I think WoW was good for one thing. It got people who never heard of MMO's, or people who were afraid to try the more hardcore MMO's to "get their feet wet".
It's not necessarily something that future MMO's should draw from. Of course there will be WoW clones, but I think all of the companies will benefit from the success of WoW.
You'll see people start with WoW and find that they need more depth and challenge. Games like FFXI, Everquest, and the soon to come Vanguard will all benefit from the influx of gamers into the genre.
I don't think WoW will be "beaten". It will co-exist with all the other MMO's, and everyone will benefit from WoW's ability to attract the casual gamer.
I guess I'm a dormant gamer with hardcore gamer spending habits...I still buy all the games like I did when I had more time than I knew what to do with, but now half of them sit unfinished.
The problem with the skill based system is it isn't easy to figure out how a person can benefit your party...you have to have a 5 min conversation to figure out what they actually *are* since you can't rely on any type of base class to determine their primary role.
In class based games if you need a healer, damage dealer, tank, or supporter, it's as easy as finding someone of that class.
Hitting up the used racks at EB makes a lot more sense to that crowd than shoehorning the wii's control system into games not initially designed for it
I think that crowd will pick up the cheap Wii remakes if the new controls positively add to the experience...and we have no reason to think they will just go around remaking any old cube game. I'm sure they will only pick ones that will be better for it. Especially if it is comparably priced to the used games.
Nothing stopping them from adding wifi support either. I'd definitely buy a wifi enabled, graphically overhauled, wii controller remake over the cube version in the used bin.
I thought Nintendo was supposed to be about innovation? Make NEW games around the interface, rather than rehashing the old stuff.
Why can't they do both? You honestly think they would sacrifice new ideas to remake cube games? I seriously doubt it.
If you don't want to take part in a game that could potentially last 10 hours, just play another multiplayer game mode that doesn't. What's the problem?
You're right on the money there. The Bush Administration is the biggest threat this country has ever faced, but they are able to mask what they are doing so easily:
1. Fearmongering
2. Their foreign military campaigns (don't get me started on that)
3. They run the media
4. A large number of Americans are complete idiots
We're losing our freedom, and something has to be done to stop it. I'm ashamed to be a US citizen.
"And for the love of God, don't try to create anything innovative or different or try new things or be original, as it will totally screw up the list."
Plus it will be labeled a "gimmick" by the gimmick police that seem to have sprouted up in the past few years.
You seem to be arguing by using extremes. I'd simply just like to have to use my head a little, and not fall asleep while gunning down mindless enemies for 15 hours.
Perhaps it is because Nvidia designs better cards and certainly has better drivers.
Why would any rational person shun a company simply because they don't release documentation for their chipsets? The world doesn't revolve around open source.
The game had the appropriate rating of "Mature" from the very beginning. The hot coffee mod should not have changed that.
Yes, they may have witheld hidden game content from the ESRB, but it was not content that was
a) accessible through normal play
b) content that would make it an AO game.
I'm not a lawyer, but I think rationally. I wish these people would too.
When i'm in "MMORPG mode" (which lasts 3-6 months usually before burning out and taking a few months off), I don't buy nearly as many games. I buy games I would play while not being able to play the MMORPG i'm addicted to. I buy a lot of Nintendo DS/GBA games during these times.
I would like to think that the handheld market would not be affected by MMORPGs very much. Time consuming PC and console games take the worst beating I think.
Of course in my case I make up for it during my MMORPG downtime. I think during my last "break" I went out and bought 4 or 5 PS2 games that had come out in the past year that I had been interested in but knew I would not play at the time. A couple titles, God of War comes to mind, were already available for $20 new.
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You could just use the analog attachment to do moves like that. It has motion sensing. You could still use the attachment to move forward, back, strafe left, strafe right, but you could perform some type of hand movement to make your guy turn around.
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That doesn't have anything to do with the Wii. I think you meant to say whatever game you were thinking of that implements aiming/movement that way. Nothing stopping developers from keeping the cross-hair centered.
Why even complain about something like this? If you don't have time to for these types of things, or you don't find them fun, just accept the fact that this part of the game isn't for you. Those of us that do have the time and the desire, enjoy "working" to unlock extra content.
So please, find something worthwhile to whine about.
Perish the thought you actually did some research on a game before purchasing it to find out how much content you would have to unlock.
If Emergence has multiplayer then sure, it might be worth $20. They will add it later as you say, and by that time you've most likely paid more than a game that was completed and sold for $50.
Congratulations. You're a victim of episodic content.
Trust me, companies aren't doing this for the consumer, they're doing it to make more money without you noticing as easily.
I think you misunderstood about the $5. If I am to buy a finished game, I will gladly pay $50 even if it falls shy of 50 hours of gameplay. What isn't worth my money, is paying $20 for a piece of the $50 game, only to be sold the rest of it over time for ultimately more money. So yes, $5 for an episode is about all I would pay since it's only a small fraction of the game. I'm not sure what kind of games you play, but most games i've purchased have anywhere from 15-100+ hours of content. Even 15 hours (God of War comes to mind) is worth $50 because I know it's a one time price for a finished game.
The problem is some people are under the impression that using blu-ray is going to somehow enhance their gaming. I guess if you want your game full of HD FMV then sure, but that's not really a good thing.
Developers have managed the same resolutions on the PC for a while now using DVD technology. Extra storage space gained from blu-ray discs is not really an issue.
Don't kid yourselves. Sony is making you buy the Blu-Ray simply because they think they can have a repeat of the PS2/DVD success. It isn't going to happen. They could of made a great video game system for a reasonable price. They chose not to, and we can just as easily choose not to buy it.
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Give me the ads...just don't expect me to pay more than $10 for the game.
I think WoW was good for one thing. It got people who never heard of MMO's, or people who were afraid to try the more hardcore MMO's to "get their feet wet".
It's not necessarily something that future MMO's should draw from. Of course there will be WoW clones, but I think all of the companies will benefit from the success of WoW.
You'll see people start with WoW and find that they need more depth and challenge. Games like FFXI, Everquest, and the soon to come Vanguard will all benefit from the influx of gamers into the genre.
I don't think WoW will be "beaten". It will co-exist with all the other MMO's, and everyone will benefit from WoW's ability to attract the casual gamer.
I guess I'm a dormant gamer with hardcore gamer spending habits...I still buy all the games like I did when I had more time than I knew what to do with, but now half of them sit unfinished.
The problem with the skill based system is it isn't easy to figure out how a person can benefit your party...you have to have a 5 min conversation to figure out what they actually *are* since you can't rely on any type of base class to determine their primary role.
In class based games if you need a healer, damage dealer, tank, or supporter, it's as easy as finding someone of that class.
Nothing stopping them from adding wifi support either. I'd definitely buy a wifi enabled, graphically overhauled, wii controller remake over the cube version in the used bin.
Why can't they do both? You honestly think they would sacrifice new ideas to remake cube games? I seriously doubt it.
If you don't want to take part in a game that could potentially last 10 hours, just play another multiplayer game mode that doesn't. What's the problem?
I'd love to see Mai Shiranui join the SSBB! She's dreamy.
Definitely. I was born in 81, and was lucky enough to grow up during the best years in video game history -- the Nintendo.
I'm sure it's because this isn't a new game. just a port of sf 2 hyper fighting. No need to give it a new name.
You're right on the money there. The Bush Administration is the biggest threat this country has ever faced, but they are able to mask what they are doing so easily:
1. Fearmongering
2. Their foreign military campaigns (don't get me started on that)
3. They run the media
4. A large number of Americans are complete idiots
We're losing our freedom, and something has to be done to stop it. I'm ashamed to be a US citizen.
"And for the love of God, don't try to create anything innovative or different or try new things or be original, as it will totally screw up the list."
Plus it will be labeled a "gimmick" by the gimmick police that seem to have sprouted up in the past few years.
You seem to be arguing by using extremes. I'd simply just like to have to use my head a little, and not fall asleep while gunning down mindless enemies for 15 hours.
Perhaps it is because Nvidia designs better cards and certainly has better drivers.
Why would any rational person shun a company simply because they don't release documentation for their chipsets? The world doesn't revolve around open source.
The only thing that ever brings me to a blog is when they leech off of a news site by trying to sit between the real article and the user.
WoW is probably the most casual and MMO newbie friendly game on the market...a close second would be CoH/CoV.
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That's a good point, I didn't think of it from that aspect.
The game had the appropriate rating of "Mature" from the very beginning. The hot coffee mod should not have changed that. Yes, they may have witheld hidden game content from the ESRB, but it was not content that was a) accessible through normal play b) content that would make it an AO game. I'm not a lawyer, but I think rationally. I wish these people would too.
I'll stick to loading up agility on my Thief for that trick attack multiplier.
When i'm in "MMORPG mode" (which lasts 3-6 months usually before burning out and taking a few months off), I don't buy nearly as many games. I buy games I would play while not being able to play the MMORPG i'm addicted to. I buy a lot of Nintendo DS/GBA games during these times.
I would like to think that the handheld market would not be affected by MMORPGs very much. Time consuming PC and console games take the worst beating I think.
Of course in my case I make up for it during my MMORPG downtime. I think during my last "break" I went out and bought 4 or 5 PS2 games that had come out in the past year that I had been interested in but knew I would not play at the time. A couple titles, God of War comes to mind, were already available for $20 new.
You could just use the analog attachment to do moves like that. It has motion sensing. You could still use the attachment to move forward, back, strafe left, strafe right, but you could perform some type of hand movement to make your guy turn around.
That doesn't have anything to do with the Wii. I think you meant to say whatever game you were thinking of that implements aiming/movement that way. Nothing stopping developers from keeping the cross-hair centered.
Why even complain about something like this? If you don't have time to for these types of things, or you don't find them fun, just accept the fact that this part of the game isn't for you. Those of us that do have the time and the desire, enjoy "working" to unlock extra content.
So please, find something worthwhile to whine about.
Perish the thought you actually did some research on a game before purchasing it to find out how much content you would have to unlock.
If Emergence has multiplayer then sure, it might be worth $20. They will add it later as you say, and by that time you've most likely paid more than a game that was completed and sold for $50. Congratulations. You're a victim of episodic content.
Trust me, companies aren't doing this for the consumer, they're doing it to make more money without you noticing as easily.
I think you misunderstood about the $5. If I am to buy a finished game, I will gladly pay $50 even if it falls shy of 50 hours of gameplay. What isn't worth my money, is paying $20 for a piece of the $50 game, only to be sold the rest of it over time for ultimately more money. So yes, $5 for an episode is about all I would pay since it's only a small fraction of the game. I'm not sure what kind of games you play, but most games i've purchased have anywhere from 15-100+ hours of content. Even 15 hours (God of War comes to mind) is worth $50 because I know it's a one time price for a finished game.
The problem is some people are under the impression that using blu-ray is going to somehow enhance their gaming. I guess if you want your game full of HD FMV then sure, but that's not really a good thing.
Developers have managed the same resolutions on the PC for a while now using DVD technology. Extra storage space gained from blu-ray discs is not really an issue.
Don't kid yourselves. Sony is making you buy the Blu-Ray simply because they think they can have a repeat of the PS2/DVD success. It isn't going to happen. They could of made a great video game system for a reasonable price. They chose not to, and we can just as easily choose not to buy it.