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Super Smash Brothers Wii, Featuring Solid Snake
mcc writes "In a surprise news conference this evening, Nintendo unexpectedly revealed Super Smash Bros. Brawl for the Nintendo Wii, and released a promo video of the title. Smash Bros. Brawl will feature online play; a Nintendog item that blocks your view of the playfield by jumping up on the screen and demanding to be petted; bizarre Dragonball Z style superattacks; your choice of traditional Gamecube or motion-sensing Revmote control; and new characters in the form of Samus (without the suit), Meta Knight, Kid Icarus (!), and... Konami's Solid Snake, complete with a cardboard box he hides in. The only bad news is despite earlier reports it would be a launch title, Smash Bros. Brawl will not be out until 2007."
The XBox 360 had a mild welcome in Japan
Maybe I'm just jealous. I want to vote for Bub & Bob (Bubble Bobble) as a counter pair to fight those damned Ice Climbers!
My work here is dung.
http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/v ids_1.html
Nintendo finally remembered Pit!
Wonder if we'll get a new KI game on the Wii now...
...your choice of traditional Gamecube or motion-sensing Revmote control
t ml
That doesn't seem to be true from what I can see. The following is taken from the article at IGN.
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707504p1.h
Under the direction of series creator Masahiro Sakurai, Super Smash Bros. Brawl will feature classic, GameCube-style combat -- not Wii-style motion-controlled combat. That means players who prefer to play the game with the traditional control setup can look forward to using the GameCube control-style they're already accustomed to.
"We found that trying to implement too much motion-sensory functionality can get in the way of the game. We're looking at keeping the control simple, as it has been," said Sakurai. "The Wii hardware has sockets for the GameCube controller, too. So I'll just say now that you may not want to throw away your GCN controller yet."
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Do they make a Nintencat the requires catnip before you can pass?
Recent developments sure lead me to believe that Nintendo has become the next Apple. They have followed the same path over the past two decades, from a strong company with a very popular product who is rapidly downtrodden, only to wallow in their own despair for years. Thankfully for those who remember them in their heyday, they manage a holy redemption and become leaders in their field once again.
It looks like they both used the same strategy, too. Both Apple and Nintendo have taken the route of offering trendy, innovative products of a very high quality. While their competitors aim only for the most powerful system (which will soon by eclipsed by PCs in a year or less), Apple and Nintendo both produce hardware and software products that maximize the user's experience.
It's no secret that Hideo Kojima is a big fan of Shigeru Miyamoto. Didn't they originally partner up to create the concept of Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes for the gamecube?
I hope the Wii does well. This is not because I am a fan of the company (though they've done great work which has brought me much pleasure), but for a more pragmatic reason: I intend to buy one, and want lots of third-party support.
/., I think I will be able to scrape up the funds for a Wii and a game every couple months. The way things are heading, I will have a huge supply of desirable games to choose from.
This is excellent news for people like me, and presumably Nintendo itself, because:
a) SSB has become a marquee title for Nintendo, and it will be good to have this out in that first 6-months-to-a-year period
b) this gives everyone an early answer on the question of GC controllers. Namely, on games where it's appropriate, we CAN expect the option of using the GC controller.
Though my budget for games seems to be much smaller than a lot of the people on
Although the moon is smaller than the earth, it is farther away.
Gamespot's article states that "Sakurai said his team will try to take the game online, but he thinks it would be a hard to make four-player online work."
I think much of the appeal of this game would be lost if online weren't supported.
Also from the article:
"He then dropped a hint, saying gamers may not want to throw away their old GameCube controllers, which the Wii supports."
Hmmm...
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I know I'm not the only one to be excited about this. right?
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I wonder if that means a Metal Gear Solid title for the Wii?
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Isn't MGS exclusively Playstation? What does Sony have to say about this? I would think all characters from those games are exclusive as well...
Is Solid Snake the character from "Metal Gear" on NES? Maybe that's it, but it still seems odd...
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I was wondering who this fellow was: http://media.revolution.ign.com/media/748/748545/i mg_3595421.html
Is it Kid Ikarus? Are we looking forward to a 3d version of Kid Ikarus finally?
The thought of playing this game gives me a solid snake... heh
Self-referential Sigs are cool on /. these days...
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Is it just me or has this year's E3 become the Nintendo Entertainment Expo (NE2)? Seems like Nintendo is the only console company that will come out of this with more steam than they came in with. Whatever they lost by revealing their console's silly name has been nmore than made up for.
Anyone else notice that the creator of SSB basically says the Wii controller sucks for games like this? I am glad I am not the only one who is not sold on this controller as the be all, end all of game development. However, if it turns out that most games are better without the 'chucks, how would Nintendo fan boys justify spending another 200 bucks on a system that is no better than the gamecube they already have?
I'm still waiting for Sonic to be added to Smash Bros., so we can settle once and for all which mascot will win in a bar fight...
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a Nintendog item that blocks your view of the playfield by jumping up on the screen and demanding to be petted
So, a fierce dog bars the way, then?
Wario is the goatse man!
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If Nintendo has their way this gen, you WILL be.
Dude I haven't heard that one yet!! WIIMOTE! HAAAAAH!!
"Metal Gear Trousers", featuring a new character Trouser Snake, controlled with your Wii stick.
GCHQ Quantum Insert installed. If only our tongues were made of glass, how much more careful we would be when we speak
On the other hand, finally! An opportunity to sneak up behind Pikachu and snap his damn neck!
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Mmmm Duck Hunt.
There have been rumors about a new Kid Ikarus for Revolution/Wii since a year or so, I guess the Pit appearing in Super Smash Brothers makes that rumor even more likely to be true.
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At least he said the "too much" part. Hopefully people who use the Wii controller will have some sort of fun with it and N's just working on getting things just so.
Also: great, it's a surprise press conference -- apparently because it wasn't ready for prime time? All they have is the promo video, too.
A couple of flaws in the Nintendo makeup for E3, anyway.
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Think about how Warhammer fans are feeling this year: Games Workshop is going to E3 with *three* Warhammer titles by three different publishers: a Warhammer RTS from Namco, a Warhammer MMORPG from Mythic, and a HUGE 2-race expansion pack with renovated single-player for Dawn of War. I'm personally not too excited about the new Nintendo system, but it is a relief at least to see that the "Wii-mote" won't be a requirement for most games.
I may make you feel, but I can't make you think.
Tons of stills here.
In a nod to the availability of some of the old Genesis games being offered through the Virtual Console, I'd like to see one of the character from Altered Beast added as a playable character. The transformation dynamic (though used before) could make for some interesting gameplay.
It could also be fun to add the main character from Bionic Commando. His grappling hook could latch onto the various platforms and would make for an interesting twist on things.
The black mage from Final Fantasy III could be fun with his little pointy hat.
Or how about Glass Joe from Punch Out?
Haven't seen Earthworm Jim around lately...
Ultimately, I think I'd like to go out and kick some ass as a Pikmin.
Since Nintendo seems to be getting characters from non-Nintendo franchises, they should include Sonic! The dream match of the lifetime! Sonic VS Mario! That would kickass!
You can also probably include X or Zero from the Megaman series as well.
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Isn't this the same thing as Clippy in MS Office?
What are you doing now, you lazy drunken obscene unsayable son of an unnameable gipsy obscenity?
I want to play as a Metroid or a Space Pirate.
Wow! More Classic Nintendo Innovation!
(I'm really getting burnt out of rehashes, time to find another hobby!)
Is it just me or are Nintendo the only one of the big three to be generating any excitement with their launch messaging ?
(oops, nearly wrote excrement, then realised I wasn't writing about M$ or $ony)
But so far, they're the only company whose announcements can get me excited about a cardboard box.
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This is great. If they could push this out before August, we'd have a perfect opportunity to tie the game to a movie that is completely unrelated.
What you'd have to do:
1) Have Solid Snake as one of the fighters
2) Choose one of the levels where you battle on Fox's ship
3) Have everyone shout "SNAKE'S ON A PLANE"
4) Profit/giggle madly
Jokes aside, this looks awesome. Well worth the wait for online connectivity.
One thing I don't see a lot of comments about is the "Super Smashes" (my term, not theirs). If you watch the trailer, at one point Mario grabs a sphere with the SSB logo on it, and does a little "charge up" animation. After which, he unleashes either a HUGE flame on everyone, or unleashes a thousand flame punches (I couldn't really tell). Kirby is also shown charging, and then we see Mario in a pot. Link appears to have some sort of mutli-slash that creates Triforce images around the character.
Most likely, these would all be activated by the "Super Smash Sphere" (again, my term) which would be a very rare item. These look to have a lot of potential.
Finally, some predictions for other new characters:
-Waluigi
-Captain Olmar (he'd control a small herd of Pikmin or something)
-Paper Mario (he'd have the hammer, be able to turn side ways, would float down)
-hopefully no more Pokemon
I went to E3 yesterday, the line for getting into the Wii area was almost 3 hours so I passed. The only way to even see one was to queue up and go inside the 'secret area'. I understand wanting to create a buzz but it seems like this did more damage than good. To not even have one demo for passers by meant they missed a large opportunity. I went expecting to be wow'ed by the wii, and want to buy one; I left feeling like I couldn't care less about it. I'll spend the money 'saved' on some more games.
If by KI you mean Killer Instinct, then no. Killer Instinct is owned by Rare and is supposedly already in the works for the 360.
...grabbing the hammer
(do dododo do doo do doo do - du dududu du de doo de doo)
I think the characters we all want are Left and Right Pong Paddles.
What part of that do I understand?
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there have only been two Super Smash Brothers games in the past 7 years...I don't see your point when the majority of popular fight games have at least twice as many sequals. Don't be a hater.
I think the fact that this game will offer a choice of control methods is a bad sign. Before the system is even launched they are already planning a way around it, and there can only be one reason for that: the motion sensing remote doesn't work very well in the game. How many other games will have similarly token support for the motion sensing remote? At what point does everyone decide that maybe this motion sensing remote thing was just a gimmick?
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I need to go Wii Wii.
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I hope the interesting change refers to having that character and not the grappling hook part. (-cough-Link-cough-Samus-cough-)
That's true both of those characters have something similar, but in both of those cases it was used as that characters grab move, which all characters have in one form or another, and had a very short range.
For the Bionic Commando character I was thinking of it working more along the lines of how it was used in the game he's from. A full 20-30 feet of grappling hook would shoot out and latch onto any platforms it hits, and he could then pull himself across the screen, or up onto a high ledge with it. That is what would add an interesting dynamic to SSB.
Mario grabs the off topic symbol.......... Strange huh.
I assume part of your argument was that you are an adult...adults have found better ways to say "a lot" than "tons and tons and tons"
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Well, there's also the fact that the original two Metal Gear games appeared on NES.
True, Metal Gear was a port of the MSX game, but Snake's Revenge was non-canon.
It would be interesting if Raiden from Sons of Liberty were included as a skin for Snake's charecter
Wouldn't Midway sue over the use of "Raiden" as the name of a fighting game character?
Good thing "Nintendo" doesn't have an S in it!
It does have an E, for NintEURndo. (Of course, Slashcode has to be anti-social and **** up the Euro sign.) As for Son¥, I've seen it written with a yen sign.
But that'll only work for those with WiFi
Is it so difficult? A week ago I bought a NETGEAR 802.11b/g router for 40 USD at Best Buy. I'm pretty sure that people will be able to afford such a router given that
Why get a character who would play just like Samus?
Why get a Falco who would play just like Fox, or Roy like Marth, or Pichu like Pikachu, or Guckertdorf like a slow Captain Falcon? Why get a Dr. Mario who would play like the incarnation from before he finished med school, or a Link who hasn't finished elementary school? Heck, why get a Ryu who would play just like Ken? Padding the select screen with head swaps is an accepted practice in Super Smash Bros. and many other fighting franchises.
It would be great if nintendo got some decent relations with konami, then they could have the silent hill series.
So I guess your plan to get a life was unsuccessful, then?
Honestly, the Net is so clogged up with commercial crap, and re-hashed news wire stuff, and useless blogs, that there's really very little new, original content on the Net that's easy to find. The signal to noise ratio is waaaay down from where it was, say, back in '95. So, I'll poke around during the day at work, but I like my free time to be free to actually *do* things.
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DS - Nintendo DS
PSP - Sony PlayStation Portable
PS2 - Sony PlayStation 2
GBASP - Nintendo Game Boy Advance SP (Game Boy Advance)
GBM - Nintendo Game Boy Micro (Game Boy Advance)
Xbox360 - Microsoft Xbox 360
GC - Nintendo Game Cube
GBA - Nintendo Game Boy Advance
75% of Nintendo's profits came from handheld devices... Sony was second but in that period almost all of their profit came from the ps2 with the psp not even breaking even (not all of Sony mind you, just the gaming division SCEI).
:).
Nintendo's ability to win the modern console wars has yet to be seen. Although with this much press, excitement, and hype they just may win this round
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The $500 dollar machine will have superior graphics and be priced at $200... then what?
Hmmm... Pie...
I'm really not sure where everyone has got the idea that smash bros would not work well using the Wii Remote. I think its a good alternative. Several predefined control methods could be set up. Some moves including flicking the wiimote upwards to make the character jump, and perhaps the nunchuck to do the up and B move. There are many potential combinations. Users could perhaps have an intense control system where a lot of motion sensing is used, a standard setting, and a limited setting. For example, smash attacks could be initated by snapping the wiimote to the left/right. I think the motion sensing could have a lot of potential in making new combinations of moves in smashbros and add to the overall gameplay system. Nintendo just need to experiment and look into it well.