Thats right folks!! As if that wasn't crayzy enough, think about the fact that he actually tell us about it! (bbc radio 5 recording ).
WHY?? Why telling us about that?? Are we suppose to think -"wee, think of the odds of that"?? Huh?? What REALLY blows my mind is that it's NOWERE to be found in the MEDIA!!!
Is the journalists at bbc on drugs??
There is a whole lot of other strange stuff to be found on the "conspiracy" sites (whatreallyhappened.com et al), but this comes from the horses mouth!!
I am confused, my brain has deadlocked. KernelPanic type of thing..
>>You did not understand my post. Scientists do not support ideas, they stone them
I didn't expect to get "stoned" for a theory I don't even support (I just said it was cool-ish, like the idea of us not coming from the apes), my only concern here is that I can't (couldn't some years ago) find anyone explaining what was wrong with the theory...except just saying "this is not how relativity works" (they were quite proude of just understand the theory, no way in hell they were going into paradoxes). Anyway the "I don't like being stoned" was kind of a joke (inhale smoke kind of thing).
To be honest I am not interested in this stuff anymore (I DID study this long time ago, but you may win the pissing contest), though it would be fun finding a site www.thisiswhatswrongwithautodynamics.org, but instead I find people getting really touchy when this subject is up, I wouldn't be getting this kind of heat if I thought the idea with the earth being flat was cool...
>> I've been educated in physics, therefore I must be in on the plot.
Huh?? There is a plot?? Where...show me!!! I want to know!!! Can I read about it on whatreallyhappened?
I don't understand why ppl turn so defensive... I just thought the "redicule and intimidation" (and agressive tones in general) was strange... I just don't get it. I suppose it's a good thing to be passionate...
>>Your issue is that you seem to want to question without being questioned in returned.
I may have been unclear...
I didn't question anything, even if I had, I wouldn't mind beeing questioned. There is a big difference in "being questioned" and rediculed and intimidated...
I had a discussion with a "creationist" some time ago, and there was no way in hell (eh...) to get to any kind of agreement. He made references to studies/papers made by other creationists, I could only respond with referenses by people not being creationists, hence we threw "facts/references" at each other, and hadn't I given up, I would still be wasting my time doing it.
Note, his "facts" was as clear and natural to him as our "facts" are to us.. The main difference (in my opinion) is that his views are static while mine isn't... I really tried to take his view on things, but I just couldn't make any sense of it.
My point is: Try to be open (peace love and all that).
Anyone question the "religions of today" will be listed as a crackpot.
I have been checking out Autodynamics and I find the stuff cool-ish (ok, it was some years ago). I am not saying I like the theory (the gravitons are, eh.. hard to digest) but there is a different angle that I like. I am NOT into this kind of stuff (physics/math), so I wont argue one way or the other, but my point is, if you question anything today you will find yourself stoned by redicule and intimidation.
So does it run qtopia? Nowhere have I been able to find out what UI it has. Now, will I have to get a SDK from Trolltech?? Will it do on device debugging, will Motocoder tech-support have any idea of what I am talking about (I'm not getting my hopes up here..). Dunno, I am VERY sceptical these days. Been messing around with J2ME and having a look at Symbian I REALLY want a proper solution!! Linux and Qtopia COULD be that solution, but have you guys been over at the forums at qtopia.net?? Not one of the most busy ones around, on the other hand the j2me.org forums is spammed by stupid newbe questions a lá Q - "I want to to this, how do I do it?" A - You can't (exept on some obscure devices), see spec says yes but it's up to the implementation". The Symbian forum is better, but we are talking about 30-ish devices and half of them are Nokias..... Oh, and you can't (well you CAN, but it really sucks) develop in Linux and besides, they will try to suck the last penny/cent from you with their "Forum Nokia PRO" (4000 euro !!!!!!!!), and their j2me support is almost criminal insane, I am telling you, I almost thought they were sabotaging the java platform....
Ah well, I am on vacation but I soon have to decide on which platform my KILLER app will be released... and my (eh ours..) app will drive sales of that phone!! Seriously!
Use a mobile with ssh (which you can proxy), that way the only thing that is revealed is the first node the dissident is connecting to. There exists java and symbian clients.
Ok, now I should say something about Gimps/GTKs stability on windows, and it not really being an alternative (on that platform, on Linux/UNIX PS is nop), HOWEVER I don't use Windows (only use that for "special" development) so I can't really say that (besides, I don't wear an asbestos suit), I could only give you hersay about the stability/usabilty....but You probably know more about that than I do.
I could give you another example though!!
BIBBLE!!
It really kicks a**!!
It's expensive ($69 for Linux), but I *think* they are selling licenses enough to cover their expenses. The alternative (on Linux) should be UFRaw.
On windows there are free as in beer alternatives but bibblelabs seem to survive anyhow...
I have worked on a "commercial" project that had to be closed down due to OSS "competition", so now I could/should start working for the other OSS project that "killed" us, to receive welfare payments.. right?
If you take an ordinary SLR with an prosumer tele on it and shoot in good light, how big can you make that picture before sharpness becomes an issue... (that ofcourse depends of a far away from the picture you are...)?? I use an 300D with good lenses, not the $3k lenses but $300-$500 lenses, and I assure you that befor I hit the "pixel-wall" I run into the "sharpness-wall", so is 6M pixel enough?? Until I get some $3k lenses I won't "upgrade" the body...
A new fenomen is that people are starting to return lenses -"it's not sharp wide open" -"it's something wrong with the lens", as icmp posted on dpreview people are blowing up their pictures like never before... so to sum it up, the quality of the digital SLR cameras has given the lensmakers headache (some make both cameras and lenses ofcourse...). Me... I calibrate the darn things myself (latest is my "old" 100-300 USM which became VERY nice:):)
I don't know, but software is a tool used by companies as a part of making money, now if an US company can't use some software because patents infringements fear, THEY loose out. The European/Indian company which CAN use the tool (lets pretend it's the best one for the job) will make money (As will the company making the software). As I see it, if the rest of the world refuse to play by US-patent rules, US will suffer.
One solution for a US-based company is ofcourse to create a company outside US (ring a bell?) and outsorce. The (say) Indian company does the job, and THEY use the software and, hey presto, no problema!! AND it's cheap labour. US becomes one net importer which only consumes things (hey...wait a little...isn't..) and when everybody has sucked the last life of the greenback, they'll drop it and find some other bigass market (hmm...now, what is the Chinese stands on US patents?).
What one have to ask oneself is "Do I want to join a club that could (should?) have 130135502 (counted on pop of 6506775106) members??
This is provided that the IQ test REALLY "weeds out" 98%... Which I find a little hard to belive. I now of NONE who hasn't scored over 130 (Stanford-Binet) on some of the "serious" IQ tests!! This could be that I socialize with "smart" people, but I don't think so... I think I socialize with people who has taken IQ-test since they were toddlers.. (which SHOULDN'T make a difference). If you are motivated and have done this tests before (talking about 20+ tests) you WILL qualify!! If that doesn't help, get some OMEGA-3, or if you really are into that, some performance enhancing drugs (search yahoo).
Well..I know, and I do understand, I just had an itch to scratch...you know..really frustrated with the implementations of the apis...
However, the success of the java is dependent of the quality of the apis, and there is much (imnsho) to be improved... Myself, I wont touch java (for any serious project) ever again... As to how much money SUN is actually making from these royalties, I don't know.
When was the last time you saw an ad for some device claiming "midp v.X.X"?? If you buy a device (say a mobile) the seller usually have no idea of what version of midp the device is, heck most people don't know what j2me is.... Face it, in the beginning people was exited over the possibility of running "cool apps" on their phones...well some years down the line and most people learned that the chances of some "cool app/game" working on their device is slim, you have to d/l the app/game version for that particular device...
Having been close to j2me developers, I can tell you they HATE sun..see, to much of the api is "up to the implementation" , so the "write once run everywhere" is a sad joke... And people has realized that...none is going into a store and ask "is this midp 2.0?? does it have sockets, more than one?? server sockets, does it support jsrxxx?....
Head over to the j2me.org forum and you will see (apart from the same newbie questions over and over again) questions like "I would like to do this, and then the user can do this, then the software do zat, how do I do it?" to which an answer is posted - "it depends on which device you are using, but for the most part....nope..can't be done"..
To be honest I made some developing myself, but soon got fed up with it and moved over to Symbian, which limits the number of potential custormers - the device has to be a "smartphone"... but then again, doing it in midp x.x also limits the number of targeted devices... Oh, and I tell you, once you got your app through QA, some bug shows up, which you fix..and everything is dandy until you realize that you broke the builds for some devices you scream about bugs in the kvm, read the affected javadoc and realize that it is possible to interpret the api in great many ways and often it's "up to the implemntator"...
Good lord, I get to upset...can't spell, feel light headed..I need to take a nap.
There is not much point in me going "me too", but here goes... me to
There seems to be some misconception about Linux users, mostly that we are only "in it" for the "free beer", this is NOT the case!! I have paid for the software I use (if there was an option..).
Dear PhD,
I belive the quote was "..ex-hacker done good Kevin Mitnick", not "..ex-hacker nowadays good, Kevin Mitnick". Could be that my understanding of the english language isn't what it should be.
He gotta be kidding... the last trick (well actually not the last...) sun did was to support SCO in their attack on IBM, I say, mod him funny or is he just trolling??
I'm sure someone here already wrote this, but I am to lazy to read through the posts.
As someone posted earlier, what about cellphones?? Should be easy to do j2me/symbian/etc ports.... There are lots of OpenSource crypto libs out there, so getting it out the door fast should be easy.
Actually I was in an channel some weeks ago and this dude was really upset on Noka for
1. Trying to sqeese the developers to pay for some "extended" "PRO" program,which you'd have to join (pay money) to get some API's (crypto etc),Documents and support.
2. Not releasing CodeWarrior mobile for free (They bought it), instead they are trying to squeese the developers for their last dime.
3.Not releasing the emulators for Linux (You have the J2ME ones...), even though they have been kind enough to provide you with an old gcc (crosscompile) on their site.
Well he went on (I prob missed a few things here) and said that someone ought to make some bad malware to "Phuck em up". I am seriously!! That was what he said (hackerish eh?...).
Was it this dude or was it someone else doin it for some other reason??
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I read somewhere about the pioneer anomaly, but to be honest, this theory seem to complicated for my brainwashed eh...brain..
This is getting ridiculous!
I have been surfing around the conspiracy-ish sites and I have found a lot of information that is availible for anyone (maybe not north korea...) with access to internet. On Indymedia.co.uk I found a comment about that the CEO Managing Director of Visor Consultants said in an radio interview (radio 5 bbc) that they had an 1,000 person strong exercise which drilled the London Underground being bombed at the exact same locations, at the exact same times, as happened in real life.
Thats right folks!!
As if that wasn't crayzy enough, think about the fact that he actually tell us about it! (bbc radio 5 recording ).
WHY??
Why telling us about that??
Are we suppose to think -"wee, think of the odds of that"?? Huh??
What REALLY blows my mind is that it's NOWERE to be found in the MEDIA!!!
Is the journalists at bbc on drugs??
There is a whole lot of other strange stuff to be found on the "conspiracy" sites (whatreallyhappened.com et al), but this comes from the horses mouth!!
I am confused, my brain has deadlocked. KernelPanic type of thing..
I have used viamichelin.com for years, it's great!
>>Refusing to look at, deliberately misunderstanding, or ignoring evidence will get you labelled as a crackpot
I find this so funny!! Hilarious!
Keep it up!
No no no...
>> >>I don't like being stoned
>>You did not understand my post. Scientists do not support ideas, they stone them
I didn't expect to get "stoned" for a theory I don't even support (I just said it was cool-ish, like the idea of us not coming from the apes), my only concern here is that I can't (couldn't some years ago) find anyone explaining what was wrong with the theory...except just saying "this is not how relativity works" (they were quite proude of just understand the theory, no way in hell they were going into paradoxes). Anyway the "I don't like being stoned" was kind of a joke (inhale smoke kind of thing).
To be honest I am not interested in this stuff anymore (I DID study this long time ago, but you may win the pissing contest), though it would be fun finding a site www.thisiswhatswrongwithautodynamics.org, but instead I find people getting really touchy when this subject is up, I wouldn't be getting this kind of heat if I thought the idea with the earth being flat was cool...
>> I've been educated in physics, therefore I must be in on the plot.
Huh?? There is a plot?? Where...show me!!! I want to know!!! Can I read about it on whatreallyhappened?
I don't understand why ppl turn so defensive... I just thought the "redicule and intimidation" (and agressive tones in general) was strange... I just don't get it. I suppose it's a good thing to be passionate...
>>Your issue is that you seem to want to question without being questioned in returned.
I may have been unclear...
I didn't question anything, even if I had, I wouldn't mind beeing questioned. There is a big difference in "being questioned" and rediculed and intimidated...
I had a discussion with a "creationist" some time ago, and there was no way in hell (eh...) to get to any kind of agreement. He made references to studies/papers made by other creationists, I could only respond with referenses by people not being creationists, hence we threw "facts/references" at each other, and hadn't I given up, I would still be wasting my time doing it.
Note, his "facts" was as clear and natural to him as our "facts" are to us.. The main difference (in my opinion) is that his views are static while mine isn't... I really tried to take his view on things, but I just couldn't make any sense of it.
My point is: Try to be open (peace love and all that).
Anyone question the "religions of today" will be listed as a crackpot.
;)
I have been checking out Autodynamics and I find the stuff cool-ish (ok, it was some years ago).
I am not saying I like the theory (the gravitons are, eh.. hard to digest) but there is a different angle that I like. I am NOT into this kind of stuff (physics/math), so I wont argue one way or the other, but my point is, if you question anything today you will find yourself stoned by redicule and intimidation.
I don't like being stoned
So does it run qtopia? Nowhere have I been able to find out what UI it has. Now, will I have to get a SDK from Trolltech?? Will it do on device debugging, will Motocoder tech-support have any idea of what I am talking about (I'm not getting my hopes up here..). Dunno, I am VERY sceptical these days. Been messing around with J2ME and having a look at Symbian I REALLY want a proper solution!! Linux and Qtopia COULD be that solution, but have you guys been over at the forums at qtopia.net?? Not one of the most busy ones around, on the other hand the j2me.org forums is spammed by stupid newbe questions a lá Q - "I want to to this, how do I do it?" A - You can't (exept on some obscure devices), see spec says yes but it's up to the implementation". The Symbian forum is better, but we are talking about 30-ish devices and half of them are Nokias..... Oh, and you can't (well you CAN, but it really sucks) develop in Linux and besides, they will try to suck the last penny/cent from you with their "Forum Nokia PRO" (4000 euro !!!!!!!!), and their j2me support is almost criminal insane, I am telling you, I almost thought they were sabotaging the java platform....
Ah well, I am on vacation but I soon have to decide on which platform my KILLER app will be released... and my (eh ours..) app will drive sales of that phone!! Seriously!
Use a mobile with ssh (which you can proxy), that way the only thing that is revealed is the first node the dissident is connecting to. There exists java and symbian clients.
Internet sales are run by the good(TM) folks at Google AND DMOZ!! If you have an ebusiness you better get into DMOZ, at ANY cost!! One more time:
get listed on DMOZ an ANY cost!!
Can I too get to be an DMOZ editor?? That would be grand..
Ok, now I should say something about Gimps/GTKs stability on windows, and it not really being an alternative (on that platform, on Linux/UNIX PS is nop), HOWEVER I don't use Windows (only use that for "special" development) so I can't really say that (besides, I don't wear an asbestos suit), I could only give you hersay about the stability/usabilty....but You probably know more about that than I do.
I could give you another example though!!
BIBBLE!!
It really kicks a**!!
It's expensive ($69 for Linux), but I *think* they are selling licenses enough to cover their expenses. The alternative (on Linux) should be UFRaw.
On windows there are free as in beer alternatives but bibblelabs seem to survive anyhow...
Yeah...it wasn't free (as in beer)!
Well... any Psychopathic controlfreak will get very exited (as in "oh...yeahh...BABY.....yesss"), this cant end well....
Better buy some stocks right now, sell them when RockerGates takes control, move to some obscure Iland and spend the rest of the days writing poetry.
Ahhh... a touchy subject....
:)
I have worked on a "commercial" project that had to be closed down due to OSS "competition", so now I could/should start working for the other OSS project that "killed" us, to receive welfare payments.. right?
Who is paying??
My cats breath smells like catfood...
Quality...
:) :)
If you take an ordinary SLR with an prosumer tele on it and shoot in good light, how big can you make that picture before sharpness becomes an issue... (that ofcourse depends of a far away from the picture you are...)?? I use an 300D with good lenses, not the $3k lenses but $300-$500 lenses, and I assure you that befor I hit the "pixel-wall" I run into the "sharpness-wall", so is 6M pixel enough?? Until I get some $3k lenses I won't "upgrade" the body...
A new fenomen is that people are starting to return lenses -"it's not sharp wide open" -"it's something wrong with the lens", as icmp posted on dpreview people are blowing up their pictures like never before... so to sum it up, the quality of the digital SLR cameras has given the lensmakers headache (some make both cameras and lenses ofcourse...). Me... I calibrate the darn things myself (latest is my "old" 100-300 USM which became VERY nice
>>Did I miss some things??
..) and when everybody has sucked the last life of the greenback, they'll drop it and find some other bigass market (hmm...now, what is the Chinese stands on US patents?).
I don't know, but software is a tool used by companies as a part of making money, now if an US company can't use some software because patents infringements fear, THEY loose out. The European/Indian company which CAN use the tool (lets pretend it's the best one for the job) will make money (As will the company making the software). As I see it, if the rest of the world refuse to play by US-patent rules, US will suffer.
One solution for a US-based company is ofcourse to create a company outside US (ring a bell?) and outsorce. The (say) Indian company does the job, and THEY use the software and, hey presto, no problema!! AND it's cheap labour. US becomes one net importer which only consumes things (hey...wait a little...isn't
Interesting times ahead!!
What one have to ask oneself is "Do I want to join a club that could (should?) have 130135502 (counted on pop of 6506775106) members??
This is provided that the IQ test REALLY "weeds out" 98%... Which I find a little hard to belive. I now of NONE who hasn't scored over 130 (Stanford-Binet) on some of the "serious" IQ tests!! This could be that I socialize with "smart" people, but I don't think so... I think I socialize with people who has taken IQ-test since they were toddlers.. (which SHOULDN'T make a difference). If you are motivated and have done this tests before (talking about 20+ tests) you WILL qualify!! If that doesn't help, get some OMEGA-3, or if you really are into that, some performance enhancing drugs (search yahoo).
Well..I know, and I do understand, I just had an itch to scratch...you know..really frustrated with the implementations of the apis...
However, the success of the java is dependent of the quality of the apis, and there is much (imnsho) to be improved... Myself, I wont touch java (for any serious project) ever again... As to how much money SUN is actually making from these royalties, I don't know.
I don't think so....
When was the last time you saw an ad for some device claiming "midp v.X.X"?? If you buy a device (say a mobile) the seller usually have no idea of what version of midp the device is, heck most people don't know what j2me is.... Face it, in the beginning people was exited over the possibility of running "cool apps" on their phones...well some years down the line and most people learned that the chances of some "cool app/game" working on their device is slim, you have to d/l the app/game version for that particular device...
Having been close to j2me developers, I can tell you they HATE sun..see, to much of the api is "up to the implementation" , so the "write once run everywhere" is a sad joke... And people has realized that...none is going into a store and ask "is this midp 2.0?? does it have sockets, more than one?? server sockets, does it support jsrxxx?....
Head over to the j2me.org forum and you will see (apart from the same newbie questions over and over again) questions like "I would like to do this, and then the user can do this, then the software do zat, how do I do it?" to which an answer is posted - "it depends on which device you are using, but for the most part....nope..can't be done"..
To be honest I made some developing myself, but soon got fed up with it and moved over to Symbian, which limits the number of potential custormers - the device has to be a "smartphone"... but then again, doing it in midp x.x also limits the number of targeted devices... Oh, and I tell you, once you got your app through QA, some bug shows up, which you fix..and everything is dandy until you realize that you broke the builds for some devices you scream about bugs in the kvm, read the affected javadoc and realize that it is possible to interpret the api in great many ways and often it's "up to the implemntator"...
Good lord, I get to upset...can't spell, feel light headed..I need to take a nap.
There is not much point in me going "me too", but here goes... me to
There seems to be some misconception about Linux users, mostly that we are only "in it" for the "free beer", this is NOT the case!! I have paid for the software I use (if there was an option..).
Dear PhD, I belive the quote was "..ex-hacker done good Kevin Mitnick", not "..ex-hacker nowadays good, Kevin Mitnick". Could be that my understanding of the english language isn't what it should be.
RedHat, RedHat and RedHat. Earlier RedHat RedHat RedHat, this was in reply to RedHat RedHat RedHat!!
.....
BWAHAAAA
OK, try this
RedHat
RedHat
RedHat
BWA HA HA HAAA YOU CANT STOP ME... RedHat RedHat RedHat RedHat
He gotta be kidding... the last trick (well actually not the last...) sun did was to support SCO in their attack on IBM, I say, mod him funny or is he just trolling?? I'm sure someone here already wrote this, but I am to lazy to read through the posts.
As someone posted earlier, what about cellphones?? Should be easy to do j2me/symbian/etc ports.... There are lots of OpenSource crypto libs out there, so getting it out the door fast should be easy.
The question is rather, is the spirit stoned?
OR
is the spirit just stuck?
OR
Has there been to much to drink?
Actually I was in an channel some weeks ago and this dude was really upset on Noka for
1. Trying to sqeese the developers to pay for some "extended" "PRO" program,which you'd have to join (pay money) to get some API's (crypto etc),Documents and support.
2. Not releasing CodeWarrior mobile for free (They bought it), instead they are trying to squeese the developers for their last dime.
3.Not releasing the emulators for Linux (You have the J2ME ones...), even though they have been kind enough to provide you with an old gcc (crosscompile) on their site.
Well he went on (I prob missed a few things here) and said that someone ought to make some bad malware to "Phuck em up". I am seriously!! That was what he said (hackerish eh?...).
Was it this dude or was it someone else doin it for some other reason??