users are made aware of information being placed on the terminal equipment they are using. Users should have the opportunity to refuse to have a cookie or similar device stored on their terminal equipment. This is particularly important where users other than the original user have access to the terminal equipment and thereby to any data containing privacy-sensitive information stored on such equipment. Information and the right to refuse may be offered once for the use of various devices to be installed on the user's terminal equipment during the same connection and also covering any further use that may be made of those devices during subsequent connections. The methods for giving information, offering a right to refuse or requesting consent should be made as user-friendly as possible. Access to specific website content may still be made conditional on the well-informed acceptance of a cookie or similar device, if it is used for a legitimate purpose.
This is one point of 49 other interesting ideas for the rights and protection of privacy in the electronic comm. sector. On the Danish EU-information site it is mentioned as still in progress in Denmark. Many IT-companies have had hearings for this directive, but cookies has not been discussed yet (so to my knowledge).
what is needed to construct a practical application is to create a self-learning application. I think the challenge would actually be the storage of all the collected data a robot would get. If the current self-learning apps would have enourmous sensor-data the robots would seem more "natural".
Doesn't mean that those guys can't get into another unix(family)-company (with all the money earned by the increase of stock-value) and start the whole thing again. But maybe you are right, when they are fat and rich (/richer) they probably get something better to do.
I just ended my master in interaction design among other design tasks. The idea of interaction design is to create tangible (mostly) interfaces that can connect to human logic and emotion (human computer interaction). Of course the tools looks like toy and act like a toy, simply because they are easy to use. What is the real challenge is to connect the evergrowing functionality with easy handling, and it seemes that the MIT guys, Professor Bill Verplank (the travelling lector *grin*) in northern Italy and Berkley (also music interaction mostly) and the study I went to here in Denmark (IT Product Design, Sønderborg) are the only educations and research facilities for easy handling in the world. My education was also quite focused on working with the industry (and especially the users). The industry also see the products as toys that is produced for showing off, but when a situation arouse they would suddenly see why we designed the products in those ways, and then get the full acknowledgement of our work. It has nothing to do with spectacular design, but with experiencing new ideas first hand, and even to create them as realistic as possible (isn't that was studying is about?).
l33t forcing SVG is not more different than l33t was forcing Flash some years ago. "To view this homepage please download Flash ver. xx". Flash is not included in windoze (but it is included in Mac OS X (IE and Safari), propably because mac-users watch/create flash-homepages all the time). Untestet? I trust open formats formed by W3C more than half-open formats from Macromedia.
And then Greenland, Vinland and Iceland was forgotten, only the Icelandic survived. Iceland is supposed to be closest to norse (old-nordisk) even today, so I heard in a history lesson once. I can only speak of Danish lingo, since it interested me for a while, and clearly our language had a great impact from France and Germany, and today, as many other countries (except France who fights it), are getting more English words into their language. 'Yes' is common used by sales-people, 'Fuck' is used by the youth and all computerised products are using English words. I remember that only IBM tried to use the Danish words invented by some geeks with too much time (don't know if they still do, haven't seen an IBM computer for a decade).
RedHat is probably focusing even more on company solutions, instead of being an all-round distribution. For the hardcore RedHat user (and certified at least) it means no change, maybe even improvements. You could see a problem for those users that has believed for some years now that Linux is RedHat, and can't order a package from the homepage or their local store. But for new users, they are seeing commercials from Lindows (WalMart), Mandrake and SuSE (especially here in Europe). For the l33t users there will be no influence at all, since they use Gentoo/LFS/Debian.
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I think it is very sad to go to slashdot for a few minutes to make fun of a guy. At least the Starwars guy inspires me with his great designs (not as a Starwars fan (which I am not!), but as a professional designer), while you just told that you are a karmawhore.
overcrowding is quite a negative word, as it is mostly used in combination of poor countries. But this list of countries by population density shows quite some rich countries in the top. Japan is not as crowded as Belgium (close), The Netherlands, Malta and The Vatican City. I think infrastructure and investments in this makes the big benefit (South Korea, Hong Kong and Scandinavia among others do this, and have quite low prices on broadband/mobiles).
and your suggestion would be? A cheap DTP-app (not a text-editor), that wouldn't require much knowledge to use?
I have been using Adobe InDesign for some time now, as it was required to make reports at our study. But what a irritating application, finding what you need are hidden in additional submenus, which you will find after using it for a month (when the report is about to be finished). When I had to make my portfolio at home, and only running Linux (+windoze for gaming) I would Scribus a try, since I wanted to create PDFs. Scribus 0.8 was great, nice usability, where you find things quite easy (eventhough I had to unlearn some of the bad interface from InDesign). The only problem was when I saved my nice document, I couldn't open it again ... I think it was because I put a page in front of the first page. I looked through the file (it is XML), but couldn't indicate the error. Then I installed Scribus 1.0 beta, and created a new file, inserted the other file, bit by bit and found the error (and learned how they thought the structure would be). I really like that you can correct the error yourself in the XML, but it would have been nicer to not have had it at all (in a dream-world). Another story (don't worry, the last one :) is that I was devastating trying to find a solution to use my TIFF files I made on the Macs at school in GIMP, until I found out that you could just insert them directly in Scribus (GIMP didn't like TIFF because of CMYK, I think the next version will?). Graphics/DTP-designers from the Quark/InDesign/ would think that this is an easy application to get the task done, but the glamour of using the Adobe package is off course not there (like I cared, but many others do).