Price matters a lot to me. Maybe if there's a game or game system that I REALLY want I will get it...but I may end up waiting until the price goes down. What matters is how much I want it, how much it costs, and how much money I have. So if I really want it and the price is right but I just don't have the money yet, I may not get it just yet. If the price is wrong, I may put it off until it's right even if I have the money.
There's a window when games are easily available, too. So if I can only find games for a system for about 7 years then once those 7 years are up even if there are old games I would have liked, I probably won't bother searching them down (even if I do, it'll be second hand from ebay or something like that).
If the prices are steep I may still get games but not as many of them. If the system is priced too high I may not get the system (and games) until 2-3 years into that 7 year life span. Less games will be bought. It's not that I don't want it. I simply can't afford it or it's not worth THAT much to me.
Because of this, I'm not altogether convinced that the PS3 will have the widest selection of games. Maybe at first because developers were banking on Sony dominating the market. But what if the price dampens sales because of people like me? Will the selection of games dip? I don't know. It may be that most gamers are more like you than me but it may be the other way around.
I'm not a PS gamer so I'm not sure but wouldn't the card reader be nearly necessary if you wanted to play your older games on your new system (the whole backwards compatibility thing they brag about)?
I guess you could just start over from scratch but that'd be frustrating to some people at least.
I just wonder how common people like you are. I think there's a lot of video game early adopters that are not also movie system early adopters. For those people, getting a $300 PS2 that also played DVDs was a much safer bet than getting a $600 PS3 that also played Blu Ray DVDs. Why? For one, $300 wasn't much more than other game systems. For another, DVDs were a bigger jump from VHS than Blu Ray is from DVDs. For yet another, DVDs were fast becoming the norm with lots of actual DVDs available. Blu Ray doesn't have that. It still won't have it come November.
I agree. It's not going to be exactly like real sword fighting but I think it could still be fun. Remember that the nunchaku attachment also has some motion sensing capabilities so you could use a quick jerk to change to a more defensive stance or to jump or whatever. But you do bring up a good point that holding the nunchaku keeps you from really experiencing two-handed light saber fighting. I still think it could be quite fun.
I think it'd attract more PS fans than lose Nintendo fans. There may be a few MGS fans that will buy any and all MGS related stuff but there are probably no Nintendo fans that will up and buy all games related to characters in SSB. Honestly, I don't think it'll have much effect either way but, if any, it would be more PS going toward the Nintendo game (especially since the Wii is likely to be cheap).
Isn't the higher price there because of all the built-in taxes they have in Europe?
Heck, if you order from the U.S. online you probably won't have to pay any tax (although the shipping might cost a good amount).
Unfortunately, if they bought the PS3 they won't be able to afford another game console. I guess they might be able to find a working wii to try out at walmart or best buy although most controllers at places like that are pretty thrashed and nearly broken before long.
If it was a walmart the worker might have a 50/50 chance of even knowing where the xbox is. But seriously, any time a product has a name similar to another product people always just name it more specifically. Want baking soda? Don't ask for soda. Want a Nintendo Qii? Don't ask for a key. It's not that hard.
Nobody's going to ask for a wii-wii (except as a joke) or even a wii unless they feel confident the person will know what they are talking about. People will say Nintendo Wii and the guy who stocks it will know what they're talking about. Most people would probably ask for a Nintendo Revolution if they had stuck with that name.
Yeah, like all the people that bought mp3 players instead of the ipod...I mean what's an ipod?
The various new dvd players will all be together. The confused consumer will more than likely remember an unusual name than some standard "hd dvd". So which high definition dvd player should we get? Oh, this one has the patented blu ray technology. I remember hearing that was good. These other ones just say the standard hd dvd. Let's get the blu ray one! Heck blu ray may end up becoming synonymous with the next gen dvd players like people nowadays talk about ipods not even realizing there are other brands that sell related products.
I think you're getting overly defensive about the term 'toy' as if it were an expletive. It's something to play with and have fun with. I don't think the gp was making some troll comment about it being 'kiddie'. As you have said, even adults like these toys (and they were aimed at them).
Sure, all three systems are toys or game systems or whatever you want to call them. I believe the gp was mostly referring to philosophy and it seems you agree. Nintendo keeps how they will use the system in mind. As you said, "They designed the hardware to match the software." I think that's what the gp was talking about. Ultimately, they are looking at the end goal, to make the game player have fun. Sony and Microsoft are looking at things more from the hardware side....making it a tool for other developers.
This thread will include a debate over whether there are 360s available yet. Testimonials will be provided on how many stores they went to in their town, and the terms FUD and shill will be used.
In small towns, a democratically elected city council can often vote down allowing a new business to build there. They make a decision on whether they think it'll create new jobs, change the atmosphere of the town, attract other businesses, etc. Small towns often really get out and get a feel from the community what they'd like. If you go to the city council and raise your concerns you're more likely to be listened to in a small town.
Nintendo seems to put out a high ratio of high-quality fun games. If they are putting out a third of the games it wouldn't surprise me if they make as many great games as all the third party developers combined...maybe 4 great Nintendo-made games and 4 great third party games. If it comes out that way, I'd consider it a great signal-to-noise ratio compared to others systems. I don't think most people would spend money for more games than that at launch if they really are great games that don't get dull fast. Then if you add in all the old favorites that are downloadable and you've really got staying power.
I'm sure they look at Microsoft's launch and take note. They can learn a bit of what works and what doesn't from them. But in the grand scheme of things which will influence their launch decisions more? Sony's and Microsoft's decisions or the current status of manufacturing units? Being the odd man out or having enough games ready? They want to be "ready" but they also don't want to miss the holiday season if they can avoid it. Sure, they have got to be looking at Sony and Microsoft and those competitors have to be influencing their decisions in some way but ULTIMATELY what really matters is how they can make the most money. This is impacted by the holiday season and units already built much more than any decision Sony or Microsoft could make.
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Price matters a lot to me. Maybe if there's a game or game system that I REALLY want I will get it...but I may end up waiting until the price goes down. What matters is how much I want it, how much it costs, and how much money I have. So if I really want it and the price is right but I just don't have the money yet, I may not get it just yet. If the price is wrong, I may put it off until it's right even if I have the money. There's a window when games are easily available, too. So if I can only find games for a system for about 7 years then once those 7 years are up even if there are old games I would have liked, I probably won't bother searching them down (even if I do, it'll be second hand from ebay or something like that). If the prices are steep I may still get games but not as many of them. If the system is priced too high I may not get the system (and games) until 2-3 years into that 7 year life span. Less games will be bought. It's not that I don't want it. I simply can't afford it or it's not worth THAT much to me. Because of this, I'm not altogether convinced that the PS3 will have the widest selection of games. Maybe at first because developers were banking on Sony dominating the market. But what if the price dampens sales because of people like me? Will the selection of games dip? I don't know. It may be that most gamers are more like you than me but it may be the other way around.
So does anyone know how much the Wii and the 360 will cost there? If everything there just costs more then saying $800 is meaningless.
That's where you get to cash in on a class action lawsuit.
I'm not a PS gamer so I'm not sure but wouldn't the card reader be nearly necessary if you wanted to play your older games on your new system (the whole backwards compatibility thing they brag about)? I guess you could just start over from scratch but that'd be frustrating to some people at least.
Their conclusion? The best budget card is the most expensive one they looked at, the Radeon X1300 Pro.
I just wonder how common people like you are. I think there's a lot of video game early adopters that are not also movie system early adopters. For those people, getting a $300 PS2 that also played DVDs was a much safer bet than getting a $600 PS3 that also played Blu Ray DVDs. Why? For one, $300 wasn't much more than other game systems. For another, DVDs were a bigger jump from VHS than Blu Ray is from DVDs. For yet another, DVDs were fast becoming the norm with lots of actual DVDs available. Blu Ray doesn't have that. It still won't have it come November.
It'd be nice to save it for just the bosses.
I agree. It's not going to be exactly like real sword fighting but I think it could still be fun. Remember that the nunchaku attachment also has some motion sensing capabilities so you could use a quick jerk to change to a more defensive stance or to jump or whatever. But you do bring up a good point that holding the nunchaku keeps you from really experiencing two-handed light saber fighting. I still think it could be quite fun.
I think it'd attract more PS fans than lose Nintendo fans. There may be a few MGS fans that will buy any and all MGS related stuff but there are probably no Nintendo fans that will up and buy all games related to characters in SSB. Honestly, I don't think it'll have much effect either way but, if any, it would be more PS going toward the Nintendo game (especially since the Wii is likely to be cheap).
Isn't the higher price there because of all the built-in taxes they have in Europe? Heck, if you order from the U.S. online you probably won't have to pay any tax (although the shipping might cost a good amount).
Unfortunately, if they bought the PS3 they won't be able to afford another game console. I guess they might be able to find a working wii to try out at walmart or best buy although most controllers at places like that are pretty thrashed and nearly broken before long.
If it was a walmart the worker might have a 50/50 chance of even knowing where the xbox is. But seriously, any time a product has a name similar to another product people always just name it more specifically. Want baking soda? Don't ask for soda. Want a Nintendo Qii? Don't ask for a key. It's not that hard. Nobody's going to ask for a wii-wii (except as a joke) or even a wii unless they feel confident the person will know what they are talking about. People will say Nintendo Wii and the guy who stocks it will know what they're talking about. Most people would probably ask for a Nintendo Revolution if they had stuck with that name.
Because game stores sell so many keys they wouldn't know where to start?
It worked for Indiana Jones, too.
Yeah, like all the people that bought mp3 players instead of the ipod...I mean what's an ipod? The various new dvd players will all be together. The confused consumer will more than likely remember an unusual name than some standard "hd dvd". So which high definition dvd player should we get? Oh, this one has the patented blu ray technology. I remember hearing that was good. These other ones just say the standard hd dvd. Let's get the blu ray one! Heck blu ray may end up becoming synonymous with the next gen dvd players like people nowadays talk about ipods not even realizing there are other brands that sell related products.
Sure, all three systems are toys or game systems or whatever you want to call them. I believe the gp was mostly referring to philosophy and it seems you agree. Nintendo keeps how they will use the system in mind. As you said, "They designed the hardware to match the software." I think that's what the gp was talking about. Ultimately, they are looking at the end goal, to make the game player have fun. Sony and Microsoft are looking at things more from the hardware side....making it a tool for other developers.
It could make a cool watch, though.
This thread will include a debate over whether there are 360s available yet. Testimonials will be provided on how many stores they went to in their town, and the terms FUD and shill will be used.
In Japan, the gamecube is winning the current battle against the Xbox 360.
In small towns, a democratically elected city council can often vote down allowing a new business to build there. They make a decision on whether they think it'll create new jobs, change the atmosphere of the town, attract other businesses, etc. Small towns often really get out and get a feel from the community what they'd like. If you go to the city council and raise your concerns you're more likely to be listened to in a small town.
Nintendo seems to put out a high ratio of high-quality fun games. If they are putting out a third of the games it wouldn't surprise me if they make as many great games as all the third party developers combined...maybe 4 great Nintendo-made games and 4 great third party games. If it comes out that way, I'd consider it a great signal-to-noise ratio compared to others systems. I don't think most people would spend money for more games than that at launch if they really are great games that don't get dull fast. Then if you add in all the old favorites that are downloadable and you've really got staying power.
Wasn't Mario 3 on the NES?
I'm sure they look at Microsoft's launch and take note. They can learn a bit of what works and what doesn't from them. But in the grand scheme of things which will influence their launch decisions more? Sony's and Microsoft's decisions or the current status of manufacturing units? Being the odd man out or having enough games ready? They want to be "ready" but they also don't want to miss the holiday season if they can avoid it. Sure, they have got to be looking at Sony and Microsoft and those competitors have to be influencing their decisions in some way but ULTIMATELY what really matters is how they can make the most money. This is impacted by the holiday season and units already built much more than any decision Sony or Microsoft could make.
Maybe he meant, "if you have enough money to purchase either one."