No you defend yourself against the army and the navy, and you selectively bomb munitions factories, with the realization there are going to be limited civilian causalities. But, when you start wholesale and intentional slaughter of citizens you put yourself down to the same detestable level as your enemy.
This was back in the day of dumb gravity bombs and norton bombsights. Firebombing a city, though extremely brutal, was the sometimes the only surefire way of destroying a industrial complex. Remember that in WWII, the sucessrate of bombing runs (ie >90% destruction of the target) was about 10-20%. Most of the time it took multiple raids to destroy the target.
They could have sent a message to the Japanese to send observers to point A and see what happens at point B, set off a bomb in an empty area and it would have ended the war.
1) Despite the Trinity test we were not 100% sure the bomb would even detonate. As a matter of fact, the Nagasaki bomb came very close to being a dud.
2) We only had two bombs. That was it. It would have taken months (or possibly a year) to start manufacturing more because of the very limited supply of uranium. Considering we had to use both before the Japanese surrendered I think it was the only way to go.
3) Trick - The Japanese would not have wanted to believe a test on a deserted island. They would have rationalized their disbelief by saying we had buried a few thousand tons of TNT before the test and that it was all a hoax to get them to surrender. The Japanese military was so fanatical that their grasp on reality was slippery at best.
I'm sure the Chineese would agree whole heartedly with you.
The fact that the other side is a dictatorship and that the population didn't have a say in governmental matters doesn't mean you surrender the right to defend yourself.
Oh, shit. That invading Japanese army is from a country that is a dictatorship. The people didnt have a say in it. Well, we can't very well have innocent civilian casualties on the other side, so lets just roll over and hope for the best. Life in the camps can't be THAT bad!
or...
That invading Japanese army is from a dictatorship. Well, since the civilians never really got a say in the matter, lets get the war over as soon as possible! Maybe we can set them up in a peaceful democracy afterewards.
The nuclear bomb ended the war. It stoppped the killing.
And if you study your history you would learn about the Rape of Nanking and other assorted Japanese atrocities.
The Japanese militaristic state was a danger to the world and had to be stopped, just as much as Nazi germany.
We'd probably use nuclear energy to get the oil out, as you cant exactly lug one on your car but it can be attached to the powergrid that feeds the refinery.
This is obviously an attempt by The Man to collect information about us so it can be passed onto the Bush White House and the rest of the American Nazi's to oppress us all!
wait... google did this first?
uhh... then
Those theiving capitalists are trying to steal the good and peaceful work of a decent and hardworking company and ruin a good, benevolent idea with their shoddy workmanship. Only someone of M$s low compentence could ever forget a semi colon!
Oh NOOO! T3h l33t h4xx0rz that perpetuate the good will of Tux would never do something like THAT.
[/sarcasm] I am so going to Karma hell for this...
Quick! Put the image of a pink golfball on a field of half eaten hohos in your mind to block t3h m1nd r34d3rz!
*hands over tinfoil hat*
Seriously, though. If a company goes to the FBI and says "We think so and so has broken a law." they are supposed to look into it if a crime could have plausably been comitted. Kinda like calling the cops and reporting 'suspicious' activity. Its nearly always harmless.
Cisco is using this to try to shut him up, but its not the FBIs fault.
10:1 acouple weeks from now the feebs will say 'move along, nothing to see here' and Cisco will then file a civil suit.
This is probably due more to programming laziness.
10:1 they had the scene in the alpha and a executive got cold feet about it and thought (rightly) that it would get an AO.
Then the Executive goes to Joe Dev and says "We want to cut out the sex mini games."
Joe Dev has a date in an hour with some girl from accounting. Would he call off the date and spend the next several days surgically removing the content?
Fuck no!
He spends maybe 15 min commmenting out the calls in the source and then goes out and has fun.
The Executive is pleased that the problem is solved so quickly and Joe looks good.
Because if you just comment those key lines out, no one could get to the minigames, right?
Wrong. One code savy dude with a hex editor could easily reenable this.
This is a perfect example of the wrong time to be lazy about removing existing code.
What the hacker/cracker does should decide the consequences, not what method was used.
If some 14 yearold creates a virus that erases billions of dollars from a server, then he should be tried as if he had walked into a bank and torched the vault.
If a terrorist uses a computer virus to crash planes, then he should be tried for murder.
Its not complicated folks, its WHAT you are doing, not HOW you are doing it.
I see something similar to this happening to M$. I keep seeing wild and crazy patents submitted by them that will take 20 years to develop... right in time to expire.
I dont' see why anyone would use a download service that's not bittorrent anymore. Users benefit from faster downloads and content providers have to pay for less bandwidth. It's a win win situation (unless you break it like Blizzard).
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All these people can't be wrong.
Yes they can. Remember all those people who went to see the Star Wars Prequels, each time saying it couldnt be worse than the last?
How about they lose the right to patent anything else ever again?
Since you lost the arguement you just spout off how you never cared anyway and proceed to make ill informed and insulting comparisions.
I think I may have just wasted my time on a closed minded fool.
No you defend yourself against the army and the navy, and you selectively bomb munitions factories, with the realization there are going to be limited civilian causalities. But, when you start wholesale and intentional slaughter of citizens you put yourself down to the same detestable level as your enemy.
This was back in the day of dumb gravity bombs and norton bombsights. Firebombing a city, though extremely brutal, was the sometimes the only surefire way of destroying a industrial complex. Remember that in WWII, the sucessrate of bombing runs (ie >90% destruction of the target) was about 10-20%. Most of the time it took multiple raids to destroy the target.
They could have sent a message to the Japanese to send observers to point A and see what happens at point B, set off a bomb in an empty area and it would have ended the war.
1) Despite the Trinity test we were not 100% sure the bomb would even detonate. As a matter of fact, the Nagasaki bomb came very close to being a dud.
2) We only had two bombs. That was it. It would have taken months (or possibly a year) to start manufacturing more because of the very limited supply of uranium. Considering we had to use both before the Japanese surrendered I think it was the only way to go.
3) Trick - The Japanese would not have wanted to believe a test on a deserted island. They would have rationalized their disbelief by saying we had buried a few thousand tons of TNT before the test and that it was all a hoax to get them to surrender. The Japanese military was so fanatical that their grasp on reality was slippery at best.
I'm sure the Chineese would agree whole heartedly with you.
...
The fact that the other side is a dictatorship and that the population didn't have a say in governmental matters doesn't mean you surrender the right to defend yourself.
Oh, shit. That invading Japanese army is from a country that is a dictatorship. The people didnt have a say in it. Well, we can't very well have innocent civilian casualties on the other side, so lets just roll over and hope for the best. Life in the camps can't be THAT bad!
or
That invading Japanese army is from a dictatorship. Well, since the civilians never really got a say in the matter, lets get the war over as soon as possible! Maybe we can set them up in a peaceful democracy afterewards.
The nuclear bomb ended the war. It stoppped the killing.
And if you study your history you would learn about the Rape of Nanking and other assorted Japanese atrocities. The Japanese militaristic state was a danger to the world and had to be stopped, just as much as Nazi germany.
We'd probably use nuclear energy to get the oil out, as you cant exactly lug one on your car but it can be attached to the powergrid that feeds the refinery.
Assuming you can provide them with enough info to make what the company was doing suspicious.
With a snazzy logo on it.
WINDOWS VIIISTAAAA!!!!
NT 5.1.1
This is obviously an attempt by The Man to collect information about us so it can be passed onto the Bush White House and the rest of the American Nazi's to oppress us all!
... google did this first?
... then
...
wait
uhh
Those theiving capitalists are trying to steal the good and peaceful work of a decent and hardworking company and ruin a good, benevolent idea with their shoddy workmanship. Only someone of M$s low compentence could ever forget a semi colon!
Oh NOOO! T3h l33t h4xx0rz that perpetuate the good will of Tux would never do something like THAT.
[/sarcasm] I am so going to Karma hell for this
Quick! Put the image of a pink golfball on a field of half eaten hohos in your mind to block t3h m1nd r34d3rz!
*hands over tinfoil hat*
Seriously, though. If a company goes to the FBI and says "We think so and so has broken a law." they are supposed to look into it if a crime could have plausably been comitted. Kinda like calling the cops and reporting 'suspicious' activity. Its nearly always harmless.
Cisco is using this to try to shut him up, but its not the FBIs fault.
10:1 acouple weeks from now the feebs will say 'move along, nothing to see here' and Cisco will then file a civil suit.
if those damn frogs cant see it ...
oh fringe!
my bad!
Hey, reliable and mature tech is great.
How many of us still have 486s still running while the new fangled models go up in smoke after only a few years?
Cheap, reliable, and perdictable.
If it gets the job done for the right price, why change it?
The props from the orig movies weren't the only ones ever made, silly.
The first ones were sort of makeshift and made from some old flash tubes (or something like that)
The ones from the last three were custom made from scratch for the purpose.
I actually think its good that these things won't spend the rest of eternity locked up in some dusty warehouse.
Something tangable for one of the greatest movies in the 20th century.
At least we know they arn't doing just it to save a quick buck.
That should be stable enough.
This is probably due more to programming laziness. 10:1 they had the scene in the alpha and a executive got cold feet about it and thought (rightly) that it would get an AO. Then the Executive goes to Joe Dev and says "We want to cut out the sex mini games." Joe Dev has a date in an hour with some girl from accounting. Would he call off the date and spend the next several days surgically removing the content? Fuck no! He spends maybe 15 min commmenting out the calls in the source and then goes out and has fun. The Executive is pleased that the problem is solved so quickly and Joe looks good. Because if you just comment those key lines out, no one could get to the minigames, right? Wrong. One code savy dude with a hex editor could easily reenable this. This is a perfect example of the wrong time to be lazy about removing existing code.
Wish I hadnt spent all my points ...
What the hacker/cracker does should decide the consequences, not what method was used.
If some 14 yearold creates a virus that erases billions of dollars from a server, then he should be tried as if he had walked into a bank and torched the vault.
If a terrorist uses a computer virus to crash planes, then he should be tried for murder.
Its not complicated folks, its WHAT you are doing, not HOW you are doing it.
I see something similar to this happening to M$. I keep seeing wild and crazy patents submitted by them that will take 20 years to develop ... right in time to expire.
Fool.
Longhorn will be released on schedual, along with Duke Nukem Forever.
Then I shall just deposit it in the ATM and forgo the teller!
Not that I would get an ass vibrator, mind you.
Linux is so great because it is diverse.
If I don't like Fedora, I can switch to Debian, Gentoo or any other of a myrad packages.
However, I DO think that it would be smart to try to get a unified package management system so that binaries can be somewhat universal.
I dont' see why anyone would use a download service that's not bittorrent anymore. Users benefit from faster downloads and content providers have to pay for less bandwidth. It's a win win situation (unless you break it like Blizzard).
Not everyone has the necessary ports open.
in.tel?
...
Holy shit
I have just passed into the realm of supernerddom.
Like blue-ghost shit, but without Yoda.