There's been evidence of earlier migrations for a lot of years the evidence was always dismissed as anomolous and obviously had another explaination. Something that is rarely mentioned is the fact that it was far easier to get here 16,000 to 20,000 years ago from either Europe or Asia. Sea levels were 250' lower and I believe they were 300' lower 30,000 years ago. This extends the coastline hundreds of miles reducing the distance they'd need to travel. There was even the potential of following the ice sheet. Fishing was excellent and there were even mamals to hunt. The ice sheet would have been at sea level in places allowing for landfall. There's been evidence for early migrations as far back as 35,000 years or more ago. There's also an unspoke problem with South America seeming to have been potentially colonized first. The very oldest evidence of humans in the americas has been found in South America. No one is sure why but there is a belief that pacific islanders managed to make it to South American. Part of the problem tracing the migration is it seems several of the migrations died out leaving no DNA traces. Unless bones are found it's going to be hard to prove to anyone's satisfaction. Why isn't more evidence found? A guess would be the earlier migrations lacked the tecnology to survive well in the americas that were still ruled by megafauna. Clovis points were fairly recent if there were migrations going back 35,000+ years. The earliest people may have never numbered more than a few hundred to a few thosuand making them suseptible to desease and droughts. It's not hard to kill off a population of a few thousand. Clovis technology allowed them to grow into the millions allowing humans to weather major die offs. There was even an extreme idea floated about aboriginals making it from Australia to South America by way of Antarctica. This borders on impossible because they never were seafarers and the strait between Antarctica and South America was barely passible by 16th century Europeon ships. Dugouts and skin ships would have zero chance of surviving a crossing.
you also sell them retirement property in Arkansas? Florida seems to have run out of swampland so it's luxury living in Arkansas or your own private paradise in the Arizona desert. Just 30 minutes from the nearest water and power. At least with this skeme they'd have power.
well you're both wrong. The dollar has lost about a 1/3 of it's value compared to more stable currencies like the British pound. It's lost 25% of it's value compared to even the Euro which was 1:1 at one point. The problem is the world economy is based on the US dollar so we don't notice the change as much as other countries. Things haven't gotten much more expensive here but they are cheaper in some other countries. Economics are complex and hard to put in simple percentages. People in the US mostly notice the difference when they travel. You get a room in England for 75pounds a night but you wind up paying $150 a night US. I lived in NZ for awhile and all the locals found electronics expensive but they were roughly the same price to me once I made the currency adjustment.
The more I read about Vista the happier I am with Win 2000. It has a handful of features that were somewhat improved but at a cost of it being slower than XP and a security system that depends on you manually authorizing things that you shouldn't have to. I have a couple of PCs and one Mac and the only time the mac bugs me is when I'm installing something or doing a monthly update. Try rebooting a windows machine and you are prompted to update something every time. Yes a lot of things can be turned off if you go digging but with my XP machine when I turned off some of the annoying stuff I got even more prompts. The biggest hesitation I have with Vista is the Microsoft fanatics aren't finding a lot of good to say about it. Leopard got a lot of flack from the PC community but personally I can't wait. I'll give it a month to make sure the upgrades are going smoothly but I can't wait to upgrade. That's a massive difference between the two systems. Most people in the PC community look at upgrading to Vista like they were looking at a snake and they aren't sure if it's poisonous or not. The Mac community can't wait for Leopard. Like I say the best sales promotion Mac Leopard has ever gotten was Vista. The difference between the two is fighting with the OS in Vista and not noticing the OS in Leopard. I use computers for the software not to get my rocks off configuring OSs. The more Microsoft "fixes" Windows the more interested in Mac I get. Funny how Mac is never trying to fix their security. I leave a Mac logged onto the net for days or weeks at a time without one problem. No need for firewalls and antivirus software. Macs aren't completely virus free but they tend to be more like urban legends. I've heard of them but I've never seen one.
Doesn't need ink but it does cost $1 a sheet for the paper. Only half joking. If they keep the cost down to 2X or 3X the cost of standard paper it'd be extremely interesting. The problem has been they virtually give away printers then soak you for the ink. I find it hard to believe the printers would be a compriable price and the paper will be even cost to the price of even expensive paper. No more clogged ink jets would be a huge improvement on it's own. I've blown through $30 in ink trying to clear the a clogged ink cartridge.
The american government is concerned with other recent developments. Chimps were observed trying to build centrifuges out of bamboo and coconuts in an effort to refine Uranium. The chimpazzes claim it is intended for peaceful purposed but most feel they are pushing for economic assistence. Plans for bannana jacketed hydrogen bomb scratched in the dirt are believed to be more a threat than a reality. Although most engineers do think the design would work they doubt the chimpanzees have sufficent uranium since they are dependant on the glowing hands of watches stolen from ecotourist as a sole source of nuclear material.
Leopard is looking better everyday. I know it's often troll bait to compare the two but before Vista went wide we were all told it was going to blow Leopard away and Leopard was just a knock off. Now that it's out it's slower, the new security heavily depends on you manually authorizing actions and there aren't many new features. Oh and it's a memory hog. Now we find that they left out support for software I'd say 99% of us use, as in everyone here is likely to use at least one software that isn't properly supported. Curious how much is competing software? Late last year I made a hard decision to stick with Windows but Vista has made me rethink that descision. I'm planning to pick up some remaining copies of XP to have on hand then dual booting Macs to get me by the dark ages here until the mess gets sorted out. Apples best friend right now may be Vista. It may not be the disaster ME was but it does look messy given the long development cycle. Microsoft seems to have made a lot of decisions based on benefiting them and taken the stance they'll use it because what choice do they have? Well the choice is Mac. I'm not normally a Mac fan but I'm becoming one.
"Can I come home now? When I agreed to go to Mars I was told it was a tropical paradise and I would only have to stay for three months. It's cold and dry and I haven't seen a single palm tree, not one! The software update was a big help but I'd rather have a ticket home." Signed Spirit Rover. "I miss you guys. By the way who won the last three American Idols? Reception sucks up here."
The process obviously won't stop copying material but my question is could the same or a similar technology be used to create a dedicated display screen? Let's say with quantum entangled particles as an example you directly drove a screen from a linked source. For every screen manufactured a dedicated chip was loaded into the system linked to your display device. No lines would be needs to transmit the data but like a traditional TV reciever there would be no signal to tap it simply drives the screen. You order your content on demand and there's nothing to record so no piracy but if it was a one time purchase situation you wouldn't have to worry about lost, damaged or degraded media. It would solve most of the complaints except for those wanting free material. It would eliminate a lot of the distribution issues and end the dependence on satelites. No more screwed up signals when there's a lot of solar activity. Granted we're talking decades away but there is a potential for secured storage and distribution of media.
Remember the old ice bullets? Just imagine tanks firing flaming snowballs! They might not do much damage but they're likely to scare the hell out of the enemy. Just dress our troops in red suits with horns and they'd think they were fighting the devil himself with a legion of demons.
Absolutely. A good ratio for lenses to cameras bodies would be 3X to 5X the cost of your collected bodies, and I'm talking basic lenses. I mention bodies because the parent apparently doesn't actually shoot pro. He mentions sports. I've never known a pro sports photographer that didn't have at least three cameras physically on him. The reason? Often times each has a different lense. Sports photographers tend to spend a lot on glass. Almost any photographer will have a back up camera on him. Most if they are working location will have three. A decent package will have a nice selection of hard lenses and a couple of telephotos. The most expensive lens? For a basic package it'll be whatever you are shooting portraits with, CU shots. Unless you are doing specialty work if you are shooting people or products you want that lens as sharp as possible. I've known guys would would put as much in one lens as the rest of their package put together. If you think all of that sounds expensive try film and video lens. The top of the line pro lenses will take your breath away.
Let me guess you are a founding member of the Sahara club? The environment isn't impressed with how much more you are willing to pay. There are secondary costs even beyond CO2 levels. Since you seem to be rich remember this the next time you set down to a nice Sword Fish dinner all that mercury you are dining on comes for industry, mostly coal fired power plants. I get sick of hearing from the Hummer/SUV driving crowd that it isn't their problem and let some one else deal with it. A 100 years ago electric bulbs were starting to get more and more common, 150 years ago no one had them, and no one had cars. Now you absolutely can't live without incandescent bulbs and the biggest tank you can find. A 100 years ago you'd be riding a horse and using an oil lamp ya yahoo. Trust me you'll live if you switch to high efficency bulbs. I've been using them for years and I love the soft even light. I actually use photographic compacts in my computer room because the light is color corrected. In household incandescents have a miserable color temperature and I do graphics. There's nothing insightful about proudly stating you're too selfish to be part of the solution. We need a sad and pathetic category for people like that.
Gotta say blender looks really powerful but everytime I try the interface I find myself running back to Lightwave and Maya. Everyone believes their interface is best but with Blender that just hasn't been my experience. It's so completely nonstandard that it's agonizing to learn. The fact that most people are still dropping thousands on things like Maya and Lightwave when Blender is free should be a heads up. Some people are willing to put the time and effort into the interface but the bulk of animators obviously aren't. Trust me I'd love to stop dropping thousands a year on upgrading Maya and use Blender but the basic layout of the UI hasn't changed much over the years so I forsee many years of upgrading Maya and Lightwave. If you really want wide adoption you have to rework the UI. Honestly check out Modo, Maya and even Lightwave. Modo is the best UI in the business and Maya is the most powerful animator with probably Lightwave being the easiest animator to learn. I really want to use and support Blender but it is too much of a hassle to learn. Everytime I hear blender mentioned in forums the responses are 10 to 1 negative about the UI. 90% of the would be users can't be wrong. Even if they are they aren't happy with it and they aren't using it. I'd stop adding features and change the UI. You'll get drastically more people to switch doing that than throwing in even more stuff people have to go through hell to learn.
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I use Maya and Lightwave as well as everything from Modo to VUE 5 on a daily basis. The Blender UI sucks. The learning curve is rediculouisly long and in the past the documentation was poor. Everyone seems to feel the obligation to reinvent the wheel with UIs but it's counter productive. Simple logic here. Blender has features you'd expect in software costing $1,000+ yet even free it has a relatively small user base. Got to be a reason and it's simple, the UI. Not everyone has the time to learn a completely new UI structure. Maya is the most complex software for animation availible yet I could do a lot the first day and find things like physics easier than any other software I ever used. I still can't do basic navigation with Blender and I have spent some time with it. Most of it is hidden which makes it hard to use. There's a major menu at the top that's completely hidden and you have to pull it down to access it. If they ever want Blender to be a serious competitor instead of a curiousity stop adding features and fix the UI. Personally my favorite UI is Modo. Not an animation software but I had a working knowledge of it in two days and it's the most powerful modeller out there. Maya has a good UI to emulate or even something like Lightwave which is fairly easy to use, the physics are a pain but at least I can model and render a shot in it.I could give some one a pretty good working knowledge of it in a day. Standard conventions are there for a reason. I'd rather get my thrill out of using a software than mastering a hostile interface. How many pros use Blender? How many animated films or TV shows have been done with it? Elephant Dreams was a short and it required a lot of customizing at the time to do it. People download it but how many really use it? Even most of the ones that can't aford software use pirates rather than Blender. The features are really impressive but who cares if it's a nightmare to learn and use? If you expect people to adapt to your software rather than the other way around most will use something else. Zbrush took that stance and now they have stiff competition from friendlier UIs like Mudbox and soon Modo. They must be sweating bullets as they should. Telling me your UI is superior doesn't impress me when I find it a pain to use. Programmers tend to design UIs that make sense to them and not to artists. Modo and Mudbox were designed for artists and they have very devoted followings because of it.
I guess the tone would indicate we are supposed to demonize Jobs for wanting control of his product rather than letting the Telecoms dictate what he could build. Point he was talking about a tiny market share so none of them had a gun to their heads. Cingular decided to play ball but they could have said no. Microsoft could have just as easily come in and said we're throwing ten billion at this the first year and expect in three years to have 10% to 25% of the market share. Play ball or we'll run you out of business. Asking for conditions to make a deal is called negoiations. Neither party was required to say yes and the final deal was mutually benificial. Where's the harm?
Dell somehow read this as #1 preinstalled Vista and #2 Preinstalled Microsoft Office. There still seems to be a language barrier between Corporate and English.
Based on everything I've heard I think the unspoken issue may be Cisco trying to use this issue to keep Apple out of VOIP. Their case doesn't sound strong enough to keep Apple from using the name but they probably can with VOIP phones.
Copyrights are unenforceable because most aren't obeying the law. If the speed limit is 55 and everyone goes 65 then the speed limit is unenforceable. People forget the copyright system largely worked up until home computers and the internet. It was the ease with which people could circumvent the law that changed things not the law itself.
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Seems like a smart business plan. It worked for the electric car......wait a minute....
There's been evidence of earlier migrations for a lot of years the evidence was always dismissed as anomolous and obviously had another explaination. Something that is rarely mentioned is the fact that it was far easier to get here 16,000 to 20,000 years ago from either Europe or Asia. Sea levels were 250' lower and I believe they were 300' lower 30,000 years ago. This extends the coastline hundreds of miles reducing the distance they'd need to travel. There was even the potential of following the ice sheet. Fishing was excellent and there were even mamals to hunt. The ice sheet would have been at sea level in places allowing for landfall. There's been evidence for early migrations as far back as 35,000 years or more ago. There's also an unspoke problem with South America seeming to have been potentially colonized first. The very oldest evidence of humans in the americas has been found in South America. No one is sure why but there is a belief that pacific islanders managed to make it to South American. Part of the problem tracing the migration is it seems several of the migrations died out leaving no DNA traces. Unless bones are found it's going to be hard to prove to anyone's satisfaction. Why isn't more evidence found? A guess would be the earlier migrations lacked the tecnology to survive well in the americas that were still ruled by megafauna. Clovis points were fairly recent if there were migrations going back 35,000+ years. The earliest people may have never numbered more than a few hundred to a few thosuand making them suseptible to desease and droughts. It's not hard to kill off a population of a few thousand. Clovis technology allowed them to grow into the millions allowing humans to weather major die offs. There was even an extreme idea floated about aboriginals making it from Australia to South America by way of Antarctica. This borders on impossible because they never were seafarers and the strait between Antarctica and South America was barely passible by 16th century Europeon ships. Dugouts and skin ships would have zero chance of surviving a crossing.
you also sell them retirement property in Arkansas? Florida seems to have run out of swampland so it's luxury living in Arkansas or your own private paradise in the Arizona desert. Just 30 minutes from the nearest water and power. At least with this skeme they'd have power.
well you're both wrong. The dollar has lost about a 1/3 of it's value compared to more stable currencies like the British pound. It's lost 25% of it's value compared to even the Euro which was 1:1 at one point. The problem is the world economy is based on the US dollar so we don't notice the change as much as other countries. Things haven't gotten much more expensive here but they are cheaper in some other countries. Economics are complex and hard to put in simple percentages. People in the US mostly notice the difference when they travel. You get a room in England for 75pounds a night but you wind up paying $150 a night US. I lived in NZ for awhile and all the locals found electronics expensive but they were roughly the same price to me once I made the currency adjustment.
The more I read about Vista the happier I am with Win 2000. It has a handful of features that were somewhat improved but at a cost of it being slower than XP and a security system that depends on you manually authorizing things that you shouldn't have to. I have a couple of PCs and one Mac and the only time the mac bugs me is when I'm installing something or doing a monthly update. Try rebooting a windows machine and you are prompted to update something every time. Yes a lot of things can be turned off if you go digging but with my XP machine when I turned off some of the annoying stuff I got even more prompts. The biggest hesitation I have with Vista is the Microsoft fanatics aren't finding a lot of good to say about it. Leopard got a lot of flack from the PC community but personally I can't wait. I'll give it a month to make sure the upgrades are going smoothly but I can't wait to upgrade. That's a massive difference between the two systems. Most people in the PC community look at upgrading to Vista like they were looking at a snake and they aren't sure if it's poisonous or not. The Mac community can't wait for Leopard. Like I say the best sales promotion Mac Leopard has ever gotten was Vista. The difference between the two is fighting with the OS in Vista and not noticing the OS in Leopard. I use computers for the software not to get my rocks off configuring OSs. The more Microsoft "fixes" Windows the more interested in Mac I get. Funny how Mac is never trying to fix their security. I leave a Mac logged onto the net for days or weeks at a time without one problem. No need for firewalls and antivirus software. Macs aren't completely virus free but they tend to be more like urban legends. I've heard of them but I've never seen one.
Alright the photo puts tool use to bed but I still say they'll never learn to speak English.
Doesn't need ink but it does cost $1 a sheet for the paper. Only half joking. If they keep the cost down to 2X or 3X the cost of standard paper it'd be extremely interesting. The problem has been they virtually give away printers then soak you for the ink. I find it hard to believe the printers would be a compriable price and the paper will be even cost to the price of even expensive paper. No more clogged ink jets would be a huge improvement on it's own. I've blown through $30 in ink trying to clear the a clogged ink cartridge.
The american government is concerned with other recent developments. Chimps were observed trying to build centrifuges out of bamboo and coconuts in an effort to refine Uranium. The chimpazzes claim it is intended for peaceful purposed but most feel they are pushing for economic assistence. Plans for bannana jacketed hydrogen bomb scratched in the dirt are believed to be more a threat than a reality. Although most engineers do think the design would work they doubt the chimpanzees have sufficent uranium since they are dependant on the glowing hands of watches stolen from ecotourist as a sole source of nuclear material.
Leopard is looking better everyday. I know it's often troll bait to compare the two but before Vista went wide we were all told it was going to blow Leopard away and Leopard was just a knock off. Now that it's out it's slower, the new security heavily depends on you manually authorizing actions and there aren't many new features. Oh and it's a memory hog. Now we find that they left out support for software I'd say 99% of us use, as in everyone here is likely to use at least one software that isn't properly supported. Curious how much is competing software? Late last year I made a hard decision to stick with Windows but Vista has made me rethink that descision. I'm planning to pick up some remaining copies of XP to have on hand then dual booting Macs to get me by the dark ages here until the mess gets sorted out. Apples best friend right now may be Vista. It may not be the disaster ME was but it does look messy given the long development cycle. Microsoft seems to have made a lot of decisions based on benefiting them and taken the stance they'll use it because what choice do they have? Well the choice is Mac. I'm not normally a Mac fan but I'm becoming one.
"Can I come home now? When I agreed to go to Mars I was told it was a tropical paradise and I would only have to stay for three months. It's cold and dry and I haven't seen a single palm tree, not one! The software update was a big help but I'd rather have a ticket home." Signed Spirit Rover. "I miss you guys. By the way who won the last three American Idols? Reception sucks up here."
Can't hardly blame him. After all the work cleaning the solar panels he got stiffed on the tip.
The process obviously won't stop copying material but my question is could the same or a similar technology be used to create a dedicated display screen? Let's say with quantum entangled particles as an example you directly drove a screen from a linked source. For every screen manufactured a dedicated chip was loaded into the system linked to your display device. No lines would be needs to transmit the data but like a traditional TV reciever there would be no signal to tap it simply drives the screen. You order your content on demand and there's nothing to record so no piracy but if it was a one time purchase situation you wouldn't have to worry about lost, damaged or degraded media. It would solve most of the complaints except for those wanting free material. It would eliminate a lot of the distribution issues and end the dependence on satelites. No more screwed up signals when there's a lot of solar activity. Granted we're talking decades away but there is a potential for secured storage and distribution of media.
Where no thief has gone before.
Until they can read a Starbucks sign there won't be proof of extrasolar geeks. I'd say reading a Red Bull can but that's probably asking too much.
Remember the old ice bullets? Just imagine tanks firing flaming snowballs! They might not do much damage but they're likely to scare the hell out of the enemy. Just dress our troops in red suits with horns and they'd think they were fighting the devil himself with a legion of demons.
Absolutely. A good ratio for lenses to cameras bodies would be 3X to 5X the cost of your collected bodies, and I'm talking basic lenses. I mention bodies because the parent apparently doesn't actually shoot pro. He mentions sports. I've never known a pro sports photographer that didn't have at least three cameras physically on him. The reason? Often times each has a different lense. Sports photographers tend to spend a lot on glass. Almost any photographer will have a back up camera on him. Most if they are working location will have three. A decent package will have a nice selection of hard lenses and a couple of telephotos. The most expensive lens? For a basic package it'll be whatever you are shooting portraits with, CU shots. Unless you are doing specialty work if you are shooting people or products you want that lens as sharp as possible. I've known guys would would put as much in one lens as the rest of their package put together. If you think all of that sounds expensive try film and video lens. The top of the line pro lenses will take your breath away.
Let me guess you are a founding member of the Sahara club? The environment isn't impressed with how much more you are willing to pay. There are secondary costs even beyond CO2 levels. Since you seem to be rich remember this the next time you set down to a nice Sword Fish dinner all that mercury you are dining on comes for industry, mostly coal fired power plants. I get sick of hearing from the Hummer/SUV driving crowd that it isn't their problem and let some one else deal with it. A 100 years ago electric bulbs were starting to get more and more common, 150 years ago no one had them, and no one had cars. Now you absolutely can't live without incandescent bulbs and the biggest tank you can find. A 100 years ago you'd be riding a horse and using an oil lamp ya yahoo. Trust me you'll live if you switch to high efficency bulbs. I've been using them for years and I love the soft even light. I actually use photographic compacts in my computer room because the light is color corrected. In household incandescents have a miserable color temperature and I do graphics. There's nothing insightful about proudly stating you're too selfish to be part of the solution. We need a sad and pathetic category for people like that.
Gotta say blender looks really powerful but everytime I try the interface I find myself running back to Lightwave and Maya. Everyone believes their interface is best but with Blender that just hasn't been my experience. It's so completely nonstandard that it's agonizing to learn. The fact that most people are still dropping thousands on things like Maya and Lightwave when Blender is free should be a heads up. Some people are willing to put the time and effort into the interface but the bulk of animators obviously aren't. Trust me I'd love to stop dropping thousands a year on upgrading Maya and use Blender but the basic layout of the UI hasn't changed much over the years so I forsee many years of upgrading Maya and Lightwave. If you really want wide adoption you have to rework the UI. Honestly check out Modo, Maya and even Lightwave. Modo is the best UI in the business and Maya is the most powerful animator with probably Lightwave being the easiest animator to learn. I really want to use and support Blender but it is too much of a hassle to learn. Everytime I hear blender mentioned in forums the responses are 10 to 1 negative about the UI. 90% of the would be users can't be wrong. Even if they are they aren't happy with it and they aren't using it. I'd stop adding features and change the UI. You'll get drastically more people to switch doing that than throwing in even more stuff people have to go through hell to learn.
I use Maya and Lightwave as well as everything from Modo to VUE 5 on a daily basis. The Blender UI sucks. The learning curve is rediculouisly long and in the past the documentation was poor. Everyone seems to feel the obligation to reinvent the wheel with UIs but it's counter productive. Simple logic here. Blender has features you'd expect in software costing $1,000+ yet even free it has a relatively small user base. Got to be a reason and it's simple, the UI. Not everyone has the time to learn a completely new UI structure. Maya is the most complex software for animation availible yet I could do a lot the first day and find things like physics easier than any other software I ever used. I still can't do basic navigation with Blender and I have spent some time with it. Most of it is hidden which makes it hard to use. There's a major menu at the top that's completely hidden and you have to pull it down to access it. If they ever want Blender to be a serious competitor instead of a curiousity stop adding features and fix the UI. Personally my favorite UI is Modo. Not an animation software but I had a working knowledge of it in two days and it's the most powerful modeller out there. Maya has a good UI to emulate or even something like Lightwave which is fairly easy to use, the physics are a pain but at least I can model and render a shot in it.I could give some one a pretty good working knowledge of it in a day. Standard conventions are there for a reason. I'd rather get my thrill out of using a software than mastering a hostile interface. How many pros use Blender? How many animated films or TV shows have been done with it? Elephant Dreams was a short and it required a lot of customizing at the time to do it. People download it but how many really use it? Even most of the ones that can't aford software use pirates rather than Blender. The features are really impressive but who cares if it's a nightmare to learn and use? If you expect people to adapt to your software rather than the other way around most will use something else. Zbrush took that stance and now they have stiff competition from friendlier UIs like Mudbox and soon Modo. They must be sweating bullets as they should. Telling me your UI is superior doesn't impress me when I find it a pain to use. Programmers tend to design UIs that make sense to them and not to artists. Modo and Mudbox were designed for artists and they have very devoted followings because of it.
I guess the tone would indicate we are supposed to demonize Jobs for wanting control of his product rather than letting the Telecoms dictate what he could build. Point he was talking about a tiny market share so none of them had a gun to their heads. Cingular decided to play ball but they could have said no. Microsoft could have just as easily come in and said we're throwing ten billion at this the first year and expect in three years to have 10% to 25% of the market share. Play ball or we'll run you out of business. Asking for conditions to make a deal is called negoiations. Neither party was required to say yes and the final deal was mutually benificial. Where's the harm?
Dell somehow read this as #1 preinstalled Vista and #2 Preinstalled Microsoft Office. There still seems to be a language barrier between Corporate and English.
"I grew that one for you baby."
Well at least you're quitting the job as the President's science adviser.
Based on everything I've heard I think the unspoken issue may be Cisco trying to use this issue to keep Apple out of VOIP. Their case doesn't sound strong enough to keep Apple from using the name but they probably can with VOIP phones.
Copyrights are unenforceable because most aren't obeying the law. If the speed limit is 55 and everyone goes 65 then the speed limit is unenforceable. People forget the copyright system largely worked up until home computers and the internet. It was the ease with which people could circumvent the law that changed things not the law itself.