The answers to your three questions regarding illegal software copying:
Was there violence, physical harm, threats or threats of physical harm to someone or their belongings?
Not very likely.
Was someone deprived of their basic rights or deprived of their belongings?
Yes, working under an assumption that belongings includes funds that are due to you. The copyright holder did not receive compensation for use of their software.
Does the "victim" or someone around them believe there was harm?
Yep, pretty sure the copyright holder believes they were harmed.
Now... the real question is if there should be jail time or not. I personally believe for almost all non-violent crimes there should be no jail time, let them serve probation, fines, community service, or other similar penalties. With the goal being restitution of the injured party (and if there truly is no one hurt, ie: non-violent drug crimes; then there should be little to no penalty at all)
Monkey Jam,
We sent the training discs to you under camouflage, didn't you recieve the "100 hours" to "free" Kung-Fu yet? That disc includes two styles: 31337 Kung-Fu, and r0x0r Kung-Fu. You must choose one path to enlightenment. You do remember how to use the training discs, correct?
Nephilium
I went on waltzing while taking another look down her evening formal. Nice view. Not foam rubber. -- Zebadiah John Carter in The Number of The Beast
BTW, he suggests keeping good coffee in the freezer. It doesn't lose its taste as quickly.
This may work if it's unroasted, but after roasting, the best storage container is a cool, dark, air-tight place. Freezing coffee beans will destroy the tasty, tasty oils on them.
A discussion I can participate in - coffee... now we just need to discuss alcohol as well...
Bah... spend more then a couple of minutes and some planning, and roast your own coffee. Then wait some your 8-24 hours, then grind it, and make it. As well as saving buckets of money on the beans (green beans are about half the price of roasted beans).
Nephilium, java-junky -You're still a beginner if you measure coffee intake by cups and not pots.
I'm sorry... JP4 was already released. It took place in New York with Matthew Broderick and was panned in the theaters (mainly because it was released with a mis-translated title)
Whoa there... Congress CANNOT do anything except what is prohibited, it's the other way around. They can ONLY do that which is allowed. (At least according to that crazy and wacky 10th amendment.)
There's a reason some of us wackos out here want an enumerated powers act...
There's one problem with the concept of charging $100 for each contract signed. Every piece of software under the sun would increase in price at *least* $100. Remember, any time you attempt to charge a business $x, they can (and usually will) raise their price to sell it to $x+y (where y = the original price.)
Now do I think EULA's are binding for software... Nope. Services (like MMORPG's) the EULA is probably binding; because you are paying for access, and a company can stop your access for any reason they want (as long as they stop charging you). One of the main reasons I cringe everytime I hear about a company trying to push towards "subscription" software.
Nephilium
"What's exceptional about Europe and America is not that they had slaves, it's that they ended slavery." -- Jonah Goldberg
Go to your local law enforcement agency, and ask for the forms to receive a concealed carry permit. Then after training, you can be one of those "armed persons".
(For those who don't know, Ohio has recently passed a CCW law...)
Nephilium
Does history record any situation where the majority was right? -- Lazarus Long in Time Enough for Love
Actually... I'll take it a step further. It's not mental blindness, it's willful ignorance. These are the people that will say they don't want to know anything about "that computer stuff". After painfully explaining to them what was wrong with the machine (damn you new.net, damn you to hell!), and explaining why it was causing problems (it's sending you to different places then you want to go, think of it as a malicious gas station attendant that reverses all directions for his own sick amusment), they'll wait until after you leave, and then re-install it.
These are also the same people who argued that Windows ME was the same as Windows 2K, because the Millenium was in 2000.
Nephilium
Slab: Jus' say "AarrghaarrghpleeassennononoUGH" -- Detritus' war on drugs Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay
Here's a column written by Neal Boortz (Libertarian talk show host) that talks about the same thing, including his thoughts and suggestions on how to keep people from throwing away a vote.
Nephilium
"But to say that the Bush administration is being hypocritical for not opting for war with Iran or North Korea because they are tyrannical states too is like saying you're a hypocrite for not buying the red Porsche and the red Mercedes because you bought the red Honda." -- Jonah Goldberg
Actually... I just set up a Linksys (PoS) router... and the manual explicitly said *NOT* to enable WEP and *NOT* to turn off broadcasting on the router.
The problem here is where the weak link is... the users. You could probably write a program that will display the warning:
Installing this software will cause us to hunt down your family and make them our slaves, pour sugar in your gas tank, and allow us up to fifty (50) percent of your paycheck.
Click OK to continue...
And people would still install it...
Nephilium
In retrospect, Victor was always a little unclear about those next few minutes. That's the way it goes. The moments that change your life are the ones that happen suddenly, like the one where you die. -- Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures
Now... it does depend on the Libertarian how simple minded they wish to get... one of the main selling parts of the party is that you can explain the basics of the system in about 16 words: ("Do whatever you want to yourself; but, cause provable injury to someone else, it's your fault."); The problem is then going into the various instances of the ideal. For example: Private Roads and Punishment systems. Here is where things get confusing and complicated in a usual discussion.
Although... Competition *could* be a great role for a library system, look at it this way: you have three library systems, one funded by a philantropist, one funded by government/public funds, one funded by a church. Don't you think they would each have different focuses? The religious parents take their kids to the church library, they don't have to worry about the *evil* Harry Potter books (and the kids do what kids have always done, sneak out the back and go to one of the other libraries).
I will say competition plays a great role in the food chain: You don't compete, you don't eat.
Nephilium
"Longer lines at airports do not a police state make." -- Jonah Goldberg
I do know that Eudora already has this feature. It's inside the filters section. I've got it set to read the subject and sender for anyone on my whitelist...
This will only remove the Windows Messenger 4.7.x that is installed with XP SP2.
(Insert warning about me not testing this here... Using Win 2000 for my W32 needs)
Nephilium
"'Chapter Fifteen, Elementary Necromancy'", she read out loud. "'Lesson One: Correct Use of Shovel...'" -- (Terry Pratchett, Jingo)
This story reminds me of the old joke...
A Democratic candidate and Republican candidate were discussing their grass roots methods of attracting voters. The Republican candidate said whenever he used a taxi, he would give a twenty dollar tip and say, "Vote Republican." The Democrat said he used a similar method, whenever he used a taxi, he would give a one cent tip and say, "Vote Republican."
Switch the parties listed above to your heart's content
Nephilium
"What's exceptional about Europe and America is not that they had slaves, it's that they ended slavery." -- Jonah Goldberg
Slashdot Mirror
Not very likely.
Yes, working under an assumption that belongings includes funds that are due to you. The copyright holder did not receive compensation for use of their software.
Yep, pretty sure the copyright holder believes they were harmed.
Now... the real question is if there should be jail time or not. I personally believe for almost all non-violent crimes there should be no jail time, let them serve probation, fines, community service, or other similar penalties. With the goal being restitution of the injured party (and if there truly is no one hurt, ie: non-violent drug crimes; then there should be little to no penalty at all)
Nephilium
It's just gotten worse, one girl dies and now we have the stupid net up at all of the hockey games.
Of course... my brother-in-law found it amusing when we got my nine year old neice chanting, "Damn the net!"
Nephilium
Monkey Jam,
We sent the training discs to you under camouflage, didn't you recieve the "100 hours" to "free" Kung-Fu yet? That disc includes two styles: 31337 Kung-Fu, and r0x0r Kung-Fu. You must choose one path to enlightenment. You do remember how to use the training discs, correct?
Nephilium
I went on waltzing while taking another look down her evening formal. Nice view. Not foam rubber. -- Zebadiah John Carter in The Number of The Beast
Porn game have been around for a while now... and people said that E.T. for Atari was worse then this...
Nephilium -Wasting time at work is what I do today...
This may work if it's unroasted, but after roasting, the best storage container is a cool, dark, air-tight place. Freezing coffee beans will destroy the tasty, tasty oils on them.
A discussion I can participate in - coffee... now we just need to discuss alcohol as well...
Nephilium
Bah... spend more then a couple of minutes and some planning, and roast your own coffee. Then wait some your 8-24 hours, then grind it, and make it. As well as saving buckets of money on the beans (green beans are about half the price of roasted beans).
Nephilium, java-junky
-You're still a beginner if you measure coffee intake by cups and not pots.
I'm sorry... that smell is *your* karma burning Mr. AC (drat you AC...)...
The end of Short Circuit 1 had the line, "Johnny Five... Alive"
Nephilium.
I'm sorry... JP4 was already released. It took place in New York with Matthew Broderick and was panned in the theaters (mainly because it was released with a mis-translated title)
Nephilium
You mean something like a security system?
Nephilium
Nah... it'll be these guys covering Metallica covering video game themes(Mp3 linked)...
Nephilium
I still think the worst hack wasn't Good Omens, but the horror that I have heard was done to Sandman.
"Puny Mortal! Bullets cannot hurt me. I am the SANDMAN!"
Nephilium
Whoa there... Congress CANNOT do anything except what is prohibited, it's the other way around. They can ONLY do that which is allowed. (At least according to that crazy and wacky 10th amendment.)
There's a reason some of us wackos out here want an enumerated powers act...
Nephilium
There's one problem with the concept of charging $100 for each contract signed. Every piece of software under the sun would increase in price at *least* $100. Remember, any time you attempt to charge a business $x, they can (and usually will) raise their price to sell it to $x+y (where y = the original price.)
Now do I think EULA's are binding for software... Nope. Services (like MMORPG's) the EULA is probably binding; because you are paying for access, and a company can stop your access for any reason they want (as long as they stop charging you). One of the main reasons I cringe everytime I hear about a company trying to push towards "subscription" software.
Nephilium
"What's exceptional about Europe and America is not that they had slaves, it's that they ended slavery." -- Jonah Goldberg
That statement shows in this quote from the article:
... but hell can be accomplished by one. -- Hubert Farnham, in Farnham's Freehold (early in Ch. 10)
"without spyware there's no such thing as free software."
I think this is probably the scariest line in the entire article.
Nephilium
It takes two to create a heaven
Go to your local law enforcement agency, and ask for the forms to receive a concealed carry permit. Then after training, you can be one of those "armed persons".
(For those who don't know, Ohio has recently passed a CCW law...)
Nephilium
Does history record any situation where the majority was right? -- Lazarus Long in Time Enough for Love
Actually... I'll take it a step further. It's not mental blindness, it's willful ignorance. These are the people that will say they don't want to know anything about "that computer stuff". After painfully explaining to them what was wrong with the machine (damn you new.net, damn you to hell!), and explaining why it was causing problems (it's sending you to different places then you want to go, think of it as a malicious gas station attendant that reverses all directions for his own sick amusment), they'll wait until after you leave, and then re-install it.
These are also the same people who argued that Windows ME was the same as Windows 2K, because the Millenium was in 2000.
Nephilium
Slab: Jus' say "AarrghaarrghpleeassennononoUGH" -- Detritus' war on drugs Terry Pratchett, Feet of Clay
Too Late...
Already been done...
Nephilium
Actually... There's already a hero named RIAA Lawyer on at least one server...
Nephilium
Here's a column written by Neal Boortz (Libertarian talk show host) that talks about the same thing, including his thoughts and suggestions on how to keep people from throwing away a vote.
Nephilium
"But to say that the Bush administration is being hypocritical for not opting for war with Iran or North Korea because they are tyrannical states too is like saying you're a hypocrite for not buying the red Porsche and the red Mercedes because you bought the red Honda." -- Jonah Goldberg
Actually... I just set up a Linksys (PoS) router... and the manual explicitly said *NOT* to enable WEP and *NOT* to turn off broadcasting on the router.
Nephilium
The problem here is where the weak link is... the users. You could probably write a program that will display the warning:
Installing this software will cause us to hunt down your family and make them our slaves, pour sugar in your gas tank, and allow us up to fifty (50) percent of your paycheck.
Click OK to continue...
And people would still install it...
Nephilium
In retrospect, Victor was always a little unclear about those next few minutes. That's the way it goes. The moments that change your life are the ones that happen suddenly, like the one where you die. -- Terry Pratchett, Moving Pictures
Now... it does depend on the Libertarian how simple minded they wish to get... one of the main selling parts of the party is that you can explain the basics of the system in about 16 words: ("Do whatever you want to yourself; but, cause provable injury to someone else, it's your fault."); The problem is then going into the various instances of the ideal. For example: Private Roads and Punishment systems. Here is where things get confusing and complicated in a usual discussion.
Although... Competition *could* be a great role for a library system, look at it this way: you have three library systems, one funded by a philantropist, one funded by government/public funds, one funded by a church. Don't you think they would each have different focuses? The religious parents take their kids to the church library, they don't have to worry about the *evil* Harry Potter books (and the kids do what kids have always done, sneak out the back and go to one of the other libraries).
I will say competition plays a great role in the food chain: You don't compete, you don't eat.
Nephilium
"Longer lines at airports do not a police state make." -- Jonah Goldberg
I do know that Eudora already has this feature. It's inside the filters section. I've got it set to read the subject and sender for anyone on my whitelist...
Nephilium
I know that NTBugTraq had an article about removing the Windows Messenger after it got re-installed. Quoted below is the command to remove it:
RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove
This will only remove the Windows Messenger 4.7.x that is installed with XP SP2.
(Insert warning about me not testing this here... Using Win 2000 for my W32 needs)
Nephilium
"'Chapter Fifteen, Elementary Necromancy'", she read out loud. "'Lesson One: Correct Use of Shovel...'" -- (Terry Pratchett, Jingo)
This story reminds me of the old joke...
A Democratic candidate and Republican candidate were discussing their grass roots methods of attracting voters. The Republican candidate said whenever he used a taxi, he would give a twenty dollar tip and say, "Vote Republican." The Democrat said he used a similar method, whenever he used a taxi, he would give a one cent tip and say, "Vote Republican."
Switch the parties listed above to your heart's content
Nephilium
"What's exceptional about Europe and America is not that they had slaves, it's that they ended slavery." -- Jonah Goldberg